1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hi there to Mumbay listeners. This is Fred Greenholsch, the 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: host of Undertow Realm's premiere horror podcast, and I'm excited 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: to let you know that the creators of Tumumbay have 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: a new show out with us called The Sisters. When 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: the curator of a museum of medical oddities receives a 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: mysterious gift, she uncovers a story of a curse that 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: connects her present with one family's haunted past. Terrifyingly enough, 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: this tale of grief and obsession was inspired by real events, 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: and if you are a skeptic about ghosts and the paranormal, 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: while listening to The Sisters will probably make you think again. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Today you'll hear the first full episode of The Sisters. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: To find the rest, look for The Sisters, season six 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: of Undertow rever Podcasts are served. 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: What you are about to hear is a true story. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: It happened in Hexham, England in the nineteen fifties and sixties. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Names have been changed out of respect to the victims 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: and to protect the innocent. The Sisters episode one Believe 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: it or. 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Not, it's the third nineteen sixty five interview number seven with. 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: Well why don't you introduce yourself? 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 5: My lovely? Tell me your name? 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 6: Where's Jackie? We do everything together, which I know you are, Jill. 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: I bet you have a lot of fun, don't you. No, 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: But today Jill is all about you? 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 6: Is it blake? Going to the dentist? 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 7: No much nicer than going to the dentist. What have 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 7: you got there, Jill? What are you playing with my locket? 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 7: Is there anything inside it? 29 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 6: Yes? H from an angel. 30 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 7: Well that's something that'll keep you safe't it. 31 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: Now? 32 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 8: Jill? 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: Why don't you tell me about My name is. 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 8: Mart did you? 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 9: That doesn't mean anything? 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 7: She's heard me talk? 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 10: Please let the child speak. 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 7: My name is mort all right, Maude, tell me about yourself. 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 6: My name is Jill any years old. We are eight 40 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 6: years old. We live in Hexham, England. We ride bikes. 41 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 11: Hell. 42 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 12: Hello, good afternoon. My name is Frankie Bradshaw. I'm the 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 12: chief curator of the world famous Motor Museum here in 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 12: downtown Philadelphia, and I'll be your tour guide through Hell. Kidding, 45 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 12: that's just a joke. Before we get started, you should 46 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 12: know some of the objects on display here can be 47 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 12: quite triggering. I hate that word, but it's true. This 48 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 12: isn't a typical museum. It's not filled with beautiful objects. 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 12: To the contrary, it's a showcase of imperfection, an unflinching 50 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 12: look into the mysteries of the human body, and that. 51 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 13: Yes, you have a question. 52 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 14: Is it true you have a piece of Einstein's brain? 53 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 8: Yes, we do. 54 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 12: We also have the fucking moor of pickled skin. This 55 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 12: is the last place I ever wanted to work. 56 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 11: Yes. 57 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 12: Actually, when I was in grad school at Penn, I 58 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 12: thought I'd be the curator of the Philadelphia Art Museum 59 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 12: by now, or at least a gallery with actual art. 60 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 10: Follow me. 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 12: The fact is I'm thirty four years old and working 62 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 12: here is one step above Ripley's believe it or not. 63 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 14: So where's the rest of Einstein's brain? 64 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 8: Do you keep it on a separate floor? 65 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 13: Like the different rings and Lord of the Rings? 66 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 15: It's too powerful to have them together? 67 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 12: So how do I deal with questions like these? I 68 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 12: sneak into the bathroom for a drink. I really shouldn't. 69 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 12: What I should do is call my sponsor. But before 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 12: I get the chance, Frankie, Yes, duncan, I'm in here. 71 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 15: We just got a delivery, a box. They won't let 72 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 15: any time for it. 73 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 13: Did you tell them you work here? 74 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 15: Yes, Frankie, of course. 75 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 16: Well what kind of box? 76 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 15: I don't know. I haven't seen it. 77 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 17: I want you, Frankie, what should I tell him? 78 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 15: Are you Frankie to diary? 79 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 18: Uh? 80 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, well sort of. 81 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 12: I'm divorced. It's no longer. 82 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 13: My last name. 83 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: Well, whatever your name is. 84 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: You kept me out here fifteen minutes freezing. 85 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 17: My assigh Yeah, sorry, don't be gorgeous A signy? 86 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 15: So where's the box back of the truck? You got 87 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 15: a back door or something. 88 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 6: I can help you load it in. 89 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 12: How big is it? 90 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 14: Oh? 91 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 5: It's big. 92 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 13: Let's take the plastic off. 93 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 15: Okay, let me cut it. 94 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 14: Shit. 95 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 13: I think it's some kind of animal. 96 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 15: Animal, Franky, it's a bipedal. Do you know what this is? 97 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 15: It's a fucking alien. Look at the thing. It's huge. 98 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 12: It is huge, twice as thick and several feet longer 99 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 12: than a normal human skeleton. And there's no space between 100 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 12: the bones. It's like the skeletal remains of a blob. 101 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 15: Jesus, where do you think he's from? Mars or Venus? 102 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 12: Probably New Jersey? Oh, come on, Duncan, don't you see 103 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 12: it's a prank, you think. Yeah, remember the two headed 104 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 12: pig man we got in the mail last year. 105 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 13: That was very convincing, I know, And remember how disappointed 106 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 13: you were hi estas, Yeah, I know. It's my faults. 107 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 12: Day is my childhood friend from Hershey, Pennsylvania. She's from 108 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 12: an orthodox Jewish family, but she's a devout atheist like me. 109 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 12: I'm proud of her. She's the best medical examiner in Philly. 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 11: Anyway, it's been a long day. 111 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 13: Listen, we have something for you. Tada, So what do 112 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 13: you think? It just arrived? 113 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 14: Duncan thinks it's an alien? 114 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 11: Tilt the camera, Frankie. 115 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 15: Frankie thinks it's a frank. 116 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 11: Oh, it's not a prank. Pull back, Frankie scroll from 117 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 11: head to toe. 118 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 13: Poor woman, it's a woman. 119 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 11: I think. So it's hard to tell over FaceTime. Maybe 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 11: I can come by tomorrow and take a closer look. 121 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 15: Sure, that'll be great. 122 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 11: Just so I'm clear, there was no information, no return address. 123 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 14: Nothing, no, no. 124 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 13: She came in this box, just totally anonymous. 125 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: Shall we stop. 126 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: Right? 127 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 19: Today is August the twenty third, nineteen sixty nine, and 128 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 19: I'm here interviewing Francis Pollard has brought hospital night and 129 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 19: Gal wins. 130 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 8: It's all right. 131 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 14: You can call it an asylum for the criminally insane, 132 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 14: because that's what it is. 133 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 19: I'm here to help you better understand your your situation. 134 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 14: No doctor, No, you're here to answer a question. 135 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: Well, hopefully together we will answer many. 136 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 8: No, just one. 137 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 14: Why would a mother come to the conclusion that the 138 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 14: world would be a better place if her children were dead? 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: That's the question. 140 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, all right, Mum and dad, if you stand 141 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 9: on either side of. 142 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 5: The girls, all right, like this yet? Yeah, just like 143 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 5: that it Maud, move a bit closer on the sofa. 144 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 20: I'm Mary. 145 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 5: It's okay. 146 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 14: Everyone confuses. 147 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 19: Sorry about that, Mary, about you and your sister have 148 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 19: a lot of fun confusing people. 149 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 6: Ah, No, I'm married. No, I'm married. 150 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 8: Enough. 151 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 4: Okay, a big smile everyone, three two one. 152 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 14: We had a happy life. We were a happy family until. 153 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 10: Relax, Francis, just relax, Have another sip of water, the better. 154 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 8: Yes. 155 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: Do you want to stop now? 156 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 14: No? No, I want to carry on all right. It 157 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 14: was the summer of nineteen fifty seven, our last summer together. 158 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 14: Our twins Mary and Maude were everything we ever wanted. 159 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 14: It was a good year for us. For the whole country. 160 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 14: In fact, the war was over, we had a new 161 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 14: queen on our throne, and we just bought our first 162 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 14: car on higher purchase. It seemed like it really was 163 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 14: a new era where everything was possible. My husband, Thomas 164 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 14: was an engineer. He worked at the local car factory. 165 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 14: Was a good, steady job. We enjoyed simple pleasures, you know, 166 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 14: family outings, picnics by the lake, church, social events, we 167 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 14: went to Saint Luke's. But most of all we enjoyed 168 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 14: going to the pictures around New York, especially Hollywood movies 169 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 14: from America. 170 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 6: I want to go to America in there. Why no, 171 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 6: you don't. You're only seen it because I said it. 172 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 11: No, not, yes, you are. 173 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 14: Girls. We had everything we needed, and yet Thomas. 174 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 5: What about Thomas Francis? 175 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 14: There was Somehow did I ever really know him? 176 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 5: What do you mean, Francis? 177 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 6: You're such a good girl? You know, I think Matelda 178 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 6: needs a brother. Good idea, Mary? Hey, Dad, can we 179 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 6: get a boy dog? What we can name him Cliff? 180 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, no more dogs. No, but listen, 181 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 9: I've got something even better for you. Come on, come on, girls, 182 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 9: follow into the garage. 183 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 5: Is this another invention? 184 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 11: Daddy. 185 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 9: No, no, it's not just another invention. 186 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 5: It's the invention. 187 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 9: This is my masterpiece. You ready, Tella, Well. 188 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 11: What is it? 189 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 9: This is our future, girls. It's a refrigerator motor, my 190 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 9: original design, so it will allow fridges to run longer 191 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 9: and more efficiently. 192 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 8: Do you have any other inventions? 193 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 15: This is my masterpiece. 194 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 14: So that's how it started with a fridge motor. He 195 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 14: took it around the trade show as we tried to 196 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 14: find investors. No one was interested. As far as I 197 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 14: was concerned, it was a hobby, something he tinkered within 198 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 14: the garage. I didn't realize then that. 199 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: What didn't you realize, fancis. 200 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 14: That it would lead to the end of everything. Fancy 201 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 14: a cup of tea? 202 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 5: Love? 203 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 6: Oh? 204 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 11: Yes. 205 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 14: One evening we were watching television. The girls were upstairs asleep, 206 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 14: and suddenly Matilda, our dog, began running around in circus bark. 207 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 4: Mantilda calmed down, Helmos got into her. 208 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 9: Eight until they come here. 209 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 14: You expecting anyone? 210 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 9: It's probably someone collected for something, all right or right? 211 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 10: I'm coming. 212 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, hello, there are you Thomas Pola? If not, 213 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: I've got their own half. 214 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 11: Hi. 215 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 13: I'm Frankie. Hi. Hi, I'm an alcoholic. 216 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. 217 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 13: I'd been sober, well semi sober. 218 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 12: For you know, about three years, but the last six 219 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 12: months have been, uh been pretty rough on me. 220 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 13: You know, I got divorced. Well, I mean it wasn't consensual, 221 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 13: you know. 222 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 12: He he left me, which was probably a good decision 223 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 12: on his part because I'm a complete mess. 224 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 13: But you know, I'm I'm. 225 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 12: Also a fighter. 226 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 20: So here I am bagels. 227 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 16: I've got bagel, Good morning yesterday. 228 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 14: Here you go, duncan oh? 229 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 15: I stay here? The best? 230 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 16: Could you remember this extra cream cheese? Yes, we're all 231 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 16: going to have high cholesterol. Now where is she in 232 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 16: the back? Come on, so, Frankie, how was your date 233 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 16: last night? 234 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 8: Oh? 235 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 16: Shit, you forgot Huh? 236 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 8: Poor guy. 237 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 13: He'll be fine. He's a straight man on tender. He 238 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 13: probably had another date lined up right after. Besides, I'm 239 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 13: preoccupied with who Banil? 240 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 11: Frankie, you got to stop thinking about him. It's over. 241 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 14: No, not Banil. 242 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 13: I was thinking about Matilda, who. 243 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 15: She named the skeleton Matilda? 244 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 16: You name the skeleton Matilda? 245 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 11: It's cute? 246 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 16: Any reason? 247 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 11: Why? 248 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 14: No? 249 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 13: Not really, It's just sort of came to me. 250 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 12: Okay, there she is, that's her in the box. 251 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 15: And I still think it's an alien. 252 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 20: Mm hmm, this is wow. 253 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 16: The bones are so thick. See here, the first seven 254 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 16: ribs are completely fused. They're thick as baseball bats. 255 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 21: Right, I've never seen anything like this? 256 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 15: Who is she? 257 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 14: Not she? They? 258 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 11: Maybe? 259 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 8: Wait? 260 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 14: Two people? 261 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 11: Oh? 262 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 16: Look at the neck here in the conjoin twins connected 263 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 16: like this, just stacked on top of each other, their 264 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 16: organs would be crushed. 265 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 12: I mean, she's not a conjoined twin, She's not a giant. 266 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 8: Who is she? 267 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 16: I don't There is one other possibility? 268 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 11: What I have to call? 269 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 14: Doctor Lee? Who my boss? 270 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 16: Can you stop by? 271 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: Is there a better light back here? 272 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 15: Maybe turn on the overheads they're already on. 273 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 11: Oh maybe it's just my eyes. 274 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 5: No, that can't be possible. 275 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, to say it? 276 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 16: Say what it's FOP right? 277 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: FOP yes? 278 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 16: Or to use the technical name fibro dysplasia osipicuns progressive. 279 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 14: My god, there's only been a handful of cases. 280 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 13: Really in your whole career. 281 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 4: Ever, and you have no idea where it came from. 282 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 12: No, she was sent here anonymously. 283 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: Well I need to know more. Can I take her 284 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 5: back to my office? 285 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 11: No? 286 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 12: Sorry, it might be helpful I know, but it was 287 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 12: sent here Esda to me. 288 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: Is this about credit? 289 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 11: Yes? 290 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 12: Actually, I'm the curator of this museum. 291 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: Who else has seen it? 292 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 16: Just us break it down for me, Doc, What is FOP? 293 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 15: I mean? 294 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 12: If what you're saying is true, if it's so extremely rare, 295 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 12: then finding the owner of this skeleton shouldn't be too hard, right, Okay, 296 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 12: let's see For the next week, I researched every known 297 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 12: case of FOP I could find Harvard Medical Journal, July. 298 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 12: It turns out FOP is an extremely rare genetic disorder 299 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 12: that causes the body's soft tissue to transform permanently into bone. 300 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 12: In other words, a second skeleton grows on top of 301 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 12: the first. Early doctors posited that it was the result 302 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 12: of two souls trapped in one body. Hi, I'm calling 303 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 12: about an old case of a child with FOP back 304 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 12: in the early seventies in a village called Mattie Carrey. Okay, 305 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 12: this might sound kind of strange, but basically, in nineteen 306 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 12: seventy two, in the small farm town of Mahdi, Care, India, 307 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 12: a boy named ragu Basi Maadra was born with FOP. 308 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 12: Some of the locals worshiped him as the reincarnation of 309 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 12: the god Vishnu. 310 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 13: You knew the location of that skeleton at this time. 311 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 11: Sorry unusual cases. 312 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 12: My apartment slowly transformed into a science lab. I pinned 313 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 12: up pictures of bones on the wall, surrounded by anatomy 314 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 12: textbooks and medical journals. If someone walked in on me, 315 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 12: they'd think I was a doctor, or a serial killer, 316 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 12: or just a lonely woman desperate to connect some dots 317 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 12: and that our next guest is. 318 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 8: Great. 319 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 12: Meanwhile, my ex husband, the Neil, a professor at Penn, 320 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 12: was on TV promoting his new book about ancient religion. 321 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 18: With you, and we'll just jump right in with the 322 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 18: first question. 323 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 11: Does God exists? 324 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: It would depend largely on what you mean by God. 325 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 15: You know what our next move is. 326 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 17: Right's speciall exhibit display her display the skeleton for the public, 327 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 17: you think, I know, it'll get people talking, and who knows, 328 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 17: maybe a real academic. 329 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 15: Will show up. 330 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 13: I'm a real academic. 331 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 17: Well, you're also a curator, and it's your job, your 332 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 17: responsibility to bring asses through the. 333 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 13: Door, isn't it asses in the seats? 334 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 15: You know what I mean? 335 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 17: Besides, I'd already said yes, you spoke to the board well, 336 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 17: I floated the idea, Duncan. 337 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 15: It'll be fun. 338 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 17: We'll have a party, red carpet, paparazzi, like a respectable museum. 339 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 15: Hi, I'm Duncan. I'm the assistant curator here at the museum. 340 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 16: Wow, this is quite the turnout. 341 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 14: Oh no, cute boys. 342 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 12: Well, Duncan is around here somewhere passing out wine and cheese. 343 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 16: Pass although I could use a drink. 344 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 11: Shit, franky. 345 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 12: Sorry, it's okay, I'm a I'm back in the program. 346 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 12: Really yeah, well, I'm proud of you. 347 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 16: Come on, let's go. 348 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 13: Check out the star attraction. 349 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 12: Okay, s D is right, it is quite the turnout. 350 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 12: More than two hundred visitors have flooded the mutter to 351 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 12: see Matilda. 352 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 16: There she is. 353 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 12: The skeleton is presented, simply positioned upright behind a thin 354 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 12: wall of glass. 355 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 16: She's kind of beautiful, don't you think like it a 356 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 16: Tim Burton way. 357 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 21: It's true, she is beautiful. 358 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. Hello, are you Thomas Pollard? If not, I've got 359 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: the wrong hat, yes. 360 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 5: I mean no, No, you do have the right house. 361 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 5: I am Thomas Pollard, Mark Whitney. 362 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: I'm a friend of father Tim from Saint Louis. 363 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 9: Well, if it's church business. Perhaps it's my wife you 364 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 9: want to speak to. 365 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: No, no, it's you, Thomas. May I come in. Well 366 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: you see, father Tim told me all about your invention. 367 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 4: Oh right, well right, I may be able to help you. 368 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 9: Well, yes, yes, of course, come. 369 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: On Ina, mm hmm. 370 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 9: Hm, oh, Francis, this is mister mister Woodney. 371 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: Oh well, but I hope I'm not interrupting, I think missus. 372 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 14: Part No, no, no, no, no, it's I was just 373 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 14: going to make a coop of tea. 374 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 9: Can I make you? 375 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: If it's not too much trouble? Yes, that well, that 376 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: that would be lovely. 377 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry mister. 378 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 4: That's quite all right. 379 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 5: He we dog come here, stopped dad. 380 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 9: I don't know what's gotten into her. 381 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 6: She doesn't like you. 382 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 14: What what you doing down here? You should be in bed? 383 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 5: Maude? 384 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: What a lovely name? Hello, little miss I'm Mark Marred. 385 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 14: Off you go upstairs? 386 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 5: Now? 387 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: Can I take Matilda? 388 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 15: Yes? 389 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: Off you go go on, good night, good night, maud. 390 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 14: Well, I'll make a cup of tea. I didn't like 391 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 14: mister Whitney from the start. He was too rehearsed, and 392 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 14: the doult didn't like him either. I didn't trust him. 393 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 9: Mister Whitney, how can I help you? 394 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: That's the other way around to us. From what father 395 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: Tim tells me, you're a bit of an engineering genius. 396 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 9: Oh well, go as far to say that. 397 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: You know, I double don't be modest. I want to 398 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: see your refrigerator engine. 399 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 11: Why's that? 400 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 4: Because I'm a businessman. 401 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 9: You see, it takes barely any time to warm up 402 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 9: or cool down. 403 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: It's certainly more compact than I've seen before. Some beam 404 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: an electrologue aren't marketing anything this small? 405 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 9: Well, hey, you've done your research. 406 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: Well, As I said, I am a businessman. Have you 407 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 4: Have you protected it? Have you applied for a patent 408 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: so no one can copy it? 409 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no yet, No, there are still few 410 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 9: little niggles that need to be sorted out. 411 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 5: First. 412 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: I should apply for protection. You know, I can't stress 413 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: how important that it. 414 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 5: Right. 415 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: Well, look, i'll tell you what. I'm going off to 416 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: London next week. If you give me the schematics, I 417 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 4: can pop into the patent offers and I can just 418 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 4: you know, get things started for you. 419 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 9: Oh no, no, you don't have to do no, no, no. 420 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 4: You know, no expense on your end. I mean, we 421 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 4: can sort that out. Later. But you really must do 422 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: this to protect yourself, you know, and your family. 423 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 18: Morning, Philadelphia Today is Friday, October eighth, and in today's 424 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 18: Talk of the Town segment, a strange story from a 425 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 18: local oddity called the Mutter, a museum dedicated to. 426 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 14: Medical abnormalities. 427 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 15: Their latest arrival. 428 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm watching it. 429 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 16: It's like a human Good morning, Philly. 430 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 13: Remember they're doing the segment. 431 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 22: On prepare yourself morning. We got another box delivery box. 432 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 22: I think it's got something to do with Matilda. Really, 433 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 22: just get out of bed and come down to the museum. 434 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 22: I'm dying to open it. 435 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 13: Okay, okay, well, well don't open it, just wait for me. 436 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: What have you got there? Jill? 437 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 7: What are you playing with my locket? Is there everything 438 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 7: inside it? 439 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 8: Uh? Hum Remaine, if you're safe? 440 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 7: Wasn't it. 441 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: Now? 442 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 8: Jill? 443 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 7: Why don't you tell me about? 444 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 6: My name is mart? 445 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 7: Did you? 446 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 5: That doesn't mean everything? 447 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 8: She's heard me talk? 448 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 14: Please let the child speak. 449 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 6: My name is mart. 450 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: All right, Maude, tell me about yourself. 451 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 6: My name is Jill and years old. We are eight 452 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 6: years old. We live in Hacksome, England. 453 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 11: We ride bikes. 454 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: The Sisters is a Goldhawk production presented by Realm in 455 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 2: association with Lights Out, created by Brett Neatchen and written 456 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: by Brett Neatchen, John Scott Dryden and Mack Rogers. Frankie 457 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: is played by May Whitman, Francis, Helen Baxendale, Mark, David Morrissey, Duncan, 458 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: Miles Heiser, Thomas Lee, ingleby Stay Karen Chay and the 459 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: psychiatrist David Holt, with sound designed by Adam Woodhams and 460 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: original music by Seymour Milton and Sasha Putnam. 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