1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hi there to Mumbay listeners. This is Fred Greenholsch, the 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: host of Undertow Realm's premiere horror podcast, and I'm excited 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: to let you know that the creators of Tumumbay have 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: a new show out with us called The Sisters. When 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: the curator of a museum of medical oddities receives a 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: mysterious gift, she uncovers a story of a curse that 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: connects her present with one family's haunted past. Terrifyingly enough, 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: this tale of grief and obsession was inspired by real events, 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: and if you are a skeptic about ghosts and the paranormal, 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: while listening to The Sisters will probably make you think again. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Today you'll hear the first full episode of The Sisters. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: To find the rest, look for The Sisters, season six 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: of Undertow rever Podcasts are served. 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: What you are about to hear is a true story. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: It happened in Hexham, England in the nineteen fifties and sixties. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Names have been changed out of respect to the victims 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: and to protect the innocent. The Sisters episode one Believe 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: it or. 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Not, it's the third nineteen sixty five interview number seven with. 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 4: Well why don't you introduce yourself? My lovely tell me 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 4: your name? 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 5: Where's Jackie? We do everything together, which I. 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: Know you are, Jill. 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: I bet you have a lot of fun, don't you. No, 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: But today Jill is all about you. 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 5: Is it black going to the dentist? 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 6: No, that's much nicer than going to the dentist. 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: What have you got there, Jill? What are you playing 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: with my locket? Is there anything inside it? 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: Yes? H from an angel. 31 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: Well that's something that'll keep you safe't it now? Jill? 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: Why don't you tell me about My name. 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 7: Is mart. 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: Did you? 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 8: That doesn't mean anything? 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: She's heard me talk? Please let the child speak. 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: My name is mort all right, Maude, tell me about yourself. 38 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 9: My name is Jill any years old. We are eight 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 9: years old. We live in Hexham, England. 40 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 10: We ride bikes. 41 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 11: Hell. 42 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 12: Hello, good afternoon. My name is Sprinkie Bradshaw. I'm the 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 12: chief curator of the world famous Mutter Museum here in 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 12: downtown Philadelphia, and I'll be your tour guide through hell. Kidding, 45 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 12: that's just a joke. Before we get started, you should 46 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 12: know some of the objects on display here can be 47 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 12: quite triggering. I hate that word, but it's true. This 48 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 12: isn't a typical museum. It's not filled with beautiful objects. 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 12: To the contrary, it's a showcase of imperfection, an unflinching 50 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 12: look into the mysteries of the human body, and that. 51 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 13: Yes, you have a question. 52 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 7: Is it true you have a piece of Einstein's brain? 53 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: Yes, we do. 54 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 12: We also have the fucking moor of pickled skin. This 55 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 12: is the last place I ever wanted to work. 56 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 14: Yes. 57 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 12: Actually, when I was in grad school at Penn, I 58 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 12: thought I'd be the curator of the Philadelphia Art Museum 59 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 12: by now, or at least a gallery with actual art. 60 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 6: Follow me. 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 12: The fact is I'm thirty four years old and working 62 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 12: here is one step above Ripley's believe it or not. 63 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 7: So where's the rest of Einstein's brain? 64 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: Do you keep it on a separate floor? 65 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 14: Like the different rings? And Lord of the Rings? It's 66 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 14: too powerful to have them together? 67 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 12: So how do I deal with questions like these? I 68 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 12: sneak into the bathroom for a drink. I really shouldn't. 69 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 12: What I should do is call my sponsor. But before 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 12: I get the chance, Frankie, Yes, duncan, I'm in here. 71 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 14: We just got a delivery, a box. They won't let 72 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 14: me time for it. 73 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 11: Did you tell them you work here? 74 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 14: Yes, Frankie, of course. 75 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 15: Well what kind of box? 76 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 77 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 14: I haven't seen it. 78 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 16: I want you, Frankie, what should I tell him? 79 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: Do you? 80 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 17: Frankie to diary? 81 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: Uh? 82 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, well sort of. I'm divorced. It's no longer. 83 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 14: My last name. Well, whatever your name is. 84 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: You kept me out here fifteen minutes freezing my assigh? 85 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 14: Yeah, sorry, don't be gorgeous A signy? So where's the 86 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 14: box back of the truck? You got a back door 87 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 14: or something. 88 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 18: I can help you load it in. 89 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 12: How big is it? 90 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: Oh? 91 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 8: It's big. 92 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: Let's take the plastic off. 93 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 14: Okay, let me cut it. 94 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 7: Shit. 95 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 12: I think it's some kind of animal. 96 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 14: Animal, Franky, it's a bipedal. Do you know what this is? 97 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 14: It's a fucking alien. Look at the thing. It's huge. 98 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 12: It is huge, twice as thick and several feet longer 99 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 12: than a normal human skeleton. And there's no space between 100 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 12: the bones. It's like the skeletal remains of a blob. 101 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 14: Jesus, where do you think he's from? Mars or Venus? 102 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 12: Probably New Jersey? Oh, come on, Duncan, don't you see 103 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 12: it's a prank, you think. Yeah, remember the two headed 104 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 12: pig man we got in the mail. 105 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 14: Last year, Hey, that was very convincing. 106 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 11: I know. 107 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 12: And remember how disappointed you were. 108 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 11: Hi Estas, Yeah, I know. 109 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 12: It's my faults. Day is my childhood friend from Hershey, Pennsylvania. 110 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 12: She's from an orthodox Jewish family, but she's a devout 111 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 12: atheist like me. I'm proud of her. She's the best 112 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 12: medical examiner in Philly. 113 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 11: Anyway, it's been a long day. 114 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 12: Listen, we have something for you. Tada, So what do 115 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 12: you think? It just arrived? 116 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 7: Duncan thinks it's an alien? 117 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 11: Tilt the camera, Frankie. 118 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 14: Frankie thinks it's a frank. 119 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 11: Oh, it's not a prank. Pull back, Frankie, scroll from 120 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 11: head to toe. 121 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: Poor woman, it's a woman. 122 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 11: I think. So it's hard to tell over FaceTime. Maybe 123 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 11: I can come by tomorrow and take a closer look. 124 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 14: Sure, that'll be great. 125 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 11: Just so I'm clear, there was no information, no return address. 126 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 12: Nothing, no no, she came in this box, just totally anonymous. 127 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 8: Shall we stop right? 128 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 18: Today is August the twenty third, nineteen sixty nine, and 129 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 18: I'm here interviewing Francis Pollard. Has brought hospital night and 130 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 18: giral wins. 131 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: It's all right. 132 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 7: You can call it an asylum for the criminally insane, 133 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 7: because that's what it is. 134 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 18: I'm here to help you better understand your your situation. 135 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 7: No doctor, No, you're here to answer a question. 136 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 8: Well, hopefully together we will answer many. 137 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: No, just one. 138 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 7: Why would a mother come to the conclusion that the 139 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 7: world would be a better place if her children were dead? 140 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 7: That's the question. 141 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 19: Okay, yeah, all right, Mum and dad, if you stand 142 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 19: on either side of. 143 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 8: The girls, all right, like this yet? Yeah, just like 144 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 8: that it Maud, move a bit closer on the sofa. 145 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 13: I'm Mary. 146 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 8: It's okay. 147 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 7: Everyone confuses. 148 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 19: Sorry about that, Mary, about you and your sister have 149 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 19: a lot of fun confusing people. 150 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 5: Ah, No, I'm married. No, I'm married. 151 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 20: Enough. 152 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 17: Okay, a big smile everyone, three two one. 153 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 7: We had a happy life. We were a happy family until. 154 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 18: Relax, Francis, just relax, have another sip of water, the better. 155 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: Yes. 156 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 8: Do you want to stop now? No? 157 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 7: No, I want to carry on all right. It was 158 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 7: the summer of nineteen fifty seven, our last summer together. 159 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 7: Our twins Mary and Maude were everything we ever wanted. 160 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 7: It was a good year for us, for the whole country. 161 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 7: In fact, the war was over, we had a new 162 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 7: queen on our throne, and we just bought our first 163 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 7: car on higher purchase. It seemed like it really was 164 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 7: a new era where everything was possible. My husband, Thomas, 165 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 7: was an engineer. He worked at the local car factory. 166 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 7: Was a good, steady job. We enjoyed simple pleasures, you know, 167 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 7: family outings, picnics by the lake, church, social events, we 168 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 7: went to Saint Luke's. 169 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 18: But most of all. 170 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 7: We enjoyed going to the pictures around New York, especially 171 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 7: Hollywood movies from America. 172 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 5: I want to go to America in there. Why no, 173 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: you don't. You're only seen it because I said it. 174 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 11: No, not yes, you are. 175 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 7: Girls. We had everything we needed, and yet Thomas. 176 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 8: What about Thomas Francis? 177 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 7: There was somehow did I ever really know him? 178 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 8: What do you mean, Francis? 179 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 20: You're such a good girl, you know I think Matelda 180 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 20: needs a brother. Good idea, Mary, Hey, Dad, can we 181 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 20: get a boy dog? What we can name him Cliff? 182 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 19: Oh no, no, no, no more dogs. 183 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 18: No, but listen, I've got something even better for you. 184 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 17: Come on, come on, girls. 185 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 19: Following into the garage. 186 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 8: Is this another invention, Daddy? No, No, it's not just 187 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 8: another invention. It's the invention. 188 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: This is my masterpiece. 189 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 19: You ready, Tella? 190 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 4: Well what is it? 191 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 19: This is our future, girls. It's a refrigerator motor, my 192 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 19: original design, so it will allow fridges to run longer 193 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 19: and more efficiently. 194 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 7: Do you have any other inventions? 195 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 19: This is my masterpiece. 196 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 7: So that's how it started, with a fridge motor. He 197 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 7: took it around the trade show as we tried to 198 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 7: find investors. No one was interested. As far as I 199 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 7: was concerned, it was a hobby, something he tinkered within 200 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 7: the garage. I didn't realize then that. 201 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 8: What didn't you realize, fancis. 202 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 7: That it would lead to the end of everything. Fancy 203 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 7: a cup of tea? 204 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: Love? 205 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: Oh? 206 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: Yes? 207 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 7: One evening we were watching television. The girls were upstairs asleep, 208 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 7: and suddenly Matilda, our dog, began running around in circus bark. 209 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 17: Matilda calmed down. 210 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: Helm's got into her eight Until they come here? 211 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 7: You expecting anyone? 212 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 18: It's probably someone collected for some of that. 213 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 4: All right or right? I'm coming. 214 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 17: Uh yeah, hello, there are you? Thomas pol If not, 215 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 17: I've got their own half. 216 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 13: Hi, I'm Frankie. 217 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 12: Hi, Hi, I'm an alcoholic. 218 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 11: Yeah. 219 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 12: I'd been sober, well semi sober, for you know, about 220 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 12: three years, but the last six months have been, uh 221 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 12: been pretty rough on me. You know, I got divorced. Well, 222 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 12: I mean it wasn't consensual, you know. He he left me, 223 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 12: which was probably a good decision on his part because 224 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 12: I'm a complete mess. 225 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 13: But you know, I'm I'm. 226 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 12: Also a fighter. 227 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 13: So here I am Bagels. 228 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 15: I've got bagel, Good morning yesterday. 229 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 7: Here you go, duncan Oh? 230 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 14: I stay here? 231 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: The best? 232 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 14: Could you remember this extra cream cheese? 233 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 15: Yes, we're all going to have high cholesterol. Now where 234 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 15: is she. 235 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 18: In the back? 236 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: Come on? 237 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 15: So, Frankie, how was your date last night? 238 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: Oh? 239 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 7: Shit, you forgot Huh? 240 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Poor guy. 241 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: He'll be fine. 242 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 11: He's a straight man on tender. 243 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 12: He probably had another date lined up right after. Besides, 244 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 12: I'm preoccupied with who Banil? 245 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 11: Frankie, you got to stop thinking about him. 246 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 17: It's over. 247 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 7: No, not Banil. 248 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 12: I was thinking about Matilda, who. 249 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 14: She named the skeleton Matilda? 250 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 15: You name the skeleton Matilda. 251 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 11: It's cute? 252 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 15: Any reason? 253 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 11: Why? 254 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 7: No? 255 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 12: Not really, It's just sort of came to me. Okay, 256 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 12: there she is that's her in the box. 257 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 14: And I still think it's an alien. 258 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 11: Mm hmm. This is. 259 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 13: Wow. 260 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 15: The bones are so thick. See here, the first seven 261 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 15: ribs are completely fused. They're thick as baseball bats. Right, 262 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 15: I've never seen anything like this? 263 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 17: Who is she? 264 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 11: Not she? 265 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 7: They? 266 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 11: Maybe? 267 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 5: Wait? 268 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 7: Two people? 269 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 15: Oh look at the neck here in the conjoin twins 270 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 15: connected like this, just stacked on top of each other, 271 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 15: their organs would be crushed. 272 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 12: I mean, she's not a conjoined twin, she's not a giant. 273 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 7: Who is she? 274 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 15: I don't there is one other possibility? What I have 275 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 15: to call doctor Lee? 276 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 14: Who my boss? 277 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 15: Can you stop by? 278 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 8: Is there a better light back here? 279 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 14: Maybe turn on the overheads they're already on. 280 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 17: Oh maybe it's just my eyes. No, that can't be possible. 281 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 8: No, no, no, no. 282 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 14: Just say it. 283 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 15: Say what it's FOP right? 284 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 8: FOP yes? 285 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 15: Or to use the technical name fibro dysplasia osipicuns progressive. 286 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 17: My god, there's only been a handful of cases. 287 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 12: Really in your whole career. 288 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 17: Ever, and you have no idea where it came from. 289 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 12: No, she was sent here anonymously. 290 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 8: Well I need to know more. Can I take her 291 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 8: back to my office. 292 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 12: No, sorry, it might be helpful, I know, but it 293 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 12: was sent here ESDA to me. 294 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: Is this about credit? 295 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 11: Yes? 296 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 12: Actually, I'm the curator of this museum. 297 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 8: Who else has seen it? 298 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 15: Just us break it down for me, Doc, What is FOP? 299 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 14: I mean? 300 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 12: If what you're saying is true, if it's so extremely rare, 301 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 12: then finding the owner of this skeleton shouldn't be too hard, right. 302 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: Okay, let's see. 303 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 12: For the next week, I researched every known case of 304 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 12: FOP I could find Harvard Medical Journal, July. It turns 305 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 12: out FOP is an extremely rare genetic disorder that causes 306 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 12: the body's soft tissue to transform permanently into bone. In 307 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 12: other words, a second skeleton grows on top of the first. 308 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 12: Early doctors posited that it was the result of two 309 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 12: souls trapped in one body. Hi, I'm calling about an 310 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 12: old case of a child with FOP back in the 311 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 12: early seventies in a village called Mattie Carrey. Okay, this 312 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 12: might sound kind of strange, but basically, in nineteen seventy two, 313 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 12: in the small farm town of Mahdi, Care, India, a 314 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 12: boy named ragu Basi Maadra was born with FOP. Some 315 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 12: of the locals worshiped him as the reincarnation of the 316 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 12: god Vishnu. You knew the location of that skeleton at 317 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 12: this time. Sorry, unusual cases, and my apartment slowly transformed 318 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 12: into a science lab. I pinned up pictures of bones 319 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 12: on the wall, surrounded by anatomy textbooks and medical journals. 320 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 12: If someone walked in on me, they'd think I was 321 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 12: a doctor, or a serial killer, or just a lonely 322 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 12: woman desperate to connect some dots. 323 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 13: And that our next guest is. 324 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 7: Great. 325 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 12: Meanwhile, my ex husband, Vanil, a professor at Penn, was 326 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 12: on TV promoting his new book about ancient religion. 327 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 21: With you, and we'll just jump right in with the 328 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 21: first question. 329 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 11: Sure, does God exists? 330 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 17: It would depend largely on what you mean by God. 331 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 16: You know what our next move is, right, speciall exhibit 332 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 16: display her display the skeleton for the public, you think, 333 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 16: I know, it'll get people talking, and who knows, maybe 334 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 16: a real academic. 335 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 14: Will show up. 336 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 12: I'm a real academic. 337 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 16: Well, you're also a curator, and it's your job, your 338 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 16: responsibility to bring asses through the. 339 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 12: Door, isn't it asses in the seats? 340 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 14: You know what I mean? Besides, I'd already said, yes, 341 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 14: you spoke to the board. Well, I floated the idea, Duncan. 342 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 14: It'll be fun. 343 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 16: We'll have a party, red carpet, paparazzi, like a respectable museum. 344 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 14: Hi, I'm Duncan. I'm the assistant curator here at the museum. 345 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 15: Wow, this is quite the turnout. 346 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 7: Oh no, cute boys. 347 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 12: Well, Duncan is around here somewhere passing out wine and cheese. 348 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 15: Pass although I could use a drink. Shit, franky, Sorry. 349 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 12: It's okay, I'm a I'm back in the program. 350 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 14: Really. 351 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I'm proud of you. 352 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 15: Come on, let's go check out the star attraction. 353 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 10: Okay, Sda is right. 354 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 12: It is quite the turnout. More than two hundred visitors 355 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 12: have flooded the mutter to see Matilda. 356 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 15: There she is. 357 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 12: The skeleton is presented, simply positioned upright behind a thin 358 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 12: wall of glass. 359 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 15: She's kind of beautiful, don't you think like it? A 360 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 15: Tim Burton way. 361 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 10: It's true, she is beautiful. 362 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 17: Yeah. Hello, are you Thomas Pollard? If not, I've got 363 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 17: the wrong hat. 364 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 18: Yes, I mean no, No, you do have the right house. 365 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 8: I am Thomas Pollard, Mark Whitney. 366 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 17: I'm a friend of father Tim from Saint Louis. 367 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 19: Well, if it's church business, perhaps it's my wife you 368 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 19: want to speak to. 369 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 17: No, no, it's you, Thomas. May I come in. Well 370 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 17: you see, father Tim told me all about your invention. 371 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 17: Oh right, right, I may be able to help you. Well, yes, yes, 372 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 17: of course, come. 373 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 6: On Ina, mm hmmm, oh Francis, this is mister mister Woodney. 374 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 17: Oh well, but I hope I'm not interrupting, and I 375 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 17: think missus Parler. 376 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, it's I was just going 377 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: to make a coop of tea. Can I make you. 378 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 17: If it's not too much trouble. Yes, that well, that 379 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 17: that would be lovely. 380 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry mister. 381 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 17: That's quite all right. 382 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: He we dog come here stopped that. 383 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 18: I don't know what's gotten into her. 384 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: She doesn't like you. 385 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 15: What what you doing down here? 386 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 7: You should be in bed, Maude? 387 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 17: What a lovely name. Hello, little miss I'm Mark Marred. 388 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 7: Off you go upstairs? 389 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 8: Now? 390 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: Can I take Matilda? 391 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 14: Yes? 392 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 8: Off you go go on, good night, good night, maud. 393 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 7: Well, I'll make a cup of tea. I didn't like 394 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 7: mister Whitney from the start. He was too rehearsed, and 395 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 7: the dog didn't like him. Either I didn't trust him. 396 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 18: Mister Whitney, how can I help you? 397 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 17: That's the other way around to us. From what father 398 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 17: Tim tells me, you're a bit of an engineering genius. 399 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 17: Oh well, go as far to say that. You know, 400 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 17: I double don't be modest. I want to see your 401 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 17: refrigerator engine. 402 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 4: Why's that? 403 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 17: Because I'm a businessman. 404 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 19: You see, it takes barely any time to warm up 405 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 19: or cool down. 406 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 17: It's certainly more compact than I've seen before. Some beam 407 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 17: an electrologue aren't marketing anything this small? Well, hey, you've 408 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 17: done your research well. As I said, I am a businessman. 409 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 17: Have you Have you protected it? Have you applied for 410 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 17: a patent so no one can copy it? 411 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 7: Oh? 412 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 19: No, no, no yet, No, there are still few little 413 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 19: niggles that need to be sorted out first. 414 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 17: I should apply for protection. 415 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: You know. 416 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 17: I can't stress how important that it. 417 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 4: Look. 418 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 17: I'll tell you what. I'm going off to London next week. 419 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 17: If you give me the schematics, I can pop into 420 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 17: the patent offers and I can just you know, get 421 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 17: things started for you. 422 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 8: Oh no, no, you don't have to do no, no, no. 423 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 17: You know, no expense on your end. I mean we 424 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 17: can sort that out later, but you really must do 425 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 17: this to protect yourself, you know, and your family. 426 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 21: Morning, Philadelphia Today is Friday, October eighth, and in today's 427 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 21: Talk of the Town segment, a strange story from a 428 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 21: local oddity called the Mutter, a museum dedicated to. 429 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 7: Medical abnormalities. 430 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 14: Their latest arrival. 431 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 12: Yes, I'm watching it. 432 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 15: It's like a human Good morning, Philly. 433 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 11: Remember they're doing the segment. 434 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: On Prepare morning. 435 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 22: We got another box, delivery box. I think it's got 436 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 22: something to do with Matilda. Really, just get out of 437 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 22: bed and come down to the museum. I'm dying to 438 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 22: open it. 439 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 12: Okay, Okay, well, well don't open it, just wait for me. 440 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: What have you got there? Jill? What are you playing with? 441 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: My locket? 442 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 4: Has there everything inside it? 443 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 11: Uh? 444 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 13: Humaine? 445 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 4: If you're safe? Wasn't it now? Jill? Why don't you 446 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: tell me about? 447 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 5: My name is mart? 448 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: Did you? 449 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 8: That doesn't mean everything? 450 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: She's heard me talk? Please let the child speak. 451 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 6: My name is mart all right, Maude, tell me about yourself. 452 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 5: My name is Jill, a years old. 453 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 9: We are eight years old. We live in Hacksome, England. 454 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 11: We ride bikes. 455 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: The Sisters is a Goldhawk production presented by Realm in 456 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 2: association with Lights Out, created by Brett Neatchen and written 457 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: by Brett Neatchen, John Scott Dryden and Mack Rogers. 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