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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this special holiday episode

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Speaker 1: of production of iHeart Radio and Santa. This episode is

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Speaker 1: specifically endorsed by Santa Claus himself.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of product placement in here, gingyb Los.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm joined as always by

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Speaker 1: my co host, mister Miles Yay.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, what a time, What a time,

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Speaker 2: What an episode this is?

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Speaker 3: Actually we're so I'm look, I let's get into.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into it. Miles. To be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third and fourth seats by the hosts of

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Speaker 1: very popular book podcasts Reading Glasses and the newer show

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Speaker 1: Reading Smut from the Maximum Fun Network. Please welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. Malory O'Mara and Briarey.

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Speaker 4: Really called the experts in. We're here to answer some questions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we get them.

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Speaker 4: We're here to me.

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Speaker 2: When you were on the regular episode, we got into talking.

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Speaker 2: I talked to how I've I've I've seen her, dabbled

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Speaker 2: in some more like intense sort of absurd smut. And

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Speaker 2: then when we were Jack and I were talking about like, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we do these like run of episodes every

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Speaker 2: like during the holidays. How do we do something different?

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Speaker 2: We always talk about like the horniest movies.

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Speaker 1: We have one horny Christmas episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we always have a morning songs.

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Speaker 1: We've done horny movies, Yeah, horny shows.

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Speaker 4: We're so honored to be here for your Horny Christmas book.

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Speaker 2: It was a moment we're like, what are we doing, Like, dude,

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Speaker 2: band brand Mallory, they all the horny books.

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Speaker 4: You put a And we looked up in the sky

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Speaker 4: one night and there was a penis sign.

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Speaker 1: In the sky.

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Speaker 4: We need they need us.

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Speaker 3: The cos the cock signal has been literally that big thing.

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Speaker 1: Energy is earned. As we learned about our one of

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Speaker 1: our two protagonists, Nolan was his last name Kawalski.

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Speaker 3: But then sorry, sorry to Polish racism.

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Speaker 1: I mean if I was Polish, I'd be like, hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: hell yeah, Nolan representation. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I mean.

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Speaker 1: The question at the heart of our traditional Christmas Horny

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Speaker 1: Christmas episodes is, as we're discussing before we start recording,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the charts of the most common birthdays,

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Speaker 1: they all cluster around nine months after the next few weeks,

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Speaker 1: like people are about to be fucking So this is

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Speaker 1: essentially like it's not it's not a huge thing, but

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Speaker 1: it's like this is technically humanity's mating season. But it's

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Speaker 1: not how we tend to think about Christmas. Like there

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Speaker 1: are horny songs, they're like horny movies here and there.

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Speaker 1: But I would say when when discussing Christmas, it's not

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Speaker 1: one of the first thing that comes up.

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Speaker 4: It's romantic.

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Speaker 1: It's not exactly yea Halloween is probably like what what

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Speaker 1: do we think are stereotypically.

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Speaker 4: Corns on our show? Is Halloween's the horneous holiday. You're

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Speaker 4: dressing up in a slutty costume, it's candy, it's very adult,

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Speaker 4: you're staying up late. There's trickery afoot. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: a very mischievous holiday. I mean there's like there's there's

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Speaker 4: like you know, Santa outfits and elf outfits, but you

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Speaker 4: don't have you don't have the like nobody's there's a

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Speaker 4: bunch of people in this world that like let out

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Speaker 4: their inner slut on Halloween. You don't have people who

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Speaker 4: don't let out their inner slut on Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Right, That seems weird And even in the book that

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Speaker 1: we read, which we can reveal was a merry little

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Speaker 1: meat cute. There. There are moments where the characters are

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Speaker 1: kind of being like, oh my god, it's so weird

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Speaker 4: It's also such a holiday for children as well. It's

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Speaker 4: also a holiday apparently for making children, which is not

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Speaker 5: Like the romance part of it, you know, where you're

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Speaker 5: like you're you're cuddling in bed and you're like, let's

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Speaker 6: Like, you know, it's you make the children.

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Speaker 1: Direct from me. There.

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Speaker 3: That's makes some debt. Sure sounds good.

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Speaker 2: I know on your show, you guys typically do like

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Speaker 2: a quick run through and then we can kind of

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Speaker 2: dive in. Would you guys mind just oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: can speak speed run through the plot. I will be

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Speaker 2: fully transparent. This was as like four hundred pages or something.

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Speaker 4: Really impressed the two of you.

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Speaker 2: For the full disclosure, I got about fifty five percent

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Speaker 2: of the way through.

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Speaker 4: Fine, you got, you got, you got the you got

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Speaker 4: the gist.

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Speaker 3: I got the Jiz. Absolutely, Hey, but.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of foul language we're going to this podcast.

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Speaker 4: If you have children around, speaking of, you might want

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Speaker 4: to wait till this episode.

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Speaker 2: Which is funny because there are people who are like,

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Speaker 2: my kids love your podcast. I'm like, our our fucking podcast.

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Speaker 3: They listen to this ship.

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Speaker 2: But give us just a quick synopsis and then you

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Speaker 2: kind of dive in because I think, like you said

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Speaker 2: before we recorded, like you have questions for us, we

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Speaker 2: got questions for you too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a meeting of the minds, truly summit.

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Speaker 4: If you will on Horny Christmas, the finest minds across

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Speaker 4: the Internet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that would be very helpful because I just

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Speaker 1: finished the book last night.

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Speaker 4: A lot to keep track of.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot, there's a lot of moving parts here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because something that is a sort of Hallmark now

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Speaker 4: no pun, indbit of romance novels is that there's sort

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Speaker 4: up the series that I think there's like four books

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Speaker 4: in this series. Forreer, you can correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Okay, this is book one of the multi Okay,

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Speaker 5: They're giving a lot of attention to, like the makeup

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Speaker 5: artist or the costumer whoever. Yeah, yeah, that guy's going

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Speaker 2: You know that's not of right, because Luca hooked up

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Speaker 4: Okay, So we begin our story. There is a man

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Speaker 4: who is a movie producer. He typically produces porn films,

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Speaker 4: a small town in Vermont that is basically set dressed

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Speaker 1: She burned to hard.

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Speaker 4: We want the producer starts sweating. He goes, ah, are

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Speaker 4: Know, yeah we actually even these porn producer calls up

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Speaker 5: From there, they have to kiss in the very first scene,

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Speaker 5: so then they decide they're going to like just fuck

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Speaker 1: Works they yeah, yeah. When they first kiss, we also

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Speaker 1: which is Nolan's throbbing member.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a very important character.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's actually my f and every and every every

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the level of penis awareness is such that even

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Speaker 2: as a penis have her.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, you're very in tune with.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what is Dix doing right now?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's my first question for the two of you.

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Speaker 4: Is that something that one of our we talked about

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Speaker 4: this on our show, and one of our guests pointed

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Speaker 4: Christmas trees turn into men and then the lady fucks

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I wear a garter belt. I really keep

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Speaker 4: The very enthusiastic penises in these.

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Speaker 4: There's why are people limping around Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Is my question?

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Speaker 1: That's like kind of the Nolan energy is like he's like,

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Speaker 4: And run around? Yeah he's but yeah, we talked about

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Speaker 3: Jackie off with gingerbread lotion.

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Speaker 4: The gingerbread lotion I have a hard time with because

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Speaker 5: Like I'm not mad at it.

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Speaker 6: I love a cookie smell. I love like a sweet.

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Speaker 5: Smell, Like I could fill my whole house with those candles. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: This is like a Christmas themed cozy little inn that

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Speaker 3: To the point where the one dancer's name was prancer.

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Speaker 5: Strip club, you better be called Yeah, you.

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Speaker 4: Better have jingle bells attached to your nipples.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, That's That's the whole thing of like what we're

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It wasn't that like it provided an

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Speaker 2: What it did for me it was like, man, we

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Speaker 3: It's like smash.

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Speaker 1: The thing that these characters are experiencing where they're like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're not going to see him fucking You're

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Speaker 2: I feel like you would do phenomenally well if you're like,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean right now. The biggest thing in

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Speaker 3: Straight on, straight on flash.

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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, okay, it's very very smutty.

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Speaker 1: Is it an aroused penis? Because I do know that

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Speaker 6: but it can't be.

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Speaker 2: You can be thinking about it on the way out

445
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: if it's on the way out from fully right.

446
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: Brings up a good point. Did you guys watch the

447
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Tim Robinson HBO show The Chair Company Scrooge that Eboneze

448
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: aer Scroogee are Scrooge another? Uh, you know bringing the

449
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: horny to the holidays?

450
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, party was like, I guess they're banging with that.

451
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: So I think this is an idea that people have,

452
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: Like everybody understands it. But then there is like some

453
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: force in popular culture, probably the fact that it's like

454
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: we think of it as a children's time of the year.

455
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: And also I feel like, what if Santa had what

456
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: if the first version of Santa that like had been

457
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: designed was like hot gotten there a little quicker.

458
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: Santa is mostly a creation of Coca Cola, Like you

459
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 4: can actually track that, Like the inclusion of Santa in

460
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: American Christmas is mostly because of coke, and I don't

461
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Speaker 4: I don't think that they were when they were designing

462
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 4: this jolly man being like but what if people wanted

463
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 4: to fuck?

464
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the other part is that very sexy.

465
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a religious holiday too, like to

466
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: start off with like sort of the real Yeah Halloween technically.

467
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: No, but it's not.

468
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Speaker 5: It's not it's not like church on Halloween though it's.

469
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Speaker 2: Not that some people do, but I mean, like, it's

470
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: not the foundation of a religion where you're the literal

471
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 2: Christ figure is born and then be like yeah, and

472
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: people were fucking you know what I mean, And they

473
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: were nining probably near the main.

474
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: Story of where that Christ child came from.

475
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, virgin.

476
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: But I think so, I think having that theme thematically

477
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: is probably like a bridge too far. Whereas for me,

478
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: like I was raised going to like religious schools, but

479
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: I was, what does the ship matter?

480
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: But I really, like, I think that's the hesitations.

481
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: You're like, let's just not acknowledge that my boner is

482
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: kicking through my sweatpants right around I stink of gingerbread

483
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: lotion and rotten cookie dough.

484
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Speaker 4: Well, a lot of the companies that are making these

485
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: movies too, like Hallmark is not going to be making

486
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: a Penis kick no, no, So we just need other

487
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 4: studios or like Netflix, because Netflix has all the Princess

488
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 4: Switch movies. They have a Castle for Christmas and like

489
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: they have all those like Netflix Christmas universes. We need

490
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 4: Netflix to sack up and make a smutty Christmas movie,

491
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 4: is really what it comes down to, because we don't

492
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: Homemark can't do it. A lot of the one other

493
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: people who churn out these like Christmas rom comms. Netflix

494
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: call me, we can, we can. We can adapt this

495
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: book together, you can direct it. We all write it for.

496
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Speaker 1: The Hope Channel, you know, reach out the Hope Channel.

497
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

498
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Speaker 1: So I'm curious as few as you know people who

499
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Speaker 1: are like have read these types of books before, because

500
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: Miles and I were reading this and like talking about

501
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: it more like this, like this isn't really that smutty,

502
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: And then you get to the first sex scene and

503
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: then it like goes all the way in so to speak.

504
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: People wicked fucking had ye, And.

505
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: I like, is that typically, Like I mean, obviously she's

506
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: a adult performer, so like there's acknowledging of that. You know,

507
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: there's loup and stuff like that. But it then like

508
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: goes into this gear that I was. Do you guys

509
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: remember the movie Naked Gun two and a half, there's

510
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: no there's this scene where like this really boring academic

511
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: is like addressing a crowd and they're all falling asleep

512
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: and there's an emergency, and so.

513
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 3: He starts reading smut.

514
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hands him a smut book and this is

515
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: what he reads. His strong manly hands probe to every

516
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: crevice of her silken femininity, their undulating bodies writhing in

517
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: sensual rhythm as he thrust his purple headed warrior into

518
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: a quivering mound of love pudding, and like it went

519
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: there like right away, but like also just not with that,

520
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: without the metaphorical stuff, it was just like cock and

521
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: I mean, all the different words for vagina were used.

522
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 4: So what's really going to blow your mind is that

523
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 4: this book is pretty not smutty compared to some of

524
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 4: the other things that we read.

525
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Speaker 1: I was looking at the good Reads things and they

526
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, no, like a two and a half

527
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: on the spicy ye maybe.

528
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not that it's not that spicy, it's just

529
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 5: there's not The scenes themselves were written.

530
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 6: Pretty explicitly, though.

531
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 5: I think the scenes were appropriately like spicy, it's just

532
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 5: there wasn't as many.

533
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean, there's one line b Hobbs was sucking my

534
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: soul out through my dick.

535
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: That was a pretty wilde hero Wow.

536
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, people writing if you ask, but there was a few.

537
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Speaker 2: I have one question because obviously I feel like the

538
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: most consumers of this are women. When Nolan kept referring

539
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: to bees cunt like he's like soft hunt, I was like,

540
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: what the fuck is that?

541
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 4: I think I think it's a it's a pretty common

542
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: thing that a lot of women don't like the term

543
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: pussy effectively because it's so used as like, oh you

544
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: don't want to just off the roof, you fuck it, puss,

545
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: Like there's just like there's so many other uses of

546
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: that term and cunt. I think a lot of women

547
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: have kind of like reclaimed it, if you if you're

548
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: like in women's faces, Like there's tons of T shirts

549
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 4: and ear rings and stuff.

550
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Speaker 2: So I get that, but like I didn't realize it

551
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: was like hot to be like, yeah.

552
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of like a reclamation. Like I

553
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: don't see a lot of women like wearing a T

554
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: shirt that says pussy on it, and a lot of

555
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: women that like there's there's an author that I really

556
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: like that is gigantic hoop earrings that say cunt in them.

557
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: Like I think it's like a feminist sort of reclamation.

558
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: I see that because it's used obviously as a pejorative,

559
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 2: but I mean like in terms of like the hotness.

560
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: That's that's why I think it was just struck. I

561
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: think as a man, because like I've.

562
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: Never just.

563
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: To like upset to say that.

564
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Or yeah or just like crying.

565
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: What do you want me to do to your cunt words?

566
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: So they have like creative interesting like and is that

567
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: like this did feel like once you get to the

568
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: sex scenes, it was pretty kind of paint by numbers,

569
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: I guess, Like.

570
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: I mean there's a formula. I mean a lot of

571
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: these books follow follow a formula, like you can't you

572
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 4: have your kissing and then you have your finger bang scene,

573
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: and then you have your oral scene and then you

574
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: finally get to bang and.

575
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: Oh so it's like first base sec.

576
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: Oh.

577
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 6: The usually ends with anal yeah, oh yeah.

578
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: That was a big complaint on good Reads, was like

579
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: they tease anal. I mean, like there's so much and

580
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: I had that thought because they keep referenced like she

581
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: brings lube everywhere with her. It was like, there's gonna

582
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: be an anal scene.

583
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: Well, the problem is you don't want to have anal

584
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: after you eat Christmas dinner? Is really the.

585
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: Thing, right, That's one thing that does not you just

586
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: you don't want that. We want pro creative sets in Christmas.

587
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: I can feel like the right, that's the future of

588
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: the right. Like this useless, this horny Christmas movie did

589
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: not have pro creative sex.

590
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: In too much.

591
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: Thing is that's a big thing right now? Is breeding

592
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: is like it's something we see a lot in the road.

593
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: There's like a big subgenre of romance where women get

594
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: pregnant and you have seen and the rise of that

595
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: coincide with the rise of like more conservative media tradwive

596
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: stuff like the world of Romance is just as reflective

597
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: of the regular of like the world at large. I

598
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: don't think you and I haven't really read a breeding book.

599
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 6: It would be tough.

600
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: What's the milking farm? Is that one of the.

601
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: There there's they just want all of that semen. They're

602
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: not trying to use it for anything because it's.

603
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 6: Like magical or something. Not reading. Not a breeding.

604
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: Scare in the world.

605
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: Comes from.

606
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: That's the funniest part is in the world of the

607
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: Morning Gooring Milking Farm is that one of the main

608
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 4: ingredients for human viagra is found in minotaur semen. So

609
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: they there's all these different facilities where that semen is

610
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 4: harvested and then they use it to like in a

611
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: pharmaceutical way.

612
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: And in the reality of that book, everyone's like, yeah,

613
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: there's meno taurs, Oh yeah, there's all kinds.

614
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: The monsters is like we'd actually did the second book

615
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: in that series this year with a mothman guy who

616
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: ate a girl out while he was still outside her house.

617
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 5: Gigantic if you wanted to be like, you know, more interesting,

618
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: like you know, the monster because.

619
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 6: Because he's a moth.

620
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: So he did long distance kind of lingis yeah right

621
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: because long.

622
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your guest did that.

623
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: I was like, damn you guys. I was like, mothman,

624
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: a mothman, someone who.

625
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 4: Joined in the book. This an actual moth man is

626
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: in the three outside this woman's house and her window

627
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: is open and his gigantic, like ten foot long tongue

628
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: comes in her window.

629
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Speaker 3: I love it.

630
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: I mean by like a very little meat cue compared

631
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: to some of the other stuff. Grounded, very grounded, pretty

632
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: pretty even though we're not getting butt sex, like pretty

633
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: pretty normal.

634
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was really enjoyable, like it's

635
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: very funny, yeah, because it it totally just It's like

636
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: a very like a Nora e f Ron kind of

637
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: opening with like you know, the guy on the phone,

638
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: like what happened to my lead?

639
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: And then like all these jokes about this off brand

640
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: burning Man theater.

641
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: There's like stuff about there's stuff about the film industry.

642
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is the manager? Did you a tough cookie?

643
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: There was part there's one part I clocked as an

644
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 2: Angelina that upset me where the authors were trying to

645
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: write like la people and they're like yeah, what about

646
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: I four oh five?

647
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: I four oh five.

648
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to fuck you up for saying that,

649
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: But like there were like little moments like that. But

650
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: other than that, I thought I could already it's funny.

651
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: I think that That's why I was like, why are

652
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: they making movies like this? Because it was so clearly

653
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: like had this pacting the witty dialogue that you feel

654
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: like any sort of production company with some kind of

655
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: profit motivation, like we need to take a swing on

656
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: this ship.

657
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think if someone made if someone stepped up

658
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: and made a Christmas movie that was very filthy, it

659
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: would make five hundred million dollars.

660
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Yes, it'd be like this movie with a really like

661
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: solid cast and tease it as a Christmas movie and

662
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: then just half really hardcore.

663
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: It was just a pair of girl grace wetpants and

664
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: a penis kicking insteady.

665
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: And then the pis with a boot on the end.

666
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Speaker 4: And every time it kicks you hear a jingle bell.

667
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Speaker 1: That's right. My main takeaway is like, wait, this should

668
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Speaker 1: be a movie. It's about the making of a movie.

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Speaker 1: It's very cinematic, like our Hornius Christmas. We were talking

670
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Speaker 1: earlier and I was like what what is our horniest

671
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Speaker 1: mainstream Christmas movie? And like Brian the editor was saying,

672
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Speaker 1: like maybe eyes wide shut.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, that movie's fucked up.

674
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Speaker 2: Batman Returnsman returns very that's like cent, it's not like

675
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like where was the you

676
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Speaker 2: know where they're fucking though.

677
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Speaker 4: Is actually fucking I mean shut probably yeah.

678
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Speaker 1: But like that doesn't make the like people's top ten lists,

679
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: like best holiday movies?

680
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Speaker 4: Yeah not maybe not your friends really yeah. The live

681
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Speaker 4: action Grinch with Chim Carrey is extremely party. I have

682
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Speaker 4: never seen anyone horny for somebody as what is her name,

683
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: Christine Daranski? Oh yeah, every time she sees the Grinch,

684
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: you could see her penis kicking like she is. It

685
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: is so wild. But they don't fuck, They just just once.

686
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Speaker 1: That seems to be the way. Like the sweet spot

687
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Speaker 1: for holiday movies up to this point is like it's

688
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Speaker 1: around the edge. Like there is literally a part in

689
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Speaker 1: the Ron Howard Grinch movie where you see that the

690
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Speaker 1: Who's are having a key party, but like it's just

691
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Speaker 1: a blinking you miss it type thing.

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Speaker 4: You know it's gonna be It's gonna be love actually,

693
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Speaker 4: because there's i mean, so many of the couples. There's

694
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Speaker 4: the guy, the two sex tourists who come to America.

695
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Speaker 4: There's the Martin Freeman porn porno stand ins s, There's

696
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Speaker 4: there's a bunch of like sexy scenes in love.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I guess, Like, I guess a film where,

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Speaker 2: like you, I said, is one where you're like, but

699
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Speaker 2: what if you're going to describe it in like three words,

700
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Speaker 2: the first word has.

701
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Speaker 3: To be so fucking yeah. I guess that was three words.

702
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: I just that's the three words you use.

703
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: This other person should be.

704
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Speaker 1: So, I just said some of my notes from this,

705
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Speaker 1: they keep referencing her boy shorts.

706
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 6: That, well, he underwear, she's wearing sorts.

708
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Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, are cute or I guess they do?

709
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Speaker 4: Are you if you're both married, if your wife is

710
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: walking around in boy shorts? Are you kicking?

711
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Speaker 3: I guess I don't call them boy shorts, though, I

712
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Speaker 3: mean I know what those are. Yeah, I don't know

713
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: you call them. We call them short shorts.

714
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess a little short shorts shorts is

715
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Speaker 1: kind of where I'm.

716
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Speaker 3: At with that.

717
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I like anything, you know, to

718
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Speaker 2: be honest, I like it all.

719
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Speaker 1: My other note, oh man, this guy's penis is so

720
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Speaker 1: hard and her boobs heavy heavy.

721
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Speaker 6: They were described as heavy because some boobs.

722
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Speaker 4: Are of those things around.

723
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

724
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Speaker 2: The other thing was like hearing a guy talk about

725
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: it as is cock so much?

726
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: Is that? Does that do anything for the reader? Or

727
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: is it?

728
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Speaker 2: Are there words like if you ranked hottish ways to

729
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Speaker 2: describe a phallis like what the.

730
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Speaker 4: Number one penis is at the.

731
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Speaker 5: Bottom penisl for sure, I don't know across the board.

732
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Speaker 6: Everyone likes it, but it is.

733
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Speaker 3: The one that are there debates over it?

734
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Speaker 2: People were like, yes, if we have something else, like

735
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Speaker 2: is that always had to be cock?

736
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: I mean dick is kind of middle of the road.

737
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels insufficient, purpleheaded worry or where does that when?

738
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Speaker 4: Because I think cock is kind of like cut in

739
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: the way that like you don't use it for a

740
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 4: lot of other things, Like you're like, oh, that guy's

741
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: being a dick. You're never like that guy's being a cock,

742
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: Like sometimes he'll say cocksucker, but it's not used for

743
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: a lot of other things and like that, So it's

744
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Speaker 4: kind of.

745
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Speaker 3: Hot sun there you go.

746
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Speaker 5: But I think you want to hear them in these books.

747
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: You do want to hear them talk about it. You

748
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: want to hear them talk about that is important part

749
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Speaker 5: of the books.

750
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Speaker 3: No, for sure, it can't be embarrassed.

751
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 6: Co it cannot be embarrassed, and it has to be

752
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 6: large and throbbing.

753
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: It has to be.

754
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't funny though, too, like his It's almost like

755
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: his dick was in control everything, because he would be like.

756
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, oh no, my talk.

757
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: Separate entity. It's getting a supporting oscar not ye.

758
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: Which I get, I mean, because that's obviously the point

759
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: of like your lust and your physical desires and things

760
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: like that. But again, these are this is a very

761
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Speaker 2: new experience for me reading it. I was just like

762
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Speaker 2: going over like the literary nuances of things, and I

763
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: was like, cock, okay, it doesn't.

764
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: Seem a lot more unpredictable than I think they might

765
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: actually be in real life.

766
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Mmmmm yeah. I just think it's such a missed opportunity.

767
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: Victor asked, why did he do his Jimmy Stewart.

768
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: Voice was saying, oh, no, my god, because that's what

769
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: it felt like. It felt like George the whole brother, I'm.

770
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: Going to do this thing. I gotta and I got

771
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Speaker 3: to be on set in ten minutes. Off again, Yeah,

772
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: I better jerk off. Where's the gingerbread lotion?

773
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: That might be what Jimmy what George Bailey was dealing with.

774
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: That's a wonderful life.

775
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you just had to.

776
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: Run off and jack off every time he ran off.

777
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: But it was the Hayes code, so that happened.

778
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they have to release the jerk

779
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Speaker 4: off cut of It's a Wonderful Life.

780
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure, but with AI, anything is possible. Sorry,

781
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I know.

782
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Speaker 2: So just generally too, Like you're saying, genre wise, this

783
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Speaker 2: ranks like where do you put this in terms of

784
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: if I'm looking at a map of styles of smut romance,

785
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: where does this kind of like what are the words

786
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: we're using to describe this, because I've follow up questions

787
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Speaker 2: to that this is.

788
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: An open door romance. So there's two, the two big

789
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: the big delineation is a romance and an erotica. A

790
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: romance book the main like thrust of the story alone,

791
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: these two characters heading together, like the romance of it all,

792
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: and there's you can have closed door romances where sex

793
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: is happening, you're just not seeing it on the page

794
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: or a spie or like a we call it spicy,

795
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: but an open door romance where sex is happening and

796
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: you're fucking seeing it, and erotica, which is more of

797
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: the smut world is like, really the kind of point

798
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: of the book is the sex scenes. Like when we

799
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Speaker 4: read Heated Rivalry last month, I would say eighty percent

800
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Speaker 4: of that book is sex scenes. There's like the barest

801
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 4: suggestion of plot and like kind of the point of

802
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 4: the book is the sex scenes, whereas a book like

803
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Speaker 4: this and Very Little Meat Cute is kind of there's

804
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 4: a lot, there's a ton of other side characters. There's

805
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 4: a lot of other stories, like much more plot happened.

806
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: The sex is supporting the plot, whereas an erotica plot

807
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: is supporting the sex.

808
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 6: But the sex goes hard in both.

809
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 5: So like you're not going to read a romance book

810
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: that I mean, you might, but it's close door. But

811
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: if you're you're not mean, you're reading a lot of romance.

812
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 5: It doesn't go hard, like it's always going to have scenes.

813
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: Where it's like if it's to say, they're definitely going

814
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 7: to saying cock in every cute little romance talking like

815
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 7: no one not that it was harder than and then

816
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: there's a lot of tropes this one checks as well.

817
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's a contemporary obviously installus like Mallory said,

818
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: but then for forbidden taboo and then celebrity normal person

819
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 5: is a big one that we talked.

820
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Speaker 1: About nodding Hill.

821
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, nodding Hill type thing.

822
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 5: But this is also kind of like they're both celebrities

823
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: in some ways, so it's not quite that.

824
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: But I liked that setup like that. Yeah, I did,

825
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: like really feel like this should be a movie, like

826
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: the characters would slot in really well to like a

827
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, holiday movie type situation. I thought the plot

828
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: worked pretty well. When you're talking about like erotica, is

829
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Speaker 1: the writing in the sex scenes similar like here and

830
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Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm wrong, Like this felt a

831
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Speaker 1: lot like the sex scenes felt like somewhat samey, like

832
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Speaker 1: almost like the writers were struggling up against.

833
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's only so many words you could exactly. Yeah,

834
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Speaker 4: that's why. I think that's why the setup is kind

835
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Speaker 4: of like, at least with romance novels and erotica, things

836
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: can get really crazy. But in romance novels. You generally

837
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 4: like you have your first skiss and then they they

838
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: hook up and then they'll like finger bang, but they're

839
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: not going to fuck immediately, Like you have to make

840
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: the situation different because there's only so many words for

841
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Speaker 4: gendles and orifices that like aren't silly, you know, right right,

842
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: like you're usually pretty quickly you're scraping the bottom of

843
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: the barrel and you're and then you start going, maybe

844
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Speaker 4: Purple Headed Warrior is.

845
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: Not so much making mistakes.

846
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Speaker 4: So I mean, truly, we really commend erotica writers and

847
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: romance writers because you better yeah, really, because your addiction

848
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: has to be on point.

849
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

850
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: The other thing, so I put, like the writing style

851
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: to me felt like a Hallmark movie, Like it was

852
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: very easy to understand, It's very linear.

853
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: It didn't there wasn't a lot of like it didn't

854
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: feel like literature.

855
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: If I was looking at like so, if that's Hallmark

856
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: movie and I'm looking for like the HBO of it,

857
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: what's what's a book like that?

858
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: Because it's it felt just very accessible.

859
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: But pardon me, was like, maybe I want something a

860
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: little more challenging, you know what I mean, something a

861
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: little more I mean.

862
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Speaker 4: There there's a lot there. There really is a lot

863
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: so things. Things can get as weird and literary as

864
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: you want, and there are I mean, there are some

865
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 4: literary fiction books out there that get erotic, that are

866
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 4: erotic and uh, are pretty surreal. But even like, especially

867
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: in the monster fucking world, I'm certain I'm thinking of

868
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: like the Harley LaRue book Demon Book we saw today

869
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: where there's like a cult and there's like a lot

870
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: of stuff happening and it's kind of, uh, it doesn't

871
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: follow with like the sort of neat we're doing this

872
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 4: and then we're doing this, and then we're doing this.

873
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: Her Soul to Take No, No, Yeah, Her Soul to

874
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Speaker 4: Take by Harley LaRue is like it's part horror novel,

875
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: it's but it's also erotica. So like the structure is

876
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: a little bit different.

877
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: I think also, like the thing about a romance book

878
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 5: is you are actually coming for that structure.

879
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 6: You're coming for a very.

880
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 5: Specific structure, a happy happily or after like and sort

881
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 5: of you know the sex scenes are going to be

882
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 5: paid out at this certain you're kind of coming for

883
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 5: that structure, so you start to straight. Yeah, So I

884
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: think when it starts to stray, books start getting labeled

885
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 5: as something else. Right, reading a litter a fiction book,

886
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 5: I think you are reading whatever, Like I'm thinking of Credence, okay,

887
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 5: and a pretty well written book. Actually, I love John

888
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 5: start calling them literary fiction at times, even though they'll

889
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 5: have sex scenes in them. So I think that's where

890
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 5: and because I mean, these books are like people don't

891
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: consider them literary, right, and so if they follow this formula,

892
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: I think they're going to be sort of shoved into

893
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: this romance category.

894
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 6: Do you want to tell them about Credence.

895
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Well, you just want to say, like as I was saying,

896
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: like the sex scenes by the like fourth one like

897
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: feel a little The fourth one is actually the best one.

898
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: I think she's like in her wedding dress and like

899
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: they literally on the altar of a church, like because

900
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: they're rehearsing.

901
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: See the second book we've had this year that has

902
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: an alter fo scene, Yeah.

903
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like maybe the third one, I was like,

904
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: this feels a little bit repetitive. I will say that

905
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: it's so much better than like the sex scenes that

906
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: you get in like detective fiction books that are like

907
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: written by sixty year old men who are like it

908
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: used to be.

909
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 4: A cop and a whole lot. The only times they've

910
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: seen women is when they're dead on the street.

911
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of my thing. The are you going to

912
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: be covering in the monster fucking genre? American Conto Olivia

913
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: book about her.

914
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 4: Affair with the r F oh Man, I mean, you

915
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: know that guy's dick looks.

916
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Crazy, like, oh my god, like an.

917
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: There's just like Hoggle from Labyrinth.

918
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: Yah, any description of anyone in orbit of that administration,

919
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: it's always the weirdest dicks.

920
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so collection of the weirdest dicks in the world.

921
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, not all the gingerbread lotion in the world to

922
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 5: they Yeah.

923
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 4: So, As Brice said, the thing is that's a draw

924
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 4: for a lot of readers is the predictability. You know

925
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: what you're getting because there's something in the romance world

926
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: called the happily ever after. It is u it is

927
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 4: the acronym is hias, and that's if you don't have

928
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 4: a happily ever after, it's not classified as a romance

929
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: like and so there's some erotica books that don't have

930
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: a happily ever after. They have a lot of the

931
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: same tropes. There there's a lot of sex, but their

932
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: structure differently, which kind of makes them erotica. But some

933
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 4: of them are are really strange and wild. We did

934
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: one called Credence, which has what was it ria, like

935
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 4: almost two hundred thousand reviews on Goodreads, Like this book

936
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: has been reprinted eighteen times. It is unbelievably popular, and

937
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: it is about eighteen year old girl who goes to

938
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: live with her step uncle and step cousins. It's very

939
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: important that you note the step that biologically related to.

940
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: She familiar with this, yeah, yeah, yeah.

941
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: She's seen in a laundry room where her head is

942
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: stuck in the washing.

943
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: Machine, which I actually have the theory about. But she

944
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: goes to live in this like secluded cabin and what

945
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 4: is it bri Colorado, Yeah, something with the three of them,

946
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: and she bangs all of them, and like she processes

947
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: her trauma through banging these guys. It is so it's

948
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: like six hundred pages. It is so it's not just sex.

949
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 4: It's like so much like it feels literary in the

950
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: way that there's just so much like internal journeys happening

951
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: that don't have to do with sex. It's really wild.

952
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 4: We didn't even ask anyone We didn't have a guest

953
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 4: on it for that episode because we were.

954
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 6: Like, who, we can't ask to read a six hundred

955
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 6: page undred pages.

956
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: To literary well, I think, But also part of the

957
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 5: appeal of romance is that it's comforting.

958
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 6: You know how it's going to happen. You know how

959
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 6: they are going to kind of but unfold.

960
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: But there are things that get weird, Like there are

961
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: alien there's a lot of alien shit.

962
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 6: I mean, we were talking.

963
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 5: About monsters and then you have weirder stuff happening because

964
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: you know, when you have like a minotaur there, like

965
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 5: think of the tongue action. You know, like things don't

966
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 5: or really don't or don't you know whenever.

967
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: Think about the moth man, think about the mom.

968
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, moth man has a pouch that he keeps

969
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: his penis in like shape of water.

970
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Oh I love that opens. Yeah, and then it comes out.

971
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: We all rememberady, polite penis. Yes, you have to invite

972
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: it out.

973
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: You're a little not yeah, vampire penis. You have to

974
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: invite it in.

975
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: It makes a little door creaking noise when I comes.

976
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: Back WD forty on those hinges. Man.

977
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm curious though too, because we're talking about the whole

978
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Christmas part. How did this perform given the Christmas texture?

979
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: Does it matter? Do audience's care? Is it people?

980
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: There's so much Christmas romance book. This is a very

981
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: popular book. Both of these authors, Julie Murphy and Sierra Simone,

982
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 4: are very popular separately. This was Julie Murphy's first ever

983
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: like smutty book. Most of her she's written a lot

984
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 4: of milk. She's famously the author of Dumplin, a movie

985
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: that came out twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, I think, with

986
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: Jennifer Aniston in it, so she's kind of known as

987
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: more of like a YA writer. But Sierra Simone is

988
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 4: a straight up smut writer and they're best friends. They

989
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 4: wrote this book together. This book is very very popular.

990
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 4: They have a book coming out in January together that

991
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: is already going to be one of the biggest books

992
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: of the year. So even amongst a very popular subgenre,

993
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 4: this book in this book series do very well.

994
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: Got It, Got It?

995
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: And is that book the next book in the series

996
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: set in Christmas? Notch or No, it's.

997
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 4: Not Fundamentals of being a Good Girl.

998
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm going to read that. That sounds that.

999
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: Sounds it's about a it's about a single dad professor

1000
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: and his nanny who's also his student.

1001
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: Ow one of the notes that I saw in Goodreads

1002
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: was people being like I could have done without the

1003
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: Nolan chapter, like because their inner monologue wasn't like that different,

1004
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: like I could, Yeah, it's mostly yeah, So like if

1005
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: he was more of a mystery, like these would be

1006
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: my like three notes for it would be like if

1007
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: he's if it's all from Be's perspective and he's more

1008
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: of a mystery, and then you like find out a

1009
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: little bit later that he's like a huge fan of

1010
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: her work, then it like could have been a little

1011
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: bit more of a twist the thing I was saying earlier.

1012
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: About it.

1013
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: Could have been hotter for me. I don't know the

1014
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: thing about the producer like intentionally bringing her thing, And

1015
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: then I wish they hadn't bailed on the like the

1016
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: Duluth Olympics, like Nolan's backstory, is there a boy band

1017
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: figure who's similarly tarnish. Yeah, but he had like gotten

1018
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: caught in an orgy with two speed skaters and it

1019
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: sounds great, and then they ruin it by being like

1020
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: she called me because I was the only person she

1021
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: could come to for like food poisoning, and like, I

1022
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: was actually not there having sex with her. I was

1023
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: just like what we were okay with him being a

1024
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: piece of shit.

1025
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1026
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, I don't think having an orgy with olympians

1027
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 4: is worthy.

1028
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 6: Of the ruined her career. That was the whole thing. Whatever.

1029
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 5: She wasn't able to be in the Olympics and it

1030
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: ruined her career, and everyone blames him for that, but honestly,

1031
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 5: you know, yeah.

1032
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: And again, like another example of this guy just being

1033
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: preternaturally bad at giving key pieces of information that explain

1034
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: his actions.

1035
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 3: To make.

1036
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 5: This is in all the books, there's always like something

1037
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 5: where someone's like you could just text them and tell them,

1038
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 5: be like hey, this is what's going on, you know,

1039
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 5: but it never happens, and then you know, six months

1040
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: later they meet again randomly. You know, like this is

1041
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 5: sort of you have to sort of play with these

1042
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: setups in these contemporary books because phones exist and right

1043
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 5: right right kind of just you know, you choose to

1044
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: look the other way.

1045
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's that's my other question for the two

1046
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 4: of you, because obviously the lions chair of these books

1047
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 4: are aimed at cis women readers, and there's a sort

1048
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 4: of prevailing sort of stereotype. Maybe not that like men

1049
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: don't get horny breeding about stuff like was this sexy

1050
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: to you got like gingerbread lotion aside where you were like,

1051
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: oh this is like this, I can see where this

1052
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: is sexy.

1053
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it had its moments for sure. Yeah. Yeah,

1054
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: there were definitely parts that were sexy.

1055
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: I think the setup was immediately I was like, okay,

1056
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: you know, you're like christ did tell me?

1057
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: Hold on?

1058
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: I know people on the internet that I think are attractive,

1059
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And having that sort of

1060
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: wish fulfillment even I was like I could wrap my

1061
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: head around that as like a straight sist. Dude was like,

1062
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: oh dude, imagine dude, the fucking poor story fucking subscribe

1063
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: to only fans and you're sure, I totally get that part.

1064
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: It was just funny because I was so taken out

1065
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: by him calling it her cunt all the time that

1066
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: it felt it felt.

1067
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: It felt like insulting.

1068
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my, yeah, because it's in his head

1069
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: he's like her cunt, and I'm like yeah. I was like,

1070
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: I was like, relax, like she's beautiful and that's but

1071
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: that was the thing.

1072
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what the fun you're

1073
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: about today.

1074
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm not the writer, all right, surprise me.

1075
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. Figure it out though.

1076
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: We need something new though flivering love pudding.

1077
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I tell you the full flower.

1078
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: I haven't texted Jack what I say. I said, uh

1079
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: what I right here?

1080
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 9: I put Uhlan keeps calling it a cunt, and I said,

1081
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 9: just like offensive to my sensibilities, I'm such a fucking fruit.

1082
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: You main this book is that it's.

1083
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: Like that you said it something about you calling.

1084
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: It well, yeah, that was that was more as my

1085
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: just texting static doesn't as possible, but like I think

1086
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: it is.

1087
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: No.

1088
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: I think I was gonna talked about it earlier. I

1089
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: was like, I'm pretty sure he keeps the word cunt,

1090
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: because Miles was behind me and he was like, this

1091
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: isn't really that smutty.

1092
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: But I think that was because.

1093
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: You're so like your idea or you're socialized to a

1094
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: certain extent through pornography and you hear the performers and

1095
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: I use the word pussy or something like that. Yeah,

1096
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 2: and so that's for a man, Yeah, no exactly.

1097
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: And I totally.

1098
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: I totally understand that. So like, and again I'm saying

1099
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: that's from my hunt, okay, and I get that. I'm like,

1100
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Speaker 2: and this book is not for me, but that's what

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Speaker 2: it was. Just it. I think I just had this

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Speaker 2: moment where it's struggling, like, I you've because pornography, You've

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Speaker 2: never heard a male performer refer to it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's all based on this very pornography.

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Speaker 4: Has this changed things with you and your wife? Is

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Speaker 4: this given you guys? Like a different peak? Like a

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Speaker 4: peek into the female psyche?

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Speaker 2: I I asked my wife her majesty, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: does it do anything for you?

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Speaker 3: Like calling it a cunt? And she was like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are you gonna call it?

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Speaker 4: She's like magical, fairy orifice. She doesn't want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but she but she's but I mean

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Speaker 2: she reads all, she loves all matters of y a

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Speaker 2: romance and things like that.

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't like uh, she was just more like,

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Speaker 3: what's what's are you? Are you for real? Like there's

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Speaker 3: more things like it that's your hung up on that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing something that's really surprising to a

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Speaker 4: lot of people. But I think maybe men in general,

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Speaker 4: is that some of these books Briyeah, I'm thinking of

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Speaker 4: like the dark romances, Like some of these books get

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Speaker 4: get beyond disrespectful, they almost get like fucked up.

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Speaker 3: Oh really to the point where like with the descriptors

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Speaker 3: or the action.

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Speaker 4: Both to the point where like something like they're one

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Speaker 4: of the there's a very we even covered in an

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Speaker 4: art show. But there's a very famous book called Haunting

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Speaker 4: Adeline about like a stalker and it like romanticizes this

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Speaker 4: man who's stalking her and has like magical powers where

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Speaker 4: he can like manipulate her with his mind. And like, again,

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Speaker 4: these books, hundreds of thousands of people are reading them, right,

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Speaker 4: So I think there's definitely a really interesting conversation to

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Speaker 4: be had that like I feel like these women are

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Speaker 4: like some of these readers are enjoying reading about these

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00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: I guess disrespectful things and like a very controlled.

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Speaker 3: No danger.

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Speaker 4: So but some of the I mean, we read that

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Speaker 4: book that I was discussing earlier, Her Soul to take,

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Speaker 4: Like there's a scene where the she it's a woman

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00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: and a demon and the demon like pierces her nipples

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00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: while like banging her with a dildo and it's like

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00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 4: very gory, and some of the stuff is like he

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Speaker 4: wants to possess her and literally own her soul.

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Speaker 1: So that's one not to try, right, you're saying, I

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Speaker 1: actually liked it.

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Speaker 4: I did skip the piercing part because I was a

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Speaker 4: little nuts for baby. But it's very interesting that you

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Speaker 4: note that, because you would think that using the word

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Speaker 4: cunt would be very disrespectful and somebody would be like, oh,

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00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: too much for me, But in the world of these books,

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Speaker 4: that's actually.

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Speaker 2: Like exactly no, that's admittedly from from my like male

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Speaker 2: informed perspective society to.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the community, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm just like, wow, this is,

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Speaker 2: this is, this is I'm okay, let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is yeah. I mean that's something like if there,

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Speaker 1: if we do have like younger but not like two

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00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: young listeners out there, I would just say, like a

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Speaker 1: thing that I was glad that I learned when I

1163
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: was a teenager was that like all the ship that

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Speaker 1: we talked about about, like morality and like what you

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00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: can get away with in movies, like books can get

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Speaker 1: away with fucking anything, Like there's and that's why they

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00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: should be banned, but like they really can't, like they're

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Speaker 1: you know, the the movies have to really tone down

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00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: a lot of this ship that happens a book. So yeah, yeah,

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00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good place to go find the

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Speaker 1: wildest ship, the most challenging shit.

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Speaker 4: Although I think it's good for teen boys to read

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Speaker 4: these books to kind of get that other perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we overporn one hundred times out of one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because like I think you were saying too

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Speaker 2: when you were on the our regular show when we

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Speaker 2: first had you on, talking about like this the concept

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Speaker 2: of a lot of these men were like dudes who

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Speaker 2: like weren't fucking dirty and like had sheets on their

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Speaker 2: fucking beds and were like respectful.

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Speaker 3: You do you can under.

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Speaker 4: Seeing a lot of you know, cookie scented lotion.

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00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: They're very shift it's got showers every morning and usually

1184
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: Jack in the shower, but.

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00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got at he's got a shower.

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00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: You're ambiently fed like the male dominated version of like

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00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: what is sexy or not, like just through media and

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00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: things like that.

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Speaker 3: So like yet to have a taste from this, you.

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Speaker 2: Go like, oh, like they don't think that ship's hot,

1191
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: where like I sink and ship.

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00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: Like, oh damn.

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00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: This guy is like sensitive and he's like listening to

1194
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: her and it's making her so horny.

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00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: And he's calling it her cunt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, let me see your one take not the stivity.

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Speaker 1: Well, Mallory Bria, is such a pleasure having you on.

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Speaker 1: Uh this this has been the most enlightening, horny Christmas

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Speaker 1: episode that we've had, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you, hear you all

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00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: that good stuff?

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Speaker 4: You find us on Instagram, reading podcast, We're on all

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00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: podcast platforms. Yeah, I don't don't share it with your children,

1205
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 4: but please listen to the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I listened to this book. I would go into

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Speaker 1: a separate room, I would turn the lights out.

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Speaker 6: Is always an experience for these books. You have to

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Speaker 6: be careful where you are.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: On the car when we got in the car.

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Speaker 3: Easy.

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Speaker 1: Easy.

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Speaker 4: Your neighbors is like watering their flowers looking over it.

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00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: You like, yeah, you're just like rubbing your chin.

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00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: And Jack really appreciates all types of literature.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's vorous. You know, thanks again for doing it.

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Speaker 1: It's such a pleasure of having you and looking forward

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Speaker 1: to having you back on The Daily Guys anytime, listeners,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back soon.

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Speaker 3: With't be too horny. Now, don't be too horny. It

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Speaker 3: is the birth of Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a Santo way now now, children, all right,

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Speaker 1: have a good one, Happy holidays. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: more holiday content.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Law,

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Speaker 2: co produced by Bae.

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