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Speaker 1: Oh h Hi, Claire, Hi, how are you? Oh God,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. You know, just just reading this new script

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Speaker 2: I just you're so good on stage. I'm such an idiot.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, Like, please hate me. I totally forgot

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Speaker 2: Hudson's gunned monkey stuffed animal.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he Sallykins.

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Speaker 2: I'm so I know he loved I'm so.

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Speaker 1: Love that monkey. He freaks out of you think get in.

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Speaker 1: And if I was a better mother, of course I

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Speaker 1: and you're amazing, and I really appreciate it, Claire, you're.

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Speaker 2: Doing so much. So I was just on my way

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Speaker 2: to actually go see Billy is directing Uncle Vanya Playwrights Horizons,

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Speaker 2: and I was just bringing some Magnolia cupcakes. Just the

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Speaker 1: Well, aren't you a saint?

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Speaker 2: Oh please, I'm a mess.

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Speaker 1: I did an Uncle Vanya once in modern dress in

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Speaker 2: I would love to do theater in San Francisco. I

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Speaker 2: mean your theater. It's it's so amazing. But sometimes to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you think you hit the nail on the

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Speaker 1: head there, Claire, But I keep telling you myself, none

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Speaker 1: of it fucking matters, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I'm flying to New Orleans for

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Speaker 1: Or are you working with Mike Lee again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna be me, Tucci, LAURELINI Ruffalo, love

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Speaker 2: those guys. Yeah, I don't know if the script's not

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Speaker 1: Tell Mark I still have his beret. He'll know what

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Speaker 2: I leave tomorrow, but if you need anything, I can

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Speaker 2: drop by later. I just just wanted Hutson to have

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Speaker 2: the guns.

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Speaker 1: Get from there.

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Speaker 2: Remember bananas. Okay, you watched this show. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 2: seen a million times and it's been driving me crazy.

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Speaker 2: But it's the banana songs in my head. Bananas, bananas.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to limit screen time, but it's a

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Speaker 1: fucking crap shoot.

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Speaker 2: So it's impossible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, thanks, Claire.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll probably see you next week. Yeah, yeah, the premiere. Okay,

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Speaker 2: happy thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Me peace be with you. Who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 1: It's all your friends, you filthy whorse. Your husband's gone

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Speaker 1: and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 3: It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's memoir. It's Martini. Celebtly book Club Read

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Speaker 1: it while it's hot.

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Speaker 2: Celevety Poop Club. Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 1: No boys are a loud Celety book Club say it

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Speaker 1: loud and pound Celevetly book Club.

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Speaker 3: Buzz me in.

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Speaker 2: I brought the queer foe. Hey Ben friend, Happy February,

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Speaker 2: Happy fed but you warry? Thank God? What twenty nine days?

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Speaker 2: Thirty days?

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Speaker 1: I know? I'm sorry? Can every month be this short?

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Speaker 2: Seriously?

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Speaker 1: Sorry?

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Speaker 2: Why is February the Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Sorry? February is the Tuesday? I can't explain it. Donut mean.

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Speaker 1: Sorry. I actually heard that Jupiter is like in the

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you hear this from I heard a rumor

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Speaker 1: I had a tarot reading from a friend from like

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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, why don't you take your dumb ass.

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Speaker 2: so this is the death magistress. But that actually means

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Speaker 2: sweater do our last recording?

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Speaker 1: Okay, actually stop giving them a peek behind the curtain, bitch,

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Speaker 2: No, it's not very shouldery.

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Speaker 1: Your clothes, Yes, wear your clothes, yes, hashtag wear your clothes.

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Speaker 2: And then now I can fondly think back when I

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Speaker 2: that was Stephen's recording. Sweater, yes, him and his recording sweater.

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Speaker 2: It's so thirty nine to forty four.

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Speaker 2: think of her as an indie actress, but she's kind

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Speaker 1: She is good in mainstream, but I think made people

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Speaker 2: Because that's all we fucking care about, right television.

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Speaker 1: Whatever happened to plays? And she is a gay icon.

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Speaker 2: None other than Mary Mary Louise Parker and.

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Speaker 1: Her book Dear Mister U.

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Speaker 2: And it's a literary work.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's very literary. It's sort of like historical fiction

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Speaker 1: It's all letters, yeah, and it's letters to men that

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Speaker 1: have affected her throughout her life. They're mostly anonymous. You

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Speaker 2: It's also like such an actor's book because it feels

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Speaker 1: deconstructing masculinity as it has affected her throughout her career

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Speaker 1: open most jars. To you who codifies slams a puck,

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Speaker 1: builds a decent cabinet or the perfect sandwich. To you

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the kaleidoscope, the get well tequila, the painting,

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Speaker 2: My relationship with Mary Louise was kind of mostly Fried

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Speaker 2: Have you never seen it?

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Speaker 2: Green Tomatoes and they're quote unquote best friends.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So it's an iconic lesbian film, like If these

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Speaker 1: Balls could Talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it never like shows them hooking up because

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Speaker 2: Kathy Bates is like her granddaughter and she's like discovering stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and it's about like black flashbacks. Yeah, that's cool

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Speaker 2: So I feel like it's like you were connected through

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't even into weed, as you know, in

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Speaker 2: You were like, we'd bad she boss good.

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Speaker 1: Reminds me of backlist sex. Yeah. Who we love who

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Speaker 2: Literally our favorite writer, And I wonder it's like the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the parallel structure, right, it was parallel boots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to write this whole book that's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: Then it's like her juggling acting teacher who wanted to

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Speaker 1: Interesting even though I made myself everything you wanted me

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Speaker 1: Okay. Then there's this local Yaqui Indian boy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's like on is it like so local

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Speaker 2: Yes, Like some of these are very like this is

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Speaker 2: It's extremely like a white girl like a night which

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Speaker 2: also we would love like a deaf comedy jam white

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like we said I was the only

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Speaker 2: On, Yes, she's the only Blanca girl.

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Speaker 2: she was married to Billy Crudup and they were together

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Speaker 2: for seven years, then once she was pregnant, he left.

443
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Speaker 1: Her for Claire Danes, which you guys may remember from

444
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Speaker 1: the Cold Open at this very episode.

445
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Speaker 2: Which reference and then it's like, I feel like he

446
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Speaker 2: was with Claire Danes for like.

447
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Speaker 1: Eight years and now he's not with.

448
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Speaker 2: Her, and now he's with Naomi Watts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's so crazy. It's like because they're all so similar.

450
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Speaker 2: I was like, he's going from one shaking woman to

451
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Speaker 2: the next day.

452
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Speaker 1: And they're all so West Village in peak coach.

453
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: And just like actresses who love film but their passion

454
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Speaker 2: is theater.

455
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Speaker 1: Okay, when she talks about the dog like that was

456
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Speaker 1: so that Naomi Wats movie The Friend that we just saw.

457
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Speaker 2: I know, and I think Billy Croudup was there, yes,

458
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Speaker 2: but so is Lee Schreiber. It was like X and

459
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Speaker 2: Current were there.

460
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Speaker 1: Leaf Drivers should just now Dave Mary Louis Parker and

461
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Speaker 1: like kind of start the cycle all over again.

462
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd make it like a full circle.

463
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Speaker 1: I moved into your cage that night. There was plenty

464
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Speaker 1: of floor spaces through my routines, which delighted you. I

465
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Speaker 1: discovered I had a gift for making you laugh. Sometimes

466
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Speaker 1: the antics worked on the street, and that was the best.

467
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: You'd throw your head beck in hysteria, Pully close kissing

468
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Speaker 1: my forehead. Oh wait, this was about a boyfriend who

469
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Speaker 1: is like three headed.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like this monster of all boyfriends, right right, right,

471
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Speaker 2: right right. But then okay, so I would say, like

472
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Speaker 2: when it gets to real passion, she's talking about this

473
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Speaker 2: boyfriend who she calls Popeye and oh.

474
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Speaker 1: Wait, this was the pussy gauntlets.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like this guy who comes over for

476
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Speaker 2: a fuck fest. As she calls it. I mean, this

477
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: seems crazy and it's insane, and he's like.

478
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Speaker 1: Read it, got out the towel.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready for this?

480
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Speaker 1: So he is handl it?

481
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Speaker 2: Can I handle it? Sorry, I'm trembling. The floor is

482
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Speaker 2: soaked at I heart. Dear Papa, you bolted from work

483
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: that morning and took a cab sixty blocks for a

484
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Speaker 2: fuck our lights out festival. You busted and took me

485
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Speaker 2: from dreams by throwing your backpack on my floor and

486
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: then throwing down the pussy gauntlet. I roused and rallied

487
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: and smiled, and you tossed me across the bed. You

488
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Speaker 2: could have had me fine in the direction I was facing,

489
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Speaker 2: but it was a morning that needed a bodily, happily

490
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: pitched across a duvet with a guttural mm A morning

491
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: that begged for bodice ripping and hair pulling and whispering

492
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Speaker 2: and taking off and taking me away. Okay, I want

493
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Speaker 2: to skip over to if you want to take it

494
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Speaker 2: later on in fifty eight. You want to skip over, no, no,

495
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: no to fifty eight to get the Coca cola part.

496
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Speaker 1: You don't want to read. When I was waking the

497
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Speaker 1: homeless on the streets with my Oh Gods, you slammed

498
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Speaker 1: into neutral at the end of the inn part of

499
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Speaker 1: the next in and out, you pulled fully out of

500
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Speaker 1: me and backed off the bed like I was a

501
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: parking space you were deciding against. After several attempts to nail.

502
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was wrote. That is an Audio de Franco lyric.

503
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the lyric My pussy is like

504
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: a tractor and you're the tractor pull.

505
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Speaker 1: So what's the like corn in that scenario?

506
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Speaker 2: I guess his dick is the corn and the tractor poll.

507
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Speaker 1: Okay, sounds violent.

508
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: Mangled, Okay. Later on, at which point I heard what

509
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: you opening my fridge looking for something in a drawer

510
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: Emodium Brian song on VHS. But then I heard a

511
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Speaker 2: pop and a fizz. You appeared again, Renaissance fair stud

512
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: with your cock in one hand, not because it needed reminders,

513
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: because you wanted in that hand, while the other hand

514
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: gripped a bottle of coke classic, the old school kind,

515
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: which doesn't it taste so much better?

516
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: Like that? Of course she's just being like retro.

517
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: She's a little bit like, sorry, why does cocon a

518
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: bottle taste so much?

519
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: And I'm imagining that it is like this kind of

520
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Speaker 1: like like an old fridge that's like a little bit

521
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Speaker 1: curved on the side, you know what I mean.

522
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Speaker 2: This book takes place in the East Village, yes, and

523
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Speaker 2: it's white and it's dirty, but it's a big metal Well.

524
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Speaker 1: Actually that's kind of true because this is the most

525
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Speaker 1: East Village seen and like her stalking the fridge with

526
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Speaker 1: like classic coke, even though I could imagine like East

527
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Speaker 1: murray Hill, Well, I was just gonna say, I could

528
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Speaker 1: imagine West Village girls like today having a specialty fridge

529
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: that's just old coke. It's so well, yes, that's very

530
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: like from tom yeh, can't you mention like liv Tyler

531
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Speaker 1: or just like what's his name? The faggot Neil Patrick Harris.

532
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Speaker 2: Oh, and he has been like this is our retro

533
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: diet coke. Reading this book, I was like, this is

534
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: such a woman. I would clean for twice where.

535
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: We're going to go with someone else.

536
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'd be like the first time, like I would

537
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: show up and she would probably be like so frazzled

538
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: and be West Village and she would thank me so much,

539
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: and she'd be like, oh my god, it's a mess

540
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: in here, and it wouldn't be that much of a mess,

541
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: and she'd be like, can you please do with the

542
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: inside of the fridge, And then I would and she'd

543
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: come back and she'd give me forty dollars and be like,

544
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: you have to come back. You saved my life, and

545
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: like she would confess something to me that she wished

546
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: she could confess to her friends, but it's more fun

547
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 2: to confess it to her weird maid. Yeah, And then

548
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: I would come back the next time that I.

549
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Would seize you because she's weird girl, and.

550
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: She'd be like, oh wait, we're both weird girls. And

551
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: then I would kind of maybe come back the second time,

552
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 2: but I would arrange her olaplex the wrong way in

553
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: the shower and she would be like, just next time,

554
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: can you not put things back in the wrong way?

555
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: And then I'd come back the third time and it

556
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: would just be like she wouldn't be there because the

557
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: second time you came in and she was just like, oh, like,

558
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: do you want a tea or something.

559
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: She's like trying to chill.

560
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: Down, chill down, just like I don't know what I have,

561
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: but I have tea.

562
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: She is this mannic Pixie dream gen X. The part

563
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: where she's talking about this like kind of like guy

564
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: who has a van, and the whole chapter is to

565
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: this guy who has a van who's like random, and

566
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: she says, who like invented burning Man? She goes, you

567
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: took anyone's idea of modern life and set it on fire.

568
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Decades before anyone dreamed up burning Man. You didn't need

569
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: to rent an RV with Wi Fi and talk about

570
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: whole foods to drive somewhere and let the mad men

571
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: into your third eye. You found it and let it

572
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: all in and out again and had it going on.

573
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Speaker 2: M No, that chapter to me was the most like

574
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: m This one definitely isn't true where she's like talking

575
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: about her like trans man coworker.

576
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: Wait, is this in that same chapter? Yeah, in Dear Blue.

577
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: In Dear Blue one second, I have the page forty one.

578
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: This to me is very like a straight girl. That's

579
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: like I would totally date you if I was gay.

580
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: Some days, joining me at the scale was a sweet

581
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: and sullen transgender boy named Lux who wasn't but much

582
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: better than I was. We got in trouble for throwing

583
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: a block of guda up at the ceiling fan to

584
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: see if it had come down in chunks, so they

585
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: separated us, fucking wreaking havoc of our coalk. They had

586
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: one of us bag well, the other one stock dry,

587
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: which meant standing in the refrigerator and plenishing all the

588
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: yogurt and keefer and freezing our asses off. I found

589
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: the scale confusing. Was never good at mad a gun.

590
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: That's just like, sorry, I'm a girl, I'm number stupid.

591
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it definitely reminded me when I worked at

592
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: Dimes Market and my friend who was my manager, was like,

593
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: you were ringing up things that we hadn't sold in years.

594
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: You were like so bad at the like pos system.

595
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like when something like if it was let's

596
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: say a bulk item didn't show up, I would just

597
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: be like, well, let's just choose something else, like who cares?

598
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: Like period dates, whatever, I'll choose like rab B Marrigolds,

599
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: like who cares?

600
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, no reason to alert the authorities every time the

601
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: beat are dimes police. Yeah, it's just fucking buttons on

602
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: a screen.

603
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: As a fun tipped up No, I'm not meant for

604
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: the market.

605
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Speaker 1: Okay. When she goes, Nalie and I would combine all

606
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: our wash to save money, and we'd dance on top

607
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: of the machines with some mild flashing of body pots

608
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: to passos buy if we'd drink a few bews.

609
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: No sorry, literally indie movie were girls laundry.

610
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: And dance on top of machines and like accidentally flash

611
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: a tit at a creepy old man in the street.

612
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, take a picture at hey.

613
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: Look at it. You want to suck it. She's just

614
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: like my nipple freak, No, come in. And then she

615
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: takes it a little too far and her friend is

616
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: actually like sketched, and then she like does look up

617
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: with the guy and she's like, what are you doing this?

618
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: It is weird. So then she does like moves.

619
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: Into gigas fabulous. It's like childhood daddy wore vans, bad

620
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: jobs cock and then it's like, dear mister miss.

621
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Speaker 1: Thing, Miss Thing, she's so just like meeting miss Jay

622
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: like on the street by Chateau marmont Uh, dear miss girl.

623
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: We bombed in about five minutes over lemonade and fries

624
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: to the Chateau marmont Our shared devotion to skinningcare was

625
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: only the cherry, just like her, literally talking about wizzredzer

626
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: once no, and she's.

627
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, you're my sister.

628
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: Well he miss p town ha. Miss can't find me

629
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Speaker 1: a place to park in front of the sunset, Marquee,

630
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: miss woman, you always greet me with the bright face on,

631
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: even when one of us is a tad suicidal. We

632
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: managed to laugh about something.

633
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: To hear a girl discover that there are gay guys.

634
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: It's really beautiful.

635
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: But here's the thing is, it's like she's not actually

636
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: a hag. She's like too chaotic and thin to be

637
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: a real hag, so she doesn't have the like sturdiness

638
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: to support gays and like have that like repository of memories.

639
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Well, which is actually actually kind of so glad you

640
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: said that. I think we just hit up why she's

641
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: actually a gay icon. Yes, it's because she's not a hag. Okay,

642
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: well sorry, we just self robes. It's like gay guys

643
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: love her, but it's like she's not being like a

644
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: stride is. And you know, it's like she's this like

645
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: dark girl that they can be like, oh girl, yeah.

646
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: No, and she's flouncy and freaky.

647
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: I will say something freak with them, but like she

648
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: doesn't need to depend on them for her only moisturizer conversation.

649
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: No, she doesn't need gay guy. It's but like she

650
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: obviously preaches them and has seen so many dibades and

651
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: loves that.

652
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Yes, and she has like a gay mentor, like who's

653
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: being like, oh, honey, I had so many boyfriends you

654
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: would have loved And she's been like, oh, I'm sure

655
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: I would have loved your dead gay friends. Okay. Did

656
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: you think it's in her chapter Emergency Contact where she

657
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Speaker 2: talks about this person who owns like clearly a fabulous store,

658
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: comes and like helps her in the hospital. But I

659
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: couldn't tell if it was like a fabulous old woman

660
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: Patricia Field style or if it was a gay guy.

661
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: I think because basically, like the story is like she's

662
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: in the hospital and it's like it's probably because she's

663
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: like dehydrated and like has kidney stones or like some

664
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: just like overworked, like girl proable.

665
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: You have on light flannel trousers and a perfect white

666
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: shirt even for a fashion designer. You look sharp.

667
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: Sounds gay guy that also could be old woman in.

668
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Like perfect Yeah. Is it like Betsy Johnson or like

669
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: Lazaro Hernandez because.

670
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: She's like, I came into your store when I was

671
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: fucking nothing and you still dressed me. She's like I

672
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: were spending woman who's like smoking a cigarette being like

673
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: have you heard of Elsa's ship Arelly?

674
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think it's just like Tory Burn it's

675
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: Kate Spade, honestly, maybe it like is Kate Spade? Yeah,

676
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: because she is kind of like girly. Her style is

677
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: very like little like pillbox.

678
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: Dressed, like yeah, it's like big fur coat that she's

679
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: like drowning.

680
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is kind of Kate's Pade. She's very Kate

681
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Spape back to me.

682
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: And what's nice about this This is kind of fantasy

683
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: fiction for us because it makes the reader, yes, yes,

684
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: who she's talking about.

685
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: I love that ambiguity.

686
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: And being like, is this about your next husband?

687
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the like rocker that she is obsessed with

688
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: who like plays harmonica, And it's not Bob Dylan, and

689
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: it's kind of unclear who it is, and like she's like,

690
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: you weren't the Beatles, Like you were so cool and

691
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe that one time you let me on

692
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: stage like near your bongos, And I'm like, is it

693
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: just like Mick Jagger or is it someone like way

694
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: less famous, or is it.

695
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: Just so like the bassist of Blues Traveler, Yeah, or

696
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: like Adam Duritz.

697
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Adam. I think it's someone from

698
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: before him, Eric Clapton. Maybe it's Eric Clampton.

699
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: He sounds mouthy though, because there's this part where like

700
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: they're in a fight. She's in a play and he's

701
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: reading the bad review to her, because years after that,

702
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: on the day the play I was doing was met

703
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: with a widespread hatred. You chased me around your hotel

704
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: room in a robe, reading a scathing review a loud

705
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: while I held my hands over my ears. Let's demystify it,

706
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: you shouted, it's better to hear it. This guy hates

707
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: you so much. It's almost funny. Later, while I sat

708
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: crying on the couch, you recounted the meanest attacks on

709
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: your own work just to make me feel better. I

710
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: almost got married to someone in your living room, and

711
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: then I did it a few days after that. It's like, yeah,

712
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: an older man where it's like she would get married

713
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 2: to someone in his living room.

714
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: But has also like fucked him.

715
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Because I heard the rumor that the Chill Crow song

716
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: my favorite.

717
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: Mistake is about Eric Clampton. Yeah, okay, Yeah, she's a

718
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: different vibe than Mary Louise Parker for sure, if you're Eric,

719
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: but I could.

720
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a man naning. It's not like they're

721
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: so different that he's like yeah, but it's like Sheryl's

722
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: western hippie chick and Mary Louise's theater indie journal girl.

723
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're both like Southern Gothic in their own way.

724
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: Yes, with wavy hair.

725
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: Okay. I want to talk about the last chapter, which

726
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: was so devastating. So this book, obviously it's all about men,

727
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: and kind of the undercurrent is like who is the

728
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, the the first and last, your last man

729
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: in your life, the primordial man, the er man of

730
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: every dark girl's life as her father, and it's about

731
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: her father dying and how he loved oysters and she

732
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: like gets oysters for him, like right before he dies,

733
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: and so the letter is to this oyster picker who

734
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: got the oysters. And the cover of the book is

735
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: actually a photo of an oyster with dear mister ew

736
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: and Corey were font on top of the oyster. And

737
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: when I saw that, I was like, oh, it must

738
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: be like about desire and neuroticism, because it's an aphrodisiac.

739
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: But it's actually about this moment about her dad.

740
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: Okay, but wouldn't you say those two are utterly connected

741
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: up solutly the erotic of the imprint. It's the first

742
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: man you see love someone or not love someone.

743
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the death of the father is in

744
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: many ways like the most anything that can happen to you,

745
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: because it.

746
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: Was the horniest day of my life. I'll tell you

747
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: that seeing his body under a painting of the Revolutionary War,

748
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: a conquered funeral home soaked we have to laugh about.

749
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: So I cried on the train. And of course I

750
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: finished this book a much earlier, but I was reading

751
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: the last chapter on the train over over absolutely absolutely,

752
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: And I mean it's just so inch in the way

753
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: she know, it's like the way we like idolize daddy,

754
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: and you know, it's like she sees all these things

755
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: of like how you know, the war and how he

756
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: would buy her mom, you know, Valentine's Day presence months

757
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: before Valentine's Day, but then later on it's like the

758
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: pain of this man who like couldn't provide the way

759
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: he wanted to.

760
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just all the little like you know, indignities

761
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: of that moment and the dad kind of trying to

762
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: hold it together and being sweet and like all the

763
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: little things he says, as you know, he's trying to

764
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: be grateful to his daughters, and every little moment is

765
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: just so heartbreaking. And she is quite poetic about it.

766
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: She talks about the first time the sister has to

767
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: refer to the done in the past tense. She tried

768
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: to complete a sentence that began with he was, but

769
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: could not and didn't have to. Her inability to finish

770
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: that sentence and the flush that filled her face as

771
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: she looked for words worthy of him, were enough to

772
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: finish it. For the men who understood. One of them

773
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: reached touch her arm My brother shook their hands after

774
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: they looked at his picture, whispering acknowledgments to us that

775
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: they would remember his face and thanking us for letting

776
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: them see it. They were full of grace. She's like

777
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: talking about the pall bearers.

778
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: It's like ugh, but then it was so sad right

779
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: before that, when the dad gets carried away and her

780
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: sister reaches for her and she pushes her sister away.

781
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's this sisterly thing because she also says like, yeah,

782
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: my sister's the pretty one, which like the sisterly rivalries me,

783
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean obviously like siblings are always fighting one apparent dies. Yes,

784
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: But she's also so actress in the fact that she's

785
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: like pretending like she thinks her sister's the pretty one,

786
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: like to be like humble, but like I'm sure and

787
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: at some deep levels she actually thinks that she's the

788
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: pretty one.

789
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I feel like it is very like an actress

790
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: thing to be so like I don't know, I was

791
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: the one who got sees and wasn't pretty at all.

792
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: I mean, my sister though she's beautiful, and she's referencing

793
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: like her sister who's like a social worker who lives

794
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: in like Charleston. She's like, she's so.

795
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: Beautiful, but of course he down. She think you're like,

796
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: thank god, I'm not that boring bitch.

797
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: Stuck in Charleston. Finally, Insurance claims her smile was so

798
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: beautiful though, and then right before that chapter is a

799
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: letter to her daughter's future boyfriend.

800
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean she's being psycho in that right.

801
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: Go Boots, where she's almost like horny for the daughter's

802
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: future boyfriend.

803
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too much, Okay. The ending actually really reminded

804
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: me of Nora Efron's book at the very end when

805
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: she's talking about buying bathoil and like this kind of

806
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: meant to art and pleasure. At the very end is

807
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: you know, I think quite apropos for an artist, and

808
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: it's clarifying what really matters. I will tell you now,

809
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: Oyster Picker. The night after he had your oysters, he

810
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: stopped speaking. Everyone went to sleep except me, and I

811
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: sat next to him holding his hand. The last thing

812
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: he said to me was squeeze my hand, please. I

813
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: held it into the last breath flew out, and he

814
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: went wherever it was he'd found, where he wouldn't be

815
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: scared or lonely for us, where he would continue on

816
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: with the things you and I don't know about yet. Then,

817
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: because he was the wizard of all fathers, he asked

818
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: me what I was doing, like that should have mattered.

819
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: I said, well, okay, I'm saying in this really awesome bookstore.

820
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: You'd love it, I said. He gave a sigh of

821
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: longing and said, oh my, tell me, do they have

822
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: anything interesting? I said, yeah, tons, I'll send you a

823
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: book from here. How does that sound? He said, that's wonderful,

824
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: that's just tremendous. Thank you, Sweetie. Told him I was

825
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: sending him some candy too, and he thanked me, said

826
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: he'd be on the lookout for And then he said,

827
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: tell me, what are you writing now? You work on anything? Said, oh, Daddy,

828
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: just little things I don't know. And he said, okay,

829
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: well listen to me right, keep writing. Promise me that

830
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: you will. And that's the book Stunning right.

831
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Where Louise and she kept writing little things.

832
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: Little things, And I turned into this book. It's like

833
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful tribute.

834
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: I wonder what her sister thinks of this last paragraph. Hmmm,

835
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: because it's so like Doddy held onto.

836
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: My hand right, Daddy held in my hand. Daddy told

837
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: me to write, and look, I wrote this beautiful book.

838
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: And what did you do?

839
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: What did you do? You did so much?

840
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did so much. You're a nursing administrator.

841
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: But remind me because then in this chapter before she

842
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: makes it like all about like brothers and sisters. So

843
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: I found it a beautiful actually owed to siblings, even

844
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: though as corny as it is. And like the chapter

845
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: before where she's been like, promise me to like fight

846
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: with my daughter and make her almost leave you, but

847
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: then treat her like the queen she.

848
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: And also promised him make my daughter jealous of your

849
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: relationship with her uncles.

850
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: Was like, what the hell? It was like it was like,

851
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: be so fucking close to her with her brother and

852
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: her uncles.

853
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: She actually sketched out.

854
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: Except she's so happy because you have such a close

855
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: relationship with them and invite her brother over whenever.

856
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was.

857
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, that is cool because.

858
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: It's just like she doesn't want the sibling.

859
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: Your siblings are your teammates in life.

860
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: Yes, no, and blood is the tie that binds and

861
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: they are still there few no.

862
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 2: Matter what to quote My favorite mean page hard core Italians.

863
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: If you folk my family, I grab a shovele.

864
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: That's so poignant. Thank you.

865
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: I know, dear mister s how do live?

866
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: What does she wear?

867
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: What does she eat?

868
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: Does she eat like not much honey, just picking I

869
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: mean oysters, carrot salad. Yeah, she's very Russian.

870
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: Doing like meals for the week on Sunday.

871
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: No.

872
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: I think she sometimes is like I'm gonna roast a

873
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: chicken every Sunday.

874
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: And it's a little chaotic, and she's not putting until nine.

875
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: She's me Yeah, she's eating at midnight and then she

876
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: has no way. I think she likes pickled beets. I

877
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: think she loves like a beat goat cheese salad.

878
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: Her pists sounds purple as fuck.

879
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: And I think she does do like a beautiful roast chicken.

880
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't think she's doing like four salmon's and like

881
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: chicken meatballs and it's like no. But I think she

882
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: loves Greek food.

883
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Is she going out a lot? Is so any cohen

884
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: and going away really in? Or is she more like

885
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: ordering sushi after she really gets to make dinner.

886
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: I guess like with the kids, she probably was actually

887
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: making them like so many like healthy salmon.

888
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: Wraps and they're taking salmon to school.

889
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: No, I mean at dinner, like but the Annie a

890
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: stalk for the kids.

891
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: Maybe she's more like johenn Ackson, you think. And she

892
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: is just making peel off and she's making rice and.

893
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: Like and it's very near East's.

894
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Near East, like couscous in near East Surfries.

895
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, what.

896
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: If she wears we discussed she's like girly, so I

897
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: feel like she likes kind of fifty silhouettes and like

898
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: poodle skirts and like poodle skirts and like little handbags.

899
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: I think it's like fifties sixties, like it evokes Jackie Oh,

900
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: and it's like little slips and like beautiful, more like

901
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: evoking the twenties, these like silk dresses and like little bags.

902
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going full poodle skirt, I

903
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: mean that like puff out.

904
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't actually know what a poodleskirt means. I feel

905
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: like it's a silk skirt that is like structured, almost

906
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: like a peplum.

907
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: Poodle skirts were like tight on top and then very

908
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: structured went out and had like cleats. Yeah, and has

909
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: then embroidered poodles on them.

910
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: Sure, they don't have to.

911
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: I think it's more like ninety slip.

912
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: And I don't think she's talking. I don't think she's so.

913
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: I feel like she's more in these fifty silhouettes that

914
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: are like more Ballerina where the skirt's going out.

915
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: I disagree, but we can kind of fact check that

916
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: on when we go through her like red carpet vibes.

917
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: I also think it's more she has like so many

918
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: beautiful bags and like beautiful bracelets, and like such nice

919
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: cashmere sweaters, like huge Kashmir sweaters.

920
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: I just got some piping hot tea from someone who

921
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: is friends with someone who was her assistant, okay, and

922
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: said she's an odd bird, but very sweet and pretty

923
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: devoted to her kids.

924
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so she is making like so much Peeloff and

925
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: Sam And.

926
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: That's keelof to me, that comment I just received, screams Peelof.

927
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: She loves the kids, absolutely, Yeah, but when the Knights,

928
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: when Claire has them, oh hell break slips. Yeah, it's

929
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: Waverley and Mama. But I also see her like being

930
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna cook for myself alone, and it's a

931
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: beautiful gloss of pino noir.

932
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, glass of wine, and then her friend's

933
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: being just like, Okay, you need to go with this guy.

934
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: He's a playwright. I know, no more playwrights, you told me.

935
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: But I think I'm just focusing on me and my writing. Yeah,

936
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: how does she live now? I think it is Even

937
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: though this book is so East Village, I feel like

938
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: she is so West Villinan.

939
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: She's a funky West Village. She's so like, so this

940
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: is a lunchbox that I got in Morocco. I know,

941
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: just bear with me, hold on. And then she's like, uh,

942
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: these are these tiny little German figurines that they used

943
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: to make in the c and like people think they're creepy.

944
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're beautiful. I'm weird.

945
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little Dutch paintings of like a weird baby.

946
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's pretty Carrie Fisher.

947
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not as like, not as novelty.

948
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little less like comedic.

949
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: I think there's like some gorgeous like velvet she lounges

950
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: around where she's like flopping down to rediscuss.

951
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: That that gets into that she's just more girly, and

952
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: so I think that she has this whole thing where

953
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: she's like, sorry, it's my little corner of Paris. Paris.

954
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: Yes, vanity table, old mirrors.

955
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Yes, mother of Peril.

956
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: The kitchen is dark tones. I almost think it's a

957
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: Greens and Navies.

958
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: And I think there's like some like colored glass doorknobs.

959
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: Hard to find a TV in that house.

960
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: But when you find it.

961
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: It's there, and it's cozy as fuck.

962
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: Yes, it's surrounded like books and fabric.

963
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: And I think the bed is high in.

964
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: A princess way. Yes, And there's like a little Villavet

965
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: footstool to get onto the bed.

966
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: Because so many like men when they come over, they're

967
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: like tossing her around, and the bed needs to be

968
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: sturdy for like a sixty four year old rocker to

969
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: fuck her.

970
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: In the only way we could have it so wrong.

971
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: And she's actually so like coastal California post weeds, and

972
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: like the bed is low, it's all beige. I'm just

973
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: gonna put that out there and say, maybe that's also true,

974
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: but I think it's the first and.

975
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: It's a rental. Both have probably happened in her life.

976
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: She's lived a lot of lifetimes. Yes, who are you

977
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: in the book? I think you you're NASA.

978
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, NASA, Thank you NASA.

979
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: I didn't believe in you, but now I do.

980
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like, I mean, I identify with her

981
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: and the Popeye see just being like, fuck this howt

982
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: guy is getting a coke turned on. I'm so turned

983
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: on by these like little moments of like casual masculinity

984
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: in the midst of my deflowering it.

985
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: Also, I mean it feels very ute just in general,

986
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: like write poetry to like someone random, someone random, Like Okay,

987
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: the chapter where we didn't even talk about where she

988
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: meets this guy that's like very put together and is

989
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: dying and they have this connection and she's like, we're

990
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: already soul mates. I knew it in two minutes. Yeah,

991
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: it feels kind of you.

992
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I do feel like you're kind of like

993
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: in that scene with the ex boyfriend when they're kind

994
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: of fighting and he's just been like I want Mexican

995
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: and then we going bacon like yes, very you.

996
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because that's also very mean to like I

997
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: feel like be in a fight with a lover and

998
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: not realize it's because I'm actually starving.

999
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I put my hand on your back and

1000
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 1: said sorry, babe, I know you're starving, you said, voice

1001
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: cracking from the memory that you'd only had half a

1002
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: pop tart and am still light twenty three hours ago,

1003
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: and now you felt like an outlaw. I said, wow,

1004
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: I said, don't cry. You said, I'm not crying, God

1005
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: damn it. Yeah, that's yeah.

1006
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: But I'm still like, we need to go somewhere iconic.

1007
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: You're goggling eaters, like, what do I get this book?

1008
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: I give this a book?

1009
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: Ah, I loved it.

1010
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm point yeah four five like touching missives to a

1011
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: dead father, four point one vintage bottles of Coca Cola.

1012
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: I think that I love the form. Yes, I love

1013
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: the format and the breaking of form and a non

1014
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: traditional memoir. And I like this sort of like you

1015
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: don't have to call this auto fiction, no, because it's

1016
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: not like a narrative, so it's already like built into

1017
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: the format of like writing these kind of anonymous letters

1018
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: that it doesn't have to be to a real person.

1019
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: No, it's memoir like enough, even though like it's fiction.

1020
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: It's about her and it's about her life, and it's

1021
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 2: about how she feels and how she dates and how

1022
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: she fucks and how she loves.

1023
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: And it's you know, I mean, it's about her emotions

1024
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: and feelings and she's getting at them without having to

1025
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: say this happened.

1026
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: In this happens, you're almost getting more of a real

1027
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: sense of the person. Then let's say, you know, if

1028
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: she wrote a story about like and then I went

1029
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: to tish.

1030
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful, revelatory piece of literature. And I encourage

1031
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: you all, after listening to this episode to head over

1032
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 1: to your laptorp and write a letter to someone.

1033
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Mmmm. It can be to yourself, okay, Chiles, or just

1034
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: someone masculine or not. Yes, you don't have to go

1035
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: to Mary Louise Way.

1036
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: We love you, We.

1037
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: Love you, Keep writing best best.

1038
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: Dear producer Darby Besters, whose lips pulsate with the juices

1039
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: of my peaches. May you for ever taste me on

1040
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: your tongue when you fall asleep next to him.

1041
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 4: Dear supervising producer Abuzaphar, the night had almost snowed and

1042
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: it was may you supervised produced a podcast with me

1043
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: all night long, and we fought and we produced, and

1044
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 4: we fought.

1045
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: I got Mexican, My love.

1046
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: Dear mister executive producer, Christina Everett, I saw you were

1047
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: in the ice cream stand nineteen ninety nine. You gave

1048
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: me a scoop.

1049
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: Dear Engineer Derek Clements. The way you drove that car

1050
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: down the pch made me fear for my life. It

1051
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: made me fear I would never see my dog again.

1052
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: And yet when the windows rolled down, I smelled that

1053
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: beautiful sea foam air. I knew that you were the

1054
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: one who could take me to ecstasy and take me again.

1055
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: And then you took me right there on the side

1056
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: of the road, and triple A never came, but I did.

1057
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: Dear mister Stephen Philip's horst.

1058
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: What is there even to say when one.

1059
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 5: Takes your soul, rips it out, recycles and drops it

1060
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 5: off at beacons, over and over and over again, and

1061
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 5: makes a theme song with a new shirt because you

1062
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 5: think you can. I said you can, and I said,

1063
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: leave your job as a lawyer, make music, make theme songs.

1064
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 5: You shut me out, And then ten years later I

1065
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 5: called you and your wife picked up. She said, he's

1066
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 5: making a theme.

1067
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: Song right now for a podcast.

1068
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: Its prey book, Stephen Lily.

1069
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Dear Prologue projects, or should I say, Daddy, you gave

1070
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: birth to me? Or should I say you dropped your

1071
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: seed off the sea that became who I am today.

1072
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: Dear Daddy. I fucking love you, dear Daddy. I'm sorry

1073
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: for everything you went through. I'm sorry for the war.

1074
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the cries of other podcasts you still

1075
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: hear ringing in your ears. Dear Daddy. All I wanted

1076
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: was for you to love me, to tuck me in,

1077
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: to make me dinner, to fuck me. Dear Daddy, I

1078
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: miss you. I hope I made you proud, Dear Daddy.

1079
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: I hope you still think i'm your pretty little girl.

1080
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: I'll wait for you on the beach like I promise.

1081
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't care how cold it gets. I'll bring a parka,

1082
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: I'll make a fire. I'll bring the tea in that

1083
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: thermos that you always left me tea in because I said,

1084
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: big girls bring tea to school for lunch, and you

1085
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: let me drink that tea. And now I'm waiting for you,

1086
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: dear Daddy. I still love you, Dear Daddy. I forgive you.