1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. J P. Shacker, John osan and NFL Network 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: on George Jacksonville Jack Wars. Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome in to Huddle Up on a 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon with Bucky Brooks, John Oser, I'm J P. Shadrick. 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, March ninth, and coming up. Massive quarterback news 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: around the league. Aaron Rodgers stays in Green Bay, Russell 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Wilson leaving Seattle in exchange for a King's Ransom. Plus 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver d J. Chark working out with Trevor Lawrence. 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: What does it mean for his future in Teal? And 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: plenty more ahead as well. Let's start with the biggest 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: news for the Jaguars this week, though, guys. The Jags 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: have used the franchise tag on left tackle Cam Robinson 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: sixteen point six million guaranteed in two If he signs 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: the tender, the team and Robin and have until July 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: fifteenth to work out a long term deal or the 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: work on the franchise deal if he signs it allowed 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: one sack last year. Bucky, are you surprised by this 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: move at all? I am not surprised by the move. Um. 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: I want to say John O and I talked about 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: this last week, how that can set the stage for 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: the dominoes when it comes to the draft and how 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: this team is built. UH securing Cam Robinson on the 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: tag and maybe a long term deal. It enables you 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: to kind of free up yourself from UH having to 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: commit to take an offensive tackle at the top of 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: the board. Um, you still have the opportunity to put 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: walk a little in the lineup somewhere, and then maybe 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: you turn your efforts towards getting a pass rusher or 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: another position at the top of the board. Okay, I 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: think we talked about it last week, but Um, in 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: trying to sort of predict what they would do, I 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: kept going back to this and we may have talked 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: about it into what may have stuck in my mind, UM, 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: the idea that from a GM's perspective, when you're looking 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: at your roster, you've only got X amount of players 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: that you feel like our frontline guys. Had you let 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: Cam go, you're taking one drop out of that bucket. 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: If you will and you've got to fill it back 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: up with another drop, which would probably be in the draft. Well, 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: the idea of of keeping Cam is you keep that 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: in the bucket and then add one more into the bucket. 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: As the former scout. That's how personnel people think, right, Yeah, 45 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean what you're trying to do is you're trying 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: to look at it in team building. You're trying not 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: to do it in an isolated fashion. So what you 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,279 Speaker 1: want to do is you want to weigh your options. 49 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: If I have this player and that player, do I 50 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: like that uh option better than Okay, I can take 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: this draft pick and another player. So it's almost like, um, 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: what's the playing crisis? Right? Showcase? Show now which one 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: that you want? At the end in um, you get 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: you get to figure out which one that you wanted 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: in And so that's what you're doing in the office 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: is you're trying to figure out, Okay, what gives us 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: the best opportunity to hit all the needs and all 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: of the things that we must address for the best personnel. 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: And obviously after doing the evaluation, Cam Robinson was in 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: that picture. Because if you're Doug Peterson and you're trying 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: to figure out what's the best way for us to 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: get this rolling. Do I want to break in a 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: newbie at left tackle? Do I want to go with 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: someone who may have some flaws, but at least I 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: know what those are, and we feel confident enough that 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: maybe we can mask some of those efficiencies while getting 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the pieces of the puzzle right. Just 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: remember John to have your pet spade or newter to 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: help control the pet. That's right. That's right. Um So, now, Bucky, 70 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: what you know I said last week and I said 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: off season, this is the most uh intriguing puzzle that 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: I can remember in the Jaguars offensive line. And maybe 73 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: it's a reflection of the way the league's going in 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: the sense that offensive lineman can play more positions. Now, 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, you see more guys who can play left 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: hand right tackle, But I'm not sure what they're gonna do. 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming Walker little to the right. Does 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: that mean Joan Taylor swing doesn't mean he can play inside? 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: Who are you trying to bring back? I'm assuming Ben 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: Bartch is a starter in a j Kins not. But 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: I still don't know how this offensive line is gonna 82 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: look even with this move and wasn't a left tackle though, 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: right to swing right? Well, um, you know like so, 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: so he used the thing one. The right tackle the 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: left tackle. Now they're more common than uncommon in terms 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: of like being the similar in terms of job description 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and the kind of players that you want there. Now, 88 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: you're right tackle needs to be just as nimble as 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: your left tackle because teams are putting the premier pass 90 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: rusher at left efense event against the right tackle. So 91 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: I think we walk a little, he can go there. 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: I think you want can kind of kick inside. You 93 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: have to make a decision, and the determination us the 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: best five that you can put on the field. And 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: with a new offensive line coach and a new offensive philosophy, 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how they hold their best 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: five in in in top regard. And let's be honest, 98 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: how do they view Walk a little in comparison to 99 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: the other guys that are in this draft class at 100 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: the top. If they view him as better than maybe 101 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: that might be the impetus between what behind why they 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: may bypass an opportunity to take a guy at number one. 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: A lot of it is due to the self evaluation 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: and how you really evaluate your team compared to what 105 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: could be available on free agency and in the draft. 106 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: Also to JP's point, um, I don't know that Juwan 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Taylor can swing over to left, but if you've got 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: him as your theoretical swing guy, if Cam were to 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: get hurt, you could move Walk a little to left 110 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: and move to win in because Walk a little, you 111 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: know what I can do both. So it's not a 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: true swing, but it gives you options at that position 113 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 1: and some flexibility. And another thing here, Bucky with Walker little. 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: He played nine games last year, three starts last season. 115 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: One of those was literally fifteen minutes before his first 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: career started, he found out Cam Robinson had the back issue. 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: And then here comes Walker a little into the game. 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: It's not a huge sample size from from games and 119 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: tape and things on the field, but obviously this crew 120 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: drafted him for a reason and in draft him for 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: a reason, and you're right to sample size isn't um significant. 122 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: But part of what you're doing is you're gambling on 123 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: the upside and you're saying that this guy is going 124 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: to get better with more reps and opportunity. And so 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: with that experience, we feel like you'll develop enough expertise 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: to be able to be successful. It is Look, it's 127 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: the road dice, the road dice with anybody that you 128 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: put into the lineup, whether you you know, talking about 129 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: the top pick. Are those things. I think what the 130 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: ultimate gold is to build the best team. And we 131 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of have to wait until we see all the 132 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: dominoes fall to see how they attack the team building 133 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: process so we can confidently say whether we believe they 134 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: built or they are presenting a better team, or if 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: this is a team that has a lot of questions. Still, 136 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: regardless of all the flury of activity, what about still 137 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 1: drafting an offensive tackle, keeping Cam on a one year tag, 138 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: playing Evan Kneel at guard for a year, beef it up, 139 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: and then kick him out if you don't resign Cam 140 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: to what you would hope is his long traditional left tackle, 141 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: the Jonathan Ogden plan. If you will buck, I mean, 142 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: if you feel good about the guys at the top 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: of the board, if you view any of these offensive tackles, 144 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: UH like that. Yeah, that's certainly an interesting plan. Um 145 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: I would say this, I would say after the combine 146 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: um rather than kind of penciling in Evan Neil for that, 147 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: I think you have to talk about ikyakwanu um and 148 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: maybe if you're gonna think about that kind of plan, 149 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe Ikey a kwana we acause he's not quite like 150 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: the polished left tackle type in terms of justice playing 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: style and his refined technique. But he is a bit 152 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: of a bully um in the bar. He uh, he 153 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: certainly would be intriguing if you opted to go about 154 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: it that way. Wait a minute, but I think it's 155 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: a good option. Hold On, you just said something. Hold on, 156 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: you tore up your board. You just changed your whole board. 157 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: You just told me you never tear up a board. 158 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Now you tear up your board. You put Ikey up top. 159 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't say that. I said 160 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: the conversation has to be that to put the conversation 161 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: in there. Like all those guys are closely graded, Ikey Kwanu, 162 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: Evin Neil, even Charles Cross, like they all are all 163 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: carried close grades. We're still trying to sort it out 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: as we're trying to get him in and he's moving. No, 165 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: we're just trying to get him in the neighborhood. I'm 166 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: not trying to get him in the house yet. I 167 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: got him too, April, I got to the end of 168 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: April to get him in the house. I just got 169 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: him in the neighborhood. Were behind the gated fin gated community. 170 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: We're in the gated community. Just in the house. Where 171 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: does the Aidan Hutchinson fall in your You know, among 172 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: those offensive linemen, if you were in your board right now, 173 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks big board after the combine is aiding up 174 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: there amongst those tackles. He's your guy, right But yeah, 175 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: he's a good guy man, He's he's everything that you want. 176 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: But I would say this and have an opportunity to 177 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: talk to all of those guys at the top. The 178 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: only one I didn't talk to was Cross. I talked 179 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: to Evan Neil, I talked to Ikey Kwanu, Aidan Hudsonson. 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: I taught the cavan. All of them are fairly good. 181 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: All of them are solid. All of them bring different things. 182 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: The offensive lineman, Evan Neil and Ikey Kwana they're very 183 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: mature and serious about their approach. Evan Neil to me, 184 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the technician of the group. You 185 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of know what you're getting. You know, whatever car 186 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: you want to do it. I know we don't have 187 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: sponsorship or whatever. But I would say, like it's just 188 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: a solid car that is going to go because normally 189 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: reference like a Honda or camera, like, hey, you just 190 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: put it in and run for two miles, But I 191 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: can't do that. So um like solid iky Kwana maybe 192 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: have more upside than all of them. But he's a 193 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: little more maller brawler type and so there could be 194 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: some growing pains that you experienced because he's not necessarily 195 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: as refined as you want him. But what he brings 196 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: is just a freakish athlete with outstanding mala brawler skills 197 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: and a nasty temperament that I mean, he changes kind 198 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: of the temperature and the climate of of your old 199 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: line room when he steps in there. Aidan Hutchinson to me, 200 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: is a mix of all those things. Like when I 201 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: talked to him and some of his teammates, they just 202 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: talked about how he was the point on the sword. 203 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: He's the unquestioned leader. His work ethic is look man, 204 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: it is unmatched and turns. The way that he says, 205 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the tone, how he comes in the building, how he works, 206 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: how he plays, the effort that he displays in between 207 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: the lines, and those things that said, there are some 208 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: people that believe that he is what he is and 209 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: he may not get better. To me, I'm like, well, 210 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: at least I know what i'm getting. I'm getting a 211 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: very very good player. And then Cavon Tiper, though, is 212 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: the wild card because look, by his own admission, he 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: compared himself to Dadavian Clowney, which might not have been 214 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: the best comparison to put out there, right and in 215 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: terms of like the flashers skills, in terms of um 216 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: those things. He later came back and told me the 217 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: reason he made the comparison was he was trying to 218 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: best his numbers at the combine, not necessarily playing style. 219 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: But when you hear some of the stuff about him 220 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: and those things, people have wondered whether he'll play hard 221 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: enough consistently, whether he's maybe more preoccupied with the brand 222 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: and all of those things. That's it. He's a really 223 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: smart player, he's a really athletic player, and he is 224 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: a known commodity in terms of what he was able 225 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: to do on a big stage for three years at Oregon. 226 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Of those guys, I would say, the safest pick to 227 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: me would be Aidan Hutchinson. But I don't know if 228 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: you could go wrong at the other guys as well. 229 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: At one. By the way, I remember this program on 230 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoons was presented by the Fields Auto Group, especially 231 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: Fields Cadillac of Orange Park and St. Augustine. So Cadillac, 232 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know. You can tell me Cadillac, I mean 233 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Cadillac like kind of like a Devel. You know. Oh 234 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: those are not Do they still make those? I don't 235 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: think so. I don't know. Way back in the day, 236 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: my granddad you said, man, Cadillacs are big. You know, 237 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: they are big, Yes, and they're they're fast, and they're 238 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: they're very nice these days as well. Uh. This is 239 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast. Bucky Brooks, John Osier, I'm j P. Shadrick. 240 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Let's hear from general manager Trent Bulky. He sat down 241 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: at Radio Row this past week in Indianapolis at the 242 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine with Ashman Sullivan and John Osier. Asked 243 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: about his approach to free agency. No, the plans aggressive. 244 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, again, the fan base expects it, 245 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: the fan base, but we're gonna be smart. We're not 246 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: just gonna go make a move to make it. Uh, 247 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: because the locker room and then and this is what 248 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: fans don't see a lot of times. You know, the 249 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: players in those locker rooms, they know what's going on, 250 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: and they know a good player from a bad player. 251 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Turn on the film, they see it. So just because 252 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: you go out and make a splash and free agency 253 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: and everybody gets excited, how often do those players turn 254 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: out to be difference makers? And when the locker rooms 255 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: looking at it. And the big thing we have to 256 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: change in Jacksonville is when you look at our roster, 257 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: there's not enough players that are on their second contract 258 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. That's telling. And the only way to 259 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: change that is to draft good players, develop them. And 260 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: once you've developed them and they're they've established themselves is 261 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: keep them. Do everything you can to keep them because 262 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: they're hard to find. That that's Trent Blawky this past week, 263 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: Johnny were sitting right there. Yes I wasn't, you know. 264 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what sort of caused me to start 265 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: thinking second contract. You know, if it's not h Cam 266 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Robinson is probably DJ shark Um. So how are they 267 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: going to get to keeping second contract? Guys? You know 268 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: when jams and coaches speak at the combine, it's it's 269 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: in front of free agency, JP and and Bucky. So 270 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: you guys know, they tend to get kind of cryptic. 271 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: They'll talk about concepts and not specifics. To me, they 272 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: were talking about something when they were talking about bringing 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: guys back. So if they weren't going to do with 274 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: DJ Chark, then it probably to be Cam Robinson. So 275 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: that's why I started trying to piece together They've got 276 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: to be bringing somebody back. Yeah, well they've already tagged 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Cama Robinson since then, so that leads us to the 278 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: DJ Shark story. He wasn't drafted by Baalky, But this 279 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: falls right in line with what you're saying. John Pending, 280 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: free agent, broke his ankle in Week four last year, 281 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: has a Pro Bowl on his belt, there's reports of 282 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: other teams interested in the marketplace should he come free 283 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: and and now all of a sudden, Bucky. There's an 284 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Instagram story if you're into social media, reading all the 285 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: tea leaves and cryptic things that happened there. Well, yesterday 286 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Chark was running routes with Trevor Lawrence at 287 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Bishop Kenny High School just across the river here in Jacksonville. 288 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? Mm hmm I mean, 289 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: do they have a nice connection. It means that they 290 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: continue to try and build on the chemistry and all 291 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: of those things. I think the big thing would be, 292 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, what does Trevor feel about d J? Chart Like, 293 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: we didn't get a chance to see that connection really, 294 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: so how does Trevor feel about him? Does he really 295 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: view him as a number one a trusted guy, because 296 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, the quarterbacks voice carries weight in the building. 297 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: And then the other part will be what does DJ 298 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: Chark looking for financially in this deal? Coming off of 299 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: two seasons in which one of the production wasn't wasn't 300 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: at a high level and then he had injuries. I 301 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: don't know what his market is, you know. And I 302 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: know we can get excited about him because we're kind 303 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: of kind of glued to him because the Jags are 304 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: a team. But where does he stack up in comparison 305 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: to some of the other great receivers around the league? 306 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: That ultimately set the market and that will determine how 307 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: much money is needed to bring him back. Sure, you 308 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: would like Trevor to have a trusted targets, someone that 309 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: he can lean on, someone that he's kind of built 310 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: chemistry with, But I think it all comes down to 311 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: the price. If the price is right, hey you do 312 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: it again. If not, you may have to find another 313 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: player that can be the number one. Another price is 314 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: right right, another one. He's dropped him here again coming up. 315 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my favorite. I do like plink, like, 316 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: let's take it down, And I just wanted that in 317 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: the the Mountain Climber. I'm pretty good at here's a 318 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: couple of thoughts on that. Um, there's nothing wrong with 319 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: bringing DJ Chark back. I think even at a good number, 320 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. I believe he's going to 321 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: be a better player year five through eight then he 322 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: was year one through four. I don't know if he's 323 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: a one. As soon as we get too caught up 324 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: in w R one a is Bucky likes to say. 325 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's got a chance to be 326 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: a really, really good player, Like but he said, the 327 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: number has to be right. The more I think about 328 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: the DJ Chark story, UM, I don't know if he's 329 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: Trevor's guy, but they spent some time together last summer. 330 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: Trevor's a good guy. Um. From DJ Chark's point of view, 331 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: why would you, uh, why would you post that or 332 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: have that posted or want that out there if you 333 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: weren't coming back to the Jags and working. Trevor Lawrence, Well, 334 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: he's sustained a serious broken ankle in September. You're ten 335 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: days away from free agency. Put it out there that 336 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: you can run running around. Absolutely so. I mean I 337 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: think that, uh the note on it said slowly but 338 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: surely was what he put on there. But getting it 339 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: out there that through it, I think it is more 340 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: of it. It strikes me. I don't think d have 341 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: any problem with coming back, But it strikes me that 342 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: that's more of a let's get it out there that 343 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm healthy than any sort of cryptic sign that he's 344 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: coming back to the Jags automatically. I mean, I said 345 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: it over and over again. I hope he's back. I 346 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: think he's a good kid, good for the organization. I 347 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: hope they can make it work. I think they'd like 348 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: to make it work. But it's a tricky deal financially. 349 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: We'll see. Next couple of weeks will be big, of course, 350 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: free agency officially and the start of the league year Wednesday, 351 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: four o'clock next week a week from today. Massive quarterback 352 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: news around the NFL. Russell Wilson on the move. Aaron 353 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers is not. Apparently that's after this. Welcome back to 354 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast with Bucky Brooks and John Osier. 355 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. The Dailies play schedule filling out 356 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: for the spring and summer. John, You're gonna be busy 357 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: Brothers Osborne April eight, Little Dirk April nineteen, Tim McGraw 358 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: May five, Ericapado with job Rule and Goody Mob. That's 359 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: May six, The Offspring May seven, Two Nights to the 360 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: Lumineers May Sting, May twentieth, Chicago May twenty second, The 361 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: Dooey Brothers with Michael McDonald June five, and all the 362 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: information at Daily's Place dot com. Any of those stand out, 363 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: John h Yeah, I mean the old guy, uh, Michael McDonald, 364 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: that's right in your wheelhouse, Chicago Brothers and yeah. But 365 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: but in my defense, I could name you four or 366 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: five Offspring songs they had to run there in the nineties. 367 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: Now that's old too, now, I mean that's the problem 368 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: to me. The Offspring are the young punk band that 369 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: it got popular off the backs of the punk bands 370 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: that I really really liked, you know, now, JP. The 371 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: problem is I'm not only the old Doobie Brothers guy. 372 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm the old get off my lawn punk rocker guy 373 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: old and double old. Yeah, so I've got nothing for 374 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: you with that Jah rule. I think that's not on 375 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: my part. I wonder I think Celos with Goody Bob again, Bucky, 376 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, we can go see good May six. 377 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: I just wrote it down to my captain there Atlanta 378 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: with Eric's the lead, and then there's there's yeah, so 379 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: we can do it. We can do a few different things. 380 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: What else you like in there, Bucky? Anything I left out? 381 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: Dave Matthews Band, They're coming in June two nights, wait lead, Yeah, right, 382 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: I need to work some sources for those shows. Wow, 383 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: sold out in like ten minutes. I don't know if 384 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: it's sold out, but in theory they do all the time. Yeah, 385 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: they're they're not my guys, but they they do. Indeed, 386 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: apparently Bucky's into them as well. And we'll try to 387 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: get that done Bucky that. I don't know if that's 388 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: in the contract or what will work on that. M 389 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: Tuesday obviously a significant newsday in the NFL IS franchise 390 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Tag deadline Day eight teams tagged franchise players around the league, 391 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: of course, including the Jaguars. We mentioned that earlier, but 392 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: that news was quickly overshadowed by massive quarterback news. First, 393 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee announced on his show that Aaron Rodgers is 394 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: coming back to the Packers. Later, the initial numbers came 395 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: out four years, two hundred million, much of that guaranteed. 396 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers later said that the numbers weren't exactly accurate, but 397 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: confirmed he will be with the Green Bay Packers. Bucky, 398 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: it's a miracle they figured it out. He's staying in 399 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay. It is a miracle they have figured it out. 400 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: He's standing in Green Bay. And the numbers that they're 401 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: banting about, uh, four year, two hundred million dollar extension 402 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: reportedly with a hundred and fifty three million and guaranteed money. 403 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: It's significant. It pushes the quarterback market, which we want 404 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: to pay attention to for the quarterbacks. Fifty million per 405 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot, I mean, that's a lot of green 406 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: that's a lot of Lettus for quarterbacks. Now. It changes 407 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: the dynamic. And what would be interesting because once Rogers 408 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: does that, and you know, Russell is gonna get paid 409 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson and all these other guys that kind 410 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: of start getting in line to get their money, and 411 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: so just makes it for an interesting thing in a 412 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: couple of years when we have to look at the 413 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Trevor situation. It does it pushes the market. And uh, 414 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'll say this as the old guy again, Um, 415 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: knowing this never happens. Uh, teams have to be smart, 416 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: but it's hard to be smart. I the packers, painter 417 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: and Rodgers, whatever he wants. Absolutely, he he's proven it. 418 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: I you know with pretty strong conviction that if you 419 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: pay him fifty million dollars a year, you've got a 420 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: pretty good swing at going twelve and four and and 421 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: being in the conversation at the end, Um, do you 422 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: feel that as strongly if you feel that at ten? 423 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: Where do you feel it? On Russell, Wilson and eight? 424 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: I and Russell is really really good? Do you feel 425 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: that he's getting you twelve by himself? Like I mean, 426 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: it's never by himself. But you know my point, it's 427 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: a guarantee. It's almost a guarantee with Aaron Rodgers, almost 428 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: guarantee with Tom Brady, I Jackson, Russell maybe a little 429 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: bit below that, but they're gonna get paid like it 430 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: at some point, so it's gonna push that market um 431 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you've got your Kyler 432 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Murray's where it's all being pushed on assumption. But that's 433 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: also gonna be raised by Aaron Rodgers. So as Bucky, 434 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: like say, Bucky loves his sayings, I'm sure he's gonna 435 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: come back with me right now. The rising tides raise 436 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: all boats, if you will. That's what's going on, and 437 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: it's it's not a good thing, but there's good and 438 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: bad ramifications of any contract like that. Well, then the Broncos, 439 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: of course, later on Tuesday, the thought about Russell Wilson 440 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: with the blockbuster trade apparently going down to Wilson in 441 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: the sixth round pick going to the Bencos in exchange 442 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: for the following get your pencil and scorecard ready, Drew Lock, 443 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: Noah Fan, Shelby Harris, two first round picks, two second 444 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: round picks, and a fifth round pick. That's in theory 445 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: eight players if they pick all the picks. And of 446 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: course the Seahawks later cut Bobby Wagner, so it's full 447 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: rebuild mode in Seattle. But the Broncos are going all 448 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: in on the quarterback. Here's the thing that cracked me up. 449 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and a sixth round pick. Just to balance 450 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: it out, the scout guy and all picks are all 451 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: picks are valuable. But that's basically like, hey, we'll send 452 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: you Russell Wilson. Oh and I see your iPhones broken. 453 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: Here's the case. Yeah, that's that's exactly what That's exactly 454 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: what happened. They're like, oh yeah, well, well well sweeten it. Yeah, 455 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: I gotta have one more thing to make it right. Look, man, 456 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing is some of this is 457 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: the fallout or the reaction to what the Rams were 458 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: able to do successfully and winning a Super Bowl. Back 459 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: to back years. We've seen two teams that have made 460 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: major moves at quarterback. They were able to parlay those 461 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: moves into championships. And so because of that, it is 462 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: created maybe a new team building model where people are 463 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: going very aggressively to get the franchise quarterback that they 464 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: believe can take them over the top. And so with 465 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: Russo going to the Denver Broncos, it changes the narrative. 466 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: Now I'll sit here and say I don't know if 467 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: Russell is good enough to lead the Broncos to even 468 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: winning that division. In the division which you have Patrick Mahomes, 469 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, you have Darrek Carr. I don't know where 470 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: he stacks in that division. I don't even know if 471 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: he's the second best quarterback in a division with Justin Herbert. 472 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting because now everybody in the 473 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: a f C has to begin to gear for an 474 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: arms race at quarterback. Because in the a f C 475 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen that we're talking about, you have 476 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson who's been an m v P. You have 477 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow who just took his team to the Super Bowl. Um, 478 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean the quarterback play in the a f C 479 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: is amazing. Just the NFC West alone, Now I mean 480 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: that the entire division. I mean like it's it's a lot. 481 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to eventually happen with Deshaun Watson, 482 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: but I mean you're talking about an arms race where Now, 483 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars perspective, you have to look at that 484 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: and you have to build your team ultimately with those 485 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: teams in mind, how are you going to win shootouts 486 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: against those quarterbacks in this conference? But question speaking your 487 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: arms race or team building. I do have a question 488 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: that I wanted to get to the top with Bucky, 489 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: but I don't want to let it sort of slide. 490 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: Bucky on on one of your Move the Sticks podcast, 491 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: and yes I do listen to Buck even when he's 492 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: not in this shop. I fluked into it. It's not 493 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: a habit. I didn't one. You made a fascinating comment 494 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: to me, and uh, I liked your cynicism a little bit, 495 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: and I felt like maybe I'm rubbing off on you 496 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: a little bit when you talk about when you talked 497 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: about the speed we saw at the combine this week, 498 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: and that was the other topic, was the speed. I 499 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: sensed from listening to you that you were impressed with 500 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: the speed at wide receiver. But something bothered you about 501 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: this wide receiver class. Can you expand on it? It 502 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: seems like you were seeing through some sort of facade, 503 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily a facade, but here here's what I would 504 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: say that a lot of guys ran fast in a 505 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: straight line. But normally when you're evaluating players and you're 506 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: doing the testing part of it, typically if you run fast, 507 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: you also jump high because it correlates with the overall 508 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: explosiveness that an athlete had the issue with the wide 509 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: receiver class that we saw a lot of these guys 510 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: ran fast in the straight line, but we didn't have 511 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: many guys that jumped verticals over thirty five and they 512 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: didn't pop broad jumps that were over ten three ten five. 513 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: And whether it signifies is one, they're not really explosive 514 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: in the lower body. And so the straight line guys 515 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: that have been kind of working on the straight line speed, 516 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: that's great, but they don't necessarily have um some of 517 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: the explosives that you want to see in the lower body. 518 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: The other thing is all these guys that were running fast, 519 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: they were all lightweights of flyweightsight pounds, Yeah, little dudes, 520 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: And we said this, hey man, there's a reason why 521 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: you don't put middle weights in the ring with heavyweights. 522 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: You don't win the slug fest. And when you look 523 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: at the postseason, those wide receivers that were having success 524 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: in the teams that were having success were bigger, faster, stronger. 525 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: And so while I respect and appreciate all the speed 526 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: that was on display when the wide receiver drills, I 527 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: want bigger wide receivers. I want bigger corners. It's a 528 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: big man's game, and it's hard for little guys to 529 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: survive over the course of a seventeen game regular season. 530 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: It's just harder. It's just harder to win with smaller 531 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: guys on the perimeter. How many teams are looking for 532 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill right now? Though, Bucky uh Tyreek Hill put no, No, 533 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: he's out, but like he's built like a running back. 534 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: So he's a little squatty. I think he's closer to 535 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: two pounds he's one right now, but he is explosive 536 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: his jumps and all this stuff. Everyone right now is 537 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: looking for Deebo Samuel and they're looking for the A. J. 538 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Brown types and the Jamaar chases. And when you look 539 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: at the way those guys are built and the way 540 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: they run through contact and tackles and all of that stuff, 541 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: they're looking for guys that they have a little something 542 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: to them. And so I think that's the bigger thing. 543 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: And the other thing is on the other side of 544 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: the ball, you're looking for dbs who can tackle get 545 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: guys down in space. Because it showed up in the postseason. 546 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: If your team can tackle, you can't play not only 547 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: against the running game, but against the passing act, so 548 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: you have to have those guys. But overall, I was 549 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: impressed with the athleticism in the other positions, like watching 550 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: the D line group go the edge rushes and D tackles. 551 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy to see these three plus pounders move around 552 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: like they're moving around on the turf. That is something 553 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: that you we're just not used to seeing. Before we 554 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: close out, give me one guy, buck, Um, I'm convinced 555 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: they've got to go wide receiver at thirty three or 556 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: somewhere in the trade up. You know, you know what's 557 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: what actually happens. Feel right now? Um, who's your guy there? 558 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sick with the guy that I've been kind 559 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: of championed the whole time. There's a kid from Perdue 560 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: named David Bill who, to me is a number one 561 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: receiver that you can get outside of the first round. Uh. 562 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: Not quite what Allen Robinson is, but very similar in 563 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: terms of how he plays. A complete receiver that runs 564 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: the intermediate part of the route, tree, consistent hands and 565 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: break tackles and do all the things that you expect 566 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: your lead receiver to be able to do. Top of 567 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: the second round, I'm all over him. Uh, but they're 568 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna be some other guys like I think the Arkansas 569 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: kids is gonna eventually drop out the first round. Trailin Brooks. Uh, 570 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: he's a bigger kid. Uh. He weighed in at two 571 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: five I think, but report a bird. Bertie told me 572 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: that it might have been a little heavier when he 573 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: showed up to his training facility, So that worries me 574 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. But um s size and I think 575 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: when you're building this team out for Trevor, let's go 576 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: back and look at the guys that he had around 577 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: him at Clemson. He wasn't throwing the ball to a 578 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: bunch of little pip squeaks. You have some big guys 579 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: on the outside that they were thrown too. Because what 580 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 1: it does when you have bigger guys outside, you can 581 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: throw up some of those balls and win because superior 582 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: size and length and athleticism tends to win out in 583 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: those situations. It'll do it. For the Huddle Up Podcast today, Bucky, 584 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: what do you have coming up this week? Oh man, 585 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: it's a fantastic week. Man. A lot of stuff on 586 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: the plate, dude, JP just reacting to all these quarterback 587 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: moves and cre agency and tags and all of that stuff. 588 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, trying to get my draft plans right. You're 589 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: redoing your board. It sounds like, I mean that's what 590 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: it sounds. No, no, no, the board, the board. The 591 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: board stays pretty good. System like it makes my tweets, 592 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, some tweaks, JP like, you 593 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: don't change the recipe. You just may add a little 594 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: dash of pepper here, a little solid the regular look 595 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: like little stuff, you know. Okay. And for people who 596 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm dipping into your order lit bit JPM 597 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: doing a tease. Bucky will be on our draft coverage 598 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com. It's here and so that's uh 599 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: something look forward to it. I know we're a ways 600 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: out from that. That's a new Wrinkles show and uh 601 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be great. And he'll be helping us, 602 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: uh leading up to the draft so absolutely as he 603 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: always does. And we're looking forward to expanding a little 604 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: more love more Bucky's that's obviously hard quarterfied more Bucky 605 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: less us. Yeah, that's right, that's that's that's our man. 606 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to 607 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: getting them more pick eyeballs on the number one pick. 608 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: But eyeballs, well plenty of them. That's Bucky Brooks for 609 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: John Osier and Joe Fortunado. Our producer, I'm J. P. Shadwick. 610 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: We will catch you next time on the Huddle Up Podcast.