Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
Speaker 1: scripted as well the bands, because not all the time,
Speaker 1: but sometimes the show happens before we hit record.
Speaker 2: Most times, the show.
Speaker 3: Especially with Blue, Oh.
Speaker 2: No, it's at you remember me different?
Speaker 3: Did you get your tall sucked?
Speaker 2: Blue?
Speaker 4: That's what they said on Money in Our Live last night,
Speaker 4: that you were getting your toe sucked and that's why
Speaker 4: you weren't there.
Speaker 2: My sister sent me a screenshot of that. I said,
Speaker 2: what hell I meant to ask you? What were y'all
Speaker 2: talking about when my toes and sucking was even?
Speaker 4: We weren't even talking about you or toes or sucking.
Speaker 4: Somebody put it.
Speaker 5: They were like, where's Blue? So you know, like you
Speaker 5: know how it is?
Speaker 6: The cop is We're like talking and they you know,
Speaker 6: the comments they have their own conversation.
Speaker 5: That's the cop.
Speaker 6: The live chat is their group chat and they talk
Speaker 6: to each other. So somebody said she's getting her toes sucked.
Speaker 6: So then Lula, who runs the moderates, who moderates the
Speaker 6: live chat, she posted it on the screen and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, what, I thought you liked me friends, But here
Speaker 2: I go.
Speaker 5: I'm listen.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to talk about Angela Oakley hoodie, and then
Speaker 6: I see that comment. I'm like, Ben Jasmin, says Carlos
Speaker 6: looking at her toes suck. I said, when it comes
Speaker 6: to Blue, I don't know what she does, but it
Speaker 6: sounds like that's something she would be doing.
Speaker 4: I'm not above it, Blue bit He goes happy pride, Blue.
Speaker 2: Be PRIDEA guys can see I've been doing manual labor
Speaker 2: from my naked face. So I'm opening up my my
Speaker 2: storefront in a couple of weeks and so we're opening
Speaker 2: boxes and yeah, and we have Here's the thing. Everybody
Speaker 2: who works with me is an industry person, because you know,
Speaker 2: the industry is dying. Is an industry person who does
Speaker 2: not want to work at Traded Joe's and be seen
Speaker 2: by the people. So if you have if you're an entrepreneur,
Speaker 2: think about hiring people in the industry who are in
Speaker 2: between blessings.
Speaker 5: I'm being so sinceaent between blessing.
Speaker 6: That's a good way of looking at like the quiet moment.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, and there's no there's no shame, there's
Speaker 2: no ego. I always say, you don't work for me,
Speaker 2: you work with me.
Speaker 5: So you pay them, feed them tipped on what you do.
Speaker 2: I pay them above market value. So everybody gets paid
Speaker 2: a livable wage. I'm very adamant to me twenty five
Speaker 2: dollars minimum wage. Like, I think everybody should get paid.
Speaker 2: I don't care how simple the task is. Everybody should
Speaker 2: get paid enough where they can pay their bills. I
Speaker 2: get them lunch because craft service is important industry folks.
Speaker 2: If you don't feed them, they get a little angry.
Speaker 2: We have a thing where whatever troubles you're going through,
Speaker 2: we don't trauma dump, So you're not allowed to trauma
Speaker 2: dump in the space for the eight hours you're with me.
Speaker 2: We're here to listen to jazz and get these candles out.
Speaker 5: And we don't mean Jasmine Brown who.
Speaker 2: On cue that felt very on cue?
Speaker 3: What the it wasn't even planned?
Speaker 4: I was trying to fix my light, and I was like,
Speaker 4: y'all don't want me like putting my whole face into
Speaker 4: the camera.
Speaker 3: Sarcking like, no, I just lunch breaks.
Speaker 2: We have to watch Housewives. Go. I told them because
Speaker 2: of the Carlos, I always have to watch housewives. So
Speaker 2: they had to watch Housewives in their lunch break. They
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, Angela looks crazy.
Speaker 5: No, what's funny is Blue?
Speaker 6: When I say to you, the cop is the beauty thing,
Speaker 6: the beautiful thing about us. We can laugh at the
Speaker 6: comments Blue before they found out you were joining last night, somebody.
Speaker 5: Your day come getting bitched. I wonder how Blue is
Speaker 5: gonna defend Angela. Somebody said, I.
Speaker 6: Wonder what astrology chart Blue is going to use in
Speaker 6: defense of Angela.
Speaker 2: The Blue, my God, don't play about me. I said,
Speaker 2: sit this one out. Says sit this one out, And
Speaker 2: a lot of people are already mad at me. So
Speaker 2: it would have been it would have been a party.
Speaker 5: The Blue one more. This is the best one to
Speaker 5: be because we all can laugh at it.
Speaker 6: Somebody said, how convenient Blue isn't here when the episode
Speaker 6: of her favorite Angela.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you guys are literally Becky up stumped.
Speaker 2: I don't work for this lady. I don't care what
Speaker 2: the I want to call. I was like, you look unhinged.
Speaker 2: Are you serious? Everybody could get it? My old friends
Speaker 2: and family could get it. You think I'm caping for Angela?
Speaker 5: You know what? Doub little it was.
Speaker 6: Actually the funny thing is I just love how the
Speaker 6: audience who watches us, everybody is so invested that they
Speaker 6: actually predict, like predict and look forward to our commentary.
Speaker 5: So you listen. I saw that to say you were.
Speaker 6: Clearly missed last night. Jason stepped in and did a
Speaker 6: marvelous job you all she did.
Speaker 2: They wanted to jump me, Jasmine, thank you for sitting.
Speaker 2: Come on, we're not We're not gonna hit you, just
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 3: After that, I happily stood in took your lashings.
Speaker 2: Now you owe me. Here's the thing, and respectfully, I
Speaker 2: love y'all so much for being so invested. You can't
Speaker 2: beat me up. And also there's that yes, and you
Speaker 2: can't whoop me, so that's tricky. Also, someone was like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna hit up Carlos King to tell him about
Speaker 2: Blues takes on Love Island. I said, do you think
Speaker 2: telling a reality show producer that I can elicit a
Speaker 2: strong response is a bad thing. You mental giants. Ooh,
Speaker 2: that's gonna get me in trouble on you.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, they they don't know Carlos because they
Speaker 4: will tell Carlos on you and Carlos around and start
Speaker 4: having Love Island recaps with Blue.
Speaker 2: So y'all, I'm not gonna get me in trouble, Like
Speaker 2: my personality is baked into my job description.
Speaker 5: Blue survived Kardashian recap.
Speaker 2: So holler at me And I was like, are you
Speaker 2: not entertained?
Speaker 6: But Jack, that's how discovering her because the raindrops said
Speaker 6: there's a woman on TikTok that is doing a marvelous
Speaker 6: job at the kardash And I'm like, let me see,
Speaker 6: and you know me, I'm like, I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2: Would you like to now, like Oliver twist, excuse me,
Speaker 2: you can have a piece content you join me. And
Speaker 2: I would have to say, Carlos, you know who you're inviting, right,
Speaker 2: I always say the same thing, Jazz, just so everybody
Speaker 2: knows who there. You don't invite Denis Rodman to a
Speaker 2: function and expect them not to show up as by
Speaker 2: Barack Obama to a function and expect them not to
Speaker 2: Rubbleshelle's booty. You need to know who you were inviting
Speaker 2: into these places.
Speaker 6: And I'm a happy camper and I have Blue and
Speaker 6: Jazz again because.
Speaker 5: The moment we thought we were done with Summer.
Speaker 6: House, I listen, ladies, this was not on my Bengal card.
Speaker 2: Unhanda us Amanda unhandas.
Speaker 6: So brain drops, West and Amanda are not returning to
Speaker 6: next season of Summer House.
Speaker 5: We found out West last week wasn't.
Speaker 6: Coming back to Yesterday it was revealed that Amanda is
Speaker 6: not coming back and according to Child, according to E News,
Speaker 6: they're making it seem like it was her choice that
Speaker 6: she decided to quit due to all of the brew
Speaker 6: haha that has been happening in regards to the scandal
Speaker 6: between her and West, and apparently she did not want
Speaker 6: to do the show again. So starting with you, Jazz,
Speaker 6: Wes is not coming back, which we talked about the fact.
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe Sierra said, look for my mental health. I
Speaker 5: told you once.
Speaker 6: Before y'all ignored me. I'm serious now I can't do
Speaker 6: it with Amanda. What do you think is the reason
Speaker 6: behind her exit? Fire or did she leave her on accord?
Speaker 4: Well, one of the great philosophers of our time, Carlos King,
Speaker 4: told me many moons ago he only knows. I think
Speaker 4: of one girl in the verse who has ever actually quit.
Speaker 4: So all the statements that they put out saying that
Speaker 4: it's time for them to walk away, they're walking away
Speaker 4: because someone at the network told them take a walk,
Speaker 4: take a hike. So I definitely believe they tell Amanda
Speaker 4: to take a fucking hike because I can't see. There's
Speaker 4: not a world that I see Amanda willingly walking away
Speaker 4: from any attention on TV.
Speaker 3: So I think she was fired. Absolutely, Yeah, Lou, who's
Speaker 3: the one girl?
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'll text you, but think of this.
Speaker 2: I'm still on the tea adjustment just dropped.
Speaker 6: Casual when the housewife say, after much thought and consideration,
Speaker 6: I have decided not to return to the upcoming season
Speaker 6: of The Real Housewives up insert city here. I would
Speaker 6: like to focus on my family, my children, and my
Speaker 6: multiple businesses. Please continue to follow me and support me
Speaker 6: at insert Instagram hands though. I love my fans and
Speaker 6: I'll see you soon. This is not the last you'll
Speaker 6: see of me. Now that it's like copy and to
Speaker 6: say the housewife who definitely quit, like literally said I
Speaker 6: don't need this ship goodbye.
Speaker 5: Is Lisa Vanda Pomp.
Speaker 2: The richest bish to ever do it?
Speaker 5: That makes sense?
Speaker 2: Are you serious that lady.
Speaker 5: Is filthy rich?
Speaker 4: And she she walked away and they said we'll give
Speaker 4: you another show actually and gave her the valley.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah.
Speaker 6: So to Jazz's point, when Bravo celebrities and listen, kudos
Speaker 6: to Bravo, because one thing I love is when Bravo
Speaker 6: doesn't ask you back or when you don't accept your
Speaker 6: offer because you think it's too low and you kind
Speaker 6: of like reading between the lines. At least Bravo gives
Speaker 6: the girls an opportunity to tell whatever story they won
Speaker 6: the press and kudosa Brava for not interfering with the messaging.
Speaker 5: So do we think.
Speaker 6: Blue Amanda got fired and she's trying to save face.
Speaker 2: I think the negotiations that Amanda was having per Sierra's
Speaker 2: and other people's requests made her realize to cut her losses.
Speaker 2: I think it's somewhere in between where she did not
Speaker 2: want to leave and something called consequences. I know, boys
Speaker 2: and girls, we don't talk about this on social media
Speaker 2: anymore because we all just weaponize mental health instead. But
Speaker 2: consequences mean, you know, if you act a fool, people
Speaker 2: might be upset about that, right. So I think between
Speaker 2: Sierra and Lindsey and even Carl, even Carl has stipulations
Speaker 2: about who he I've never seen Carl have this much
Speaker 2: of a backbone in my life. He's like, no, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be talked to Wes. And Carl's usually
Speaker 2: the guy who's Switzerland, who's just happy to be there.
Speaker 2: So even people who are usually easily swayed were setting
Speaker 2: boundaries that had never been set before. And I think
Speaker 2: a man that realized, oh I'm gonna actually have to
Speaker 2: like be an adult and not play victim to be
Speaker 2: back on the show, I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 2: I literally don't know how to not play victim and
Speaker 2: everybody on my side. In the same way, we said
Speaker 2: that Shemia is crumbling because she's used to being adjacent
Speaker 2: to a fath and now that she's out of favor,
Speaker 2: she actually doesn't know how to deal with being out
Speaker 2: of favor. I think Amanda is the same way. I
Speaker 2: don't think the thing about Bravo is when you're a
Speaker 2: fath you are a demigod. You can do just about anything,
Speaker 2: and there's something there. It's almost like Drake in the
Speaker 2: music industry. There's always a machine there to clean it
Speaker 2: up for you, you know what I mean, always a
Speaker 2: machine to clean it up. When that machine goes to
Speaker 2: someone else and you're sitting in your own soil, that
Speaker 2: is a daring reality. And I think the reality is
Speaker 2: a man that realized unless she came up fully grown,
Speaker 2: they weren't going to take her back. So for her,
Speaker 2: it was the equivalent of being fired.
Speaker 6: And if being' gets to your point, she's on col
Speaker 6: Richard's you know, like there's certain bra celebrities that.
Speaker 5: Is Harold did.
Speaker 6: Like you said, it's like, oh and Amanda is not that.
Speaker 6: And as somebody who watches in the city and I'm
Speaker 6: being introduced to Amanda, her personality does strike me as
Speaker 6: somebody that does have an ego, not that she's like
Speaker 6: this big personality, but you could tell like she loves
Speaker 6: the cameras, which is good.
Speaker 5: As a producer, I.
Speaker 6: Want all of my stars to love the cameras because
Speaker 6: they'll give you what you need for the show. So
Speaker 6: the idea of her having to walk away from it.
Speaker 5: My question now.
Speaker 6: Is what does that mean for in the City, because again,
Speaker 6: we have these two engines here, we have Summer House,
Speaker 6: the bread and butter.
Speaker 5: In this City is sort of like the.
Speaker 6: Slow Burn that I think we'll get a second season
Speaker 6: because on Peacock it's always in the top five. And
Speaker 6: that's a good thing because you know, Welcome twenty twenty
Speaker 6: six rain drops. Networks care more about the streaming than
Speaker 6: the live viewing, right, So in this City is doing
Speaker 6: well on Peacock? Was she returned to in the city
Speaker 6: and not somehere else?
Speaker 4: Well, Blue you had told me like there was like
Speaker 4: a like a concerted effort to like protect Amanda, particularly
Speaker 4: with the reunion, because they invested so much in the city.
Speaker 4: So like, uh, I think, I guess she'll come back.
Speaker 4: I've stopped watching in the City, so I actually don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't find it interesting. I'm not investing. I'm not
Speaker 3: invested in the new people.
Speaker 4: And then like the old people, I'm like, I just
Speaker 4: watched jaw Bitches on Summer House, Like I need a
Speaker 4: little bit of a You have to.
Speaker 2: Think about it. We're used to seeing those people, so
Speaker 2: a lot of it is them rehading nachos to Carlos
Speaker 2: fresh nachos.
Speaker 3: That's that's you know what, take a shot. He's the
Speaker 3: first time viewer, and.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm only watching for like Amanda's Kyle's conversations. I
Speaker 6: will say that, no, shade, I am watching Get Out
Speaker 6: of Habit Now because I really am interested in Kyle
Speaker 6: and Amanda, and I also like Kenny and what's going
Speaker 6: on with his dad.
Speaker 5: But to your point, Jazz is not like it's grabbing
Speaker 5: me that.
Speaker 6: I have to watch it either, So I totally get
Speaker 6: while you stopped.
Speaker 2: I think Lindsay was always the I think it was
Speaker 2: Kyle and Amanda as a two headed monster and then
Speaker 2: Lindsey and I think that Lindsay is such a big
Speaker 2: personality that her and Kyle can hold up a show
Speaker 2: on their own with that Amanda Amanda was partially to
Speaker 2: begin with, To be perfectly honest, Also, to a prediction
Speaker 2: that I made several months ago has come true. I
Speaker 2: told everybody and their mother whenever Sierra or one of
Speaker 2: the black people talk about race, the person who feels
Speaker 2: like they almost got to invite to the cookout is Kyle.
Speaker 2: Kyle is very pro black. I've always said he's the
Speaker 2: most pro black person on that cast, like he cries
Speaker 2: when we talk about civil rights, and I was like,
Speaker 2: watch him me with a black girl? Uh after Amanda,
Speaker 2: And sure enough he's been seen smooching, allegedly Dame Dash's
Speaker 2: daughter from the new gen X series. Yeah, and the
Speaker 2: thing is Kyle has I think Kyle really did think
Speaker 2: Sea was hot and his wife was annoyed that she
Speaker 2: was the hall pass. Like we all glossed over that, like, oh,
Speaker 2: he was just kidding. No, Kyle likes chocolate. And so
Speaker 2: if Kyle and his new emon or whatever black girlfriend
Speaker 2: of the week wants to pop up and hang out
Speaker 2: with Lindsey and flip tables, I would watch that. We
Speaker 2: don't need a man for it to be fun. She
Speaker 2: could be a friend of who just shows up to
Speaker 2: cry and pick up her Maile of every couple of episodes.
Speaker 3: Kyle, I'm a cat. She's getting on Westerner.
Speaker 2: Oh no, hell, West is livid. She higher life planning.
Speaker 3: He's stuck with her and she got him fire from
Speaker 3: his from his gig.
Speaker 2: He is livid.
Speaker 6: Talk about the whiteboard that blue that you watched because
Speaker 6: you dm it to me and I'm like, this is fascinating.
Speaker 5: So rain Drops and Jaz I'm sure you saw it.
Speaker 5: Wes was on a different.
Speaker 6: Podcast and these it's you know, it was Bros. And
Speaker 6: they have a whiteboard, ask them all these questions. Do
Speaker 6: y'all think that that was his way of trying to
Speaker 6: like clean up his image or something or explain himself,
Speaker 6: although he did reveal yesterday he regrets doing it.
Speaker 2: I think it was a way for him to repackage
Speaker 2: it as bro speak. They'resting and black and white, but
Speaker 2: in the context of Bros. Suddenly it's like, oh, locker
Speaker 2: room talk, right, And for those who doesn't see, it
Speaker 2: was a whiteboard the way you would have when you
Speaker 2: have the whiteboards of people in like a date line
Speaker 2: with the red lines going from everybody to everybody, figuring
Speaker 2: out who did the murder. But instead of murdering a person,
Speaker 2: you murdered a career or two. And they're asking him
Speaker 2: all these interrogative questions and they're like, they even addressed
Speaker 2: the thing I remember about which statement you said that
Speaker 2: y'all didn't have sex until after the State.
Speaker 5: They literally you.
Speaker 2: Can tell they watched the show. Uh huh do it?
Speaker 2: So they were like, so, which statement because they're saying
Speaker 2: that it was. He was like, no, we did. You know,
Speaker 2: we messed around, but we didn't do any D N
Speaker 2: E P until the second statement.
Speaker 3: Just before that.
Speaker 2: So basically we were right. If you're doing everything but
Speaker 2: D in the first of all? Who still says D
Speaker 2: and the P?
Speaker 3: West?
Speaker 2: Every time? West look a little fine to me, he
Speaker 2: keeps talking.
Speaker 6: We didn't find out lift it be a blue kind
Speaker 6: of like a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, I might not even go hold you had
Speaker 2: a moment. He had a moment that he's over six
Speaker 2: ft tall? Over six ft tall?
Speaker 3: West?
Speaker 2: Yes, Jesse, how thought Jesse?
Speaker 3: Because they're all big boys, are all?
Speaker 2: They're all big boys. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 2: I want to talk Bunny, how tall they were? A
Speaker 2: tall man, A tall funk boy is more attractive than
Speaker 2: a short fun boy. Can we all just be honest?
Speaker 5: Well, I want Kenny to be tall.
Speaker 2: Kenny, don't Kenny. No, let me tell you Kenny look like.
Speaker 3: For you girls, I like Kenny as a reality TV personality.
Speaker 2: That's a great sentence. He's finally he talks. He's a
Speaker 2: kind of person who would have ed and then crying
Speaker 2: in your bosom afterwards. I want you to tell him
Speaker 2: it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: I've had a.
Speaker 2: Couple of Kenny's. It's real soft until it's mushy. Sorry, Kenny,
Speaker 2: I know your type, Papa, can you hear me?
Speaker 4: No, Pap, I was about to do amotion, but I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna do that motion.
Speaker 3: But you know which emotion he will be doing.
Speaker 2: Will you know?
Speaker 3: You know it's not working?
Speaker 2: Okay, girl, the mother has lived Okay, Lenny, Kenny, I
Speaker 2: know exactly what that lady's dealing with. I know exactly
Speaker 2: what that lady with her one captain herself is dealing with.
Speaker 4: But they keep getting on her, and then some people
Speaker 4: in the audience are getting on her for moving across
Speaker 4: the country. For Kenny, I felt that girl was like
Speaker 4: in her twenties, right in maybe early thirties at the oldest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a man, oldest yeah, a.
Speaker 4: Man is paying for you to move to New York City.
Speaker 4: He's putting the bill for everything. You just have to
Speaker 4: come there and be you who wouldn't take that opportunity? Like,
Speaker 4: I feel like people need to be fucking for real,
Speaker 4: and they try to like talk about the decisions that
Speaker 4: these people will make a lot of you guys would
Speaker 4: say yes to that situation if giving given the opportunity, But.
Speaker 2: He would discard Kenny's little friend, the little one with
Speaker 2: the ballhead who's always Gavin. Yeah, he said, No, I know, Kenny,
Speaker 2: He'll change. He'll say move on Tuesday and change the
Speaker 2: mind on Friday. Now you homeless and Dumbo trying to
Speaker 2: make content with your avocado toast. So let's be honest.
Speaker 2: She's not safe. If Kenny has is on his period
Speaker 2: and has a bad moment, that lady is going to
Speaker 2: be unhoused.
Speaker 3: She no, she is not going to be in house.
Speaker 2: She has no house, is being in the airbnb like Amanda.
Speaker 2: But still I could wipe up.
Speaker 4: Look at the end of the day, I say, I
Speaker 4: don't know. I think people need to have their experiences.
Speaker 4: If you're girls, if you're in your twenties and a
Speaker 4: man is like, move over here and it's a cool
Speaker 4: city and he's putting the bill, move.
Speaker 3: Have the experience. If the ship doesn't work out, go
Speaker 3: back home, go back to Ohio or Key.
Speaker 2: Though I think she moved for the TV show. I
Speaker 2: think Kenny said that's even better.
Speaker 6: That's even better, all right, because if we break up,
Speaker 6: I got something out of it.
Speaker 5: I could use my tears to get other people to Brittany.
Speaker 2: From the valley because Jazz literally Brittany being with a
Speaker 2: man that we knew it was not gonna it was
Speaker 2: not gonna last with. It's her entire story arc. She
Speaker 2: has no career outside of choosing the wrong man and
Speaker 2: then riding it for ten years.
Speaker 4: She literally went to find Jack's in Las Vegas, made
Speaker 4: sure she was in his vicinity so that she could
Speaker 4: seduce him and get on. Listen, Brittany was playing a very,
Speaker 4: very long game, and now look at her. She's on
Speaker 4: the valley, and where's Jack's not on the valley?
Speaker 2: She pulled an Amanda. She actually successfully pulled off what Amanda.
Speaker 3: Was trying to pull off her impact because.
Speaker 6: You girl said that Amanda chased down Kyle warn down.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, the same thing. And I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 2: I spoke to someone in the industry I will not
Speaker 2: share too much who said, you know, there was rumblings
Speaker 2: about how Samiyah and Porscha stopped being friends for a
Speaker 2: little bit, and it wasn't until Porscha was gonna do
Speaker 2: Housewives for the first season that her newly reunited friend.
Speaker 2: Shamida came into the fray like, oh hey, friend, it's
Speaker 2: been a while. They reunited Porsha's first season, and there
Speaker 2: are theories that there was a long game of if
Speaker 2: we've reunited and I've known you since we were kids,
Speaker 2: then I can edge my way in and it worked.
Speaker 2: There's a long history of people who just happened to reconcile.
Speaker 2: Amanda was the same way. Amanda and Kay had dated previously,
Speaker 2: broke up, and she circled the block on him when
Speaker 2: he got summer House. This is a popular scheme that
Speaker 2: is now happening so much we're starting to pull out
Speaker 2: the white board and be like, there's a couple of
Speaker 2: y'all who just like to rekindle with people before they
Speaker 2: had their first season on a good show. And then
Speaker 2: you ride that wave until that person is your enemy
Speaker 2: or gone and you're so relevant. It happens more than
Speaker 2: we realize.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 6: That's interesting because in my interview with Smia, great interview, Carlos,
Speaker 6: Thank you baby, I was shocked that she revealed that
Speaker 6: they were friends as teenagers. They were not best these
Speaker 6: are her words, Jasmin. They were not best friends as teenagers.
Speaker 6: Porsia was closer to Smia's sister, and now she said
Speaker 6: it the red cup and then she said, so Shemia's
Speaker 6: tomline was they reconnected after Porscha divorced Cordell, which happened
Speaker 6: between the high five and six, and she said, then
Speaker 6: we became the best of friends.
Speaker 2: No convenient, this.
Speaker 3: Is news to me.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed you so much, Kelly, Oh my gosh, what's
Speaker 2: the name Shania Amanda. There's a there's a whole list
Speaker 2: of people who tend to double invest once there's a
Speaker 2: Bravo camera following you around as a friend of and
Speaker 2: then they had their turn. So Brittany to me is
Speaker 2: the third person on that list of people who played
Speaker 2: the long game. I think when we look back, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of folks who played the long game, like
Speaker 2: that girl who said I'm so and so from Clark
Speaker 2: and nobody.
Speaker 3: Cared Yovanah from Clark. I was that bitch. I was Vannah.
Speaker 2: From Don't Nobody.
Speaker 3: Carel you are you are?
Speaker 4: You're in sight your I don't know your brain works
Speaker 4: because there all the tempts. Were we not talking about
Speaker 4: that yesterday?
Speaker 3: Carlos?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Somebody spirit Blue was Blue was live with us in spirit.
Speaker 6: A lot of this was said yesterday too. You you
Speaker 6: did mention mother Herbard. So obviously she is seen as
Speaker 6: like the face of in the City. She's a force multiplier.
Speaker 6: What no, I'm saying, I'm you know, I'm a newbie.
Speaker 6: I'm saying that when when the girls talk about Summer
Speaker 6: House in the City, they said to me, bitch, Lindsey
Speaker 6: is everything to them.
Speaker 5: They think she's fantastic.
Speaker 6: What we did see on the fourth and final reunion
Speaker 6: with Summer House was Lindsay telling Amanda, we were winning, bitch,
Speaker 6: we were winning.
Speaker 5: Is Lindsay?
Speaker 6: Uh, Like, what's the future of Lindsay if West and
Speaker 6: Amanda's not on Summer House and she sees the long
Speaker 6: game of I Need a Hit spin off? And is
Speaker 6: that in Jeopardy now?
Speaker 2: Carl? Don't try to try to pretend she's thinking about
Speaker 2: getting back with poor Carl. She's probably gonna keep dating
Speaker 2: random Kentucky on tour. Lindsay's with the ships.
Speaker 3: Uh, let me say something.
Speaker 4: If she pulls some shit with Carl and acts like
Speaker 4: she's thinking about Carl again, I will give that bit
Speaker 4: her things because but like I said, it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: how I feel about her what I know about her.
Speaker 4: She is dedicated to being a very good reality TV
Speaker 4: star that I would respect that play. I would respect that.
Speaker 4: It will be very transparent, very transparent, but it's still work.
Speaker 2: Some people are so oupacious, honestly, I call I know.
Speaker 2: I compared Lindsey to Porsche. It's almost like if Porsche's
Speaker 2: nine lives, because Porscha, I think, is exceptional as she's
Speaker 2: the madonna of this shit. That lady has retraded herself
Speaker 2: every forty five episodes. It's a new Porsche, and I'm
Speaker 2: kind of here for it. Okay, at first I was
Speaker 2: judging in about the underground railroad Porsche, you won me over.
Speaker 2: I'm so Porsia has nine lives, but she has Nini's ferocity.
Speaker 2: If you were to blow up a building with Nini
Speaker 2: and it, Nini would walk out the building talking about
Speaker 2: I need a new wig, like she's you can't, you can't,
Speaker 2: you can't destroy Nini. And so I think because Lindsay
Speaker 2: is so hungry in a way respectfully that I only
Speaker 2: see with the super super rich whites and the Atlanta Girls.
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Girls are heard to kill right, and Lindsay
Speaker 2: has that same hoot spot. So anything Lindsay is a
Speaker 2: part of it. She's gonna go down with the ship. Child.
Speaker 2: She's not jumping off anytime soon. I love her for
Speaker 2: I actually think for Lindsay, she's the perfect definition of
Speaker 2: respect because she proves that you don't have to like
Speaker 2: someone to respect their gangster.
Speaker 3: Because here I am giving her her things.
Speaker 2: And you don't like her.
Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even like dislike her. I
Speaker 3: just like the mother Hobber.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm hating a little bit because I just feel
Speaker 4: like the mother Hubber, like really like, that's that's what
Speaker 4: y'all are giving her. I didn't think it gave that.
Speaker 4: I never thought it gave mother, but it could. I
Speaker 4: could be hated right.
Speaker 2: For the for the whites. It's hilarious because you were like,
Speaker 2: excuse me, honey, this is ghost. It's very much the
Speaker 2: Champagne is burnt mother. She called you move over reach, Lindsay. Okay,
Speaker 2: she saw your marble counter and she doesn't give a damn.
Speaker 4: I lived for the apartment, Lindsay. I did live for
Speaker 4: the diggsroll. If you get together, send me an invite.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 4: We could actually talk about this in person. I could
Speaker 4: tell you how I feel for real in person.
Speaker 6: Lindsey and Kennye have the best New York City apartments
Speaker 6: on the show. Yeah, it's like insanely like, I'm like,
Speaker 6: how much money are y'all making?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, I've started to wonder that ever since that Marble counter, Like, seriously,
Speaker 2: that counter fucked up with my brain chemistry.
Speaker 6: No, okay, So what we do know is that, allegedly,
Speaker 6: according to court documents, Juice so Dora in her fifth
Speaker 6: season on a Housewife Franchise is making twenty six thousand
Speaker 6: dollars an episode. So that's five seasons and it's a
Speaker 6: housewife franchise, right, So, and we calculate the summer house
Speaker 6: cast that show has been on for how long?
Speaker 5: Ten years?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a housewife franchise hit. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So do we think after okay, Drew made that in
Speaker 6: five years, double the time for the summer house cast.
Speaker 5: Could they be making around that number per episode?
Speaker 3: You wouldn't know better than us.
Speaker 5: I know it's a summer staple.
Speaker 2: How do you guys quantify the summer staples? Though? Because
Speaker 2: House because the thing is the summer shows. It's the
Speaker 2: big dog of the summer for Ravo, it's what keeps
Speaker 2: It's like the connective tissue that is between the June
Speaker 2: and September space. And so if you are the juggernaut
Speaker 2: of the season where there's no other competition that gives
Speaker 2: you leverage a little.
Speaker 5: Bit, yeah, I would say this.
Speaker 6: It's it's one of those things where I think they
Speaker 6: could be making around thirty to forty thousand.
Speaker 3: So for sure, absolutely, I don't know that.
Speaker 4: I don't know that I believe anybody on Summer House
Speaker 4: makes more than a fifth year Housewife. I just don't
Speaker 4: know if I if I personally because they're not, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, again, this is just this is literally me just
Speaker 4: making assumptions. This is me literally making an assumption. But
Speaker 4: like you know, Summerhouse was in jeopardy for like multiple seasons,
Speaker 4: like they were not. They just started kind of like
Speaker 4: being like the girl for a Bravo in like the
Speaker 4: last couple of seasons if I'm remembering correctly, Like I
Speaker 4: think their earlier seasons they weren't really like pulling in
Speaker 4: numbers like that. And so I feel like there are
Speaker 4: season ten while it is ten seasons a fifth year
Speaker 4: housewife on the Real Housewives of Atlanta, I think could
Speaker 4: still pull in more money than even a VET on
Speaker 4: Summer House in their ten season.
Speaker 2: Allegedly they make allegedly just it's all just allegedly right,
Speaker 2: and these are always so interesting and wrong, but it's
Speaker 2: always fun to still look they're saying, they're saying that
Speaker 2: the high end is in the twenties, so it seems
Speaker 2: that it's about juice door actually end up being doing
Speaker 2: that math a Drew on a big show, it's probably
Speaker 2: a Kyle on a small show, okay episode, And they
Speaker 2: have long seasons the entire summer, So think about they're
Speaker 2: getting more more bang than a lot of the other
Speaker 2: shows because they're eating up the entire summer on Summerhouse.
Speaker 4: And Lindsay's money is not it's not just Summerhouse, like
Speaker 4: she is a brand deal like their brands.
Speaker 2: They get all the high like the high brand deals
Speaker 2: like Buffalo Wild Wings was trying to get let a
Speaker 2: mand to do nothing, Yes, give us nothing, and she's
Speaker 2: getting a check for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that they were because they there was a
Speaker 4: season where they were like upset with Lindsay about it
Speaker 4: because then once she announced her pregnancy, didn't she do
Speaker 4: it like a partnership with like clearly.
Speaker 2: Sponsored. She'sa liked Yeah, hey, you should shout out the club.
Speaker 2: Where's my check?
Speaker 3: Is a brand deal.
Speaker 5: Page? What's the other girl's name?
Speaker 2: Pages? The Juggernaut with the with the young white girls
Speaker 2: in the podcast realms. She's on the podcast tour making
Speaker 2: a shit ton of money.
Speaker 4: Giglely squat and I saw her for three days straight
Speaker 4: during Amazon Prime Day.
Speaker 3: Every time I got on TikTok, she was on there.
Speaker 2: That's one thing I will say is that these kids
Speaker 2: know how to play the brand game. H they do.
Speaker 6: According to the same sources of Blue Tulouzma's this is
Speaker 6: all alleged, so they're saying that during her Summer House
Speaker 6: tenure she was making between ten and twenty thousand per episode,
Speaker 6: but due to her Juggernaut multi million dollar empire, they're
Speaker 6: saying that she is making well over a million dollars
Speaker 6: just based on that those deals in the podcast and
Speaker 6: shorts alone. What I will say, being the podcast Space two.
Speaker 2: It's way more than Bravo respectfully.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, they make way more money than.
Speaker 5: They did being on the show.
Speaker 6: And on top of that, look Lindsey reminds me a competitor.
Speaker 6: I now can see because again this when my producer
Speaker 6: brain comes in knowing how sorry Raindrops, all the cast
Speaker 6: members are in competition with each other. I know you
Speaker 6: want to things of sisterhood. I'm not saying it is not. However,
Speaker 6: they care more about the hierarchy than being friends off
Speaker 6: the show.
Speaker 2: The call sheet. Who's number one on the call sheet?
Speaker 5: Oh? Orsh's the number one call sheet in Atlanta And
Speaker 5: y'all have to deal with that for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 6: So you think about Lindsey, I now can understand why
Speaker 6: I amanding West to y'all point. If I'm on a
Speaker 6: show with these girls Paige Disorder by whatever her name is,
Speaker 6: and I'm seeing what she's making not having to expose
Speaker 6: her life shoot twenty four hours a day doing a
Speaker 6: house reality show, I would want to make sure that
Speaker 6: a scandal equates me to make money outside of it.
Speaker 6: And that's why, unfortunately Amanda and West not being back
Speaker 6: on Summer House, their pockets are going to diminish because
Speaker 6: if we go down the subject of brands, are brands.
Speaker 5: Going to mess with them?
Speaker 6: Now that they have they don't have that attachment of
Speaker 6: a show with them.
Speaker 4: Well, West has a sports podcast, so I think he's
Speaker 4: I think he'll be okay. Allegedly, Amanda is a trust
Speaker 4: funk kid, so she I mean, even if she does
Speaker 4: have a trust fund, she was always gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: Her her parents have money. But yeah, she but I
Speaker 4: said this. When it came out, everybody's like they just
Speaker 4: ruined their lives. I'm like, everybody involved is going to
Speaker 4: be okay. Financially.
Speaker 3: None of these people are going to go hungry.
Speaker 4: None of these people are gonna go hungry, so they
Speaker 4: will eat just fine without Summerhouse. I think West is
Speaker 4: going to be probably even better than Amanda because he
Speaker 4: can pivot more into the sports world and they don't
Speaker 4: give a shit that he.
Speaker 2: Currency is also different too, because I think we're thinking,
Speaker 2: here's the thing, can we be honest for a second,
Speaker 2: Can we be honest at black people in this space
Speaker 2: and white people in this space have a very different
Speaker 2: conversation about what they're seiling is. I've had so many
Speaker 2: people tell me, what's that joke that Kevin Hart used
Speaker 2: to say? Like, Hey, you know, I thought I was
Speaker 2: doing well because I was black famous, and then I
Speaker 2: realized my neighbor was a dentist. It don't really. It's
Speaker 2: not the same as being white famous, like what you
Speaker 2: would do. I have a bunch of number one movies,
Speaker 2: I clean teeth right, and I think it's the same
Speaker 2: thing when it comes to content creation. When I talk
Speaker 2: to black people in the content creation space, our numbers
Speaker 2: are drastically different than the most mediocre Amanda. And the
Speaker 2: thing about West is he was getting in trouble because
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff he wouldn't want to talk about
Speaker 2: on a Bravo he was saving for his podcast. Is
Speaker 2: if he was trying to lure people to his podcast.
Speaker 2: So he's already been working on luring the fan base
Speaker 2: over to him since before he was ushered out and
Speaker 2: decided to go focus on his family and his dogs
Speaker 2: or whatever the hell his statement was gonna say. So,
Speaker 2: I think for me and West is mine, he wanted
Speaker 2: to be I'm gonna be honest. If you are an
Speaker 2: F boy. This helps his brand as an F boy.
Speaker 5: Someone told me that too.
Speaker 2: By the way, this helps his brand as the ultimate
Speaker 2: F boy who destroyed all this stuff, like he will
Speaker 2: be fine, Amanda. Her currency was not money, it was relevance.
Speaker 2: I think she might buckle under obscurity. It might break
Speaker 2: her heart and send her to a depression that she
Speaker 2: is now back to being as irrelevant as she was
Speaker 2: when she was in you know, Kyle's phone playing with him.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And you also have to think about the gender dynamics,
Speaker 4: like West is a man, like they generally recover a
Speaker 4: lot faster in these sorts of situations because he's not
Speaker 4: looked at as like the dirty person like and again,
Speaker 4: yeah he's a bro, he's in sports. Like like I said, yeah,
Speaker 4: West is going to be fine. He's gonna recover a
Speaker 4: lot faster and a lot bigger than Amanda. But he
Speaker 4: did say in that White Boar, White whatever interview that
Speaker 4: in a couple of years he could see himself in
Speaker 4: Amanda's backyard. I don't know what that means, because like
Speaker 4: if you years, like, why wouldn't it be like.
Speaker 3: Y'all's backyard together? Like are you gonna be in her
Speaker 3: backyard doing what everybody?
Speaker 2: Because she got mad and snapped. Look, you better be
Speaker 2: careful how you manifest West. You might get that I'm
Speaker 2: already Amanda's gonna you know, here's the thing, I'm so
Speaker 2: worried a man that's gonna pull a tailor swift. Remember
Speaker 2: when Tels was being called a snake. You just disappear
Speaker 2: and come back and say I went to therapy. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, this is my redemption.
Speaker 5: Art Kanye and Kim expose that phone call.
Speaker 2: I'm a phoenix rising. Am I the problem? She could
Speaker 2: really do that, Like that's a thing that women like
Speaker 2: that have done really well for decades. Right, So all, Amanda,
Speaker 2: god do is take a nap for the summer and
Speaker 2: come back next year and act like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I want to rehab. I realized that I have a
Speaker 2: borderline personnelity. Whatever the SOB story is. You're so brave, Amanda,
Speaker 2: You're so bravy. I wasn't mean. It's my former self blue.
Speaker 4: She couldn't come back and be like I realized I
Speaker 4: was a covert narcissist, and like you should do.
Speaker 3: You should do her speech, like her comeback speech.
Speaker 5: You will be actually good. Why aren't you? Why aren't
Speaker 5: you in crisis management?
Speaker 2: I actually already am.
Speaker 5: Oh that's you.
Speaker 3: You sure did?
Speaker 5: You did? You would never know my clientele.
Speaker 4: Just know that I have, Amanda, I already am Amanda.
Speaker 5: What he knows what I'm talking to?
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, he's so brilliant, so brilliant.
Speaker 6: So to that point, Amanda, if you or if you're listening,
Speaker 6: would give me.
Speaker 3: A client, yes you, maybe that check is gonna clear.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I already clear, it was clear, the check were clear,
Speaker 2: and I actually already know the script to write. She's
Speaker 2: exactly the kind of person that's the easiest to do.
Speaker 5: Crisis management for Why why you say that.
Speaker 2: Because we're already predisposed to feel sympathy for her. So
Speaker 2: she has to do is to the right strings and
Speaker 2: it all unravels and is up for her.
Speaker 4: Take some accountability, because that's what everybody's been claiming they
Speaker 4: want from her.
Speaker 2: And there's a certain way to faint accountabil Unfortunately I've
Speaker 2: had to help you with. There's a certain way to
Speaker 2: feinne accountability that's actually really impactful.
Speaker 5: What does too much?
Speaker 6: I'm so intrigued by this.
Speaker 3: You are really.
Speaker 2: I am a ghost in the machine.
Speaker 5: Okay, stay that way, girl, go So during election season.
Speaker 2: My phone rings at weird hours of the night, Like
Speaker 2: there's a lot of weird ship that happens our election season.
Speaker 3: So you're Olivia Pope for real?
Speaker 2: For Olivia.
Speaker 6: Nope, No, we're not doing that well, ladies. What does
Speaker 6: this all now mean for Sierra? Sierra is on a high,
Speaker 6: she has all the brand deals, She's on Love Island.
Speaker 6: Now that Amanda and West are not a part of
Speaker 6: Summer House, what does her future look like? Is there
Speaker 6: is there any concern with Okay, Sierra, what do you
Speaker 6: do now now that you don't have this couple on?
Speaker 6: Who were your who's your ex? Who's your ex best friend?
Speaker 6: What's the storyline?
Speaker 5: What? What?
Speaker 6: What does the era need to be doing to make
Speaker 6: sure that the audience doesn't say, hmmm without them? I
Speaker 6: don't know if you're that interesting to like maintain our
Speaker 6: fan base.
Speaker 2: You know who else wasn't that interesting? Uh? Arianna and
Speaker 2: she's fine. Arianna was the most boring person on that show,
Speaker 2: except for when she was randomly working when she was drunk,
Speaker 2: and she's Sierra's already been crowned the next Ariana. We
Speaker 2: don't have to wonder, We've already watched it happen. She's
Speaker 2: not going to be the host with the cheeky little
Speaker 2: barbs like oh, don't get betrayed by your best friend,
Speaker 2: Like she's always gonna be that girl who gets to
Speaker 2: do cute little digs while while giving us nothing.
Speaker 4: Which is like, don't do that, like, don't make a
Speaker 4: career out of doing that, because it's like, E ain't
Speaker 4: gonna lie. It was getting old for me already. I
Speaker 4: was just like, girl, we get it. Just do your thing,
Speaker 4: like do your you know what I'm saying, do your
Speaker 4: big ones.
Speaker 2: You're you're on.
Speaker 4: After some bitch, You're m Fiji. You don't need to
Speaker 4: keep harping on these bitches that are still in the
Speaker 4: Hampton's Like, let's move forward. That is my fear for Sierra, though,
Speaker 4: Carlos to your point that she comes back, because I
Speaker 4: feel like Sierra if so. Allegedly allegedly, allegedly, the same
Speaker 4: sources that talked about like the new cast moving forward,
Speaker 4: broke that West was out, broke that Amanda was out.
Speaker 4: They said that Sierra is coming back to Summer House,
Speaker 4: but like in a like kind of making appearances capacity,
Speaker 4: so she's not gonna be.
Speaker 3: There every weekend.
Speaker 4: But my thing with Sierra, you have to come back
Speaker 4: and you have to have something like you have to
Speaker 4: be the most interesting bitch when you walk into that house,
Speaker 4: because if you're not, people are gonna be like you
Speaker 4: were only interesting when you were attached to a man,
Speaker 4: because that's been her storyline. She gets she was brought
Speaker 4: to the show by a man, right, so that's been
Speaker 4: the thing.
Speaker 2: That white man very specifically, so her being the interracial
Speaker 2: data yet the entire dame.
Speaker 4: So she has to come back like she has to
Speaker 4: come back like flaunting after somen like she has to
Speaker 4: just come back with something else other than her relationship.
Speaker 4: And if she comes back with like a love interest,
Speaker 4: it doesn't I was gonna say, he has to be
Speaker 4: like a man of status, but like she wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2: You gotta be black girl, just saying if he's a
Speaker 2: black man, it's a whole new world. Due so seriously,
Speaker 2: Sierra with a black man, everybody shows back up like
Speaker 2: it's bro Like, what's this? I don't think that's her.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's her.
Speaker 2: An applied. This is where the fixer comes in. Do
Speaker 2: it for the plot, Okay, if if, if Damnseon, do it.
Speaker 6: But do we think Era again, do we think se
Speaker 6: Era is into black men?
Speaker 2: No? She said, oh love Island after son. Last week
Speaker 2: she said, seeing your first white penis is a right
Speaker 2: of passage. I had to get up. I said, now, girl,
Speaker 2: you are never beating the allegations, baby, like a right.
Speaker 4: Of passage into like well like one oh.
Speaker 2: Because you know that the biggest scheme on Love Island
Speaker 2: and this is a scam, by the way, is they're
Speaker 2: trying to do Tim Nikolandria. So the girl who is
Speaker 2: now seen as the fave, her friends were literally in
Speaker 2: the comments before the premiere saying, watch how Olandria, your
Speaker 2: replacement is coming. She walked in there wanting to be
Speaker 2: the next Landria and then trendy and got with the
Speaker 2: first white boy who looked like Nick's leftovers, and now
Speaker 2: they're the fave. And then so when she said, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I've missing him, I saw white penis for
Speaker 2: the first time. Sierra's response to that was, it's a
Speaker 2: rite of passage, Darling, I said, oh, baby.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's unpack that.
Speaker 2: Is it a rite of passage?
Speaker 5: How do we feel about that statement?
Speaker 6: Is it listens as a black?
Speaker 2: Is your husband black or white?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 2: I have? Idea?
Speaker 4: But but what what color do you think my husband is?
Speaker 3: Just take a guess, black with an interesting background.
Speaker 5: Blue is good? Yeah, blue perfect description.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very Yeah, he's a software engineer.
Speaker 3: He has a degree in finance. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So because you're black with an interesting back, I said, okay,
Speaker 2: we see each other. We do we do? We do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I think I'm sitting here because I'm just like, well,
Speaker 4: I mean I have I have. I'm talking lower, I
Speaker 4: have seen many are white. Is in the room, he
Speaker 4: is in the home.
Speaker 3: He is in the home.
Speaker 2: Okay, carlosn't breakup happy homes. I know reality.
Speaker 6: The good thing is he does not subscribe to reality
Speaker 6: with the Kings that were good.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, okay, good. We can talk.
Speaker 4: Okay, he won't see he won't see this or hear
Speaker 4: this unless I personally send it to But also he knows,
Speaker 4: he knows everything about me and my past lives, So.
Speaker 2: He knows, Laurel everything.
Speaker 3: You're saying like you know something, No, it's just everything.
Speaker 2: A guy stopped taking my calls after I made an
Speaker 2: appearance somewhere. I was like, oh, he didn't like the interview.
Speaker 2: Did I scare him? And so you gotta he saw something.
Speaker 2: And we ain't talked since. Let me tell you, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say too much because I don't know what
Speaker 2: else he's still watching. But here's the thing. I'm very
Speaker 2: different romantically than I am on these shows. Okay on
Speaker 2: the camera, because I get paid to you. I'm a
Speaker 2: fucking daffodil romantically. So the men thic I'm demure and
Speaker 2: then they get some Wi fi and then like it was, oh,
Speaker 2: oh wow, where did all that come from?
Speaker 6: So yeah, I remember, I'm sorry, I now remember what.
Speaker 5: You Okay, okay, he got scared of my power.
Speaker 6: Say too much watch and you really just say let
Speaker 6: me stop it?
Speaker 2: He said, oh my god, and it's important jazz I
Speaker 2: met when I said so, I can't even apologize because
Speaker 2: I meant that ship. So now we're stuck looking at
Speaker 2: each other like, yeah I said that ship. No seriously,
Speaker 2: you know, what's his name, Felicia deg what's his name?
Speaker 2: His real name? When that guy Carmichael was like, yo,
Speaker 2: I used to like you and now you know you
Speaker 2: never he was like, yeah, I did say that ship.
Speaker 2: I'm one of those like I'm not gonna yeah.
Speaker 3: I said it, so now what damn.
Speaker 5: That's my ray would never see this. That's why the
Speaker 5: good thing. This is a good thing. But okay, so girls,
Speaker 5: the last thing is this.
Speaker 2: This was fast. I have so much fun with y'all quickly.
Speaker 2: I know, I keep forgetting that we all are on
Speaker 2: camera though, remember me different. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: I'm like, wait a second, almost, I got a red cup?
Speaker 2: No makeup? What show is?
Speaker 3: We're just hanging out. We're just hanging out.
Speaker 5: Well that's why we love you, Okay.
Speaker 6: So last point to make what is the future of
Speaker 6: Amanda and West not that they both aren't coming back
Speaker 6: to summer house. Are they going to stay together or
Speaker 6: does West now have an out to be like it
Speaker 6: didn't work, Let's just break up and let let let's
Speaker 6: hope people forgot about this nightmare we were living.
Speaker 4: I'll go, I'll go first. I think they will probably
Speaker 4: stay together for the rest of this year. For sure,
Speaker 4: they're going to be together for the rest of this year.
Speaker 4: It's about to July, yep, so they're going to be together.
Speaker 4: It would be very poetic to get a separation statement
Speaker 4: in them in January.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I would pay to see that. I would pay some
Speaker 4: money for that to happen. So yeah, but I do.
Speaker 4: I definitely think it's gonna be a West and Amanda
Speaker 4: twenty seven. I don't know, it depends on how their
Speaker 4: careers recover. If Amanda is gonna come back to the City,
Speaker 4: If the City gets a second season and Amanda is
Speaker 4: gonna go back to that and West can move over
Speaker 4: to in the City, then I think they will say
Speaker 4: together longer. But if he's a persona non grata also
Speaker 4: on in the City, then yeah, he could use it
Speaker 4: as an out. But I'm curious to know Blue what
Speaker 4: you predict.
Speaker 2: I agree that they're not breaking up anytime soon. Amanda
Speaker 2: does not like to be wrong. She will stay on
Speaker 2: a sinking ship until the last hurrah, and so I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be together for at least this time
Speaker 2: next year. And also, I do fear that you might
Speaker 2: be calling one of my ilk a fixer who's gonna
Speaker 2: tell her to disappear and come back brand new, and
Speaker 2: that she might even try to do a anti hero
Speaker 2: story arc of well, fuck it, y'all didn't like it
Speaker 2: when I was trying to be the nice girl, then
Speaker 2: let me just tell you what my reality looks like now,
Speaker 2: and that she's people have done that and that actually
Speaker 2: works just as well as apologizing sometimes. So she's either
Speaker 2: could have come back and pull a Taylor's with and
Speaker 2: be like, oh, no, it might the problem and kind
Speaker 2: of be cheeky about it, or she's gonna lead into
Speaker 2: it and say, well, I'm still with him, and if
Speaker 2: this is how I found the love of my life,
Speaker 2: then so be it. But I don't see her ever
Speaker 2: admitting this was a mistake while he's still around. Because
Speaker 2: here's the thing that we got corrected. We thought, because
Speaker 2: of when the episodes were released, that she had just
Speaker 2: come from Italy when they did the fourth episode The
Speaker 2: rain Drops. Later told me, no, Blue, she went to
Speaker 2: Italy after all that that talk with Lindsay. So the
Speaker 2: fact that Lindsay screamed, we were winning, you have to
Speaker 2: let him go, and then you went to Italy. It
Speaker 2: was smooching and impossible. Like Lady in the Tramp, a
Speaker 2: man does not let him go to that man no
Speaker 2: time soon. In the words of Melanie from Love Island, Aha,
Speaker 2: I got my man back. She want.
Speaker 4: I hate it when she did that. I hated when
Speaker 4: she did that. I was like, girl, that ain't that's
Speaker 4: not to be celebrating.
Speaker 2: Pick's biggest win is to be picked. Why would I.
Speaker 3: Send to myself here of all places.
Speaker 4: Right, That's exactly you see. Not not wanting to say
Speaker 4: the N word. I have to re evaluate who I
Speaker 4: am as a person, as a black woman.
Speaker 2: I would say this too, though, Sierra, if you see this,
Speaker 2: please consider just calling Michael B. Jordan's just have her
Speaker 2: just be kissing him on the cheek at Soho house somewhere.
Speaker 2: I'm giving free advice now, I usually charge for this.
Speaker 2: Just one Sierra with any attractive black man, even if
Speaker 2: they're not dating, just hanging out the way she hangs
Speaker 2: out with, calling them, Oh my god, it would be
Speaker 2: it would be a firestorm of interest in her.
Speaker 4: Who's the who's a single who's a single black other
Speaker 4: than him?
Speaker 3: Well? You know the thing is this, that's move?
Speaker 2: I said, Look at Carlos you okay, you see a
Speaker 2: little jealous. Okay, whoa? He said, bitch, I'll cut you.
Speaker 5: We'll text later.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: The thing, I just don't. I don't see it. I
Speaker 5: don't see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he either.
Speaker 5: I mean he's good for and didn't work out either.
Speaker 2: No, but the scheme worked. The scheme was to give
Speaker 2: you twelve months of content and then said, oh we've
Speaker 2: decided to go our own separate way.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know what I forgot?
Speaker 6: You know what Carlos Okay, we're talking about you're talking
Speaker 6: about a pr relationship.
Speaker 5: Apologies.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, mm hmm okay, okay, yes.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, nice visual.
Speaker 6: No totally, but for some reason, the idea of her
Speaker 6: with Michael B. Jordan is like a an Oscar winning actor.
Speaker 2: Who storm of attention for both of them, both of them.
Speaker 2: He's the black man that finally got her to come
Speaker 2: home to her people. It'd be a whole thing.
Speaker 3: And you know what in neither of them his face.
Speaker 2: With the meetings. For those of you who don't understand
Speaker 2: listening to a fixer, these are the kind of conversations
Speaker 2: we have in the meetings, by the way, like I'm
Speaker 2: not even kidding.
Speaker 5: These are because they're a whiteboard as well, there is.
Speaker 2: A white board. Actually, I'm loving lawyers. It's me a
Speaker 2: whiteboard and some lawyers.
Speaker 4: I'm loving the inside because they both are are fighting
Speaker 4: the allegations that they don't like their own people, so
Speaker 4: to get them together very.
Speaker 2: And then they go home to their white partners afterwards,
Speaker 2: everybody say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah ya, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: Look this sounds like an episode of Reasonable Doubt on Hulu.
Speaker 6: So but she's like, you're gonna take a black man,
Speaker 6: so that the audience can fall back and love at
Speaker 6: you that I listen Sierra team, I would say this
Speaker 6: My hope also is this. I hope they also invest
Speaker 6: in Sierra doing interviews with black host you know, and
Speaker 6: and really inserting herself. I was kind of not happy
Speaker 6: she wasn't the BET Awards because I just think there's things.
Speaker 2: I said. It's coming to the BET Awards. Well, that's
Speaker 2: my point, like Carlos, but now for the first time
Speaker 2: watching the show, we can tell I don't.
Speaker 5: But that's my point.
Speaker 6: I'm like, the black audience, Discovery are rediscovering you, and
Speaker 6: we're like, okay, see you know the black folks, we'd
Speaker 6: be like, we marching with your siss So I would
Speaker 6: hope her team would say, in addition to look, in
Speaker 6: addition to the American Music Awards, we gotta go.
Speaker 2: To the.
Speaker 5: Lake CP Soul Trained.
Speaker 2: Carlos fired, No.
Speaker 5: The Soul Train Awards.
Speaker 4: Well, Essence Fest is coming up. Let's see if she
Speaker 4: makes an appear with.
Speaker 2: The gunbowing them.
Speaker 3: Here, here's the thing we got, we gotta We are
Speaker 3: not a monolith. Right.
Speaker 2: If she definitely is it, maybe she's not doing all that.
Speaker 3: If she's a sister. She gotta be. The culture has
Speaker 3: to welcome her in.
Speaker 2: We love her where she is.
Speaker 3: I don't she I'm just no, go ahead, Carlos, go ahead.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask Blue as Olivia. Note.
Speaker 6: Okay, you are in a meeting with Sierra Miller her
Speaker 6: entire team who doesn't look like you, which includes agents, managers, publicist.
Speaker 5: And lawyers.
Speaker 2: I always insist the lawyer's be president. Huh.
Speaker 5: Okay, we love a legal note.
Speaker 6: Now, would you encourage Sierra Okay, Carlos King black asses
Speaker 6: notice who you are, and he's like it to you.
Speaker 5: You have a black audience.
Speaker 6: Now, would you encourage her to attend a few black events?
Speaker 2: I would encourage her to pick one black event with
Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan that sets the tone, and not to
Speaker 2: lay it on too thick or they'll immediately know it's
Speaker 2: a scam.
Speaker 5: Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2: It would have to be something like the NAACP Award
Speaker 2: where he's coming to bring something home to his people,
Speaker 2: and it's like it has to be something where it's
Speaker 2: so bigly black, but he's so beloved by that crowd.
Speaker 2: It's almost like he's the trojan horse for her.
Speaker 3: Y'all are playing, and here's a clean.
Speaker 2: Look on Jasmine's face. The look on your face is
Speaker 2: exactly the point, because half of them are going to
Speaker 2: be like yo, no, damnier cap, and the other half
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like yes this, yes clean, like those
Speaker 2: two opposing groups. What you always want to do is
Speaker 2: you want to get the poposing groups to have a
Speaker 2: strong stance that people can say. I can see both sides.
Speaker 2: I can see both sides of a pr win. I'm
Speaker 2: currently getting death threats right now, Love Island fans and
Speaker 2: my commentsar ay, I'll saying died, died, died. I can
Speaker 2: see both sides. Okay, I did my job. It means
Speaker 2: I have substance and you were triggered. And now my
Speaker 2: my CPMs are through the roof.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: She's about to buy me another townhouse. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: that ship works. I she stopped talking. What is it?
Speaker 2: This cup?
Speaker 4: I feel like I thought it was interesting. I know
Speaker 4: we're we're over, but did you guys.
Speaker 2: See my staff? I have to get back to work.
Speaker 4: Did you guys see A couple of weeks ago, when
Speaker 4: Candice Dealer Basket said she bumped into Sierra at the
Speaker 4: Culture Awards and she said was dry and cold and stuff.
Speaker 4: And I was like, that's interesting because I know and
Speaker 4: this is this is not me trying to pile on
Speaker 4: to Sier or anything, but that was that was literally
Speaker 4: like what people said about her before this happened. They
Speaker 4: were calling her a mean girl. They said her page
Speaker 4: the bad bugs were mean to the other girls and
Speaker 4: they came into the house. So when Candace said that
Speaker 4: Sierra wasn't next her, and maybe think back to the
Speaker 4: reunion too, when Sierra was sitting on that stage and
Speaker 4: Andy asked her, what is a single mea like? And
Speaker 4: Sierra goes, she she loves to talk to everybody. She
Speaker 4: loves to pick up Astray every time we're out. I'm like,
Speaker 4: can you can you come back to our group? Why
Speaker 4: are you talking to everybody? So when Candace said Sierra
Speaker 4: was was cold to her at the Culture Awards, I
Speaker 4: was like, are there is there merit to the mean
Speaker 4: girl thing?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: So I've said anxiety, I think with Sierra's social anxiety.
Speaker 3: Okay, I was.
Speaker 2: You when you're when you're social, and Sierra will will
Speaker 2: sit there and like kind of freeze and smile, look
Speaker 2: pretty social anxiety. But go ahead, I love.
Speaker 4: I love the explanation for that. I love that Maybe
Speaker 4: that's the case.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the case.
Speaker 4: Was like, I'm talking, plea cops please, was cops all right?
Speaker 4: But I'm saying this because I also I don't want
Speaker 4: my messages. I don't want nobody tell me to die
Speaker 4: about this ship. Okay, I'm simply just run.
Speaker 2: From the pace. I'm very sense PM. They got a
Speaker 2: pay to tell you to die. So it's like they
Speaker 2: don't understand you're paying me to keep talking.
Speaker 5: Are you not entertained? Always think about that, Jazz.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Hate being hate watched is a mind melt when you
Speaker 2: realize someone can hate watch you into another tax bracket. Wow,
Speaker 2: it's the wildest thing.
Speaker 6: They can hate that on my laptop every time I
Speaker 6: log on, Like, let hate watching for real.
Speaker 4: Every every time you see a comment that is calling
Speaker 4: you everything but a child of God?
Speaker 3: Paragraphs hate you can what what did you say? Hate
Speaker 3: watch me into another tax bracket?
Speaker 2: Last year they hate watched me into a different tax bracket.
Speaker 3: I love that hate watched me into you know, ten thousand.
Speaker 2: I will say this, Bichael B. Jordan example, because of
Speaker 2: what Jasmon said, I'm happy you wrought this up when
Speaker 2: you are a woman. She's a Capricorn too. For the
Speaker 2: strategy girls. You know, Capricorn women always come off a
Speaker 2: little bit stern, and as they get older they become
Speaker 2: more fun. So as a stern faced Capricorn woman with
Speaker 2: social anxiety who doesn't already feel safe or seen in
Speaker 2: black spaces because you know that you're being judged for
Speaker 2: having a proclivity for white men, being with the fun,
Speaker 2: lovable favorite son of the black community is a nice offset.
Speaker 2: Sweet golden retriever men and stern kitty cat. That's the
Speaker 2: whole thing. On TikTok. Stern cat girls and golden retrieve
Speaker 2: of men are the optimate couple for a power couple.
Speaker 2: Look at Barack and Michelle, another Capricorn. She sees a
Speaker 2: little bit of stern, but because he's lovely and charming,
Speaker 2: he immediately becomes softened when they're next to each other,
Speaker 2: because you're like, damn, she's probably keeping him check. We
Speaker 2: love him, but he probably gets to her nerves. She's
Speaker 2: probably the reason why the bills get paid. Like, it's
Speaker 2: a good disposition that we're used to socially. So I
Speaker 2: would say, if I wasn't a fixer honestly would have
Speaker 2: to be someone like a Michael B. Jordan, who's a
Speaker 2: people pleaser, who's warm, who's proud of being black, who
Speaker 2: constantly mentions it, whose mother's in the industry, and I'm
Speaker 2: doing it for my mother, So you know, he's already
Speaker 2: tested to loving black women in that way, even though
Speaker 2: he doesn't date them necessarily, right because snow a leggor
Speaker 2: in them are not black. So you both get to
Speaker 2: eat off of being a black couple while knowing that
Speaker 2: you could both con bond over your pain around your
Speaker 2: proximity to whiteness. It's actually quite perfect. I'm sending somebody
Speaker 2: an invoice for this, but it's quit.
Speaker 5: I was just about to say blue.
Speaker 6: Please tell Crameller her team how they can get in
Speaker 6: contact with you and what's your cash hap.
Speaker 2: Right the centric admin at gmail dot com If you
Speaker 2: would like to, I do sign in NBA's Don't worry.
Speaker 2: I woul act like I don't know you outside. I've
Speaker 2: never met this man.
Speaker 5: Who are you talking to me? At Valet?
Speaker 6: We did not just have a two hour meeting at
Speaker 6: the at the Polo Lounge.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? There's there's somebody who was very beloved.
Speaker 2: So we would have meetings and then literally we'll get
Speaker 2: to valet and going off to directions and whenever his
Speaker 2: name gets mentioned at dinner parties, I just look at
Speaker 2: the floor.
Speaker 6: Well, Jazz, we're gonna get you to ten thousand subscribers, comment.
Speaker 2: You this has been fun.
Speaker 3: And now I just realized the time I think Blue
Speaker 3: can't hear us?
Speaker 2: Can you hear us?
Speaker 3: Blue?
Speaker 6: Oh, it's a spirit got to her.
Speaker 5: Set? All right, Well look Jazz.
Speaker 3: J Henley Brown.
Speaker 2: Sorry, let go ahead.
Speaker 4: Oh a j Henley Brown everywhere YouTube, TikTok threads, those
Speaker 4: are Instagram. That's where I'm most active. But yeah, definitely
Speaker 4: go subscribe to my YouTube. We have a lot of
Speaker 4: fun over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we should do a thing when we come
Speaker 2: to each other's YouTube on one of these days and Carlos.
Speaker 5: We'll talk all yeah act jazz.
Speaker 6: Jazz would be like hi, can you and I said
Speaker 6: dating time just tell me like whatever.
Speaker 5: That's like whatever you need? So Blue, But do.
Speaker 2: Y'all watch Love Island because my thing is you know,
Speaker 2: I'm already getting jumped. If I do need some.
Speaker 5: Backup, I don't, but I don't watch Love Island. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: but jazz does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 4: I've been in and out this season because I realized
Speaker 4: today I'm too old to be watching it, Like I
Speaker 4: just I'm watching twenty somethings make bad decisions about love
Speaker 4: and I'm like, y'all are dumb and tell. But then
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, I was dumb when I was twenty,
Speaker 4: but like now I'm in my thirties and it's like.
Speaker 3: Me and over and over again.
Speaker 4: Which is completely completely disgusting. But yeah, no, I we
Speaker 4: could definitely talk about Love Islands.
Speaker 5: And live and I can talk, so you can. Hey, no,
Speaker 5: he will.
Speaker 4: He will do it because I had you when they
Speaker 4: were talking about Love is Blind and you weren't watching
Speaker 4: Love is Blind.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she said, let's talk. She said, here's a clip
Speaker 5: watch it and we were talking for an hour.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you sit and watch loves Blind?
Speaker 5: I said, I don't, but hey, I can talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Producer Blue.
Speaker 5: I'm here for you whenever you need me, baby, know.
Speaker 2: That I appreciate it. I'm so happy this because I
Speaker 2: missed y'all so much yesterday, Like I I was, I
Speaker 2: had so much fun on like this is not as
Speaker 2: fun as I So I'm happy that I got next.
Speaker 2: Used to see y'all this week. Shout out to Amanda
Speaker 2: and whatever scheme she's thinking of next. You can find
Speaker 2: me an apt blue centric everywhere. Be nice please, I've
Speaker 2: gone through enough this week.
Speaker 5: And Rain Johns will see the next one.
Speaker 6: Love you Blue, love you Jazz, I'll see you, Lady b.