1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: You know, you had a guy like Philip, you know. Nevertheless, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: I gotta understand it's the system. Understand the game. He 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: puts you on the best position possible, and our whole 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: thing is just trying to be balanced as offense, and 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: we were able to do that and open to drive. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: That was Antonio Gates after scoring the first ever NFL 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: touchdown at StubHub Center. From who else but Philip Rivers everybody. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Chris Harry with you on the Chargers Training Camp podcast. 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: On today's episode, I catch up with safety Trade Boston 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: and former Charger Marcellus Wiley. But first ESPN's Eric Williams 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: joined me to recap Sunday's game and look ahead to 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: join practices this week with the New Orleans Saints. Eric 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: Williams of ESPN joins me the day after the Chargers 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: fall to the Seahawks in their first preseason game of 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: the year, and Eric, the preseason to me is almost 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: several small games played within the compines about three hour 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: NFL game, and I think you need to take a 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: lot of things with the grain assault, especially in the 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: first preseason game forty eight seventeen. You never won give 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: up that many points. But I look at the positives 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: to start. The first team offense comes out there, thirteen 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: plays seventy five yards, drives right down the field, converts 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: three third downs, rivers the gates. Pretty appropriate that those 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: two kind of kick off StubHub Center. Yeah, I mean, 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: I think you're right in some ways. The scores inconsequential. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: You're really kind of trying to evaluate individual players as 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: you put your roster together. But I do think there's 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: there's something to be said about winning two when you 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: haven't won a whole lot past. This is a team 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: that's only won nine games over the last two years, 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: so you definitely want to be competitive, and I'm sure 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: that's something Lynn will consider. But you're right, it was 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: good to see the offense be efficient in that first drive. 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: I think five different people touched the football to spread 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: the ball around. Well, they're able to run the ball efficiently, 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: so they had some balance, which has kind of been 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: a talking point for Lynn. So I like that. And 38 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: then I like some of the special teams play. I 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: thought Lamba making that fifty three yard or was big. 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Also two touchbacks, and then Drew Kayser average fifty seven 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: yards on his three punts, and so that was good 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: to see that both those guys are responding to the 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: challenge in terms of the competition. One last thing, Travis 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: Benjamin big play, seventy four yard TD catch and that's 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: kind of what we've been seeing the training camp. He's 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: been making a lot of big plays. It looks like 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: he's healthy and back to looking explosive, and you hope 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: to see him continue to build on that. Yeah, Eric, 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: we talked about him, I think the first week at 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: camp and just you know how outstanding a camp he's had. 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: And then you know, for Kellen Clemmans to throw that 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: interception and bounce back and hit Benjamin that speed. Philip 53 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: Rivers I think is really going to benefit from having 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: a healthy Travis Benjamin. When you look at Keenan Allen 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry and just really all the weapons they have, 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: I think Benjamin is a real X factor for them, Yeah, 57 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: no doubt. And what it does is it keeps those 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: defenses honest. They can't just kind of key on on 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen in the middle of the field. They have 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: to respect the deep ball, which means to how to 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: playoff a little bit, and so that creates some room 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field for guys like Gates 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: and Henry and Keenan Allen to operate. So if they 64 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: can keep Benjamin healthy and he can give them that 65 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: big playability week in week out, that's going to be 66 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: huge for the offense. It's also huge for the running 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: game too. Melvin Gordon defenses can't sit at the line 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Again, they have to loose them up a 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: little bit. Oh absolutely. And again the game plans are 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: very vanilla in preseason, so we see Melvin Gordon for 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: a series. We didn't really see the running game pop. 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: But it's it's something where you have to game momentum 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: from series to series. It's really hard to to kind 74 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: of sustain that when you're moving guys in and out. 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: In the first preseason game, yeah, that was one of 76 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: the things I was going to touch on in terms 77 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: of things that need improvement, it's just really play at 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage on both sides of the football. Again, 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I think they ran it for seventy two yards maybe 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: average about three yards to carry. That has to be better. 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: They tried to feed Andre a little bit William and 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: he just couldn't get going. And then on the other side. 83 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: The Seahawks ran for one hundred and thirty three rushing yards, 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: were very effective running football, and really we're kind of 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: pushing the line of scrimmage one or two yards towards 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the chargers again against those backups, and so you want 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: to see that that cleaned up moving forward. I think 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: the one thing overall is just what's the identity of 89 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: this team moving forward? You know, what's the identity that 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: coach Swinn is trying to create. I think we saw 91 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: it with the first team in terms of the balance 92 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: on offense and the speed of which the defense played. 93 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was a nice for the defense to 94 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: get off the field and force a field goal. Trevor 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Williamson made a nice tackle out in space against a 96 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: pretty good running quarterback in Russell Wilson in order to 97 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: force that poo goal. So that was a nice play. 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: But I think moving forward, you kind of want to 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: figure out what this team's identity is. When playing against 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, you kind of see what their identity is. 101 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Like Carol's been, you know, with that team for seven years, 102 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: so he's had a long time to kind of establish 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: a culture in a way that his team's going to 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: play and obviously Lynn is just starting to do that. 105 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: And I think, regardless of identity to you never want 106 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: to turn the football over. And in the second quarter, 107 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: when you have three turnovers, that that's kind of when 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: the floodgates opened up a little bit. That's something that 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I know that they need to clean up. And again 110 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: the context of it, you know, Philip Rivers wasn't in there. 111 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Clemens had a ball tipped, you know, another interception I 112 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: think he would have liked to have back, and a fumble. 113 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the half, just how 114 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: important is it for these backups to take care of 115 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: the football, especially you know if they were thrust into 116 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: into action. You know, that's paramount. That's pretty much Priority 117 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: A is taking care of the football. Yeah, Mike march 118 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: Us always say that the quarterback has all of the 119 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: teammates and everybody an organization name is on the football 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: when they're dealing with it. So it's precious and you 121 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: want to take care of it. There were kind of 122 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: some flukey turnovers with tips and all that, but still, 123 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean it is on the quarterback. He's sponsible to 124 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: make sure he distributes it and takes care of it 125 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: and that's again been a point of emphasis. This is 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: a team that turned the ball over a league high 127 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: thirty five times last year. Rivers finished with a career 128 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: high twenty one interceptions last year, so they wanted to 129 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: do a better job of that four turnovers overall for 130 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: the game. Obviously, coach Lynn wasn't happy with that. We'll 131 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: see if he can get that turned around next week 132 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: against the Saints. Desmond King had a couple of really 133 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: nice plays. He had the interception, but I think the 134 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: hustle play. I think he was blitzing on that play 135 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: and to be able to run down trade bed. And 136 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: he's just a magnet for the football. At fourteen interceptions 137 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: at Iowa, I think it at twenty nine picks in 138 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: high school, you're starting to see a guy who really 139 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: is a magnet for the football. And I think that's 140 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: something where he's gonna make his hay in the NFL 141 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: by potentially creating turnovers and just being around the football. Yeah, 142 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought him up. He really pot for me. 143 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: He just looks like a football player. Like you said, 144 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: he really has a great nose for the football and 145 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: anticipates and understands, you know, where it's going to be. 146 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: I thought that was a great play to get back 147 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: into it and not give up on that play and 148 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: knocking the football out from behind and chasing he had 149 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: the interception, but just seem to be around the football 150 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, and that's kind of what 151 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: you want from that safety position. So I'm interested to 152 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: see if he can continue to do that. The special 153 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: teams piece is going to be important for him that 154 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: he's able to go in there and be a core 155 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: special teams player, guy that can contribute in that way 156 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: if he wants to make the Austin Dan Feeney is 157 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: a guy that we're probably gonna see a lot of 158 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: during the regular season, and he played well into the game. 159 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: What did you make of his play on the offensive line? 160 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: You know, it looks solid for the most part, but 161 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: in terms of O line do you line play? Those 162 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: are things I want to go back and watch the 163 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: film because you're watching so many aspects of the game, 164 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: just to kind of get a closer look at exactly 165 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: what he's doing. But you're right, I think it was 166 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: good that they gave him a long look. He's a 167 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: guy that that might be playing a lot for them. 168 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: In the regular season depending on what's happened in terms 169 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: of adapt their injuries. So I think it's good to 170 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: take had a lot of snaps in a game against 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, a pretty good defense, a front and the Chargers, 172 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: excuse me, the Seahawks. Eric this week, the Saints come 173 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: in for two joint practices before they actually play at 174 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Stupub Center on Sunday. And a couple of things to 175 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: stick out to me the fact that Sean Payton and 176 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn are both Bill Parcels guys. And I have 177 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: to look this up, and I think they may have 178 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: been on the same staff in Dallas when Parcels when 179 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Parcels was the head coach. I think it's gonna be 180 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: some physical practices on Thursday and Friday. What are you 181 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: looking to see from these guys now that they have 182 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: some tape from the first preseason game and really just 183 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: correcting those mistakes against another opponent. Yeah, well you mentioned 184 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean you want to see improvement based on what 185 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: they did that first week. How do they go back 186 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: and correct those changes? And I think they have a 187 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: unique opportunity because they're practicing against a different team. They're 188 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: going to see a different scheme both on offense and 189 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: defense over the next two days and in the second 190 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: preseas game against the Saints, so they get to kind 191 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: of work and try to improve those things throughout the 192 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: week against a different opponent, which I think kind of 193 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: heightens up the intensity again for that week, and I 194 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: think that should benefit them. And then you're also going 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: to see a couple former players too. Drew Brees obviously 196 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: started with the Chargers, so he he'll get a chance 197 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: to experience with the LA Chargers, is like. And then 198 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: man Tito started their projected starting the middle linebacker right 199 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: now for the Saints, and of course was drafted by 200 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers and played here for the early portion of 201 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: his career. So you'll get to see a couple former 202 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Chargers on the practice field. Eric had to look this 203 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: up last night because I was thinking about it. Drew 204 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Brees and Philip Rivers I think since two thousand and 205 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: two have started two hundred thirty four, two hundred and 206 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: forty regular season games for the Chargers. It's pretty remarkable. Man, 207 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: you look, you go back to two thousand and two, 208 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I think I was in college at 209 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: that point. It was pretty crazy. Yeah, that is weird 210 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: to think that the those two guys had that many 211 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: starts over that long a period for one team. Uh, 212 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: it definitely says something about the personnel department and they're 213 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: drafting in terms of finding two guys like that that 214 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: you know, you know, Drew Rees is probably gonna be 215 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, and I think Rivers should 216 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: be in Hall of Fame. Two very good quarterbacks obviously 217 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: that won a lot of games for this franchise and 218 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: now are going to be on the same practice fields 219 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: for a couple of days and playing against each other. 220 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, it definitely speaks well for the personnel department. Eric, 221 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: get you out of here on this. I know you've 222 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: been to a lot of NFL stadiums. What was it 223 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: like watching NFL football in in a venue like that? 224 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: You know, it was different, you know, obviously a smaller venue. 225 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: I thought from a fans perspective, you know, it was 226 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: pretty cool, you know, in terms of being that close. Um, 227 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I think the atmosphere will be even better during the 228 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: regular season when you have a full house. But you know, 229 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: the first game, you know, I thought that was a 230 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: good showing for them in terms of just you know, 231 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of the game and what was 232 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: being presented U from a fan experienced perspective, and again, 233 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I expect the energy level to be different. Um once 234 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: the regular season begins. He's Eric Williams of ESPN. Eric, 235 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: thanks so much of the time. I will see you 236 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: out at the JACKHAMBA Sports Complex this week. Sounds good. 237 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Christ he would trade Boston after 238 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: the game, trade before we get to the game. Your 239 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: first impression of playing from these fans of Stop Up Center, 240 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Oh it was fun. Um. They came out, supported us. Um, 241 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, gave us a little life in the beginning. 242 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: And after that, you know, you know, it's just it's 243 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: a regular game. You gotta get back to playing football. 244 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: But I think the fans that a great job is 245 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: showing out, and you know, showing out. It sorted well. 246 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Offense marches down the field, scores a touchdown, you guys 247 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: hold the Seahawks to three, and you know it's just 248 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: about taking care of football, right Yeah. Yeah, I mean 249 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: I think our wants did a great job, are going 250 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: out there establishing what you know, Charger football wants to 251 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: be and what it's gonna look like. I think twos 252 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: and three's got to clean it up a little bit. 253 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, these are young guys, first preseason 254 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: game under a new system with new brand new coaches 255 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: on how we do things around here. So I think 256 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: next week is gonna be a huge week for us 257 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: because you got to see how they're gonna bounce back 258 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: from that one. How are they gonna take the professionalism 259 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: you know to their game and truly become a professional. 260 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: You know. So I hope that they come back and 261 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: they jump back, and I know, as a veteran, I'm 262 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: gonna help them get back into it because you know, 263 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: it's just one preseason game. Season hasn't started. But that 264 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: was a good look of you know, um guys and 265 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: what they have to you know, prepare for. It's a 266 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: unique week two because you play the Saints next Sunday, 267 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: but they're gonna come to your house purchase some joy practices. 268 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: So how how do you approach the week with knowing 269 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be there for a couple days. I mean, 270 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: you're going you kick kick budd every day. You know, 271 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: you have a you have an opponent there, you know, Um, 272 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: you want to treat every practice like it's a game. 273 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: Pretty much. You know, these are guys who you don't 274 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: truly know, but you definitely want to get a feel for. 275 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: And uh, if you beat them during the week, you 276 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: hope to beat them again during practice. Desmond King, he 277 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: had an interset, He had some hustle plays out there. 278 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: What have you seen from him throughout training camp? It 279 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: looks like he's kind of a magnet for the football. Yeah, man, 280 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: the guy is uh, he's talented. The guy, like you said, 281 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: Jim Jim Thorpe Winner, has an eye for the ball. 282 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: The guy, uh, you know, finds a way to get 283 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: around it, you know. So I was very happy for 284 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: him to get those. Um, you know the turnover, one 285 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: turnover in the one force fumble. You know that's an effort. 286 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: You know, on that play he was blitzing, you know, 287 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: for him to be blitzing and then come back, run 288 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: down the running back and then get a you know 289 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: calls force fumble. You know that say that balls bounced 290 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: through the end zone. You know that's a whole other player. 291 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, that's amazing. Um. But just to see a 292 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: young guy like that work, you know this, you know again, 293 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: first preseason game as a rookie. Um, that's a good feel. 294 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, you'd like to see stuff like that out 295 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: of your out of our rookies, and I think him 296 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: and Ray Shaun did a great job for us in 297 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: the back end. What's the biggest difference, you know, being 298 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: a rookie in their first preseason game versus you being 299 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: a vet. The game is faster, obviously, but but what 300 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: are these guys you think these guys are feeling after 301 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: their first preseason in these rookies, this is NFL football. Um, 302 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: just because this preseason doesn't mean that this you know, 303 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: taking lightly. Um, this is when you come in and 304 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: you sharpen your iron. You know, once did a great job. 305 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, now twos and three's got to come in 306 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: and perform just like ones. And that's how it's how 307 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: you know what your team's about. You know, we played 308 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: a championship caliber team over there in the Seahawks, and 309 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: they did a great job of showing us what it 310 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: looks like, you know, front and back in detailed. They 311 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: did a great job of you know, keeping the ball. 312 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: You can't you know, turnovers are big in the game, 313 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: and we had plays fifty fifty places that we could 314 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: have made as well. Um, But I think we did 315 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: a great job overall. Again, we're gonna learn from it. 316 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: The young guys are gonna come back, and as veterans 317 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: and coaches, I'm pretty sure you know, we're pumped up 318 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: for next week going against the Saints. That we got 319 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: an opponent each week, so guys are gonna be up 320 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: to playing them. So while they're up to playing them, 321 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, we got to use that adrenaline and take 322 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: that into next week's game. You got to accentuate the positive. 323 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: Right that first drive on defense, you guys hold them 324 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: to three. How did it feel to be out there 325 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: with the ones? Oh? It was good. You know, Um, 326 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: I came here to play ball, you know, and my 327 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: guys know how I play. I'm very passionate. Coaches know 328 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: how I play. I'm a guy who loves to bring 329 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the energy to the game. And it was amazing being 330 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: out there with those guys. Those guys are great. You know, 331 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna be a good team. But it's not just 332 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: about the ones, you know. Unfortunately in football, your ones 333 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: will go down every so often, and we need twos 334 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: and threes who are going to pick their game up 335 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: and help us. And again, we're gonna get those guys along. 336 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: But going through ones today, you know, it's a blessing, 337 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, to be out here and working with this team. 338 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: Please be joined by Marcellus Wiley and Marcellis first NFL 339 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: game and StubHub Center. Man, what you think, Oh, it 340 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: was amazing experience. I tell you that from the fans perspective, 341 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: they got to see football and three D in the 342 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: way that they've never seen it before. I think such 343 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: a unique experience. Fans are gonna come out here in 344 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: droves and check it out. So exciting to see how 345 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna grow, but certainly a great start so far. 346 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: It's forty eight seventeen the final scores preseason, it's game one. 347 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: What did you see out there? Obviously the first drive 348 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, thirteen plays, seventy somebody yards and a touchdown. Yeah. 349 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean what you take from this is is your 350 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: ones versus the ones, and that was a great experience 351 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: about Philip Rivers going out there five for six throwing 352 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: the touchdown. Antonio Gates said, forget my birth certificate, I'm 353 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: still the man. That's what you want to see now. 354 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Obviously you want to see more in the running game, 355 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: but you gotta give running backs enough carrieres to get 356 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: some rhythm and to go out there and self correct, 357 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: so you don't want to grade them too harshly. And 358 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: also on the defensive side of the ball, you get 359 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: it's got to get off the field and third down 360 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: time of possession twenty three to thirty six minutes. You 361 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: can't lose time of possession to that degree and expect 362 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: to have much success. Get off the field on third 363 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: downs defensively. I think that's the key. You know, these 364 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: preseasons give as well as anybody. For the fans that 365 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: don't know, you see a score like this, you're like, 366 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: oh man, what happened? But this is played pretty vanilla 367 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah you are. I mean, look, you come 368 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: out there with a script, but not a game plan. 369 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: You just say, hey man, we're trying to work on 370 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: these plays no matter what we see from the other team. 371 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: And sometimes that goes in your favor, sometimes it doesn't. 372 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: The only thing about losing by that margin forty eight 373 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: to seventeen is whatever coach says, practice just got a 374 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: little harder. I don't care. I mean, we're humans, and 375 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: coach is just going to fill some of the eyeballs 376 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: at him like that was game one and the new market. 377 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: So that thud practice that was at fifty percent intensity 378 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: just ramped up to seventy five percent intensity and we 379 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: may be tackling a little more live, but all in all, 380 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: it was a good effort from the people that's going 381 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: to count the most and matter the most, and that 382 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: was good. You have any unique perspective with this market. 383 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, you have a radio show in LA, you 384 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff in Los Angeles, you are 385 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: a Charger. The fact that these guys have so many 386 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: stars are playing in kind of a unique atmosphere. How 387 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: do you think they're going to be received if they 388 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: start winning some games, especially early on? Oh you know, LA, 389 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: we export our culture, our entertainment. That's what we do. 390 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: And you know if you go out there and win 391 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: games or even lose games and the entertaining fashion, LA 392 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: will love you. So this is going to be exciting 393 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: to see the Chargers with stars on every level. And 394 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: they got a franchise quarterback in Philip Rivers. You got 395 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: household names, you got young up and coming stars like 396 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. I'm telling you the market is ready and 397 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: it's right before the Chargers go out there, get back 398 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and went over these fans. Last thing 399 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: I had to ask a defensive end, Melvin Ingram, Joey Bosa, 400 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: this tandem. We talked about the AFC West two with 401 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: the guys in Kansas City and Denver and Oakland. You 402 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: gotta have pass rushers. How did these guys stack up 403 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: with everybody else in the league. Oh man, you're going 404 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: back to the Rayley Johnson and then Marcella's yeah right, 405 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: yeah right, yeah. We did have a good year together 406 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: and didn't have some good years. It was fun. I talked. 407 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: I talked to Merriman about Deshaun Phillips Merriman era on Friday. 408 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Though I wasn't May I was a major era as well. 409 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: I gotta give him credit. Uh we started it though. Listen, 410 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: let me say this, Untilley Bosa twelve games coming off 411 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: of a holdout and injury and still give you ten 412 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: and a half. Violent hands. What I see from him 413 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: is just violent hands in the motor. The boy just 414 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: keeps going insane. What a talent Melvin Ingram, just that 415 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: edge rush and the fact that he could just move 416 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: like he canceled gracefully. Special tandem and what's gonna be 417 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: good is they're gonna have a off sin I can 418 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: put up points and that's a dream for a defender 419 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: to go after the other teams quarterback, fourth quarter having leads. 420 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: So the second most injured team, which is the Chargers, 421 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: has to stay healthy this year. If they do, they 422 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: could do something special. 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