1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: What's good everybody. Welcome to the fourth Jordan Player podcast. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Whereas time going. It is Tuesday, November eight, two thousand 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: and twenty two. Um, we're not coming off of big 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Stubbs this weekend. Uh, tough loss to the Jets. We'll 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: get in a little bit of that. We got more 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: factor cap. Jeff Saturday becomes the head coach of the 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Coach Colts. Interesting topic around the league, Interesting topic around 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: the country. Uh, smart mafia questions, Mafia mom, I see you. 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: Uh we also got they hey Jack zero one on 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: here for some mafia questions. And also my buddy Dean 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: Marlowe is joining us. Dean, Uh, if you don't know, 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: you know Buffalo fans know him twenty He was a 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: big contributor to our Buffalo Bills run runs and a big, 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: big building blocks what we have built here in Buffalo 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: so far. And we'll get a chance to holler him 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: a little later, talk about his journey to Detroit to 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Atlanta back to getting traded to Buffalo, and we get 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: into the big does breakdown. Obviously not big Dubbs this week. Man, 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: it was tough. Jess came ready and boys came ready. 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: You know you gotta expect that. Um, boys came ready 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: to play. You got expect that really every week, you know, 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: coming in anybody coming in and play the Buffalo Bills 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: are gonna come ready to play. But uh, you know, um, 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: we just didn't play that well enough to win. Um 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: you know that, hey, like you know Von said earlier 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: in the year, and we lost to uh Dolphense. It's 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: good medicine. Uh, you gotta use it the right way. 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, losses like these, you know, I've been a 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: part of been in this league a long time. Um, 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: you know these losses where you kind of scratch your 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: head and wonder, you know, and why didn't go why 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: didn't go our away this way? Why didn't go our 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: way that way? Though they come and and from my experience, 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: just being able to you know, learn from those and 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and learn from those experiences and really move on. You know, 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: if the end of the day, we still have seven 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: games left to play, you know, or I'm sorry shooting, 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm tripping, we said nine games up to play. Um, 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's a long season, long season, and uh, 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm trying to get healthy, and you 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: know it's uh, it's tough when especially you're watching the 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: game and you just man, you know, you're seeing things 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: and you want to be able to to do to 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: to go out there really play man. Damn. I was 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: ready to suit up. It was tough because, um, you know, 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: just I haven't really had any setbacks, just uh, you know, 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: some things going on in my elbow. I just you know, 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out. So I tell you the one 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: day at a time. Um, you know, but we'll move 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: on from it. It was, like I said, tough loss. 51 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you look at it. You can 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: look at it, you know, two ways. Um, you know, 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: we're still six and two though I still got a 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: lot of football less we played and we're still a 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: good football team. So um and to me, we still 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: got the best quarterback in the game, you know, even 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: though I know he said after the game, it's tough 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: to win this league, you know, playing a good team 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: and quarterback plays like crap. You know it too. It happens. 60 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: But and at the end of the day, I arribed 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: with Josh, like I said, every all time, any day 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: of the week. And you know he I love that 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: about him though, you know, being able to to really 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, and nobody played good, you know, and you 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: know it's kind of been ever since the second half 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: of it was a Green Bay game, We've kind of 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: had some hiccups and you know, we've got to figure 68 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: things out and then we will. I have no doubt 69 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: about it that we will. But you know, I love 70 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: a guy like that who who's our leader, and you 71 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: know it takes it with the chess, takes you know, 72 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: and um, you know, takes the media questions and you 73 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: know he owns it. And Uh, like I said, I 74 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: arrived with Josh any day of the week, man, and 75 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: games like that happened. It's the NFL. You know, it's 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. You gotta come ready to play each week, 77 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: each each and every week, you know. UM, those guys 78 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: get paid to UM. You know, no matter what the 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: record is, who who's out there playing, UM, you gotta 80 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: come ready to play each and every week. And you know, UM, 81 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: it's something that we'll definitely learn from, UM and continue 82 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: to grow and continue to move on fromm UM. But 83 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: I think you know, you know, we'll start, especially when 84 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: you start getting guys healthy. Man. UM. You know, Matt 85 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: coming back, hopefully, Travis coming back soon, myself coming back. UM, 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and you know it's, uh, it's a long season, and 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: we got the right group of guys in the locker 88 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: room to be able to handle that and move on 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: from it. And uh, you know, we got a big 90 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: game coming up at home this weekend. Who Vikings Red 91 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Hot Vikings Man seven and one Kirk Cousins out there 92 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: on the plane with the chains going crazy. So it's funny, 93 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 1: but now it's uh, you know, it's a good football team. 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: So and really talented, really talented obviously Dalt Cook talent 95 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: talented as hell. Um, you know, really talented in space 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: and using them in so many different ways. And then 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: you know, obviously justin Jefferson, um on the outside, just 98 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: being able to you know, just really attack the deep ball. 99 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: Um you know, runs runs so many routes. Um. Just 100 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: really soft football too, you really good defense. Um. You know, 101 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: you know Harry is coming back. Shout out Harrison Phillips 102 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: and he's coming back home. I know he's hyped about 103 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: this game. So UM, I think, you know, I think, well, 104 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta obviously come ready to work. Man. 105 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Um it's uh, you know, had today I had today 106 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: to kind of get the bodies right, get healthy. Um, 107 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: gotta come ready to work tomorrow, you know, in order 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: to be successful on Sunday. So, um, you know, we're 109 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: excited about the opportunity and it's it's really just one 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: day at the time, and you know, um, learn from it, 111 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: move on obviously. You know the people are gonna say this, 112 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: people are gonna say that. You can't pay attention to that. 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't get into that, um, because it 114 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter at the end of the day. You know, 115 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: when you're winning, people are gonna say this. When you 116 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: when you lose, people are gonna say that. And the 117 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: day it doesn't matter. None of it matters a factor. 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: Caps segment, just Saturday becomes the head coach of the 119 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: Colds about any experienced um Joyce Joy Taylor states, the 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: Colts hiring Jeff Saturday, a coach with no experience other 121 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: than high school football, can't be serious higher. I do 122 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: believe that it is a serious higher joy not a 123 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: fake higher. It's a it's a it's an interesting topic, 124 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, um all around, uh, because you could kind 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: of go both ways. You know, I've never met Jeff Saturday. 126 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a great, great person. Seeing him on 127 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: TV He's played a lot of football in this game. 128 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: I know he understands the game of football at least, 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: you know one side. He's been a captain. He was 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: a captain on his football team, his football the Colts 131 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: for a long time. UM. He played with Peyton Manning, 132 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: UM won a Super Bowl and UM, so you know, 133 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: very knowledgeable football guy. Uh. Is he a head coach? 134 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the situation between him 135 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: and the owner. I don't know their relationships. Uh. UM. 136 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: But I think the interesting topics that you know, a 137 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: lot of people have sayd like Rob Parker, he states 138 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: the hiring Jeff Saturdays and slap in the face to 139 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: even the minority coach in the NFL. I think you 140 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: can argue that's the slap in the face all the 141 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL. UM. You know, if he was UM, 142 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: if he was a black, UH minority coach, interim head 143 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: coach who didn't have the same experience as Jeff Saturday, 144 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: you could argue that that is a slap in the 145 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: face to every coach who is pushing to be a 146 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: head coach and who has You know, I feel some 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: type of way from some of the coaches you know 148 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: they coach me. You know they all a lot of 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: the coaches that coach me deserve head coaching job somewhere 150 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: in this league. So you know what is what messages 151 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: you know does that send to you know, those coaches 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: around league? And I get it, you know, Rob Parker, 153 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: that's a fair statement to say it's a slot of face, 154 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: especially to the minorities coaches in the NFL. But to me, 155 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: you could go even further to every coach in the NFL. 156 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: If I was a coach of the FIL I would 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: feel some type of it's just you know, it's okay. 158 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: So at what point, you know, you work so hard 159 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: to get to certain spots in your career, you know, 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity you know opens up and boom. You know 161 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: a coach who who you know, his his his highest 162 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: high school or his highest highest coaching experiences high school. 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: And that's not taking anything away from him, um, because 164 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: then you can flip around to it. As a player, 165 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of I think it's kind of cool, 166 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, you get in Look, there's a lot of 167 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: great coaches in this league, and I'm lucky enough to 168 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: play with play for a lot of really good coaches. 169 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: But I've been in this league a long time. A 170 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of not really good, not so good coaches in 171 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: this league. And you know, you get a guy like 172 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday, who's played in the league, has been in 173 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the league. Um who who's who's won in this league, 174 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: and who's a leader in this league, and you get 175 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know, obviously he's gonna have guys 176 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: around him. He's gonna have men around him to help him. Um. 177 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that that experience and loan 178 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: and you know, like Mike Brebel, I think Mike Brabel 179 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: is an awesome head coach, you know. And that's just 180 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: a guy who's played and who understands the game, understands 181 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: how to get to his players. Um. And And you know, 182 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I respect that about a lot of coaches who have coached, 183 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, because I don't know if I can do that. 184 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: But playing tender, I've played ten years in the league. 185 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can go on and continue 186 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: to coach. And so I respect a lot of the 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: coaches who have played in the league and and they 188 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: are now coaching and and and sharing their experience and 189 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: sharing their their their value and knowledge to to guys 190 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: like myself and so um, as a player, I think 191 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: it's cool. You know, I don't know what the what 192 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: the bojo is in that in that locker room. Obviously 193 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: they're probably not playing up to the standard they want 194 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: to be playing, so it's probably pretty frustrating. But you 195 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: get a guy like Jeff Saturday, you know, guy who's played, 196 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: who understands who who who, who has feel Um, you know, 197 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I think I think it could go. I think it 198 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: could be good and I would in my and I 199 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if if it if it does, Um, 200 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, I hope it. I hope it is good. 201 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think we play on my arts guy show. 202 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: So um you know maybe you know who knows, but um, 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: I think that Uh, I think it could be good. 204 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Um you know, if if handled the right way. But 205 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: we'll see, Tom will tell. That's just my opinion, um, 206 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: and and that's what I'm here to do, give you 207 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: some of my opinions. Shout out to e C. M C. 208 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Is awesome to be able to partner with you, guys. 209 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Also shout out to the Austin Air Pirefiers, Bills, Mafia Babes, 210 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: My guys, Kim Lewis and too Real Dots and they're 211 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: gonna help us provide Thanksgiving dinner to c MC dials, 212 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: patients and their families. Uh. If you'd like to support, 213 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: if you're in Buffalo, please please bringing nonperishable items between 214 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: November eight and November fourteen. November eight actually starting today, 215 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: so this would be tomorrow. UM, so this would be 216 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: today to the fourteen to the e c m C 217 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Foundational Office in Room G one, adjacent to the escalator 218 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: in the main lobby of e c MC. UM. If 219 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: you're not here and you'd like to donate to cover 220 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: the cost of a turkey or contribute towards perishal groceries, 221 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: text poyer all caps two seven six to seven eight. Again, 222 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate E c m C, Bills, Mafia, Babes, Austin Air, 223 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: Pure Fiers and my my boys cans and for helping 224 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: me out. UH during this Thanksgiving life you thankful for UM. 225 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot going on in the world. UH. I 226 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: just want to continue to, you know, try to give 227 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: back to those in need. UM. Trying to be positive 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: in this world. I encourage everyone to continue to be positive. UM. 229 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: Tell somebody love them. Uh. Teest some you care about them. 230 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: Uh tellt someone a if you need something, I'm here 231 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: for you. A little things like that go a long way. 232 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: So I appreciate everyone tuning into the fourth Jordan Poyer Podcast. 233 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: But those Vikings Vikings at Bills this Sunday. I don't 234 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: think it's a night game, but uh, big game at home. 235 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: We're excited to be back home again. They got two 236 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: home games in a row, one game at a time. 237 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: But I'm excited to be back home. Uh. Starting to 238 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: get a little chilly out here in Buffalo, New York. 239 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: You see him in my hoodie, my big hoodie. These 240 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: hoodies are probably gonna start getting bigger and bigger each week. Uh, 241 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: so don't be surprised. I appreciate you guys for tuning 242 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: in until next time. See then check me out though 243 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: in his eight season out of j M you James 244 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: Madison University. I got my dear friend and teammate with me. 245 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Jordan's joining the Jordan Poyer Podcast. My guy, Dean Marlowe Dino. 246 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining, bro. What is good? I'm doing good, Bro, 247 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you having me all pro po. Yes, sir, I 248 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: was just about to say, Dino undrafted and Chat went 249 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: to Carolina from him and I were teammates in Buffalo. Uh, 250 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: went on a couple of good runs, man, it was 251 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Dino decided to leave Buffalo and 252 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: go on his own and went off to Detroit. He 253 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: went off to Atlanta, and now he's back home where 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: he belongs in Buffalo, New York with his boys, with 255 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: his team. Uh, Dino, man, I just want to talk 256 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: to you a little bit about, you know, a little 257 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: bit about your transition from Buffalo to Detroit. First, let's 258 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: talk about your time in Buffalo beforehand. Bro, we had 259 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: some we have some good times bro back back back 260 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: back in those days. That thing was a brotherhood. Man. 261 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: You already held me you Michael uhawn. We had j 262 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: T back then, and that should I was freaking. It 263 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: was an honor for me to play what you guys. 264 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: I enjoyed every man, every last minute, man. And it 265 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: was we created something special. We were able to see 266 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: the growth from the organization back in seen when we 267 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: made the playoffs that first year, and just every year 268 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: we just kept laying bricks, kept stacking, stacking, stacking, and uh, 269 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, we built this thing with a Brandon and 270 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: Sean from the ground up. Bro, and as I wanted 271 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: to get into that a little bit as a couple 272 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: of questions for you and a little bit. Uh. That 273 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: was my last question I was gonna ask you. But 274 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: the first question I want to ask you was your 275 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: transition from Buffalo to Detroit and then and then moving 276 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: on from Detroit to Atlanta. Um, you know I've I've 277 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: and then obviously from Atlanta to to to Buffalo. And 278 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: I've never been traded before. I've only been on This 279 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: is my third team. I was drafted the Philly went 280 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: to UH, went to Cleveland. Uh, Philly cut me, went 281 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: to Cleveland, played there for three and a half years. 282 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: They didn't want me back. So now in Buffalos my 283 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: six year in Buffalo, but then you were in You 284 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: were in Buffalo all those years and Bro, like you 285 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: a baller, always deserved to go get your your glory 286 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: and your shine went to Detroit. What happened? Yeah? You do? 287 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: You know, you know, just to leave, leave that blue 288 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: collar organization in Buffalo. I didn't know if I wanted 289 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: to leave. I was like, should I go get mine? 290 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm playing with two all pros, I'm learning 291 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: from the best, from the best tenon that there is 292 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: in the league. Uh. And man, maybe I can use 293 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: that talent and go elsewhere to kind of you know, 294 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: create something for me. UM. And you know, well, at 295 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's a production based business 296 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: and you gotta get out there and do yours like 297 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: you always say so. So going to Detroit, UM, it 298 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: was a little bit of a culture shot. You know. 299 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: I was the first time, UM that I was a 300 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: VET on a on a rebuilding squad. UM and me 301 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: I had to take a leadership role in any way, 302 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: shape or form to you know, to help young guys 303 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: around me. Uh, to learn a new defense that I've 304 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: been in for I would say probably what five five, 305 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: six years UM, Which that was never the problem, but 306 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: it was. It was great to see on the on 307 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: the other side of the spectrum, UM, what other teams 308 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: looked like. UM as a VET, and you know it 309 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: was we we we struggled, to be honest. Uh, we 310 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: didn't do as well that we thought that we would do. UM. 311 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, we had a lot of coaches that were 312 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: former players that we thought that could help, you know, 313 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: progress all the guys on the team. But it was. 314 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: It was rough, um and we hit a lot of 315 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: adversity for sure. UM. So we ended up going with 316 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: three and thirteen I think last year. UM. And you know, 317 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: we weren't too happy with that. Everyone said, yes, the 318 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: first year, the whole new regime. You know, Detroit is 319 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: gonna change. UM, We're gonna build something there. And you know, 320 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: just between yeah, bro, it's just between you know, me 321 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: and the organization. It was it was best for us 322 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: and just part ways, UM, and for me to go 323 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: seek another opportunity. UM. And there led me to you know, 324 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: going to Atlanta, UM where they were in the second 325 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: year of their regime. So I'm thinking, hey, like they 326 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: kind of had to figure it out a little bit. 327 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: They learned. Um, there was hardships, you know, there was 328 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: there was good times. Now they're trying to figure out, 329 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, what they want to do and win. Uh. 330 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: So that that brought me there for the first eight 331 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: weeks of the season, and you know, we're playing well, 332 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: we were first in the division. Uh. You know, we 333 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: were kind of inconsistent, losing, winning, losing, losing, winning winning. Uh. 334 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: You know, I was able to get out there and 335 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: play contribute on special teams that on defense. UM, and 336 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: then you know, trade deadline comes. What was that like, 337 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: tell you and tell you you can't tell you being 338 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: traded and then back to Buffalo. For a matter of fact, 339 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: I'll tell everybody that I said, I'll watch your games, bro, 340 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: y'all my bros. Uh, there's nothing like watching y'all on 341 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: Sundays when I'm not playing. UM, I feel like a 342 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: damn fan, you know. You know, we were every every 343 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, you know, checking in on each other. 344 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: All right, So so you get the call being traded 345 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: back to Buffalo. What was what was some of your 346 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: first initial reactions like what what would you feel like? Bro? 347 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: I was sitting on the couch, me and me and 348 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: wife we were talking about they are what um what 349 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: new words Sloan was you know, trying to say? And 350 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. I get the call from Arthur Smith 351 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you know, Buffalo you know called 352 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: me and you know we think it's a better opportunity 353 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: for opportunity for you to go back, and you know 354 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: what they're dealing with. UM, And I was just I 355 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: was kind of shocked, bro, that I was sitting there like, damn, yeah, 356 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: that would be crazy. I was. I was shot and 357 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: I was I was like, yeo. I called. I called wife, 358 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: you back and I told her and she was like 359 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: you are you serious? She was like, I'm gonna be 360 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: back with Amanda, Hi, Rachel. She was like, I'll be 361 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: back with everybody. And she was. She started crying and 362 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: because you know, you know our room and our team, 363 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's not even it's more than 364 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: the team. Man. We got were family over there. So 365 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: all right, Dean, we gotta segment on here called the 366 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: Mafia Questions. Um, so we got we got a couple 367 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: of good questions. I think they'd be interested in here 368 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: in your your perspective, your point of view from mafia mom. Hey, 369 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: mafia mom. Who is the hardest running back to tackle 370 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: in the open field? One on one? Oh man? First, 371 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: I'll let your first. I'm gonna put this out there 372 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: first of all, in the open field human, it does 373 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: not matter who it is. It's probably the hardest technique 374 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to do on the football field. So but you gotta 375 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: do it like you have to do it like you 376 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: just it's a it's more of a mindset than anything. 377 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: But the hardest to me it's got to be like 378 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: in the open field, like one on one. It's got 379 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: to be Derrick Henry. I was just I was I 380 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: was gonna say that, or I wasn't even gonna say 381 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: Cordell Patterson. I mean I was with him in Atlanta, 382 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: for I've seen him run somebody. I've seen him run 383 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: somebody over man. He c p he a different breed. 384 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: He um. He the same size as as Derrick Henry. 385 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: And he running, I mean, he looks he's out for blood. 386 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: He's out for blood here like a yeah. And you 387 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: and you got to be able to trying to bring 388 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: him back sixth board to thirty five and running just 389 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry. So you know that's it's the big dude. 390 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: It's the I can't even name somebody specific. I just 391 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: got a name, the big fast like Josh type, size 392 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: and speed. When you got size and speed, that's the 393 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: market right right right like seventeen all right, Hey Jack, 394 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: the hey Jacks ever one to ask what's your favorite 395 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: thing about being a Buffalo bill Um, I guess I'll 396 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: go first. Dean already had mentioned it. I just the 397 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: brotherhood that we had built. I think it's dope. I 398 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: think it's more of like a college fraternity, not college 399 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: fraternity at college football team. In a sense, it's just 400 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: like it's crazy how long a lot of us have 401 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: been there together, have have left and came back, and 402 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, all of our families know each other. Buffalo. 403 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: Don't get mad at me. I've said there's some other 404 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: ineviews before, and I got a lot of crap from it. 405 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: But there's really not a whole lot to do in Buffalo, 406 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: and so we all hang out with each other, we 407 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: all care with each other, we all go out to 408 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: they eat with each other, especially in the wintertime. So um, 409 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: but that's my that's my favorite thing about being uh 410 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, go ahead, deeve what you got. Damn. I 411 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: I remember the highways just how it was like it 412 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: was yesterday. I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh, I remember this, 413 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: and Buffalo was a blue college city that just you 414 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: gotta be able, you gotta be in it you got 415 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: or you gotta be from it to really cherish like 416 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: the small little hidden gems that they got here. Obviously, 417 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: the weather sucks. You know, we don't get a lot 418 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: of sun for what four months, four to five months, 419 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: but for the most part. I mean, I'm already seen 420 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: it right now. This team, Man's just is a family, 421 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: and you don't really find that in the league. Man, 422 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: it's a it's a selfish, selfish league. And you had 423 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of unselfish dudes on one NFL team, 424 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: and that's that's truly special facts. Bro Dino, bro I 425 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you hopping on Man and and hopping on the 426 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Player podcast. You're actually my first guest. You know 427 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: that my first appreciate that he was more of my 428 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: upper co host. So you're my first guest my fourth show. 429 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it going. Maybe you get on again 430 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: sometime in the future. Bro Um, I appreciate you hopping 431 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: on again. I'm actually seeing tomorrow at work. So uh, 432 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: like I said, I appreciate you. Broke