1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Day two of the twenty twenty three NFL Draft is 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: in the books, and just like day one, gentlemenager Manti 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Austin Ford was active, two more trades, three more players, 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: each one addressing a need. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: six forty four, and it starts now. 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Budda Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable? 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: He's in again, so more hurry magic. 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Grioloud. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: First things first, Danny, how about a wellness check here? 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: After Day two the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, A 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: long day after what was a long night after day one? 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: Are we sure it's only been two days? It feels 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 4: a lot longer than that. 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: Maybe in real time, yes, day and a half two days. 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: But you're right. 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Things have moved, sometimes rather slowly, and then other times, 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: like in the instance, in the first forty five minutes 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: of Day one, very fast. Day two wasn't as hectic, 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: but still a lot of. 26 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: Activity, A lot of activity. Well you and I also 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: on night one were hosting a live stream, so that's 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: also probably why things felt much faster. But as we 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: record this Friday evening, after the Cardinals are done making 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: their draft picks for the night after round three, it 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: feels like days ago that the first round pick, offensive 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: lineman Paris Johnson Junior arrived at the facility, which was 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: roughly what nine ten hours ago, I mean, what to day, 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: but very exciting. I mean, goodness gracious to be a 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: fly on the wall in that war room with general 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: manager Monios for it, which I guess. I guess Cardinals 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: fans will get to see that in what are the 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: Newest flight Plan episodes, which was not an intentional plug, 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: believe it or not, But holy cow, has he been 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: busy in his first draft as a general manager for trades. 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: Cardinals started out this year with eight picks. They currently 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: have nine and have also added three next year of 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: first and two thirds in twenty twenty four. And I 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: like that. I feel like the moves that this front 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: office not just Manias and for it, but his team, 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: which he has been quite clear about. The moves have 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: been smart, and I know we're going to get into 48 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: the specific players and what those moves are. It's no 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: secret the Cardinals had more than one position to fill. 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 4: This was not a roster where you were one or 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: two pieces away in terms of maybe not a starter, 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: but depth to really contend. That's not where the Cardinals 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: were a lot of places on this that needed to 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: be addressed. Not only are the Cardinals doing that, they 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 4: are also planning ahead. Because you have so many holes 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: to fill, you have to plan for the future, maybe 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: a little more so than a team like at Kansas 58 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: City or San Francisco who has a really good starting 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: point on their roster. That's just different than where the 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: Cardinals are at right now. So the fact that maniasin 61 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: fort is racking up some picks not just for this 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: year but also next year, great picks next year because 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: you have Houston's first round pick, Houston who is going 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: to be rocking with a rookie quarterback, which doesn't usually 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: bode well that first year in terms of having a 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: good record. I just think the moves have been really smart. 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: It's been very exciting to see all these trades go down. 68 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: That's what we heard from head coach Jonathan Gannon as 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: well as owner Michael Bidwell after Thursday night Round one 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: of just watching Manti asin Fort work those phones to 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: go from three to twelve with Houston and then back 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: up to six with Detroit to get offensive line in 73 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior. It has been very exciting. But all 74 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: in all, when you're talking about all of these trades, 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: not just the big one in Round one, but all 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: those other trades with Tennessee with Houston to move throughout 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: the third, fourth, and fifth rounds, I think have been 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: smart in terms of knowing the players and the positions 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: you need with the depth in this draft class again 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: while also creating some draft capital next year. 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: I know head coach Jonathan Gannon cringed when the word 82 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: rebuild was mentioned with respects to what is going on, 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: even all the way back to free agency. 84 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: All right, you don't like. 85 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: Rebuild, how about remodel. The foundation is being reset within 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals under the direction of Monty austin Ford 87 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: and jg getting the players that they want high character. 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: That's been a buzzword that we've heard time in and 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: time again. We'll heard it again after Day two. But 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: in free agency and now in the draft getting players, 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: they're players, and there's a distinction because the players that 92 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: are currently on the raw, sure that are returning, we 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: really don't know what this front office and coaching staff 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: feels thinks about them. That will be left by actions 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: rather than words. But the players that are brand new 96 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: from free agency from the draft, those are Manis guys, 97 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: JG's guys, and I think little by a little we're 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: kind of seeing what this building will look like in 99 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: the future. Now, how far into the future, that's the question. 100 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: I think why Gannon might have cringed a little bit 101 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: because when you hear the word rebuild or reset, how 102 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: long does that take? And we can be patient here 103 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: now in April, Danny, much different when we get to September, October, November, 104 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: and December, because then people, I don't like that word patient. 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: They want wins. 106 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: On Sunday, it's interesting this first pick six overall with 107 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: Paris Johnson junior, an offensive lineman with versatility. He was 108 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: a right guard at Ohio State and then last season 109 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: moved out to left tackle. Was the starter. So not 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: only can he play inside and outside, but on both 111 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: sides of the ball, which is incredibly impressive. And when 112 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: you talk about what the carryover will look like the 113 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: next couple of years from the previous regime and to 114 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: this one, I think that's a really great point. We 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 4: have heard from Gannon that he likes to have competition 116 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: at every position, so I don't have a problem with 117 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: drafting an offensive lineman. That's especially a position where typically 118 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: players need a year or two to really really fine 119 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: tune their skills and be ready to make the move 120 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: from college to the pros. And usually they start off 121 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: more as a depth piece find their way to becoming 122 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: a starter. But that is really interesting. I don't know, 123 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: you know, it'll be interesting in the next couple months. 124 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: How safe are the starting roles for a left tackle 125 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: DJ Humphreyes and right tackle Calvin Beachum. Maybe they are safe. 126 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: Maybe this is a situation where Paris Johnson really does 127 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: need a year to turn into the type of player 128 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: they see him becoming. Maybe Johnson is able to move 129 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: inside and he's one of your guards, and maybe that 130 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: is left guard, maybe that's the right guard, and he 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: moved will Hernandez to the left side, where he has 132 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: played before in his career. There's a lot of opportunities 133 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: when it comes to this pick, and that's why I'm 134 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: okay with it. I know at first some people might think, well, 135 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: we have DJ Humphries, but competition is good, and while 136 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: you are always trying to fill immediate needs, you are 137 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: also drafting for the future, and so we don't know 138 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: what that future holds with this new coaching staff, this 139 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: new front office. So I like the pick. I like 140 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: that the Cardinals were able to get some more capital 141 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: with Houston getting their first and third next year. It 142 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: took two trades and it was a little hectic, but 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: all in all, the Cardinals move from three to six. 144 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Two trades on Thursday, two more trades on Friday, three 145 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: more players, added nine total by the end of Saturday, 146 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: and we'll see if it's more than just that. Well, 147 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: let's get in to what happened on day two, Round two, 148 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: Round three, and we started with once again, he traded. 149 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals had the thirty third overall pick that was 150 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: shipped to the Texans, excuse me, the Titans, along with 151 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: number eighty one for forty one seventy two and a 152 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: future third round pick. With that forty first overall pick, 153 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals added lsu edg Rusher, bj O Julari. Then in 154 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: round three, Sarah Hughes cornerback Garrett Williams. 155 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 3: I like that pick. I like that pick a lot, Danny. 156 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of Garrett Williams. 157 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: This seems a little biased, just a hunch, just a hunch. 158 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: Okay, class of ninety six, that's all I gotta say. 159 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: All right, but he wasn't even born yet, Craig. 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: Wow, wait a second, that is uncalled for. I don't 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: even know if that's true, and I refuse to look 162 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: it up. To back that claim, that is. 163 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: I will not look it up. I apologize, Oma, we'll 164 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: take it out. 165 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, let's steer this ship back in its proper direction. 166 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals covered who presented by Yundai, proud partner of the 167 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Also in round three of the Cardinals added 168 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Stanford wide receiver Michael Wilson. That was with the ninety 169 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: fourth overall pick, and then with pick number ninety six, 170 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: they dealt that the the Detroit Lions for a couple 171 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: of picks. But we'll get to in a moment. But 172 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: you add an edge rusher, you add a cornerback, and 173 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: you add a wide receiver, all positions of need. Now 174 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: you can rank those needs however you want, but each 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: of those positions big needs. But the biggest, obviously is 176 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: something that we've been talking about a lot, and that 177 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: is edge rusher. 178 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: Right. Bj O'jalari, the brother of Aziz, who is a 179 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: pass rusher with the Giants. BJ is six two two 180 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: forty eight. He was a first team All SEC player 181 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two. He led the Diggers with seven 182 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: sacks as a sophomore in twenty twenty one. He missed 183 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: two games last season with the knee injury. However, he 184 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: still finished with fifty eight tackles, five and a half sacks, 185 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: eight and a half tackles for loss. And here's what 186 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: was interesting. I saw this from Pro Football Focus. Craig 187 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 4: Ojelari had one hundred and twenty allowed one hundred and 188 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: twenty Sorry, Ojelari had one hundred and twenty six QB 189 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: pressure since twenty twenty. The only player in that time 190 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 4: span who had more Will Anderson. Now, I know that 191 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: Ojilari might not have that size, that height, but something 192 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: that awesome for it talked about to the media and 193 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: his press conference was that he still has that bend, 194 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: he still has that length, and so this seems like 195 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: a player that could come in, you work with him 196 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: a little and maybe come in and be one of 197 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: your starters, or maybe maybe not a starter. I think 198 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: maybe you have with L. J. 199 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: Collier. 200 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: You have to see kind of where everyone fits. But 201 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: I think he has that potential to come in and 202 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: be an impact player. 203 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: You look at the size six to forty eight and okay, 204 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: maybe not the prototypical edge rusher, but let's not forget 205 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: where Jonathan Gannon came from, and that's the Philadelphia Eagles 206 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: and his number one edge rusher a year ago Hasan 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Reddick six ' one two thirty. So o Jilari is 208 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: bigger than Hassan Reddick. Now the question is is he 209 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: as good, But as far as the size comparisons, not 210 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: much difference. And I think Ojelari is gonna be given 211 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: every opportunity on the football field, provided he knows the playbook, 212 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing to contribute, and contribute right away 213 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: because it is a glaring need. We'll see what happens 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: with Cameron Thomas, my J Sanders in year two, Xavi 215 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: and Collins. Is this move to outside linebacker something that 216 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: is permanent or just to see how it works? So 217 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: they do have bodies, but are they effective on the 218 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: football field? And that's why I do think edge rusher, 219 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: even after the selection of Ojelari something that I would 220 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals would like to add to. 221 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: This was arguably the greatest need. The Cardinals had no 222 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: real quarterback disruption last season, and you cut Marcus Golden, 223 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: so you really don't have a true veteran presence. And 224 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: I know that this obviously doesn't add of veteran presence. 225 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: My point being a this was a big need for 226 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, and on Thursday night they felt that it 227 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: was best to trade out when Will Anderson was still 228 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: there and Tyree Wilson and these other names. But they 229 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: still got a player that works for this team, which 230 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: we've talked about in Paris Johnson, and still got more 231 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: draft capital. So I like the fact that at the 232 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: next opportunity they addressed the need their need on defense 233 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: with an edge and Bjljelari. 234 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah NFL Network his pre draft profile on Ojulari 235 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: talked about his quick first step, wins with a quick 236 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: swipe technique, a dip and bend move, or a nifty 237 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: hesitation rush, fluid and coverage when asked to drop. I 238 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: don't know how often you would ask an o'jelari to 239 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: drop in coverage. Normally those guys like to move forward 240 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to backwards. But the production is there, the size. 241 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: We'll see how it works within this defense. And then 242 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: I just like first impression as far as being able 243 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: to hear from him in a conference call after the 244 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: selection quote. I think I do a great job of 245 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: causing havoc in the backfield, and that's what this defense needs. 246 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's the mindset of a head coach 247 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: and a defensive coordinator Nick Ralis that wants to see 248 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that from your front seven. 249 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: That's what you like to hear, somebody who's going to 250 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: go out there and cause problems for the offense you're facing. 251 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: We have heard a lot about high character, and something 252 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: that's interesting is all three draft picks from Friday, we're 253 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 4: team captains and bij Ojalari wore the coveted eighteen at 254 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: LSU with Mani, which many alsopport was talking about the 255 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: coaching staff gives that to a one player every year 256 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: based upon their work ethic and what type of leader 257 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: and player they are, and that went to BJ, and 258 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: I think that says a lot about you know, it's 259 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: one thing every team, Every team wants to say, we 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: want to pick guys who are not just good on 261 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: the field, who are going to be good people as well. 262 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: And sometimes the truth is that doesn't always happen. That's 263 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: not always the case, whether or not they know that 264 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: when the draft pick is made or not. But it 265 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 4: has been quite clear with the free agents that have 266 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: been brought in and with these draft picks so far, 267 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: when you're looking at the type of leadership and the 268 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: fact that Paris Johnson started his own foundation in high school, 269 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it really does seem like they're not just 270 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: saying they're looking for high character players and people. Seems 271 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: like they really are. It's those actions matching the words. 272 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: It's the high character players, the high character coaches, and 273 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: as many Austin Ford described on Friday Night quote, it's 274 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: all tied together. So BJ Jolari the forty first overall 275 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: pick in the second round, let's move Danny to round 276 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: number three and the seventy second overall pick. With that 277 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: trade with the Titans and the Cardinals go cornerback, another 278 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: position of need. Maybe not as great as edge, but 279 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: in this pass happy league, you can never have enough cornerbacks. 280 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: It is cliche, but it is true. Garrett Williams five 281 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: ten one ninety two out of Syracuse three time honorable 282 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: mention All ACC. There is a question as far as health. 283 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: He hurt his or he should say he tore his 284 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: ACL in mid October, cutting his season his last season 285 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: in half. But in his words, he should be ready 286 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: to be cleared by July. And that's the expectation. Not 287 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: going to rush anything, but there's no reason that perhaps 288 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: Williams could be available and option week one. 289 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: It seems like Williams had a good junior year. In 290 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. He started ten games, had five tackles 291 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: for lost ten PBUs, which led the ACC. And in 292 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: the half season he played last year, of the seven games, 293 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: thirty six tackles, two interceptions and three PBUs. I think 294 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: this is another player that you could also add on 295 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: special teams when you're talking about Garrett Williams or the 296 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: wide receiver Michael Wilson, who we will touch on later, 297 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: two players that are coming off injuries. So to me, 298 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: if you're going to make a draft pick like this 299 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: with Garrett Williams, that means you really trust your medical staff, 300 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: whether that was information gathered at the combine or a 301 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: thirty visit or anything like that, that you trust what 302 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: your staff is saying about the rehab process and when 303 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: they will likely be ready to come back and how 304 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: close they'll be to that same level of play. And 305 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: so to me, this says that they liked what they 306 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: saw from Garrett Williams and that they probably feel the 307 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: same way that he was said that his doctors were 308 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: telling him that he should be ready by July. And 309 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: somebody who it seems like will be ready to come 310 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: in and play this season. 311 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: You've got Marco Wilson, You've got Antonio Hamilton, you added 312 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Chris Boyd, Rashad Fenton, and then the potential of a 313 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Christian Matthew going into his second year. He's got the link. 314 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: It's just very very raw. So really that cornerback, number one, cornerback, 315 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: number two, cornerback, you're going to need three, four five 316 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: during the course of a season, maybe even in a 317 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: single game, but I think right now it is Marco 318 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Wilson Antonio Hamilton, and I think things are very open 319 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: as far as that competition to get on that field. 320 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: And the good thing with Williams, according to Manni, is 321 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: that he can play both inside and outside and plays 322 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: bigger than his five to ten frame. 323 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: All those opportunities for players to come and earn a 324 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: starting role. Also says it's pretty important to probably keep 325 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: safety but a baker out in that secondary. 326 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: And by the way, I had to look it up 327 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: just for my own well being. Garrett Williams was born 328 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand and one. 329 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 4: I'm sorry that you felt the need to look that up. 330 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: That's even one. Wow. 331 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: Well, maybe that's why I brought it up, to make 332 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: you feel just as bad as you made me feel. 333 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: Considering bad but bad. 334 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: But when I was graduating from that fine institution in 335 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: Central New York in nineteen ninety six, Garrett Williams wasn't 336 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: even a thought two thousand and one, Danny. 337 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: That's crazy, I'm getting aid. These guys are young. 338 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope they can play all right. The final 339 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: pick on Friday, with the ninety fourth overall selection, the 340 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals go wide receiver from Stanford, Michael Wilson six two 341 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: to two thirteen. Someone again with a question as far 342 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: as his health. According to Michael, he is quote fully healthy. 343 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: He suffered a broken collar bone last season. He's also 344 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: had foot issues which cut both his twenty twenty one 345 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty seasons short. But someone again, you talk 346 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: about the wide receiver position not a great position of need. 347 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: But considering the uncertainty of DeAndre Hopkins, and regardless of 348 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: what Monny has said repeatedly about Hopkins's future with the 349 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, the expectation is that d hop will not 350 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: be on this team once the season begins in twenty 351 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: twenty three. So you're gonna lose some of that height 352 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: that you have in that room. In there is where 353 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: Wilson comes in to provide some of that. 354 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: That's what I was going to touch on as the 355 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: size you bring in Zach Pascal in free agency, Who's 356 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: I believe, off the top of my head, six feet 357 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: and he's when we were out at mini camp on 358 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: the practice field out there on gosh, I don't even 359 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: know the days of the week, Wednesday, Thursday, this week, 360 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: I mean I was standing next Wednesday, thank you sitting 361 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: next to you, and he looks massive compared to the 362 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: rest of the wide receivers. That's just the reality. So 363 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 4: you're adding some height again. Another player who's had some 364 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 4: injury problems. He had a foot injury in twenty twenty 365 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: one which kept him out a few games to start 366 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: the year, and then he played his fifth year in 367 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two because of the COVID eligibility, so he 368 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: was able to play another year. He only made it 369 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: six games. He suffered a season ending collarbone injury, however, 370 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: and his conference call with the media, Craig said he 371 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 4: was fully healthy from both of those so again, similar 372 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 4: to a Garrett Williams, this to me says, you like 373 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: what you see on tape, probably a little more raw. Again, 374 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: we know that this wasn't a very deep wide receiver's 375 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: draft class. You see the potential maybe someone who plays 376 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 4: air bigger role on special teams to get out on 377 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: the field. But you trust your staff enough to know 378 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: these two players who are coming off injuries, that you 379 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: would trust your staff enough that they'll be able to 380 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: come back and be healthy and make an impact. 381 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: The speed he ran a four five eight at the 382 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: combine four five nine at his pro day. But when 383 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: you have that size, you hope that whatever separation that 384 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: you do get you make up for with your length 385 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: and obviously your hands. And he was very emphatic with 386 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: the media as far as how aggressive he is attacking 387 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: the football in the pall is thrown his way, and again, 388 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: we'll just have to wait and see when he gets 389 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: out on that field, but he sounded very confident that 390 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: he is one hundred percent and those injuries, whether it's 391 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: the collarbone or the foot, that that's behind him, and 392 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: hopefully it's a fresh start for him just his own 393 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: mindset that he can come in and is injury riddled 394 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: years at Stanford don't continue here with the Arizona Cardinals. 395 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: Injuries that are also kind of funky, not necessarily in 396 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: his control, whether or not that's a trend or not. 397 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: But look, even though you might think wide receiver day two, 398 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: round three, not every impactful player is going to be 399 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: a first or top second round player. We have seen 400 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: throughout the league. I mean numerous players who are drafted 401 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 4: and you might not think they can come in and 402 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: really make a difference, and then they have a great 403 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: training camp and they find their way onto the field 404 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: on special teams and then kind of create a role 405 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: for themselves. So I really do feel like we will 406 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: see Michael Wilson from what you were talking about, Like, 407 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: I think there is still a good chance that DeAndre 408 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: Hopkins is not on the roster come this fall and 409 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: won't be here next year, right, more than likely, So 410 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 4: at the very least, again, probably get Wilson on special 411 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: teams and really use this year to ramp him up 412 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: for next year looking ahead. 413 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Wilson also talked about the connection with another Stanford guy 414 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: that is on the Cardinals coaching staff, and that is 415 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: Drew Terrell, the former Stanford player now the Cardinals passing 416 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: game coordinator and wide receivers coach. And it was kind 417 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: of funny and I might even if I run into 418 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: coach Terrell in the hallways, Danny, because it was Michael 419 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Wilson mentioned that he wore my number. 420 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: That was the quote. 421 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: Well, Drew came before Michael, so wouldn't it be I 422 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: wore his number and the number was talking about number four, 423 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: So there might be we might need to figure things 424 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: out here because you always defer to your elders unless 425 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: you're Danny Surrek, who just runs the entire departments. 426 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, my my my mom does. But my dad 427 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 4: at least listens to this podcast. And if you're implying 428 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 4: that I'm disrespectful, no, no, not the. 429 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: Happy way, not disrespectful. 430 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: We just know, just know that I run. 431 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: Yes, well, don't for get. Also, Stanford alum Zach Ertz. 432 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: I mean they obviously didn't play together, but they have 433 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 4: some connection. I know Zach was tweeting some Stanford gift 434 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: he was excited about that. 435 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Can never have enough Stanford guys, could never have enough 436 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Syracuse guys. 437 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: M I z, do we have. 438 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: Any more of those on the roster? 439 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: Danny Ooh, I don't think so. 440 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: It might be something for you to do a little 441 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: research on or get in the air of someone in 442 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: that front. 443 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 4: Office without junk. I don't think so. 444 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: Uh oh, it's a shame. 445 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: I might have to go walk across to the football side. 446 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll go find Monty on my way out the 447 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: door and just you know, plant the seed. 448 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Well, day three, there are five opportunities to draft a 449 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: Missouri Tiger. You've got one pick in the fourth round, 450 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: two in the fifth, and two in the sixth. And 451 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: knock on wood, Danny, there is not a seventh round 452 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: selection because you and I, along with Paul Calvici, will 453 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: have Cardinals Draft Central at some point on Saturday to 454 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: recap the entire draft on for an hour. You can 455 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: check it out via the Cardinals Twitter account, YouTube channel, 456 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Easycardinals dot com, or the mobile app. Maybe a total 457 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: of nine picks. My guess it will be double figures 458 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: in draft picks, just by the way Mani has gone 459 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: so far. 460 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do not believe that Mani awesome for it 461 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: is done wheeling and dealing. He's just he likes to 462 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 4: keep us on our toes, that's for sure. And with 463 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: how things pan out when you or I are hosting 464 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: a live stream, Craig, it probably means the trades they're 465 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: going to go down when we are airing live, so 466 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 4: everyone should tune in for the fun. 467 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are two for two on Cardinals Draft Center 468 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: at least on Day one a year ago was the 469 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown trade and we just threw away everything that 470 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: we had planned. And then on Thursday this week it 471 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: was not one but two trades and we started one 472 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: stream and had to cut that off and in restart right, So. 473 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 4: We'll have a better idea Saturday late morning of the 474 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 4: exact time to start the stream, so you can just 475 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: stay locked in and all that information on our Twitter 476 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: handle at Acy Cardinals or check out our official YouTube channel. 477 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot of cool software. Obviously gonna 478 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: be breaking down the entire draft for the Cardinals, but 479 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 4: we've also got exclusive content. I sat down one on 480 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: one with Paris Johnson Junior on Friday. Craig, I'm really 481 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: excited for everyone to see your one on one. You 482 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: broke down Johnson's film with offensive line coach Clayton Adams. 483 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: Let me just clarify, I did none of the breaking down. 484 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: I enjoy watching those that either play or coach the 485 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: game that see it much differently than you or I do, 486 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: so it was a lot more of coach Adams doing 487 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: the discussion. But I'm a big fan of the All 488 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: twenty two where you can get you know, the end 489 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: zone angle, different angles than what you see on television, 490 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: and then you get the coaches clicker and you're going 491 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: back and forth and showing the footwork and just the violence. 492 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: And that was the word Parish used during his introductory 493 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: press conference that he plays with but you can even 494 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: see that with no sound, but just watching Paris Johnson 495 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: And that was something that Coach Adams walked us through 496 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll be able to get a chance to 497 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: see all of it or just a snippet of it. 498 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: I know that is going to be used also on 499 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: other features coming up, i e. 500 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: Flight Plan as well. 501 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: But I enjoy the film study just because what we 502 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: see on television we don't know what was supposed to happen. 503 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Did you make the correct read, did you make the 504 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: correct block or did you just get lucky? What was 505 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: the call from the sideline? What were you supposed to do. 506 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: A sign to do? 507 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: And then did it work out or did it not 508 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: work out? And that was one thing I'll say this 509 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: that Coach Adams did make mention of when you talk 510 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: about Paris Johnson Junior, even when he makes a mistake, 511 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: he still makes the play because of his athleticism, his quickness, 512 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: his good footwork. That he's able to be where he 513 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: is even though he might be just a tad late 514 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: or his hands aren't in the proper position. That was 515 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: something also that Coach Adams highlighted. 516 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 4: It's gonna be an exciting way to learn more about 517 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 4: the newest Arizona Cardinal. We're also adding the legendary Paul 518 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 4: Calvic to our broadcast. I said legendarygender. Is that shocking 519 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: to you that I said. 520 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: That legendary in his own mind or just. 521 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: Ummmm, no, I just said that on my own Oh okay, 522 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 4: But it should be fun with the three of us, 523 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: So make sure you join us. We're gonna be live 524 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: and then it'll feed right into general manager Many Austin 525 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: for it's final press conference wrapping up the draft. So 526 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 4: join us Saturday. 527 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: What do you want to what do you want to 528 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: see happen? Position wise? And now I know it just 529 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: it depends on how the board falls out. But in 530 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: a perfect world, perfect word, just position alone. 531 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: What still needs to be done? 532 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 4: Defensive line you need you need to start finding a 533 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: way to stop the run. That to me is probably 534 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 4: your biggest priority right now, and then I would probably 535 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 4: look at another dB. I could understand cornerback. I also 536 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 4: wouldn't mind adding some depth at safety, especially with the 537 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: question mark of Buddha Baker who requested a trade. That's 538 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 4: not to say he will get one, but after Buddha 539 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: Baker and Jalen Thompson. He's you had on the depth chart, 540 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: there's a lot of question marks, so I'd probably say 541 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: a defensive tackle, a dB, and then from there, I 542 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 4: think you just kind of look at center. Oh, center's 543 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: pretty high on the list as well. Shoot, those would 544 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: be my top three. I would probably rank those as Honestly, 545 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: I'd probably put center with where you are right now. 546 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: I'd probably change that around and make center my top need, 547 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: defensive tackle right behind it, and then a dB. And 548 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: then as you go down, you start looking for those 549 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: players where you really like the potential and maybe they'd 550 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: become a practice squad player or they ball out at 551 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: training camp and they find a way again through special teams, 552 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: having some sort of special role on this team. And 553 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about those positions like tight end, running back, 554 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: another wide receiver. You'll probably draft a quarterback because you 555 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: typically draft one late, although I think the Cardinals could 556 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: get by with David blou Jeff driscoll, and Colt McCoy 557 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: right now. And of course you're going to sign a 558 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: bunch of free agents as soon as the draft ends. 559 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 4: I mean, those phone lines are crazy in the war 560 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: room for every team with agents signing players who went undrafted. 561 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: But I would probably go back to my top needs 562 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: being the center in defensive tackle. 563 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: I'd agree with that because especially that interior of the 564 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: defensive line, the interior of the offensive line. When you 565 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: get to Day three and a fourth, fifth or sixth 566 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: round pick and you draft a center, are they capable 567 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: of coming in right away and being your starter or 568 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: to like you said, it's more about the future, whether 569 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 1: it's late in the season or next season. You do have, 570 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: yelled to Froholt, you do have Lucida Smith. As far 571 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: as as the centers are concerned, do they add to 572 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: that position, maybe a veteran and free agency and then 573 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: bring someone else along Lacitus remember all off season in 574 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: training camp was working at center, and all of a 575 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: sudden he got his start at guard. So now he's 576 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: trying to work his way back. And forro Holt is 577 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: the only one with starting experience on this roster, and 578 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: that was only a handful of games. 579 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: Say, I believe it was like four snaps or four 580 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: games that he has experience as a center in the NFL. 581 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: Matt. 582 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: When you talk about offensive line defensive line, they're not 583 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: sexy positions as far as the skilled position players are concerned. 584 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: But that's where you win ball games is at the 585 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. 586 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: That's when you notice. It makes a big difference when 587 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: you are lacking in those positions. 588 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: I kept you well past your bedtime. 589 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 4: You did by about three minutes, was my request, Craig. 590 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: But that's okay. I'll get you back tomorrow on the 591 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: live stream. 592 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: Don't you worry sleep fast. A reminder Bird Gang Cardinals 593 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Draft Central on Saturday to wrap up the entire draft, 594 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: including the five picks that we know of at the 595 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: moment as we speak to here on Friday evening. Cardinals 596 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: Twitter account, YouTube channel, Easycardinals dot com or the mobile 597 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: app to follow it all. Myself, Danny and Paul CALVC 598 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals Draft Central on Saturday. And on that note, we 599 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, 600 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: presented by Yundai, proudly partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 601 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim A. Mahudro for 602 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Danny sirek, I'm Craig Realdu. We'll talk to you next 603 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: time here on Cardinals Cover two.