WEBVTT - Reflections on Bears' initial 53-man roster moves | Bears, etc. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Cut over that DJ Moore episode Touchdown Touchdown Pairs. I

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<v Speaker 1>am Jeff jonihat Witz is.

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<v Speaker 2>On Dottie go up.

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<v Speaker 1>What was like playing for Coche Googdom.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to answer any questions like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Pressure coming is a big trouble Doti gos motest Sweat.

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<v Speaker 3>Bears, et Cetera brought to you by Miller Lighte with

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<v Speaker 3>the voices of the Bears, Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well cut down day of the NFL is a very

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<v Speaker 1>personal matter, tough day for a large number of players

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<v Speaker 1>who go through a wide range of emotions from the

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<v Speaker 1>expectation they might be let go to absolute shot. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode eighty eight of the Bears et Cetera podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Miller Lte. Assistant gm Ian Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>did an interview with the thirty third team balancing the

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<v Speaker 1>excitement of the final fifty three in the season and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven guys that essentially Tom Thayer would be getting

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<v Speaker 1>fired sixteen could be back on the practice squad. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not fun. He was released. You've been cut before. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest conversation you have to go through. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time you're excited for the season if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the front office, so it's a weird feeling in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. Can you relate to all that emotion right there?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>The incredible sense of accomplishment when I was with the

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago Bears was leaving Platteviell, Wisconsin and looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>campus in your room rearview mirror and thinking, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>got over the first hurtle and I made the football team.

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<v Speaker 3>But the head coach will come into the room after that,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty three assembles for the first time, and they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to give the speech, and everybody gives it, and the

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<v Speaker 3>same speech every year is look, this is not a

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<v Speaker 3>finished product. This is not a finished roster. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you think you've made the team for now and forever

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't continue to work, we'll look to replace you.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's always a little bit of apprehension with the

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<v Speaker 3>good news of making a football team, but there's a

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<v Speaker 3>certain sense of accomplishment when you walk out of training

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<v Speaker 3>camp and you've kind of earned the opportunity unity to

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<v Speaker 3>have a position on a football team.

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<v Speaker 1>The practice squad will be put together announced later on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Among the cuts that we're not going to go through

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<v Speaker 1>each and every one. Is there anything that sticks out

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<v Speaker 1>to you, I'll jump in right away before you give

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<v Speaker 1>a give us your thought, but not a surprise. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would have really loved to find a place for

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<v Speaker 1>Reddy Stewart, the young cornerback. My guess is he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice squad. Micah Baskerville has done a nice

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<v Speaker 1>job both as a linebacker, but the Bears are really

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<v Speaker 1>strong at linebacker, and he's a very good special teams player.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the tight end position Steven Carlson, Brendan Bates.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the areas that I was going to look at.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, it's a numbers game time because as a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of how many offensive linemen you want to keep,

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<v Speaker 1>how many defensive linemen you keep, those are the big

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<v Speaker 1>numbers right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, guys like Strohman who had some game

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<v Speaker 3>action understand what a contributor is on special teams. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a multi talented kid and can play a couple different positions.

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<v Speaker 2>Carls Jones Junior. I thought it was a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That puts some ability on display in the Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Fame game and throughout training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>He runs really well.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe he's the type of guy that could come

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<v Speaker 3>back to a practice squad Brendan Bates, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he really had a chance to make this

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<v Speaker 3>football team. And if he doesn't get picked up by

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else, maybe he will come back to the Bears,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's definitely a guy that I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>invest some time, some coaching, some weight room, some dietitians

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<v Speaker 3>in because I think he could grow into a quality

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<v Speaker 3>tight end. And we know how many injuries there are

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<v Speaker 3>in that position. And I'm confused about the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 3>You got rid of ripping, you got rid of read,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you have two guys on the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was that third guy gonna be?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they target a guy with as on another roster

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<v Speaker 3>on another team that they fill can come in here

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<v Speaker 3>and fill the void, or do they still have one

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<v Speaker 3>of those two guys as a Canada come here and

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<v Speaker 3>be that practice squad quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's possibility both could be on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>The veteran influence in the young developing quarter back and read.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of folks are wondering what was going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen with Vaylis Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of always wanted He left me wanting more

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<v Speaker 3>because when Vaylas Jones Junior came aboard the Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 3>we knew that he was a mature guy coming out

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<v Speaker 3>of college.

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<v Speaker 2>He was older than most of the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>He has some really good qualities about him in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of side speed, a thick body. But you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>they gave him an opportunity as a wide receiver, he

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<v Speaker 3>never came up with a big catch. When they allowed

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<v Speaker 3>him be a punt returner, he made more you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fumbles and drops than he did good secure catches. And

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<v Speaker 3>we all know what the return game wasn't last year,

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<v Speaker 3>but what it's becoming this year. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of body styles that are changing in the returner and

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<v Speaker 3>another running back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>A plug and play type of position. I think you

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<v Speaker 3>need to develop the instincts and the sight lines of

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<v Speaker 3>a running back that can really help you turn the

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<v Speaker 3>corner or become the running back that's expected of you,

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<v Speaker 3>especially at this level.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the guys that I'm super happy for

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<v Speaker 1>is Daniel Hardy. He makes the football team at least

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<v Speaker 1>right now with Montes Sweat, Austin Booker, DeMarcus Walker, Darryl Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>dom Robinson, and Daniel Hardy. Daniel really put forth some

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<v Speaker 1>great tape this preseason. Was one of the NFC leaders

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<v Speaker 1>in sacks with three and a half. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>just preseason, but he had to play that way to

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<v Speaker 1>make this football team and he did. He hustles. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy hustles, and he could play special teams, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm glad you said that, because the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to mind when you talk about Daniel Hardy

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<v Speaker 1>is israel A Donaja.

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<v Speaker 3>Israel A Donaje was a guy that kind of could

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<v Speaker 3>play up and down the defensive line of scrimmage. But

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<v Speaker 3>he is one of the greatest contributors on special teams

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<v Speaker 3>of all big guys that I think I've ever been around.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know kickoff coverage has changed a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Hardy has the size, the athleticism, the escapability, the

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<v Speaker 3>tackling ability to go out there and be a contributor

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<v Speaker 3>at that position and probably on punt team on the

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<v Speaker 3>interior as well. So that's the one thing about Daniel Hardy.

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<v Speaker 3>He created his own opportunity because when Jacob Martin got

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<v Speaker 3>hurt early in training camp, that kind of moves everybody

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<v Speaker 3>in that line up one person, But I mean, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you react to that advancement in that line? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you duck your head in the sand and hope you

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<v Speaker 3>don't get seen, or do you raise your hand like

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<v Speaker 3>the smartest kid in the class and provide the right

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<v Speaker 3>answer every time?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>And Martin he would be an ir with a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to return as he continues his rehab. Same story for

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Borum at offensive tackle. Others on the injured reserve

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<v Speaker 1>list symbol Webster Dante Pettis do one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to interrupt you do we know the story of

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been cut, yes, so he could be signed back

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<v Speaker 1>to the practice squad. He could be signed back.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he would be the type of guy that

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<v Speaker 3>if I felt through a training staff that he's the

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<v Speaker 3>type of guy that could stay healthy for the long term,

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<v Speaker 3>that I would possibly bringing back on the training camp

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<v Speaker 3>because I know that he didn't contribute until late in

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<v Speaker 3>the season last year. And if that's the guy you

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<v Speaker 3>always need waiting in the wings when conditions deteriorate and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you start running the ball a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a good blocker from the wide receiver position.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, wherever you want to categorize Dayless Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just as a utility man. There's six wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster and they all are unique in their

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<v Speaker 1>own way. Obviously with more Alan Aduonsay Tyler Scott, DeAndre

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<v Speaker 1>Carter was a good chance to be the punt return

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<v Speaker 1>man or the kickoff for turnman or both, and Vayless

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<v Speaker 1>Jones the corners, heavy heavy corner. All of them can play.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Johnson, Tyreek Stevenson, Kyler Gordon, Terrell Smith, Jalen Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Blackwell all play roles. There will be several of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys that are impact players on special teams, and

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<v Speaker 1>it gives you a lot of depth at all three

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<v Speaker 1>of those cornerback positions, including nickel Tommy.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably the most important position to have depth on in

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<v Speaker 3>the modern day NFL of any other position that you

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<v Speaker 3>can talk about, because to me, cornerback outs of quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>is the most difficult position in the NFL to fine talent,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you talk about those number of guys that

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<v Speaker 3>are that talented, if there is any type of hiccup

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<v Speaker 3>with injury during the course of the season, you have

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<v Speaker 3>a plug and play cornerback that's difficult to find.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff, Joniak and Tom there with you here on Bears

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<v Speaker 1>et Cetera, Episode eighty eight. It's brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>two cars per twelve ounces. Okay, take me back to

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<v Speaker 1>your time. What that moment is like from your own

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<v Speaker 1>experience and what you've heard from others over the years

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<v Speaker 1>when they do get that call or when you were

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<v Speaker 1>called into Coach Wantstat's office and you know what we're gon,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna move on, and you landed with the Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your personal emotion.

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<v Speaker 3>Such disappointment, such failure, self self failure. I was coming

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<v Speaker 3>off of back surgery and I did I probably did

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<v Speaker 3>and live up to what the expectations were of Tony Weiss,

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<v Speaker 3>the offensive line coach, and Dave Wanstead and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Girling going with a younger group of guys. I hold

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<v Speaker 3>no grudges before because of that. The difference is they

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<v Speaker 3>always used to get you get a phone call from

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<v Speaker 3>the secretary and Mary called me up and she said

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<v Speaker 3>Tom coach Wantstead wants to see you and bring in

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<v Speaker 3>your playbook. So there I carry in my three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>page playbook that's in a binder that after you give

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<v Speaker 3>it to that secretary, you know exactly what's coming next. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 3>they just whitewashed you from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Tablet and you're not carrying anything in with you.

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<v Speaker 3>So the difference in the modern day trimming down the

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<v Speaker 3>rosters different than the old school trimming down to the roster.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I said, I was proud of what I

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<v Speaker 3>accomplished with the Chicago Bears. I held no grudges. By

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<v Speaker 3>the time that I was cut, I got home and

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<v Speaker 3>I already had calls from four teams that wanted me

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<v Speaker 3>to fly in for a tryout, Washington Redskins being one

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<v Speaker 3>of them, Redskins at the time, Miami Dolphins being one

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<v Speaker 3>of them, and Miami Dolphins needed help immediately. And so

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<v Speaker 3>when you think about the fantasy of playing on a

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<v Speaker 3>football team that's not in the Midwest, that you see

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<v Speaker 3>these players that are ten all year round, I was going, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that may be a chance to explore the AFC passing

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<v Speaker 3>game football that I'm not really familiar with from playing

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFC, So I went down there and had

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<v Speaker 3>a great opportunity to play there for a year. But

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<v Speaker 3>that initial call that you get one of the secretaries

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<v Speaker 3>on the other end of the phone, it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>gives you that nervousness and the pit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of your stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether you get a call the hey, the doctor wants

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<v Speaker 3>to see you, or Hey, your principal needs to see you,

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<v Speaker 3>or the dean of students needs to see you, it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of those calls that gives you an immediate queasy

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<v Speaker 3>feeling in your stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>And it did.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thirty three, thirty two years old, and I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like I was being called into Dean Roads office

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<v Speaker 3>at Julia Katholic.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a great article on the Tribune on a Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>of my Brad Biggs. He repurposed a story he did

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago with Jeremy Snyder, a friend of ours

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<v Speaker 1>who used to work in the Bears video department and

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<v Speaker 1>now in the scout for the Canadian Football League. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was the Turk and guys would hide. They try

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<v Speaker 1>to find veterans that may have known it was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't find him, but he had They had to

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<v Speaker 1>find him. Was a face to face thing it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call. You had to face him face to face.

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<v Speaker 1>So just extraordinary stories. Indeed, and I'm certain it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that way now and it's more of a congenial conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, come to the office and here we go, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in our day, before the invention of cell phones

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<v Speaker 3>and text messages and emails and that type of contact,

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<v Speaker 3>you could hear a faint knocko ound in the platt

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<v Speaker 3>filled dorm room at five o'clock in the morning, at

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<v Speaker 3>five thirty in the morning, and it would be the

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<v Speaker 3>turk of that time, would open the door, aren't say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>coach wants to see you, and you'd see that poor

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<v Speaker 3>guy walking down the hallway with his playbook in hand,

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<v Speaker 3>and then coming back to his dorm room, no playbook

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<v Speaker 3>in hand, and with the door open inside their packing.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the most difficult things is friendships

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<v Speaker 3>before cuts, because you don't necessarily make friendships before cuts,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't want to become close to a person

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<v Speaker 3>that you're either competing against or you kind of feel

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<v Speaker 3>that they're gonna get cut. And because that instant in time,

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<v Speaker 3>that instant of uh, you know, you're not you you

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<v Speaker 3>are on your way to adulthood, but you're still trying

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<v Speaker 3>to compete to play a sport, and it's a it's

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<v Speaker 3>a tough couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears, et cetera is brought to you by a P

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<v Speaker 1>at the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it's bigger, it's bigger, it's better, it's faster,

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<v Speaker 1>it's deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you agree? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And okay, what's what's bigger, what's better, what's faster? The

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver position is faster. Defensive backs are fast. The

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<v Speaker 3>linebacker position is gonna play faster because now they have experience,

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<v Speaker 3>Tremaine Edmunds and TJ. Edwards and so those guys are

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<v Speaker 3>going to play a faster brand of football along with

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Sanborn and the rest of the crew. The defensive

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<v Speaker 3>line is bigger. When you look at your Von Dexter,

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<v Speaker 3>you will have what you have in Billings. You have

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<v Speaker 3>what you have in Montes sweat. He's a big man,

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<v Speaker 3>and you the rest of the crew that's gonna fit in, Uh, defensively,

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<v Speaker 3>how they're going to fit in offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Darnell Wright is a big man, so is Braxton Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>They have some size on the inside with Tevin Jenkins

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<v Speaker 3>and Hope you get consistency at the right guy, right guard.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have Coleman Shelton right now at the center position.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. The tight end position is big with Mercedes and Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know Cole and the rest of the the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the crew there.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Bryor on the offensive line, a big man who

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<v Speaker 1>can play three positions.

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<v Speaker 3>Huge man, big, big man. And you know the running

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<v Speaker 3>back position's quality. I think DeAndre Swift is a great

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<v Speaker 3>addition to this group of guys that came in here

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<v Speaker 3>and made the position even more competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>We always talk about players, but let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff. I think Maddie Refluse is in the right

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<v Speaker 1>sweet spot right now for him. He's the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>of this football team, but he's also going to be

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<v Speaker 1>calling defensive plays and that's where his heart is. He

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like it feels to me anyway, not from

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth, these are my words. It just feels this

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<v Speaker 1>is right in his wheelhouse. Okay, and he's managing the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got twenty five twenty six assistant coaches on this

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<v Speaker 1>staff to help him out. And then you got the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, Shan Waldohn. He's impressed us both not only

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<v Speaker 1>is in his demeanor, his understanding and explanation of what

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to do, but also in what he's called,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the preseason balance. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know one thing about Mattie Refluse, since he took

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<v Speaker 3>over play calling last year, that's undeniable. The defense got better,

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<v Speaker 3>and whenever you have the head coach that's making the

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<v Speaker 3>calls on defense, you have a certain you capture the

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<v Speaker 3>player's attention with a little bit more seriousness. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the addition to Eric Washington, defensive coordinator, is a great

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<v Speaker 3>addition to the intelligence of the staff. He's a really

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<v Speaker 3>good person. He relates really well to these football players

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a lot of respect for him. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's all the other assistant coaches on defense as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Eberflus is also a good influence on a young

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback because he knows exactly what a defense is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do to defense against the quarterback they're playing against,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that relatable message to a young quarterback like

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams is super influential and educational in the development stages.

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<v Speaker 3>And listen, I don't know Shane Waldron very well yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but from what I see out of him and the

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<v Speaker 3>way he calls the game in training camps and the

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<v Speaker 3>training camp games and in practices itself, and when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the balance and the inclusion of everybody, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>super excited to see where this regular season is going

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<v Speaker 3>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first portion of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>and three point two carbs for twelve ounces. So the

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<v Speaker 1>owners passed a new rule that would have allowed a

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<v Speaker 1>third quarterback to be elevated from the practice squad an

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited number of game days. So the NFLPA rejected that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the proposed change of a quarterback emergency role was tabled.

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<v Speaker 1>So that impacts well you do now with the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bret Rippin, for example, he had one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one point four quarterback rating in the preseason look

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<v Speaker 1>great and can look very very good, and is a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran guy that can provide some help in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're going to choose address a third quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>on game day, you got to keep him on the

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<v Speaker 1>active roster. Now, you can be elevated off the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can only be done three times on game day.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you feel about this rule? Obviously it's

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<v Speaker 1>about money the Union would like to pay a third quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>but this would have been a good move for the

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<v Speaker 1>entire NFL given how many quarterbacks the league has gone

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<v Speaker 1>through the last two years.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the dumber rejections of a smart rule I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard in a long time in the NFL. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know me, I don't agree with a lot of these changes,

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, just to analogize baseball, do you like

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<v Speaker 3>to see a position player come in and throw batting

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<v Speaker 3>practice when they're right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's the same thing with football.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to see a clever wide receiver or

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<v Speaker 3>a running back or whomever take over at the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>position if you have multiple injuries? So you have this

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<v Speaker 3>third guy that's sitting on the sideline, and how about

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<v Speaker 3>this put him on the roster. If he doesn't play

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<v Speaker 3>in the game, you pay him whatever his practice squad

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<v Speaker 3>salary is. If he does play in the game, then

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<v Speaker 3>you elevate that week's check to a game day check Listen, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to indeed multiple quarterbacks the game day roster,

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<v Speaker 3>and like the rule says, once you put them in

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<v Speaker 3>the game, they're there to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, just a dumb decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's failing the game day roster of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me say this about because people have asked

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<v Speaker 1>me that you know, don't know all the interestcases of

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<v Speaker 1>the salary capitold or what a paycheck is for a

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad player. So the minimum salary is twelve thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred a week. If you have two years experience,

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum is sixteen eight hundred per week. Maximum salary

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one thousand, three hundred per week, So over an

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen week regular season, if you are on the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you get elevated three times your salary you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be elevated three times, but your salary

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<v Speaker 1>is anywhere between two hundred and twenty five grand and

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and eighty three thousand, four hundred dollars annually,

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<v Speaker 1>more than I ever made.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean right, got on the practice squad, never worried

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<v Speaker 3>about playing in the games, go out there and give

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<v Speaker 3>my great padded effort one day a week for fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>weeks and get paid that salary.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty handsome and so uh yeah, I mean listen.

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<v Speaker 3>It creates a lot of incentive for these guys to

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<v Speaker 3>go out there and put in the same offseason effort,

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<v Speaker 3>in the same seasonal effort to make the practice squad

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<v Speaker 3>as you do to make an active roster.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of other things, Since the twenty two quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>class was selected, there's only two players left on their

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<v Speaker 1>original teams at quarterback. So pick number two forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>Skyler Thompson to Miami and picked two sixty two Brock

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<v Speaker 1>Paridy of San Francisco League. Willis traded to the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers number eighty six. So this is the status

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<v Speaker 1>of quarterback play. Twenty twenty one wasn't a heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better in terms of that too, So you

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<v Speaker 1>really are swinging for quarterbacks. Much to your point about

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<v Speaker 1>the rule, this league is thirsty for quarterbacks and that

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<v Speaker 1>and three deep would be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's well, it's one of the most difficult positions to scout,

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<v Speaker 3>along with cornerback, because you don't know on cornerback if

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<v Speaker 3>athleticism is going to compute to what you need in

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<v Speaker 3>order to perfect the position. Same thing with quarterback. So

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<v Speaker 3>from cornerback to quarterback. From what the college day offers

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<v Speaker 3>these guys nowadays, they hold up a poster on the sideline,

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<v Speaker 3>they look to the sideline, everybody gets their assignment. The

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback collaps his hands and they run the play accordingly

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<v Speaker 3>the terminology that you have to master as an NFL quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>and then how it relates to vision, and then how

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<v Speaker 3>it relates the decision making and then accuracy. It's such

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<v Speaker 3>a difficult position to scout because if you think of

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<v Speaker 3>some of the guys that were less than caliber athletes

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<v Speaker 3>of the Peyton Mannings or the Tom Brady's or the

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<v Speaker 3>Marinos that ran a five plus forty, and now you

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<v Speaker 3>get these guys that ran four four forty, you think

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to compute to be in a great quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>We are brought to you by PNC Official Bank of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. All right, Tom, I gave you a homework assignment,

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<v Speaker 1>camp balls. You're the king of the camp balls. We

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<v Speaker 1>used to give those every day during training camp. So

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you to do some homework here. So camp

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<v Speaker 1>ball on offense this year, and then we'll hit defense

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<v Speaker 1>in special teams.

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<v Speaker 3>You go first, Okay, And I know it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>disappoint you so much, but I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>joy in this. And it's yeah, Caleb is the easy choice.

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<v Speaker 3>But my offensive campboy ball is going to Coleman Shelton.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll tell you why, Doug. Listen to be easy

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<v Speaker 3>to go to. You know, to Caleb Williams obviously, but

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<v Speaker 3>to me, Coleman Shelton has done the most for this

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line than any other offensive lineman. Has uncertainty at

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback position, uncertainty at the center. Now after Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>David Ryan Bates had to go over and play right

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<v Speaker 3>guard a little bit, then Coleman Shelton came in and

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<v Speaker 3>played center.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave consistency to the position, consistency to the rhythm

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<v Speaker 2>of the offensive line, the responsibility of understanding how to

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<v Speaker 2>call out all the protections when you approach the line

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<v Speaker 2>of scrimmage, and then how to change the protection responsibilities

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<v Speaker 2>if the quarterback has to change play during the cadence,

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<v Speaker 2>and then just giving the quarterback some veteran leadership of

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that knows how to play the position. So

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<v Speaker 2>Coleman Shelton come on down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it. Why wouldn't I like it? He

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<v Speaker 1>played seventeen games for the Rams last year. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>this system very well. Mine's going to go to Keenan

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<v Speaker 1>Allen because his reputation preceded himself and it was everything

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be. He's a magnificent route runner.

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<v Speaker 1>He creates separation as well as anybody ever has, and

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<v Speaker 1>he made players on the other side of the ball better.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we saw Jalen Johnson elevate his game because

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<v Speaker 1>of Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen gave him props too, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought they hold iron Sharpen's iron thing. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a no brainer for me. Keenan l and I

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<v Speaker 1>think as camp wore on, he got better and better

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<v Speaker 1>every day, gave full effort throughout training camp. How about

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball, I'm gonna go with Daniel Hardy And this is

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<v Speaker 3>why he's another guy that they had. He had multiple

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<v Speaker 3>bodies in front of him, and he was in the

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<v Speaker 3>back of the line, not in the front of the line.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's still in the line. And if that's what

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<v Speaker 3>you want to accomplish at the end of training camp,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing more gratifying than taking a former basketball player

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<v Speaker 3>that puts skills on display and then repeats that performance

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<v Speaker 3>every training camp game.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they have a team come.

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<v Speaker 3>In and he does equally as well on one on

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<v Speaker 3>ones against the Cincinnati Bengals in practice and then carries

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<v Speaker 3>it out to the game field. As soon as there's

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<v Speaker 3>someone that's injured in front of you. In the sport

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<v Speaker 3>of professional and professional football especially, how does that next

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<v Speaker 3>guy in line do? Do you have to go out

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<v Speaker 3>there and look for another body or is that guy

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<v Speaker 3>filling the void in Daniel Hardy congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>On the defensive side of the ball. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with Jalen Johnson. The leadership aspect is popping for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He has the ear of those guys in the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>and as that goes, as he goes, they go, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think his emotion spreads his confidence, his cockiness, not

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<v Speaker 1>in a negative way, in a positive way. Believes in

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<v Speaker 1>himself more than anybody else in the world. He looks

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror and likes what he sees. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that spreads throughout a football team special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the easy choice would be Tory Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's my choice.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not taking him, okay, But you know the by

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<v Speaker 3>guy though, is Josh Blackwell. I would because he's another

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<v Speaker 3>guy that plays every special teams. He could be the

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<v Speaker 3>special teams captain every week. He makes big open field tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>He's every every team contributor outside of being an interior

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<v Speaker 3>lineman on the extra point and.

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<v Speaker 2>Field goal block. So Josh Blackwell a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's coming to the NFL and now he's made it

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<v Speaker 3>multiple years because he's a top special team performer.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on down, Josh Blackwell.

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<v Speaker 3>You're getting the practice, you're getting the official team's ball

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<v Speaker 3>of camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it recent Taylor not just because of his

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<v Speaker 1>reputation as just an outstanding pun our great leg. You

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<v Speaker 1>heard the kicks, you heard the booms, the placement, the accuracy.

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<v Speaker 1>He led the NFC in net average here in the

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<v Speaker 1>preseason at forty eight plus. So that's just part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his personality, it's his ability to handle snaps, which

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<v Speaker 1>from a different long snapper than Patrick Scales required some adjustment.

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<v Speaker 1>He managed that situation in weather. He managed that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tory Taylor and play a lot of football until college.

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<v Speaker 1>None as a matter of fact. So we're just starting

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<v Speaker 1>to see the best of this player. I think he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a weapon this year. Best rookie at Camp and

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<v Speaker 1>you can include Caleb Williams, you have to. I know

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<v Speaker 1>some people are doing this exercise and excluding him, but

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<v Speaker 1>best rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>At camp, best rookie at camp. You know, Brendan Bates,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked him. I know he's not here anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think he'll be on the practice squad, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, hopefully, so hopefully.

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<v Speaker 3>So I I do like what I what I saw

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<v Speaker 3>out of him, because again we talk about the versatility

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<v Speaker 3>of the tight end position, the multiple roles that they

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<v Speaker 3>have to present themselves in order to catch catch the

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<v Speaker 3>coach's eye.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, hopefully he's going to be a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's either going to be in the NFL or he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be part of the Bears, because I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that he's got a few a contributing future.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's only so many six four, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five pounders that run for six and wants to

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<v Speaker 1>hit you and catch the football and railroad through you.

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<v Speaker 2>And can play special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, to hit you. Yeah, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that player quite a bit. And you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>me say it time and time again. Okay, last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things we hit was the kickoff return. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give you mind. So I'm picking Caleb, and here

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<v Speaker 1>are my reasons. He's the real deal in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>his per What we read, what we heard, what we

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<v Speaker 1>what we have experienced, more importantly, face to face is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna take my evaluation on. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he never flinched. He never will. I just this man

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<v Speaker 1>is never gonna flinch, and that's why he has the

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<v Speaker 1>potential to be great. He grew as a quarterback throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this whole process. I think you would agree, never rattled

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<v Speaker 1>by that aggressive defense, and I think they gave him

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<v Speaker 1>an earfull throughout preseason entraining camp. He talked recently in

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<v Speaker 1>an interview about competitive stamina, reaching out to various leaders

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>in sports. Sitting down with Michael Jordan's trainer and good friend,

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<v Speaker 1>of ours, which we hope we can get on this podcast,

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Tim Grover to find out what was it about Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he read about Kolby. He was more of

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<v Speaker 1>a Kobe experienced guy at a younger age, didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to watch MJ firsthand. But are those are decisions made

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody who understands what he wants to be and

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be great. So I'm going with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the actual play experience, the official movements in

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<v Speaker 1>and around the pocket, the instinctual awareness to see what's

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<v Speaker 1>coming and keep your eyes downfield to throw the football.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I still go back to this, the weapon

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<v Speaker 1>way around you. Hopefully the offensive line stays together. If

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<v Speaker 1>you just find first downs, the touchdowns are going to follow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, I'm not disappointed by Caleb in any way,

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<v Speaker 3>shape or for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's been a cool teammate.

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<v Speaker 3>And as much as I didn't want to see hard knocks,

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<v Speaker 3>I like to see a little bit about the behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes of Caleb Williams in practice and in meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you went with some creative ideas. I

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<v Speaker 1>went with the chalk you know. Oh, that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how we roll because you're you're a thinker. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a thinker, all right, gentleman by the name of Ted Winn,

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<v Speaker 1>he writes for The Athletic, did his own research. Since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, the average starting position after kickoff twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>point two. This preseason, the average starting position was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven point nine. Little improvement with the new role. Again

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<v Speaker 1>with no nobody's showing anything since twenty twenty, only fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>percent let's call it fifteen percent of kickoffs we return

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty plus in the preseason and went up to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two percent. And the thing he really realized is

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<v Speaker 1>that speed on the back end, obviously, boss security has

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<v Speaker 1>always got to be number one, even on this kick return. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if there's going to be bouncing balls and pop

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<v Speaker 1>ups that are in bad weather and you happen to muffet,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be on it. Speed is going to threaten

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<v Speaker 1>that line of scrimmage a lot quicker. So you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see speed back there almost every time, with some

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<v Speaker 1>variation in terms of guys can break tackles to just

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<v Speaker 1>execute a running play. So it's trending in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you agree to these stats, albeit preseason encourage.

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<v Speaker 2>You, yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to see the kickoff return back in the

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<v Speaker 3>game of football. But to me, if I was a

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<v Speaker 3>special teams coach, the first thing I would do is

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<v Speaker 3>put offensive linemen on my kickoff return because I think

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<v Speaker 3>you can have more organized types of blocking plays that

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<v Speaker 3>are blockers at the point of attack. They know how

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<v Speaker 3>to sustain a block longer than defensive players do. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the thing about it, is the proximity of the

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<v Speaker 3>kick returner to where that confrontation takes place. If you

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<v Speaker 3>get an offensive lineman that can sustain a block maybe

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<v Speaker 3>three quarters of a second to a half a second longer,

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about the ball carrier breaking a play for distance. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you try to repetitively teach a linebacker a defensive

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<v Speaker 3>back to have a sustained block and something that they

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<v Speaker 3>don't do for the process of their career and their job,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just not going to be as familiar with it

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<v Speaker 3>as offensive players were. So tight ends offensive linemen, I

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<v Speaker 3>would have them on my front line of blockers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me just ask you this question. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>been a real hesitance in today today's game to put

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<v Speaker 1>starters on special teams. Would you have starting offensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>And golf return my whole career.

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<v Speaker 3>And the answer if you're doing if you're not doing

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<v Speaker 3>something out of fear, then you know, you know that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's super destructive. And I'm not saying that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to use your starters on there. You know you have

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<v Speaker 3>backup tight ends, you have backup offensive linemen, and to

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<v Speaker 3>keep those guys actively involved in the game is get

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<v Speaker 3>them on kickoff return and then so so so you

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<v Speaker 3>create a you know, we used to have a blocking

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<v Speaker 3>scheme and offense in on in college we played a

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<v Speaker 3>quick side and a strong side. So there was a

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<v Speaker 3>year that I played quick guard, so that means I

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<v Speaker 3>played both right and left guard, and I did a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more maneuverability. And then you play strong side where

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<v Speaker 3>there's a little bit more point of attack and a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more strength influence to that side. You can

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<v Speaker 3>do it on as an offensive line and offenses back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day. I think nowadays you can get equally

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<v Speaker 3>as creative with the types of blockers that you have

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<v Speaker 3>a valuable to you on kickoff return then any new

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<v Speaker 3>part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me from play to play on a series,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd go you the right or left?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, didn't miss up. Nope, it's trunk side, quick side,

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of your stance. Nothing right hand, left hand,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Right handed stance all the time, even at as the

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<v Speaker 2>left guard.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it tip off though what you guys might be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a trend? Or if you're okay? That's again,

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<v Speaker 1>every time I talk to you, there's something new I learned.

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew you did that, So that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you got you don't have to shy away

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<v Speaker 3>from I'm telling Coleman that I did pick him for

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<v Speaker 3>my offensive player.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you'll tell them anyway. You will tell them

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. For tent there, I'm Jeff Joniack. Thanks for listening. Everybody.

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