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Speaker 1: What's up his way up with angela guy? And definitely

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Speaker 1: where yet Bounty Tink is back. Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot that happened since last time you

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm blessed to be First off, let me

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Speaker 2: give the grace, the glory the God to even be

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Speaker 2: here sitting with you again. Yes, it's been a lot,

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Speaker 2: but I'm here blessed man.

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Speaker 3: You had and we'll get right into it.

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Speaker 1: You had an incident where you almost lost your life

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Speaker 1: while you were working as a bounty hunter, a Belle bondsman.

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Speaker 1: And it was a situation where you went someplace and

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Speaker 1: going to apprehend an eighteen year old right who what

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Speaker 1: had he done? He didn't show up for an appearance, He.

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Speaker 2: Missed court, but his original charges was just it was domestic.

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Speaker 1: Violence, okay, yeah, and you went to go find him

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Speaker 1: in Akron, Ohio, went.

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Speaker 2: To Farm Agron. I believe it might have been a setup.

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Speaker 3: Why do you say that?

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Speaker 2: Just because I really now just listen to the audio

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Speaker 2: of them calling in to the police, and I heard

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Speaker 2: one of them say, we were getting attacked by a

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Speaker 2: guy in the black ski mask.

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Speaker 3: So and you did not have on the it's all over.

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Speaker 2: To they seen. You can see the footage there's no mask,

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Speaker 2: so it led me to believe it might have been

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that the footage exists, right, and he did

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Speaker 1: you can see there's no black ski mask.

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Speaker 3: So okay.

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Speaker 1: To me, it feels like there's something more to pursue

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Speaker 1: in that situation because literally, you were in the hospital

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Speaker 1: for four months, six months, six months and the bullets

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Speaker 1: just narrowly missed. You had on a bulletproof vest, but

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Speaker 1: you said they shot down, So actually happen.

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Speaker 2: I was running this way and it hit the side

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Speaker 2: my chest two centimeters from my heart.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: You know. So this is something that you feel like

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Speaker 1: because I can't understand why would the police see this

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Speaker 2: It's more so the prosecutor. He's the one that decided,

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Speaker 2: you know, because in Ohio is to standard ground law

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Speaker 2: not in a place where I want to pursue anything.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm happy to be alive.

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Speaker 2: Happy. I'm not mad at the young man, you know,

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Speaker 2: I hope he turned his life around. I'm just in

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Speaker 3: Did you feel he was apologetic?

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to or any remorse. I don't know

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure the other age of the young person,

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Speaker 2: I have I heard anything.

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Speaker 3: No, what is your relationship? Then?

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Speaker 1: I want to ask with like law enforcement were prosecutors,

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Speaker 2: I have personal relationships with some of the local PD,

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Speaker 1: But don't these all kind of work hand in hand,

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Speaker 1: So how would you explain it if somebody was like, well,

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Speaker 2: So basically, I'm a baillbon I bail people out of

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Speaker 2: I'm just a continuation of imprisonment. That's it. So the

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Speaker 1: And you're a you're a Bellbind's bean and a bounty hunter.

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Speaker 1: Are you still planning? Because this is to me. I

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Speaker 1: I watch your YouTube channel, so I have a chance

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Speaker 1: But then this incident happened. But then you're returning to

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Speaker 2: I love what I do. I'm not comparing myself to

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Certain people are called to do certain things.

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Speaker 2: Look at Martin Luther King. He got death threats, all

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Speaker 2: Now if he just would have just accepted that and

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Speaker 2: So I look at I look at people like him

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Speaker 2: I have a niche for this. I've been good at this.

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Speaker 2: I'm great at it. I'm great what I do. I impact

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Speaker 1: Then you would say, how has life changed after being

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Speaker 2: So life has changed for the better. I did go

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Speaker 1: You talk about rekindling relationships, what relationships did you have

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Speaker 2: Well, let me say just having bad. Me and my

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Speaker 1: Some years ago you did a song also called not

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts about that now?

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Speaker 2: After going through that, I I forgive. I forgive him.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any ill will towards him. I don't

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Speaker 2: I think he came to the hospital one or two times,

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, actually we might have had a conversation.

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Speaker 1: You also did a song called take It Up There.

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Speaker 1: Oh that has a gospel type of feel. Tell me

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Speaker 2: Take it Up There is just when you having stress, anxiety,

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Speaker 2: you're dealing with depression and addictions, take all your problems

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Speaker 2: to God. This song just it just came to me

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Speaker 1: So it feels like you've been really leaning heavy into

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Speaker 2: Couldn't really do nothing else, you know, I could try

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Speaker 2: What do you mean you had to Well, I had

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Speaker 1: So now do you feel like you've turned people's perceptions

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Speaker 2: Most definitely because I pushed nonviolence. Even after getting shot,

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Speaker 2: I give people chances and I try to help them.

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Speaker 1: What would you say to that eighteen year old.

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Speaker 2: Get your life to christ Man. That's what I would

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Speaker 2: say to him, And I'll tell them I forgive him.

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Speaker 2: Somebody had to come to terms with it. Took some

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Speaker 1: Can you when you think back to how this happened,

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Speaker 2: When I got shot? First, I was like, did I

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Speaker 2: I started having so many regrets and thinking about I

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Speaker 2: I'll start thinking of all the things that I didn't

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Speaker 2: And I was just praying, like I hope this is not.

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Speaker 3: It and those prayers worked.

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Speaker 2: Oh they pray and and of course my supporters. I

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Speaker 1: So how do you feel about the support that you

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Speaker 2: My brother took my phone, so I didn't really see

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Speaker 1: Clue, right because I'm just wondering if you could feel

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Speaker 3: No, I can't believe this happened, you know, is he

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that I felt the love. In other ways.

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Speaker 1: What has the recovery process been like for you? I know,

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Speaker 2: It's been a battle. I'm still recovering, but now I

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Speaker 2: It's been a lot of hard work, a lot of

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Speaker 3: But it's nice. It feels like you're getting it back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you feel like I'm getting it back.

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Speaker 1: But even mentally, I'm wondering because this has that's a

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Speaker 2: Oh. No, I didn't get any therapy. My therapy was God.

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Speaker 2: Just to be honest with you, I didn't get any

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Speaker 2: did a test. I test myself. I went out on

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Speaker 2: I just told her, like, I'm gonna be taking a

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Speaker 2: to kick in the door. You know, I'm gonna train

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Speaker 2: some people up. You keep the door, you know. So

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Speaker 2: it's more so just understanding I don't have nothing else

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Speaker 2: I can start training people up. I can still be there,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave him some peace. Now my mom, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't give her no piece. She don't care. She

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Speaker 2: She good? But they would all prefer me to do

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Speaker 2: So I've been home for the most part.

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Speaker 3: How do you deal with women?

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Speaker 1: Differently when you have to go in because I've seen

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Speaker 3: Some of those women can be a little feisty.

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Speaker 2: I'm sarcastic. I talked to him real low and they

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Speaker 2: I just let him go off.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever watched that show Sneaky Pete Na?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 3: It's a series.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if you watch it because I ended

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even though it's a series, what is that on?

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Speaker 3: You know what Sneaky Peter is on? It might be

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Speaker 1: because I caught it. It came out a while ago,

436
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Speaker 1: but I started watching it and I thought about you

437
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Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, you're the only.

438
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Speaker 3: Person in real life. I know it's on Prime. Okay,

439
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna check that out. Yeah, there you go, so

440
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Speaker 3: you can.

441
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Speaker 1: What are some other plans that you have, because, like

442
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: you said, some of the people close closest to you

443
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: are wanting you to get out of it. But I

444
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: know and like you said, you're training other people. You're

445
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: not in the field as much. Where do you see

446
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: yourself taking this.

447
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna continue. I'm never gonna get out the business.

448
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to expand my business. I'm taking this to

449
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: the Detroit metro area and take over there, and I'm

450
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Speaker 2: gonna just keep training people up. Like I said, I'm

451
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Speaker 2: gonna just take a step back more into a manager position,

452
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: and when I got a lace up, I will you

453
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. But just taking a step back,

454
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Speaker 2: I'm going to start transitioning, pivoting into some more public speaking,

455
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: just trying to help people through my testimony. Yeah, and

456
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Speaker 2: continue doing.

457
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Speaker 3: My music and your content. Yeah, because that hasn't stopped.

458
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, let's keep going.

459
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Speaker 1: How was it the first time? You were like, okay,

460
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: time to get back, you know, to it?

461
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: And it was weird. I was filled with anxiety, but

462
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: I was also filled with happiness just to be able

463
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: to throw it back on. So it was a ball

464
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Speaker 2: of emotion. I felled all emotions at one time. Yeah.

465
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Speaker 3: And so as far as the music, what's happening with.

466
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: That right now? I am working. Well, the album's done.

467
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Album drops April tenth. Okay, I have a new single

468
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: that's coming out on the twenty seven, which is this Friday,

469
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: called No Hook Park one. So the album is called

470
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: BARS and it stands for Blessings After Real Scars and

471
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: it's my testimony. It's a powerful album. If you're one

472
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: of those people that like albums to tell a story

473
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Speaker 2: and have some substance and meaning to it, this is

474
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: for you versus this. This is a track, This is tracking.

475
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: It does have a flow. This is more of a

476
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: complete story. Addictions I dealt with, trauma I've dealt with

477
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: is real. It's on Filter. It's a fantastic album and

478
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna be with a documentary as well.

479
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well I'm looking forward to seeing all of that,

480
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just happy that you're here, you know, with us,

481
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: and that you're still doing what it is that you love.

482
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Speaker 1: But we are going to continue to pray, you know.

483
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: I know you have one more surgery at the end

484
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: of the year, and then after that you feel like after.

485
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: That, God want it. I'm good. Yeah, I'm back to

486
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: the best normal mea can be.

487
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Speaker 1: Listen, I think that along with this documentary, you know,

488
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a bad idea to see what a

489
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Speaker 1: therapist has to say. I would be I would be

490
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Speaker 1: interested to see what a professional would have to say

491
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: and maybe some things you could learn about yourself. I'm

492
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 1: all for going to church and all of that, but

493
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Speaker 1: I just do think that there could be some things

494
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: you could unlock and document as well.

495
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Speaker 3: Just an idea.

496
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Speaker 2: We'll try it out. We'll try it. I do a

497
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: lot of soul surge and it might be.

498
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Speaker 1: Great not just for you, but also for your wife

499
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: or your mom, for your daughter, like as a family.

500
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Speaker 2: I try it out.

501
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: We'll see, you know, listen.

502
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: We only live once, right, and we got to make

503
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Speaker 1: the most out of it, and like you said, continue blessings.

504
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: But it affected everybody around you too, in ways that

505
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: maybe they don't even understand.

506
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent tro too. Yeah, you're right. We

507
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: do counseling, not per se a therapist, but we do

508
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: a lot of deep digging. We have family devotion time

509
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: where we talk about things is bothering us, so we

510
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: get to it, just in a different matter. You know,

511
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: if there's a need for some type of therapist, I don't.

512
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: There's nothing against it. You know, I've had therapy in

513
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: the past for other things. But as far as where

514
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm at right now, I'm good. I'm good mentally, you know,

515
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm good spiritually. Yeah, I feel good.

516
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: Because if it feels strange to be vulnerable in the

517
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: position that you're in, I would.

518
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Speaker 3: Think for me.

519
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm a very transparent person. I don't care. I'll

520
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: tell you what it is. If I'm feeling sad, I cried,

521
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me. So I've always been a very

522
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: unfiltered straight for a person in the first place, so

523
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: I don't have any problem unpacking.

524
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm packing that therapist word.

525
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Speaker 2: I love it.

526
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming through. Like I said,

527
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: it's good to see you. We're watching and keeping check

528
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: of everything you got going on.

529
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Oh yeah, if you in Cleveland,

530
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm having an album release party on April tenth. Get

531
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: your tickets is on event Bright. You will be the

532
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: first ones to see the documentary. They will go fast

533
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: or gravel.

534
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Speaker 3: All right, Thank you so much. April tenth,