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<v Speaker 1>be We're gonna go with who would you bet on

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<v Speaker 1>to make the playoffs? Dan, And we're gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>with two different poll questions. One's gonna be on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>one's gonna be on the website. Okay, okay. One on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter is who would you bet on to make the playoffs? Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks forty nine, Ers, Raiders, the one on the website,

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<v Speaker 1>Edds and the Browns. I would be curious if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just Green Bay and Tampa Bay, who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to make the playoffs? And maybe both do

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Right now, trying to figure this out. Short work week,

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<v Speaker 1>you got the Baltimore Ravens. I still feel like Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>is a Super Bowl contender. And I know, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>how many teams do you think are not that many?

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<v Speaker 1>Plus you're in the AFC, it's going to be even tougher.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I'm going kicking and screaming with Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>It just feels like they're a far better team than

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<v Speaker 1>they're showing, and they're great at blowing double digit leads

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half. But you got a quick turnaround

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night with the Ravens. Against the Buccaneers. I started

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<v Speaker 1>to look at some of the games for next week.

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<v Speaker 1>You got New England will be at the Jets. New

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<v Speaker 1>England historically has owned the Jet. Well, everybody's owned the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>New England is twelve and oh against the Jets since

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<v Speaker 1>opening day in twenty sixteen, and they won both games

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<v Speaker 1>last year by combine score seventy nine to nineteen. Things

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<v Speaker 1>have changed a little bit with these two teams. Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay will be at Buffalo. Did we find out the

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<v Speaker 1>last time Buffalo was or green Bay was this much

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<v Speaker 1>of an underdog? Checking my guy, it's a little early

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<v Speaker 1>for him, all right, green Bay at Buffalo right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo was a ten and a half point favorite. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Cincinnati at Cleveland. That'll be next Monday night, Halloween Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Erie and a whole lot of orange will be

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<v Speaker 1>on display with those two teams. All right. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to phone calls coming up, as we always do every Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>Best and Worst of the weekend. Operator Tyler is standing

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<v Speaker 1>by lebar Errington, the former NFL grade. He is part

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<v Speaker 1>of Fox Sports Radio's lineup. He'll join us coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We will check in with the Buccaneers. Rick Stroud covers

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<v Speaker 1>them on his way back from Carolina and get his

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on how bad it is. Right now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to put all of this on Tom Brady because

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<v Speaker 1>if Mike Evans catches that touchdown pass, maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little different now, as people have pointed out, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been twenty one to ten final instead of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one to three. Maybe, But Carolina has got a

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<v Speaker 1>fire sale going on, and I guess one of those

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<v Speaker 1>where you go, it's twenty one three. Oh, Tampa only

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty one on No, no, no, they got three.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can make excuses, you know for Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind Pittsburgh was without two of the best

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<v Speaker 1>defenders in football when they played the Buccaneers. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>running out of those excuses. Yes, Off the field, what

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's going through. You can see it in his

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<v Speaker 1>face when he gets there. Those press conferences, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are more than you know, just losses for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you've got to turn it around and real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand Green Bay. Davante Adams one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>But now what's the problem or what is the big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is the offense different this year than it was

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<v Speaker 1>last year. I know you got different receivers. You still

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<v Speaker 1>got Aaron Rodgers, still got a good offensive line, you

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<v Speaker 1>got running bags. You're you're working in these wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Defense is what I thought. I thought they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a running team and play good defense year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones their star running back for the Packers. He

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<v Speaker 1>carries the ball ten times a game. He's averaging five

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<v Speaker 1>point five gyuards of carry. I know it's tough against Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>They got good defensive line and they got a J. Dillonde.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not use those guys enough. That's why I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you could make them more of a run first, but

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<v Speaker 1>you do have Aaron Rodgers. It just feels like Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>would be even greater and take more pressure off these

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<v Speaker 1>receivers if you did have that run first mentality. But

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<v Speaker 1>feels like trying to get them on the same page.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Aaron Rodgers at one point you could see

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<v Speaker 1>him mouthing like, what the bleep is going on? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have the point spread for the Packers? Last time

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<v Speaker 1>they were this big of an underdoing well. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a tough one because Aaron Rodgers wasn't playing. Rodgers has

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<v Speaker 1>been out with a month for the injury. This is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen, so it kind of doesn't count. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>need with Aaron Rodgers playing, Yeah, we're working on the

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<v Speaker 1>last time the Packers were a double digit dog, double

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<v Speaker 1>digit dog, they were getting fourteen and the triple digit

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<v Speaker 1>dog you blick. Pittsburgh was given the Packers fourteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and Brett Hunley covered thirty one twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers. We're checking on the with Aaron Rodgers. Okay. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>College football, um, good week for Brian Kelly felt like

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<v Speaker 1>September not good. It almost felt like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if this is a fair parallel analogy comparison. Brian Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>and Russell Wilson felt like it was open season on

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<v Speaker 1>both of these guys. You know, you had social media things.

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<v Speaker 1>With Russ he just got a sandwich taken off the

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<v Speaker 1>board at subway. It's hard to do it, is that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said all of us a limited time, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and until he had his first loss of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, but uh uh, you know LSU losing

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<v Speaker 1>the opener and then all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly, off season is Southern acts sound, I'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say I'll say it, and uh, game is four quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back. But he needed he needed one of those weekends.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Russ didn't play that he's got a partially

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<v Speaker 1>torn hamstring. Oregon. Now, if you're a Pack twelve fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably wanted UCLA to continue to win, therefore that

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<v Speaker 1>they might be the representative and get into the Final four.

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<v Speaker 1>But Oregon picked up the win. Clemson somehow gets by Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 1>TCU is a sneaky seven and zero, and you got

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<v Speaker 1>Bears in the Patriots coming up tonight. Hi, some phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls here coming up. Also, we said goodbye to Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Judge after a magical regular season, and he was asked

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<v Speaker 1>after the loss, after being swept by the Astros about

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<v Speaker 1>his future in New York. Have you thought at all

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<v Speaker 1>about what comes next for you? Not? Not at all,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet. Not yet. We got h I got plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of time to figure that out. Did you spend any

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<v Speaker 1>time today thinking about how this could be the last

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<v Speaker 1>game home game through here? Take anything in? Not at all,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. I totally go out there and do

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<v Speaker 1>my job and and I help this team win. And

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't. I really didn't think it would it

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<v Speaker 1>happened so quick, you don't really have time to so

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<v Speaker 1>much anymore. Yeah, do I believe he's thought about this? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess if I've thought about it, he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>thought about it. And I'm not getting four hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars from the Giants or the Yankees. Yeah, Seaton, I've

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<v Speaker 1>already thought of about forty five hundred places I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to live if I ever win the lottery, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just just waiting to cash his lottery tickets are already

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<v Speaker 1>got it, but I hadn't really thought about where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. Yeah. Yes, Now, Judge was patient and

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<v Speaker 1>classic was that third question a little too much? Will

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy the line? You can think about it tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>What about next week? You've gotta be thinking about it

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<v Speaker 1>by next month, they're not going to be They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna they're not gonna be talking to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to clarify, Yeah, they're not gonna three quick questions. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, not now, but maybe like an hour a

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<v Speaker 1>week or ten days, certainly by the holidays. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess Aaron Judges thought quite a bit about this,

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<v Speaker 1>probably during a game where he's you know, baseball takes

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<v Speaker 1>a couple hours, you know, and you got a little

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<v Speaker 1>downtime in the outfield going what about Friday when one

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<v Speaker 1>of the World Series starts and you're not playing astro? Yes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think for for Aaron Judge, will it be

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<v Speaker 1>like the money or will it be the years? As

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<v Speaker 1>far as like a contract, Well, you think somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>off from ten and the Yankees are like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep yet. Well, I think the later years, the added years,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be the key. It feels like he'll get at

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<v Speaker 1>least forty million dollars a year. And is it going

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<v Speaker 1>to be for ten years? I would be careful if

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<v Speaker 1>if if I was a GM and you said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want Aaron Judge, but you got to have

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<v Speaker 1>him for ten years, I would think of Albert Pooholes

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<v Speaker 1>and I would go similar age and there might be

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<v Speaker 1>a desperate team. The Angels were trying to have some relevance,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they went all in on him and

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<v Speaker 1>he was sort of pedestrian for the most part of

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<v Speaker 1>his career. Yes, I know people think of the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where he's from. The San Francisco Giants, Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>Giants made the playoffs last year and they were eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one and eighty one the San Francisco Giants this year,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good enough for thirty games out of first place.

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<v Speaker 1>They were thirty games behind the Dodgers at eighty one

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one. The Yankees are the first team in baseball

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<v Speaker 1>history to strike out at least fifty times and get

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<v Speaker 1>swept in a playoffs series. I mean, oh the days.

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<v Speaker 1>Here comes that? What stat of the day? Barry in

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Fe joins us Best and Worst of the weekend, Barry,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back, Good morning fellas, Good morning chat Row. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe it? Four weeks in a row, jay E

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<v Speaker 1>t s Jets, Jets, Jets, and I caught your snide

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<v Speaker 1>little uh remark there about everybody heating up on the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets there. I heard that, Oh, I know, are you

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<v Speaker 1>taking receipts to Barry? I am taking and I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>patting in, baby, I'm catting in. Yeah, I was, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have a good feeling about this game,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the kind of game where they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>would usually lose, but maybe something difference going on. Worse

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<v Speaker 1>to the weekend, looks like our stud running back Greece

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<v Speaker 1>Hall has a long long um touchdown runs two weekends

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<v Speaker 1>in a row. That would be a bummer. And as

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<v Speaker 1>an added boonist, the Yankees lose. Thank you, Barry. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Barry in Santa Fe. Morgan in Maryland, Hi Morgan, welcome back. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Dan, good morning, good morning. So best best and

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<v Speaker 1>worse for the weekend. Worse for the weekend. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>say Kenny Pickett, so in the interception late in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it looked like he had, you know, space

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<v Speaker 1>and time to run, get the first down and get

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds. Give them more of a chance. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know it happens. Best of the weekend. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>and I have an annual pumping carbon contest and I

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<v Speaker 1>am victorious once again. Six and oh he is not

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<v Speaker 1>happy and I love Thank you congratulations Morgan Dominance. I

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<v Speaker 1>think her husband's tanking smart move man. How it's judged?

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<v Speaker 1>H Maybe somebody in the neighborhood independent. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of them are like no, mind's better, room minds better. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry in Rochester, Hi Harry, Hi Dad. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>questions for Todd. Todd, why do you like all your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite sports teams. They were orange. That's a very good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of rooting for Denver and seventy seven and

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<v Speaker 1>the Astros in eighty and I did get caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in the orange and the bright colors, the orange and blue.

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<v Speaker 1>And then your son goes to Syracuse. Yeah that's a coitsens,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of weird as well. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I like the logos, and I like the rainbow

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<v Speaker 1>colors of the Astros and the d with the horse

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole orange crush thing. That was definitely part

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<v Speaker 1>of why I fell in love with those teams. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina, Hey, Tom, Good morning, Dan, good Morningtime,

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<v Speaker 1>best and worst. Worst of the weekend, doing some remodeling

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<v Speaker 1>in the house, but I didn't get to watch as

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<v Speaker 1>much sports as i'd like. Best of the weekend. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering at what point during the Syracuse Clemson game did

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<v Speaker 1>Todd realize he was going to get too Was it

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<v Speaker 1>the interception or was when wait, so you get you

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<v Speaker 1>get two pies? Right? Yeah? We did like a double

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<v Speaker 1>a nothing and watched him go from twenty one seven

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<v Speaker 1>up to twenty seven twenty one down, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely thinking about the pies throughout that second half of

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, thank you Tom for calling in, because

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<v Speaker 1>if Tom didn't bring it up, you wouldn't have brought

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Two pots. Oh that's right, two pies corp. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got some good fun social media. They liked your

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<v Speaker 1>two piere quick. You know what, if you would have

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<v Speaker 1>brought it up, I would have taken away one. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have I would have will never know, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>you need to trust me, and I would have taken

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<v Speaker 1>away one of the pond dubious. Would you say, smoking

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<v Speaker 1>a dubious dubious that you would take one piecause I

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<v Speaker 1>reminded everyone that I get two pies for Syracuse with

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<v Speaker 1>it all right? Okay, let me take a break. LeVar Arrington,

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<v Speaker 1>former NFL player and radio host with Fox Sports. He

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<v Speaker 1>will join us coming up, and we'll check in with

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<v Speaker 1>the tamp Bay Buccaneers coming up a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 1>just sent me a stat had to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>Buccaneers two years ago. Week nine, they were blown out

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<v Speaker 1>by the Saints thirty eight three. Brady had three interceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>They lost two of their next three, had a bye week.

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<v Speaker 1>They were in second place in the NFC South to

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints. They won their next eight, including the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl Super Bowl, blowing out the Chiefs. They just don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel as threatening as they did back then. This is

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<v Speaker 1>still supposed to be a really good defense. They had

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<v Speaker 1>some injuries in the secondary, but you go back, what

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<v Speaker 1>were they six and two before? They were blown out

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<v Speaker 1>by the same so they at least got on a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a role. They were just blown out

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<v Speaker 1>by Drew Brees and the Saints week nine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I and then everybody goes, oh, get Gronk back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're Gronk, would you want to come back to this?

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be like, Nah, I'm good making these cheesy commercials.

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<v Speaker 1>LeVar Arrington, former NFL Penn State linebacker. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast up on Game College Football Hall of Famer and

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<v Speaker 1>good to have him back. On the program, Levart, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a while. How are you very well, sir? How

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<v Speaker 1>are you being I'm doing okay. If I said you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pick which team goes further Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'd have to go with any team in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC, right. I mean, if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that Green Bay have are very different than

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that Tampa Bay has. I'm not certain that

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay's problems aren't fixable, whereas you know with Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it just looks like the cupboard went from

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<v Speaker 1>being full or have full to to not being um

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<v Speaker 1>properly stocked. Dan So I would most likely say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC East, or excuse me, the NFC as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole is wide open. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they have a really really strong defense in Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>They have great weapons on the offensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>They just got to put it together. As you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay and the Commanders, you played for Washington. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you root for Washington? Yes, I do. I do root

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<v Speaker 1>for the team. Um, I root for the fan base.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the city, I love the fans, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the team. I just don't like the owner, as I've

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<v Speaker 1>made that's that's been clear for for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you go back into the Animals DP,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably the first one that was out there talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how crazy the dude is and how he handles

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<v Speaker 1>things with his business affairs. But that was during a

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<v Speaker 1>time where it wasn't very very pronounced, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of flack and a lot of blowback on

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<v Speaker 1>it as if I didn't like the fans or like

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<v Speaker 1>the city. But it was really the owner that I

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<v Speaker 1>disliked and still dislike, by the way, is there one

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<v Speaker 1>moment that stands out? Oh, there's a few. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few moments. I mean they tried to paint

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<v Speaker 1>a picture like I couldn't learn defenses. They had Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbs on board with it, they had Greg Williams on

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<v Speaker 1>board with it, and you know, there was there was

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt, an assassination attempt on my character during the

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<v Speaker 1>time that there was, you know, a contract issue, which

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I would I did just to help

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<v Speaker 1>the team, you know, if people remember what took place,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean probably the contract situation going the

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<v Speaker 1>way that it did is the most memorable because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have anything to do with it, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just they asked me, did I want to redo my

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<v Speaker 1>contract to help the team? I said I would, I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. There was a discrepancy in the contract, and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest kind of went from there. Yeah. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised the other owners don't say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you're this guy's bad for business, and but maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>worried that, you know, it's gonna be returned fire and

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<v Speaker 1>going to oh, you're gonna talk about what I'm doing, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I'm going to tell people some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things and there's some powerful people that he probably

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<v Speaker 1>has dirt on. I mean, you'd have to assume. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was released, right. I don't know how true the

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<v Speaker 1>statement was, but I mean the sources that release those

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<v Speaker 1>reports that that those were the things that were coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Dan Snyder's camp, that you know, he's taking the

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<v Speaker 1>whole ship down if they kick him off of it, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to assume that there's some truth and validity

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<v Speaker 1>to the things that were being reported. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where where that all stands, but I mean, good

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<v Speaker 1>for business is having an owner of a franchise that

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<v Speaker 1>understands how how the community works and how how sports work.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what at the at the Bear's minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>how how to talk and treat you know, treat the

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<v Speaker 1>people that work for you well. Also the product you

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<v Speaker 1>put on the field at you know, you traded for

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<v Speaker 1>wins and I didn't know. I didn't think there was

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<v Speaker 1>a market for him, LeVar. It felt like if they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get him, he was going to be a backup

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback somewhere. I'm you know, Taylor Heineke is fine until

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<v Speaker 1>you find a franchise quarterback if you do, but the

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<v Speaker 1>product on the field has been subpar. We're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>LaVar Arrington and uh you can hear up on Game

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<v Speaker 1>the iHeart podcast, Plexico Burres, uh T, j houshman Zada

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<v Speaker 1>also Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, the show

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<v Speaker 1>that Precedes Hours. I listened to it every morning coming

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<v Speaker 1>in Fox Sports Radio with Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox

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<v Speaker 1>on that program. Um, do you guys give Brady Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>gree I mean he's almost too good looking, like because

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<v Speaker 1>they're he's perfect looking man. Yeah, you know, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a great voice. He's like a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>young Dan Patrick, like, you probably got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>grief when you were younger. Yeah, you know, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>still get grief now. You know. It's just those strikingly

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<v Speaker 1>good looks and the fine voice that you guys. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give you guys a hard time. I mean, somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>got to do it, you know, and they hired me

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of doing though. But you hate quarterbacks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Quarterbacks always are the good guys. They get them. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate them, um, but I certainly never really liked them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just don't hate them. But in terms of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the cheerleader department, I had game DP, so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to work about the good looks. My

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<v Speaker 1>game was good. You know. Were you one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first guys to wear didn't you wear eleven? I did

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<v Speaker 1>I create? That's me? Eleven is me I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>am mister sticks the original. But did were there any

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<v Speaker 1>you look faster when you wear a number like that?

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't know given the position that you played. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, usually you're wearing a number in the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>bigger number like fifty or forty or you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Brooks wore number ten, So I ended up getting

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<v Speaker 1>number eleven because I wanted to be Derek Brooks. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted number ten when I went to college, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was taken and I was kind of like a little

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<v Speaker 1>but heard about it. But they were like, why not

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<v Speaker 1>be the first you instead of the next Derek Brooks?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, that that makes sense. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about a number that a linebacker had never

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<v Speaker 1>worn and made famous, and I came up with eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pro Football Hall of Fame. Do you make a

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<v Speaker 1>case if people say, should you be in the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame? Do you nah? I don't. Do you fight

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<v Speaker 1>for it? Nah? I don't. I had a good career.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know when I went to when I

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<v Speaker 1>went to New York, if I would have been there,

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>my contract was for seven years. Had I been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of those two super bowls, you can't put Eli

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<v Speaker 1>Manning in the Hall of Fame if LaVar Arrington doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go into the Hall of Fame. I would have made

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<v Speaker 1>a case if I'd have got to two super Bowls,

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<v Speaker 1>But three Pro Bowls, isn't I don't. I don't. That's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not enough. And then college football, I'm the best,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a goat, I'm not even like I stacked my career.

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<v Speaker 1>I stacked my highlights. Lights as as a defender, I

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<v Speaker 1>stack them up. The only person that I'll say better

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<v Speaker 1>than me in the annals is probably Charles Woodson. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably like the best college football player that nobody really

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<v Speaker 1>talks about. And I sound self absorbed, DP, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, this is the final frontier for me. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be the last time that football is something where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a destination for me, which is going into the

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<v Speaker 1>College Hall of Fame in December. So I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of living in that right now. Okay, so the best

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<v Speaker 1>you're not talking about the best defensive player in college football.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the defense. Now, I'm sad defense. So

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Woodson is the best defensive player. I think Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Woodson is the best player all time period. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at everything he's done at every level,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're saying the best football player. If I take

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<v Speaker 1>in college and I take in the pros, well with

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Woodson. With me, I just say college defense, defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball. For me, I don't think I'll

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 1>take my you know, I'll take my chances in a debate.

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>So Charles Woodson the greatest football player. I think Charles

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Woodson is the greatest football player from top to bottom,

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>from inception of playing till the time you retire. I

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.479
<v Speaker 1>think he's the greatest football player ever. Let's look at

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the AFC right now, it feels like it's just Buffalo

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.400
<v Speaker 1>in Kansas City, and then you will be correct. Okay,

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna make you a defensive player facing You

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>can face Mahomes or uh or Allen in the playoffs.

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>If I had to choose, I'd rather play against Alan

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:17.199
<v Speaker 1>because he's a more physical grinder in a game, like

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>he'll bring the game to you and and so that

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>would give me some type of hope that we could

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>actually turn it into a game with my Homes. It's

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>it's he delivers the ball from so many different angles

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and and the route progressions that that they draw up,

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 1>the schemes that they draw up with coach Reid is

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it's just it's it's it's been unsolvable.

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>He's he's in his zone and no one has caught

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>up to him yet. Yeah, I guess it's a defender.

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>You want the guy who's he's gonna be right there

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in front of you. John Allen is gonna be right

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.919
<v Speaker 1>there in front of you, right there in front of you. Absolutely,

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>he's a big guy. I think I think people don't

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>realize how big quarterbacks are because we see what you

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>guys do to them. But you know, being around Matt

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Ryan's a legitimate six five maybe six six. Roethlisberger was

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a big guy. I mean, there's a lot of a

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of those guys, which makes you wonder why the

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>referees treat them like big old babies. Right, Okay, solved

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>for me then, I mean it's contact football, it's contact sports.

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>I say there's two ways of approaching this. Either allow

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>them to be a part of the game or don't

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't let like once you once you once

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you get to a certain perimeter. You know, all this

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>technology create an invisible uh you know, parameter like like

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>a a dog like you know, yeah, sure, like what

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they do with with diamonds and stuff like that. You know,

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you got the you know, you got to see security.

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, the little red lines around and put the

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>red lines around and make that the sack so you

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have to touch them. I don't know how you

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons yesterday and you're gonna wait, he got called

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>for roughing. Somebody got called for roughing. They pulled somebody

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>down by one finger. I'm just it's already a touch.

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 1>It's tough, and you touch them it is if you

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>touch the quarterback anymore. I mean, the one with Chris

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Jones was crazy, Like that's crazy, Like you you you

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>got to him, you're getting the ball, You're going down.

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>You're both going down. You're trying to secure the ball.

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>The ball is still kind of in the balance. You're

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to secure the ball. You land on him, and

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>they said you put too much forced like too much

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:50.959
<v Speaker 1>of a percentage of force on his body when you landed.

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Like wait, what do you mean too much of a

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>percentage of force on his body? I don't get that.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>But there's all kinds of different rules that are are

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>governing and acting quarterbacks. I get it. They sell tickets,

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're the pretty guys as you mentioned,

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, they do great interviews. Uh, they get the cheerleader.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, there are other guys out there

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>that that make the game go as well, that that

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>would like to have a little bit of time to

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>enjoy with those quarterbacks on Sundays. What do you think

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to be that mark of if you get

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>above this number with sacks, that that's gonna open the

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>door for being a Hall of Famer? Is it? It's

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>one hundred sacks? The number? I mean, if you get

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to a hundred sack club, you are you you have

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>done something amazing. Does that get you into the Hall?

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't I don't know, but that

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is a tremendous That is a tremendous accomplishment to get

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to a hundred sack club. Aaron Donald just got over

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a hundred. Yeah tackle, Yeah, you know, he's from where

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm from, Mere Pittsburgh, guys, He's he's from Penn Hills.

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm from North Hills, but our families are are from

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the same area. I'm super proud that he's from where

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>we're from. I think he's one of he's he's certainly

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the greatest defensive line UH defender. Um. I haven't seen

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy as dominant as Aaron Donald, um since Reggie

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Reggie White. Like I'm a big fan of J. J. Watt,

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of Warren sap Um in the

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>way that they played the game. There's a few more

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>out there that that I really like their games as

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman defenders, but Aaron Donald is something of another

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and I enjoy watching them play. I you know, he's undersized,

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>but he is a brick s house and he understands

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>how to contort his body and how to manipulate the

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>hands and the shoulders and and leverage points of of

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>offensive blockers. I just I just of his game. I

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>love his motor, love his game. Who's the greatest? So

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you think Reggie White greatest defensive player NFL history, greatest

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>defensive player in NFL history, which is now being being

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>challenged by Aaron Donald defensive player ever, I would say

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Taylor. I'd say Lawrence Taylor still is the most

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>dominant defensive player we've we've ever seen. But when you're

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about the versatility being able to do the things

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Donald has done from the different positions that

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he's done it for the amount of time that he's

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>done it for, it's it's up for a question. But

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, Lawrence Taylor did get MVP of the league,

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and I believe he's the only defender to ever get

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that accomplishment. When you get that good anybody gets that

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>MVP of the League award DP, then now you can

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>start to have a conversation of they maybe better or

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>greater UM than LT. But until then, that man still

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>stands on a mountain alone. Good to talk to you. Congratulations,

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>College Football Hall of Fame. The that's uh LeVar Arrington

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>joining us the up on Game iHeart podcast with t J. Hushman,

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Zada and Plexico Burris. Also two pros and a cup

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of Joe Alan Page I think was MVP of the league.

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for the Vikings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul I got

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the list of the all time sack leaders. I could

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>save it. But there's a bunch of guys with over

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten sacks that don't feel like they're

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>going to the Hall of Famer. They don't have to

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>wait a bit like like, um, Jared Allen, Jared Allen. Um,

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>when I when you when I say Jared Allen, do

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I think do you think Hall of Fame? Yes, he's

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>a five four time All Pro. He's twelfth all time

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in NFL history of sacks at one thirty six. Yeah,

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of sacks. There's Guys like Terrell Suggs

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.719
<v Speaker 1>will probably go he thirty nine, he's a Hall of Famer. Um,

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Jason Taylor got in for one hundred and thirty nine sacks.

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>But there's guys like Lessie O'Neill, Simeon Rice, Robert Mathis. Yep,

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that those are the white Freeny. Those are all over

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty sacks in their career. It feels

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>like Mathis and Freeney cancel each other out because they

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>played on the same team. Lesie O'Neill played for the Chargers,

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>which no offense. I think it really hurts people on

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast sometimes. Yes, some of those players feel

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like they're like, oh yeah, that guy, remember him? Kind

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>of players, you know, like Jared Allen is he You're like, oh, yeah,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>he was awesome, but he but you can kind of

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>forget about his place in history in a way. You

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>get those moments and is that Hall of Famer If

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, yeah, may he was awesome? Yeah, Well,

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>once again, not everybody goes to the penthouse of the

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame, And I think that's what happens. Sometimes

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you go, well, is he as good as Reggie White? Well, no,

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>he's not Is he as good as and then you

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>start throwing out these other names. So yes, I move

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you down. So there's the penthouse and then third floor

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>or second floor, first floor, and then the basement. You

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>got into the Hall of Fame, and he's one of

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>those guys that would probably be on the first floor

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>going there. He is not going to be upstairs, but

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>he's in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I'm looking at

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>the numbers. It appears that you have to have a

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of those monster seasons where you have seventeen eighteen

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>sacks and your first team All Pro because JJ Watt

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>has one hundred and five sacks, Cameron Jordan has one

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eleven of the Saints. I don't think Cameron

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Jordan is looking at the Hall of Fame. He's very

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>media friendly. Well here's the tricky part now, because there's

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>so many pounds attempts, there's more chances for you to

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>get sacks. Go back, these guys who played in the

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 1>sixties and the seventies, how many times were you throwing

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the ball, you know, eighteen twenty twenty two times. Imagine

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Taylor now, given all the opportunities that he would

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>have with more pounce attempts. Imagine Deacon Jones if he

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>played now. I mean you can run down the list

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>of great defensive players, but how many you had to

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>be able to play the run as well as you

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>know the past. Yeah, I wonder though, and not really

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>playing Devil's advocate, but just wondering out loud, if Lawrence

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Taylor would have gotten the opportunity to be as good

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>as he was considering how much harder the game is

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>for defense just based on the calls and how fast

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks get rid of the ball. I mean, the game

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>has changed, you know, in in both ways. Yeah, he

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>might have an impact in a different way, but but

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>he was given free reign. When when you think about

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>now you can line up somebody and just say Junior

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Sao or Troy Palomalo. You'd be like, line up wherever

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to. Yeah, I just remember the defense didn't

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>know where to prepare for Lawrence Taylor. Um, you know

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he changed a game plan for the

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>for the best team in football Washington, where Joe Gibbs said,

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have a tight end stay in and

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>help Joe Jacobe. I'm gonna have my all pro tackle.

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Get help because we're facing Lawrence Taylor and seeing that

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>up close, that was real. Who I just couldn't imagine

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>being a quarterback and not thinking about I'd go to

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage and hopefully my teeth wouldn't be chattering,

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'd go to the line of scrimmage. Ago, where

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>is us over the death step? Blue Blue? I'm blue, Holy,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>get me out of here. I'm in trouble. But he

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>was so fast off the edge like crazy. Yeah. If

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you think they think the Blue eighteen, let me take

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>your break. More phone calls coming up right after this.

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.920
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0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.560
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0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.640
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<v Speaker 1>Buccaneers coming up next hour. Packers are currently ten and

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a half point underdogs at Buffalo this weekend. Aaron Rodgers

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>has never been a double digit dog in his career. Well,

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a first for everything here. By the way, I

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>was watching the Giants and they're not very exciting, but

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to acknowledge what is what's happening there? And

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you have a coach who knows what he's doing, and

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>they play hard for him, and they just seem to

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>hang around every game. Se Quon has played well. Daniel

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Jones rushes for over one hundred yards. This is what

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know when I watch him. I go, I

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>know he's got talent, but they don't feature him like

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>he has talent, if that makes sense. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>first Giants quarterback to rush for over one hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>in a game. Since nineteen thirty four out, not that

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<v Speaker 1>you've had that many quarterbacks play for the Giants. Where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, man, that guy, if he gets out on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge, he can take it. But whenever you bring

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<v Speaker 1>up something has to do with Daniel Jones running, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>says the same thing. Oh, is that the guy who tripped?

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<v Speaker 1>He was all alone. He's going to run an eighty

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<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown. He tripped yesterday as well. Yeah, Paul, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious about the Giants. Oh, the situation they have coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say they finish the season, what will be like

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say ten, six, eleven and six and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>first round play off exit. Daniel Jones keeps playing well,

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<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley plays well, you can only franchise Tag one

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<v Speaker 1>of those two. I think they're one of those two

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<v Speaker 1>has to be let go, and Squans is the star

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<v Speaker 1>of the team, but not necessarily Daniel Jones. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>middle ground on contracts anymore. That's the problem. So you'd

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<v Speaker 1>franchise Tag Daniel Jones and see if he's still good

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<v Speaker 1>next year, and then you signed sae Quon Barkley, though,

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<v Speaker 1>what four years, forty million? If you're lucky, you could

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<v Speaker 1>get him for forty million. I don't know. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be four years for sixty million, but man, that's Stacey.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Let's go around the room. Best and

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<v Speaker 1>worst of the weekend, Toddler, I'll start with you. Best

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<v Speaker 1>of the weekend Oregon qb BO Nicks leading the Ducks

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<v Speaker 1>past UCLA. Nothing against Ucla, but give us the bruth

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<v Speaker 1>their first loss of the season. Twenty two of twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and three yards, five tds. Worst of the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>As you may have guessed we talked about earlier. Previously

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<v Speaker 1>undefeated Syracuse nearly shot Clemson in death Valley, squandering at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one seven league, giving up the last twenty points

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, and you get two pies and I

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<v Speaker 1>get two pies because they could not hold on against

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<v Speaker 1>its double or nothing U Seaton O'Connor. I'm actually saving

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<v Speaker 1>my best and worst of the weekend for looking Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how about that? Okay, how about that? If you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>Best of the Weekend. Kenneth's Walker the Third Junior j

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<v Speaker 1>thir twenty three kerries huny sixty eight yards, two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>came out of nowhere. Good for him, Seahawks another wind,

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<v Speaker 1>Papa Gino. Let's go worst of the weekend Jared Groff

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<v Speaker 1>four interceptions, two interceptions, Um, you know? Two four? Two

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<v Speaker 1>lost turnovers, two lost fumbles. Excuse me totally. If I

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<v Speaker 1>told that out to get nine? How many? How many

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers did he have? Marv? You got him with eight? Nine? No?

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<v Speaker 1>What I said? Four? I said four turnovers? You said

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<v Speaker 1>you lost pass you lost children? How many turnovers to

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<v Speaker 1>Jared golf Four? Okay that included the fumbles. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a little confused. Are you pounding now? Britzie time.

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<v Speaker 1>He was breaking down the four turnovers as to what

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<v Speaker 1>they were, and then you headed them up. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>just had another one, Jared Golfing another turnover. Well, my

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island rams dan or the Monmouth Hawks forty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>forty six and seven overtimes. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>count stats, but they do they do, I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think they should check it out. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Rhode Island rams one. Then here's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Thomas of Minnesota they're big time now they're six

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<v Speaker 1>and one. They're good squad. They took it to the

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<v Speaker 1>Presbyterian Blue Hose. But the reason I'm giving this credit

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback for Saint Thomas great name Cade Sex Hour eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Sex Hour was fourteen for nineteen with a touchdown Cade

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<v Speaker 1>sex Hour, Yes time. And you know what they say,

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<v Speaker 1>every hour is sex out. That's what they say in

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Thomas these days. I don't I don't think on

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<v Speaker 1>campus they say that for sex hour you go, yes, Eden.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this where we're supposed to be ripping Paul for

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<v Speaker 1>doing like the self serving Rhode Island game. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>Todd had done Syracuse, he'd be like, oh, what nobody

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<v Speaker 1>cares about that? Well, Paul just lives up visits Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean he's not mentioning Sacred Heart University.

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<v Speaker 1>They they took the el this weekend, not this time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably right. I would have ripped Fritzie on Syracuse,

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<v Speaker 1>ripped Todd's back, ye, Devil's advocate one more right, and

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