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Speaker 1: be We're gonna go with who would you bet on
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs? Dan, And we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: with two different poll questions. One's gonna be on Twitter,
Speaker 1: one's gonna be on the website. Okay, okay. One on
Speaker 1: Twitter is who would you bet on to make the playoffs? Packers,
Speaker 1: Bucks forty nine, Ers, Raiders, the one on the website,
Speaker 1: Edds and the Browns. I would be curious if it's
Speaker 1: just Green Bay and Tampa Bay, who do you think
Speaker 1: it's going to make the playoffs? And maybe both do
Speaker 1: Tampa Right now, trying to figure this out. Short work week,
Speaker 1: you got the Baltimore Ravens. I still feel like Baltimore
Speaker 1: is a Super Bowl contender. And I know, all right,
Speaker 1: how many teams do you think are not that many?
Speaker 1: Plus you're in the AFC, it's going to be even tougher.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I'm going kicking and screaming with Buffalo.
Speaker 1: It just feels like they're a far better team than
Speaker 1: they're showing, and they're great at blowing double digit leads
Speaker 1: in the second half. But you got a quick turnaround
Speaker 1: Thursday night with the Ravens. Against the Buccaneers. I started
Speaker 1: to look at some of the games for next week.
Speaker 1: You got New England will be at the Jets. New
Speaker 1: England historically has owned the Jet. Well, everybody's owned the Jets.
Speaker 1: New England is twelve and oh against the Jets since
Speaker 1: opening day in twenty sixteen, and they won both games
Speaker 1: last year by combine score seventy nine to nineteen. Things
Speaker 1: have changed a little bit with these two teams. Green
Speaker 1: Bay will be at Buffalo. Did we find out the
Speaker 1: last time Buffalo was or green Bay was this much
Speaker 1: of an underdog? Checking my guy, it's a little early
Speaker 1: for him, all right, green Bay at Buffalo right now?
Speaker 1: Buffalo was a ten and a half point favorite. And
Speaker 1: then Cincinnati at Cleveland. That'll be next Monday night, Halloween Night.
Speaker 1: Lake Erie and a whole lot of orange will be
Speaker 1: on display with those two teams. All right. We'll get
Speaker 1: to phone calls coming up, as we always do every Monday,
Speaker 1: Best and Worst of the weekend. Operator Tyler is standing
Speaker 1: by lebar Errington, the former NFL grade. He is part
Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Radio's lineup. He'll join us coming up.
Speaker 1: We will check in with the Buccaneers. Rick Stroud covers
Speaker 1: them on his way back from Carolina and get his
Speaker 1: thoughts on how bad it is. Right now, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to put all of this on Tom Brady because
Speaker 1: if Mike Evans catches that touchdown pass, maybe it's a
Speaker 1: little different now, as people have pointed out, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would have been twenty one to ten final instead of
Speaker 1: twenty one to three. Maybe, But Carolina has got a
Speaker 1: fire sale going on, and I guess one of those
Speaker 1: where you go, it's twenty one three. Oh, Tampa only
Speaker 1: got twenty one on No, no, no, they got three.
Speaker 1: And you can make excuses, you know for Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind Pittsburgh was without two of the best
Speaker 1: defenders in football when they played the Buccaneers. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: running out of those excuses. Yes, Off the field, what
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's going through. You can see it in his
Speaker 1: face when he gets there. Those press conferences, you know,
Speaker 1: these are more than you know, just losses for him.
Speaker 1: And now you've got to turn it around and real quick.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand Green Bay. Davante Adams one thing,
Speaker 1: But now what's the problem or what is the big issue.
Speaker 1: Why is the offense different this year than it was
Speaker 1: last year. I know you got different receivers. You still
Speaker 1: got Aaron Rodgers, still got a good offensive line, you
Speaker 1: got running bags. You're you're working in these wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Defense is what I thought. I thought they were going
Speaker 1: to be a running team and play good defense year. Yes,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones their star running back for the Packers. He
Speaker 1: carries the ball ten times a game. He's averaging five
Speaker 1: point five gyuards of carry. I know it's tough against Washington.
Speaker 1: They got good defensive line and they got a J. Dillonde.
Speaker 1: Do not use those guys enough. That's why I thought
Speaker 1: you could make them more of a run first, but
Speaker 1: you do have Aaron Rodgers. It just feels like Rogers
Speaker 1: would be even greater and take more pressure off these
Speaker 1: receivers if you did have that run first mentality. But
Speaker 1: feels like trying to get them on the same page.
Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Rodgers at one point you could see
Speaker 1: him mouthing like, what the bleep is going on? Do
Speaker 1: you have the point spread for the Packers? Last time
Speaker 1: they were this big of an underdoing well. This is
Speaker 1: a tough one because Aaron Rodgers wasn't playing. Rodgers has
Speaker 1: been out with a month for the injury. This is
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, so it kind of doesn't count. Okay, I
Speaker 1: need with Aaron Rodgers playing, Yeah, we're working on the
Speaker 1: last time the Packers were a double digit dog, double
Speaker 1: digit dog, they were getting fourteen and the triple digit
Speaker 1: dog you blick. Pittsburgh was given the Packers fourteen and
Speaker 1: a half and Brett Hunley covered thirty one twenty eight
Speaker 1: the Packers. We're checking on the with Aaron Rodgers. Okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: College football, um, good week for Brian Kelly felt like
Speaker 1: September not good. It almost felt like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is a fair parallel analogy comparison. Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson felt like it was open season on
Speaker 1: both of these guys. You know, you had social media things.
Speaker 1: With Russ he just got a sandwich taken off the
Speaker 1: board at subway. It's hard to do it, is that.
Speaker 1: And they said all of us a limited time, okay,
Speaker 1: and until he had his first loss of the season,
Speaker 1: like you know, but uh uh, you know LSU losing
Speaker 1: the opener and then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, off season is Southern acts sound, I'll say,
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll say it, and uh, game is four quarters.
Speaker 1: We're back. But he needed he needed one of those weekends.
Speaker 1: And then Russ didn't play that he's got a partially
Speaker 1: torn hamstring. Oregon. Now, if you're a Pack twelve fan,
Speaker 1: you probably wanted UCLA to continue to win, therefore that
Speaker 1: they might be the representative and get into the Final four.
Speaker 1: But Oregon picked up the win. Clemson somehow gets by Syracuse.
Speaker 1: TCU is a sneaky seven and zero, and you got
Speaker 1: Bears in the Patriots coming up tonight. Hi, some phone
Speaker 1: calls here coming up. Also, we said goodbye to Aaron
Speaker 1: Judge after a magical regular season, and he was asked
Speaker 1: after the loss, after being swept by the Astros about
Speaker 1: his future in New York. Have you thought at all
Speaker 1: about what comes next for you? Not? Not at all,
Speaker 1: not yet. Not yet. We got h I got plenty
Speaker 1: of time to figure that out. Did you spend any
Speaker 1: time today thinking about how this could be the last
Speaker 1: game home game through here? Take anything in? Not at all,
Speaker 1: not at all. I totally go out there and do
Speaker 1: my job and and I help this team win. And
Speaker 1: I really didn't. I really didn't think it would it
Speaker 1: happened so quick, you don't really have time to so
Speaker 1: much anymore. Yeah, do I believe he's thought about this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess if I've thought about it, he's probably
Speaker 1: thought about it. And I'm not getting four hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars from the Giants or the Yankees. Yeah, Seaton, I've
Speaker 1: already thought of about forty five hundred places I'm going
Speaker 1: to live if I ever win the lottery, and it's
Speaker 1: just just waiting to cash his lottery tickets are already
Speaker 1: got it, but I hadn't really thought about where I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do that. Yeah. Yes, Now, Judge was patient and
Speaker 1: classic was that third question a little too much? Will
Speaker 1: you enjoy the line? You can think about it tomorrow?
Speaker 1: What about next week? You've gotta be thinking about it
Speaker 1: by next month, they're not going to be They're gonna
Speaker 1: they're not gonna they're not gonna be talking to him.
Speaker 1: Just to clarify, Yeah, they're not gonna three quick questions. No,
Speaker 1: I know, not now, but maybe like an hour a
Speaker 1: week or ten days, certainly by the holidays. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess Aaron Judges thought quite a bit about this,
Speaker 1: probably during a game where he's you know, baseball takes
Speaker 1: a couple hours, you know, and you got a little
Speaker 1: downtime in the outfield going what about Friday when one
Speaker 1: of the World Series starts and you're not playing astro? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: Do you think for for Aaron Judge, will it be
Speaker 1: like the money or will it be the years? As
Speaker 1: far as like a contract, Well, you think somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: off from ten and the Yankees are like, I can't
Speaker 1: keep yet. Well, I think the later years, the added years,
Speaker 1: that'll be the key. It feels like he'll get at
Speaker 1: least forty million dollars a year. And is it going
Speaker 1: to be for ten years? I would be careful if
Speaker 1: if if I was a GM and you said, all right,
Speaker 1: do you want Aaron Judge, but you got to have
Speaker 1: him for ten years, I would think of Albert Pooholes
Speaker 1: and I would go similar age and there might be
Speaker 1: a desperate team. The Angels were trying to have some relevance,
Speaker 1: and you know, they went all in on him and
Speaker 1: he was sort of pedestrian for the most part of
Speaker 1: his career. Yes, I know people think of the Giants.
Speaker 1: That's where he's from. The San Francisco Giants, Yeah. The
Speaker 1: Giants made the playoffs last year and they were eighty
Speaker 1: one and eighty one the San Francisco Giants this year,
Speaker 1: that's good enough for thirty games out of first place.
Speaker 1: They were thirty games behind the Dodgers at eighty one
Speaker 1: eighty one. The Yankees are the first team in baseball
Speaker 1: history to strike out at least fifty times and get
Speaker 1: swept in a playoffs series. I mean, oh the days.
Speaker 1: Here comes that? What stat of the day? Barry in
Speaker 1: Santa Fe joins us Best and Worst of the weekend, Barry,
Speaker 1: welcome back, Good morning fellas, Good morning chat Row. Can
Speaker 1: you believe it? Four weeks in a row, jay E
Speaker 1: t s Jets, Jets, Jets, and I caught your snide
Speaker 1: little uh remark there about everybody heating up on the
Speaker 1: Jets there. I heard that, Oh, I know, are you
Speaker 1: taking receipts to Barry? I am taking and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: patting in, baby, I'm catting in. Yeah, I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I did not have a good feeling about this game,
Speaker 1: because this is the kind of game where they, you know,
Speaker 1: would usually lose, but maybe something difference going on. Worse
Speaker 1: to the weekend, looks like our stud running back Greece
Speaker 1: Hall has a long long um touchdown runs two weekends
Speaker 1: in a row. That would be a bummer. And as
Speaker 1: an added boonist, the Yankees lose. Thank you, Barry. It's
Speaker 1: Barry in Santa Fe. Morgan in Maryland, Hi Morgan, welcome back. Hey,
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, good morning, good morning. So best best and
Speaker 1: worse for the weekend. Worse for the weekend. I gotta
Speaker 1: say Kenny Pickett, so in the interception late in the game,
Speaker 1: I thought it looked like he had, you know, space
Speaker 1: and time to run, get the first down and get
Speaker 1: out of bounds. Give them more of a chance. But
Speaker 1: you know it happens. Best of the weekend. My husband
Speaker 1: and I have an annual pumping carbon contest and I
Speaker 1: am victorious once again. Six and oh he is not
Speaker 1: happy and I love Thank you congratulations Morgan Dominance. I
Speaker 1: think her husband's tanking smart move man. How it's judged?
Speaker 1: H Maybe somebody in the neighborhood independent. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Two of them are like no, mind's better, room minds better. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Harry in Rochester, Hi Harry, Hi Dad. I have a
Speaker 1: questions for Todd. Todd, why do you like all your
Speaker 1: favorite sports teams. They were orange. That's a very good question.
Speaker 1: I thought of rooting for Denver and seventy seven and
Speaker 1: the Astros in eighty and I did get caught up
Speaker 1: in the orange and the bright colors, the orange and blue.
Speaker 1: And then your son goes to Syracuse. Yeah that's a coitsens,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of weird as well. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I like the logos, and I like the rainbow
Speaker 1: colors of the Astros and the d with the horse
Speaker 1: and the whole orange crush thing. That was definitely part
Speaker 1: of why I fell in love with those teams. Tom
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, Hey, Tom, Good morning, Dan, good Morningtime,
Speaker 1: best and worst. Worst of the weekend, doing some remodeling
Speaker 1: in the house, but I didn't get to watch as
Speaker 1: much sports as i'd like. Best of the weekend. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering at what point during the Syracuse Clemson game did
Speaker 1: Todd realize he was going to get too Was it
Speaker 1: the interception or was when wait, so you get you
Speaker 1: get two pies? Right? Yeah? We did like a double
Speaker 1: a nothing and watched him go from twenty one seven
Speaker 1: up to twenty seven twenty one down, and I was
Speaker 1: definitely thinking about the pies throughout that second half of
Speaker 1: you know what, thank you Tom for calling in, because
Speaker 1: if Tom didn't bring it up, you wouldn't have brought
Speaker 1: it out. Two pots. Oh that's right, two pies corp. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got some good fun social media. They liked your
Speaker 1: two piere quick. You know what, if you would have
Speaker 1: brought it up, I would have taken away one. I
Speaker 1: would have I would have will never know, that's not
Speaker 1: you need to trust me, and I would have taken
Speaker 1: away one of the pond dubious. Would you say, smoking
Speaker 1: a dubious dubious that you would take one piecause I
Speaker 1: reminded everyone that I get two pies for Syracuse with
Speaker 1: it all right? Okay, let me take a break. LeVar Arrington,
Speaker 1: former NFL player and radio host with Fox Sports. He
Speaker 1: will join us coming up, and we'll check in with
Speaker 1: the tamp Bay Buccaneers coming up a little bit later on.
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Speaker 1: just sent me a stat had to do with the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers two years ago. Week nine, they were blown out
Speaker 1: by the Saints thirty eight three. Brady had three interceptions,
Speaker 1: They lost two of their next three, had a bye week.
Speaker 1: They were in second place in the NFC South to
Speaker 1: the Saints. They won their next eight, including the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Super Bowl, blowing out the Chiefs. They just don't
Speaker 1: feel as threatening as they did back then. This is
Speaker 1: still supposed to be a really good defense. They had
Speaker 1: some injuries in the secondary, but you go back, what
Speaker 1: were they six and two before? They were blown out
Speaker 1: by the same so they at least got on a
Speaker 1: little bit of a role. They were just blown out
Speaker 1: by Drew Brees and the Saints week nine. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I and then everybody goes, oh, get Gronk back.
Speaker 1: If you're Gronk, would you want to come back to this?
Speaker 1: He'd be like, Nah, I'm good making these cheesy commercials.
Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, former NFL Penn State linebacker. He's got a
Speaker 1: podcast up on Game College Football Hall of Famer and
Speaker 1: good to have him back. On the program, Levart, it's
Speaker 1: been a while. How are you very well, sir? How
Speaker 1: are you being I'm doing okay. If I said you
Speaker 1: gotta pick which team goes further Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: I mean I'd have to go with any team in
Speaker 1: the NFC, right. I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: the problems that Green Bay have are very different than
Speaker 1: the problems that Tampa Bay has. I'm not certain that
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's problems aren't fixable, whereas you know with Green Bay,
Speaker 1: it's just it just looks like the cupboard went from
Speaker 1: being full or have full to to not being um
Speaker 1: properly stocked. Dan So I would most likely say, you know,
Speaker 1: the NFC East, or excuse me, the NFC as a
Speaker 1: as a whole is wide open. But I think that
Speaker 1: they have a really really strong defense in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: They have great weapons on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: They just got to put it together. As you're watching
Speaker 1: Green Bay and the Commanders, you played for Washington. Did
Speaker 1: you root for Washington? Yes, I do. I do root
Speaker 1: for the team. Um, I root for the fan base.
Speaker 1: I love the city, I love the fans, I love
Speaker 1: the team. I just don't like the owner, as I've
Speaker 1: made that's that's been clear for for a really long time.
Speaker 1: In fact, if you go back into the Animals DP,
Speaker 1: I'm probably the first one that was out there talking
Speaker 1: about how crazy the dude is and how he handles
Speaker 1: things with his business affairs. But that was during a
Speaker 1: time where it wasn't very very pronounced, and I got
Speaker 1: a lot of flack and a lot of blowback on
Speaker 1: it as if I didn't like the fans or like
Speaker 1: the city. But it was really the owner that I
Speaker 1: disliked and still dislike, by the way, is there one
Speaker 1: moment that stands out? Oh, there's a few. I mean
Speaker 1: there's a few moments. I mean they tried to paint
Speaker 1: a picture like I couldn't learn defenses. They had Joe
Speaker 1: Gibbs on board with it, they had Greg Williams on
Speaker 1: board with it, and you know, there was there was
Speaker 1: an attempt, an assassination attempt on my character during the
Speaker 1: time that there was, you know, a contract issue, which
Speaker 1: by the way, I would I did just to help
Speaker 1: the team, you know, if people remember what took place,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean probably the contract situation going the
Speaker 1: way that it did is the most memorable because I
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with it, you know. I
Speaker 1: just they asked me, did I want to redo my
Speaker 1: contract to help the team? I said I would, I
Speaker 1: did it. There was a discrepancy in the contract, and
Speaker 1: the rest kind of went from there. Yeah. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm surprised the other owners don't say, you know what,
Speaker 1: you're this guy's bad for business, and but maybe they're
Speaker 1: worried that, you know, it's gonna be returned fire and
Speaker 1: going to oh, you're gonna talk about what I'm doing, dude,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'm going to tell people some of
Speaker 1: the things and there's some powerful people that he probably
Speaker 1: has dirt on. I mean, you'd have to assume. And
Speaker 1: that was released, right. I don't know how true the
Speaker 1: statement was, but I mean the sources that release those
Speaker 1: reports that that those were the things that were coming
Speaker 1: from Dan Snyder's camp, that you know, he's taking the
Speaker 1: whole ship down if they kick him off of it, Um,
Speaker 1: you'd have to assume that there's some truth and validity
Speaker 1: to the things that were being reported. So I don't
Speaker 1: know where where that all stands, but I mean, good
Speaker 1: for business is having an owner of a franchise that
Speaker 1: understands how how the community works and how how sports work.
Speaker 1: And you know what at the at the Bear's minimum,
Speaker 1: how how to talk and treat you know, treat the
Speaker 1: people that work for you well. Also the product you
Speaker 1: put on the field at you know, you traded for
Speaker 1: wins and I didn't know. I didn't think there was
Speaker 1: a market for him, LeVar. It felt like if they
Speaker 1: didn't get him, he was going to be a backup
Speaker 1: quarterback somewhere. I'm you know, Taylor Heineke is fine until
Speaker 1: you find a franchise quarterback if you do, but the
Speaker 1: product on the field has been subpar. We're talking to
Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington and uh you can hear up on Game
Speaker 1: the iHeart podcast, Plexico Burres, uh T, j houshman Zada
Speaker 1: also Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, the show
Speaker 1: that Precedes Hours. I listened to it every morning coming
Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Radio with Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox
Speaker 1: on that program. Um, do you guys give Brady Quinn
Speaker 1: gree I mean he's almost too good looking, like because
Speaker 1: they're he's perfect looking man. Yeah, you know, he's got
Speaker 1: he's got a great voice. He's like a he's a
Speaker 1: young Dan Patrick, like, you probably got a lot of
Speaker 1: grief when you were younger. Yeah, you know, you probably
Speaker 1: still get grief now. You know. It's just those strikingly
Speaker 1: good looks and the fine voice that you guys. We
Speaker 1: gotta give you guys a hard time. I mean, somebody's
Speaker 1: got to do it, you know, and they hired me
Speaker 1: to be a part of doing though. But you hate quarterbacks, right,
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks always are the good guys. They get them. I
Speaker 1: don't hate them, um, but I certainly never really liked them,
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't hate them. But in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, the cheerleader department, I had game DP, so
Speaker 1: I didn't have to work about the good looks. My
Speaker 1: game was good. You know. Were you one of the
Speaker 1: first guys to wear didn't you wear eleven? I did
Speaker 1: I create? That's me? Eleven is me I am. I
Speaker 1: am mister sticks the original. But did were there any
Speaker 1: you look faster when you wear a number like that?
Speaker 1: But I didn't know given the position that you played. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, usually you're wearing a number in the fifth
Speaker 1: bigger number like fifty or forty or you know, but
Speaker 1: Derek Brooks wore number ten, So I ended up getting
Speaker 1: number eleven because I wanted to be Derek Brooks. I
Speaker 1: wanted number ten when I went to college, but it
Speaker 1: was taken and I was kind of like a little
Speaker 1: but heard about it. But they were like, why not
Speaker 1: be the first you instead of the next Derek Brooks?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that that makes sense. So
Speaker 1: I thought about a number that a linebacker had never
Speaker 1: worn and made famous, and I came up with eleven.
Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame. Do you make a
Speaker 1: case if people say, should you be in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame? Do you nah? I don't. Do you fight
Speaker 1: for it? Nah? I don't. I had a good career.
Speaker 1: I think you know when I went to when I
Speaker 1: went to New York, if I would have been there,
Speaker 1: my contract was for seven years. Had I been a
Speaker 1: part of those two super bowls, you can't put Eli
Speaker 1: Manning in the Hall of Fame if LaVar Arrington doesn't
Speaker 1: go into the Hall of Fame. I would have made
Speaker 1: a case if I'd have got to two super Bowls,
Speaker 1: But three Pro Bowls, isn't I don't. I don't. That's
Speaker 1: certainly not enough. And then college football, I'm the best,
Speaker 1: I'm a goat, I'm not even like I stacked my career.
Speaker 1: I stacked my highlights. Lights as as a defender, I
Speaker 1: stack them up. The only person that I'll say better
Speaker 1: than me in the annals is probably Charles Woodson. I'm
Speaker 1: probably like the best college football player that nobody really
Speaker 1: talks about. And I sound self absorbed, DP, but you
Speaker 1: know what, this is the final frontier for me. This
Speaker 1: will be the last time that football is something where
Speaker 1: there's a destination for me, which is going into the
Speaker 1: College Hall of Fame in December. So I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of living in that right now. Okay, so the best
Speaker 1: you're not talking about the best defensive player in college football.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the defense. Now, I'm sad defense. So
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson is the best defensive player. I think Charles
Speaker 1: Woodson is the best player all time period. I think
Speaker 1: if you look at everything he's done at every level,
Speaker 1: you're you're saying the best football player. If I take
Speaker 1: in college and I take in the pros, well with
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson. With me, I just say college defense, defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. For me, I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: take my you know, I'll take my chances in a debate.
Speaker 1: So Charles Woodson the greatest football player. I think Charles
Speaker 1: Woodson is the greatest football player from top to bottom,
Speaker 1: from inception of playing till the time you retire. I
Speaker 1: think he's the greatest football player ever. Let's look at
Speaker 1: the AFC right now, it feels like it's just Buffalo
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, and then you will be correct. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make you a defensive player facing You
Speaker 1: can face Mahomes or uh or Allen in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: If I had to choose, I'd rather play against Alan
Speaker 1: because he's a more physical grinder in a game, like
Speaker 1: he'll bring the game to you and and so that
Speaker 1: would give me some type of hope that we could
Speaker 1: actually turn it into a game with my Homes. It's
Speaker 1: it's he delivers the ball from so many different angles
Speaker 1: and and the route progressions that that they draw up,
Speaker 1: the schemes that they draw up with coach Reid is
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's just it's it's it's been unsolvable.
Speaker 1: He's he's in his zone and no one has caught
Speaker 1: up to him yet. Yeah, I guess it's a defender.
Speaker 1: You want the guy who's he's gonna be right there
Speaker 1: in front of you. John Allen is gonna be right
Speaker 1: there in front of you, right there in front of you. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he's a big guy. I think I think people don't
Speaker 1: realize how big quarterbacks are because we see what you
Speaker 1: guys do to them. But you know, being around Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan's a legitimate six five maybe six six. Roethlisberger was
Speaker 1: a big guy. I mean, there's a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, which makes you wonder why the
Speaker 1: referees treat them like big old babies. Right, Okay, solved
Speaker 1: for me then, I mean it's contact football, it's contact sports.
Speaker 1: I say there's two ways of approaching this. Either allow
Speaker 1: them to be a part of the game or don't
Speaker 1: you know, don't let like once you once you once
Speaker 1: you get to a certain perimeter. You know, all this
Speaker 1: technology create an invisible uh you know, parameter like like
Speaker 1: a a dog like you know, yeah, sure, like what
Speaker 1: they do with with diamonds and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 1: you got the you know, you got to see security.
Speaker 1: You know, the little red lines around and put the
Speaker 1: red lines around and make that the sack so you
Speaker 1: don't have to touch them. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons yesterday and you're gonna wait, he got called
Speaker 1: for roughing. Somebody got called for roughing. They pulled somebody
Speaker 1: down by one finger. I'm just it's already a touch.
Speaker 1: It's tough, and you touch them it is if you
Speaker 1: touch the quarterback anymore. I mean, the one with Chris
Speaker 1: Jones was crazy, Like that's crazy, Like you you you
Speaker 1: got to him, you're getting the ball, You're going down.
Speaker 1: You're both going down. You're trying to secure the ball.
Speaker 1: The ball is still kind of in the balance. You're
Speaker 1: trying to secure the ball. You land on him, and
Speaker 1: they said you put too much forced like too much
Speaker 1: of a percentage of force on his body when you landed.
Speaker 1: Like wait, what do you mean too much of a
Speaker 1: percentage of force on his body? I don't get that.
Speaker 1: But there's all kinds of different rules that are are
Speaker 1: governing and acting quarterbacks. I get it. They sell tickets,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're the pretty guys as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, they do great interviews. Uh, they get the cheerleader.
Speaker 1: But you know what, there are other guys out there
Speaker 1: that that make the game go as well, that that
Speaker 1: would like to have a little bit of time to
Speaker 1: enjoy with those quarterbacks on Sundays. What do you think
Speaker 1: is going to be that mark of if you get
Speaker 1: above this number with sacks, that that's gonna open the
Speaker 1: door for being a Hall of Famer? Is it? It's
Speaker 1: one hundred sacks? The number? I mean, if you get
Speaker 1: to a hundred sack club, you are you you have
Speaker 1: done something amazing. Does that get you into the Hall?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know, but that
Speaker 1: is a tremendous That is a tremendous accomplishment to get
Speaker 1: to a hundred sack club. Aaron Donald just got over
Speaker 1: a hundred. Yeah tackle, Yeah, you know, he's from where
Speaker 1: I'm from, Mere Pittsburgh, guys, He's he's from Penn Hills.
Speaker 1: I'm from North Hills, but our families are are from
Speaker 1: the same area. I'm super proud that he's from where
Speaker 1: we're from. I think he's one of he's he's certainly
Speaker 1: the greatest defensive line UH defender. Um. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: a guy as dominant as Aaron Donald, um since Reggie
Speaker 1: Reggie White. Like I'm a big fan of J. J. Watt,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Warren sap Um in the
Speaker 1: way that they played the game. There's a few more
Speaker 1: out there that that I really like their games as
Speaker 1: defensive lineman defenders, but Aaron Donald is something of another
Speaker 1: and I enjoy watching them play. I you know, he's undersized,
Speaker 1: but he is a brick s house and he understands
Speaker 1: how to contort his body and how to manipulate the
Speaker 1: hands and the shoulders and and leverage points of of
Speaker 1: offensive blockers. I just I just of his game. I
Speaker 1: love his motor, love his game. Who's the greatest? So
Speaker 1: you think Reggie White greatest defensive player NFL history, greatest
Speaker 1: defensive player in NFL history, which is now being being
Speaker 1: challenged by Aaron Donald defensive player ever, I would say
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor. I'd say Lawrence Taylor still is the most
Speaker 1: dominant defensive player we've we've ever seen. But when you're
Speaker 1: talking about the versatility being able to do the things
Speaker 1: that Aaron Donald has done from the different positions that
Speaker 1: he's done it for the amount of time that he's
Speaker 1: done it for, it's it's up for a question. But
Speaker 1: keep in mind, Lawrence Taylor did get MVP of the league,
Speaker 1: and I believe he's the only defender to ever get
Speaker 1: that accomplishment. When you get that good anybody gets that
Speaker 1: MVP of the League award DP, then now you can
Speaker 1: start to have a conversation of they maybe better or
Speaker 1: greater UM than LT. But until then, that man still
Speaker 1: stands on a mountain alone. Good to talk to you. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame. The that's uh LeVar Arrington
Speaker 1: joining us the up on Game iHeart podcast with t J. Hushman,
Speaker 1: Zada and Plexico Burris. Also two pros and a cup
Speaker 1: of Joe Alan Page I think was MVP of the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah for the Vikings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul I got
Speaker 1: the list of the all time sack leaders. I could
Speaker 1: save it. But there's a bunch of guys with over
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten sacks that don't feel like they're
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Famer. They don't have to
Speaker 1: wait a bit like like, um, Jared Allen, Jared Allen. Um,
Speaker 1: when I when you when I say Jared Allen, do
Speaker 1: I think do you think Hall of Fame? Yes, he's
Speaker 1: a five four time All Pro. He's twelfth all time
Speaker 1: in NFL history of sacks at one thirty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of sacks. There's Guys like Terrell Suggs
Speaker 1: will probably go he thirty nine, he's a Hall of Famer. Um,
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor got in for one hundred and thirty nine sacks.
Speaker 1: But there's guys like Lessie O'Neill, Simeon Rice, Robert Mathis. Yep,
Speaker 1: that those are the white Freeny. Those are all over
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty sacks in their career. It feels
Speaker 1: like Mathis and Freeney cancel each other out because they
Speaker 1: played on the same team. Lesie O'Neill played for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: which no offense. I think it really hurts people on
Speaker 1: the West Coast sometimes. Yes, some of those players feel
Speaker 1: like they're like, oh yeah, that guy, remember him? Kind
Speaker 1: of players, you know, like Jared Allen is he You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was awesome, but he but you can kind of
Speaker 1: forget about his place in history in a way. You
Speaker 1: get those moments and is that Hall of Famer If
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, may he was awesome? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: once again, not everybody goes to the penthouse of the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, And I think that's what happens. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you go, well, is he as good as Reggie White? Well, no,
Speaker 1: he's not Is he as good as and then you
Speaker 1: start throwing out these other names. So yes, I move
Speaker 1: you down. So there's the penthouse and then third floor
Speaker 1: or second floor, first floor, and then the basement. You
Speaker 1: got into the Hall of Fame, and he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that would probably be on the first floor
Speaker 1: going there. He is not going to be upstairs, but
Speaker 1: he's in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the numbers. It appears that you have to have a
Speaker 1: couple of those monster seasons where you have seventeen eighteen
Speaker 1: sacks and your first team All Pro because JJ Watt
Speaker 1: has one hundred and five sacks, Cameron Jordan has one
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven of the Saints. I don't think Cameron
Speaker 1: Jordan is looking at the Hall of Fame. He's very
Speaker 1: media friendly. Well here's the tricky part now, because there's
Speaker 1: so many pounds attempts, there's more chances for you to
Speaker 1: get sacks. Go back, these guys who played in the
Speaker 1: sixties and the seventies, how many times were you throwing
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, eighteen twenty twenty two times. Imagine
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor now, given all the opportunities that he would
Speaker 1: have with more pounce attempts. Imagine Deacon Jones if he
Speaker 1: played now. I mean you can run down the list
Speaker 1: of great defensive players, but how many you had to
Speaker 1: be able to play the run as well as you
Speaker 1: know the past. Yeah, I wonder though, and not really
Speaker 1: playing Devil's advocate, but just wondering out loud, if Lawrence
Speaker 1: Taylor would have gotten the opportunity to be as good
Speaker 1: as he was considering how much harder the game is
Speaker 1: for defense just based on the calls and how fast
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get rid of the ball. I mean, the game
Speaker 1: has changed, you know, in in both ways. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: might have an impact in a different way, but but
Speaker 1: he was given free reign. When when you think about
Speaker 1: now you can line up somebody and just say Junior
Speaker 1: Sao or Troy Palomalo. You'd be like, line up wherever
Speaker 1: you want to. Yeah, I just remember the defense didn't
Speaker 1: know where to prepare for Lawrence Taylor. Um, you know
Speaker 1: the fact that he changed a game plan for the
Speaker 1: for the best team in football Washington, where Joe Gibbs said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a tight end stay in and
Speaker 1: help Joe Jacobe. I'm gonna have my all pro tackle.
Speaker 1: Get help because we're facing Lawrence Taylor and seeing that
Speaker 1: up close, that was real. Who I just couldn't imagine
Speaker 1: being a quarterback and not thinking about I'd go to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and hopefully my teeth wouldn't be chattering,
Speaker 1: but I'd go to the line of scrimmage. Ago, where
Speaker 1: is us over the death step? Blue Blue? I'm blue, Holy,
Speaker 1: get me out of here. I'm in trouble. But he
Speaker 1: was so fast off the edge like crazy. Yeah. If
Speaker 1: you think they think the Blue eighteen, let me take
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Speaker 1: of the weekend. We'll check in with the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers coming up next hour. Packers are currently ten and
Speaker 1: a half point underdogs at Buffalo this weekend. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has never been a double digit dog in his career. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a first for everything here. By the way, I
Speaker 1: was watching the Giants and they're not very exciting, but
Speaker 1: I have to acknowledge what is what's happening there? And
Speaker 1: you have a coach who knows what he's doing, and
Speaker 1: they play hard for him, and they just seem to
Speaker 1: hang around every game. Se Quon has played well. Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones rushes for over one hundred yards. This is what
Speaker 1: I didn't know when I watch him. I go, I
Speaker 1: know he's got talent, but they don't feature him like
Speaker 1: he has talent, if that makes sense. He is the
Speaker 1: first Giants quarterback to rush for over one hundred yards
Speaker 1: in a game. Since nineteen thirty four out, not that
Speaker 1: you've had that many quarterbacks play for the Giants. Where
Speaker 1: you go, man, that guy, if he gets out on
Speaker 1: the edge, he can take it. But whenever you bring
Speaker 1: up something has to do with Daniel Jones running, everybody
Speaker 1: says the same thing. Oh, is that the guy who tripped?
Speaker 1: He was all alone. He's going to run an eighty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown. He tripped yesterday as well. Yeah, Paul, I'm
Speaker 1: curious about the Giants. Oh, the situation they have coming up.
Speaker 1: Let's say they finish the season, what will be like
Speaker 1: Let's say ten, six, eleven and six and maybe a
Speaker 1: first round play off exit. Daniel Jones keeps playing well,
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley plays well, you can only franchise Tag one
Speaker 1: of those two. I think they're one of those two
Speaker 1: has to be let go, and Squans is the star
Speaker 1: of the team, but not necessarily Daniel Jones. There's no
Speaker 1: middle ground on contracts anymore. That's the problem. So you'd
Speaker 1: franchise Tag Daniel Jones and see if he's still good
Speaker 1: next year, and then you signed sae Quon Barkley, though,
Speaker 1: what four years, forty million? If you're lucky, you could
Speaker 1: get him for forty million. I don't know. It might
Speaker 1: be four years for sixty million, but man, that's Stacey.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's go around the room. Best and
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend, Toddler, I'll start with you. Best
Speaker 1: of the weekend Oregon qb BO Nicks leading the Ducks
Speaker 1: past UCLA. Nothing against Ucla, but give us the bruth
Speaker 1: their first loss of the season. Twenty two of twenty eight,
Speaker 1: two hundred and three yards, five tds. Worst of the weekend,
Speaker 1: As you may have guessed we talked about earlier. Previously
Speaker 1: undefeated Syracuse nearly shot Clemson in death Valley, squandering at
Speaker 1: twenty one seven league, giving up the last twenty points
Speaker 1: of the game, and you get two pies and I
Speaker 1: get two pies because they could not hold on against
Speaker 1: its double or nothing U Seaton O'Connor. I'm actually saving
Speaker 1: my best and worst of the weekend for looking Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: how about that? Okay, how about that? If you're watching
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Speaker 1: Best of the Weekend. Kenneth's Walker the Third Junior j
Speaker 1: thir twenty three kerries huny sixty eight yards, two touchdowns
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. Good for him, Seahawks another wind,
Speaker 1: Papa Gino. Let's go worst of the weekend Jared Groff
Speaker 1: four interceptions, two interceptions, Um, you know? Two four? Two
Speaker 1: lost turnovers, two lost fumbles. Excuse me totally. If I
Speaker 1: told that out to get nine? How many? How many
Speaker 1: turnovers did he have? Marv? You got him with eight? Nine? No?
Speaker 1: What I said? Four? I said four turnovers? You said
Speaker 1: you lost pass you lost children? How many turnovers to
Speaker 1: Jared golf Four? Okay that included the fumbles. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: it's just a little confused. Are you pounding now? Britzie time.
Speaker 1: He was breaking down the four turnovers as to what
Speaker 1: they were, and then you headed them up. Okay, you
Speaker 1: just had another one, Jared Golfing another turnover. Well, my
Speaker 1: Rhode Island rams dan or the Monmouth Hawks forty eight,
Speaker 1: forty six and seven overtimes. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: count stats, but they do they do, I think so,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they should check it out. But
Speaker 1: the Rhode Island rams one. Then here's a good one.
Speaker 1: Saint Thomas of Minnesota they're big time now they're six
Speaker 1: and one. They're good squad. They took it to the
Speaker 1: Presbyterian Blue Hose. But the reason I'm giving this credit
Speaker 1: the quarterback for Saint Thomas great name Cade Sex Hour eight.
Speaker 1: Sex Hour was fourteen for nineteen with a touchdown Cade
Speaker 1: sex Hour, Yes time. And you know what they say,
Speaker 1: every hour is sex out. That's what they say in
Speaker 1: Saint Thomas these days. I don't I don't think on
Speaker 1: campus they say that for sex hour you go, yes, Eden.
Speaker 1: Is this where we're supposed to be ripping Paul for
Speaker 1: doing like the self serving Rhode Island game. Like if
Speaker 1: Todd had done Syracuse, he'd be like, oh, what nobody
Speaker 1: cares about that? Well, Paul just lives up visits Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean he's not mentioning Sacred Heart University.
Speaker 1: They they took the el this weekend, not this time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're probably right. I would have ripped Fritzie on Syracuse,
Speaker 1: ripped Todd's back, ye, Devil's advocate one more right, and
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