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Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who

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Speaker 1: talks back. What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning them

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Speaker 1: for a new episode that we talked back. It's your

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Speaker 1: co host A J. Holiday. What up? Hey, y'all, it's me,

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Speaker 1: damn bam. I love y'all. What's again this week? I dude,

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Speaker 1: I love you too, a J. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: tell you enough. I tell you, but I don't tell

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Speaker 1: you know. If I love you so much, I love

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Speaker 1: me too. I like my strangers, I love you warning

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Speaker 1: him I love him too, though. What's up? Job? We've

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Speaker 1: been going on? Girl, I ain't doing ship this weekend,

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Speaker 1: if that's what you're asking. Nothing. I stayed in the

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Speaker 1: house because I'm going away next weekend again, so I

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Speaker 1: saved my money for that, and I adn't feel like

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Speaker 1: being bothered with nobody's selling this weekend, so I just

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Speaker 1: kind of chilled what you did? So apparently I've been

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Speaker 1: at out of high school for twenty years now as

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Speaker 1: an old bitch. So we had like a little pull

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Speaker 1: up some of my classmates. It was a good time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was a really good time. Saw some people I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen in a while because even though I'm in Charleston,

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Speaker 1: I don't see nobody. Honestly, I don't, so yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got to see something. Actually, one of my classmates does

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Speaker 1: go to the gym with me. Other than that, I

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Speaker 1: won't be seeing nobody. So it was a good time

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Speaker 1: with them. We went out, went to a couple of spots.

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Speaker 1: You a little better than all of them, of course. Okay,

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Speaker 1: clear Me and my best decince first grade Priscilla, of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, shopping all people and adolescent saying adulthood. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that was a good time. That's all I had going

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Speaker 1: on and ship computer ship. I'm starting to read more, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all read, but I read. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to read more. So you read some books? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was reading this week every right, like a bit

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Speaker 1: you can read like I'm starting to read more. It's

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Speaker 1: like a read bed on this ship. Like look at God,

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Speaker 1: an't you doing? I get right? I write really well,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A writer, But I guess

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Speaker 1: my thoughts. But when I do, it's really good. So

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Speaker 1: I need I've picked up reading a little bit more

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Speaker 1: so I can get my my comprehension skills and spelling

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Speaker 1: skills and reading skills altogether. Okay, so what are you

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Speaker 1: reading right now? These nuts? I'm reading this book. I'm

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Speaker 1: reading a book. I get people what I'm reading because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, man, this bitch is the devil.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. What's reading thinking? Girl? Big? Is Napoleon Hill book.

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Speaker 1: It's just a book about like your thoughts and manifesting

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Speaker 1: and things like that. Yeah, that's what I'm reading right now.

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Speaker 1: And then I also reading in the Art of Commerce,

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Speaker 1: stre you a whole That's a whole book. The Artist

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Speaker 1: is Sorry, the artist deduction. Oh I've read that before.

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Speaker 1: I have that. Yeah, but I've been reading books on

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Speaker 1: magic and ship trying to perfect my craft a little

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Speaker 1: bit better. See'all, motherfucker's better be careful. What uh? We

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Speaker 1: We actually have some spells on today, So that's good.

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Speaker 1: We got some spells on. Uh huh Susan spells. Oh right,

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Speaker 1: but we'll get back to that all right. Let's get

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Speaker 1: into stupid internet news. Cha cha chat? Okay, Sorrihanna finally

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Speaker 1: got going on an army. Rihanna is assumingly because she

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Speaker 1: that they are now the National Finty League, So that

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Speaker 1: will let us know that Rihanna is going to be

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Speaker 1: Rihanna is super chunky right now after that damn baby.

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Speaker 1: I like, yes, I want to bite Rihanna. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: are you gay? No? But she just looks soft. That's

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Speaker 1: the gayest ship you ever said. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: for Rihanna though, me too. I'm happy for her. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: be happy to Oh, let's get into Mystical. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you guys saw this, but um Mr Cole

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Speaker 1: supposedly asked his victim of sexual assault he forced her

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Speaker 1: he was going to remove the demons from her. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: he was the demon. He's a sexual demon, and he

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Speaker 1: That dude is a menace to society. And I used

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Speaker 1: to love Mtical like Mticle is fine as hell, like

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Speaker 1: why you gotta take pussy. I'm pretty sure there's a

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Speaker 1: But we know rape is not about like, well exactly,

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Speaker 1: it's not about the sentence about control and power over

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Speaker 1: somebody else. Why why you want to be out here

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Speaker 1: gotta get the funk up out of here. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: and anybody like him, they gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 1: You're just around here just ruining people lives, right quick, right,

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Speaker 1: don't take nobody's body from him. I hope they shake

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Speaker 1: your faith and so your way. You're a little stupid.

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Speaker 1: Like I had a conversation with a friend yesterday and

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Speaker 1: we gotta focus on men not rape women, right, but

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Speaker 1: have no self control? And he was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say black women in particular, right, how many

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Speaker 1: It is. And you know, farewell to that nigga, Sorry

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Speaker 1: to that nigger. Moving right along, we gotta talk about

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Speaker 1: it nia long and I can't how do you pronounced

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Speaker 1: that gentleman's name a duca ducal. So apparently this man

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Speaker 1: that I called cheating on the ain't none of us safe, y'all? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't be surprised exactly. Ain't nobody exempt from real

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Speaker 1: life events. Let's be clear, even Kneel Long or Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: Beyonce got cheated on too. All that's gone got cheated on.

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Speaker 1: So Niil Long is no different. Okay? Do we even think?

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Speaker 1: I'm almost starting to feel like mono monogamy. It's an

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Speaker 1: and maybe they're in a non monogam this relationship. You

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Speaker 1: just never know. What I do know is that why

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Speaker 1: the funk? You can't funx somebody outside of the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: So this is the head coach of the Magna be

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Speaker 1: So here's the backstory, y'all. So a mayaducal head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Celtics. He's been put on a year long suspension.

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Speaker 1: They didn't say indefinitely, So right now he's suspended for

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Speaker 1: a year from the team. Right, he apparently was having

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Speaker 1: this man doesn't have more money than the Along. I

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Speaker 1: don't know the basketball team NBA team, yes, and I

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Speaker 1: act like that's most women like, Okay, yeah, cheated, but

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Speaker 1: it's the embarrassment that it's the embarrassment like now the

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Speaker 1: as almost like she has to make a choice. She's forced, girl,

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Speaker 1: the first time he cheated. But this woman, the travel

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Speaker 1: agent or whatever, he just she just helped her move

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Speaker 1: Clearly the funk wasn't personal. But imagine this is the

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Speaker 1: motherfucker who scheduled ship for the team, right, so you're

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Speaker 1: probably scheduling your disappointment when my man before you schedule

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Speaker 1: me to come. She's a help she's a helpful home. Yo. Listen,

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Speaker 1: at least you consider it. No, I would beat her up.

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Speaker 1: You're playing in my face. That's for me. It's about

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Speaker 1: it's the respect. You know. What I'm saying is that

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Speaker 1: the lack of respect. Who had it the man of

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Speaker 1: the like that the lack of respect is her man.

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Speaker 1: She's doing her job. That's her job, right, she can't.

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Speaker 1: Your job is not the man. You know, her job

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Speaker 1: is ship though, right that your job is not the schedule.

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Speaker 1: You're pussy on his dick along with that. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we know just like the I always say that, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the home record is the motherfucker that's in the home. Yes, understood.

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Speaker 1: be like, uh, tam you call it? The baby is three? Fun?

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00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Do you want? That's like only special people like right

422
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: the hand of that type of ships. So, UM, do

423
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: you do you recommend uh that people actually have dolers

424
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: versus going to hospitals at all, like going to like

425
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: regular traditional doctors. Would you recommend that every all black

426
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: women just have doulas. I would recommend well, I would say,

427
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: for one, you can have a duet inside the hospital,

428
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: especially in like rural areas where there's not a lot

429
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: of you know, birthing centers and um midwives in the

430
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: area to come to your home birth. There is the

431
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: option of having a hospital birth, but you can't have

432
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: a duel inside that hospital birth. UM, but I do.

433
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: I will recommend every Black woman to birth that home

434
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: to birth with a midwife, into birth with the doulah,

435
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: those three things period, because at the end of the day,

436
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: there is something broken inside of the hospital system to

437
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: brest in medicine and something broken, and we are being

438
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: fought for it. It works, It's not broken because it worked.

439
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: It worked doing what it's supposed to do to us

440
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: right in particular right, and it's it definitely needs a change.

441
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: So that's why I definitely recommend every Black woman, even

442
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: if even if there isn't a chance that you cannot

443
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: um have a home birth in the area that you

444
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: are in, how are that duel? How are that duel

445
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: is to come into the hospital with you? And I mean,

446
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: I guess when will think about having to pay for

447
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: a doula or even a midwife, the the amount of

448
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: money you pay for for a hospital birth, it's probably

449
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: three to four times more than the money you could

450
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: just put aside to you know, finance a dula and

451
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: a midwife, have your video at home, like I would

452
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: definitely have my child. I'm not interested in all these

453
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: people in the room, right, I don't know, don't suck

454
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: with it when I'm trying to have birth. UM, there's

455
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: different type of duelas right, there's not just a birthing

456
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: duelas to tell us about a couple of different um

457
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: types of duels. So, UM, but a mom can expect

458
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: from him. You have a postparton duo UM, and that

459
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: postparton dula usually helps them after birth, after birth the

460
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: three to six months down the line, things like that

461
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: you have UM a death dula and that's a dula

462
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: that supports when UM a child has passed away UM

463
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: during the pregnancy or during the birth. UM, you have

464
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: a boy, she can do us do us who support

465
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: women who would want to go have an abortion? UM,

466
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: who'll spect you do as they do everything? UM. All

467
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: the postpartum person supposed to birth doer. You have fertility

468
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: doers who help women become pregnant. UM. So there's a

469
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: lot of different types of doers depending on the need

470
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: of the woman. Okay, what type of duel are you?

471
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm a birth doer and a postpartum do it. Okay,

472
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: so I can't call you three years after the baby

473
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: been born. That's not three years. But listen, long as

474
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: long as you're willing to keep on paying, I will

475
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: be there. I would there. You're gonna be high as

476
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: hell girl. So all right, we're uh do lahs and midwives.

477
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: Let's say a woman is having a baby, she's actually

478
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: in the act of having a child. Can she get

479
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: an epidural? But she gotta have natural breaths, not at home. Yeah,

480
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: it's all natural. So that's another thing that you sign

481
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: up for when you are um doing a homebirth, you

482
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: are signed up for all natural. You gotta be a

483
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: big woman. You gotta be a big, big, big girl.

484
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: And I know it. I know it hurts, but that's

485
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: what that dost for it and that's why we are

486
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: there to help you do different things to manage that pain.

487
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: We do different positions. Um, we put you in different

488
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: things and give you different things to just help you

489
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: with that pain. Because, like you said, it's also all natural.

490
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: Can you give me some examples of some of those things, yes,

491
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: because if I'm gonna need y'all to roll me up

492
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: of blood. Like, hey, I sad. Clients act like, hey,

493
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: can I at least have some CBD. I'm like, whatever,

494
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: you whatever you need to do, all right? Of course,

495
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: just walking, we do curb walking. Uh. We do positions

496
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: with the roboso um, which is a sticking tool that

497
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: we use for birth um, hands and knees, lunges. So

498
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot of like active little workouts. Um,

499
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: we're on the birth ball. We can get you in

500
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: your bathtub. If we don't have a birth pool, we

501
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: can do birth birth pool or backtub exercises to help

502
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: believe that pain um tense machines, accupesture massages for all

503
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: types of different little things, y'all don acupuncture. Wow, Okay,

504
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: when should someone hire a doa like? So you just

505
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: find out your pregn you oh you did say you?

506
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: Um have been with some moms from the time they

507
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: tee on the stick. But usually when do people hire

508
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: a door, usually they hire them after they get their

509
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: first appointment and they find out their estimated to dates. Okay,

510
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: mm hmm, I'm still thinking about all right. So let's

511
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: say we're doing a natural birth and the baby is breached,

512
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: didn't you just rush into a hospital or like what

513
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: is that? Because then you don't almost have to go

514
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: to the hospital, right, No, No, that's that's where we're

515
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: taking you know, that's what we're taught. But with a

516
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: trained mint wife who knows what they're doing, they will

517
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: be able to deliver that baby breach um. And that's

518
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: the thing most that we're taught that you know, if

519
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: your baby's breached up, that's it. There's no vaginal bird,

520
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: there's your c section and not knowing there's so many

521
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: different things that you can at least try to do

522
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: to help get baby to turn. Also, waiting, you know,

523
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: they say thirty seven weeks, but you have a true

524
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: forty two weeks to wait until your baby is safely

525
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: come so baby can flip any time. Um. But with

526
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: that train mint wife, they will be able to deliver

527
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: that baby safely, no problem. What do you think about? How? Um? What?

528
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: I just had a class in its past um weekend

529
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: and one of my classmates she's pregnant. This is her

530
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: first baby. You know we all always okay, So she

531
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: was saying, like her induced date, they already gave her

532
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: an induced date for for November, but her due date

533
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: isn't until December. What do you think about them inducing

534
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: pregnancies because you just said weight right, wait until the

535
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: baby is ready to come, because I think it's uh

536
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: important for the baby to come through the birth canal. Right,

537
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: So what do you think about how doctors are quick

538
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: to give black women's a lot of C sections. I

539
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: feel like they just want to scar us um and

540
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: just making sure you know, UM, you aren't Russian the

541
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: process right. I feel like it's very selfish and they

542
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: most of the time, I only think about themselves. They

543
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: could be planning for vacation, or they have so many

544
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: women that they just want to get it knocked out.

545
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, so different things UM that comes into play

546
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: with induction. Induction is not always bad, but when it's unnecessary,

547
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: it can lead to a lot of interventions that we

548
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: don't want to happen. UM. So for women, especially Black women,

549
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: we have to educate ourselves and understand the process of

550
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: births UM. And if there's no medical reason to induce

551
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: the benefits of waiting until labor naturally starts on its own,

552
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: So what's the benefits? Um? You allow the baby to

553
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: develop their lungs, foods more. Um. Being able to carry

554
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: full term and deliver full term is better than having

555
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: a thirty five week old baby that's been induced or

556
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: c section or anything like that, because it gives them

557
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: more time to just develop and grow and get all

558
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: those extra benefits and nutriments that you provide through your

559
00:33:54,360 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: precenta and things like that. Mhm, yeah, because I think

560
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: got read like they pick up like a certain bacteria

561
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: that the baby needs that comes when coming through the

562
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: birth can now that you miss when you have c

563
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: sections and stuff like that. So do you think that

564
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: plays a part in like, well we said development of

565
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: the baby, but maybe even having um. There's a lot

566
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: of children now for whatever reason, they have autism. A

567
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: lot of black boys in particular that have autism. So

568
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: I wonder what the correlation between UM, c section and

569
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: vaccination men got to do with you know what's happening

570
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: with with with the black boys in particular. Yes, especially

571
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: with vaccines. A lot of we we are just not educated.

572
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: We're taught, Oh you got it two plus years ago.

573
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: So it's just still be safe. You have to look

574
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: into those things and it's okay to then that mine

575
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: they change just like the medicine on the shelf. It changes,

576
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: so everything changes and you just have to be educated

577
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: to know that you know, it may not be the same.

578
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I've definitely read and seen a lot of stories of

579
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: women saying, you know that their child was normal and

580
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: they was advanced and they were smart, and then they

581
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: went to get there three year old vaccines and then

582
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: they start to see signs of autism and signs of

583
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 1: them decelerating. So different things like that has to show

584
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: you that, Okay, it must be something that we need

585
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: to look more into before we just sign up because

586
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 1: medical standard, because the school wants you to have vaccination. Wait,

587
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: there's homeschooling, so there's different options. But we just have

588
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: to be educated. Do you promote do you promote like homeschooling?

589
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: And I don't really want to ask your stance on vaccination,

590
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: but is that something you kind of coach moms on, like, hey,

591
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: you know, how do you feel about this because you

592
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: have influenced Yes, well I do. I do ask them.

593
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: I never want to pers the way them in a

594
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: way that I would personally go because at the end

595
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: of the days, their child and that's definitely what the

596
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: doctors do there Hey, you know you have to do

597
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: this because if not, you're gonna kill your baby or

598
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna put your baby at risk. So I never

599
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: want to be like that. So I always educate them.

600
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: Ask them first, hey, how do you feel about this?

601
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: What do you feel about this? Um? And then educate

602
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: them Black I have a client um. Mom didn't want circumcision,

603
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: but dad wanted sig decision, and they asked my personal

604
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: opin um. I said, I would give my son circumcise,

605
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: but I also would leave it up to the dad

606
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: to make that decision only because he's a man. He

607
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: has to live with it. He knows, just like if

608
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: there was a situation with us as a woman, they

609
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: don't have no right. So it's up to you because

610
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: you are a woman, and whatever you say, you know.

611
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: But also just communicate. But yeah, I definitely don't try

612
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: to just force my opinion, but I definitely just try

613
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: to guide and edgue cake and provide resources so they

614
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: can make their own choice. What's the benefits of circumcision?

615
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm confused about, like why they dick came with

616
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: that extremity. I honestly do not know. I honestly do

617
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: not know. I have to do some more research on it.

618
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: It's biblicult. Yeah, people get circumcised. It's some Bible ship.

619
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, if the dick came that way, it should

620
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: probably stay that way. It takes away sensation, you know

621
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: when you cut that ford skin off, Like it's it's

622
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: a religious thing why babies are circumcised, because if you

623
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: look at muslimen, a lot of them are not circumcised. Um,

624
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: go ahead, sorry, Susan. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

625
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: that's so true. That is definitely so true. Um. But

626
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: they I know, there's there's benefits and circumcis circumcising, but

627
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: they also said there's benefits and not circumcising, And they're saying,

628
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, you just need to teach propericness and different

629
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: things like that when you're not circumcised. Right, That's what

630
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: I say. It's just a personal opinion. It's definitely a

631
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: personal opinion. Like, I don't know how true this is,

632
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: but I did research it on the internet. One time

633
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: I was talking about circumcision. It said that that foreskin

634
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: is for the man to like remove the previous man's

635
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: sperm from the vagina. Probably why they sell they say

636
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: it smells yeah, So that means you're not supposed to

637
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: be monogamous if the man is equipped to get rid

638
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: of the other man's first you know, right right, I

639
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: think it's just about cleaning. You gotta if you if

640
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: you're a man and you're uncircumcised, you don't want your

641
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: son to be circumcised, right, You're gonna have to teach

642
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: him how to clean that thing. I think that's what

643
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: it balls down to. It gets because I had this

644
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: friend in England and she said that her man was

645
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: uncircumcised and he would want her to and suck his dick,

646
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: but he would have cheesy bits. He would always have

647
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: those cheesy bits like yeah you know, uh uh and

648
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: then I don't know, uh you know, sentiment to crunch dick.

649
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: So how would you describe your dula style? Like what

650
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: are do doula? St house? So I'm putting these questions

651
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: from the bump and they said the extra doula, what

652
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: is her duela style? What's my dat style? I would say,

653
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm a funda calm, very patient, very knowledgeable. Um, I

654
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: don't play. I'm very u passionate about my clients. So

655
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: anytime they tell me anything. I'm like, on go for them,

656
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: making sure that I do whatever I need to do

657
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: to get them the information they need. Um, if they're

658
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: having a problem with the doctor, I'm like, hey, let

659
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: them know. You know, you don't have to be scared.

660
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: I motivate them to like, no, tell them because at

661
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: the end of day, you you're paying them. They're not

662
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: paying you, You're paying them. So I would say my

663
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: style is just fun, all all in and just passionate.

664
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: So it's it's giving black mamas. Yeah, and I'm young,

665
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: so so they probably don't expect it. And I've worked

666
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: with you know a lot of women that's older than me. Um,

667
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: so they I'd probably be on them like a mama. Yeah.

668
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: Is there any certain type of training that you've had

669
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: to have in order to like to be certified for this? Yes. Um.

670
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I went through the National Black Duders Association with Tracy

671
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: on Collin. She um started this organization to train black

672
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: dude and that's who I went with for training. UM

673
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: and I also got set a part with them, no stoke. Um,

674
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: what what advice would you have for a woman who

675
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: wants to become a doula, for a woman that wants

676
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: to become a do it. I would say you have

677
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: to have passion, like you really have to want to

678
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: do this because you want to see black women thrive.

679
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: You want us to be saved, and not because you

680
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: personally had a bad birth experience and you want to

681
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: save the black women or you want to save us

682
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: from not having that experience, because at the end of

683
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the day, having a doula it's so beneficial. But also

684
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: birth is birth, and birth is unpredictable, and there's some

685
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: things that we just cannot control. So you can't go

686
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: in thinking that you're gonna save everybody, and you can't

687
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: go in thinking like, don't be rich, I'm gonna take

688
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: all these people money, because it's not about that either. Um,

689
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: So you definitely really just have to have the passion

690
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: and real goal of why you are doing this, why

691
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: are you doing this work. Hopefully by the time I

692
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: have a baby, I want to have Erica. If I do,

693
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: I know, I want to work with her so bad.

694
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like d m her on Instagram, I'm like, hey,

695
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: I just want to see at your feet, like I

696
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: just want to learn from you whatever. I need that

697
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: type of energy in the room when I have a baby. Yes, Um,

698
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: have you ever had an experience where one of the

699
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: women that you were working with lost the baby? I haven't,

700
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: Thank god, I haven't had any like unsuccessful stories of

701
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: no passing of any Black women and babies, so that

702
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for. I was reading this article on I

703
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all I got this app call medium,

704
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: but I just found it real interesting. So the the

705
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: the tidle of the article was a doula's role in

706
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: a medicalized birth and the danger of glorifying natural birth

707
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: as ideal. And just look at the illustration. You got

708
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: the white doctor and the black woman right, So it's

709
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: almost like they want to deter black women from having

710
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: to at home births and just put our lives in

711
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: their hands at the hospital where we are more likely

712
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: to die. Like I know a couple of people who

713
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: have had home births. I don't know what the statistics are,

714
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: and I'll probably look into it to see, you know,

715
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: are when women have at home births, like has there

716
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: been in these situations where the baby did pass, You

717
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: will see people delivering the babies in the cars and

718
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: all types of ship on the way to the hospital.

719
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: Even just having a baby on your back could cause

720
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: you know, issues during childbirth. What you know, like back

721
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: in the day, people would have babies in the water.

722
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: Just push it straight out, Like why would you be

723
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: laying on your back at this angle trying to push

724
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: something out? Just think about when you um use the bathroom.

725
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: You don't lay on your back bees the bathroom. You

726
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: literally standing up squatting. Same thing when you you're pushing

727
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: out a baby. M hm. That you should if you

728
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: go to the I'm telling you, I never scared. I

729
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: can't wait. It's the That's the thing. We should be

730
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: more scared of going to the hospital these days. Like

731
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: you should feel more safe at home, especially when you

732
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: have the right team, because the hospital they be playing games,

733
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: baby playing games. I just you know, I've had an experience.

734
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: I was pregnant before I end up losing the baby,

735
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: but those controls and I was like nearly six months

736
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: and uh, those contractions was painful as hell. I can't imagine.

737
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: Because I end up having UM. I was scheduled to

738
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: have a D and D is that what it's called.

739
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: That's just where they take the baby out because the

740
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: baby was already deceased inside me. So the night before

741
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: it started happening naturally, and them contractions hurt so bad,

742
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: and I couldn't imagine if that baby was full term,

743
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: what that must have what it would have felt like

744
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: pushing that baby out full term? It was. It was.

745
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: That's why I keep going because I don't know, you know,

746
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: like listen, it's a lot like I just had a birth,

747
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: got one foot in the grave, but I believe it,

748
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: like you really got one ft in the grave. I

749
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: was just had a birth the other day, and due

750
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: to the policies with COVID, I wasn't able to be

751
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: inside the room, so I was in the libby and

752
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: I just heard my mom just screaming. He was just screaming.

753
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: And when I seen her the names say, I'm like,

754
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: I know he was pushing that baby out because I

755
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: could hear it. She was like, yeah, I just like

756
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: I tried, but I just had this dream and I'm like,

757
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: it's okay. It hurts, it hurts, It hurts, it hurts,

758
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: so whatever works. I wish there was like a epper

759
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: doula ship y'all been watching? Uh, how did y'all ever

760
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: watch King Game of Thrones? Because now they have like

761
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: House of Dragons. So it was a line on the

762
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: show just recently. The guy was what I guess it

763
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: would be an equivalent in the Midwife. She was essentially

764
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: saying like, um, like what did she say? Like the

765
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: pregnancy and labor and stuff is like the the battlefield

766
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: for women. And on this particular scene, like they literally

767
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: just cut this baby out of the woman just cut

768
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: the baby, y'all didn't give a funk what was about

769
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: to happen to her afterwards. He just wanted the king

770
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: that are He just wanted the son the ear to

771
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: the They both died too, Yeah, the baby, both of

772
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,479
Speaker 1: them ended up dying. So imagine, like that's that's rough

773
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: to think. That's the type of ship women used to

774
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: go through, And yeah, that's how still go to go

775
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: through in reality. Even no matter how you birth your baby,

776
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: that's all people care about when the baby comes. They

777
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: care about that baby. And that's another thing why it's

778
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: important to have that do LI because why family and

779
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: everybody is on focused on the baby. We are focused

780
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: on you your mental health. How are you feeling after

781
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: going through this battlefield? How are you feeling after pushing

782
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: this baby out or having to be cut open to

783
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: get your baby out, different things like that. So it

784
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: definitely still has thems. My older sister when she had

785
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: my niece, and my niece got a smart mouth now,

786
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: and I know my sister to be like, girl, if

787
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: you knew what I went through to get your motherfucking

788
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: ass here, you shut up. My sister. They she's military,

789
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: so she was in the military hospital, which is even

790
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: like sometimes it can be like a little crazy. And

791
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: there they held her down, They held her arms and

792
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: her legs. There was like the baby's like about to

793
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: die or something. I don't know exactly what the terminology was,

794
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: but they held her arms in her legs and sliced

795
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: her open. No anesthesia, no, nothing, just held her and

796
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: cut her open. Issues, yes, and she just passed out

797
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: from the pain. She said, I just passed out from

798
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: the pain and they pulled the baby out. When you're

799
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: talking about what twenty years ago, yeah, about almost yeah,

800
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: almost twenty years ago, about nineteen years ago. They held

801
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: my sister's arms and legs. There was like hold her down.

802
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: I was like what what what? They just cut her? Yeah.

803
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: That goes to how they think that black women can

804
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: just paying that white women can't. And we even get

805
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: that type of ship from our own men, like white

806
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: women are treated like like so delicately, don't make her

807
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: cry with all this fucking care. But I feel like

808
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: part of it is our problem, our fault, because we

809
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: come in with this the strong woman. Nah, y'all bitches,

810
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: We're not strong, no matter we need something. I'm a

811
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: damsel and fucking yeah, I couldn't imagine that, Like, how

812
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: is that? That's not normal? And I wonder if that

813
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: that whatever happened to, you know, a woman of another

814
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: ethnic group, Like, why would they do that to a

815
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: black woman? Mm hmmm. She said she woke up and

816
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the baby was here, and she was a young She

817
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: would have been a young girl at that time too, right,

818
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: she was, yeah, like in her early twenties. Wow. But

819
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: imagine women giving birth in prison, which oftentimes are black

820
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: women too. I know. Um, I don't know if y'all

821
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: know Angela Stanton, you know a lot of people she

822
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: get a lot of hate because she's a Trump supporter,

823
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: was a Trump supporter, but she's a Republican. But she

824
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: had her baby in prison, and you know, one of

825
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: the things she was a would to get Trump to

826
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: do was, you know, make sure that women who are

827
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: pregnant in prison have the proper medical attention because she

828
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: was strapped down to a to a bead and had

829
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: her baby in jail. That would be something good for

830
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: doulers though. That's what I was just thinking about. Nonprofit.

831
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: That would be a good nonprofit and you will definitely

832
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: get support. You can get some government grand shot to um,

833
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, just to be a duela for the person

834
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: for sure, because you needed sick. Yeah, you need to

835
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: look into that because that would be good. It definitely

836
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: would be good. If it doesn't already exist, somebody needs

837
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: to definitely do that. I wonder if that exists, because

838
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm about to go get my certificate. I'm

839
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: telling you what to do. You let I'm not even

840
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: get my certification and get this Bible once three popping

841
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: right quick, get me some damn government grants to be

842
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: given birth in prison. Yeah, you should do that if

843
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: you're not already doing it. See, you have to be

844
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: like a very patient, for I cannot be. They'd be like, dammy,

845
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: you need to calm the funk down. I'm the one

846
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: having the baby. Why are you so exciting? Yeah, you're

847
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 1: stressing the mama out, you're stressing the mama out. Yeah. Yeah,

848
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: So you gotta you take special people. You gotta be

849
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: a special person for that kind of word. W look

850
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: flight attendants. M Yeah. I have One time I had

851
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: a mom. She was um and this is the mother

852
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: in law. She was like, why would this happen? I'm like, listen, lady,

853
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: calm down, Calm down. I was like, at the end

854
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, y'all in the hospital, I

855
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: can't go and get the hospital policies and I can't

856
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: go but what their doctor is telling them, So you know,

857
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: pop down a little bit. But you, like you said,

858
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: you have to be calm because any of anybody else

859
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: could have been like, oh who you're talking to? Like,

860
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: you're not gonna talk to me like this, you don't

861
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: know my job. But I was like, you know, I understand,

862
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from him, but let me

863
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: tell you my position and what I'm here to do

864
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: and what we're going to do because this is what

865
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: they hired me for in a respectful way. So most

866
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: of your clients are at home births. Um, let's make

867
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: sure of both. So UM, right now, I'm in the

868
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: Augusta area and will be. I've been traveling, so I've

869
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: been in Atlanta, just all little parts of Georgia my

870
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: first two years in business. So they've had hospital births,

871
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: home births, unassisted birds, so just been a mixture of

872
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: all of them. Unassisted birth so it's just you and

873
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: somebody pushing out of bad And that was my first

874
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: birth ever. It was an unassisted birth. I was scared,

875
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: as I was scared as both, but you know, I

876
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: had that energy would need to be done and that's

877
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: what happened. And I've had some more since then. But yep,

878
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: it's just me them and sometimes their partners, and like

879
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: I said, I have to stay in my role, but

880
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: in the event anything was to happen, I would have

881
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: to like coach them on what to do and call

882
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: them not want emergency. I imagine. It's so beautiful though.

883
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: I imagine I have to watch those videos. You'll be

884
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: watching them videos on Instagram and ship. I watched him,

885
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: my best friend you watching them all the time. She

886
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: was obsessed with having she manifested her kids because she

887
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: would have us in her house watching the videos all

888
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: the time, and I'd be in the room. But it's amazing.

889
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. So do you like, oh, sorry,

890
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. I was just about to say,

891
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: like we should stop calling, like you know what men

892
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: be like, Oh man, you're acting pussy like pussy is

893
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: really strong. What are you talking about? Right? So find

894
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: a new word? Right? Did so? I read something here

895
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: about um placenta encapsulation. Do you know what that is?

896
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: What is that? That's something I do? So basically, that's

897
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: where we take the placenta and we um seem it

898
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: with herbs and things like that, with her face like

899
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: that to um, and then we dry it out and

900
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: it turns into this like hard piece of placenta and

901
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: we grind it up into powders and put it into pills,

902
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: into capsules, and we give it to the mom to

903
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: take postparting. And the benefit and that is to help

904
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: with milk supply. UM. It can help with decreased um,

905
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: feeling of postparting depression or baby blues. It helps your

906
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: uterine uterus comes track back to pre pregnancy size, helps

907
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: with iron. So all the things that it was providing

908
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: to your baby in the womb, you're gonna now take

909
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: that and still be able to provide it to them

910
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: by breastfeeding and through um giving it to yourself. Right.

911
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: So in the hospitals, oftentimes they won't give you a

912
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: percenta right. No, you have to advocate for it. You

913
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: have to sign a paper for it. And usually most

914
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: times when they give it back to you, they want

915
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: you to take it out immediately. They don't even want

916
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: anything to do with it after that. So why is that?

917
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: What do they do? What do they do with the placenta?

918
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: They claim they are testing it, but I believe, especially

919
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: with our placenta, they're doing more with it. They're definitely

920
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: doing more with it. They're definitely doing more with it.

921
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: So that's why I always encourage my mom's. Hey, even

922
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: if you do not want to do presentsa encapsulation, take

923
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: your presents to we can figure out there's so many

924
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: different things that you can do with your presents to

925
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: um other than consuming it. But just take your assume

926
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: somebody else is pusting it to Like could I give

927
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: my nigga one of the pills, like one of these?

928
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: Yep you could? And like I also do a tinct shire.

929
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: So that's where I take a piece of the raw organ,

930
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: put it inside like a teacher photto with a hundred

931
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: percent a hundred proof alcohol and it's six for six weeks.

932
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: And I think that they can drain it and to

933
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: start taking that by now, and that can be given

934
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: to other children like their other children if they get sick,

935
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: given to the husband. They can take it all of

936
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: all of the families. That's me m hm. So imagine

937
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: that's why the hospital wants your percent to They probably

938
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: use it in medicine, all these natural things that they

939
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: want to condemn. It's actually good for you, yeah, because

940
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: if you look on Google bills and oh it's not

941
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: safe too for your pistance encapsulation, it is because it's like,

942
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing with it if it's not

943
00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: beneficial in some way? Mm hmm. That's interesting. I definitely

944
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: learned something with that one. Now, all these pregnant women

945
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: number like, are you encapsulating your placanthic? Girl? Can I

946
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: have a piece of gonna keep my skin glowing? Look

947
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: at you? Yes, that's right. It's a bad placent to

948
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: job is such? Is there such thing as bad placenta? Yes?

949
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: So within the hospital they will test it. Even when

950
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: you take your percents at home, they still want to

951
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: test it to see if you have like any infection

952
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, let's say, if like you have

953
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: a fever doing labor and anything like that in an

954
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: affection of rose, or if um something happening where um,

955
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: something was wrong with your plasinsa during pregnancy, They'll be

956
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: able to let us know, so we willn't be able

957
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: to encapsulate it if there is an infection or anything

958
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: like that instide of it. Okay, So you can't do

959
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: that type of testing when you have a home birth,

960
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: all right, that would be it would be suggested. It

961
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: would be suggested home birth midwives they do examine, so

962
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: they will examine it um and do different things, and

963
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: if it looks any type of way, they'll let they'll

964
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: usually let me know. Okay, mm hmm, alright, So I

965
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: think I'm out of questions. You got anything else? Ages, No,

966
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just want way. I want black

967
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: women to be safe, man. I want more Black women

968
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: to get into home birth, just holistic living altogether. Y'all know.

969
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm a whole whole tap as y'all like to call me,

970
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: but I'm probably gonna be around time about a hunted. Okay,

971
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: I just call you home as long as you have

972
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: missed in front bit shi Alright, so, uh, do you

973
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: have any advice for our listeners if they're interested in

974
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: getting to do it? Research, do your re stage, reach

975
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: out and just go for it. Trust yourself, trust that

976
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: you can do whatever it is that you put your

977
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: mind to when it comes to birthday, and know that

978
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: you have options. You got plenty options. That's beautiful. Tell

979
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: tell our listeners where they can find you. You guys

980
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: can find me on Instagram and Facebook at Susan the

981
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Speaker 1: birth Dower, on online ww dot, Susan the birth Dela

982
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Speaker 1: dot com and TikTok Susan the birth Dewer. M hm

983
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Speaker 1: than thank you. On Instagram, A chocolate is smiling. I

984
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Speaker 1: was like, this is y'all went on the show right here. Yeah,

985
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get to Erica, but I do so

986
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm probably calling your ass whatever, nigga shoot the club up. Yeah,

987
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick up my baby daddy right now. Thank

988
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: you so much girl, You guys, you guys have a

989
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