WEBVTT - Ep. 679: Talking Turkey 

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<v Speaker 2>You know what was humiliating for Randall? What? Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a turn the machine on? Phil? Oh, it's been on

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<v Speaker 2>scoot Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get ready for a lot of that this set.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start off for telling me about I'm dying.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that? No? You know what. I can't work up

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<v Speaker 2>any lugs. Even when I work one up, like watches,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>You'll know you get when it starts.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when I work one up, it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drawing it up from my balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's like coming from deep down, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want the suits at meat Eater to know.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're all out at work. Steve wasn't contagious, like

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<v Speaker 3>we got sick somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen man, it's not my fault. I told everybody I'm sick.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like you got you know, I got hemmed over here.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think if we get sick, it'll be your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough ship, dude, listen, I'm pulling it. I'm pulling that

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<v Speaker 1>flam up for my nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>But it hangs up, It hangs up around my stern.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Getting old.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have the strength you Yeah, so yeah, the

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<v Speaker 5>looky bucket, there's nothing that if you gave me a

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<v Speaker 5>looky bucket, it's a dry bucket.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil, Do you want to start this sober? We're good?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're good.

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<v Speaker 3>They do have met Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was to say, what's humiliating for Randall's Randall, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as he's like a gun nut and everything, what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gun you're making right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>It's a I'm converting a H K U s C

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<v Speaker 6>to U M P H.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah means well, I hope it's I'm gonna get out

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<v Speaker 2>in front of this. It's not a flintlock.

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<v Speaker 1>What was humiliating for Randall's Randall trying to shoot a

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<v Speaker 1>flint lock? You can't get used to He can't get

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<v Speaker 1>used to.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact you got wait a second, most can't.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I mean I if you're gonna shoot a

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<v Speaker 6>flintlock for the first time, I highly recommend you do

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<v Speaker 6>it while being filmed by two people with Steve looking

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<v Speaker 6>over your shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>It just makes it for a really nice experience.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard for.

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<v Speaker 2>People to get over the little explosion in their face.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I uh no, we're going.

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<v Speaker 7>I need you to fill out the frame because right

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<v Speaker 7>now Seth and called lonely over.

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<v Speaker 3>There are you saying? Renal wouldn't have made it as

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<v Speaker 3>a mountain man?

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, you've been fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean I could see leaving that day other

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<v Speaker 6>than being totally humiliated. I could see how it would

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<v Speaker 6>be interesting to like get used to that and sort

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<v Speaker 6>of train that into your brain. Like if I if

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<v Speaker 6>I had access to one and a little bit of time,

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<v Speaker 6>it'd be fun to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get better at it. But yeah, it's it threw me

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<v Speaker 2>for a loop.

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<v Speaker 8>It's key to have your system dialed. Where as you

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<v Speaker 8>pull the trigger, the things going off. Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 8>want to hang fire.

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<v Speaker 6>The first two shots. I didn't even need to look

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<v Speaker 6>at the target. I said this rifle was pointing in

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<v Speaker 6>a completely different direction by the time it went off.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got some stuff to share. You guys want

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<v Speaker 2>to try something interesting? Sure, there's a So there's these

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<v Speaker 2>dudes I know I've bought.

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<v Speaker 1>There's these dudes I know up at uh they live

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<v Speaker 1>there in Cake, Alaska, and they make.

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<v Speaker 2>You're here sage brush dry you know that dry bag.

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<v Speaker 2>I have sage brush dry dry.

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<v Speaker 1>Bag, like a real They make a really nice rubber

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<v Speaker 1>eyes like it's like a submersible dry bag, like a

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<v Speaker 1>dry bag dry bag. Anyways, they sent me. I've bought

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<v Speaker 1>bags from them and they sent me. That's black seaweed

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<v Speaker 1>they make.

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<v Speaker 8>M M.

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<v Speaker 2>Try that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is saka salmon they make and dry bag.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you just eat it, yeah, right out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. It's interesting. I'm gonna get into that. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what we were doing that that I hadn't done

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<v Speaker 2>before I was fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cran would get a kick out of this because

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of Chinese, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Cooking up the.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like taking the kelp, just grab kelp out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean. Were you there when we were doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Seth salty, but just taking kelp out of the ocean

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<v Speaker 1>cutting it like noodles.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't there. I don't think it's the easiest

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the world. Dude. You take kelp out of

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<v Speaker 2>the blue part. No, no, the leaves, just you find

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<v Speaker 2>them whatever floating around.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids arise, dragging and boating and them I was

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<v Speaker 1>yelling at them about it. Just cut it into noodles

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<v Speaker 1>and just steam them and put butter and salt on

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<v Speaker 1>a damn.

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<v Speaker 2>That is good man. It's like you don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>bring any kind of vegetables up there. Do you like

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<v Speaker 2>that seaweed? I don't, guys, I think it's good, delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying this with the most love I can. I

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<v Speaker 7>can muster.

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<v Speaker 3>You need.

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<v Speaker 7>Even when you think you're close to the mic, you're

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<v Speaker 7>never close enough to the micro. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Wow, I'm getting close and I'm chewing my.

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<v Speaker 2>I can feel love. It's like from a producer. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean like producer or producer. You know, it's a real hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's got a knife. Probably this stuff out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, oh, don't use that.

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<v Speaker 1>God knows where it's so care the good folks up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's good, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 9>It's delicious and it's like kind of it's purple.

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<v Speaker 2>See when I retire, I used to think that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it Chili.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Here.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not disgust.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not disgusting, but it's like ice. Think.

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<v Speaker 1>When I retire and move up to my shack, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all I need is like butter and gas

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<v Speaker 1>and vegetables.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't even need vegetables, gas and butter. It

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<v Speaker 2>tastes like fat, like like a raw fat. Look at

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<v Speaker 2>what Brody's making, a salt.

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<v Speaker 9>Sea flavor that has like a little bit of like

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<v Speaker 9>bacon fat kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Corey, can you come into a mic here and tell

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<v Speaker 2>everybody what's going on now with what your problem is?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your problem?

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<v Speaker 3>Corey?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I don't think I have a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You do.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta have it be that now the Northern the

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<v Speaker 1>Northern people get beat by the Southern people at turkey calling.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh well, there's a lot more enthusiasm coming out of

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<v Speaker 10>the South, I'll tell you that much. We got a

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<v Speaker 10>Turkey calling contest coming and it's my job to coordinate

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<v Speaker 10>all these videos for this contest. And all three of

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<v Speaker 10>our Southern participants they were done weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago because they get because they get excited about this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's already spring. Well, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a good point too. Yeah, it's snowing

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<v Speaker 2>out here right now.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you could be ice fishing if you risking it,

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<v Speaker 10>or skiing, but we're not turkey hunting yet.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, and then how are you going to film

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<v Speaker 1>this contest on them?

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<v Speaker 2>On your phone? Are you just using Phil's camera here?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's a completely pointless How long look for turkeys?

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<v Speaker 6>Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>How long can mine be? I mean, just three rounds?

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<v Speaker 10>Make them just fifteen seconds?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, this is a way long. I'm only doing

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<v Speaker 2>one round, but you.

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<v Speaker 6>Got to do a little intro like here's round.

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<v Speaker 2>One, Okay, round two? That's not like that, though, I

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<v Speaker 2>can cut it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Cory's just trying to do his job over here,

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<v Speaker 1>because here here's my complain about the annual turkey calling contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Is my complain about the turkey calling contest? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>just like it's like it's set up for Southerners to win?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you have a contest who can talk the most?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Abe Lincoln? There's something about I know, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about that, yo, that like lends itself.

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<v Speaker 2>To turkey calling, spot and stalking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like like there's like the Southerners are always super

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<v Speaker 1>good at turkey calling, and then you gotta have them

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<v Speaker 1>on the northerner guys to play against him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna win the right twang.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe we should have an element like they got.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just there's so much more. I mean, like life

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<v Speaker 1>in the North is just it's more complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>There's more going on, and you can't just sit back

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<v Speaker 2>and luguriate in calling turkeys.

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<v Speaker 3>A Southerners are born with a call in their mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't have to worry about any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>bad weather, you know what I mean, Like here, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be you gotta be on your game, man, ice.

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<v Speaker 6>Cold, hurricanes, tornadoes.

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<v Speaker 7>That doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, they call turkeys right through those hurricanes. They

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<v Speaker 1>just sit on their porch like calling turkeys. And we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go out on your porch a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the times a.

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<v Speaker 3>Year here dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dangerous. You freeze to death. A barrel get you.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's down there, nothing to do, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about this Cory. So here's round one and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this. I want to set the mood near.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be playing turkey videos in your computer right, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to do another thing.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the best movies ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm playing Civil War, you know, to set the North

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<v Speaker 2>South thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what I was gonna do because I can't beat

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<v Speaker 1>those guys do all their crazy sounds. But here's here's

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<v Speaker 1>I was sticking this morning. I was sitting there thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and so I started listening to like, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we compare.

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<v Speaker 2>To what turkey sound like? Ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Watch, here's a real turkey. You guys know Jay Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>Jase got outdoors. Okay, here, Jay Scott, here's a real turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see the turkey in here. Okay, raspy round one. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a real turkey. Here's a yankee. Here's a real

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<v Speaker 1>turkey Yankee.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if that's not phenomenal turkey calling, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what is. Are you ready? Yep? Okay's going right now,

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<v Speaker 2>good man.

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<v Speaker 4>Diaphragm select is really important. So you want to get

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<v Speaker 4>the one that has the least amount of coffee cup

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<v Speaker 4>residue and seeds and stuff, and you gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Suck where's that that pack of diaphans?

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<v Speaker 4>I've used all three of them at once.

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<v Speaker 2>He just stacks them in there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a gobble.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? Are you going right now, Seth? No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not part of it. You're not part of it. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>probably win. He should be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He might beat the Southerners, not me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, fine with that, Yeah, I need But did you

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<v Speaker 2>really use all those?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's he's he's healthy. I'd be worried about the

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<v Speaker 6>inverse of that transaction.

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<v Speaker 2>But shot, what do you mean, what's your best shot? Gobble?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else down south is doing? Oh I didn't, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do your blue jay crow call?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had it with me. If I had

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<v Speaker 2>it with me, Well, no, no, no, no, that's not my

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<v Speaker 2>that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>My blue jay call. I don't have it with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that that's what I needed.

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<v Speaker 3>He can't see. Let's cough.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be good of you got a car door

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<v Speaker 4>you could slam, you should.

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<v Speaker 8>Cough the parking lot. What's that she got in the

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<v Speaker 8>parking lot and slammed the car door. Or we'll go

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<v Speaker 8>like this, or just going.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, we'll try this other that might make him goble.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, try how Oh like, no, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that? Are rolling?

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<v Speaker 3>This is so clear? Make clear? And a loogie might make.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be uh there you go? Hm where are we now?

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<v Speaker 2>You've got oh, I can't do a gobble? Hold on?

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<v Speaker 2>That was great? Yeah as Robert, I like holl Robert

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<v Speaker 2>Abernathey does he goes break like? Hold on you're gonna?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that good? Huh?

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<v Speaker 9>Whoa?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>You do one? So just wow, Brandon, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>hate turkeys? Man? I don't hate him, I just uh,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on you hate them? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, I think again.

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<v Speaker 7>Please, I'd like to ask everyone to direct their attention

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<v Speaker 7>to the television if if you would mind just for

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<v Speaker 7>a second year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there he is the real deal.

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<v Speaker 9>The face says it all. So Corey filmed. This is

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<v Speaker 9>from Meat Eater Radio Live a couple of months ago

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<v Speaker 9>when Connor Smith, who works at our store, who's Alissa

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<v Speaker 9>Smith's son, is well, brought in his pet turkey broke

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<v Speaker 9>in and you had a comment about him. You were like,

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<v Speaker 9>he's got hollow bones, He's nothing like me.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>For the audio listeners, ran that was a clip from

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<v Speaker 7>an old Radio Light episode when we brought in the

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<v Speaker 7>turkey and Randall was staring into its eyes like he

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<v Speaker 7>was he was looking at the devil himself.

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<v Speaker 6>We just don't have anything in common.

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<v Speaker 2>Why, yeah, why do you feel that you won't hunt turkeys? Randall?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'd love to hunt turkeys. Oh okay, Uh, how

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<v Speaker 1>have you not gotten around to it? Because you're a

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<v Speaker 1>spring bear hunter.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I like to save up my time for spring

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<v Speaker 6>bear and uh yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just never really figured it out.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever see a turkey walking around when you're spring

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<v Speaker 3>bear hunting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 6>And I've run after him. I've chased I've traced a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of turkeys up a hill when they cross the road,

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<v Speaker 6>but trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot at him.

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<v Speaker 6>The idea, that's general idea both him. Yeah, No, I

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<v Speaker 6>just haven't haven't taken that step yet. Okay, maybe if

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<v Speaker 6>you got me out there so you'd go, you would go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'd love to.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd love to have a little turkey hunt. Put a

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<v Speaker 6>turkey in the freezer. I like eating cows turkeys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's about It's the greatest thing in the world. Man.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm eager to eager to feel that joy for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, but he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Never want to hunt bears again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I found.

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<v Speaker 1>I found that over the years, over the years, my

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<v Speaker 1>spring bear enthusiasms declined.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh in favorite turkeys, I could see that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the thing about turkey hunting you can picture too,

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<v Speaker 1>is you can picture that you'd be a hunting turkey's like.

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<v Speaker 2>As an old ass man. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling my wife. I was like, after we retire.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, listen, I'll make a deal with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll spend half the time, half the time doing just

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to do, half the time doing just

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to do, fifty to fifty split and

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<v Speaker 1>when we're visiting our kids, that won't count against either

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<v Speaker 1>of our time.

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<v Speaker 2>And she still won't accept the deal. How does she

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<v Speaker 2>want to split it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she knows that my time is turkey hunting. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm not taking that deal. I'm like, why in

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<v Speaker 1>the world will someone not take that deal? What's a

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<v Speaker 1>better deal than that? Yeah, like a picture that half

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<v Speaker 1>the time you can do whatever you want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't say.

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<v Speaker 6>Shit, I'd take that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, oh, yeah, that sounds fun. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>i'd say, just what do you think a great time?

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<v Speaker 6>What would you be doing on her on her days?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, probably a variety of things, variety of things.

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<v Speaker 1>She won't take it because I want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>camper and we're going to live in the camper and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to start in March in Florida, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna every year, we're gonna head north and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>swing to the northeast, we'll swing west, we'll swing whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll just be like on repeat every year. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to laundromats and do our clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>Eat turkey every night, eat turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go to like internet cafes and email our kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how we're gonna spend our.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll have the deep fat friar on a trailer behind.

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<v Speaker 2>It up south. Your headed out turkey hunting. Yeah, Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>heading to Florida. Tell me about where about that?

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<v Speaker 8>So we're going to a guys, we're having some private

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<v Speaker 8>down there. We're going to a guy that he he

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<v Speaker 8>has bought artwork for my wife Kelsey in the past,

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<v Speaker 8>and he's been inviting us to go down there and

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<v Speaker 8>on turkeys for like the last few years and this year,

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<v Speaker 8>we decided to go, you know, take them up on

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<v Speaker 8>the offer, but kind of in some brainstorm into trying

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<v Speaker 8>to collect some assets around this new Turkey best first,

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<v Speaker 8>like decided to film the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can let your wife have first shot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I always do.

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<v Speaker 3>Are south of the Ossio line north.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I was wrong about. It's pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like I used to somehow have in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I've misled people on this is a

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<v Speaker 1>I used to goes like the north end of Oakachobee south,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's everything except the Panhandle and those counties

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<v Speaker 1>that are up against Georgia and Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I thought it was like the southern half

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<v Speaker 3>of No.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it's like you go like one or two counties

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<v Speaker 1>deep out of the panhandles easterns and then you go

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<v Speaker 1>like one or two counties down deep out of George

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<v Speaker 1>and Alabama and it's all Ossiola's south of Gainesville. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that might be a good way of putting it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a perfect line. But yeah, basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like once you're down in the peninsula, it's Osciola turkeys

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<v Speaker 1>at the.

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<v Speaker 2>End of the show. So we're doing the We're doing

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan's Peace.

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<v Speaker 9>Krinn, Yeah, we are. It's out on this feed Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 9>March twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's not just tacked down to this nope. Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jordan Sillers, who joins us now and then on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast here and writes for the website, He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a tomorrow I guess if you're listening on the day

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<v Speaker 1>this comes out tomorrow, Jordan has this crazy story.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been reporting on.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be like a special drop podcast episode about a

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<v Speaker 1>uh true crime, Yeah, about a murder or not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a wild story a turkey hunter in Virginia. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty year old cold case turkey hunter in Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the back at daybreak turkey hunting. And you wonder, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people could have been in the woods that day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to give too much away, but was

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<v Speaker 3>he shot with a shotgun?

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, shot with a rifle. But you can hunt rifles.

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<v Speaker 1>You could hunt turkeys with a rifle.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>His shot in the back lodged into his heart, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the bullet was lodged into his heart. But

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<v Speaker 1>his face mask was lifted up. H yeah, So did

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<v Speaker 1>he lift it up? Did someone lift it up? Did

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<v Speaker 1>someone walk over? And you get into like, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>many people could have been in the woods that day?

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<v Speaker 1>How could you not find who was in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>that day?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Like a small ass pool of people. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying? In this little Turkey hunting area,

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<v Speaker 2>they've never made an arrest. Hmm.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's real, real interesting. Jordan didn't some great work

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<v Speaker 9>on it, lots of interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gotta be. I know you haven't listened to it yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's got to be. It's gotta be that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a he was messing with as decoy. He was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there with decoys. He's sitting there dead on a

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<v Speaker 1>tree as decoys.

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<v Speaker 2>Are out in front of him. Hmm. A cigarette on.

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<v Speaker 4>The ground, But it wasn't the No one collected the

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<v Speaker 4>cigarette and it was Why don't you go ahead and

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<v Speaker 4>give Jordan's podcast?

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<v Speaker 6>Let us know what you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Easy to get hold of, love to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that what I'm saying is going

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<v Speaker 1>to make people not go listen. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>titillating over here.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm hooked.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's like, are you like, well not,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even gonna bother listening now.

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, I need to find all the I need

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<v Speaker 6>to know all the details.

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<v Speaker 4>This day and age. It's just like you go, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>how many cell phones were in this area right now?

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna start there.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd probably be a great place to start.

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<v Speaker 4>Right yeah, call on X be like, how many folks

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<v Speaker 4>were right here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? There was.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this long ago because we were actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna when we started doing the Close Calls series. We

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<v Speaker 1>tried to track this guy down, but the we tried

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<v Speaker 1>to track down a victim of an accidental shooting in

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<v Speaker 1>a hunting incident, but he had died of cancer, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he almost died on the mountain one time hunting.

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<v Speaker 2>But this guy was hunting an Arizona for black bears.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the story now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's stocking a black bear with his bow and

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<v Speaker 1>he's right above the black bear, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>someone from across the canyon shoots at the black bear

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<v Speaker 1>with a rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's either weapon season.

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<v Speaker 1>He's stalking it with a bow and someone across the

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<v Speaker 1>canyon shoots at the bear. The shot misses the bear

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<v Speaker 1>and spooks the bear, and the bear spooks.

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<v Speaker 2>Right up through him, right up past him.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy shoots at it again and hits the dude

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<v Speaker 1>in the gut. Jesus bear runs off. The guy lays

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<v Speaker 1>there and the shooter never comes over. He gets up

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<v Speaker 1>to the top of the mountain, makes a call, starts

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<v Speaker 1>trying to drive down, passes out, but they find him

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<v Speaker 1>and save him. The bullet had mostly got absorbed like that,

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<v Speaker 1>got absorbed by his belt buckle, but last rated. His

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<v Speaker 1>insides all up, but he lives. So they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find out who did it. And what they start doing

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<v Speaker 1>is they the investigator send out surveys to people that

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<v Speaker 1>had bear tags in that unit, where'd you hunt?

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>What days did you hunt?

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And then did a follow up survey, and eventually they

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<v Speaker 1>had like, oh, this guy was hunting bears that day

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>in this area and he was out of state, and

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>they sent investigators to the guy's house and when they

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>explained him what happened, they, I guess, according to the

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>story I heard, they knew he was innocent because when

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>they explained him what happened, he vomited like he was

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<v Speaker 1>that upset about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, had Archie Hunter is all camoed up and he

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<v Speaker 3>just never saw him or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems the scenes weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to do a thing about it, But like I said,

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the primary guy had passed away young, like died young.

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<v Speaker 4>So kids, go listen to Jordan's thing, follow up on.

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<v Speaker 6>Your shots and wear orange.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, don't just take pokes a stuff and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't look like I hit it. Walk over there, look

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<v Speaker 4>for blood. Follow up and if it seems like too

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.479
<v Speaker 4>much of a pain in the ass, chances are you're

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 4>shooting too far.

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 2>And if you get over there and there's a dead

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 2>person laying there, make a.

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<v Speaker 4>Call, make a call.

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<v Speaker 2>Call nine one. Yeah, that's what I think. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>When you guys listen, you'll know what to think. Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>I question this decision. Maybe Quinny can shed light on it.

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<v Speaker 2>He he redacts a lot of names.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is he redacting all the names? Did that come

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<v Speaker 1>at the recommendation of legal counsel.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not sure I could check with him. I don't know.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 9>You mean, like other names of people who are investigated.

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Like the of the characters kind of surrounding the incident,

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>he redacts their names.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't go into that with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe because it's not being solved.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, could be.

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<v Speaker 9>Sorry, I'm not being very helpful.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>No you're not. What's it called what will it be called?

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 9>Called blood trails? Yeah, it's called blood trails.

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.479
<v Speaker 2>Blood trails. So check that out. Twenty year old turkey

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 2>hunting cold case, which Giles seems like could be real solvable.

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and it's just question mark.

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 4>Well I don't want it until our listeners here out. Yes, yeah,

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 4>then one of you may know exactly who it is.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Check this out the first time.

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>So this year I put a thing on Instagram where

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>some guys I know, some houndsmen I know who are

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>commercial fishermen and Michigan's Upper Peninsula, but in the wintertime

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they like to chase bobcats with dogs and this body

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>mind sends me a video from Mackinac County in Michigan's

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<v Speaker 1>Upper Peninsula of a lion, a mountain lion in a

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>try in Michigan. After that, the dn R Department Natural Resources.

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<v Speaker 1>They went out and verified like they wanted to see

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>where it was and what happened, and they went out

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and verified it right that it was legit, legit location tracks,

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>everything made sense, and there's a lion there. And this

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>is something that people have long been saying that there

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>are lions in the up like how people are saying

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>there's lions all over the place.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Longest time, twenty years ago, you had guys way outside

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of mountain lion territory, way outside of cougar territory would

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I saw a mountain lion.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was always the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, no, you didn't you saw an escape pet

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>right like this idea, that's just like escape mountain lion

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>pets running all over the place. You never see like

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>actual pet mountain lions, but somehow.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 2>There are many.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Like you never like at your he's like, here's my

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>pet mountain line, But somehow there are hundreds of escape

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>pets even though no one has like the actual pet

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>mountain lion. Like there's a lot of dogs running around

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the woods. There's a lot of dogs in people's houses,

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<v Speaker 1>So it all makes sense.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 6>Mountain you gotta just be better at escaping.

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>You got pet dogs and then you got feral dogs.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>But somehow it's just all faral lions when there's no

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>pet lions, but they're all escape pets. Long story short,

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>first confirmation in one hundred years in the up in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Two mountain lion kittens in a hundred years verified.

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<v Speaker 9>Verified, but they haven't been seen. Yeah, verified?

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 4>But then what was it they haven't yet been hit

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<v Speaker 4>by a car?

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, is.

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 3>That the video of them on little ones on the

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 3>side of the road.

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, it's it's like it's unbelievable.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>So probably like a while ago, one got killed in Connecticut,

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>one showed up in Menace, and a lot of times

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>this is lions coming out of lions coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Hills, coming out of western Nebraska.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And if you look at it, if you go get.

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Yourself a map, you can see how that sucker, how

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>they're going. You could picture how they're going because they're

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>showing up at Michigan's Upper Peninsula. So they're going like

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>from the Black Hills across ended Wiscon northern Wisconsin and

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>then traveling. And this one that I had the video

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>of was in the eastern up, so traveling across the

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>top of the up probably like flirting up with Ontario, whatever,

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>going across, and it would always be the story is

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>like juvenile males will strike out and colonize new territory

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>or they'll want their own territory, and so they'll go

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and presumably they go off in these weird ass places

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and never find a mate, and.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Then they kind of have like they're like a genetic

0:31:58.720 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>dead end.

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Right, So when you find these way out there lions

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that are way out of territory, there's this thing that like, oh,

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it's probably an escape pet. And then if it's not that, like, oh,

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it's some crazy juvenile male that wandered way outside of

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>its range, but obviously a female went And then you

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta think and that low density, how like how phenomenal

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>must they be at finding each other?

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that like I mean that female might have been

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>impregnated in Michigan.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like she.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't, Like no, I'm sure I would imagine, Yeah, But

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>then like, regardless of how low density, like, how do

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>they find each other?

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, I mean it's like you can get dropped

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>off in the biggest wilderness ever, right, and be like, oh,

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 4>here's a good way to go find game, and you

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 4>strike out on that trail and you can find a

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 4>boot track of somebody else who did the same thing, Right,

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 4>because it's just like how predators move.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 2>You get about the ridge side like ship. Yeah, a

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>cigarette button, a couple of thirty.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 4>Six anybody else think of this.

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Right where I was, right where I was gonna walk. Yeah, Yeah,

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible to think about. But now they're there, I

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>bet there's a lot of guys that are pissed. There's

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys that are pissed because you already.

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Have extreme load deer densities.

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, lower deer densities, got a lot of wolf problems.

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<v Speaker 3>How would they like, how would they be classified? Like

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 3>if they if a breeding population like gets going in Michigan,

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 3>how are they going to classify.

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. I don't know what they e

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 2>condom as.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just be a non non game species right now.

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 4>But I'm sure they did try to put some sort

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 4>of protect protection on them or or not right, or

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 4>they make the decision that this is just not something

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 4>we're going to deal with.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because man, I don't think you look up try

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>someone tried to find it.

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing you can't just shoot a line in Michigan

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:11.959
<v Speaker 4>I probably under the self defense and defensive property rule,

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 4>you could, Oh, if it was messing up or messing

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 4>up your killing your chicken.

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean like if you were out running

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>bobcasts and you treat a lion, my guess is you

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>can't shoot it because how are you looking up what

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the season is? Well, if it's not listed as anything,

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>does that mean we'll find out?

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Because if right? Because like State of Wyoming, like they

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 4>have a they have game species, and then they have

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 4>vermints that can shot year round without restrictions.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 3>They classify they're classified as an endangered species. Shooting them.

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 3>That's probably like a state endangered.

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 9>Species, not endangered mammals in Michigan, meaning it's illegal to

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 9>hunt or harass them, which includes trying to locate their den.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>My man aways had a good story. Uh you know

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>what a fallow deer is. So my dad had a

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>spot he was hunting. This was an Illinois. He had

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a spot he was hunting, and there was a big.

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Arboretum near there, and they had all these like fallow

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>deer sort of as a decoratione on this arbretomy.

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 9>Aren't those from overseas.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>They're a Eurasian deer like kind of white and some

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of this some of the fallow deer had gotten off

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the arboretum and we're just running around, and so my

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>dad was calling be like can I shoot one of

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>these deer or not? And at the time, like what

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>they had Illinois had like a wild deer.

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>They had a deer. So even in your in your

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>rags didn't say like white tailed deer, because like, you

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>know what, what are you not trying to draw this?

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>It was just a deer. And so he called and

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the best answer they would give him is like it

0:35:55.320 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>says a deer if it's a deer. So he always

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>had this picture of as I should find. He had

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>this great grip and grand where he's got his re

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 2>curve and he's got a fallow deer. It was you

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 2>know what he used to hunt?

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 9>Man?

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>It was funny is and it's a good idea. He

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>used to have a spot he'd hunt where he'd get

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 1>on a highway and at some point he'd pulled off

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>at a rest area and got the walking around the

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>rest area and saw a bunch of deer Signsuse it

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>was like he showed.

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Me it was not too far from where I grew up.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a rest area and it's all just like State

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Land area on the highway and then there was cornfields

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>up above there, and he would get off at the

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>rest area and park kind of like he was at

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the rest area, wait till the coast was clear, and

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>then slip up in the woods instead of tree stand

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>at the rest area and then get back on the

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>highway and go down to the next exit.

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>And sneaky little spot, sneak.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I see a lot of rest areas, and I wonder

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>about that. Okay, Seth, you're going hunting.

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 2>We're talking about that. Randall hates turkeys. Talk about that

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 2>tick prevention. I got it. My program is dialed? Wrote

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 2>who wrote?

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 4>I threw that in there?

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you do? You do you feel your program

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>is dialed?

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 4>No, not at all. It's something I don't think about.

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 4>And tell him on the ground and then I'm like,

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 4>oh man, this is I'm gonna be creeping and crawling.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 4>But I'm all so I don't Yeah, I don't know

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 4>all the normal things. Don't like deep. I'm always like, oh,

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna get that permethron stuff and that stuff works.

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I take the heavy chemical approach, and I'll tell you.

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you a little bit about my background.

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 9>Don't Inhale that when you breathe it all I mean,

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 9>when you spray it all over your Let.

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Me tell you though, I had okay, when my boy

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 1>was three, talk about all the time. When my boy

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>was three, he had lime disease, developed Bell's palsy, so

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>he developed the facial paralysis. A lot of had a

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of problems. I had lime disease and had to

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>go through the intravenous antibiotic treatment where they put the

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>pick line in your heart and a fucking hose coming

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>out of your arm shooting those cylinders. All that shitting

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:18.479
<v Speaker 1>there every day had to be where couldn't ride my bike.

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.959
<v Speaker 1>Had drawn a mountain goat tag and couldn't even hunt

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the tag. I couldn't go down steps without holding the

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>handrail driving down the road.

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 2>It messes with your joints so bad.

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't rest on the windowsill, I couldn't rest on

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the center console.

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Because it was like just too like excruciating. Okay, So.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>All that what I'm setting up there is like the

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>risk of using some chemical stuff isn't as real to

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>me as is the risk of getting tickborne pathogenstable.

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 4>It's not, oddly enough, It's the way I take care

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 4>of things and like a big old, deep filled canister

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 4>that erodes through everything once deployed. Like that's my problem

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 4>is like it rattles around in the back of the truck. Eventually,

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 4>like the cap goes off and it sprays all over everything,

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 4>and then you got holes in clothing or a whole

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 4>spool of fishing lines. I've had tackle boxes over the

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 4>years that have turned into measure.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I had it warped. I had one open up on

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>a caribou hunt, and I had one open up on

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>my phone and actually warped my phone case, like the

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>phone case warped.

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 3>So you're not buying the permethrone.

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't gotten to my formula yet.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh you're going double formula.

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I do, and it takes. It takes. It takes discipline.

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 4>You do take Wood's off.

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I do permethrine on my clothes, and I do it

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like you're supposed to do it. I do it ahead

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>of time, like you you know, Like I said, it

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.479
<v Speaker 1>takes discipline, do it ahead of time and let it dry. Okay,

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not wearing a shit wet and that's how

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>they recommend it. So I do all my clothes and permethrone.

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Then every morning. This is the painful part. This is

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the part you don't want to do because it's just

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it's annoying. Every morning, I do my ankles and deep,

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I do my waistline because of chigger to hate chiggers.

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I do my waistline and deep on on your skin,

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>on my skin.

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 4>WHOA, all right?

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I do deep. I plaster my waistline.

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I plaster my ankles and deep, and I got permethrone

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>on my clothes. And I'm telling you and I am

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a tick chigger magnet. I have shut that ship down. Wow,

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>shut it down.

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, hot tip.

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Me and Seth did a bunch of permethrone one time.

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 2>We were watching ticks climb on us and Music Festival.

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 3>When when Sam and I were in Pennsylvania last fall

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 3>woodcock hunting like our buddy's dog had hundreds of deer

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 3>ticks on it like every day, and we were using

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I was using permethrone and it works.

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 8>That's that's an area where when they do tick studies

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.240
<v Speaker 8>they typically come back positive.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh yeah. When I got it, I got it.

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Hudson Valley and I think at the time they were

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>saying that three quarters of all ticks had the pathogen

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>they found.

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 3>I just read they found uh tick in Montana that

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 3>they believe headlines.

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I really don't what kind of tick I had had

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>to be a deer tick.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 4>I'll have to stuff they give dogs that always creeps

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 4>me out. Dogs seem to be totally fine, but the

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 4>tick yeah, goes up, bites into the dog and then

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 4>dies and drops off the dog to me and Seth's close,

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, what's the human version of that?

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I've thought about that. I mean, if someone could

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 6>invent that from mosquitoes?

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Rich Man. Yeah, chili, how you doing? You're just sitting

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>down there? Yeah, I'm just yeah. People are talking. Are

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 2>you gonna turn your chili? I plan on it. Yeah.

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 11>I want to go back home, back to the hills

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 11>and try to get a tagger. I think my brother

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 11>applied it, so if he gets one, I'll probably go

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 11>back with him.

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 2>That's where I'd like to go.

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 4>What what what's your program? Not not for ticks, but

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 4>just for those flowing locks you're developing. Is is it

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 4>like a standalone conditioner shampoo.

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Made and tail baby horse shampoo? Yeah?

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you don't even need water with that?

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Well you don't?

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 4>You just throw it on there, murder on outside.

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Let it dry.

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>He's the only guy if I if you had to

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:29.879
<v Speaker 1>get a permit to have long hair, He's the only

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>bad issue the permit.

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I've told a few people this story.

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.919
<v Speaker 11>I cut my hair, I think once since working here,

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 11>and I cut it like I trimmed up the mustache,

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 11>cut the hairy real short.

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>And uh.

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 11>I went to the store and Steve was sitting on

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 11>the couch in the store and he's working on his laptop,

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 11>and he just slowly turns to me, looks at me

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 11>and goes, it's a bad move, dude.

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Okay, I guess I've never come to.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Harry Jili needs to look free. So that's oh.

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was gonna bring our ticks when we

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>were watching I don't know if you remember this, Seth,

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>me and Seth are sitting watching ticks crawling our clothes

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and fall off like they'd pass out.

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then we're sitting there.

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Here comes to have Alina. Do you remember this? Here

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>comes to have Alina walking along. Guess what the have

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Aalena's feeding on I'm not kidding you, man, he is

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:25.879
<v Speaker 1>feeding on turkey shit.

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Just one ship one shit after the other.

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Just we're just sitting there, real store.

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>He just comes along and every time he'd find one

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>of the little turkey ship, he'd stop and pick it up.

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>And he was like targeting turkey ships.

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Smacking his cheeks together.

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I have a video of it. It's pretty smacking his

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 2>lips eating turkey shit.

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:48.479
<v Speaker 9>La. That was in Texas. You guys are going back

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 9>we are week or week after right?

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Who knows about the South Carolina turkey deal? What

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:55.399
<v Speaker 2>is this? Now?

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 4>I talked with some folks on this one last week,

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 4>actual you know, biologists in that state.

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 2>No, man, I'm looking now. I didn't know about this.

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:17.959
<v Speaker 4>Well, but here here's the weird thing. Okay, So this

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 4>would change the regulations or it already has changed the

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 4>regulations for the twenty twenty five season to where it

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 4>would no longer be legal to shoot Jake's immature Tom's.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>It's cut back on my turkey harvest.

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 4>So that puts the onus on the hunter to identify

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 4>a wow Tom that has a beard longer than six

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 4>inches and a full tail fan.

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 3>So it's the combination, right, because a lot of full

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 3>on gobblers don't have a six inch beard.

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, and so you're like, well, why would you

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 4>take that opportunity away from people? Which was my question.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 4>But and this is the frustrating part is it's like

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 4>because your brain kind of goes to like, well, is

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 4>it like a trophy thing, like trying to make make

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 4>bigger birds, which makes no sense in like the.

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Longbeards, it is the time of the year.

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 4>They're not changing the season of their turkey hunt. What

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to do by adding this regulation is to

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 4>provide more time for those birds to breed. Hmmm, who

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 4>to breed for the for By making people select for

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 4>the toms and pass up these other birds, they're allowing

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 4>more time for breeding, which to which I responded was like, well,

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 4>why don't you just adjust the whole season dates?

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I remember Abernathy talking about this, or there's in

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina him talking about that this this push pull

0:45:55.680 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 1>between start and turkey season so early, right, and guys

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 1>thinking that they're starting it too early, and the the

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.959
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of these lot of turkey bio just like, dude,

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:11.959
<v Speaker 1>hunt turkeys as long as you want, don't start early. Yeah,

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and some state like if you steal a day, steal

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>a day up front, give them two days.

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:19.280
<v Speaker 3>On the other end, right, plenty of estates are doing

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 3>that well.

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 4>Idaho, Montana. The folks have talked to you. They're like,

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 4>there's no essentially no breeding going on. By the time

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 4>turkey season has started in Idaho or Montana, like it's

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 4>the bulk of the bell curve of the breeding is

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 4>completely done.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they're still snow on the ground April fifteenth.

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 4>They're saying that the hens have been bred.

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 3>What really, I'm not buying that.

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, don't question.

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Man. They're banning killing Jake's yes, wow, Yeah.

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Which is just that, like it's like not being able

0:46:59.960 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 4>to kill Spike Elk, Like sometimes that Jake saves the

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 4>day here.

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I understand you're trying to preserve quality of hunt

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>so and like it doesn't make any sense that you'd say, Okay,

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I got an idea, no one can kill a long beard.

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>People would revolt.

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 1>You're right, But I wonder if the objective was, like

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're true objective was to preserve like age class

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>breeding turkeys, if that was the true soul objective, it

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>would probably make you'd probably end up saying, no, shoot

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>all the jakes you want, don't shoot long beards.

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot more jags.

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 2>But people would freak out.

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 4>I would freak out, as we know here in Montana.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 4>If you go out opening week and you're like, god,

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of jakes around. Go back to the

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 4>same spot last week of the season, You're like, oh

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 4>my god, there's so many toms around you. Magically, there's

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 4>so many toms where there used to be so many jakes.

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Looks like they also out loud. Uh fanning and reaping

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 3>on on private.

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, Scannie, you can't fan and reap. No, you

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 1>can't fan in Michigan or Skan.

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Anymore after a few years ago.

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 4>No idea.

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>So for you folks at home, what we're talking about

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>is there was a There is a strategy. It is

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 1>a deadly at times, a deadly turkey hunting strategy is

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>picture picture yourself. You drive down the road and you

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 1>come through old old man Morgenson's uh pasture pasture, and

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 1>lo and.

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Behold ten am on a Monday morning.

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 1>There's just a giant gobbler out there with a couple hens,

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's just strutting his ass off out in the middle.

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Out in the middle. You're never gonna call him in.

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.760
<v Speaker 1>He's you're never gonna like call him over to the edge.

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>If you crawl out there, he's gonna run away.

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Well what do you do, Well, you get a big

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 2>old Turkey fan and you lay down on your belly

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 2>and you army crawl holding that Turkey fan up.

0:48:55.880 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>And there's a high likelihood, if you play your cards right,

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you will just crawl right up to.

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>That turble or he'll come running straight out and come

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 2>running to you. And then you just stick your shot

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 2>on which I have done. You actually snake your barrel

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 2>through the feathers and kind of rest rested on the fan.

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 2>It is deadly effective. Guys are even taking it to

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 2>the point.

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember there these dudes that are all over on

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 1>social media and everybody always has a conniption.

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:28.760
<v Speaker 2>But they make a hat, a Turkey fan hat. Whoa yeah,

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and so it's like a.

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Little army helmet and they crawl around with a Turkey

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 1>fan hat. Now people will look at this and bring

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 1>up the very obvious point, what if someone shoots that thing?

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 4>And if you haven't brought up this point, listen to

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 4>Jordan Siller's new podcast Yeah about guy getting shot in

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 4>the turkey ones.

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not only deadly for the turkey. Yeah, and then

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>you can, like in Wyoming, hunt turkeys of a rifle.

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Can you still have them with the rifle? In Florida?

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember they tried to get rid of it for

0:49:55.600 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 2>a while. Uh it could be you know, was it Abernathy?

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:03.840
<v Speaker 2>They get we've had a couple of guys out of

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 2>and got shot hunting turkeys. I think, yeah, Abernathy got

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 2>shot hunting turkeys. I know guys in Pennsylvania got shot Abernathy.

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 2>He lifted his foot up to rest it on a stump,

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and the guy shot his leg. I think it was Abernathy.

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And then he's the guy said in interviewing his shooter.

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 1>He said, man, when you put your leg up on

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that stump, looks just like a time going into strut.

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 9>Guys got some vision problems.

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 8>I wonder, I wonder if there's been any sort of

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 8>studies done on like trying to figure out what it is.

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 8>It's like triggers something in their brain that like takes

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 8>over a turkey's body.

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 4>The competition, man, I mean, that's all. That's what it's

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 4>got to be. Plus well, when the floors to man,

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 4>they are I don't think they're ever like more exposed

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 4>than when they're in struct right, so they you know,

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 4>they completely block themselves from having almost three hundred and

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 4>sixty degree vision.

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, it's a great chance to lift your gun

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>up so that when he turns because he can't see you.

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. But outside of that, so it's basically signaling to

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 4>all other birds. Not only is it AOK, but there's

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 4>like some hot hen action over here too, and I.

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Think you might be in a fighting mood.

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I think that's the combination of things, right, It's like

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 4>it's a signal that it's totally safe, no predators around,

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 4>and something really good good's happening, and that's like the combination.

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I just can't resist it.

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was. I was deer hunting in Idaho one time,

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 6>and it was a limited.

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Damn sure, weren't turkyng No, that's true, that's true. But

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 2>it was a limited, limited bull elk unit.

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 6>And we actually met a tag holder earlier that day.

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 6>They were hunting down the ridge from us, and we

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.359
<v Speaker 6>found a big bowl and we went and told him,

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, it was bowl over here, and we we

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:02.359
<v Speaker 6>sort of got set up to watch the bowl and

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:08.879
<v Speaker 6>they popped out one of those like cow elk foldable decoys,

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 6>walked straight to the thing. It was like on a

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 6>big open hillside. We were on a big open hillside

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.320
<v Speaker 6>and there's a little ridge between us. They walked straight

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:18.879
<v Speaker 6>towards that bowl until they could get out of sight,

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 6>and then put the cow decoy down and shot the bowl.

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Hmm. And I I've never been more nervous in my

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 2>life that someone was gonna fill a cow tag on them.

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I don't think there were any cow tags.

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 6>Like I kind of asked them about it. I was like,

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, are you sure there's not cow tags here?

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.319
<v Speaker 6>And are you sure that someone's not gonna mistake a

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 6>branch behind you or anything for an antler? Like I

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 6>just don't trust other people out there. But I've always

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 6>been curious about it because it worked real well. Yeah,

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 6>but like, yeah, it was kind of put the ice

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 6>in my veins a little bit.

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Reaping is one of those things I would never send

0:52:54.640 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>my kid out to do. Yeah, because you it'd be like,

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, because just picture the news article.

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 4>It's just additional risk, risk verse.

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Reward, Yeah, and you'd be like, man, people would be

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 1>mad at you.

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 2>He did what.

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>So you already couldn't in South Carolina in public, Now

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 1>you can't on private. I think this is going to

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>be my prediction when I crystal ball this, I get

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be more and more.

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>And more and more common.

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree.

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, I would advise, Uh, I don't want

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to blame the victim here. In the meantime, I would

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>advise people as we head out into the Turkey woods

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 1>to spring, just don't shoot at random tail fans or

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>random movement.

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 6>Kind of one of the first rules of gun safety.

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, think about it a minute before shooting at fans

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>because it might be a it might be a reaper.

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:00.879
<v Speaker 2>Maybe think about think about where you reap too.

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not it's just not especially at the public.

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just not that smart. They give a definition.

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Fanny or reaping is the practice of stalking a wild

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>turkey while hiding behind a decoy or tail fan, or

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>an image or likeness of a tail fan, applied to

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>any material I would carry.

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I kind of quit. I didn't really carry it last year.

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I used to carry in my turkey vest, I carried

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a fan. And if you cut a fan, right, there's

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 2>a way to cut it off the turkey where you

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 2>can fold it out like a pack of cards. Then

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it'll fold up real nice.

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I would lay it out and I had a little handle,

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>even I had like a formal little handle, and I

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>had a way you could open it up. And I

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>had two wing nuts on a handle. So when you

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 1>put the when you put the bolts, you put these

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>two little bolts through the fan. It would hold the

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 1>fan open. Throw a couple of wing nuts on there,

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was meant to be my crawler arounder never

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>got shot.

0:54:58.239 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 6>But you've stopped carrying it.

0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I did.

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I did, yeah, not wanting to get shot.

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And then also I feel like some of the places

0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I hunt you can't do it. You can still do

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 2>it Montana though.

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Texas, here's a Texas turkey hunting rule. This isn't terribly

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>earth shattering. Hunters must report harvest within twenty four hours

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>for all wild turkeys in all counties.

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 2>What did it used to be?

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.800
<v Speaker 9>I don't think you had a report. I just found

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 9>that this morning.

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had to report. Sorry, I think you had

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 2>to report.

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 9>Maybe they shortened the time. When I went to the

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 9>state website, I didn't see what it was before. Are

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 9>they collecting data with that or they just want to

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 9>know if you're shot on?

0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's absolutely waiting. See how many birds

0:55:55.000 --> 0:56:03.439
<v Speaker 4>got squatted that year? Yeah, yeah, I don't ever recalled, Yeah,

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 4>submitting a report for killing a turkey in Texas.

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Here's a Florida rule coming up, or Florida. This is

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a your cow talk about this Florida deal.

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 4>What's the Florida deal?

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:21.400
<v Speaker 3>The no nrs the first three days of the season.

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh, no non residents for turkey three days. So this

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 4>is a good example of states watching other states do stuff.

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.719
<v Speaker 4>And I think South Dakota was the first one to

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 4>be like the opening week of pheasant is for resident

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 4>only unless you have private property access, I think I believe.

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:49.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so all all the public stuff is off limits

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 4>to non residence and I know Montana actually has a

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 4>bill where they're considering a version of that as well.

0:56:56.200 --> 0:57:01.720
<v Speaker 4>North Dakota just went that way, I think, and those

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.880
<v Speaker 4>that's for upland bird species. But here's a version of it,

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 4>first one that I'm aware of in the turkey hunting world.

0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, give all the residents first crack at those

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 4>times that really like to come out and straut and

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 4>rub it in your face. Mm hmm.

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that's anything to get up in arms about.

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:20.919
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't as a non as a Florida

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 1>non resident, I don't like it, right, But I have

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to be honest about why I don't like it. Because

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it's inconvenient to me. Yeah, I mean it's essentially inconvenient

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 1>to me. But that's not how you can make You

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 1>can't use that as the way to make rules.

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 3>It's three days of a five week season. Like, I

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 3>think it's okay to give residents a little little bone. There.

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>A guy that sent a guy sent me this article

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, is it the end of turkey hunting

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 2>in Florida?

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:50.320
<v Speaker 1>You know it's a bubber. I mean, if you're a

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 1>non resident, it's a bubber. But I mean, like, dude,

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>if I was going to make a list of every

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>advantage residents have over non residents, I couldn't find.

0:57:57.360 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 2>A piece of paper long enough. Yeah, you get to

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>write it out on toilet paper.

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it does not get me all up

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 4>in a tissy, but.

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But man, if I was if I was a resident,

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd be licking my lips, dude. I like, listen, if

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>they came in in this state and said, hey, you know,

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>from now on first three days the elk season, or

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 1>residence only first three days a deer season, residents only, anything, anything,

0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like sweet, because with a lot of stuff,

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of hunting rules, it winds up being it.

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 2>You know. I tried, like, I don't know if I

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 2>don't make sense. I've always thought there's certain there's some

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 2>things that are like moral, you know, and there's some

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 2>things that don't have.

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 1>A moral component. They just have a it's just like

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a strategic component. Like you can't get morally upset about it.

0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't view this as a moral thing. This is

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>just like a luck or not. It's like lucky or

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 1>not lucky. It's unlucky for non residency.

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I think in Florida cap non resident turkey tags at

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:04.040
<v Speaker 3>like ten percent.

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 4>I have no idea.

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I think they might.

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Is it like the way Montana caps with the caps

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 4>and quotations caps and quotations, Yeah, I have no idea.

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by the caps and quotation Well.

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 4>There's this idea that the math is as simple as

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 4>it sounds of like, well, yeah, there can only be

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 4>ten percent of all tags going to non residence per region,

0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 4>but it's it's per opportunity.

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>What what's that mean.

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 4>It means that for every opportunity in that reg book,

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:45.960
<v Speaker 4>doze cows, bulls bucks, there's ten percent of every opportunity

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 4>available to non residents. And then if there's leftover opportunities,

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 4>they they're open to whoever wants those leftover opportunities.

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 6>And there's ways there's certain categories of tags available to

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 6>non residents that don't count against that ten percent, Like

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 6>if you have like to come home to hunt program,

1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:09.400
<v Speaker 6>that doesn't count. Yeah, or the like the Montana I

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 6>think they called Montana natives, So if you're born in

1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.520
<v Speaker 6>Montana but live out of state, that doesn't count.

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I think like.

1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:18.200
<v Speaker 6>The college students that are here, like there, they've created

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 6>all these carve outs that don't count against that ten

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:21.480
<v Speaker 6>percent number.

1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I'm not sure what happens if if you

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:28.000
<v Speaker 4>are specific Yeah, if you're specifically going with an outfitter,

1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:30.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure where that lands either, but.

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:35.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's it's it's not a hard cap, yeah.

1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:38.360
<v Speaker 4>And then like a state like Idaho, who's like same

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 4>kind of rules. Right, there's like a whole landowner pool

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:49.400
<v Speaker 4>and a whole outfitter pool. And the math doesn't ever

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:52.480
<v Speaker 4>really work in the way that we think it does,

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:54.320
<v Speaker 4>kind of like the national debt.

1:00:59.280 --> 1:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>There is a uh, cal we're gonna talk where you

1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 1>get We're to have you talk about another We're in

1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a minute, we're jumping around for state and state.

1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Do we do? We want to talk about the California thing?

1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Is it too complicated?

1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:14.640
<v Speaker 3>We should find out what happens?

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:20.400
<v Speaker 4>It is pretty easy. So marine protected areas okay, of

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:24.400
<v Speaker 4>which many exist in the state of California, with various

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:28.720
<v Speaker 4>states of protections within an m P a marine protect

1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:34.960
<v Speaker 4>protected area, going from you can still do fishing and

1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.919
<v Speaker 4>recreation to you can't have a boat in their type

1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:44.640
<v Speaker 4>of spectrum right and and no take of wildlife.

1:01:44.520 --> 1:01:47.800
<v Speaker 2>And do they move around right like they open one.

1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Well, that that's an idea. That's that started at at

1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:57.720
<v Speaker 4>the beginning of the m P a idea. Now we're

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<v Speaker 4>in the decatal review period of time, and that's where

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<v Speaker 4>like the crazy politics come in because it started as

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<v Speaker 4>this like, oh, this is going to get done really quick,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's only a couple of people on the Marine

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<v Speaker 4>Fisheries Commission that are going to take care of the

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing. And people once they started to learn what

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<v Speaker 4>was at stake and all the proposals to expand MPAs

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<v Speaker 4>and have like the most serious restrictions like no voting,

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<v Speaker 4>no fishing, then they were like, oh no, no, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal. So now the amount of people paying

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<v Speaker 4>attention is a lot larger. So it's like the full

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<v Speaker 4>Marine Fisheries Commission versus just just two members of the Commission.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it's a huge access just flat out access

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<v Speaker 4>to the ocean issue. And it's a huge, huge access

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<v Speaker 4>to to fishing and food issue too, and it and

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<v Speaker 4>it yeah, runs the gamut of like, you know, are

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<v Speaker 4>we protecting the visual like the property values of very

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<v Speaker 4>wealthy homeowners. Are we doing so at the degradation of

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<v Speaker 4>marginalized community's ability to go fish? Are we There's all

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<v Speaker 4>sorts of things that this gets into, But where we're

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<v Speaker 4>at right now is you can still comment on mp as.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of petitions out there, and it is

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<v Speaker 4>not going to get solved anytime real soon. But you

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<v Speaker 4>need to be aware that a lot of access and

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<v Speaker 4>fishing opportunity sometimes even like surfing opportunity is at stake

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<v Speaker 4>right now in the state of California. I went and

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<v Speaker 4>dove a walk in spot last year out of big

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<v Speaker 4>sur and it was freaking gorgeous and fairly I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure some people would think it's fairly dangerous, like

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<v Speaker 4>it's right next to like a juvenile white shark area

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<v Speaker 4>and really cool spot. But that spot that nobody was

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<v Speaker 4>down there using except for us, is would be a

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<v Speaker 4>place that would be closed to expand a marine protected

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<v Speaker 4>area really.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically all you could do is walk up and

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<v Speaker 3>down the beach and nothing else.

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<v Speaker 4>With like the most extreme level of NPA like public

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<v Speaker 4>access beaches, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should ban everything butt fishing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And that's the thing is, there's all sorts of

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<v Speaker 4>arguments here of like, well, we want to protect areas

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<v Speaker 4>for kelt because the kelp forests have been in such

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<v Speaker 4>crazy as you decline, but there's no evidence to suggest

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<v Speaker 4>that MPAs have helped kelp at all. The fishing argument,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's fishing regulations, not necessarily mp as, that

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna have a factor in in the health of

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<v Speaker 4>your fishery. So it's it's really interesting, but it is

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<v Speaker 4>like your your public opportunity that's at stake there, so

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<v Speaker 4>you need need to get engaged. And like California b

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<v Speaker 4>h A has been really good on this as well

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<v Speaker 4>as what is Matt Bonds All waters dot Org. Those

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<v Speaker 4>those folks have been really good on this and they're

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<v Speaker 4>putting out great information. Uh, and they're getting people to

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<v Speaker 4>all of these meetings. So connect, connect with one of

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<v Speaker 4>those groups and learn more and see where you fit in.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are the people that are pushing for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hit you with a bunch of quotes ready.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all quotes from the meeting one of the

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<v Speaker 1>meetings about this Laguna Beach expansion. Someone says, the current

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<v Speaker 1>MPa in Laguna is a ten mile fishing closure. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>ten mile fishing closure, so they already got a ten

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<v Speaker 1>mile closure, this guy is saying at the meeting. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>the current MPa in Laguna is a ten mile fishing closure,

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<v Speaker 1>significantly impacting our fishing area, not just for us, but

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<v Speaker 1>for all local fishing boats as well as lobster fishermen.

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<v Speaker 2>While we have all.

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<v Speaker 1>Supported the existing MPa in Laguna Beach and have adapted

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<v Speaker 1>to that closure, over time, we remained opposed to any

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<v Speaker 1>further expansion, and really we were very shocked to even

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<v Speaker 1>see this proposal at all. Someone in favor of it says,

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<v Speaker 1>this extent extension is a crucial step towards strengthening marine protection,

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<v Speaker 1>preserving biodiversity, and ensuring the long term health of our

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<v Speaker 1>coastal ecosystems. A guy, another guy had this to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to make it simple for people that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a no fishing zone. There's plenty other places

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<v Speaker 1>to fish. That's a guy at the meeting. Another guy

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<v Speaker 1>at the meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd like to have one little section of coastline where

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<v Speaker 2>we can still enjoy ourselves, go fish and catch stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and dive and have a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the proposed extension would make Laguna Beaches southern

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<v Speaker 3>coast completely off limits to fishing.

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<v Speaker 2>Another guy at the meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take another healthy thing away from us, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>take food out of people's mouths, and so like.

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<v Speaker 4>That quote of like, oh, there's plenty other places to fish, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's a great example of It's like, well are

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<v Speaker 4>those places available to who just folks with a big,

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<v Speaker 4>fancy boat, And it's this coastal access component that people

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<v Speaker 4>are really you know, because there's so many people go

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<v Speaker 4>out and fish on the piers, but that type of

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<v Speaker 4>fish is not necessarily for everybody, right And yeah, So

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<v Speaker 4>lots of lots of arguments here, and they've made a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of good, like grassroots steps into making sure a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of these other communities with the vested interest in

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<v Speaker 4>fishing and public access are actually getting a seat at

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<v Speaker 4>the at the table, which is great. O.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we return for a minute. This this this turkey

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<v Speaker 2>thing the South Carolina sorry, the Florida deal. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>proposed draft to rule language.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the point of this was that you can

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<v Speaker 1>let your voice be heard, and you could. You could

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<v Speaker 1>here's an email address, commissioners at my FWC dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>But would you this is just a question, would you

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<v Speaker 1>feel funny as a dude from another state writing the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildlife commissioners in Florida?

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<v Speaker 2>Given your two cents, anybody can take the survey.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a there's someone drafted a note here, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that wrote us into us drafted away. Here's some

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<v Speaker 1>things you could say in voicing your concerns. You can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about wild turkey populations in Florida are not in jeopardy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about there's no there's no concern for the resource.

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter satisfaction was reported as good or excellent by sixty

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<v Speaker 1>three percent of surveyed participants.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty three, non residents funded over half of

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<v Speaker 2>all turkey related license costs. But they're only twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>percent of participating hunters. Okay, So half of the funding

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<v Speaker 2>for licenses came from twenty two percent of the hunters,

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<v Speaker 2>and residents are already gobbling up ninety percent of special

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<v Speaker 2>turkey hunt opportunities gobbling up. That was good? Did I

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<v Speaker 2>just make that up? I did make that up.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Something's in the air, spring thunder neurovirus.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have that right now. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still let your voice be heard. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would feel very very funny writing in being like as

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<v Speaker 1>it because you're kind of like, uh, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like like all your cards around the table. You're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a non president, like, how many dudes

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<v Speaker 1>from out of state are writing in to say I

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<v Speaker 1>think this sounds like a fantastic idea.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the first three days should be for non residents.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got that. I got a counter proposal. How

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<v Speaker 1>about I just get to hunt for three days? Yeah, cal,

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<v Speaker 1>what's habitat Montana?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up with that? This is we're doing? We're this

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing to do with turkeys.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey yeah. So basically habitat Montana it's a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Fund, kind of rupt real quick, Yes, sir, Bdy, watch

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<v Speaker 2>you dump all the weeds out.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't dump that out.

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<v Speaker 9>Pass it over, spell out. I would love to have

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<v Speaker 9>some more.

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<v Speaker 3>Serving up on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Steve, rub your hands all over that stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>So we're just passing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was contagious.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good on at salmon as a little seasoning.

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<v Speaker 9>Gave me the scraps from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sorry, habitat Montana.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Barnett, there's the other thing here. Anyway, habitat Montana

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<v Speaker 4>is a habitat fund, right, it's set aside specifically to

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<v Speaker 4>address are like state parks maintenance funding for habitat work

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<v Speaker 4>that can address like non game species specifically. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's nice to have that because then you know your

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<v Speaker 4>hunter angler dollars. You're like, oh yeah, that's just gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go more towards game species and access easements as well. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So like getting habitat easements on working timber lands or

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<v Speaker 4>agriculture ground so it doesn't get developed and gobbled up

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<v Speaker 4>and turned into something non wildlife producing. This is something

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty I think we voted on. It's it's

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<v Speaker 4>really the reason that there's like recreational marijuana sales in

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<v Speaker 4>Montana because they tied the taxes associated with the sale

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<v Speaker 4>of recreational marijuana to this big outdoor habitat recreation fund

1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:36.200
<v Speaker 4>called Habitat Montana got it. It got whittled away at

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit because obviously people were like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a lot of weed money out there we could

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<v Speaker 4>use for all sorts of things. So the last legislative

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<v Speaker 4>session some cash got carved out of it, and now

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<v Speaker 4>we have house built three oh seven. That's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in play right now in the state of Montana.

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<v Speaker 2>Just looking at scan the whole thing, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Would basically suck Philly.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that great movie that we used to laugh about,

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<v Speaker 4>the I Take a straw and.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Yeah, exactly have you seen drink milk?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a weed man.

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<v Speaker 1>Associated there's like a spoof on it called there Will

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<v Speaker 1>Be Bud. They do the whole trailer on a campus,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all like a guy trying to gobble up

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<v Speaker 1>the weed market on a campus and he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I clear your bong rip.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is very appropriate because we're dealing with weed money here, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, voters Montana came came together and said this

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<v Speaker 4>is what we want, got whittled the way last session,

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<v Speaker 4>and now in this session it's going. If HB three

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<v Speaker 4>oh seven were to pass, it would remove this funding.

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<v Speaker 2>To what end, to use it for something different, to

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<v Speaker 2>use it.

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<v Speaker 4>For something different, which it doesn't really even we don't

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<v Speaker 4>even need to talk about because the state's operating at

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<v Speaker 4>a surplus right now, so there's lots of money that

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<v Speaker 4>could be used. This is money that's earmarked for habitat

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<v Speaker 4>And then we put it in the context of what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening with the federal government right now with the funding

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<v Speaker 4>freezes and the fact that there is a huge question

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<v Speaker 4>mark around federal funding that is typically available for habitat

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<v Speaker 4>work like this state fund is very important. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>a huge increase in the population here in Montana and

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<v Speaker 4>a huge increase of the overall population that is using

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<v Speaker 4>state lands in weed and weed apparently, Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We need it I'll try to explain a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>this to our day to someone. We're having a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about state funding mechanisms, and I'm like, with the FEDS

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<v Speaker 1>kind of setting the clock back to eighteen ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of attitude towards natural resources, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to become even more important.

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<v Speaker 4>More important, and we're just seeing increased use too. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's a bummer that some folks think that this

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<v Speaker 4>is a good idea right now. Recent polling data says

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<v Speaker 4>seventy one percent of Montana households use public lands and trails,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is our only like state funding mechanism set

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<v Speaker 4>aside to address this stuff, and it's been like wildly

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<v Speaker 4>successful the way it's been used so far. We completely

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<v Speaker 4>eliminated the state park's maintenance backlog out of this fund.

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<v Speaker 4>So instead of you, like you're hunting in angling dollars

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<v Speaker 4>going to things that probably folks in this room don't

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<v Speaker 4>use quite as much as as the retirees out there.

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<v Speaker 4>We kind of like the fact that our hunting and

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<v Speaker 4>angling dollars are addressing the things that we want, not

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<v Speaker 4>some of the things that are being addressed in this

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<v Speaker 4>habitat for Montana fund.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what would be helpful to a citizen such

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<v Speaker 1>as myself is whenever you see a proposal like we're

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<v Speaker 1>I was covering like proposals, Let you know, there should

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<v Speaker 1>be a way that you know, like there should be

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<v Speaker 1>a a graphic that goes with proposals, and it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like the fire risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, like like there ared is that that some.

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<v Speaker 1>Gal from Florida introduces legislation to put like Trump on

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<v Speaker 1>on Mount Rushmore. Okay, okay, So what it would be

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<v Speaker 1>is that graphic would be there, and the graphic would

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<v Speaker 1>be like at all the way to the left, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>this will never happen, do I mean like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's someone just doing a thing to well in that case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's just someone being like a sycophant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like they're like doing a gesture like hey, look

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<v Speaker 1>look at me. Look how loyal I am? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not serious, like it's not gonna happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not serious. Like a lot of Peda's work, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like Pete stuff like oh yeah, here's a billboard, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a bill to ban people from being able to say

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<v Speaker 1>you got your your cart before the horse or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like to ban any kind of animal expression.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you could just be at home and see

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<v Speaker 1>a bill and it would just tell you, or there's

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<v Speaker 1>an app you could scare. You could like take a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of legal language and the app would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a not thing. This is a non thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's someone, it's a gesture. It's someone trying to make headlines.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, don't burn your brain thinking about this.

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<v Speaker 6>It happens. It happens on both sides that someone will

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<v Speaker 6>introduce some sort of frivolous legislation and then you see

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<v Speaker 6>a bunch of headlines about it because the people on

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<v Speaker 6>the other side, I want to bash that idea publicly,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's like, oh, let's just pay attention to more

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<v Speaker 6>serious things, right.

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<v Speaker 4>It just sucks the bandwidth out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that's when you hear people be like, now

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, like Peter does stuff just to get

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<v Speaker 1>like Peta does things just to egg.

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<v Speaker 3>On and hopefully get a headline.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to egg people on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and so they'll do a thing like

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<v Speaker 1>this has zero chance in hell, but they'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>because also in there they are in the headlines, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like that that Mount Rushmore thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked up and I was trying to picture Mount Rushmore.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, would you put it on the right

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<v Speaker 2>lookers right or lookers left? But j'all just say this.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't room.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no like, no this the rock's not suitable kind

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<v Speaker 2>of someone's got to go.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is what I was looking for, Just

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<v Speaker 4>so folks know it's not just here in Montana. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you recreate Montana, you live here right in. Ask

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<v Speaker 4>your state representative to vote no or even a no vote,

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<v Speaker 4>but to vote no on HB three oh seven. We

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<v Speaker 4>need dedicated habitat funding. That's the only thing that we

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<v Speaker 4>have right now. But over in Wisconsin there's a similar

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<v Speaker 4>bill that would would basically stop the Noles Nelson Stewardship program,

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<v Speaker 4>which was created in nineteen eighty nine. People are really

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<v Speaker 4>organized and aware of this one, including Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever,

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<v Speaker 4>the Safari Club have all come together to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>the Noles Nelson Stewardship program is renewed. And there's some

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<v Speaker 4>lawmakers over there that are saying that they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>stop it because it's just funding that they don't think

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<v Speaker 4>should exist.

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<v Speaker 3>But is there is there examples in other states where

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<v Speaker 3>where the like funds like these weed tax funds or

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<v Speaker 3>like lottery sales where that that were dedicated towards public lands, wildlife,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera, where they've been raided and put elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think there's there's a ton of examples. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like look at look at the state of Missouri.

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<v Speaker 4>Missouri is considered to have like a phenomenal wildlife funding

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<v Speaker 4>mechanism because they have an actual state tax right but

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<v Speaker 4>literally the year after that tax was implemented, there were

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<v Speaker 4>people trying to shut that thing down. And every year

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<v Speaker 4>people attempt to divert funds from you know what many

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<v Speaker 4>people consider to be like one of the best wildlife

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<v Speaker 4>programs in the US, but an another one. New Mexico

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<v Speaker 4>has like a sovereign wealth fund that's taxes out of energy,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a fund that renews itself and grows, and

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<v Speaker 4>then that funding basically secures or is secure for like

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<v Speaker 4>their school programs, So that that'd be a version of

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<v Speaker 4>what this habitat for Montana fund is that is successful.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's baked into the Restoration Wildlife factor, the Pittman

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<v Speaker 1>Robertson Fund. They baked into it language and it's called

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<v Speaker 1>like so and so's twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Words or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, there's like a name for it where it's excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Me that it's like it's written into the rule that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't pillage it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because anytime someone sees a little pot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to go get it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not sure about Missouri, but like at least

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<v Speaker 6>in Montana, I mean that was part of the that's

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<v Speaker 6>like what people voted on, like we're gonna do weed,

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<v Speaker 6>but the weed money is going to go here, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And I believe that the same is true of the

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<v Speaker 6>sales tax in Missouri. Is that like it was? Wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>it a public Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Total bipartisan Yeah, And it's like this is part of

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<v Speaker 4>the deal, and then as soon as as soon as

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<v Speaker 4>people get on the same page, somebody else is trying

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<v Speaker 4>to do the run around behind the back and spend

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<v Speaker 4>that money elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been like, like all this legalizing weed rules,

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<v Speaker 1>I could give a shit. I don't know what was

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<v Speaker 1>so bad about hiding in the bushes, But I'm like well, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to use it for conservation money, then

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<v Speaker 1>ye get a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Still, does your theory still hold true? Like about democratic

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<v Speaker 3>and republican states like legalization.

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<v Speaker 1>That legalizing weed is yeah, like the lefty states were

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<v Speaker 1>quicker to legalize weed.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just wondering what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that just like accepted as reality?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but we've kind of kind of showed that

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't necessarily that the case.

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<v Speaker 2>I think over time perhaps, but Wyoming is still holding strong.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they don't want you smoking weed. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm out.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmmm, I drink it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Who else has got something?

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<v Speaker 9>Someone's got it? Take me turkey hunting this season. That's

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<v Speaker 9>my thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I I want everybody to know that kren is the

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<v Speaker 4>only person in the office. We'll just put we have

1:24:53.160 --> 1:24:56.360
<v Speaker 4>like internal communication thing called slack, and she'll just put

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<v Speaker 4>out there, does anybody have any pheasant spots they want

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<v Speaker 4>to give?

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<v Speaker 2>Put?

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is like, she absolutely knows it's not appropriate questions,

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<v Speaker 4>but she doesn't care either. Somebody will break.

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<v Speaker 6>I put on the charade of just going up never

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<v Speaker 6>killed a turkey.

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<v Speaker 2>Just putting that out there, but I don't you know, then.

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<v Speaker 6>Follow up with the director ask just sort of seed

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<v Speaker 6>that thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you ask some special gun you're gonna use for

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<v Speaker 3>your first.

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<v Speaker 6>Turkey if I can get it back from the gunsmith.

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<v Speaker 3>Great one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you're talking, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was only I was only half listening when you're yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to tease you about shooting flint lock.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, what is the gun you're making?

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<v Speaker 6>It's a it's a very silly story, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>a it's like a German imported version of a submachine

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<v Speaker 6>gun that's civilian legals. So it's got a sixteen inch

1:25:56.400 --> 1:25:58.360
<v Speaker 6>barrel and the lower unit is different. So you can

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<v Speaker 6>get a trigger group from the real deal, make some modifications,

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<v Speaker 6>mills some things, replace some parts, slap it in there,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you get a little it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little little bullet, a little bullet hose and it's fully automatic.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, it's just it resembles the real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about breaking law for a minute. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is all above that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a yeah, it's that's a big that's a big

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<v Speaker 4>law to break.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, this is very self conscious, but this is

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<v Speaker 6>just uh and.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to use that machine gun for turkey?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, It's just a silly, little fun project

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<v Speaker 6>that I'll probably end up selling as soon as I

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<v Speaker 6>finish it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never seen Cal. He's got more stuff to read.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen Cal less interested.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I would have more interest

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<v Speaker 4>in talking about rewiring a camper trailer that's currently currently

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in your barn.

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<v Speaker 6>We can do that.

1:26:56.600 --> 1:26:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's one more fun to me. Yeah, it's like, oh,

1:26:59.400 --> 1:27:00.960
<v Speaker 4>you're buying parts and putting them together.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe how little he cared about what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>If you shot this thing, you would care more.

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<v Speaker 4>Robertson dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, you know what I was feeling, Cal was feeling

1:27:12.160 --> 1:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>complete indifference. What I was feeling is a little out

1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of the out of the loop. Yeah, no, it's to

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<v Speaker 1>be like that that. I'm like, am I Like, how

1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>could I not know what he's talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Little jealous?

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<v Speaker 6>A very niche uh gun subculture. I've always been curious

1:27:29.200 --> 1:27:30.320
<v Speaker 6>about about these.

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<v Speaker 2>When do you say these? What do you mean this?

1:27:34.400 --> 1:27:34.479
<v Speaker 8>This?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's just tell them what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's an h K U s C and the U

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<v Speaker 6>m P is the original sort of law enforcement version.

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<v Speaker 6>But you can do these modifications and put a folding.

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<v Speaker 2>Stock on it. What's miss Williams thinking? She thinks it's

1:27:51.600 --> 1:27:57.679
<v Speaker 2>really stupid. How much you're gonna have into this? Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just keep that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not a great question.

1:27:59.560 --> 1:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are all imaginary numbers, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>Should what you should ask is how much does he

1:28:04.760 --> 1:28:08.040
<v Speaker 8>stand to make off of this once he completes a

1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:09.400
<v Speaker 8>little build.

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<v Speaker 2>How much you're gonna make, Reynald, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I think it'll be I think it'll

1:28:16.640 --> 1:28:18.040
<v Speaker 6>be more than I put into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is like a for profit You're like a

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<v Speaker 2>gun dealer.

1:28:24.120 --> 1:28:25.960
<v Speaker 6>That have certain legal implications.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's a postum gun.

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<v Speaker 8>Now I'm trying to convince Randall to never sell gun

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<v Speaker 8>don't sell guns in that case.

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<v Speaker 2>I always regret it when I do. No, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to, but now I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I've got a whole I mean, sometimes I play

1:28:38.160 --> 1:28:39.800
<v Speaker 6>a game with my buddy where we try to name

1:28:39.840 --> 1:28:43.120
<v Speaker 6>every gun that we've bought and sold, and we have

1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:45.519
<v Speaker 6>a spreadsheet going. But it's still incomplete because we can't

1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:48.840
<v Speaker 6>get there. Just a weird hobby, you know. So there's

1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:53.040
<v Speaker 6>some guys that are like really into cars, some guys

1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:55.960
<v Speaker 6>that are really into stamps. But this will be fun.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll have the little project and then I can use

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<v Speaker 6>it as a little plinker at the rain for a

1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:02.559
<v Speaker 6>little while, and then maybe it goes down the road.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe I I just keep it, maybe I hang on

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<v Speaker 6>to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I do you want to keep going?

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<v Speaker 2>For the record, I didn't bring this up. It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to change the subject. Several times. You seem

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, it's one of

1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:26.519
<v Speaker 6>those things that I'd sort of do compulsively. And I

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<v Speaker 6>think if I if I were, if I were better

1:29:30.160 --> 1:29:33.439
<v Speaker 6>able to control my impulses, I'd probably make more practical

1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:35.400
<v Speaker 6>decisions with the guns that I buy and sell. But

1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:38.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's just me and something that I live

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<v Speaker 6>with every day. I look at myself in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't always like what I see.

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<v Speaker 2>Too hard on yourself, cal go ahead, what were you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say when you got bored with Randall?

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<v Speaker 4>Senate Joint Resolution twenty five Dash zero zero nine Protection

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<v Speaker 4>of Colorado's public Land. So this just happened yesterday. We're

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<v Speaker 4>very timely, right, But it is a bipartisan two Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>two Republicans in the state of Colorado pushed through sj R.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty five Dash zero zero nine, which is a joint

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<v Speaker 4>resolution that says Colorado will not support the sale or

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<v Speaker 4>privatization or transfer of the twenty two million acres of

1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:30.760
<v Speaker 4>public land in the state of Colorado. So this is

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<v Speaker 4>in response to a bunch of the stuff that we've

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<v Speaker 4>been covering over the last couple of months, Utah's lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 4>which is going to be resubmitted here pretty quick. No really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so great proactive move from the state of Colorado. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>they have twenty two million acres of federally managed land

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<v Speaker 4>in that state and saying that they're against sale or

1:30:56.800 --> 1:30:59.200
<v Speaker 4>transfer to public lands, which is great news for folks

1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:01.439
<v Speaker 4>who like to go out outside and do stuff in

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<v Speaker 4>a free America.

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<v Speaker 1>And so with my little fire chart showing likelihood of advancing,

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<v Speaker 1>where does this one fit.

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<v Speaker 4>This one's through. It's through in the state of Colorado. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Also in Colorado, that one we were talking about where

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<v Speaker 3>they were going to change the language of how hunting

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<v Speaker 3>would be used, and that got tabled, so it's dead

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<v Speaker 3>for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I figured, I had that pegged as

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<v Speaker 1>a low when I developed my app. It'll be like

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<v Speaker 1>a low probability. That seemed like a gesture, that seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like grand standing.

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<v Speaker 6>But every now and then there's a dry, windy day,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, prefer like figuratively speaking, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do you like that? I really did, I really did.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a gun build going on right now too, Steve.

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<v Speaker 4>I finally sent you that guy's info. Oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're not going to talk about him on the show

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't want to get him backed up too

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<v Speaker 4>much with gun orders. Yeah, my new new flint flint lock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not saying names.

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<v Speaker 4>Steve wants a percussion cap. I'm gonna go with the flintlock.

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<v Speaker 2>That's weak ship. I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell what I want. I did a call

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<v Speaker 1>out on this and I'm gonna do another call out

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I want a single trigger percussion cap mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>tack driver.

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<v Speaker 3>Without the set trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Trigger I know company single yeh single trigger.

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<v Speaker 3>You just want like a three pound.

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<v Speaker 2>A three pound trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that stupid second trigger on there, just

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<v Speaker 1>percussion cap, single trigger, but a tack driver, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>willing to pay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have yet to participate. I guess we did do, Like, Ah,

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<v Speaker 4>where the hell were we Nebraska or Iowa or someplace

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<v Speaker 4>trying to hunt things with muzzleoders?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Those are modern inlines, right, I like things.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's but that's the only thing I have.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 4>We plus we shot secret years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah you did that with you didn't even

1:33:12.400 --> 1:33:16.599
<v Speaker 3>have a scope on yours. No, No, those are shooting

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<v Speaker 3>away across the marsh, just leveling them.

1:33:19.400 --> 1:33:25.280
<v Speaker 4>Those things come with scopes. Anyway, real excited you to

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<v Speaker 4>participate in Montana's heritage season. Well, she's hanging with me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh so I'm doing the sensible thing and building up

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<v Speaker 4>a rifle that is going to be super awesome so

1:33:39.880 --> 1:33:42.760
<v Speaker 4>I can go effectively lay the smack down this this

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<v Speaker 4>coming heritage season with whatever tags I have left in

1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:45.960
<v Speaker 4>my pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a single trigger ahead, fifty col single trigger, fifty cow,

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<v Speaker 1>three pound pole, percussion cap.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. That's like Timy.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't need to look old Timy. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's Montana legal.

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<v Speaker 8>That's like the old barely legal the TC Pennsylvania Hunter.

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<v Speaker 8>That's exactly what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Single trigger percussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now with percussion caps, you still got to walk

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<v Speaker 3>around with a plastic bag.

1:34:20.920 --> 1:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>If it's percussion Pennsylvania.

1:34:23.200 --> 1:34:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you can.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you can only use flint lock.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well wasn't. It's a it's a model that Thompson

1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:33.080
<v Speaker 8>Center made. They all the ones I've ever seen have

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<v Speaker 8>been flint locks. But uh, they make them in or

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<v Speaker 8>they used to. They don't make them anymore. Is it

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<v Speaker 8>still available?

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<v Speaker 2>Single trigger percussion? You probably have to find one somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. TC is getting fired back up again,

1:34:45.160 --> 1:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>so maybe they're gonna start making them. Oh you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know something interesting that happen to me and doctor Randall.

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<v Speaker 2>Two things. We're in Wyoming. We're about right to wrap up, Phil.

1:34:56.680 --> 1:34:57.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's great.

1:34:57.400 --> 1:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Put your hand on the switch there. And we're in Wyoming.

1:35:01.880 --> 1:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>We went so we went to these archaeologists offices and

1:35:07.520 --> 1:35:09.559
<v Speaker 1>one thing that happened the minute we walked in the door.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember this, Randall, We walked into an archaeologist

1:35:13.680 --> 1:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>office and immediately I look in there's a giant dinosaur

1:35:17.360 --> 1:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>bone on the floor like a giant femur of a

1:35:21.479 --> 1:35:25.240
<v Speaker 1>dinosaur and I said something to the effect of good lord,

1:35:26.439 --> 1:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>what's that And he said that's a rock And I said, oh,

1:35:31.439 --> 1:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a dinosaur bone.

1:35:32.840 --> 1:35:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And he said that's what the guy that gave it

1:35:35.160 --> 1:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to me thought it was. And he offered it to us.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, he said, if you want to get it out

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<v Speaker 6>of here, it's all yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the interesting part.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are doing an excavation of Fort Bonneville, so

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<v Speaker 1>like an eighteen thirties mountain man site, and they're showing

1:35:54.920 --> 1:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>us just a little like scraps of metal. I mean,

1:35:58.800 --> 1:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>there's not much there, like you how the metal was coveted,

1:36:01.320 --> 1:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like nothing gets thrown away but a.

1:36:05.400 --> 1:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Bunch of little old like old. But what would have.

1:36:08.920 --> 1:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Been very brand new is a bunch of percussion caps.

1:36:13.520 --> 1:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>They came off this site and they looked just like

1:36:16.640 --> 1:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a yeah, really like.

1:36:18.880 --> 1:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Dude, just like a little yeah, just like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a percussion cap.

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<v Speaker 3>Were they fired or on fire?

1:36:25.160 --> 1:36:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Fired percussion caps? Fired percussion caps? Yeah? That that was cool.

1:36:30.080 --> 1:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you're looking at the infancy of it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been cutting edge technology.

1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's cool.

1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Was it the Hawken Brothers that came up with percussion.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if those percussion caps worked.

1:36:44.400 --> 1:36:47.200
<v Speaker 2>They definitely did, man, they definitely did well.

1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:49.880
<v Speaker 4>How many of them worked to not work? Ratio? That's

1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:50.240
<v Speaker 4>what I mean?

1:36:50.640 --> 1:36:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Like what was the yeah, Like, how often did you

1:36:52.439 --> 1:36:53.040
<v Speaker 2>have a missfire?

1:36:53.120 --> 1:36:57.080
<v Speaker 4>I can't say, yeah, that hunt, that the Nebraska or

1:36:57.080 --> 1:37:01.160
<v Speaker 4>whatever late season dealer that we did. Finally, deer steps

1:37:01.160 --> 1:37:05.439
<v Speaker 4>out a little too far. Deer steps out a little

1:37:05.439 --> 1:37:07.840
<v Speaker 4>too far. Oh, this one's on the right track, comes

1:37:07.840 --> 1:37:10.120
<v Speaker 4>out perfect, broadside.

1:37:14.040 --> 1:37:18.440
<v Speaker 3>The bad primers, another tip, little.

1:37:18.280 --> 1:37:22.160
<v Speaker 4>Puffs of smoke and off percussions. Yeah, off percussion caps.

1:37:22.160 --> 1:37:25.639
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why you're going to the flint lock.

1:37:27.400 --> 1:37:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Exactly exactly well. And the other reason I'm going with

1:37:32.320 --> 1:37:35.280
<v Speaker 4>the flint lock too is if it, for whatever reason

1:37:35.880 --> 1:37:39.280
<v Speaker 4>is something that I do not like and can't accommodate,

1:37:39.360 --> 1:37:41.559
<v Speaker 4>I can always go to a percussion cap with that

1:37:41.640 --> 1:37:42.280
<v Speaker 4>same rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>I just put it changed the lot different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you ever think about getting yourself a match lock? No,

1:37:49.120 --> 1:37:50.559
<v Speaker 1>the old k had a light of fire.

1:37:51.720 --> 1:37:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Then they confuse.

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<v Speaker 6>A wheel lock.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody good, and we got anything else to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Turkey week, Good luck, Turkey hold.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have any Do you have any goals for

1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:09.240
<v Speaker 4>your week of vacation that's coming up.

1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I need to recuperate. We're gonna spearfish bunch. But I'm

1:38:15.920 --> 1:38:18.599
<v Speaker 2>worried about I just don't have any energy right now,

1:38:19.439 --> 1:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>so I'm worried about that.

1:38:20.560 --> 1:38:22.719
<v Speaker 4>Do you have any species goals?

1:38:24.920 --> 1:38:29.639
<v Speaker 2>No? Take what I can get. I packed my Feelae knife,

1:38:29.680 --> 1:38:30.439
<v Speaker 2>so I can tell you that.

1:38:30.920 --> 1:38:34.639
<v Speaker 4>You don't want to be on that.

1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Pack my knife.

1:38:35.960 --> 1:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get better. My kid's raring to go. He's

1:38:38.840 --> 1:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be very irritated that I'm not that.

1:38:40.920 --> 1:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I need a day. I need a recuperation day or

1:38:43.000 --> 1:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>two when I get there.

1:38:44.320 --> 1:38:46.439
<v Speaker 9>Did he get that new GoPro?

1:38:47.640 --> 1:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>My god, Oh he did, and he's got like a

1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>little payment plan. He did a high bank rolled the purchase.

1:38:57.680 --> 1:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh he had he had one hundred bucks of the

1:39:00.120 --> 1:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>kicked in. I made him make a chart so for

1:39:03.800 --> 1:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the next eight months, he owes me thirty bucks.

1:39:06.880 --> 1:39:18.320
<v Speaker 2>A month in interesting juice parenting. So I got that

1:39:18.439 --> 1:39:21.599
<v Speaker 2>chart my office, thirty bucks a month.

1:39:21.840 --> 1:39:26.799
<v Speaker 4>You should build one with like general credit card interest rates.

1:39:27.000 --> 1:39:28.800
<v Speaker 4>And here's what I could that.

1:39:29.320 --> 1:39:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a variable. That was the thing about it.

1:39:32.520 --> 1:39:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Milking it out of.

1:39:33.280 --> 1:39:35.000
<v Speaker 9>Him is ro getting the old camera.

1:39:36.520 --> 1:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>He says, part of what his plan is to sell

1:39:39.080 --> 1:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the old one to get some of his payments.

1:39:41.720 --> 1:39:43.320
<v Speaker 9>He's got a mind.

1:39:43.400 --> 1:39:46.120
<v Speaker 2>He's a wheeler dealer. Yeah, exactly. He's like Randall. He's

1:39:46.120 --> 1:39:46.960
<v Speaker 2>a wheeler dealer.

1:39:47.360 --> 1:39:50.160
<v Speaker 9>Out and he should accompany Randall to the estate sales

1:39:50.200 --> 1:39:52.759
<v Speaker 9>and then maybe they can buy stuff and re sell stuff.

1:39:52.800 --> 1:39:55.439
<v Speaker 4>And I can't wait to see him out there being like,

1:39:56.040 --> 1:39:58.200
<v Speaker 4>the more I talk about this, I don't even think

1:39:58.240 --> 1:40:02.439
<v Speaker 4>I want to sell this. It's probably better than the

1:40:02.479 --> 1:40:05.680
<v Speaker 4>new one. But I suppose I could let him go.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this might be my last show. It's been fun.

1:40:11.040 --> 1:40:13.599
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for a good, good run.

1:40:13.680 --> 1:40:15.559
<v Speaker 2>What number is this grin? If I die?

1:40:15.680 --> 1:40:18.559
<v Speaker 7>Oh wow, we're at six hundred six seventy something.

1:40:19.520 --> 1:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>You believe that if I die? Well, everybody you know,

1:40:23.720 --> 1:40:28.200
<v Speaker 2>thanks for listening. Can I have all your ship.

1:40:31.280 --> 1:40:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Address?

1:40:35.040 --> 1:40:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And since Randall knows Randall, you're in charge of

1:40:38.720 --> 1:40:39.479
<v Speaker 2>the estates.

1:40:39.720 --> 1:40:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't have to fight everything.

1:40:42.800 --> 1:40:45.519
<v Speaker 1>I've got the app on my phone.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll be real smooth.

1:40:46.800 --> 1:40:50.839
<v Speaker 9>We'll auction everything off and we'll get a bajillion dollars

1:40:50.880 --> 1:40:51.720
<v Speaker 9>for conservation.

1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Randall sent me a plan access Randall. He was showing

1:40:54.640 --> 1:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>me about an estate sale the other day and then

1:40:56.840 --> 1:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he sent me a picture. There's two things at the

1:40:59.000 --> 1:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>estate sale that didn't sell, and it was a box

1:41:01.800 --> 1:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of empty DVD cases and some disposable yearine collection devices.

1:41:08.439 --> 1:41:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Everything else cleared out.

1:41:10.520 --> 1:41:12.240
<v Speaker 6>I got a I got a box of bullets for

1:41:12.280 --> 1:41:15.080
<v Speaker 6>real steel and a nice digital scale with my name

1:41:15.160 --> 1:41:15.360
<v Speaker 6>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 9>H