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Speaker 2: You know what was humiliating for Randall? What? Oh, that's

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Speaker 2: a turn the machine on? Phil? Oh, it's been on

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Speaker 2: scoot Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get ready for a lot of that this set.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start off for telling me about I'm dying.

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Speaker 2: What's that? No? You know what. I can't work up

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Speaker 2: any lugs. Even when I work one up, like watches,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: You'll know you get when it starts.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: Even when I work one up, it's like it's like

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Speaker 1: I'm drawing it up from my balls.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's like coming from deep down, you know.

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Speaker 3: I just want the suits at meat Eater to know.

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Speaker 3: And we're all out at work. Steve wasn't contagious, like

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Speaker 3: we got sick somehow.

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Speaker 2: Listen man, it's not my fault. I told everybody I'm sick.

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Speaker 2: There's like you got you know, I got hemmed over here.

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Speaker 3: I don't think if we get sick, it'll be your fault.

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Speaker 1: Tough ship, dude, listen, I'm pulling it. I'm pulling that

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Speaker 1: flam up for my nuts.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: But it hangs up, It hangs up around my stern.

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Speaker 2: I can't get it up.

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Speaker 4: Getting old.

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Speaker 5: I don't have the strength you Yeah, so yeah, the

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Speaker 5: looky bucket, there's nothing that if you gave me a

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Speaker 5: looky bucket, it's a dry bucket.

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Speaker 2: Phil, Do you want to start this sober? We're good?

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Speaker 2: I think we're good.

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Speaker 3: They do have met Oh.

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Speaker 1: I was to say, what's humiliating for Randall's Randall, as

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Speaker 1: much as he's like a gun nut and everything, what

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Speaker 1: kind of gun you're making right now?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 6: It's a I'm converting a H K U s C

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Speaker 6: to U M P H.

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Speaker 2: Yeah means well, I hope it's I'm gonna get out

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Speaker 2: in front of this. It's not a flintlock.

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Speaker 1: What was humiliating for Randall's Randall trying to shoot a

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Speaker 1: flint lock? You can't get used to He can't get

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Speaker 2: The fact you got wait a second, most can't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean I if you're gonna shoot a

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Speaker 6: flintlock for the first time, I highly recommend you do

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Speaker 6: it while being filmed by two people with Steve looking

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Speaker 6: over your shoulder.

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Speaker 2: It just makes it for a really nice experience.

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Speaker 4: It's hard for.

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Speaker 2: People to get over the little explosion in their face.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I uh no, we're going.

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Speaker 7: I need you to fill out the frame because right

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Speaker 7: now Seth and called lonely over.

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Speaker 3: There are you saying? Renal wouldn't have made it as

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Speaker 3: a mountain man?

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Speaker 2: Jesus, you've been fun.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I could see leaving that day other

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Speaker 6: than being totally humiliated. I could see how it would

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Speaker 6: be interesting to like get used to that and sort

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Speaker 6: of train that into your brain. Like if I if

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Speaker 6: I had access to one and a little bit of time,

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Speaker 6: it'd be fun to.

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Speaker 2: Get better at it. But yeah, it's it threw me

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Speaker 8: It's key to have your system dialed. Where as you

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Speaker 8: pull the trigger, the things going off. Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 8: want to hang fire.

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Speaker 6: The first two shots. I didn't even need to look

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Speaker 6: at the target. I said this rifle was pointing in

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Speaker 6: a completely different direction by the time it went off.

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Speaker 2: So I got some stuff to share. You guys want

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Speaker 2: to try something interesting? Sure, there's a So there's these

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Speaker 2: dudes I know I've bought.

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Speaker 1: There's these dudes I know up at uh they live

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Speaker 1: there in Cake, Alaska, and they make.

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Speaker 2: You're here sage brush dry you know that dry bag.

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Speaker 2: I have sage brush dry dry.

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Speaker 1: Bag, like a real They make a really nice rubber

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Speaker 1: eyes like it's like a submersible dry bag, like a

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Speaker 1: dry bag dry bag. Anyways, they sent me. I've bought

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Speaker 1: bags from them and they sent me. That's black seaweed

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Speaker 2: Try that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this is saka salmon they make and dry bag.

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Speaker 1: You just you just eat it, yeah, right out.

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Speaker 2: It's good. It's interesting. I'm gonna get into that. You

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Speaker 2: know what we were doing that that I hadn't done

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Speaker 2: before I was fat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cran would get a kick out of this because

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Speaker 1: it's kind of Chinese, you know.

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Speaker 2: Cooking up the.

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Speaker 1: Just like taking the kelp, just grab kelp out of

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Speaker 1: the ocean. Were you there when we were doing this?

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Speaker 1: Seth salty, but just taking kelp out of the ocean

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Speaker 1: cutting it like noodles.

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't there. I don't think it's the easiest

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Speaker 2: thing in the world. Dude. You take kelp out of

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Speaker 2: the blue part. No, no, the leaves, just you find

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Speaker 1: My kids arise, dragging and boating and them I was

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Speaker 1: yelling at them about it. Just cut it into noodles

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Speaker 1: and just steam them and put butter and salt on

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Speaker 1: a damn.

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Speaker 2: That is good man. It's like you don't need to

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Speaker 2: bring any kind of vegetables up there. Do you like

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Speaker 2: that seaweed? I don't, guys, I think it's good, delicious.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying this with the most love I can. I

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Speaker 7: can muster.

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Speaker 3: You need.

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Speaker 7: Even when you think you're close to the mic, you're

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Speaker 7: never close enough to the micro. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Wow, I'm getting close and I'm chewing my.

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Speaker 2: I can feel love. It's like from a producer. I

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Speaker 2: mean like producer or producer. You know, it's a real hit.

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Speaker 3: Who's got a knife. Probably this stuff out of here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh, don't use that.

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Speaker 1: God knows where it's so care the good folks up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: It's delicious and it's like kind of it's purple.

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Speaker 2: See when I retire, I used to think that you

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Speaker 2: don't like it Chili.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm.

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Speaker 9: Here.

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Speaker 4: It's not disgust.

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Speaker 2: It's not disgusting, but it's like ice. Think.

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Speaker 1: When I retire and move up to my shack, I

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Speaker 1: was like, all I need is like butter and gas

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Speaker 2: But I don't even need vegetables, gas and butter. It

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Speaker 2: tastes like fat, like like a raw fat. Look at

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Speaker 2: what Brody's making, a salt.

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Speaker 9: Sea flavor that has like a little bit of like

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Speaker 9: bacon fat kind of.

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Speaker 2: Corey, can you come into a mic here and tell

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Speaker 2: everybody what's going on now with what your problem is?

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Speaker 2: What's your problem?

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Speaker 3: Corey?

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't think I have a problem.

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Speaker 2: You do.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have it be that now the Northern the

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Speaker 1: Northern people get beat by the Southern people at turkey calling.

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Speaker 10: Oh well, there's a lot more enthusiasm coming out of

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Speaker 10: the South, I'll tell you that much. We got a

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Speaker 10: Turkey calling contest coming and it's my job to coordinate

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Speaker 10: all these videos for this contest. And all three of

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Speaker 10: our Southern participants they were done weeks.

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Speaker 2: Ago because they get because they get excited about this

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Speaker 4: And it's already spring. Well, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a good point too. Yeah, it's snowing

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Speaker 2: out here right now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you could be ice fishing if you risking it,

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Speaker 10: or skiing, but we're not turkey hunting yet.

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Speaker 1: No, no, and then how are you going to film

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Speaker 1: this contest on them?

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Speaker 2: On your phone? Are you just using Phil's camera here?

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Speaker 4: No, it's a completely pointless How long look for turkeys?

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Speaker 6: Right now?

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Speaker 2: How long can mine be? I mean, just three rounds?

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Speaker 10: Make them just fifteen seconds?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is a way long. I'm only doing

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Speaker 2: one round, but you.

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Speaker 6: Got to do a little intro like here's round.

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Speaker 2: One, Okay, round two? That's not like that, though, I

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Speaker 2: can cut it up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Cory's just trying to do his job over here,

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Speaker 1: because here here's my complain about the annual turkey calling contest.

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Speaker 1: Is my complain about the turkey calling contest? Is it

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Speaker 1: just like it's like it's set up for Southerners to win?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Why don't you have a contest who can talk the most?

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Speaker 1: Like Abe Lincoln? There's something about I know, there's something

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Speaker 1: about that, yo, that like lends itself.

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Speaker 2: To turkey calling, spot and stalking.

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Speaker 1: It's like like there's like the Southerners are always super

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Speaker 1: good at turkey calling, and then you gotta have them

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Speaker 1: on the northerner guys to play against him, and he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna win the right twang.

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Speaker 2: So maybe we should have an element like they got.

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Speaker 1: There's just there's so much more. I mean, like life

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Speaker 1: in the North is just it's more complicated.

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Speaker 2: There's more going on, and you can't just sit back

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Speaker 2: and luguriate in calling turkeys.

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Speaker 3: A Southerners are born with a call in their mouth.

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Speaker 2: And they don't have to worry about any kind of

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Speaker 2: bad weather, you know what I mean, Like here, you

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Speaker 2: gotta be you gotta be on your game, man, ice.

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Speaker 6: Cold, hurricanes, tornadoes.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't count.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they call turkeys right through those hurricanes. They

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Speaker 1: just sit on their porch like calling turkeys. And we're like,

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Speaker 1: you can't go out on your porch a lot of

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Speaker 1: the times a.

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Speaker 3: Year here dangerous.

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Speaker 2: It's dangerous. You freeze to death. A barrel get you.

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Speaker 1: So there's down there, nothing to do, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and thinking about this Cory. So here's round one and

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Speaker 1: thinking about this. I want to set the mood near.

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Speaker 2: Don't be playing turkey videos in your computer right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I need to do another thing.

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Speaker 3: One of the best movies ever.

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Speaker 2: I'm playing Civil War, you know, to set the North

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Speaker 2: South thing.

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Speaker 1: No, what I was gonna do because I can't beat

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Speaker 1: those guys do all their crazy sounds. But here's here's

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Speaker 1: I was sticking this morning. I was sitting there thinking

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Speaker 1: about this, and so I started listening to like, why

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Speaker 1: don't we compare.

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Speaker 2: To what turkey sound like? Ready?

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Speaker 1: Watch, here's a real turkey. You guys know Jay Scott,

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Speaker 1: Jase got outdoors. Okay, here, Jay Scott, here's a real turkey.

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Speaker 1: You can see the turkey in here. Okay, raspy round one. Huh,

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Speaker 1: here's a real turkey. Here's a yankee. Here's a real

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Speaker 2: Now, if that's not phenomenal turkey calling, I don't know

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Speaker 2: Hey, fine with that, Yeah, I need But did you

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Speaker 2: But shot, what do you mean, what's your best shot? Gobble?

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Speaker 4: That would be good of you got a car door

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Speaker 2: You do one? So just wow, Brandon, why do you

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Speaker 6: We just don't have anything in common.

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Speaker 2: Why, yeah, why do you feel that you won't hunt turkeys? Randall?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'd love to hunt turkeys. Oh okay, Uh, how

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Speaker 3: You ever see a turkey walking around when you're spring

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Speaker 6: And I've run after him. I've chased I've traced a

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Speaker 6: just haven't haven't taken that step yet. Okay, maybe if

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Speaker 3: Never want to hunt bears again.

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Speaker 2: That's what I found.

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Speaker 2: Uh in favorite turkeys, I could see that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the thing about turkey hunting you can picture too,

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Speaker 1: I was telling my wife. I was like, after we retire.

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Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I'll make a deal with you.

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Speaker 1: Because she knows that my time is turkey hunting. She's like,

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Speaker 6: Shit, I'd take that right now.

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, yeah, that sounds fun. That's what

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Speaker 1: We'll go to like internet cafes and email our kids.

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Speaker 4: You'll have the deep fat friar on a trailer behind.

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Speaker 2: It up south. Your headed out turkey hunting. Yeah, Monday,

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Speaker 8: So we're going to a guys, we're having some private

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I was wrong about. It's pretty high.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's like you go like one or two counties

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Speaker 2: End of the show. So we're doing the We're doing

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Speaker 2: Jordan's Peace.

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Speaker 9: Krinn, Yeah, we are. It's out on this feed Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Oh it's not just tacked down to this nope. Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: So Jordan Sillers, who joins us now and then on

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Speaker 1: this comes out tomorrow, Jordan has this crazy story.

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Speaker 2: He's been reporting on.

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Speaker 1: It'll be like a special drop podcast episode about a

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Speaker 1: uh true crime, Yeah, about a murder or not. It's

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Speaker 1: shot in the back at daybreak turkey hunting. And you wonder, like, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give too much away, but was

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Speaker 3: he shot with a shotgun?

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Speaker 1: Nope, shot with a rifle. But you can hunt rifles.

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Speaker 1: You could hunt turkeys with a rifle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: His shot in the back lodged into his heart, wasn't it.

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I think the bullet was lodged into his heart. But

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Speaker 1: his face mask was lifted up. H yeah, So did

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Speaker 1: How could you not find who was in the woods

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Speaker 2: Wow? Like a small ass pool of people. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? In this little Turkey hunting area,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's real, real interesting. Jordan didn't some great work

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be. I know you haven't listened to it yet,

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Speaker 1: but it's got to be. It's gotta be that it

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Speaker 2: Are out in front of him. Hmm. A cigarette on.

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Speaker 4: The ground, But it wasn't the No one collected the

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Speaker 4: cigarette and it was Why don't you go ahead and

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Speaker 4: give Jordan's podcast?

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Speaker 6: Let us know what you think?

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Speaker 4: Easy to get hold of, love to hear about it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that what I'm saying is going

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Speaker 1: titillating over here.

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Speaker 6: I'm hooked.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's like, are you like, well not,

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna bother listening now.

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Speaker 6: No, No, I need to find all the I need

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Speaker 6: to know all the details.

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Speaker 4: This day and age. It's just like you go, okay,

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Speaker 4: how many cell phones were in this area right now?

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Speaker 4: We're gonna start there.

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Speaker 2: It'd probably be a great place to start.

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Speaker 4: Right yeah, call on X be like, how many folks

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Speaker 2: Yeah? There was.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this long ago because we were actually

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Speaker 1: to track down a victim of an accidental shooting in

448
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Speaker 1: a hunting incident, but he had died of cancer, even

449
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Speaker 1: though he almost died on the mountain one time hunting.

450
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Speaker 2: But this guy was hunting an Arizona for black bears.

451
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Speaker 2: Do you remember the story now.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's stocking a black bear with his bow and

453
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: he's right above the black bear, and all of a sudden,

454
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: someone from across the canyon shoots at the black bear

455
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Speaker 1: with a rifle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's either weapon season.

457
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Speaker 1: He's stalking it with a bow and someone across the

458
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Speaker 1: canyon shoots at the bear. The shot misses the bear

459
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Speaker 1: and spooks the bear, and the bear spooks.

460
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Speaker 2: Right up through him, right up past him.

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00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: The guy shoots at it again and hits the dude

462
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Speaker 1: in the gut. Jesus bear runs off. The guy lays

463
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Speaker 1: there and the shooter never comes over. He gets up

464
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Speaker 1: to the top of the mountain, makes a call, starts

465
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Speaker 1: trying to drive down, passes out, but they find him

466
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Speaker 1: and save him. The bullet had mostly got absorbed like that,

467
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Speaker 1: got absorbed by his belt buckle, but last rated. His

468
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Speaker 1: insides all up, but he lives. So they're trying to

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Speaker 1: find out who did it. And what they start doing

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Speaker 1: is they the investigator send out surveys to people that

471
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Speaker 1: had bear tags in that unit, where'd you hunt?

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Speaker 2: What days did you hunt?

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Speaker 1: And then did a follow up survey, and eventually they

474
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Speaker 1: had like, oh, this guy was hunting bears that day

475
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Speaker 1: in this area and he was out of state, and

476
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Speaker 1: they sent investigators to the guy's house and when they

477
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Speaker 1: explained him what happened, they, I guess, according to the

478
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Speaker 1: story I heard, they knew he was innocent because when

479
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Speaker 1: they explained him what happened, he vomited like he was

480
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Speaker 1: that upset about it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, had Archie Hunter is all camoed up and he

482
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Speaker 3: just never saw him or something.

483
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Speaker 2: It seems the scenes weird.

484
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Speaker 1: Going to do a thing about it, But like I said,

485
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Speaker 1: the primary guy had passed away young, like died young.

486
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Speaker 4: So kids, go listen to Jordan's thing, follow up on.

487
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Speaker 6: Your shots and wear orange.

488
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Speaker 4: Oh, don't just take pokes a stuff and go, oh,

489
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Speaker 4: doesn't look like I hit it. Walk over there, look

490
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Speaker 4: for blood. Follow up and if it seems like too

491
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Speaker 4: much of a pain in the ass, chances are you're

492
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Speaker 4: shooting too far.

493
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Speaker 2: And if you get over there and there's a dead

494
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Speaker 2: person laying there, make a.

495
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Speaker 4: Call, make a call.

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Speaker 2: Call nine one. Yeah, that's what I think. I don't know.

497
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: When you guys listen, you'll know what to think. Jordan,

498
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: I question this decision. Maybe Quinny can shed light on it.

499
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Speaker 2: He he redacts a lot of names.

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Speaker 1: Why is he redacting all the names? Did that come

501
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: at the recommendation of legal counsel.

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure I could check with him. I don't know.

503
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Speaker 9: You mean, like other names of people who are investigated.

504
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Speaker 1: Like the of the characters kind of surrounding the incident,

505
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: he redacts their names.

506
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Speaker 9: I didn't go into that with him.

507
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Speaker 3: Maybe because it's not being solved.

508
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, could be.

509
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Speaker 9: Sorry, I'm not being very helpful.

510
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: No you're not. What's it called what will it be called?

511
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 9: Called blood trails? Yeah, it's called blood trails.

512
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Speaker 2: Blood trails. So check that out. Twenty year old turkey

513
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Speaker 2: hunting cold case, which Giles seems like could be real solvable.

514
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's just question mark.

515
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: Well I don't want it until our listeners here out. Yes, yeah,

516
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: then one of you may know exactly who it is.

517
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Speaker 2: Check this out the first time.

518
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Speaker 1: So this year I put a thing on Instagram where

519
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Speaker 1: some guys I know, some houndsmen I know who are

520
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: commercial fishermen and Michigan's Upper Peninsula, but in the wintertime

521
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: they like to chase bobcats with dogs and this body

522
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Speaker 1: mind sends me a video from Mackinac County in Michigan's

523
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Speaker 1: Upper Peninsula of a lion, a mountain lion in a

524
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Speaker 1: try in Michigan. After that, the dn R Department Natural Resources.

525
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Speaker 1: They went out and verified like they wanted to see

526
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Speaker 1: where it was and what happened, and they went out

527
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: and verified it right that it was legit, legit location tracks,

528
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: everything made sense, and there's a lion there. And this

529
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Speaker 1: is something that people have long been saying that there

530
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Speaker 1: are lions in the up like how people are saying

531
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Speaker 1: there's lions all over the place.

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Speaker 2: And for the.

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Speaker 1: Longest time, twenty years ago, you had guys way outside

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Speaker 1: of mountain lion territory, way outside of cougar territory would

535
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, I saw a mountain lion.

536
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Speaker 2: And it was always the same thing.

537
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Speaker 1: It was, no, you didn't you saw an escape pet

538
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: right like this idea, that's just like escape mountain lion

539
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: pets running all over the place. You never see like

540
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: actual pet mountain lions, but somehow.

541
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Speaker 2: There are many.

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Speaker 1: Like you never like at your he's like, here's my

543
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: pet mountain line, But somehow there are hundreds of escape

544
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Speaker 1: pets even though no one has like the actual pet

545
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Speaker 1: mountain lion. Like there's a lot of dogs running around

546
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Speaker 1: the woods. There's a lot of dogs in people's houses,

547
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Speaker 1: So it all makes sense.

548
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Speaker 6: Mountain you gotta just be better at escaping.

549
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: You got pet dogs and then you got feral dogs.

550
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: But somehow it's just all faral lions when there's no

551
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Speaker 1: pet lions, but they're all escape pets. Long story short,

552
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Speaker 1: first confirmation in one hundred years in the up in Michigan.

553
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Speaker 2: Two mountain lion kittens in a hundred years verified.

554
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Speaker 9: Verified, but they haven't been seen. Yeah, verified?

555
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 4: But then what was it they haven't yet been hit

556
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Speaker 4: by a car?

557
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, is.

558
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Speaker 3: That the video of them on little ones on the

559
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Speaker 3: side of the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's it's like it's unbelievable.

561
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Speaker 1: So probably like a while ago, one got killed in Connecticut,

562
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Speaker 1: one showed up in Menace, and a lot of times

563
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Speaker 1: this is lions coming out of lions coming out of

564
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Speaker 1: the Black Hills, coming out of western Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: And if you look at it, if you go get.

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Speaker 1: Yourself a map, you can see how that sucker, how

567
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: they're going. You could picture how they're going because they're

568
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Speaker 1: showing up at Michigan's Upper Peninsula. So they're going like

569
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Speaker 1: from the Black Hills across ended Wiscon northern Wisconsin and

570
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Speaker 1: then traveling. And this one that I had the video

571
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Speaker 1: of was in the eastern up, so traveling across the

572
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Speaker 1: top of the up probably like flirting up with Ontario, whatever,

573
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Speaker 1: going across, and it would always be the story is

574
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Speaker 1: like juvenile males will strike out and colonize new territory

575
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Speaker 1: or they'll want their own territory, and so they'll go

576
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Speaker 1: and presumably they go off in these weird ass places

577
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Speaker 1: and never find a mate, and.

578
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: Then they kind of have like they're like a genetic

579
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Speaker 2: dead end.

580
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Speaker 1: Right, So when you find these way out there lions

581
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: that are way out of territory, there's this thing that like, oh,

582
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: it's probably an escape pet. And then if it's not that, like, oh,

583
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: it's some crazy juvenile male that wandered way outside of

584
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: its range, but obviously a female went And then you

585
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: gotta think and that low density, how like how phenomenal

586
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: must they be at finding each other?

587
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: Maybe that like I mean that female might have been

588
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Speaker 3: impregnated in Michigan.

589
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: It's like she.

590
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Speaker 1: Didn't, Like no, I'm sure I would imagine, Yeah, But

591
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: then like, regardless of how low density, like, how do

592
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: they find each other?

593
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: Well?

594
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean it's like you can get dropped

595
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: off in the biggest wilderness ever, right, and be like, oh,

596
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: here's a good way to go find game, and you

597
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: strike out on that trail and you can find a

598
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: boot track of somebody else who did the same thing, Right,

599
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: because it's just like how predators move.

600
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Speaker 2: You get about the ridge side like ship. Yeah, a

601
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: cigarette button, a couple of thirty.

602
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: Six anybody else think of this.

603
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: Right where I was, right where I was gonna walk. Yeah, Yeah,

604
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Speaker 1: it's incredible to think about. But now they're there, I

605
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: bet there's a lot of guys that are pissed. There's

606
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are pissed because you already.

607
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: Have extreme load deer densities.

608
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, lower deer densities, got a lot of wolf problems.

609
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: How would they like, how would they be classified? Like

610
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: if they if a breeding population like gets going in Michigan,

611
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: how are they going to classify.

612
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't know what they e

613
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: condom as.

614
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, just be a non non game species right now.

615
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: But I'm sure they did try to put some sort

616
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: of protect protection on them or or not right, or

617
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: they make the decision that this is just not something

618
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: we're going to deal with.

619
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because man, I don't think you look up try

620
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: someone tried to find it.

621
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you can't just shoot a line in Michigan

622
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: right now.

623
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 4: I probably under the self defense and defensive property rule,

624
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: you could, Oh, if it was messing up or messing

625
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: up your killing your chicken.

626
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean like if you were out running

627
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: bobcasts and you treat a lion, my guess is you

628
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: can't shoot it because how are you looking up what

629
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: the season is? Well, if it's not listed as anything,

630
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: does that mean we'll find out?

631
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Speaker 4: Because if right? Because like State of Wyoming, like they

632
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: have a they have game species, and then they have

633
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: vermints that can shot year round without restrictions.

634
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Speaker 3: They classify they're classified as an endangered species. Shooting them.

635
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: That's probably like a state endangered.

636
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 9: Species, not endangered mammals in Michigan, meaning it's illegal to

637
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 9: hunt or harass them, which includes trying to locate their den.

638
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: My man aways had a good story. Uh you know

639
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: what a fallow deer is. So my dad had a

640
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: spot he was hunting. This was an Illinois. He had

641
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: a spot he was hunting, and there was a big.

642
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 2: Arboretum near there, and they had all these like fallow

643
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: deer sort of as a decoratione on this arbretomy.

644
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 9: Aren't those from overseas.

645
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: They're a Eurasian deer like kind of white and some

646
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: of this some of the fallow deer had gotten off

647
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: the arboretum and we're just running around, and so my

648
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: dad was calling be like can I shoot one of

649
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: these deer or not? And at the time, like what

650
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: they had Illinois had like a wild deer.

651
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: They had a deer. So even in your in your

652
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: rags didn't say like white tailed deer, because like, you

653
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: know what, what are you not trying to draw this?

654
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: It was just a deer. And so he called and

655
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: the best answer they would give him is like it

656
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: says a deer if it's a deer. So he always

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Speaker 2: had this picture of as I should find. He had

658
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Speaker 2: this great grip and grand where he's got his re

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00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: curve and he's got a fallow deer. It was you

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Speaker 2: know what he used to hunt?

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Speaker 9: Man?

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00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: It was funny is and it's a good idea. He

663
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Speaker 1: used to have a spot he'd hunt where he'd get

664
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Speaker 1: on a highway and at some point he'd pulled off

665
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: at a rest area and got the walking around the

666
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Speaker 1: rest area and saw a bunch of deer Signsuse it

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Speaker 1: was like he showed.

668
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: Me it was not too far from where I grew up.

669
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: There's a rest area and it's all just like State

670
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Land area on the highway and then there was cornfields

671
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: up above there, and he would get off at the

672
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: rest area and park kind of like he was at

673
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: the rest area, wait till the coast was clear, and

674
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: then slip up in the woods instead of tree stand

675
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: at the rest area and then get back on the

676
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: highway and go down to the next exit.

677
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: And sneaky little spot, sneak.

678
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: I see a lot of rest areas, and I wonder

679
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: about that. Okay, Seth, you're going hunting.

680
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: We're talking about that. Randall hates turkeys. Talk about that

681
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: tick prevention. I got it. My program is dialed? Wrote

682
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: who wrote?

683
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: I threw that in there?

684
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: What do you do? You do you feel your program

685
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: is dialed?

686
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: No, not at all. It's something I don't think about.

687
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: And tell him on the ground and then I'm like,

688
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: oh man, this is I'm gonna be creeping and crawling.

689
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 4: But I'm all so I don't Yeah, I don't know

690
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: all the normal things. Don't like deep. I'm always like, oh,

691
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get that permethron stuff and that stuff works.

692
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: I take the heavy chemical approach, and I'll tell you.

693
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a little bit about my background.

694
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 9: Don't Inhale that when you breathe it all I mean,

695
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 9: when you spray it all over your Let.

696
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: Me tell you though, I had okay, when my boy

697
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: was three, talk about all the time. When my boy

698
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: was three, he had lime disease, developed Bell's palsy, so

699
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: he developed the facial paralysis. A lot of had a

700
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: lot of problems. I had lime disease and had to

701
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: go through the intravenous antibiotic treatment where they put the

702
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: pick line in your heart and a fucking hose coming

703
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: out of your arm shooting those cylinders. All that shitting

704
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 1: there every day had to be where couldn't ride my bike.

705
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: Had drawn a mountain goat tag and couldn't even hunt

706
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: the tag. I couldn't go down steps without holding the

707
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: handrail driving down the road.

708
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: It messes with your joints so bad.

709
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't rest on the windowsill, I couldn't rest on

710
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: the center console.

711
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: Because it was like just too like excruciating. Okay, So.

712
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: All that what I'm setting up there is like the

713
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: risk of using some chemical stuff isn't as real to

714
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: me as is the risk of getting tickborne pathogenstable.

715
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: It's not, oddly enough, It's the way I take care

716
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: of things and like a big old, deep filled canister

717
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: that erodes through everything once deployed. Like that's my problem

718
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 4: is like it rattles around in the back of the truck. Eventually,

719
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 4: like the cap goes off and it sprays all over everything,

720
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 4: and then you got holes in clothing or a whole

721
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: spool of fishing lines. I've had tackle boxes over the

722
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 4: years that have turned into measure.

723
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: I had it warped. I had one open up on

724
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: a caribou hunt, and I had one open up on

725
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: my phone and actually warped my phone case, like the

726
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: phone case warped.

727
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: So you're not buying the permethrone.

728
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: No, I haven't gotten to my formula yet.

729
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: Oh you're going double formula.

730
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: I do, and it takes. It takes. It takes discipline.

731
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 4: You do take Wood's off.

732
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: I do permethrine on my clothes, and I do it

733
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: like you're supposed to do it. I do it ahead

734
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: of time, like you you know, Like I said, it

735
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: takes discipline, do it ahead of time and let it dry. Okay,

736
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: so I'm not wearing a shit wet and that's how

737
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: they recommend it. So I do all my clothes and permethrone.

738
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Then every morning. This is the painful part. This is

739
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: the part you don't want to do because it's just

740
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: it's annoying. Every morning, I do my ankles and deep,

741
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I do my waistline because of chigger to hate chiggers.

742
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: I do my waistline and deep on on your skin,

743
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: on my skin.

744
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: WHOA, all right?

745
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: I do deep. I plaster my waistline.

746
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: I plaster my ankles and deep, and I got permethrone

747
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: on my clothes. And I'm telling you and I am

748
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: a tick chigger magnet. I have shut that ship down. Wow,

749
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: shut it down.

750
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, hot tip.

751
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: Me and Seth did a bunch of permethrone one time.

752
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: We were watching ticks climb on us and Music Festival.

753
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: When when Sam and I were in Pennsylvania last fall

754
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: woodcock hunting like our buddy's dog had hundreds of deer

755
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: ticks on it like every day, and we were using

756
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: I was using permethrone and it works.

757
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

758
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 8: That's that's an area where when they do tick studies

759
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 8: they typically come back positive.

760
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah. When I got it, I got it.

761
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: Hudson Valley and I think at the time they were

762
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: saying that three quarters of all ticks had the pathogen

763
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: they found.

764
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: I just read they found uh tick in Montana that

765
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: they believe headlines.

766
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: I really don't what kind of tick I had had

767
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: to be a deer tick.

768
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 4: I'll have to stuff they give dogs that always creeps

769
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: me out. Dogs seem to be totally fine, but the

770
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: tick yeah, goes up, bites into the dog and then

771
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: dies and drops off the dog to me and Seth's close,

772
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, what's the human version of that?

773
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've thought about that. I mean, if someone could

774
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 6: invent that from mosquitoes?

775
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: Rich Man. Yeah, chili, how you doing? You're just sitting

776
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: down there? Yeah, I'm just yeah. People are talking. Are

777
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: you gonna turn your chili? I plan on it. Yeah.

778
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 11: I want to go back home, back to the hills

779
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 11: and try to get a tagger. I think my brother

780
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 11: applied it, so if he gets one, I'll probably go

781
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 11: back with him.

782
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: That's where I'd like to go.

783
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: What what what's your program? Not not for ticks, but

784
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: just for those flowing locks you're developing. Is is it

785
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: like a standalone conditioner shampoo.

786
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: Made and tail baby horse shampoo? Yeah?

787
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't even need water with that?

788
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: Well you don't?

789
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 4: You just throw it on there, murder on outside.

790
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: Let it dry.

791
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: He's the only guy if I if you had to

792
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: get a permit to have long hair, He's the only

793
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: bad issue the permit.

794
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: I think I've told a few people this story.

795
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 11: I cut my hair, I think once since working here,

796
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 11: and I cut it like I trimmed up the mustache,

797
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 11: cut the hairy real short.

798
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: And uh.

799
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 11: I went to the store and Steve was sitting on

800
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 11: the couch in the store and he's working on his laptop,

801
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 11: and he just slowly turns to me, looks at me

802
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 11: and goes, it's a bad move, dude.

803
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I guess I've never come to.

804
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: Harry Jili needs to look free. So that's oh.

805
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna bring our ticks when we

806
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: were watching I don't know if you remember this, Seth,

807
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: me and Seth are sitting watching ticks crawling our clothes

808
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: and fall off like they'd pass out.

809
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're sitting there.

810
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: Here comes to have Alina. Do you remember this? Here

811
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: comes to have Alina walking along. Guess what the have

812
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Aalena's feeding on I'm not kidding you, man, he is

813
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: feeding on turkey shit.

814
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: Just one ship one shit after the other.

815
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 2: Just we're just sitting there, real store.

816
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: He just comes along and every time he'd find one

817
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: of the little turkey ship, he'd stop and pick it up.

818
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: And he was like targeting turkey ships.

819
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 3: Smacking his cheeks together.

820
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: I have a video of it. It's pretty smacking his

821
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: lips eating turkey shit.

822
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 9: La. That was in Texas. You guys are going back

823
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 9: we are week or week after right?

824
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: Okay? Who knows about the South Carolina turkey deal? What

825
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: is this? Now?

826
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: I talked with some folks on this one last week,

827
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: actual you know, biologists in that state.

828
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: No, man, I'm looking now. I didn't know about this.

829
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 4: Well, but here here's the weird thing. Okay, So this

830
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: would change the regulations or it already has changed the

831
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: regulations for the twenty twenty five season to where it

832
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: would no longer be legal to shoot Jake's immature Tom's.

833
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: It's cut back on my turkey harvest.

834
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 4: So that puts the onus on the hunter to identify

835
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: a wow Tom that has a beard longer than six

836
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: inches and a full tail fan.

837
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: So it's the combination, right, because a lot of full

838
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: on gobblers don't have a six inch beard.

839
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, and so you're like, well, why would you

840
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 4: take that opportunity away from people? Which was my question.

841
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: But and this is the frustrating part is it's like

842
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: because your brain kind of goes to like, well, is

843
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 4: it like a trophy thing, like trying to make make

844
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: bigger birds, which makes no sense in like the.

845
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: Longbeards, it is the time of the year.

846
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: They're not changing the season of their turkey hunt. What

847
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: they're trying to do by adding this regulation is to

848
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: provide more time for those birds to breed. Hmmm, who

849
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 4: to breed for the for By making people select for

850
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: the toms and pass up these other birds, they're allowing

851
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: more time for breeding, which to which I responded was like, well,

852
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 4: why don't you just adjust the whole season dates?

853
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Well, I remember Abernathy talking about this, or there's in

854
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina him talking about that this this push pull

855
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: between start and turkey season so early, right, and guys

856
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: thinking that they're starting it too early, and the the

857
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 1: there's a lot of these lot of turkey bio just like, dude,

858
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: hunt turkeys as long as you want, don't start early. Yeah,

859
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: and some state like if you steal a day, steal

860
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: a day up front, give them two days.

861
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 3: On the other end, right, plenty of estates are doing

862
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: that well.

863
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: Idaho, Montana. The folks have talked to you. They're like,

864
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: there's no essentially no breeding going on. By the time

865
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: turkey season has started in Idaho or Montana, like it's

866
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 4: the bulk of the bell curve of the breeding is

867
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: completely done.

868
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're still snow on the ground April fifteenth.

869
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: They're saying that the hens have been bred.

870
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 3: What really, I'm not buying that.

871
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, don't question.

872
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: Man. They're banning killing Jake's yes, wow, Yeah.

873
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: Which is just that, like it's like not being able

874
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: to kill Spike Elk, Like sometimes that Jake saves the

875
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: day here.

876
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: Like I understand you're trying to preserve quality of hunt

877
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: so and like it doesn't make any sense that you'd say, Okay,

878
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: I got an idea, no one can kill a long beard.

879
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: People would revolt.

880
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: You're right, But I wonder if the objective was, like

881
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: if you're true objective was to preserve like age class

882
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: breeding turkeys, if that was the true soul objective, it

883
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: would probably make you'd probably end up saying, no, shoot

884
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: all the jakes you want, don't shoot long beards.

885
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot more jags.

886
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: But people would freak out.

887
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: I would freak out, as we know here in Montana.

888
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: If you go out opening week and you're like, god,

889
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 4: there's a lot of jakes around. Go back to the

890
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: same spot last week of the season, You're like, oh

891
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: my god, there's so many toms around you. Magically, there's

892
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: so many toms where there used to be so many jakes.

893
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: Looks like they also out loud. Uh fanning and reaping

894
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: on on private.

895
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Scannie, you can't fan and reap. No, you

896
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: can't fan in Michigan or Skan.

897
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: Anymore after a few years ago.

898
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: No idea.

899
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: So for you folks at home, what we're talking about

900
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: is there was a There is a strategy. It is

901
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: a deadly at times, a deadly turkey hunting strategy is

902
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: picture picture yourself. You drive down the road and you

903
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: come through old old man Morgenson's uh pasture pasture, and

904
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: lo and.

905
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: Behold ten am on a Monday morning.

906
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: There's just a giant gobbler out there with a couple hens,

907
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: and he's just strutting his ass off out in the middle.

908
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: Out in the middle. You're never gonna call him in.

909
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: He's you're never gonna like call him over to the edge.

910
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: If you crawl out there, he's gonna run away.

911
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: Well what do you do, Well, you get a big

912
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: old Turkey fan and you lay down on your belly

913
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: and you army crawl holding that Turkey fan up.

914
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: And there's a high likelihood, if you play your cards right,

915
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: you will just crawl right up to.

916
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: That turble or he'll come running straight out and come

917
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: running to you. And then you just stick your shot

918
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: on which I have done. You actually snake your barrel

919
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: through the feathers and kind of rest rested on the fan.

920
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: It is deadly effective. Guys are even taking it to

921
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: the point.

922
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: I remember there these dudes that are all over on

923
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: social media and everybody always has a conniption.

924
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: But they make a hat, a Turkey fan hat. Whoa yeah,

925
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: and so it's like a.

926
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: Little army helmet and they crawl around with a Turkey

927
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: fan hat. Now people will look at this and bring

928
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: up the very obvious point, what if someone shoots that thing?

929
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: And if you haven't brought up this point, listen to

930
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: Jordan Siller's new podcast Yeah about guy getting shot in

931
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: the turkey ones.

932
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: It's not only deadly for the turkey. Yeah, and then

933
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: you can, like in Wyoming, hunt turkeys of a rifle.

934
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: Can you still have them with the rifle? In Florida?

935
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: I remember they tried to get rid of it for

936
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: a while. Uh it could be you know, was it Abernathy?

937
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: They get we've had a couple of guys out of

938
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: and got shot hunting turkeys. I think, yeah, Abernathy got

939
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: shot hunting turkeys. I know guys in Pennsylvania got shot Abernathy.

940
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: He lifted his foot up to rest it on a stump,

941
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: and the guy shot his leg. I think it was Abernathy.

942
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: And then he's the guy said in interviewing his shooter.

943
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: He said, man, when you put your leg up on

944
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: that stump, looks just like a time going into strut.

945
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 9: Guys got some vision problems.

946
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 8: I wonder, I wonder if there's been any sort of

947
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 8: studies done on like trying to figure out what it is.

948
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 8: It's like triggers something in their brain that like takes

949
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 8: over a turkey's body.

950
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 4: The competition, man, I mean, that's all. That's what it's

951
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: got to be. Plus well, when the floors to man,

952
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 4: they are I don't think they're ever like more exposed

953
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: than when they're in struct right, so they you know,

954
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 4: they completely block themselves from having almost three hundred and

955
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: sixty degree vision.

956
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's a great chance to lift your gun

957
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: up so that when he turns because he can't see you.

958
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

959
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 4: Yeah. But outside of that, so it's basically signaling to

960
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: all other birds. Not only is it AOK, but there's

961
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: like some hot hen action over here too, and I.

962
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 3: Think you might be in a fighting mood.

963
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 4: I think that's the combination of things, right, It's like

964
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: it's a signal that it's totally safe, no predators around,

965
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: and something really good good's happening, and that's like the combination.

966
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: I just can't resist it.

967
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was. I was deer hunting in Idaho one time,

968
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 6: and it was a limited.

969
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: Damn sure, weren't turkyng No, that's true, that's true. But

970
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: it was a limited, limited bull elk unit.

971
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 6: And we actually met a tag holder earlier that day.

972
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 6: They were hunting down the ridge from us, and we

973
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 6: found a big bowl and we went and told him,

974
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 6: you know, it was bowl over here, and we we

975
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 6: sort of got set up to watch the bowl and

976
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 6: they popped out one of those like cow elk foldable decoys,

977
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 6: walked straight to the thing. It was like on a

978
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 6: big open hillside. We were on a big open hillside

979
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 6: and there's a little ridge between us. They walked straight

980
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 6: towards that bowl until they could get out of sight,

981
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 6: and then put the cow decoy down and shot the bowl.

982
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: Hmm. And I I've never been more nervous in my

983
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: life that someone was gonna fill a cow tag on them.

984
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I don't think there were any cow tags.

985
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 6: Like I kind of asked them about it. I was like,

986
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 6: you know, are you sure there's not cow tags here?

987
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 6: And are you sure that someone's not gonna mistake a

988
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 6: branch behind you or anything for an antler? Like I

989
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 6: just don't trust other people out there. But I've always

990
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 6: been curious about it because it worked real well. Yeah,

991
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 6: but like, yeah, it was kind of put the ice

992
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 6: in my veins a little bit.

993
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

994
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: Reaping is one of those things I would never send

995
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: my kid out to do. Yeah, because you it'd be like,

996
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, because just picture the news article.

997
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: It's just additional risk, risk verse.

998
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: Reward, Yeah, and you'd be like, man, people would be

999
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: mad at you.

1000
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: He did what.

1001
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: So you already couldn't in South Carolina in public, Now

1002
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: you can't on private. I think this is going to

1003
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: be my prediction when I crystal ball this, I get

1004
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be more and more.

1005
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: And more and more common.

1006
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1007
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I would advise, Uh, I don't want

1008
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: to blame the victim here. In the meantime, I would

1009
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: advise people as we head out into the Turkey woods

1010
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: to spring, just don't shoot at random tail fans or

1011
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: random movement.

1012
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1013
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 6: Kind of one of the first rules of gun safety.

1014
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about it a minute before shooting at fans

1015
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: because it might be a it might be a reaper.

1016
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: Maybe think about think about where you reap too.

1017
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not it's just not especially at the public.

1018
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: It's just not that smart. They give a definition.

1019
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Fanny or reaping is the practice of stalking a wild

1020
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: turkey while hiding behind a decoy or tail fan, or

1021
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: an image or likeness of a tail fan, applied to

1022
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: any material I would carry.

1023
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: I kind of quit. I didn't really carry it last year.

1024
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: I used to carry in my turkey vest, I carried

1025
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: a fan. And if you cut a fan, right, there's

1026
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: a way to cut it off the turkey where you

1027
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: can fold it out like a pack of cards. Then

1028
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: it'll fold up real nice.

1029
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: I would lay it out and I had a little handle,

1030
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: even I had like a formal little handle, and I

1031
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: had a way you could open it up. And I

1032
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: had two wing nuts on a handle. So when you

1033
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: put the when you put the bolts, you put these

1034
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: two little bolts through the fan. It would hold the

1035
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: fan open. Throw a couple of wing nuts on there,

1036
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: and it was meant to be my crawler arounder never

1037
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: got shot.

1038
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 6: But you've stopped carrying it.

1039
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: I did.

1040
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I did, yeah, not wanting to get shot.

1041
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: And then also I feel like some of the places

1042
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: I hunt you can't do it. You can still do

1043
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: it Montana though.

1044
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1045
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: Texas, here's a Texas turkey hunting rule. This isn't terribly

1046
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: earth shattering. Hunters must report harvest within twenty four hours

1047
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: for all wild turkeys in all counties.

1048
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: What did it used to be?

1049
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 9: I don't think you had a report. I just found

1050
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 9: that this morning.

1051
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to report. Sorry, I think you had

1052
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: to report.

1053
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 9: Maybe they shortened the time. When I went to the

1054
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 9: state website, I didn't see what it was before. Are

1055
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 9: they collecting data with that or they just want to

1056
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 9: know if you're shot on?

1057
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's absolutely waiting. See how many birds

1058
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 4: got squatted that year? Yeah, yeah, I don't ever recalled, Yeah,

1059
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 4: submitting a report for killing a turkey in Texas.

1060
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: Here's a Florida rule coming up, or Florida. This is

1061
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: a your cow talk about this Florida deal.

1062
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 4: What's the Florida deal?

1063
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: The no nrs the first three days of the season.

1064
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 4: Oh, no non residents for turkey three days. So this

1065
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: is a good example of states watching other states do stuff.

1066
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 4: And I think South Dakota was the first one to

1067
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: be like the opening week of pheasant is for resident

1068
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 4: only unless you have private property access, I think I believe.

1069
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: So.

1070
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so all all the public stuff is off limits

1071
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: to non residence and I know Montana actually has a

1072
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: bill where they're considering a version of that as well.

1073
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 4: North Dakota just went that way, I think, and those

1074
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 4: that's for upland bird species. But here's a version of it,

1075
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: first one that I'm aware of in the turkey hunting world.

1076
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, give all the residents first crack at those

1077
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 4: times that really like to come out and straut and

1078
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: rub it in your face. Mm hmm.

1079
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

1080
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: I don't.

1081
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: I don't know that's anything to get up in arms about.

1082
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 2: I can't.

1083
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean I don't as a non as a Florida

1084
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: non resident, I don't like it, right, But I have

1085
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: to be honest about why I don't like it. Because

1086
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: it's inconvenient to me. Yeah, I mean it's essentially inconvenient

1087
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: to me. But that's not how you can make You

1088
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: can't use that as the way to make rules.

1089
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: It's three days of a five week season. Like, I

1090
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: think it's okay to give residents a little little bone. There.

1091
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: A guy that sent a guy sent me this article

1092
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: and he's like, is it the end of turkey hunting

1093
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: in Florida?

1094
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: You know it's a bubber. I mean, if you're a

1095
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: non resident, it's a bubber. But I mean, like, dude,

1096
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: if I was going to make a list of every

1097
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: advantage residents have over non residents, I couldn't find.

1098
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: A piece of paper long enough. Yeah, you get to

1099
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: write it out on toilet paper.

1100
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it does not get me all up

1101
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 4: in a tissy, but.

1102
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: But man, if I was if I was a resident,

1103
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: I'd be licking my lips, dude. I like, listen, if

1104
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: they came in in this state and said, hey, you know,

1105
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: from now on first three days the elk season, or

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00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: residence only first three days a deer season, residents only, anything, anything,

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: I'd be like sweet, because with a lot of stuff,

1108
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: with a lot of hunting rules, it winds up being it.

1109
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: You know. I tried, like, I don't know if I

1110
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: don't make sense. I've always thought there's certain there's some

1111
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: things that are like moral, you know, and there's some

1112
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: things that don't have.

1113
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: A moral component. They just have a it's just like

1114
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: a strategic component. Like you can't get morally upset about it.

1115
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't view this as a moral thing. This is

1116
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: just like a luck or not. It's like lucky or

1117
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: not lucky. It's unlucky for non residency.

1118
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: I think in Florida cap non resident turkey tags at

1119
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: like ten percent.

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00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1121
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: I think they might.

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00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: Is it like the way Montana caps with the caps

1123
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 4: and quotations caps and quotations, Yeah, I have no idea.

1124
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: What do you mean by the caps and quotation Well.

1125
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: There's this idea that the math is as simple as

1126
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 4: it sounds of like, well, yeah, there can only be

1127
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: ten percent of all tags going to non residence per region,

1128
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: but it's it's per opportunity.

1129
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: What what's that mean.

1130
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: It means that for every opportunity in that reg book,

1131
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 4: doze cows, bulls bucks, there's ten percent of every opportunity

1132
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: available to non residents. And then if there's leftover opportunities,

1133
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 4: they they're open to whoever wants those leftover opportunities.

1134
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 6: And there's ways there's certain categories of tags available to

1135
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 6: non residents that don't count against that ten percent, Like

1136
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 6: if you have like to come home to hunt program,

1137
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 6: that doesn't count. Yeah, or the like the Montana I

1138
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 6: think they called Montana natives, So if you're born in

1139
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 6: Montana but live out of state, that doesn't count.

1140
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: I think like.

1141
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 6: The college students that are here, like there, they've created

1142
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 6: all these carve outs that don't count against that ten

1143
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 6: percent number.

1144
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm not sure what happens if if you

1145
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 4: are specific Yeah, if you're specifically going with an outfitter,

1146
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: I'm not sure where that lands either, but.

1147
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's it's not a hard cap, yeah.

1148
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1149
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: And then like a state like Idaho, who's like same

1150
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 4: kind of rules. Right, there's like a whole landowner pool

1151
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: and a whole outfitter pool. And the math doesn't ever

1152
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 4: really work in the way that we think it does,

1153
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: kind of like the national debt.

1154
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: There is a uh, cal we're gonna talk where you

1155
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: get We're to have you talk about another We're in

1156
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: a minute, we're jumping around for state and state.

1157
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: Do we do? We want to talk about the California thing?

1158
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: Is it too complicated?

1159
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: We should find out what happens?

1160
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: It is pretty easy. So marine protected areas okay, of

1161
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 4: which many exist in the state of California, with various

1162
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: states of protections within an m P a marine protect

1163
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: protected area, going from you can still do fishing and

1164
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 4: recreation to you can't have a boat in their type

1165
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 4: of spectrum right and and no take of wildlife.

1166
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: And do they move around right like they open one.

1167
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: Well, that that's an idea. That's that started at at

1168
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: the beginning of the m P a idea. Now we're

1169
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: in the decatal review period of time, and that's where

1170
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 4: like the crazy politics come in because it started as

1171
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 4: this like, oh, this is going to get done really quick,

1172
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: and there's only a couple of people on the Marine

1173
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 4: Fisheries Commission that are going to take care of the

1174
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: whole thing. And people once they started to learn what

1175
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: was at stake and all the proposals to expand MPAs

1176
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 4: and have like the most serious restrictions like no voting,

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01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 4: no fishing, then they were like, oh no, no, this is

1178
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 4: a big deal. So now the amount of people paying

1179
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 4: attention is a lot larger. So it's like the full

1180
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 4: Marine Fisheries Commission versus just just two members of the Commission.

1181
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's a huge access just flat out access

1182
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 4: to the ocean issue. And it's a huge, huge access

1183
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: to to fishing and food issue too, and it and

1184
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 4: it yeah, runs the gamut of like, you know, are

1185
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 4: we protecting the visual like the property values of very

1186
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 4: wealthy homeowners. Are we doing so at the degradation of

1187
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: marginalized community's ability to go fish? Are we There's all

1188
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 4: sorts of things that this gets into, But where we're

1189
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 4: at right now is you can still comment on mp as.

1190
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 4: There's a lot of petitions out there, and it is

1191
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 4: not going to get solved anytime real soon. But you

1192
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 4: need to be aware that a lot of access and

1193
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 4: fishing opportunity sometimes even like surfing opportunity is at stake

1194
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: right now in the state of California. I went and

1195
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: dove a walk in spot last year out of big

1196
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 4: sur and it was freaking gorgeous and fairly I mean,

1197
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure some people would think it's fairly dangerous, like

1198
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 4: it's right next to like a juvenile white shark area

1199
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 4: and really cool spot. But that spot that nobody was

1200
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 4: down there using except for us, is would be a

1201
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 4: place that would be closed to expand a marine protected

1202
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 4: area really.

1203
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: So basically all you could do is walk up and

1204
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 3: down the beach and nothing else.

1205
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: With like the most extreme level of NPA like public

1206
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 4: access beaches, right, Yeah.

1207
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: I think they should ban everything butt fishing.

1208
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing is, there's all sorts of

1209
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 4: arguments here of like, well, we want to protect areas

1210
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: for kelt because the kelp forests have been in such

1211
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 4: crazy as you decline, but there's no evidence to suggest

1212
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: that MPAs have helped kelp at all. The fishing argument,

1213
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's fishing regulations, not necessarily mp as, that

1214
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 4: are gonna have a factor in in the health of

1215
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 4: your fishery. So it's it's really interesting, but it is

1216
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 4: like your your public opportunity that's at stake there, so

1217
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 4: you need need to get engaged. And like California b

1218
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 4: h A has been really good on this as well

1219
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 4: as what is Matt Bonds All waters dot Org. Those

1220
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: those folks have been really good on this and they're

1221
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: putting out great information. Uh, and they're getting people to

1222
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 4: all of these meetings. So connect, connect with one of

1223
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 4: those groups and learn more and see where you fit in.

1224
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 3: Who are the people that are pushing for it.

1225
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you with a bunch of quotes ready.

1226
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: This is all quotes from the meeting one of the

1227
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: meetings about this Laguna Beach expansion. Someone says, the current

1228
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: MPa in Laguna is a ten mile fishing closure. Wow,

1229
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: ten mile fishing closure, so they already got a ten

1230
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: mile closure, this guy is saying at the meeting. He says,

1231
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: the current MPa in Laguna is a ten mile fishing closure,

1232
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: significantly impacting our fishing area, not just for us, but

1233
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: for all local fishing boats as well as lobster fishermen.

1234
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: While we have all.

1235
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: Supported the existing MPa in Laguna Beach and have adapted

1236
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: to that closure, over time, we remained opposed to any

1237
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: further expansion, and really we were very shocked to even

1238
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 1: see this proposal at all. Someone in favor of it says,

1239
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: this extent extension is a crucial step towards strengthening marine protection,

1240
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: preserving biodiversity, and ensuring the long term health of our

1241
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: coastal ecosystems. A guy, another guy had this to say,

1242
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: we just want to make it simple for people that

1243
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: this is a no fishing zone. There's plenty other places

1244
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: to fish. That's a guy at the meeting. Another guy

1245
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: at the meeting.

1246
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: We'd like to have one little section of coastline where

1247
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: we can still enjoy ourselves, go fish and catch stuff

1248
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: and dive and have a good time.

1249
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the proposed extension would make Laguna Beaches southern

1250
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: coast completely off limits to fishing.

1251
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: Another guy at the meeting.

1252
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: Don't take another healthy thing away from us, and don't

1253
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 1: take food out of people's mouths, and so like.

1254
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: That quote of like, oh, there's plenty other places to fish, right,

1255
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: Like that's a great example of It's like, well are

1256
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 4: those places available to who just folks with a big,

1257
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: fancy boat, And it's this coastal access component that people

1258
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 4: are really you know, because there's so many people go

1259
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 4: out and fish on the piers, but that type of

1260
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 4: fish is not necessarily for everybody, right And yeah, So

1261
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 4: lots of lots of arguments here, and they've made a

1262
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 4: lot of good, like grassroots steps into making sure a

1263
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 4: lot of these other communities with the vested interest in

1264
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 4: fishing and public access are actually getting a seat at

1265
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 4: the at the table, which is great. O.

1266
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: Can we return for a minute. This this this turkey

1267
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: thing the South Carolina sorry, the Florida deal. Oh yeah,

1268
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: proposed draft to rule language.

1269
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So the point of this was that you can

1270
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: let your voice be heard, and you could. You could

1271
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: here's an email address, commissioners at my FWC dot com.

1272
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: But would you this is just a question, would you

1273
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: feel funny as a dude from another state writing the

1274
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: Wildlife commissioners in Florida?

1275
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 2: Given your two cents, anybody can take the survey.

1276
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 4: There you go.

1277
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: So here's a there's someone drafted a note here, a

1278
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: guy that wrote us into us drafted away. Here's some

1279
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: things you could say in voicing your concerns. You can

1280
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: talk about wild turkey populations in Florida are not in jeopardy. Okay,

1281
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: talk about there's no there's no concern for the resource.

1282
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: Hunter satisfaction was reported as good or excellent by sixty

1283
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: three percent of surveyed participants.

1284
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, non residents funded over half of

1285
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: all turkey related license costs. But they're only twenty two

1286
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 2: percent of participating hunters. Okay, So half of the funding

1287
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: for licenses came from twenty two percent of the hunters,

1288
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: and residents are already gobbling up ninety percent of special

1289
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: turkey hunt opportunities gobbling up. That was good? Did I

1290
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: just make that up? I did make that up.

1291
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 8: I mean.

1292
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: Something's in the air, spring thunder neurovirus.

1293
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I have that right now. So, yeah,

1294
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: you can still let your voice be heard. But I

1295
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: would feel very very funny writing in being like as

1296
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: it because you're kind of like, uh, you kind of

1297
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: like like all your cards around the table. You're like, hey,

1298
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, as a non president, like, how many dudes

1299
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: from out of state are writing in to say I

1300
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: think this sounds like a fantastic idea.

1301
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 6: I think the first three days should be for non residents.

1302
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that. I got a counter proposal. How

1303
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: about I just get to hunt for three days? Yeah, cal,

1304
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,919
Speaker 1: what's habitat Montana?

1305
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: What's up with that? This is we're doing? We're this

1306
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: is nothing to do with turkeys.

1307
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 4: Hey yeah. So basically habitat Montana it's a big.

1308
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: Fund, kind of rupt real quick, Yes, sir, Bdy, watch

1309
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: you dump all the weeds out.

1310
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: I didn't dump that out.

1311
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 9: Pass it over, spell out. I would love to have

1312
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 9: some more.

1313
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 3: Serving up on that.

1314
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 4: Steve, rub your hands all over that stuff.

1315
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 9: So we're just passing it.

1316
01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,480
Speaker 2: I was contagious.

1317
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 3: It's good on at salmon as a little seasoning.

1318
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 9: Gave me the scraps from there.

1319
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, habitat Montana.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Barnett, there's the other thing here. Anyway, habitat Montana

1321
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 4: is a habitat fund, right, it's set aside specifically to

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 4: address are like state parks maintenance funding for habitat work

1323
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 4: that can address like non game species specifically. So it's

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 4: it's nice to have that because then you know your

1325
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 4: hunter angler dollars. You're like, oh yeah, that's just gonna

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01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 4: go more towards game species and access easements as well. Right,

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 4: So like getting habitat easements on working timber lands or

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: agriculture ground so it doesn't get developed and gobbled up

1329
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 4: and turned into something non wildlife producing. This is something

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty I think we voted on. It's it's

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 4: really the reason that there's like recreational marijuana sales in

1332
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 4: Montana because they tied the taxes associated with the sale

1333
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 4: of recreational marijuana to this big outdoor habitat recreation fund

1334
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 4: called Habitat Montana got it. It got whittled away at

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01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 4: a little bit because obviously people were like, oh my gosh,

1336
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 4: that's a lot of weed money out there we could

1337
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 4: use for all sorts of things. So the last legislative

1338
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 4: session some cash got carved out of it, and now

1339
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 4: we have house built three oh seven. That's happening right now.

1340
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 4: It's in play right now in the state of Montana.

1341
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: Just looking at scan the whole thing, it.

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01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,879
Speaker 4: Would basically suck Philly.

1343
01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 9: You know.

1344
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 4: What's that great movie that we used to laugh about,

1345
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 4: the I Take a straw and.

1346
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, exactly have you seen drink milk?

1347
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 4: I'm a weed man.

1348
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: Associated there's like a spoof on it called there Will

1349
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: Be Bud. They do the whole trailer on a campus,

1350
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: and it's all like a guy trying to gobble up

1351
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: the weed market on a campus and he's like.

1352
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: I clear your bong rip.

1353
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 4: Which is very appropriate because we're dealing with weed money here, right.

1354
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 4: So anyway, voters Montana came came together and said this

1355
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 4: is what we want, got whittled the way last session,

1356
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 4: and now in this session it's going. If HB three

1357
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 4: oh seven were to pass, it would remove this funding.

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: To what end, to use it for something different, to

1359
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: use it.

1360
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 4: For something different, which it doesn't really even we don't

1361
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 4: even need to talk about because the state's operating at

1362
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 4: a surplus right now, so there's lots of money that

1363
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 4: could be used. This is money that's earmarked for habitat

1364
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 4: And then we put it in the context of what's

1365
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 4: happening with the federal government right now with the funding

1366
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 4: freezes and the fact that there is a huge question

1367
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 4: mark around federal funding that is typically available for habitat

1368
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 4: work like this state fund is very important. We're seeing

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01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 4: a huge increase in the population here in Montana and

1370
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 4: a huge increase of the overall population that is using

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 4: state lands in weed and weed apparently, Yeah, so.

1372
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: We need it I'll try to explain a little bit

1373
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,440
Speaker 1: this to our day to someone. We're having a conversation

1374
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: about state funding mechanisms, and I'm like, with the FEDS

1375
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: kind of setting the clock back to eighteen ninety five

1376
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: in terms of attitude towards natural resources, this is going

1377
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: to become even more important.

1378
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 4: More important, and we're just seeing increased use too. So yeah,

1379
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 4: it's it's a bummer that some folks think that this

1380
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: is a good idea right now. Recent polling data says

1381
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,839
Speaker 4: seventy one percent of Montana households use public lands and trails,

1382
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 4: and this is our only like state funding mechanism set

1383
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 4: aside to address this stuff, and it's been like wildly

1384
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 4: successful the way it's been used so far. We completely

1385
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 4: eliminated the state park's maintenance backlog out of this fund.

1386
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,959
Speaker 4: So instead of you, like you're hunting in angling dollars

1387
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 4: going to things that probably folks in this room don't

1388
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: use quite as much as as the retirees out there.

1389
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 4: We kind of like the fact that our hunting and

1390
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 4: angling dollars are addressing the things that we want, not

1391
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 4: some of the things that are being addressed in this

1392
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 4: habitat for Montana fund.

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: You know, what would be helpful to a citizen such

1394
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: as myself is whenever you see a proposal like we're

1395
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: I was covering like proposals, Let you know, there should

1396
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: be a way that you know, like there should be

1397
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: a a graphic that goes with proposals, and it'd be

1398
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: like the fire risk.

1399
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: Because you know, like like there ared is that that some.

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,440
Speaker 1: Gal from Florida introduces legislation to put like Trump on

1401
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore. Okay, okay, So what it would be

1402
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: is that graphic would be there, and the graphic would

1403
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: be like at all the way to the left, meaning

1404
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: this will never happen, do I mean like it's like

1405
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: it's someone just doing a thing to well in that case,

1406
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just someone being like a sycophant, right,

1407
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: They're like they're like doing a gesture like hey, look

1408
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: look at me. Look how loyal I am? You know,

1409
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: and it's not serious, like it's not gonna happen. Yeah,

1410
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: it's not serious. Like a lot of Peda's work, Yeah,

1411
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: like Pete stuff like oh yeah, here's a billboard, here's

1412
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: a bill to ban people from being able to say

1413
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: you got your your cart before the horse or whatever,

1414
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, like to ban any kind of animal expression.

1415
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: So if you could just be at home and see

1416
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: a bill and it would just tell you, or there's

1417
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: an app you could scare. You could like take a

1418
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: photo of legal language and the app would be like,

1419
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: this is like a not thing. This is a non thing.

1420
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: It's someone, it's a gesture. It's someone trying to make headlines.

1421
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't burn your brain thinking about this.

1422
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 6: It happens. It happens on both sides that someone will

1423
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 6: introduce some sort of frivolous legislation and then you see

1424
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 6: a bunch of headlines about it because the people on

1425
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 6: the other side, I want to bash that idea publicly,

1426
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 6: and it's like, oh, let's just pay attention to more

1427
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 6: serious things, right.

1428
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 4: It just sucks the bandwidth out of there.

1429
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 2: And then that's when you hear people be like, now

1430
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: they're trying to do you know what I mean.

1431
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, like Peter does stuff just to get

1432
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,959
Speaker 1: like Peta does things just to egg.

1433
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 3: On and hopefully get a headline.

1434
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, to egg people on.

1435
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and so they'll do a thing like

1436
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: this has zero chance in hell, but they'll do it

1437
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: because also in there they are in the headlines, and

1438
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: it was like that that Mount Rushmore thing, you know,

1439
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: it's funny.

1440
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 2: I looked up and I was trying to picture Mount Rushmore.

1441
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: I was like, would you put it on the right

1442
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 2: lookers right or lookers left? But j'all just say this.

1443
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 6: You can't room.

1444
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: There's no like, no this the rock's not suitable kind

1445
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: of someone's got to go.

1446
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 4: This is this is what I was looking for, Just

1447
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 4: so folks know it's not just here in Montana. Like,

1448
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 4: if you recreate Montana, you live here right in. Ask

1449
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 4: your state representative to vote no or even a no vote,

1450
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 4: but to vote no on HB three oh seven. We

1451
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 4: need dedicated habitat funding. That's the only thing that we

1452
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,879
Speaker 4: have right now. But over in Wisconsin there's a similar

1453
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:33,440
Speaker 4: bill that would would basically stop the Noles Nelson Stewardship program,

1454
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 4: which was created in nineteen eighty nine. People are really

1455
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 4: organized and aware of this one, including Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever,

1456
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 4: the Safari Club have all come together to make sure

1457
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 4: the Noles Nelson Stewardship program is renewed. And there's some

1458
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 4: lawmakers over there that are saying that they're going to

1459
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 4: stop it because it's just funding that they don't think

1460
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 4: should exist.

1461
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 3: But is there is there examples in other states where

1462
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: where the like funds like these weed tax funds or

1463
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 3: like lottery sales where that that were dedicated towards public lands, wildlife,

1464
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 3: et cetera, where they've been raided and put elsewhere.

1465
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 4: Oh, I think there's there's a ton of examples. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1466
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 4: I mean like look at look at the state of Missouri.

1467
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 4: Missouri is considered to have like a phenomenal wildlife funding

1468
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 4: mechanism because they have an actual state tax right but

1469
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 4: literally the year after that tax was implemented, there were

1470
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 4: people trying to shut that thing down. And every year

1471
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 4: people attempt to divert funds from you know what many

1472
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: people consider to be like one of the best wildlife

1473
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 4: programs in the US, but an another one. New Mexico

1474
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 4: has like a sovereign wealth fund that's taxes out of energy,

1475
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 4: which is a fund that renews itself and grows, and

1476
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 4: then that funding basically secures or is secure for like

1477
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 4: their school programs, So that that'd be a version of

1478
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 4: what this habitat for Montana fund is that is successful.

1479
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 1: So that's baked into the Restoration Wildlife factor, the Pittman

1480
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: Robertson Fund. They baked into it language and it's called

1481
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: like so and so's twenty.

1482
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: Words or something like that.

1483
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: Right, there's like a name for it where it's excuse.

1484
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: Me that it's like it's written into the rule that

1485
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: you can't pillage it.

1486
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because anytime someone sees a little pot of money,

1487
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: they want to go get it.

1488
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 6: And I'm not sure about Missouri, but like at least

1489
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 6: in Montana, I mean that was part of the that's

1490
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 6: like what people voted on, like we're gonna do weed,

1491
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 6: but the weed money is going to go here, you know.

1492
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 6: And I believe that the same is true of the

1493
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 6: sales tax in Missouri. Is that like it was? Wasn't

1494
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 6: it a public Yeah?

1495
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 4: Total bipartisan Yeah, And it's like this is part of

1496
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 4: the deal, and then as soon as as soon as

1497
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 4: people get on the same page, somebody else is trying

1498
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 4: to do the run around behind the back and spend

1499
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: that money elsewhere.

1500
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1501
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: I've always been like, like all this legalizing weed rules,

1502
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I could give a shit. I don't know what was

1503
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: so bad about hiding in the bushes, But I'm like well, yeah, man,

1504
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: if you're going to use it for conservation money, then

1505
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: ye get a lot of money.

1506
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: Still, does your theory still hold true? Like about democratic

1507
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 3: and republican states like legalization.

1508
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: That legalizing weed is yeah, like the lefty states were

1509
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: quicker to legalize weed.

1510
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 2: Of course.

1511
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering what I mean.

1512
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Isn't that just like accepted as reality?

1513
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 3: I know, but we've kind of kind of showed that

1514
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 3: it wasn't necessarily that the case.

1515
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: I think over time perhaps, but Wyoming is still holding strong.

1516
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: I believe they don't want you smoking weed. I believe

1517
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: so I'm out.

1518
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 4: Hmmm, I drink it up.

1519
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who else has got something?

1520
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 9: Someone's got it? Take me turkey hunting this season. That's

1521
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 9: my thing.

1522
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 4: I I want everybody to know that kren is the

1523
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 4: only person in the office. We'll just put we have

1524
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 4: like internal communication thing called slack, and she'll just put

1525
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 4: out there, does anybody have any pheasant spots they want

1526
01:24:59,680 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 4: to give?

1527
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 2: Put?

1528
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 4: The thing is like, she absolutely knows it's not appropriate questions,

1529
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 4: but she doesn't care either. Somebody will break.

1530
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 6: I put on the charade of just going up never

1531
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 6: killed a turkey.

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01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: Just putting that out there, but I don't you know, then.

1533
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 6: Follow up with the director ask just sort of seed

1534
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 6: that thought.

1535
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: Don't you ask some special gun you're gonna use for

1536
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 3: your first.

1537
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 6: Turkey if I can get it back from the gunsmith.

1538
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 3: Great one.

1539
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're talking, I wasn't.

1540
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: I was only I was only half listening when you're yeah,

1541
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: because I wanted to tease you about shooting flint lock.

1542
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 2: Sure, what is the gun you're making?

1543
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 6: It's a it's a very silly story, but it's it's

1544
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 6: a it's like a German imported version of a submachine

1545
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 6: gun that's civilian legals. So it's got a sixteen inch

1546
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 6: barrel and the lower unit is different. So you can

1547
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 6: get a trigger group from the real deal, make some modifications,

1548
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 6: mills some things, replace some parts, slap it in there,

1549
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 6: and then you get a little it's a.

1550
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 2: Little little bullet, a little bullet hose and it's fully automatic.

1551
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 6: No, no, it's just it resembles the real thing.

1552
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: We were talking about breaking law for a minute. No, no, no,

1553
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: this is all above that.

1554
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 4: That's a yeah, it's that's a big that's a big

1555
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 4: law to break.

1556
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, this is very self conscious, but this is

1557
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 6: just uh and.

1558
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 3: You're going to use that machine gun for turkey?

1559
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 6: No, no, no, It's just a silly, little fun project

1560
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 6: that I'll probably end up selling as soon as I

1561
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 6: finish it.

1562
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 4: This is one. Yeah.

1563
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen Cal. He's got more stuff to read.

1564
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: I've never seen Cal less interested.

1565
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I would have more interest

1566
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 4: in talking about rewiring a camper trailer that's currently currently

1567
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 4: sitting in your barn.

1568
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 6: We can do that.

1569
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's one more fun to me. Yeah, it's like, oh,

1570
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 4: you're buying parts and putting them together.

1571
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1572
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how little he cared about what you're

1573
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: talking about.

1574
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 8: If you shot this thing, you would care more.

1575
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 4: Robertson dollars.

1576
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: Great, you know what I was feeling, Cal was feeling

1577
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: complete indifference. What I was feeling is a little out

1578
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: of the out of the loop. Yeah, no, it's to

1579
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: be like that that. I'm like, am I Like, how

1580
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,480
Speaker 1: could I not know what he's talking about?

1581
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 2: Little jealous?

1582
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 6: A very niche uh gun subculture. I've always been curious

1583
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 6: about about these.

1584
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: When do you say these? What do you mean this?

1585
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 8: This?

1586
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 3: It's a it's just tell them what it is.

1587
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 6: It's an h K U s C and the U

1588
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 6: m P is the original sort of law enforcement version.

1589
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 6: But you can do these modifications and put a folding.

1590
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 2: Stock on it. What's miss Williams thinking? She thinks it's

1591
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 2: really stupid. How much you're gonna have into this? Let's

1592
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: just keep that.

1593
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 4: That's not a great question.

1594
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all.

1595
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 6: Those are all imaginary numbers, you know.

1596
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 8: Should what you should ask is how much does he

1597
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 8: stand to make off of this once he completes a

1598
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 8: little build.

1599
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: How much you're gonna make, Reynald, I don't know.

1600
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 6: I don't know. I think it'll be I think it'll

1601
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 6: be more than I put into it.

1602
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: So this is like a for profit You're like a

1603
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 2: gun dealer.

1604
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 6: That have certain legal implications.

1605
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 3: So I think it's a postum gun.

1606
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 8: Now I'm trying to convince Randall to never sell gun

1607
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 8: don't sell guns in that case.

1608
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 2: I always regret it when I do. No, that's not true.

1609
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: I used to, but now I don't.

1610
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got a whole I mean, sometimes I play

1611
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 6: a game with my buddy where we try to name

1612
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 6: every gun that we've bought and sold, and we have

1613
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 6: a spreadsheet going. But it's still incomplete because we can't

1614
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 6: get there. Just a weird hobby, you know. So there's

1615
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 6: some guys that are like really into cars, some guys

1616
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 6: that are really into stamps. But this will be fun.

1617
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 6: I'll have the little project and then I can use

1618
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 6: it as a little plinker at the rain for a

1619
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 6: little while, and then maybe it goes down the road.

1620
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 6: Maybe I I just keep it, maybe I hang on

1621
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 6: to it.

1622
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do you want to keep going?

1623
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 2: For the record, I didn't bring this up. It's true.

1624
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to change the subject. Several times. You seem

1625
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: like you don't want to talk about it.

1626
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, it's one of

1627
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 6: those things that I'd sort of do compulsively. And I

1628
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 6: think if I if I were, if I were better

1629
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 6: able to control my impulses, I'd probably make more practical

1630
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 6: decisions with the guns that I buy and sell. But

1631
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 6: you know, it's just me and something that I live

1632
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 6: with every day. I look at myself in the mirror.

1633
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 6: I don't always like what I see.

1634
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 2: Too hard on yourself, cal go ahead, what were you

1635
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: gonna say when you got bored with Randall?

1636
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 4: Senate Joint Resolution twenty five Dash zero zero nine Protection

1637
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 4: of Colorado's public Land. So this just happened yesterday. We're

1638
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 4: very timely, right, But it is a bipartisan two Democrats

1639
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 4: two Republicans in the state of Colorado pushed through sj R.

1640
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 4: Twenty five Dash zero zero nine, which is a joint

1641
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 4: resolution that says Colorado will not support the sale or

1642
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 4: privatization or transfer of the twenty two million acres of

1643
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 4: public land in the state of Colorado. So this is

1644
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 4: in response to a bunch of the stuff that we've

1645
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:37,440
Speaker 4: been covering over the last couple of months, Utah's lawsuit,

1646
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 4: which is going to be resubmitted here pretty quick. No really, yeah,

1647
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 4: so great proactive move from the state of Colorado. Again,

1648
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 4: they have twenty two million acres of federally managed land

1649
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 4: in that state and saying that they're against sale or

1650
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 4: transfer to public lands, which is great news for folks

1651
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 4: who like to go out outside and do stuff in

1652
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 4: a free America.

1653
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: And so with my little fire chart showing likelihood of advancing,

1654
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: where does this one fit.

1655
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,480
Speaker 4: This one's through. It's through in the state of Colorado. Yeah.

1656
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 3: Also in Colorado, that one we were talking about where

1657
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 3: they were going to change the language of how hunting

1658
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,759
Speaker 3: would be used, and that got tabled, so it's dead

1659
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 3: for the year.

1660
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: You know what, I figured, I had that pegged as

1661
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: a low when I developed my app. It'll be like

1662
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: a low probability. That seemed like a gesture, that seemed

1663
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: like grand standing.

1664
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 6: But every now and then there's a dry, windy day,

1665
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 6: you know, prefer like figuratively speaking, right.

1666
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you like that? I really did, I really did.

1667
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 4: I got a gun build going on right now too, Steve.

1668
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 4: I finally sent you that guy's info. Oh yeah, and

1669
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 4: we're not going to talk about him on the show

1670
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 4: because I don't want to get him backed up too

1671
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 4: much with gun orders. Yeah, my new new flint flint lock.

1672
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying names.

1673
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 4: Steve wants a percussion cap. I'm gonna go with the flintlock.

1674
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 2: That's weak ship. I want.

1675
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell what I want. I did a call

1676
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: out on this and I'm gonna do another call out

1677
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 1: on it. I want a single trigger percussion cap mm hmmm,

1678
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: tack driver.

1679
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 3: Without the set trigger.

1680
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Trigger I know company single yeh single trigger.

1681
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 3: You just want like a three pound.

1682
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 2: A three pound trigger.

1683
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't want that stupid second trigger on there, just

1684
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: percussion cap, single trigger, but a tack driver, and I'm

1685
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 1: willing to pay.

1686
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have yet to participate. I guess we did do, Like, Ah,

1687
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 4: where the hell were we Nebraska or Iowa or someplace

1688
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 4: trying to hunt things with muzzleoders?

1689
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? Those are modern inlines, right, I like things.

1690
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 4: So that's but that's the only thing I have.

1691
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 8: No.

1692
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 4: We plus we shot secret years ago.

1693
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah you did that with you didn't even

1694
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 3: have a scope on yours. No, No, those are shooting

1695
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 3: away across the marsh, just leveling them.

1696
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 4: Those things come with scopes. Anyway, real excited you to

1697
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 4: participate in Montana's heritage season. Well, she's hanging with me. Yeah.

1698
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 4: Uh so I'm doing the sensible thing and building up

1699
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 4: a rifle that is going to be super awesome so

1700
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 4: I can go effectively lay the smack down this this

1701
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 4: coming heritage season with whatever tags I have left in

1702
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 4: my pocket.

1703
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: What's a single trigger ahead, fifty col single trigger, fifty cow,

1704
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: three pound pole, percussion cap.

1705
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't care. That's like Timy.

1706
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to look old Timy. It's just it's

1707
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: it's Montana legal.

1708
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 8: That's like the old barely legal the TC Pennsylvania Hunter.

1709
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 8: That's exactly what you're looking for.

1710
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:14,919
Speaker 2: Single trigger percussion.

1711
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, now with percussion caps, you still got to walk

1712
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 3: around with a plastic bag.

1713
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 2: If it's percussion Pennsylvania.

1714
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah you can.

1715
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: You know you can only use flint lock.

1716
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, well wasn't. It's a it's a model that Thompson

1717
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 8: Center made. They all the ones I've ever seen have

1718
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 8: been flint locks. But uh, they make them in or

1719
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 8: they used to. They don't make them anymore. Is it

1720
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 8: still available?

1721
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: Single trigger percussion? You probably have to find one somewhere.

1722
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. TC is getting fired back up again,

1723
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 2: so maybe they're gonna start making them. Oh you want

1724
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: to know something interesting that happen to me and doctor Randall.

1725
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 2: Two things. We're in Wyoming. We're about right to wrap up, Phil.

1726
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great.

1727
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Put your hand on the switch there. And we're in Wyoming.

1728
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: We went so we went to these archaeologists offices and

1729
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: one thing that happened the minute we walked in the door.

1730
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,560
Speaker 1: If you remember this, Randall, We walked into an archaeologist

1731
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: office and immediately I look in there's a giant dinosaur

1732
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: bone on the floor like a giant femur of a

1733
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: dinosaur and I said something to the effect of good lord,

1734
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: what's that And he said that's a rock And I said, oh,

1735
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:32,719
Speaker 1: I thought it was a dinosaur bone.

1736
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 2: And he said that's what the guy that gave it

1737
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 2: to me thought it was. And he offered it to us.

1738
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 6: Hey, he said, if you want to get it out

1739
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 6: of here, it's all yours.

1740
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: Here's the interesting part.

1741
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: These guys are doing an excavation of Fort Bonneville, so

1742
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: like an eighteen thirties mountain man site, and they're showing

1743
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: us just a little like scraps of metal. I mean,

1744
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: there's not much there, like you how the metal was coveted,

1745
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 1: like nothing gets thrown away but a.

1746
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: Bunch of little old like old. But what would have.

1747
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 1: Been very brand new is a bunch of percussion caps.

1748
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: They came off this site and they looked just like

1749
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: a yeah, really like.

1750
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 2: Dude, just like a little yeah, just like a like

1751
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 2: a percussion cap.

1752
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 3: Were they fired or on fire?

1753
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 2: Fired percussion caps? Fired percussion caps? Yeah? That that was cool.

1754
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're looking at the infancy of it would

1755
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,440
Speaker 1: have been cutting edge technology.

1756
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool.

1757
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Was it the Hawken Brothers that came up with percussion.

1758
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 4: I wonder if those percussion caps worked.

1759
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 2: They definitely did, man, they definitely did well.

1760
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 4: How many of them worked to not work? Ratio? That's

1761
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 4: what I mean?

1762
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: Like what was the yeah, Like, how often did you

1763
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 2: have a missfire?

1764
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 4: I can't say, yeah, that hunt, that the Nebraska or

1765
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 4: whatever late season dealer that we did. Finally, deer steps

1766
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 4: out a little too far. Deer steps out a little

1767
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 4: too far. Oh, this one's on the right track, comes

1768
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 4: out perfect, broadside.

1769
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:18,440
Speaker 3: The bad primers, another tip, little.

1770
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 4: Puffs of smoke and off percussions. Yeah, off percussion caps.

1771
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, yeah.

1772
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 6: That's why you're going to the flint lock.

1773
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly well. And the other reason I'm going with

1774
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 4: the flint lock too is if it, for whatever reason

1775
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 4: is something that I do not like and can't accommodate,

1776
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 4: I can always go to a percussion cap with that

1777
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 4: same rifle.

1778
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 2: I just put it changed the lot different.

1779
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you ever think about getting yourself a match lock? No,

1780
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: the old k had a light of fire.

1781
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 3: Then they confuse.

1782
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 6: A wheel lock.

1783
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: All right, everybody good, and we got anything else to say?

1784
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 2: Turkey week, Good luck, Turkey hold.

1785
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 4: Do you have any Do you have any goals for

1786
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 4: your week of vacation that's coming up.

1787
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 2: I need to recuperate. We're gonna spearfish bunch. But I'm

1788
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 2: worried about I just don't have any energy right now,

1789
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 2: so I'm worried about that.

1790
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 4: Do you have any species goals?

1791
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 2: No? Take what I can get. I packed my Feelae knife,

1792
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 2: so I can tell you that.

1793
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 4: You don't want to be on that.

1794
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Pack my knife.

1795
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 1: I gotta get better. My kid's raring to go. He's

1796
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna be very irritated that I'm not that.

1797
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: I need a day. I need a recuperation day or

1798
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 2: two when I get there.

1799
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 9: Did he get that new GoPro?

1800
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: My god, Oh he did, and he's got like a

1801
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 1: little payment plan. He did a high bank rolled the purchase.

1802
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Uh he had he had one hundred bucks of the

1803
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: kicked in. I made him make a chart so for

1804
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: the next eight months, he owes me thirty bucks.

1805
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 2: A month in interesting juice parenting. So I got that

1806
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 2: chart my office, thirty bucks a month.

1807
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 4: You should build one with like general credit card interest rates.

1808
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 4: And here's what I could that.

1809
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a variable. That was the thing about it.

1810
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: Milking it out of.

1811
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 9: Him is ro getting the old camera.

1812
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: He says, part of what his plan is to sell

1813
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: the old one to get some of his payments.

1814
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 9: He's got a mind.

1815
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 2: He's a wheeler dealer. Yeah, exactly. He's like Randall. He's

1816
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 2: a wheeler dealer.

1817
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 9: Out and he should accompany Randall to the estate sales

1818
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,759
Speaker 9: and then maybe they can buy stuff and re sell stuff.

1819
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 4: And I can't wait to see him out there being like,

1820
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 4: the more I talk about this, I don't even think

1821
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 4: I want to sell this. It's probably better than the

1822
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 4: new one. But I suppose I could let him go.

1823
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 2: All right, this might be my last show. It's been fun.

1824
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 4: Thanks for a good, good run.

1825
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 2: What number is this grin? If I die?

1826
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 7: Oh wow, we're at six hundred six seventy something.

1827
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 2: You believe that if I die? Well, everybody you know,

1828
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 2: thanks for listening. Can I have all your ship.

1829
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Address?

1830
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? And since Randall knows Randall, you're in charge of

1831
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 2: the estates.

1832
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to fight everything.

1833
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: I've got the app on my phone.

1834
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 6: It'll be real smooth.

1835
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:50,839
Speaker 9: We'll auction everything off and we'll get a bajillion dollars

1836
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 9: for conservation.

1837
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: Randall sent me a plan access Randall. He was showing

1838
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: me about an estate sale the other day and then

1839
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: he sent me a picture. There's two things at the

1840
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 1: estate sale that didn't sell, and it was a box

1841
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: of empty DVD cases and some disposable yearine collection devices.

1842
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 2: Everything else cleared out.

1843
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 6: I got a I got a box of bullets for

1844
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 6: real steel and a nice digital scale with my name

1845
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 6: on it.

1846
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining

1847
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 9: H