1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Long Island Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: I hope that you had a RESTful and restorative weekend 4 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: after the hellish week that we had last week. I 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: have no idea what this Monday is going to bring 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: for us, but I'm assuming that it's going to be 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: a lot more of the same. Coming up in today 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: is my conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner, who you know. 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: I will say this, Glenn has been coming on this 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: show consecutively for two years, every week without without fail um, 11 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: unless I've been traveling or he's been traveling. He has 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: dedicated his time to sharing with all of you and 13 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: with me his hopefulness and his feelings about where the 14 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: DOJ is going to go and whether or not we're 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: going to finally indict those people that are responsible for 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: trying to overthrow our government for mismanaging COVID nineteen, which 17 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: cost now over a million lives in this country. And 18 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: I've always looked to Glenn for his hopefulness, for his 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: you know wherewithal, especially when I'm in times of darkness 20 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: and I will tell you that this conversation that you 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: will hear is going to be very raw and very real. 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: And Glenn has moved into a space where after every 23 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: bit of information that we keep getting that is leaked 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: about the Supreme Courts, about Donald Trump and his documents 25 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: about who knew what and when, and the fact that 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: still still as I record this right now, there has 27 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: been no movement to put criminal charges on Donald Trump 28 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: or anybody associated with the Trump administration. And as time 29 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: keeps ticking on and the Republicans continue to show their 30 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: hand and show us exactly the type of country that 31 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: they want to turn America into. If we don't see 32 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: immediate action by the Department of Justice before November, if 33 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: we don't see immediate action by this administration right Biden 34 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: with a series of executive orders before in November, our 35 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: feeling now is one and the same that our democracy 36 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: is on life support. And when I say on life support, 37 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean that the midterms are going to be our 38 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: last free and fair election if Republicans win, because they 39 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: will dismantle everything that we know and have come to 40 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: understand that separates the United States from many other nations, 41 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: which is our democracy, our read of we the people 42 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: when you are faced against a political party that wants 43 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: to put women and people with uteruses back into the 44 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, when we are seeing reports about not only 45 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: are they coming after Rob Wade and gleefully excited, and 46 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: now their glee has turned into fear as cavan Haw 47 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: and Thomas and others hide in their homes because of 48 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: protesters that are showing up at their houses. Because guess what, 49 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: abortion is personal. A woman's body is personal, and no 50 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: government should have the ability to dictate and force you 51 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: to have birth when they are not going to be 52 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: picking up the expense for what it means to have 53 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: a child in this country. They're not affording you the 54 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: ability to pay for childcare. They're not affording you the 55 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: ability to have healthcare. They're not affording you the ability 56 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: to have a good public education unless you're willing to 57 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: pay the property taxes of where your child can get 58 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the best education. No, they're not doing any of those things. 59 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: And so that being said, they're not stopping there, which 60 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: is what I've been saying on wokef for the longest time. 61 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Abortion is the beginning. It is the lowest hanging fruit, 62 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: and particularly when you are doing it with an administration 63 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: that just recently uttered. The word tells you exactly why 64 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: it has been low hanging fruit, because we have always 65 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: loved to say as Democrats, abortion should be safe, you know, 66 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: and rare. No, abortion should be safe and whenever the 67 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: fuck you need it right, And it should be up 68 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: to the person who is getting that abortion to make 69 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: that decision, not their priest, not their rabbi, right, not 70 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: their government, not their husband, not their what it should 71 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: be up to the person. But now there are reports 72 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: coming out folks where they're going after contraception. They're going 73 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: after your birth control, not condoms, but your ability to 74 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: take a pill and again dictate when, where and if 75 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: you become a mother, you become a parent. It's disgusting. 76 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: And you know what I saw over the weekend. It 77 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: was a New York Times article about the new excessive 78 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: policies that the Taliban which is now in control of 79 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Afghanistan since we have pulled out in a historic disaster 80 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: that of course we have long since forgot because now 81 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: you know the world is in another war in Ukraine 82 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: with at the helm of Putin. But if you recall, 83 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: as we were making this remarkable pullout from Afghanistan after 84 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: twenty years, and watch this country, which America has been 85 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: propping up but clearly not in the best way possible, 86 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: collapse in a matter of weeks after twenty years. They're 87 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: rolling out new rules for women pretty much every single week. 88 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: First it was restrictions on your ability to work, no 89 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: longer able to do that. Then it was on your 90 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: restriction to be able to leave your home, to be 91 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: able to get an education for women. Now the latest 92 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: that the New York Times is covering over the weekend 93 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: is a full burka, the return to not just wearing 94 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: a h job right, which again should be the choice 95 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: of a woman to adhere to if in fact she 96 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: is devout. Now it is not a choice. It's highly 97 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: recommended from this abusive terrorist government that a woman cover 98 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: in a burka with just a lace lace over her eyes, 99 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: that there is no showing of a figure or form 100 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: or anything, and that if she does not adhere to 101 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: those things, and the government goes to her home and 102 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: speaks to the man in charge and he refuses to 103 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: adhere to that, there is jail time and other penalties. 104 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Now we read these articles in the United States and 105 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: we think, oh, my god, how dare they? How archaic? 106 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: You tell me what the difference is between what is 107 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: happening in the United States, what is starting in the 108 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: United States as a way to control women and people 109 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: with uteruses, and what the Taliban is doing in Afghanistan. Now, 110 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't love I don't like it when people refer 111 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: to the Republican Party. It's like, oh, the American Taliban. No, no, no, 112 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: you don't need to invoke them. But what I'm saying 113 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: is for an organization that Republicans has always jeered against 114 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: right and said we're archaic and this, that and the 115 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: other thing, and we got to stand up. What is 116 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: the difference between the way that the Taliban men want 117 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: to control the women in Afghanistan and the way that 118 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the radical, radicalized Republican white supremacist party wants to control 119 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: women and people with uteruses. There is no difference. And 120 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: it starts with abortion, then it goes to birth control, 121 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: and then maybe they will begin to repeal workplace equity 122 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: laws that were put in place. Maybe they go after 123 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Lily led Better, Maybe they go there. Right, you remember 124 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: that major case that was one that then allowed for 125 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: women to be able to sue their employers. Maybe the 126 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Supreme Court says, well, that hinders you know, CEOs and 127 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: shareholders ability to make money, and that's a part of 128 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: regulations that corporations shouldn't have to deal with. So maybe 129 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: they decide to rescind that. Maybe they go so far 130 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: as to rescind the ability of you know, into racial 131 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: couples to marry. We know definitely that they're coming for 132 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: LGBTQ people. So what's next? And Hillary Clinton, in an 133 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: interview that she did recently and I did a TikTok 134 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: on a couple of days ago, was very clear she 135 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: essentially offered the modernization of Martin Neo Mueller's poem first 136 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: they for She goes, if you're looking at what is 137 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: happening right now, and you say that I'm not a 138 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: woman and I don't care, I'm not black and I 139 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: don't care, understand that when you allow this type of 140 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: extremism to begin to take hold, that there is no 141 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: telling and no stopping them from rolling over every single other. Right, 142 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: people like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, people like myself who 143 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: are speaking out against the government. Do you think that 144 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: these people will not have to be forced to flee 145 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: in a matter of years. You think, folks, that what 146 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying seems extreme, that this could not possibly happen 147 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: in your United States. And what I'm saying is that 148 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: the first half of your life that you understood what 149 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: this country was, what it stood for, what you have 150 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: been indoctrinated to understand, is no longer going to be 151 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: the norm. We have already been on a downward slope, 152 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: a descent over the last several years under Donald Trump. 153 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: The things that we would have never accepted America has 154 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: rolled over for we Now. You heard reports over the 155 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: weekend as well in Mark Esper's new fucking book, because 156 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: everybody's got a fucking book to hawk so that they 157 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: can put money in their pockets, but didn't give a 158 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: shit about democracy or what their responsibility and their quote 159 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: unquote sacred oath was to our constitution. Mark Esper, former 160 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense under Trump, wants you to believe that 161 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: he stayed in office because he had a duty and 162 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: a responsibility to be the grown up in the room 163 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: so that Donald Trump wouldn't launch missiles into Mexico and 164 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: then cover it up. He was in the room when 165 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: he decided to order the hit on Solomony in Iran. 166 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: These people are unhinged, They are draconian, they are vicious, 167 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: and they are violent, and they are being led by 168 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: a fucking egomaniac. And everybody that had a responsibility to 169 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: say something with all of the leaks that we saw 170 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: coming out of the Trump administration, Mark Esper decided to 171 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: hold that information as we were headed into the twenty 172 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: twenty election and wait, wait until it was going to 173 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: be worth a pretty penny that then he could sell 174 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: and then try and sell us the lie that he 175 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: cares as a way to scrub his reputation. Do not 176 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: allow him to scrub his reputation. He is shady, he 177 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: is dirty, just like the rest of Trump's acolytes, just 178 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: like the rest of the accomplices to the destruction of 179 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: democracy that continues, continues to go on without anyone trying 180 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: to intervene. I ask every fucking week where is the 181 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: Department of Justice? Once again we see that the First 182 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: Lady has made a trip to the Ukraine, which I 183 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: think is great. I am very happy that our brilliant 184 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: doctor Jill Biden went to Ukraine to go and visit 185 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: with and speak with the First Lady there. I'm very 186 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: happy about the ways in which the United States has 187 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: wanted to step up in order to preserve the democracy 188 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: that is slipping through the Ukrainian people's grasps as Russia 189 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: closes in and now Marapole is under Soviet rule, appearance 190 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: with statues erected and Russian signs put up everywhere. I 191 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: wish that this administration would take their tough talk and 192 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: the force that they have been using and direct that 193 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: to the opponents of our democracy here. But we keep 194 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: believing that somehow we're getting another by that the apple 195 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: when we lose midterms, that all this is just all normal. 196 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: It's not fucking normal. It's not normal to have a 197 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court that just disavows precedent. It's not normal for 198 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices to lie during their confirmation hearings under oath. 199 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: It is not normal to have a Supreme Court justice 200 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: that had a wife that was closely associated with the 201 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: insurrection and on the hot line with the then chief 202 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: of Staff being one of the many voices to say 203 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: that we have to do whatever to hold onto power. 204 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: And again, no investigation to Clarence Thomas. But Chief Justice 205 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Roberts wants to have an investigation because of the leak 206 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: that allowed us to see who these people are. And 207 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: now you want to be fearful and making up Oh 208 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: my god, it's Antifa that's coming for us. No, it's not. 209 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: You have to deal with the consequences of destroying our 210 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: democracy because if you think that people are going to 211 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: be going silently into the night, I got another fucking 212 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: story to tell you. Because as much as I like 213 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: to say that people are asleep at the wheel, and 214 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I think that a majority of people are, because I 215 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: think that they're too busy dealing with the fact that 216 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: they don't know if they're going to be able to 217 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: afford their mortgages or their rent, or making choices between 218 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: what kind of groceries were getting because of inflation and 219 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: the gas fucking prices. This is the climate that Hitler 220 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: was able to covet and murder six million people without 221 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: the world fucking blinking. So when this Republican party that 222 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: owns the courts, that owns the state legislatures start to 223 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: institute their own version of Jim Crow two point zero 224 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: and apartheid, and then they say that everything that they're 225 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: doing is legal because they own all the lovers of 226 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: power understand that all of the things, the horrific things 227 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: that we have studied and learned in school, were all 228 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: legal at the time that they were happening. So unless 229 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: this administration decides to wake the fuck up and see 230 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: that this is not the Republican Party of your father's time, 231 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: or your mother's time, or your grandparents' time, these people 232 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: are radicalized. They are a cult, They are dangerous, and 233 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: they want to inflict as much pain and violence as possible. 234 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: In Esper's book, he talks about Donald Trump wanting the 235 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: ability to shoot protesters in the leg can't we just 236 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: shoot them? All you need is somebody that had the 237 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: ability to say, sure, we could shoot him. We'll say 238 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: that they all had guns. We'll say that they were 239 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: a militia. Put out that ship to Fox News. Let 240 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: it spread like wildfire. No one will be the wiser 241 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: because they control everything, and we'll watch our prisons fill 242 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: up with political prisoners. This is where this shit is heading. 243 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: I wish that I had some solve, some balm to 244 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: offer you as you ease into this week. But the 245 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: reality is I need to rip the band aid off. 246 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: We all do. I tell us to rest I tell 247 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: us to restore, I tell us to get joy find 248 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: joy every single day, because each and every day is 249 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: getting darker and darker, and people keep asking what is 250 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: the recourse, and what is the recourse and what is 251 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: the recourse? Well, I really appreciate the people that are 252 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: standing on in front of Breta's house. I really appreciate 253 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: the people that are standing out in front of Alito's house, 254 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: in Roberts's house. I want them to live with the 255 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: same type of fear and discomfort that the women trying 256 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: to walk into planned parenthoods feel when they are being 257 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: heckled and shamed. I don't want a Republican to be 258 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: able to walk into a fucking restaurant. I don't want 259 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: them to be able to walk into their fucking front door. 260 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: That's where we're headed, and that is exactly what needs 261 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: to happen. They think that they are going to roll 262 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: back our constitution and use it as toilet paper, and 263 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: I am saying, let me tell you something. There is 264 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: a lot that I am willing to do, and I 265 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: think that many people are willing to do in order 266 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: to fight back, and they need to be prepared to 267 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: deal with the consequences of the choices that they are making. 268 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: I have said any times before, things in this country 269 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: are going to get bloodier before they get better. And 270 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know what better looks like, but I 271 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: do know that folks need to buckle the fuck up 272 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: because this country is going on a ride that we 273 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: have only ever seen in quote unquote developing nations, because 274 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: that's what we have become. Coming up next, my conversation 275 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: with our friend MSNBC Legal analysts and the host of 276 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner. Folks, As always, you know that 277 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: when I have the ability each week to sit down 278 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: with our friend Glenn Kirshner, host of Justice Matters and 279 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: MSNBC Legal analyst, it is never a good time. We 280 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: never have anything good to discuss, Glenn, not in the 281 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: last two years. But this week, this past week was 282 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: probably I think the worst that we have seen thus far. 283 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: So I just want to get your reactions to our 284 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: constitutional crisis that we are now in. That Justice Alito's draft, 285 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: and I put that in quotation marks draft opinion of 286 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: the Mississippi abortion case pretty much single signals to America, 287 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: to everyone that everything is on the table and that 288 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: these justices in this six to three court are the 289 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: ones that get to decide what is foundational to America. 290 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: I just want your reactions from what you saw, how 291 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: you were feeling, and then we'll go from there. Yeah. 292 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: So the phrase that continues to come to mind for 293 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: me is we created this monster. And people really get 294 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: angry when I say we created this monster because the 295 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: first thing people say, understandably is I didn't vote for 296 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: any of these Republicans. I certainly didn't vote for Supreme 297 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: Court justices. Nobody did. But you know what, we all 298 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: voted for the politicians who have been in office in 299 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: recent years who allowed this to happen. The Republicans were 300 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: fighting for it. The Democrats may have been fighting against 301 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: it around the edges, but we can see now that 302 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: they were not fighting effectively. I maintain they've never taken 303 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: both gloves off. And we created this monster. How did 304 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: we create this monster when? And I definitely want to 305 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: get to what you what you opened with, which is 306 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: everything is on the table, because that's hugely important. But 307 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: we created this monster when we let Mitch McConnell act 308 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: unconstitutionally to deprive Merrick Garland of his confirmation hearing and 309 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: of vote, and instead of doing what I maintain we 310 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: should have done which would have been a gloves off approach. 311 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: When Mitch McConnell said, I, as one man, will rewrite 312 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: the Constitution, and I will say there will be no 313 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: advice and consent hearing by the Senate, which the Constitution 314 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: provides for, and I will not give you a vote 315 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: on your nominee. What the Obama administration should have done, 316 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: and this is not a criticism, because you know, I 317 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: embrace the progress we made under President Obama's administration. But 318 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: what it should have done is instead of giving into 319 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: that political terrorism, they should have said, you have thirty days, 320 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: Senator McConnell to hold a hearing and give the nominee 321 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: of a a vote. If you don't, I will deem that 322 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: you have waived your constitutional prerogative to give advice and consent, 323 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: and I will tell Merrick Garland to take his place 324 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court. Then Mitch McConnell Danielle would have 325 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: had to have run into Federal Court and convinced the 326 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: judges that he had a right to rewrite the Constitution 327 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: as one man. He would have gone down in flames. 328 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: And what would have happened, in my opinion, is the 329 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: judges would have basically issued a writ of man, damis, 330 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: do your job, Mitch McConnell, hold a hearing in a vote. 331 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Maybe he would have been confirmed, maybe he would not 332 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: have been confirmed, but we would not have given in 333 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: to the political terrorism. But we did. We allowed it 334 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: to happen. We let cavitall lie his flipping way through 335 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: his confirmation hearing, and we did nothing about it. We 336 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: created this monster, right, We let Clarence Thomas involve him 337 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: self been deeply unethical, perhaps illegal conduct of sitting in 338 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: a case where he was trying to bury deeply damaging 339 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: information about his insurrectionist wife. We created this monster. What 340 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: are we gonna do about it? Now? Dan Yell? Are 341 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: we gonna keep beating the monster? Or are we going 342 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: to starve the monster? Because look at the confirmation hearing 343 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: testimony of Alito, Gorsuch, Cavanaugh, and Amy Coney, Barrett, Barrett right, 344 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: every one of them communicated Roe v. Wade settled law, 345 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: starry decisive, entitled to respect. What is the opening paragraph 346 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: of Alito's own draft opinion. It Roe versus Wade was 347 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: egregiously wrong the day it was decided, and it must 348 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: be overruled well that puts the lie to your confirmation. 349 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: Here testimony, you used party words, you were evasive, you 350 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: were a flippin' weasel. Oh, I don't want to say flipping, 351 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep saying flipping. You were a flippin' weasel. 352 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: And now you are proving yourself to be a liar. Danielle, 353 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do about it? Are we gonna 354 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: keep feeding the monster? Or are we going to say 355 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: this is illegitimate? You old justices cannot dictate that women 356 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: must carry a pregnancy to term against their will, against 357 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: their decision, against their autonomy rights as human beings. Are 358 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: we gonna let that stand? Are we going to keep 359 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: feeding the monster? Or are we gonna say no, It's 360 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: time for the rule of law to assert itself. And too, 361 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't know forty five hundred citizen tips with derogatory 362 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: information about Brett cabitalf sitting at the White House where 363 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: they were delivered by the FBI. Are we going to 364 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: keep feeding the monster? And if we are, well, then 365 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: we will not keep our republic period. With respect to 366 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: everything being on the table, Danielle, Once you say Americans 367 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: have no constitutionally protected privacy, interests. Not only will the 368 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: right of a woman to decide for herself what happens 369 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: inside her own body go away, the right of gay 370 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: marriage will go away, the right to contraception will go away, 371 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: the right let me tell you, get ready, because segregation 372 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: is on the table. Ye if you don't think they're 373 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna say round versus Board of Education wrongly decided. Let's 374 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: go back to the you know, framers of the Constitution. 375 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: What did they have in mind about equal rights for minorities? Huh? 376 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's all on the table. We are being 377 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: dragged by five flipping justices back into the dark ages. 378 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: And are we going to let it happen? Are we 379 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: going to keep feeding the monster, that's the only question, 380 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: or are we going to decide that the rule of 381 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: law must be asserted. I'm telling you right now, Glenn, 382 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: that we do not have This is my opinion. We 383 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: do not have the right president and the right administration 384 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: for this moment. We did not elect warriors. We elected 385 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: a moderate. We elected somebody who we thought had a 386 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: collegial relationship with Republicans and was going to be able 387 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: to somehow coerce them back into their twentieth century mentality 388 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: when decisions were made in corner rooms with a glass 389 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: of scotch and a pat on the back. That is 390 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: the world that Joe Biden came from. It the world 391 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: that he thought that he was going back to. And 392 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: it is the world that, in our desperation in the 393 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: election of twenty twenty, in our desperation, at the height 394 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: of the pandemic, with no vaccine, with nothing in sight 395 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: to give us any type of relief, we said, okay. 396 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: It was not a resounding yes, that's my guy. It 397 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: was a okay, this is the best that we can 398 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: do to beat the beast that we see. And then 399 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: come to pass, he elects, he appoints an attorney general 400 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: that should have been on the Supreme Court. Because the man, 401 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: again is not a fighter. He's a deliberator. He's not 402 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: a fighter. He's not somebody that was going to go 403 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: toe to toe with these criminals. And so here we 404 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: sit because and I'm happy that you said it, because 405 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I love Barack Obama. I love the 406 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: Obama administration. It will go down as a footnote on 407 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: the very short golden period in our country, right. But 408 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: the reality is is that they assumed that they were 409 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: dealing with a rational opposition, a rational opposition that believed 410 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: in the rule of law, that shared the moral fabric 411 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: in understanding of our democracy. They do not. They are thieves, 412 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: They are liars. And so your question is, right, what 413 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: are we going to do about it? Because I'm telling 414 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: you right now, there is not a voice in this 415 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: administration that is saying this ends now. They keep thinking 416 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: that they're going to get another bite at the apple. 417 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: And I'm saying to people this midterm election that is 418 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: coming up in six months, this is the last free 419 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: and fair election. Republicans take back Congress. We are done. 420 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: There is no what if, what about? We are done. 421 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: And so for me, Glenn, the question is, without action 422 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: from this Department of Justice, what are our legal alternatives? 423 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: What do we do Without an activated Department of Justice 424 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, Brett Kavanaugh, you are an 425 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: illegitimate justice. Forty five hundred messages to the FBI and 426 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: they put it in a desk, They handed it over 427 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: to the president. The former president twice impeached, who is 428 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: an egregious liar. But this administration has that information, no movement, 429 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: no movement. So without the Department of Justice, Glenn, what 430 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: alternatives do we have to fight against this beast? You 431 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: know our options are limited, Danielle. You know I'm actually 432 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: in the process of, together with some very hard working interns, 433 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: putting together a list of the states that allow for 434 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: citizens to request and in some cases, insist upon, grand 435 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: jury investigations of corrupt public officials. I'm also looking into, 436 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: and I don't want people to, you know, read too 437 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: much into it, citizen laws that permit citizen arrests of 438 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: crimes that have gone unaddressed by the government. I don't 439 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: pretend any of this is viable, but this is what 440 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: we are left with. And as much as I like, 441 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: how can you not like Joe Biden? How can you 442 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: not respect you know, much of what he did and 443 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: what he stands for? But I wanted to week, I 444 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: mean literally when I heard him say, after this draft 445 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court opinion was leaked, what are they gonna do next? 446 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: Because the MAGA crew is the most extreme, you know, 447 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: political movement we've ever had. Why would you ask the 448 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: question what are they going to do next? Because isn't 449 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: that at least tacitly giving them permission for what they 450 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: did last? Instead of saying they will do nothing next, 451 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: because we will not let them claw back the constitutional 452 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: privacy rights of women, period. And we're already hard at 453 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: work at making sure the constitutional privacy rights of women 454 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: are not revoked. Not what are they gonna do next? 455 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: What the heck kind of a presidential statement is that 456 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea? Maybe I literally have no idea, 457 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: because I watched it and I said, oh my god, 458 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: this must be the most feckless president I have ever 459 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: seen in my entire life. You have tough words for Putin. 460 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: For Putin, they are puffing their chest and beating their chest. 461 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: But for the Republicans that are at war with our content, 462 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: this was a declaration of war. Glenn, I am somebody 463 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: who has been saying this for years on this show. 464 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: Watch this Republican party, see them for who they are. 465 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: And I have been told that I am hyperbolic. I 466 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: have been told that I am crazy, and I'm saying 467 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: if folks do not remember. In amy Cony Barrett's confirmation hearing, 468 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: she was asked a question about Brown versus the Board 469 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: of Education. I didn't like her answer. Her answer was 470 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: akin to what they've all said with regard to Rove Wade, 471 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: and when I tell people that you don't care about abortion, okay, 472 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: do you care about same sex marriage? Do you care 473 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: about public schools? Do you care about the environment, do 474 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: you care about social security? Do you care about voting? 475 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: Because all of those things now are going to be 476 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: decided by five people who get to tell you that 477 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: this is not deeply rooted in who America is. Well, 478 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: neither was my life as three fifths of a human being. 479 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: So if you don't think that all of those things 480 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: are on the table, then you're not paying attention. And 481 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: so you know, if if you look into these things 482 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: that you just laid out, I mean, in all honesty, Glenn, 483 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: here is a really no recourse without action from the 484 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. We as citizens right can only do 485 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: so much. Am I wrong? I can't bring a class 486 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: We can't organize and bring a class action of three 487 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million Americans to do what Now there 488 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: is absent the rule of law entering the fray being 489 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: asserted by the people who have the power to investigate, indict, 490 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: and prosecute people like Brett Kavanaugh, people like Clarence Thomas 491 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: if it is determined he committed a crime and not 492 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: just one of the most horrendous ethical breaches ever of 493 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: the Biosupreme Court Justice. You know, then we really don't 494 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: have any hope. Then the Department of Justice and the 495 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: Biden administration is just giving us over to the monster. 496 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right. They thought they could negotiate and 497 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: cajole and appease the monster and tame the monster. That's 498 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: not how you deal with the monster. You starve the monster, 499 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: You fight the monster, and figuratively speaking, you kill the 500 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: monster that is trying to deprive you of your rights 501 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: as an American. You can't appease or tame the monster. 502 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I think we talk every week, Danielle, 503 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: and I think we are at a loss why the 504 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: Biden administration and the Department of Justice will not open 505 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: their eyes to the fact that the monster is trying 506 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: to kill our rights and they're responding again with more 507 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: purty words and a hope that they can change the 508 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: monster's minds. You're not going to change the monster's mind 509 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: and you're also not going to shame the shameless. Because 510 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: this is the thing too, is that in every statement 511 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: that is made, whether it is from Joe Biden, whether 512 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: it's from Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer. It is nothing 513 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: more than a finger wag. It is nothing more than 514 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: how dare that? Listen to the Vice president of the 515 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: United States? How dare they? How dare they? How dare you? 516 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: How dare you do nothing? How dare you tell us 517 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: that you need our votes and our money and we 518 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: do so in the midst of a pandemic to save 519 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: our own lives. And then you say, what will they 520 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: do next? How dare them? History will remember? History won't 521 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: remember them, you know why, because they're gonna burn the books. 522 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. History won't remember this. So I 523 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: mean I am I am truly Glenn this week, I 524 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: am truly at a loss. I am truly at a 525 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: loss because I examined for myself and again I'm not 526 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: a lawyer, but you brought up one one instance of 527 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: the not fighting back. Three hundred and sixty some odd 528 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: days Mitch McConnell held Merritt Garland seat hostage. There was 529 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: no court case, there was no threat of taking you 530 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: to court, there was no recess appointment, there was nothing. 531 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: You just let this. You tell us that the courts 532 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: are important, and then you let this man hold a 533 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Court seat hostage as if they come open every year. 534 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: That was mistake number two. The first mistake, which I 535 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: have said, was the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg twenty thirteen. 536 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen, Barack Obama says, you should retire at the 537 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: ripe age of eighty. I am not for telling women 538 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: what to do, right. We don't ask men to retire. 539 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: But I will tell you this. He could have appointed 540 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: a woman half her age Kavanaugh, Barrett, they're fifty. We're 541 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: talking about thirty maybe forty years of a lifetime appointment. 542 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: I just I, Glenn, I know that I ask you 543 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: this before. If this is this a banana republic? Have 544 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: we lost? Is this? Are we done? Is my question? 545 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: Because I we have no constant. If the Supreme Court 546 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: rips apart our constitution, are we not already inside of 547 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: a banana republic? Is there a way out? Is there 548 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: a way out? You know? I think the aperture, that's 549 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: the right word for the thing on the camera that 550 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: begins to close. The aperture is closing. And I think 551 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: there may still be enough room for us to wiggle out. 552 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: But I'm not optimistic that we will because the way 553 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: for us to wiggle out before the aperture closes completely, 554 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: is for the rule of law to be robustly asserted 555 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: and deployed by the people who are in a position 556 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: to do it. And why would wouldn't you? And I 557 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: be kind of foolish to think that is about to happen, 558 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: because it sure hadn't happened yet. And when I see 559 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court prepared to revoke the constitutional rights of women, 560 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: and I hear the President say, oh my goodness, what 561 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: will they do next? I'm not optimistic that the rule 562 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: of law will now come roaring in like a lion 563 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: and start to hold these constitutional cannibals accountable. I'm not optimistic. 564 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? Glenn? That's my last 565 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: question for you today. Where do we go from here? 566 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you I have relied on you for 567 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: the past two years for hope. People know me. I'm 568 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: a realist. I haven't had hope in a long time. 569 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: I had hope in the twenty twenty election. I said, Okay, 570 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: we did it. Then I watched the insurrection and I said, oh, 571 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: they're not going to allow this. What I think that 572 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: Justice Alito and this Supreme court's done, is provided a 573 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: license for violence. Because I don't see where else this 574 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: is headed. You tell me, I don't have a good answer, 575 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, where where do we go? It would really 576 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: be nice if we could actually organize and march ten 577 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: million strong to send at least a preliminary signal that 578 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: we will not stand for this. There's something that I 579 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: want to say that I hesitate to say because I'll 580 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: probably live to regret it, but maybe I'll soft pedal it. Everybody, 581 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: everybody else in screams about how if Donald Trump is prosecuted, 582 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 1: his supporters will take to the streets in violence. I 583 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: don't entirely believe that because his supporters, at their core 584 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: are many of them are are weak human beings. I mean, 585 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: when you know you can only feel strong when you 586 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: have a big, old semi automatic weapons strapped across your 587 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: belly and your your Confederate flag on your chest. That 588 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: tells me you're not a strong human being. You couldn't 589 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: be weaker, right, So, I actually don't believe his supporters 590 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: will put themselves in harm's way because they're soft and 591 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: they're weak. But if you take our democracy away, I'm 592 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: not going quietly. I know that's right. I'm not going 593 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 1: you know what, we're all gonna go. We're all gonna 594 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: go on what terms. I'm not going to go now. Please, 595 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: that's not a call to violence or a call to arms, 596 00:43:54,200 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: but what I'm not going to go quietly into some 597 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: Supreme court Hell's escape where women's rights are taken away, 598 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: where you're right to marry is taken away, where you're 599 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: right to contraception is taken away, where you're right to 600 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: something other than separate but equal accommodations is taken away. 601 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going that way. I'm not. I'm 602 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: not so that maybe all we have left, we organized, 603 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: we march, we let it be known that we're not 604 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: going that way. Oh Glenn, I mean I will say this, Um, 605 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right, because I have been saying 606 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: I will. I I will be right alongside you. Because 607 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: I refuse to go quietly into this good night and 608 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: allow these people to drag me back to nineteen fifty two. 609 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: I refuse, I absolutely refuse. And to me, it is 610 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: going to take a mass demonstration of people to say 611 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to work, I'm not going to school, 612 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere but into the street until our 613 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: democracy is recognized, until these people understand that no minority 614 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: rule is not going to happen here, not again. So 615 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: I don't know justice. Alito canceled all his events, all 616 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: his upcoming in person events. Said, if you're so proud 617 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: of your ninety eight page manifesto, sir, then you should 618 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 1: stand before the people, stand before your people. I thought 619 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: you were awaiting the cheers ninety eight page manifesto, and 620 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: now he's hiding. They can't hide forever. And that is 621 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: and that is one hundred percent the truth. Glenn. Thank 622 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: you so much for always for always making the time 623 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: for us and you know finding a way through. We 624 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: will find a way through because we have to. We 625 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 1: have literally no other choice. I appreciate you. Thanks, Danielle. 626 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: That is it for me today. Dear friends, here on 627 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: woke app as always, Power to the people and to 628 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.