WEBVTT - Midnight in America

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WOKF Daily with Meet

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<v Speaker 1>your Girl Danielle Moody from the Home Bunker. Folks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I find it difficult to turn my attention back

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<v Speaker 1>domestically to the fuckery that is the Republican Party when

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<v Speaker 1>there seem to be so many more pressing and serious,

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<v Speaker 1>serious society altering, cultural altering, globally destabilizing things that are happening.

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<v Speaker 1>To pay attention to the fact that House Republicans don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about America. They don't care about government, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about stability, they don't care about how we look

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<v Speaker 1>in the world world, they don't care about America continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to hold its its standing, and so on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>I bring on our friend Kurt Bardella, you know, former

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Democratic now Democratic strategists, columnist and analysts, to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the disaster over the battle for the

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<v Speaker 1>speakership that took three weeks to then anoint a basic misogynist,

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacist, anti Islam, anti LGBTQ, I mean, anti anti

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<v Speaker 1>anti you know, and just apparently wants America to live

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<v Speaker 1>in some type of biblical puritanical bullshit that they make

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<v Speaker 1>up right, that they make up for themselves to to

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<v Speaker 1>say that it's through the domin of toxic masculinity and

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<v Speaker 1>the suppression of women and people of color and black

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<v Speaker 1>folks that you know that we will be great again.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Johnson, So I do. I find it hard And

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time I kind of just want to

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the fucking Republican Party as a whole. But I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't because ignoring them is dangerous, right. That is

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Donald Trump and just pretending that he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going to go away, that it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a clown show, that it was just a side show,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there was no real need to take seriously

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<v Speaker 1>what this man was espousing in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and so here we are. It's just that everything feels

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<v Speaker 1>so fucking serious and so consequential and so damaging, right

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<v Speaker 1>that you just kind of want to look at where

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<v Speaker 1>there is possibility, And I'm I'm not quite sure in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment, I'll be honest with you what possibility looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the anger that I have for this administration while

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<v Speaker 1>is continuing to rise over their global stance on dehumanization.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I don't want this country to fall

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<v Speaker 1>into the hands of the Mike Johnson's, the Marjorie Taylor Greens,

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<v Speaker 1>the Donald Trumps of this country. I do not want that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just seems as if you know, it is

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<v Speaker 1>very much midnight in America, and that we are closer

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<v Speaker 1>to our demise, to the end of what we've understood

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<v Speaker 1>as the American project, than we've ever been before. That

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<v Speaker 1>we are closer to World War three than we have

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<v Speaker 1>ever been before. And I do not say that lightly, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you what I see and what I

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<v Speaker 1>feel and what I know based on patterns of history.

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<v Speaker 1>So on today's show, I get into conversation with our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Kurt Bardella about what he thinks about the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 1>what he offers that Democrats should be doing in this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of looking in his crystal ball to look

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to a year from now, right when we will

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<v Speaker 1>be just weeks away from the most consequential election of

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<v Speaker 1>our time, and what do we even think that America

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<v Speaker 1>will look like a year from now. That conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt is coming up next, folks. You know that whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I have the opportunity to bring my friends on to

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<v Speaker 1>wok F daily. I am always thrilled, particularly when one

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<v Speaker 1>of those friends is a former Republican who has come

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<v Speaker 1>to the light side and left the dark side many

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<v Speaker 1>many moons ago. At this point, now, Kurt Bardella, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you read is writing at USA Today La Times,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kurt, let's just start with this. It took three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>three different people to finally get the Republicans to actually

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<v Speaker 1>come together with a vote for the Speaker of the House.

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<v Speaker 1>After multiple failed attempts, the booting of Kevin McCarthy, the

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<v Speaker 1>failure of Jim Jordan after three cycles of votes, the

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<v Speaker 1>failure of Steve Scalise. They have presented to the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me pull out his repertoire that I wrote down.

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Mike Johnson out of Louisiana, who was elected on

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump train in twenty sixteen. This is a man

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<v Speaker 1>who has voted to steal the twenty twenty election, who

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<v Speaker 1>believes in a national abortion ban, who opposes same sex marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>who supported Trump's Muslim ban, who was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>architects to help overthrow the twenty twenty election, and the

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<v Speaker 1>list goes on, believes that divorce should be illegal is

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<v Speaker 1>a white evangelical Christian to his core. This is who

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party has put up. You tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>people should take from that.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy, Maga Mike as he's been already nicknamed, is

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<v Speaker 2>really the Maga extremists we dream come true. This is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the type of figurehead that they have wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>ascend to the speakership. And really it has been a

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<v Speaker 2>journey for Republicans that began with the Tea Party revolution

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty ten, that started with the initial overthrow of

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<v Speaker 2>the traditional Republican established like John Bayner, like Paul Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>like Eric Cantor, and has now mowed over Kevin McCarthy

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<v Speaker 2>and Steve Scalise, and has now given us this speaker

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<v Speaker 2>who is the embodiment of what the architects of January

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<v Speaker 2>sixth we're trying to achieve in the first place, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to install into the positions of power people predominantly white men,

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<v Speaker 2>with this radical viewpoint of extremism, that anyone who differs

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<v Speaker 2>from this white evangelical casting is a threat. Yep, should

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<v Speaker 2>be outlawed, should be made illegal. Someone who believes that

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that we are headed towards becoming a majority

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<v Speaker 2>minority country in the near future, that that needs to stop,

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<v Speaker 2>that that's dangerous. These are people who espouse it with

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<v Speaker 2>one hand, we need to be a nation under God,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the other use the instruments of power to

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<v Speaker 2>inflict damage and injury upon those who have less power,

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<v Speaker 2>who are less fortunate, who have less resources. These are

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<v Speaker 2>the same people who talk about God but have no

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<v Speaker 2>problem human trafficking migrants from one part of this country

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<v Speaker 2>to the other to make a political point. These are

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<v Speaker 2>people who believe in quote unquote being pro life, but

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<v Speaker 2>can't seem to muster the courage to pass laws that

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<v Speaker 2>would stop innocent Americans from being mowed down by weapons

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<v Speaker 2>of war everywhere that we look. This is exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>type of country that people like Mike Johnson want, And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not an accident that he is now the figurehead

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<v Speaker 2>that's presiding over one of the branches of government. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's incredibly disturbing that someone who played such a central

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<v Speaker 2>role in trying to overthrow the twenty twenty election is

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<v Speaker 2>now going to be in a position where he could

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<v Speaker 2>refuse even bring up for a vote certification of the

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<v Speaker 2>next presidential election.

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<v Speaker 1>So this man is now two heartbeats away from the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>He is in the succession line of succession for the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>And while some people seem to have been taken off

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<v Speaker 1>guard because he was not vetted, he's not a known

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<v Speaker 1>quantity and name in the way that we have come

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<v Speaker 1>to understand Matt Gates and a Lauren Bobert and a

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<v Speaker 1>Marjorie Taylor Green and so on and so forth. That

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom and sewer for which the Republican Party will

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<v Speaker 1>go to pull out their leadership still seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a shock to people. And I'm just curious as to

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<v Speaker 1>why you think that that is that mainstream media will

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<v Speaker 1>turn this man into a normal, normal politician, which by

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<v Speaker 1>virtue of the list that I read and that you

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<v Speaker 1>just espoused is not is anything, but they will normalize him.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wonder while mainstream media chases its tail

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<v Speaker 1>to try and both sides the hell out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that Republicans have installed maga mic, what's the goal here? Right? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's what's the endgame? What's the win for them?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this they wanted to cheer, right this they cheered,

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<v Speaker 1>Where does it? Where does it go?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the endgame is what's started on January sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that their goal is to try to ensure

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<v Speaker 2>that at no point in time will anyone who looks

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<v Speaker 2>or things stiffly than them is allowed to achieve the

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<v Speaker 2>rains of power ever again. And if that means throwing

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<v Speaker 2>out democracy, so be it. If that means violence, so

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<v Speaker 2>be it. If that means getting rid of all the

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<v Speaker 2>democratic norms that have upheld this country for two centuries,

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<v Speaker 2>so be it. They don't care about those things. They

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<v Speaker 2>are willing to do and say and perpetrate any act

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<v Speaker 2>of harm and injury against this country because they have

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<v Speaker 2>convinced themselves that the ends justified the means, that it

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<v Speaker 2>is a righteous war, righteous civil war that they are

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<v Speaker 2>inflicting on the rest of us. And even though there

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<v Speaker 2>are more of us than there are of them, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do everything they can to silence us. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we see it all the time in the partisan Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>Mandarin in states like Georgia, where they try to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that all the people who look like you and

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<v Speaker 2>I do are grouped in one little area, have little representation,

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<v Speaker 2>access to fewer resources, so that they can suppress and

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<v Speaker 2>silence our voices. Mike, you know Maga. Mike is just

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<v Speaker 2>the living embodiment of that ideology, you know, in a

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks of Brothers suit, if you will, he will get

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<v Speaker 2>the past from media because he appears more presentable than

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other Mada like figure, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>other Moguli cultists. But he's not. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>like there's people who try to convince us somehow that

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<v Speaker 2>Glenn Youngkin isn't dangerous because he wears a little fleece

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<v Speaker 2>vest once in a while. Yeah, it's like this is

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<v Speaker 2>the trap that media falls into and sets for themselves

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again. And now they're so

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<v Speaker 2>busy trying to curry favor and access because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>matters more to them, the inside baseball game of it all,

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<v Speaker 2>that they will look past all of these other very

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<v Speaker 2>public and aren't right to range statements that he has

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<v Speaker 2>made about women's right to choose, about linking being gay

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<v Speaker 2>to somehow being a pedophile, and yet he has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to say about people like Matt Gates, who you know

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly sleep in traffic with underage women, be that as

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<v Speaker 2>man like. It is mind blowing that the this far

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<v Speaker 2>into Trump is and we're seven eight years now into

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<v Speaker 2>this whole cycle of hell that the media continues to

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<v Speaker 2>just fail. You know, there's that that Washington Post slogan,

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<v Speaker 2>democracy dies in darkness. Now democracy died on your watch? Yeh,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the slogan, because that's what's happened. And the

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<v Speaker 2>normalization and the both sides and isms, the utter bullshit

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<v Speaker 2>that we see day in and day out contributes to

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<v Speaker 2>that and and and legitimizes these insane figures. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>all week long the media toss around phrases like moderate

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about Republicans who may not be willing to

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<v Speaker 2>vote for an election denier, and yet at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day they all did there is no moderate

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<v Speaker 2>Republican part Like, what are you? Who are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>And if the definition of a moderate is someone who

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<v Speaker 2>just believes in democracy, then you better call an AOC

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<v Speaker 2>a moderate. You better start calling the squad a moderate

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<v Speaker 2>because they believe in democracy. And if that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>criteria we're going to use, not for Republicans, and you

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<v Speaker 2>better damn well apply that to democrats Otherwise, what the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>What really worries me? As we are eight years deep

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<v Speaker 1>into trump Ism, eight years deep into magaism. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>there seems to be nothing that deters the Trump train,

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<v Speaker 1>right that we thought that if you get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the person. The person is now saddled with foreign indictments

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one charges, they will leave. If you show that

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<v Speaker 1>all of these election deniers, these people who walked into

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<v Speaker 1>courtrooms and lied right about the twenty twenty election, are

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<v Speaker 1>now facing their own indictments. Oh, that will deter people, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't. It has incurred, and we are just months

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<v Speaker 1>away from the calendar year changing to twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>to it being, yes, the most consequential election of our time,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Biden's poll numbers right now, and everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>listens to this show knows that I don't believe them,

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to say something. I hadn't seen the

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<v Speaker 1>poll numbers drop below forty and they are good and

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<v Speaker 1>well below forty percent, and I think that is not

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom. What do you make of how the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>the narrative needs to shift because everything is important. We

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<v Speaker 1>just had another mass shooting. We are facing two wars

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<v Speaker 1>right in two different regions of the world. You are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the alliances develop between different axes, right different from

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two. So I'm just curious as to what

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<v Speaker 1>does the case look like to make because there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many cases and so many issues that are unfolding

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<v Speaker 1>at one time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the question that I would like people

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<v Speaker 2>to be asked and polls isn't do you like Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you approve of Joe Biden? Are you excited about

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden? Because we already know what those answers are.

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<v Speaker 2>In general, the question I care most about is are

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<v Speaker 2>you willing to surrender our country to Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>MAGA extremists instead of voting for Joe Biden? Because that's

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<v Speaker 2>really the choice. That's the only choice that we have

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<v Speaker 2>right now heading in to twenty twenty four. It's either

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden or it's giving the country to Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson and all of these

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<v Speaker 2>extremists that are dangerous. That's the pulling question I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to see someone actually ask, because that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>one that really matters, because that's the only choice we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have. I don't give a shit if you're

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<v Speaker 2>excited about Joe Biden. Does your lack of enthusiasm mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're willing to give the country to Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party because that's the only choice that we're facing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is binary. It is one or the other. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but it's not a hard

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<v Speaker 2>choice for me to make to say, yeah, I'm fine

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<v Speaker 2>staying the course with Joe Biden rather than turning our

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<v Speaker 2>country and the range of power and a nuclear arsenal

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<v Speaker 2>and the ability to declare war over to Putin's up

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<v Speaker 2>at Donald Trump. Like this should not be a hard

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<v Speaker 2>choice to make, frankly, and I think that's somewhat the

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<v Speaker 2>case that we're going to have to make in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. It's not that Joe Biden is so great,

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<v Speaker 2>that he's so awesome, that he's so inspirational and generational. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very simple. The other side wants to wipe people

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<v Speaker 2>like us off the face of this earth. The other

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<v Speaker 2>side believes that you and I should be discriminated against

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<v Speaker 2>and targeted and profiled because we look like what we

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<v Speaker 2>look like, and we speak the truth about what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in this country. The other side believes that because

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<v Speaker 2>you are a woman, you are less than a man,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you shouldn't even be able to use the

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<v Speaker 2>highways if you might be pursuing an abortion. The other

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<v Speaker 2>side believes that it's totally acceptable for you to go

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<v Speaker 2>to school, to a grocery store, to a place of worship,

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<v Speaker 2>to a bullying alley, to a concert, and you may

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<v Speaker 2>not come out of that alive because you were shot

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<v Speaker 2>with the weapon of war that they say is the

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional right for everybody to have. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a hard choice for people when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at that way to make Yeah, I think there's an

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<v Speaker 2>obvious choice, and it's the complete opposite of the one

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<v Speaker 2>that the modern Republicans are presenting to us. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that they have made a huge political error and elevating

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Johnson to the speakership. I think that this is

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<v Speaker 2>someone who is the living, breathing illustration of everything that

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<v Speaker 2>we have seen voters reject time and again in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>If Republicans think that doubling down on a national abortion

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<v Speaker 2>ban is going to somehow work for them politically, I

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<v Speaker 2>have seen no evidence of that. They think that relitigating

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty election is going to work for them,

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen no evidence of why that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the old adage of be careful what you

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<v Speaker 2>wish for, you might get it. Maggia, extreme is wanted

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<v Speaker 2>when they're onn of the Speaker's chair, they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>elevate that person to become a national figure. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>have it, Let's see how this really goes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Kurt, everything that you just laid out is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right, and it's the case that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be made. I'm wondering, though, with the

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<v Speaker 1>elevation of a Mike Johnson to the speakership, are we

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<v Speaker 1>missing something here? Right? Because these people they're not looking

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<v Speaker 1>to gain constituents, they're not looking to gain your vote.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just curious, like, do you think that we

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<v Speaker 1>are missing something like is there a game behind the

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<v Speaker 1>game that is being played that we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of? Right? Because what I find is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we always joke, we say, oh, they're playing chess and

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing checkers. They're they're playing chess and they're playing Yazi,

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever it is is there. Do you foresee that

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<v Speaker 1>there is another game, another pull that they are playing

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<v Speaker 1>and banking on and we're not aware of right now?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think so, because if you were

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<v Speaker 2>to ask seven days ago, Mike Johnson, if you think

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be the Speaker of the House, he

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<v Speaker 2>would have said, what the hell are you talking about.

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Mike Johnson is a speaker that nobody wanted. This was

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<v Speaker 2>not someone that people were pining for talking about leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to this. I think that he is so in

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<v Speaker 2>over his head that this is just going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one blunder after another. It's just going to be amateur hour,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to cost him their congressional majority in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four. I don't think that Mike Johnson or

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<v Speaker 2>anyone in his orbit have the slightest clue what to

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<v Speaker 2>actually do next. Now. The level of scrutiny, the colonoscopy

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 2>that he's about to experience, he has never seen anything

0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 2>like it before. He is unprepared for that. And while

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<v Speaker 2>there might be a moment in time where the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rally around their speaker to try to wash

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<v Speaker 2>away the embarrassment of the last three weeks, when pushed

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<v Speaker 2>come the shove, it's the same dynamics that were impossible

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<v Speaker 2>for Kevin McCarthy to navigate. They still exist right now.

0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:11.399
<v Speaker 2>They just may not hate this guy as much as

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<v Speaker 2>they hated Kevin McCarthy. Give it time, like someone is

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<v Speaker 2>going to shoot their mouth up. Someone's gonna say, oh,

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 2>this guy's in overhead. We may have made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone's gonna float. We might have to do this again. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this guy can get us to November

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<v Speaker 2>of next year. It is a certainty that that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen, and we will be reliving The Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>certainly would be reliving this Night Mirror at least one

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<v Speaker 2>more time between now and next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you real quick before I let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>The government shut down is still looming. Right. All they

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<v Speaker 1>did was kick the can down the road until November seventeenth, right,

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.199
<v Speaker 1>which is just a handful of weeks away. You now

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody that is in the Speakership that is still

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<v Speaker 1>a fractured caucus. You still have to work with Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>in order to to actually get these twelve bills passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this shutdown just inevitable?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they're gonna punt one more time and

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a way to kind of give the

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<v Speaker 2>speaker a few more weeks or months. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to hold him accountable for whatever happens

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<v Speaker 2>in the next twenty days, because they're just gonna say, listen,

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>this is the hand he was dealt. He just became speaker.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know anything. Let's just get through this immediate

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<v Speaker 2>thing and then focus on the bigger budgetary picture heading

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<v Speaker 2>into next year. So I would not be surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>they punt on this. Also, this is a situation where

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll see the elevation again of Mitch McConnell

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<v Speaker 2>and the Senate Republicans starting to take a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more of a hands on approach since they are obviously

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<v Speaker 2>more seasoned that they have been in the game more.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a guy in Speaker Johnson who's never been

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<v Speaker 2>at the negotiating table with the President the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Senate Republican leader, with the Democrat leaders, like

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<v Speaker 2>he has no track record, no experience doing any of this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing the mouth off to talk radio about

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<v Speaker 2>what you don't like is going on. I think to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the room, to be in the room where

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<v Speaker 2>the decisions are happening, to be at the negotiating table.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I say he's in over his head.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to get a little honeymoon grace period. They will,

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<v Speaker 2>they will give him a pass on whatever happens in

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the next three weeks. But after that that honeymoon is

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 2>going to be over and they're just going to be

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<v Speaker 2>right back to where they have happen, which is dysfunction junction.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that we get Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>he gets booted?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that eventually a full of like the

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<v Speaker 1>year in twenty twenty four, like, does he make it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I think that he'll get booted. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that they'll say he's in over his head. He's an amateur,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just not up for the job. Nothing personal against them,

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<v Speaker 2>but but they're going to say we need we need

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<v Speaker 2>a professional heading into twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Unreal? All right, Kurt, Well we will. We will hold

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<v Speaker 1>it there and he'll come, but we will come back

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<v Speaker 1>to you. We will put the lettuce out and see

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>which turns for Earth, because that is the fiasco that

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<v Speaker 1>we are in with Republicans holding the gavel, which I

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>pray they will not hold in twenty twenty four. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because God, I only wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>a crystal ball. Kurt Bardella always appreciate you and your

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<v Speaker 1>analysis on woke f Oh can.

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<v Speaker 2>You see you? My friend?

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today. Dear friends on woke

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<v Speaker 1>f as always power to the people and to all

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<v Speaker 1>the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fun.