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Speaker 2: talk about the hype and the lack of production for
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and North Carolina last night, and certainly Arch
Speaker 2: Manning and Texas, Ohio State.
Speaker 3: A big winner.
Speaker 2: Florida State, I thought was the biggest winner of the weekend,
Speaker 2: upsetting Alabama, LSU going into Clemson getting a win that
Speaker 2: was big as well. Miami holding off Notre Dame South Carolina.
Speaker 2: They're a fun team. They roughed up Virginia Tech and TCU.
Speaker 2: Of course, that was the other team in Bill Belichick's debut.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to be a trivial
Speaker 2: pursuit question years from now, who is the team that
Speaker 2: beat Bill Belichick in his college football debut. I don't know,
Speaker 2: because TCU got no attention last night eight seven to
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Speaker 3: Twos pole question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have up there coverage that didn't match the
Speaker 4: reality arch Manning or Bill Belichick? Right now, Bill's got
Speaker 4: about sixty four percent of that vote that his all
Speaker 4: that hype didn't really match the way that team performs.
Speaker 2: No, the fact they were blown out. At least arch
Speaker 2: Manning had a chance to win that game. They were
Speaker 2: in the game at the end. Belichick the second half
Speaker 2: that they had no shot whatsoever. Right, pull question for
Speaker 2: hour two is going to be, let's there's something positive? Huh?
Speaker 2: Who had the best weekend? Oh, we love to do
Speaker 2: that on a Monday. On a Tuesday, that's really a Monday, man.
Speaker 2: We have best and worst of the weekend. Your phone
Speaker 2: calls eight seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler's
Speaker 2: sitting by. What are the nominees for who had the
Speaker 2: best weekend?
Speaker 4: Well, the Miami Hurricanes certainly started. They had a great weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a great way to start. Florida State. Florida State
Speaker 4: would be option number two on that list. Yes, if
Speaker 4: you change one letter from FSU, LSU had a great
Speaker 4: and they would start as well. Ls or Lee Corso,
Speaker 4: I thought you were have FU.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, if you just.
Speaker 2: Take out the s or Lee Corso you had a
Speaker 2: great weekend, I'd say Lee Corso, I had the best weekend.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That was a great sendoff. And man, decades decades of entertainment,
Speaker 2: what that show meant to college football? What he's meant
Speaker 2: to college football to be able to start your career
Speaker 2: with the headgear and it's brutus the Buckeye, and then
Speaker 2: you end it with the same. All of his picks
Speaker 2: ended up winning. All of the schools that he coached
Speaker 2: ended up winning. The coach you know where he played,
Speaker 2: Florida State ended up winning. It was great And I
Speaker 2: want to give a special shout out to Kirk Herbstreet
Speaker 2: because Herbie was so good in the last couple of
Speaker 2: years with coach Coach Corso. He knew that coach was
Speaker 2: struggling a little bit. But Herbie was so good and
Speaker 2: so attentive and listening and trying to help him along.
Speaker 2: And I thought he did a wonderful job. And you know,
Speaker 2: as somebody who's been in TV for a long time,
Speaker 2: just to understand so small, subtle, but really it was
Speaker 2: very important to make sure that Lee Corso, you know,
Speaker 2: didn't embarrass himself, you know, or feel you know, bad
Speaker 2: about his performance. And you know, obviously, you know, struggling
Speaker 2: and at his age, obviously understandable. But Herbie did a
Speaker 2: great job. And it's small thing, and it's just kind
Speaker 2: of like they're where you're going to help him if
Speaker 2: it looks like he might stumble a little bit. But
Speaker 2: it's a it's a great show, wonderful h They've got talent,
Speaker 2: and the talent knows what they're they're they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: McAfee as the hype master. Saban is so he's so good,
Speaker 2: has a sneaky, sneaky sense of humor that I love.
Speaker 2: And Reese is wonderful, you know, to do that, and
Speaker 2: sometimes you forget who's doing it. And Chris Fowler before him.
Speaker 2: Desmond in there having won, won a super Bowl, won
Speaker 2: a high They just and Fox is still trying to
Speaker 2: figure that out. And I was kind of flipping back
Speaker 2: and forth to see how they were going to use
Speaker 2: Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports, and you know, they won him.
Speaker 2: I think in the McAfee role, it was it was
Speaker 2: more w W. E was more aggressive than it needed
Speaker 2: to be. You know, obviously he went to Michigan, doesn't
Speaker 2: like Ohio State. Wanted to kind of rile up the
Speaker 2: fans there. But Urban Meyer is not Nick Saban.
Speaker 3: Uh. You know, Rob Stone does a great job.
Speaker 2: And you got linerd in there, Brady Quinn in there,
Speaker 2: mark Ingram in there. They're trying, they're trying, and they're
Speaker 2: trying to go head to head with them, and I think, uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's the same thing that happened when I was
Speaker 2: at Sports Center and Keith Oberman and Chris Myers went
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports and they were going to develop their
Speaker 2: own sports center and I'm like, man, good luck. My
Speaker 2: My quote was pack of lunch, dude, and you don't
Speaker 2: pack dinner as well, because you have a head start
Speaker 2: on people with your viewing patterns, and it's rare when
Speaker 2: you change your viewing patterns. Now, what helps Fox is
Speaker 2: they did have that big game and you're tuning in,
Speaker 2: and maybe you tune in and you see something, and
Speaker 2: then maybe you tune in for a little longer. The
Speaker 2: next time. You got to play the long game. And
Speaker 2: TV people don't play the long game. They're like, no,
Speaker 2: that didn't work, let's change it. But if you're going
Speaker 2: to go after ESPN in college game day that's been
Speaker 2: a staple for decades, you gotta be strategic and you
Speaker 2: got to be willing to be in for the long
Speaker 2: haul because it's not going to happen overnight. I don't
Speaker 2: care who you have in there. It doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker 2: And even if it does, you got to be a
Speaker 2: little suspicious about that. And you want to make sure
Speaker 2: that people are tuning in their regular you know, that's
Speaker 2: your fan base. But if you get drive bys, you know,
Speaker 2: just curiosity seekers, maybe you get some of them to stay.
Speaker 2: But Game Day know what they're doing. They know they've
Speaker 2: got the formula. They created the formulas. It's Coca cola
Speaker 2: versus pepsi, and Fox is hoping they're pepsi to Coke
Speaker 2: because ESPN does a wonderful job, but a nice send
Speaker 2: off for a coach Corso and you know, now it
Speaker 2: turns out now it's McAfee's show, McAfee and Urban kind
Speaker 2: of going back and forth, and.
Speaker 3: You know that's a saving I should say.
Speaker 2: But those guys going back and forth and having fun
Speaker 2: with each other and kind of the young guy, the
Speaker 2: old guy, loud guy, quiet guy, player coach, all of
Speaker 2: that and it works, and the features are wonderful as well.
Speaker 2: That Game Day comes to town. It's a big deal,
Speaker 2: a big deal, and Fox be patient, be patient, yeampooning.
Speaker 5: It's fun to learn more about the history of game Day,
Speaker 5: which we know, but to have everyone see that the
Speaker 5: first headset pick, a brutus at Ohio State, almost didn't
Speaker 5: happen and Herbstreet's wife had to help broker the deal.
Speaker 5: And then became such appointment programming that even if you
Speaker 5: didn't watch all of Game Day, when you knew the
Speaker 5: headset pick was coming, you'd turned back and check it
Speaker 5: out and see the crowd go berserk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm old enough to remember coach Corso when he
Speaker 2: was at Indiana and he wasn't you know, he was
Speaker 2: an average college coach. But this is what ESPN is
Speaker 2: able to do. Dick fi Town was an average, below
Speaker 2: average coach. Kirbye wasn't a great college player. I mean
Speaker 2: Desmond won the Heisman. You know, David Pollock when he
Speaker 2: was on There's a former first round pick of the
Speaker 2: Bengals but got injured. You know, you're but ESPN will
Speaker 2: make a star out of you. That's the power of ESPN.
Speaker 2: I mean, Chris Fowler was not even on Sports Center
Speaker 2: and he became a star there. Uh you know, I
Speaker 2: think that's that's where it's the four letters and how
Speaker 2: powerful those four letters are. And I certainly understood that
Speaker 2: when I got out of ESPN, and it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you used to work at ESPN, Like, uh okay. It
Speaker 2: was kind of a reality check there. And most people
Speaker 2: who leave ESPN find that out that all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're not as popular, not as good, not as many
Speaker 2: people care.
Speaker 3: It's like you used to work at ESPN.
Speaker 2: But in fact, when people ask, and when I left,
Speaker 2: I had a couple of anchors who wanted They were like, hey,
Speaker 2: how do I do what you're doing? I said, stay there,
Speaker 2: stay there, you know, don't this is I'm making this
Speaker 2: look it's not easy. Stay there, and three of them
Speaker 2: did and they made the right decision. But it's powerful, man,
Speaker 2: those letters still powerful and watching that and understanding John Clayton.
Speaker 2: John Clayton became a household name, certainly in the sports
Speaker 2: world because of ESPN, and then they make a commercial
Speaker 2: with John. You know, but by Town Town wasn't a
Speaker 2: good coach, but then all of a sudden he had
Speaker 2: a style and became a star. That's the power, and
Speaker 2: that's what Fox is up against. You're going to You're
Speaker 2: not going against people as much as you're going a thing.
Speaker 2: You're going against game day. It's game days in town.
Speaker 2: It's not McAfee's in town or Saban's in town. It's
Speaker 2: this that big semi truck comes in and game days
Speaker 2: in town. But got to watch a lot of the
Speaker 2: coverage over the weekend with college football and it's great.
Speaker 2: Got NFL coming up. Also, the Matthew Stafford situation. I
Speaker 2: guess he's going to play in Week one. It was
Speaker 2: a little bit of an uncertainty there with his back,
Speaker 2: but this is going to linger. He's thirty seven. Nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna question his toughness, but is he going to be
Speaker 2: able to play? And this is where is Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 2: as Plan B going to be enough for the Rams?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like at some point you're gonna need
Speaker 2: Jimmy gar I mean this happens to even young quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: But they brought in a high end backup quarterback who's
Speaker 2: been to a Super Bowl. And you're asking Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: to hold up for seventeen games and then go into
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Uh, you know he's going to be there.
Speaker 2: I still wonder about Kirk Cousins and does he end
Speaker 2: up on a roster at some point this year?
Speaker 3: And I feel like that he will.
Speaker 2: And if you had that early injury to a team
Speaker 2: that's really good, and that's when you go, we don't
Speaker 2: we don't want to lose this season.
Speaker 3: You could bring in Kirk Cousin.
Speaker 2: Now he's going to cost you, but I still feel
Speaker 2: like Kirk Cousins could play a large role in what's
Speaker 2: going to happen this year. All Right, we got our
Speaker 2: poll question Lucas in Texas. Hi, Luke lead us off
Speaker 2: this hour best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 6: Hey the end of.
Speaker 7: Morning morning, I'll quick best and worse, and then a
Speaker 7: couple of additions maybe to the poll question best, I'll well,
Speaker 7: I will give credit to the Big Young kickoff on Fox.
Speaker 7: They don't typically yield territory to ESPN, but they did
Speaker 7: the last few minutes of their broadcast to also pig
Speaker 7: tribute to Corso, and I thought that was a classic move.
Speaker 7: I did appreciate that a worse in today's college football team,
Speaker 7: not being the center of attention, not being talked about,
Speaker 7: is almost as bad as being a bad team. And
Speaker 7: I had to go out of my way to look
Speaker 7: up USC's score. I mean, they just feel like they
Speaker 7: have fallen off the football to the edge of the
Speaker 7: football world in some means. And so that was definitely
Speaker 7: something that was noticeable to me this weekend. A couple
Speaker 7: of additions to the who had the best weekend? Paul
Speaker 7: I like to go individuals. Shane Beemer calling a part
Speaker 7: return back to score a special teams touchdown to beat
Speaker 7: his dad's school, and his own school was pretty cool.
Speaker 7: Team Gus Melaton run over Alabama as the OC at
Speaker 7: Florida State, you know, once every five years or so.
Speaker 7: He's good for just destroying an Alabama team and that's
Speaker 7: always fun to watch. Well, what about up or one
Speaker 7: other one? How about one Bob Kraft? I think rober
Speaker 7: Kraft had a pretty good weekend, if we all know
Speaker 7: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, I think having Drake May and Mike rabel h
Speaker 2: He's already won. I don't think Belichick losing makes Robert Kraft,
Speaker 2: you know, look any better. They moved on, they needed
Speaker 2: to move on. Yeah, they made the right decision. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: They made the wrong decision on Brady, They made right
Speaker 2: decision on Bill. Yes, Tom, do you think.
Speaker 8: Rober Kraft took joy in what happened last night?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's one thing, you know, to move.
Speaker 8: On and you know and that you know their patriots
Speaker 8: are going forward and everything. But I'm just curious that
Speaker 8: what he how he felt to me?
Speaker 3: What do you think? I think he had a little
Speaker 3: grin there, Okay, a little smirk. Keith and Chico. Hi, Keith,
Speaker 3: what's on your mind?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6: Five six, one seventy. Best of the weekend.
Speaker 7: I wanted to comment on how good Bryce Underwood looked
Speaker 7: for his Michigan debut.
Speaker 3: It looks really big and strong.
Speaker 7: The worst of the weekend. I thought the offensive game
Speaker 7: for Ohio State and Texas was just atrocious.
Speaker 3: They need to take off the training wheels.
Speaker 6: Thanks again, Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised at how boring their offenses were.
Speaker 2: I didn't think Texas would have a boring offense Ohio State.
Speaker 2: I understand that when you're starting somebody and he's making
Speaker 2: his first start. Granted it's at home against Texas, but
Speaker 2: they got weapons wide receivers.
Speaker 3: I I don't know. I was surprised that it wasn't
Speaker 3: a little more step on the accelerator was.
Speaker 2: I was surprised at Texas because Steve Sarkisian is supposed
Speaker 2: to man. He can dial up some play. I get
Speaker 2: the first quarter, let let him ease in that after that.
Speaker 2: You're in this game. Now, I might say, we're in
Speaker 2: this game. We don't want to take chances, okay, but
Speaker 2: I thought you might see a little more aggressive.
Speaker 3: Manner from Texas and it just didn't happen.
Speaker 9: Yes, Marv, I mean he drew up some good plays
Speaker 9: on the last drive, only if the throws were a
Speaker 9: little better.
Speaker 2: When you're nervous, you throw higher. And I remember Brett
Speaker 2: Favre saying this that you know he would get all
Speaker 2: wound up and he would throw higher. Arch was kind
Speaker 2: of an equal opportunity thrower. He would throw low or
Speaker 2: throw high. And then Sarkesian said, hey, he's got to
Speaker 2: stop that side arm stuff that he was throwing a
Speaker 2: few of those. Yes, Marv, but.
Speaker 3: He was showing off the wheels. Though. He's got mobility.
Speaker 3: I mean, yes he does.
Speaker 2: I mean they made him sound like a track star
Speaker 2: and he's not RG three man. Hey, man, he can
Speaker 2: beat you with his legs.
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, Mark, Well it was because of the last
Speaker 9: name Manning Wheels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's got him.
Speaker 9: But as far as like football speed, no, but Manning speed.
Speaker 6: He's a burn.
Speaker 3: No, he's got athleticism.
Speaker 5: So he does fast for a Manning or fast?
Speaker 2: No, he's I think he's fast. He might be Andrew
Speaker 2: Luck type fast. He's not RG three fast. Not many
Speaker 2: people are. We'll talk to our G three.
Speaker 3: He'll join us. Coming up next.
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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls coming up, best and worst
Speaker 2: of the weekend. We will give you hours coming up
Speaker 2: a little bit. RG three newest edition to the Fox
Speaker 2: College Football Analyst Team. He was on the call for
Speaker 2: his alma mater versus Auburn uh oh, and he'll have
Speaker 2: Delaware in Colorado coming up this Saturday. Also check out
Speaker 2: his podcast out of Pocket with RG three. We made
Speaker 2: a big deal about arch Manning's debut. Not many players
Speaker 2: make their debut on a national stage against the defending
Speaker 2: national champs on the road. Here, it feels like we
Speaker 2: should be grading on a curve here RG three because
Speaker 2: Peyton started out with who did Peyton play?
Speaker 6: East Carolina?
Speaker 3: EA's Carolina, and then Eli started out with Morgan State
Speaker 3: or something, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Murray State, and then Arch starts out with Ohio State.
Speaker 2: How do you okay, what do you take away from
Speaker 2: Arch's debut?
Speaker 11: Well, Dan Payton also, you know, had a pretty bad
Speaker 11: game against Washington State when he went seven to fourteen,
Speaker 11: had a takeover and during that game, and they still
Speaker 11: won that game ten to nine. But for me, with
Speaker 11: Arch Manning, this is just the epitome of the media
Speaker 11: building him up just to tear him back down. And
Speaker 11: there's a lot of people jumping ship on him. But
Speaker 11: I do think you're allowed to say that he struggled.
Speaker 6: He did.
Speaker 11: He misthrows mechanically, he looked like something was bothering him.
Speaker 11: I don't know if maybe his shoulder was hurting or something,
Speaker 11: but he wasn't following through in a lot of his throws.
Speaker 11: Then they were going at guy's ankles, you know, really
Speaker 11: throughout the entirety of the game. So I think for Arch, listen,
Speaker 11: that Manning name on the back of your jersey is
Speaker 11: going to add extra scrutiny to everything that he does.
Speaker 11: But I don't think that he now just doesn't know
Speaker 11: how to play football at all. I think he had
Speaker 11: a bad game. I think we're all allowed to have
Speaker 11: a bad day, and how he responds moving forward throughout
Speaker 11: the rest of the season will really determine all of
Speaker 11: his hopes and dreams being the number one pick, you know,
Speaker 11: being a Heisman Trophy winner or Trophy candidate in general
Speaker 11: will all be determined by how he plays the rest
Speaker 11: of the year. But I think people piling on him
Speaker 11: now are really just trying to take shots at the
Speaker 11: mannings that they feel like they've never had a true
Speaker 11: chance to do.
Speaker 6: And I don't think that's right.
Speaker 2: But this is what surprised me probably the most. You
Speaker 2: got Steve Sarcusian. He played the position. He's an offensive
Speaker 2: minded head coach. You're going against a defense that led
Speaker 2: is led by Matt Patricia, who, of course with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: What could Matt Patricia possibly dial up scheme that Steve
Speaker 2: Sarkisian wouldn't go, Hey, I've seen that before or I
Speaker 2: haven't seen Like what that's what everybody's like, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: he's game plan, you know, confused Texas how many game
Speaker 2: plan schemes can you have that's going to confuse Steve Syracuseian.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Dan, I don't think that they confused Texas at all.
Speaker 6: And this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 11: We had a lot of people talking about how Arch
Speaker 11: was a generational talent going into this game after him
Speaker 11: only starting three games.
Speaker 6: Does his name have a little bit.
Speaker 11: To do with that, Yes, But he also possesses a
Speaker 11: trait that the two most famous Mannings that we know of,
Speaker 11: with Peyton and Eli, really didn't, which was his legs
Speaker 11: and his ability to make plays as a scrambling quarterback
Speaker 11: and as a dual threat. But on the other side
Speaker 11: of that, there's also the protection of Arch where they're saying, oh,
Speaker 11: it wasn't It wasn't Arch, it was the scheme. I
Speaker 11: watched all the tape three times and there are a
Speaker 11: countless amount of plays that Arch didn't make in that game,
Speaker 11: or was short on a throw first pass to the game,
Speaker 11: rolling to his right, throws it at his receiver's ankles.
Speaker 11: And it's okay to bring that up because it's what
Speaker 11: the tape says, and the eye in the sky doesn't lie.
Speaker 11: But when you're a play caller like Steve Sarkisian and
Speaker 11: you're drawing up these plays and they're there. They gave
Speaker 11: him a lot of pure progression reads, which means it
Speaker 11: doesn't matter what Matt Patricia calls here, you're going one
Speaker 11: to two to three, and Arch was getting through his reads.
Speaker 11: He just didn't make those throws. Now you're putting yourself
Speaker 11: behind the eight ball second and long, third and long,
Speaker 11: and those are places you don't want to be on
Speaker 11: the road going against the number three team in the country.
Speaker 11: So I think all these things are very easily fixable.
Speaker 11: But as you know, in this media game, it gets
Speaker 11: to extremes where people are piling on him too much
Speaker 11: or they're protecting him too much. At the end of
Speaker 11: the day, Arch Manning has to go out there and
Speaker 11: make the plays that are there. I don't think Steve
Speaker 11: Sarkisian was trying to protect him with his play calls.
Speaker 11: I just think that it just wasn't their day.
Speaker 2: If Alabama is averaged this season finished, that sentence.
Speaker 6: Is what is average?
Speaker 3: Dan, give me a record five loss four or five losses?
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, Kaitlyn the Boar's tired and I'm a Kaitlyn
Speaker 11: de Boor guy. He's been a winner everywhere he's been.
Speaker 11: Just to me, with Alabama, it kind of reminds me
Speaker 11: of like players when they go to a different place
Speaker 11: and they find success where they didn't have it in
Speaker 11: the previous stop. Sometimes it's not that the player can't play,
Speaker 11: they're just not in the right system.
Speaker 6: It's not the right fit.
Speaker 11: And for Kaylen de Bor, if Alabama loses four to
Speaker 11: five games this year, that doesn't fly. At Alabama, there's
Speaker 11: an expectation of greatness and expectation of national championships, an
Speaker 11: expectation of at least being in the national championship picture.
Speaker 11: And September is going to be very, very difficult. They're
Speaker 11: playing Georgia here in a few weeks, and Kaylen de
Speaker 11: Bor's leadership style is like the complete opposite in contrast
Speaker 11: to Nick Saban and how he handled his team. But
Speaker 11: I do believe that the fear factor of playing against
Speaker 11: Bama has been eroded by a number of things, not
Speaker 11: just Saban not being there, but also in nil the
Speaker 11: transfer portal. Bama's just not as deep as it used
Speaker 11: to be and doesn't have that factor of hey, our
Speaker 11: three deep is better than your starters, because those three
Speaker 11: deeps are now playing at other schools, which is leveling
Speaker 11: the playing field in college football. So that's my long
Speaker 11: way of answering and saying I love Kaylen Deboor. I
Speaker 11: think he's a great coach. He just might not be
Speaker 11: the coach for Alabama. But if he wins and they
Speaker 11: end up being in the National Championship picture, I do
Speaker 11: think that he survives.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to RG three Funks, college football analyst and
Speaker 2: his podcast out of Pocket with RG three.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember when Kaitlyn de Boor joined us when he
Speaker 2: went to Alabama. I said, do you know what you're
Speaker 2: getting into? And he was like yeah, And I'm like
Speaker 2: you even if you think you know what you're getting into,
Speaker 2: you're not. It'd be like trying to be the president
Speaker 2: of the United States. You know what you're getting into?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think no, you have no idea,
Speaker 2: even Belichick getting into college football. Okay, seventy new players
Speaker 2: and you're having eighteen and nineteen year olds. You know
Speaker 2: this isn't NFL, you know, veteran taking care of business.
Speaker 3: Seventy new players. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like, if they win eight games, that's probably what is expected.
Speaker 2: But after last night, if I said eight wins over
Speaker 2: under you would take.
Speaker 6: Oh, I'd take the under.
Speaker 11: There's a deeper conversation here with Bill Belichick in this
Speaker 11: North Carolina team as well. You talk about those seventy
Speaker 11: new players you mentioned Dan in the NFL. These guys
Speaker 11: are trying to, you know, put food on the plates
Speaker 11: of their family, right, grown men, They understand their responsibilities.
Speaker 6: They take it as a job.
Speaker 11: Those seventy new players are trying to figure out where
Speaker 11: the utensils go at the dinner table.
Speaker 6: Right. So these guys, these are young men, and you're
Speaker 6: having to mold them.
Speaker 11: And I'm not saying, hey, throw in the towel on
Speaker 11: Bill Belichick and Lombardi and what they're trying to build
Speaker 11: there at Chapel Hill. What I am saying is that
Speaker 11: it was not recognizable for a Bill Belichick football team.
Speaker 6: He always talks about doing your job.
Speaker 11: They lost a turnover battle right three to one through
Speaker 11: an interception, had four fumbles and they lost only two
Speaker 11: of them. But they gave up one hundred yard rusher,
Speaker 11: they gave up one hundred yard receiver, and then quarterback
Speaker 11: Josh Hoover threw for two hundred and eighty four yards.
Speaker 11: So for me, you watch the defense, no gap, integrity,
Speaker 11: no identity. They weren't running to the football. And Kendall
Speaker 11: Brows is the offensive coordinator for TCU, and he was
Speaker 11: our receiver coach when I was in college. And I
Speaker 11: haven't had a chance to talk to him yet, but
Speaker 11: I know for a fact that every single college coach
Speaker 11: that is going to face Bill Belichick this year is
Speaker 11: licking their chops to show him and show his staff
Speaker 11: that their scheme is better than his. Because for decades now,
Speaker 11: Dan NFL coaches have silently been telling college coaches, hey man,
Speaker 11: that college stuff don't work up here. And now he's
Speaker 11: going to the college realm and they're all going to
Speaker 11: be saying, huh a, Bill, that NFL stuff don't work
Speaker 11: over here. They're going to use this as fuel to
Speaker 11: the fire because I know a lot of players feel
Speaker 11: the same way that the college coaches do. Why aren't
Speaker 11: we running more of these college schemes in the NFL?
Speaker 3: Explain that? To explain that to me in our audience.
Speaker 2: So what exactly is it the North Carolina is trying
Speaker 2: to do that is going to be to their detriment, first.
Speaker 11: And foremost, when you talk about the NFL, game compared
Speaker 11: to the college game. The biggest difference isn't just the
Speaker 11: age of the guys in the maturity level, it's also
Speaker 11: the hash marks. So in college football, the hashes are
Speaker 11: much wider, so your boundary side of the field is
Speaker 11: shorter and the field is much wider, So some of
Speaker 11: the gap responsibilities that Bill Belichick is used to because
Speaker 11: of the tight hashes in the NFL they go by
Speaker 11: the wayside. I've had many NFL defensive coordinators when I
Speaker 11: played in college come to college and didn't know how
Speaker 11: to play college quarters because of the hash marks.
Speaker 6: Now you've got a safety play.
Speaker 11: Quarters with way more field that he has to cover
Speaker 11: on the field side, putting him in one on one matchups.
Speaker 11: It's why coverage in college football from the safety position
Speaker 11: is more important than it's ever been in the NFL
Speaker 11: because you can hide those guys and not have them
Speaker 11: on an island against a guy who runs a four
Speaker 11: to two. So when you look at Belichick and what
Speaker 11: their adjustments are gonna have to be, it's the tempo NFL.
Speaker 6: Most teams are only used to Temple in two miniae durals.
Speaker 11: I would just call Baylor versus Auburn both teams are
Speaker 11: in Temple the entire game, it was hard to get
Speaker 11: a replay in. They're gonna have to They're gonna have
Speaker 11: to adjust to those types of things. And then it's
Speaker 11: the it's the new guys. You brought in Go Lopez
Speaker 11: from South Alabama. You got Max Johnson there who came
Speaker 11: at the end of the game and played well although
Speaker 11: the game was already out of hand. Who's going to
Speaker 11: be your quarterback. Who's going to be your difference maker?
Speaker 11: In college? That's way more important than it is at
Speaker 11: the NFL level. If you get one Lamar Jackson in college,
Speaker 11: you can win eight games. In the NFL, you need
Speaker 11: Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry and Zay Flowers and Marlon Humphrey.
Speaker 11: And that's what I think Bill is more used to
Speaker 11: is those already pre qualified players that he knows are
Speaker 11: going to be where they're supposed to be. Now coming
Speaker 11: to the college ranks, it's just a lot different. And
Speaker 11: TCU exploited that Sonny Dyke said, Hey, they're talking about Bill,
Speaker 11: they should be talking about us.
Speaker 6: And I think they prove.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, when you talk about a quarterback make a difference,
Speaker 2: like you with Baylor like Cam at Auburn. Who's the
Speaker 2: greatest college quarterback of all time?
Speaker 3: In your opinion?
Speaker 11: The greatest college quarterback of all time? Just from a
Speaker 11: pure accolade standpoint, you know, I'd have to go with
Speaker 11: Tim Tebow. I think what he was able to accomplish
Speaker 11: at Florida, the speeches, how.
Speaker 2: About one year, one year, one year, greatest college quarterback.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm gonna exclude myself from the summers.
Speaker 2: Of course, is going to put that out unless you
Speaker 2: feel like you're you had the greatest single.
Speaker 11: No, no, no, I just think I think what we
Speaker 11: were able to accomplish that Baylor hasn't been accomplished anywhere
Speaker 11: else in the turnaround that we did. But it's a
Speaker 11: conversation for another time. Again, I would say from a
Speaker 11: single greatest year, man, it's it's it's Cam Newton. It
Speaker 11: has to be Cam going from Blenn going to Auburn.
Speaker 6: Uh, and what.
Speaker 11: He was able to pull off, like some of those
Speaker 11: quarterback powers, Dan, I don't think anybody in the stadium
Speaker 11: wanted to tackle Cam on those quarterback powers.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 11: And to see like he lined up a wide receiver
Speaker 11: and moss the dB like like he.
Speaker 6: Was doing it all that year.
Speaker 11: And I know Cam, Uh, you know, we talk a lot.
Speaker 11: We compete in overtime seven on seven with our with
Speaker 11: our seven on seven football teams. Uh, and Cam is
Speaker 11: he's out there, you know, the clothes, the hats, he
Speaker 11: does his thing. He's got his own swag. But when
Speaker 11: you talk about on the football field, that's probably the
Speaker 11: single greatest season I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: How do the Eagles not go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: They don't stay healthy?
Speaker 11: When you we talked about the dynasty that is the Chiefs,
Speaker 11: the Chiefs were a dynasty. They were trying to do
Speaker 11: something that had never been done before. Now I think
Speaker 11: the Eagles have kind of taken that mantle of all right,
Speaker 11: let's go and repeat and see if we can build
Speaker 11: this thing over time. Uh, they're healthy, they're healthy right now.
Speaker 11: Obviously the combination of it's like the Big five for
Speaker 11: them on offense. You know, it's it's Jalen Hurts, It's
Speaker 11: Sakwon Barkley, AJ Brown, Devonte Smith and Dallas Goddard. That
Speaker 11: big five right there is certainly the best big five,
Speaker 11: uh in the NFL. Because it's never been a big
Speaker 11: five day and it's always been like a big three
Speaker 11: or a big two. So I think for the Eagles,
Speaker 11: as long as they you know, don't get complacent. They're
Speaker 11: they're the favorite to repeat a Super Bowl champs. It's
Speaker 11: just going to come down to them staying healthy. And
Speaker 11: I think Nick Sirianni is actually one of the best
Speaker 11: coaches in the NFL and doesn't get enough credit for
Speaker 11: what he's been able to do to keep that team
Speaker 11: together and focused over the last few years.
Speaker 2: What's it like to go back to pass and you
Speaker 2: have somebody with the athleticism of Micah Parsons like like
Speaker 2: like the it's a split second and you know he's there.
Speaker 2: You got to kind of keep an eye. Well, you
Speaker 2: tell me you're going back to pass and you know
Speaker 2: he's there. What is that feeling like for a quarterback?
Speaker 11: Oh, it's uh, it's it's nightmarish, I would say, because
Speaker 11: because Micah isn't just your Like I knew when I
Speaker 11: when I played DeMarcus where and we were playing with
Speaker 11: the Restings at the time and against Dallas Cowboys, I
Speaker 11: knew I could get away from DeMarcus because I was
Speaker 11: I was more athletic than the Marcus. But with Micah,
Speaker 11: like Micah beat Tyreek Hill in a race now, and
Speaker 11: I know Tyreek was was kind of jogging whatever, but still, uh,
Speaker 11: that was impressive. So you know, with Micah has changed
Speaker 11: the direction his acceleration and his speed. He can't he
Speaker 11: cannot only hit you hard, but he can run you down.
Speaker 11: So I know you're getting into the realm of like
Speaker 11: the Dallas Cowboys and making that trade. It doesn't make
Speaker 11: any sense to me because you kind of paid Duran
Speaker 11: Bland to kind of distract from the fact that you
Speaker 11: traded away Micah Parsons. And I'm always for guys getting
Speaker 11: the bread. I'm happy for Doran, but we're not gonna
Speaker 11: forget that you just trade or traded away the actual
Speaker 11: generational talent that you've been looking for. And you got
Speaker 11: only two first round picks for him. And those two
Speaker 11: first round picks, you know what they're you're hoping they become.
Speaker 11: Then you're hoping they become Micah Parsons. So that to me,
Speaker 11: you got to get at least three first round picks
Speaker 11: for him if you're going to.
Speaker 6: Trade them away.
Speaker 11: I've heard a lot of stuff behind the scenes when
Speaker 11: it comes to Micah, but on the football field, his
Speaker 11: production is very hard to replicate. You have to ask
Speaker 11: yourself who's in a better position now to win the
Speaker 11: Super Bowl? Is it the Dallas Cowboys or is it
Speaker 11: the Green Bay Packers? And I think overwhelmingly it's the
Speaker 11: Green Bay Packers.
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Speaker 2: make some predictions offensive Defensive Player of the Year. Also
Speaker 2: our best and Worst of the weekend. Right after this.
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Speaker 2: Now keep this in mind if you're a fan of
Speaker 2: the Gambling podcast. Sammy p who was a professional gambler
Speaker 2: last year at this time, picked Saquon Barkley to be
Speaker 2: the Offensive Player of the Year at twenty to one
Speaker 2: odds and ended up winning just over twenty two. And
Speaker 2: he split that with Shayan Irving and Dylan the graphics guy,
Speaker 2: and Ray Pa Ray, And I'll tell you Sammy Peas
Speaker 2: picked for the offensive player of the Year this year.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let everybody make their pick for the offensive
Speaker 2: player of the year. There is a if you're watching
Speaker 2: on Peacock, Dylan and Ray they went to Vegas. They
Speaker 2: had to go to Vegas after Tahoe to cash their ticket.
Speaker 2: And then I thought they won't have any money. On
Speaker 2: the way back. Shyan Irving flies out to meet them
Speaker 2: out there, and I'm wondering if they're coming back at all.
Speaker 2: But they actually came back. They made some money, all right.
Speaker 2: Let me throw out a couple of things here. Who
Speaker 2: will lead the NFL in passing yards? Paul will start
Speaker 2: with you best odds according to DraftKings. Now that the
Speaker 2: person who is second on this list might surprise you.
Speaker 2: First on the list, I don't think will surprise you.
Speaker 5: This guy has very little defense and a lot of offense.
Speaker 5: It's gotta be Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is correct. Who is second?
Speaker 2: Who is second according to DraftKings best odds to lead
Speaker 2: the NFL in passing seaton? You said surprising, yes, how
Speaker 2: about Jared Goff. He's fourth on the list. Marvin See,
Speaker 2: it took my guests go c J. Stroud he is
Speaker 2: seventh on the list.
Speaker 4: Okay, seventh is that's good?
Speaker 2: Todd Baker Mayfield he is fifth, Hall Tua Noah Dak
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Dak Prescott second. I said second on the list, Yes,
Speaker 2: second best odds, Matthew Stafford and then it's Mahomes Golf Baker,
Speaker 2: Rock Party, Josh Allen, c J. Stroud and Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: Who's going to lead the NFL in rushing arns? Marvin Yes?
Speaker 2: Whose second?
Speaker 8: Todd, I'm gonna go with the new Adam sand Lastar,
Speaker 8: Dereck Henry.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 2: Who's third? Best odds to lead the NFL in rushing?
Speaker 2: Paul Jonathan Taylor fourth seton Jamira Gibbs.
Speaker 3: No, he's sixth.
Speaker 2: B Jon Robinson then Jonathan Taylor, CMC odds to lead
Speaker 2: the NFL in sacks according to DraftKings. Paul Miles Garrett second, Marvin.
Speaker 6: T. J.
Speaker 3: Watt fourth, Todd.
Speaker 8: With a big chip on his shoulder, Micah Parson's.
Speaker 3: Third seton Nikolai Bosa.
Speaker 6: He is fifth.
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson name is that actually, Nikola, Yeah, Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 6: Let me see how.
Speaker 2: About and how about an over underpassing touchdowns Aaron Rodgers Paul.
Speaker 6: Twenty four and a half, Todd.
Speaker 3: Twenty and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 9: Twenty two and a half.
Speaker 4: Bloop bloop bloop.
Speaker 2: Let me see, well that brings us to the Offensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. It's according to Draftkicks, Paul, you're
Speaker 2: gonna lead us off.
Speaker 5: They usually give MVP to a quarterback and a running
Speaker 5: back or wide receiver with it. I'm going b Jon
Speaker 5: Robinson from my pack.
Speaker 6: That's pack.
Speaker 3: It's my pick.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's your pick, Todd, who's your pick for Offensive
Speaker 2: Player of the year.
Speaker 8: They finished strong last year and they've got something to prove.
Speaker 8: Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: We'll light it out Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4: Okay, Seaton, Am I not allowed to say Bjeon Rockins.
Speaker 4: You can say Bee that's my pick as well, Thank you?
Speaker 3: All right? This is his breakout year, Marvin.
Speaker 9: I think this guy goes off with the rookie quarterback,
Speaker 9: Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. I'm gonna give you the odds. According to DraftKings,
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley is tops. Jamar Chases second, Jamiir Gibbs third,
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry fourth, Bijon is fifth, Justin Jefferson is sixth,
Speaker 2: Pouka seventh, CMC after him, I'm taking Christian McCaffrey to
Speaker 2: be your offensive.
Speaker 3: Player the Year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of a surprise there, but maybe
Speaker 2: you were sleeping on the forty nine ers. That's the
Speaker 2: oh POI, the Offensive Player of the Year.
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Speaker 3: The crown is yours.
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room, best and worst of the weekend, Todd,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you best and.
Speaker 8: Worst best of the weekend. I agree with Andrew and
Speaker 8: Washington earlier. Coming up two and ten season Florida State
Speaker 8: snapping Alabama streak of twenty three straight wins and season
Speaker 8: openers stormed the fielding up to win to Tallahassee. Tammy
Speaker 8: Castellanos ran for seventy eight yards in the touchdown and
Speaker 8: through four hundred and fifty two yards thirty one seventeen Seminoles.
Speaker 3: Worst of the weekend Army.
Speaker 8: We haven't talked about Army getting stunned at West Point Saturday,
Speaker 8: losing thirty twenty seven in double overtime to the Texans
Speaker 8: of Charleton States.
Speaker 3: The Charleton State Texans beat Army Seaton.
Speaker 4: Best of the weekend was being out in Columbus for
Speaker 4: the game this weekend. What an atmosphere that was incredible.
Speaker 4: My first time ever at an Ohio State game. Certainly
Speaker 4: the tailgate. My worst of the weekend. I hit a
Speaker 4: rare quadruple. I'm calling it. Both of my flights on
Speaker 4: the way out were delayed. Both of my flights home
Speaker 4: were delayed. I don't know that I've ever had back
Speaker 4: to back to back to back delayed flights.
Speaker 3: But we made it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we made it. We went four from four. We
Speaker 4: went fourth for four.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Marvin. Best and worst of the week.
Speaker 9: Best of the weekend, Justice Haynes from Michigan sixteen carries,
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty nine yards, three TVs and their
Speaker 9: big win over rival New Mexico. Worst of the weekend
Speaker 9: My Heisman picked Jeremiah Love only ten carries for thirty
Speaker 9: three yards of running back out of Notre Dame no
Speaker 9: good against the Hurricanes.
Speaker 5: Paul A couple best ESPN send off of Lee Corso,
Speaker 5: well done Miami Notre Dame playing again.
Speaker 6: I don't care who wins.
Speaker 5: I just love the fact that two heavyweights with a
Speaker 5: lot of history play. And then my other best from
Speaker 5: the US Military Academy Larry Pickett junior and his father.
Speaker 5: There was a car broken down and it was in
Speaker 5: a wreck, and it was on fire, and they pulled
Speaker 5: over and pulled the guy out of the car. So
Speaker 5: Larry Pickett Junior of Army Football.
Speaker 2: Well check in with North Carolina football coming up. More
Speaker 2: of your phone calls as well on this Tuesday Best
Speaker 2: and Worst of the weekend with Fret Saint Satan, Marv Paula,
Speaker 2: Yours truly update the poll results got a new one
Speaker 2: for the final hour of the program.
Speaker 3: We're back after this