1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hi there, 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. My name is Chris Polette. I'm 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: an editor How Stuff Works. Sitting next to me, as usual, 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Hey, folks, and today we 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: were going to tinker around with some some ideas. Yes, 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: basically the tools we use to get our jobs done here, right, 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: and so we're talking about things that make our lives 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: a little easier when we're trying to research, right, publish articles, 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: even research things for the podcast, Um and uh, I 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: just thought maybe it'd be interesting for you guys to 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: hear kind of a collection of the stuff that that 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: we rely on on a regular basis. That's true. Now 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: we should probably start with, um, the easy stuff. Okay, sure, 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Microsoft Office, Yes, we use Microsoft Office extensively, so Word 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: and Excel in particular, not so much with the power 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: point power Point yeah, not really a power point company, Yeah, 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: but word we we I type up all my articles 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: and Word and I send them over to the Pallette 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: who then eviscerates them and makes them better. And Excel. 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: We used to track things like our our article assignments 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: and things like that. If our meta information is put 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: into an Excel spreadsheet which is converted into common to 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: limited file, which sounds it's just as exciting as it sounds. People. Um. 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: And then that's the funny thing about this. You know, 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: you don't really think about office as being that big 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: a deal, but you know it's taken a lot of 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: refinement over the years. And yeah, you know, I'm I'm 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: a Mac person generally, I was an Immiga person before that, 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: so I kind of I kind of came weight to 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: the Windows thing. I didn't even start using Windows until 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: pretty much skipped over three, which I'm told I didn't 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: really miss much. Well, yeah, I reluctantly started with Windows three. 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: So I actually came from a perfect background. So Correl, 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, that was my that was my background. So 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: when I switched over to word, I was it was 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: kicking and screaming. But these days, you know, I've actually 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: gotten very much used to the way word works, and 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty much impossible to find any place other 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: than I think a few legal firms still used word perfect, 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: but it's still very popular and legal, and but I 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: like Office. For the next part, I tried open Office, 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: which is an alternative from Sun. It's free, um open 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: source stuff, and it's got the entire suite of tools, 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: including some of the ones that Microsoft charges extra for. 47 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Very nice, but you know, sort of lower key if 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: you will. They don't have a lot of the bells 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: and whistles. Um. Same thing with like Google Docs. I've 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: used Google Docs once or twice for some some small projects. 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: But um, you know, for a way to really uh, 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: to be to be really integrated in the office, you 53 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: pretty much have to work work with a Microsoft Office 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: and of course Outlook as well. Yeah, that's very important 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: tool for us for coordinating our meetings and calendars and 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: things of that nature. Moving away from that basic sweet 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: what browser do you use or browsers most often anyway? Um? 58 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan likes to pick on me because I champion some 59 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: browsers he doesn't particularly like. By and large, I use 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Firefox um are content management system. Uh sort of has 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: a problem with Firefox three, So I'm basically using Firefox too. 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: But if you really want to know all this stuff, 63 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I use UM, believe it or not. I do use 64 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: Google Chrome on occasion, but I like to try different 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: stuff because not only do I like to talk about it, 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: but I also kind of I'm I'm a sort of 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: a beta junkie. Yeah. So I've got a copy of 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Opera on my my computer. I've also got Safari for Windows. Um, 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: I have Chrome on there somewhere. I even have Flock, 70 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: which is another offshoot of my the Mozilla suite of software. 71 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: I do have a question for you. Do you have 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Safari on there on purpose? No, I actually do. I 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: like so far. I was just wondering if you didn't 74 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: accidentally install it when you were updating iTunes or something, 75 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: even though there's a giant security hole in it. Yes, 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: I do have a copy of Safari on there, and 77 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: I think it's sort of It's sort of weird because 78 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: I think all of these different browsers have stuff that 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: nobody else has. Yeah, there's their little bits and pieces. 80 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, they're plug ins buying larger Y use Firefox 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: and Firefox three is really speedy. There's no giant memory 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: league like there is in two. But um, you know, 83 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: I do like to play around with the other ones 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: just to see what they're like. Opera is a really 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: nifty browser I think has been overlooked for the longest time. Unfortunately, 86 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: UM and it uh, you know, it's just sort of 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: gone by the wayside. And we also use Internet Explorer 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: on occasion we don't want to know and there are 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: times when I've found the Internet Explorer is is the 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: the best browser to ow to a certain web page, 91 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: and occasionally we do use that. I rely on Firefox 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: for most of my work. I love Chrome, but I 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: use Firefox because, like you said, the plug ins are 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: very useful, and we can talk a little bit about 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: some of the plug ins we use, uh for work. 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: But then Chrome just doesn't have that functionality yet, and 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: I stress yet when it does have it. But by Firefox. 98 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: Now I'm kidding. I really enjoy Firefox as well, but 99 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: I always have both open. I mean, there's no time 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna come by my desk and not see that. 101 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm always gonna have a Chrome window 102 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: open and a Firefox window open with multiple tabs in each. 103 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: And um, so let's talk about some of the plug 104 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: ins for Firefox that help us. UM. I use. There's 105 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: most of the ones I use. Collett's the one who 106 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: introduced me to them, but Pillette, being the beta junkie 107 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: he is, tends to adopt, use it, abandon and move on. 108 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: May I tend to find one and I'm I'm sticking 109 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: with this one because it does exactly what I needed 110 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: to do. So, for instance, I use a Zotero, which 111 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: is one that you recommended to me, like very much. 112 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: It's a it's a sort of a bookmarking indexing kind 113 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: of plug in where you can, um, you can bookmark 114 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: a site and it even includes site information when you 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: when you bookmarket so it tells you when you access 116 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: the site, which is important citation information exactly, yes, website 117 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: c I t e. Thank you. I appreciate the clarification. 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: U hit me, Yeah, affair. But now the it is 119 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: very useful because, as as uh one of the writers here, 120 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: one of the things I have to do when I'm 121 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: citing a source is I have to say when I 122 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: looked at that source. Because being the Internet, things don't 123 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: stay the same all the time. People can go back 124 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: and change stuff. It's not like a book. When a 125 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: book comes out, you know you have to wait till 126 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: a new edition of that book comes out before you 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: see any changes. But on a website. You could theoretically 128 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: cite something and then the next day the author says, 129 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: oh crap, I didn't mean to do that, and go 130 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: back and change it, and then it doesn't say what 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: it said when you read it. So that never happens 132 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: with us. No, of course not. So what we do 133 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: is we we list when we've looked at a site, 134 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: so that way you can say, well, it didn't say this. Well, 135 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, if you go into a say like the 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Internet archive, you can tell that it did say that 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: once upon a time. So that's one of the ones 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: I use. Do you have any plug ins that you 139 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about, I'm just gonna add to that. Okay, 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: sure that you may say, well, you know, when I 141 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: was a student, I used end note. What's the big 142 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: deal about staro? Well, unlike EndNote? So taro is free. 143 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: It is completely free and it's beautiful. You can save 144 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: entire copies of a web page or you can just 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: save a link. You can make folders, you can tag things. Um. 146 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: It's very very useful if you're trying to say, you know, 147 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: you can put stuff in a out your podcast and 148 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: say okay wait podcast um, and then it'll bring up 149 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: all the different citations you use for that. So it's 150 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty nifty in that regard. Um, let's see plug ins, 151 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: plug ins, plug ins. How about DGO, d I, I 152 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: g OE, yep, yep. It's um, it's pretty nifty. It's 153 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: got a toolbar and it's very like delicious in some ways. 154 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: You can save copies of links, you know, a giant 155 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: list of bookmarks. It's a social bookmarking tool. Um. But 156 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: the toolbar the reason I use I use both of them. 157 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: The reason I use dgo UM actually for an earlier 158 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: podcast we recorded a few minutes ago. It's got a 159 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: highlighter tool so you can highlight stuff and actually, if 160 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: you make it public, other people can go on the 161 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: web page and see. As long as you have the 162 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: dgo plug in installed, you can actually see the stuff 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: that other people have highlighted are marked up um, which 164 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: can or may not be useful depending on what it 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: is they've marked up in why um, But yeah, I 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: mean you've got you've got that of available to you, 167 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: and you can go back and look at your notes 168 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: and say, oh I bookmark this then, and hey, look 169 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: I know highlighted this and made some notes on it. 170 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: So you can have annotations on a web page, which 171 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: is very very useful. Um. I also use ever note. 172 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah that's one of the ones that you you embraced 173 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: and then abandoned. Correct. Yeah, except I'm actually looking at 174 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: my notes now on every note came back to the fold. Yeah, 175 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: I had a problem in which some of my notes 176 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: were deleted. I did a fresh install before I did this, 177 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: so i'm and and everything's there, so so hopefully it'll 178 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: stay up. Yeah. I haven't had a problem with it yet. 179 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, some people did have problems with it, and 180 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: I think you even heard back from someone using another tool. 181 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Will get to in a minute, but um, yeah, every 182 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: note allows you to to to either bookmark an entire 183 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: page and inside another inside every note, which you can 184 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: access offline. You don't have to be online to access 185 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: every note. Um. Or you can highlight a section of 186 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: a web page, can just save that, so if there's 187 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: a particular paragraph you want to to refer to later, 188 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: you can do that. It's also it's very useful when 189 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: you're doing stuff like um the podcast preparation, really because 190 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: you can you can highlight sections of text and say, 191 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: all right, well, this is something that you want to 192 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: talk about this, but you don't want to have the 193 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: whole website up when you're when you're going through the podcast, 194 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: because it's too hard to find the information you're looking for. 195 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: You can also make notes, you can highlight, you can 196 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: change text size. UM you can. It's also really really 197 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: useful for screenshots. I found um and because if you 198 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: do a screenshot while every note is open, you can 199 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: you can uh dictate the parameters of your screenshot so 200 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to use it doesn't take a shot 201 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: of the entire screen. You can you get the little 202 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: borders that you can um size appropriately and take a 203 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: shot of just the part of the screen you want, 204 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: which saves time later on when you're editing photos. That's ah, 205 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: that's very useful for uh. Firefox that use a plug 206 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: in called screen Grab, same sort of thing, does the 207 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: same thing. It's you know, within the web window. Um. Yeah. 208 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: So and then one other Firefox plug in, I can 209 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: talk about fox Marks, which is the synchronized bookmarks application 210 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: where if you're if you're you we're using multiple machines, 211 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: you know that it's difficult if you know, like you 212 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: might bookmark something on one machine and then you're on 213 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: another machine and you realize that it's you don't have 214 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: the bookmark on that one, it's on your other computer. 215 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: That can you get really frustrating. So fox Marks is 216 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: a way where you create a little, you know, kind 217 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: of a bookmark account and you can synchronize bookmarks across 218 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: multiple machines and access them from wherever you happen to 219 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: be at the time. You know, you can also do 220 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: that with Google Browser Sync. Yes, and Opera also offers 221 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: a feature like that too. I was just talking about 222 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: the Firefox plug in. I'm the one who has all 223 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: the anti very various anti such and such biases like 224 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: anti mac bias and all that, right that doesn't actually exist. UM, 225 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about a few of the other tools I'm not. 226 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: Do you have any other Firefox ones you wanted to 227 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: talk about? No, I do have a web tool, so 228 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: if we want to go to web, let's UM. I 229 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: have something installed on my web host that I use. UM, 230 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: and I'd be willing to bet the very few of 231 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: our listeners have ever heard of it. It's called Tasks 232 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: junior UM. It's made by a company called crowd Favorite 233 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: used to be King designed. Alex King came out with 234 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: this a long time ago, and there's a pro version, 235 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: uh paid version, and then this version, which is very 236 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: very downscaled. It doesn't have the same feature set um. 237 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: But what it is is tasks. Okay, so it's a 238 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: it's a to do list, which is pretty simple, except 239 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: the reason I like this particular program over things like 240 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: remember the Milk, um, which is also pretty cool, um 241 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: or to do dot um dot com. Think I have 242 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: to go look um now that I've said that. So anyway, 243 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: the thing that makes Tasks Junior better than something like 244 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: Remember the Milk, which is also pretty cool, is that 245 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: Tasks Junior allows you to install subtasks. So, for example, 246 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm editing one of Jonathan's articles and I have to 247 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: send it to a co editor, and I have to 248 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: write metaphor it, and I have to upload images for it. 249 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: I can put the giant title in there. I could say, 250 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: you know how the Amazon kindle works, and I could say, okay, 251 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: make sure you edit the article, make sure you give 252 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: it to the co editor, make sure you put it 253 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: in the dropbox for someone else for the for the 254 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: publisher to pick up and publish. And I can check 255 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: off those individual tasks under the heading of the main task. UM. 256 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: So that's an especially useful thing because stuff like Outlook 257 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: that's got the it's got a tasks list, but you 258 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: don't have the ability to do subtasks, so they're all individually, 259 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, loose in there. UM which is UH, which 260 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: is okay, and I'm pretty sure of the crowd. Favorite 261 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: actually offers a hosting service where you can sign up 262 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: to do that. But if you get tasks junior um, 263 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: which is essentially donation where you have to install it 264 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: on your own server, and it's it's fairly easy to do, 265 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: but it's really nifty stuff. UM. I use a couple 266 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: of web based UH applications occasionally. UM. There was a 267 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: time where I had a little bit of I was 268 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: going through a transition on computers UM and UH because 269 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: yours kept dying. I wasn't going to go into that. Yeah. Yeah, 270 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm the tech guy who kills laptops, so I'm on 271 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: my fourth one here and UH. But one of the 272 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: issues is that when I get a new laptop, I 273 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily have all the software on it that I 274 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: would need to do my job. And because most of 275 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: our software we're working on licenses, it would mean that 276 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: we have to get a new license for that machine 277 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: so that we could run it legally. Right, one of 278 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: those being Photoshop when we that's one of the big 279 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: programs we used to edit art here and um or 280 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: at least one of the ones. I use Photoshop Elements, 281 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: really Photoshop Elements, Yeah, I should be should be specific, 282 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: but um, when I didn't have Photoshop Elements, I at 283 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: least still had access to Photoshop Express, which is a 284 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: web based photo editing software. Um, and it's really limited. Yeah, 285 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: you can't do nearly as much on Photoshop Express as 286 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: you could with Elements or some other uh computer desktop 287 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: based uh photo editing software. But I could do enough 288 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: where I could at least make it less of a 289 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: task for Polette to to to edit and upload to 290 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the articles. UM. Fortunately, I know have Photoshop Elements on 291 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: this computer, so I don't have to worry about anymore. 292 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: But that was that was definitely useful. Yep. Um see, 293 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other desktopy software. Well, I 294 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: use uh, we can talk about maybe the I am 295 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: software we use because I I use Digsby. I know 296 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: you don't you don't you Digsby do you? Oh? Here's 297 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: another situation in which I have run through a gamut 298 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm a trillion fan. Yeah. UM. I used 299 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: digsby for a while. It is a free and open 300 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: source UH chat client. It offers a lot of functions 301 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: that others don't like Google Talk and Facebook Chat and 302 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: my Space chat as well as it can you can 303 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: link it so that you can check your You can 304 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: keep a running tab on on your email accounts so Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, mail, 305 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: um it. You can see what the you know when 306 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: new messages come in. You can actually see the indications 307 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: for that without having to go to those websites. You 308 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: can even delete messages from your desktop without going to 309 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: those websites. That's also very handy and UH. For a 310 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: while I used Pigeon p I d G I n UM, which, 311 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: as many of you know, I'm sure is UH. A 312 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Pigeon is a sort of a mishmash of two language 313 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: is together to form a third. Well. This is an 314 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: open source I AM Multi i AM protocol client UM, 315 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: sort of like a d M for the Mac. Pigeon 316 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: is is available for a Lennox and Windows and it's UH. 317 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: It's got a lot of the same capabilities, although it's 318 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: really I am based. It's really not a male thing. 319 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm a bobber. Well. The other thing about Digsby that 320 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: the other useful thing for me is that it allows 321 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: me to check my Twitter accounts. Yes, and Twitter is 322 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: another one of those tools that we use quite a bit, 323 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: and it's uh. I use it to follow a lot 324 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: of other tech journalists so I can keep up with 325 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: tech news as it's being broken. Um and occasionally I 326 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: send out a little Twitter messages as well, so you 327 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: can always track me down on Twitter and find out, 328 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm complaining about someone making popcorn in 329 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: the office, because those are the kind of really important 330 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: messages I tend to send out. Yeah yeah, For a while, 331 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: I was signing up for a lot of those, um yeah, 332 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: but every seems like every single day would send me 333 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: another email saying hey, look at this, and I'm like, 334 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: what are you doing to me? I'm I already belonged 335 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: to like fifty social networks. I can't I can't join anymore. 336 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well then you got um Twitter and you 337 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: have ji q or hi q. I've never heard anywhere 338 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: announced that clerk pounds quippy cork identica. I belong to 339 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: so many of these, and they're basically, um, yeah you 340 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: said the right one, okay. Um, so yeah, there are 341 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: pounds plexo. Yeah yeah, I was gonna say, did you 342 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: see a pounds? Um? There are tons and tons of these, 343 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: And there are services like ping dot fm that allow 344 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: you to broadcast one tweet to all these different services 345 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: every time, or you know, you can blog to other 346 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: services like Blogger and Tumbler and WordPress all the time. 347 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't use I don't use most of those in 348 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: my day to day work. No Twitter, but I used 349 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: I have used Ping to write to post to those 350 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: different things. Um. And and friend feed, which is sort 351 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: of a reverse of those, where you know, you can 352 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: have all those post to your friend feed and then 353 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: people can comment to that, which is kind of cool. Um. 354 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: And those are tools we used to network with other 355 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: tech people or you know, people who have interesting contents content. Um. Yeah, Readers. 356 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: I've used Google Reader. I also used NewsGator. I actually 357 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: meant people who read our website. That's also cool. Yeah, 358 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: I use Google Reader as well. UM. Now I meant 359 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: that we could use those two to readers people. Let's 360 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: move on to readers, because I use Google Reader as well. 361 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: As actually gonna mention I Google. I occasionally use that 362 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: to check a billion RSS feeds at one time. Um, 363 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: that's very useful. Whenever we want to see what's hot 364 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: in tech or what's the latest news, you can you 365 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: can check many for RSS feeds all at the same time. 366 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: And uh and yeah, it's very handy. Yeah. I like 367 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: a NewsGator because it uh, you know a lot of 368 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: people have a remembrance of when they weren't all that 369 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: uh friendly, they had some issues with um, but now 370 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: they're now they're totally above board. Now they offer RSS stuff. UM, 371 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, you can go online or you can They 372 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: actually bought two different clients. The one for Windows is 373 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: called feed Demon, it was very very popular client, and 374 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: the one for Mac is net Newswire, which was a 375 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: very very very popular client among Mac users. Um. And 376 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: one of the cool things about NewsGator is that if 377 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: you use one of those desktop clients, you can set 378 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: it to sync with the web or you know, so 379 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: you can read I can catch up with tech news 380 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: at home, and it knows which articles I've read, so 381 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: I won't go back and go oh man, I have 382 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: to go through all these again. I've already looked at these. Well, 383 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, that's one of the advantages is to using 384 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: the at instead. And one of the other things I 385 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about was job which is inbox spelled backwards. 386 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: It's for for uh Microsoft Outlook. Yeah. I had this briefly, 387 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: but I was having some issues. It was causing my 388 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: outlook to crash and it was probably because it was 389 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: interfering with some other program that I also happened to 390 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: have on my computer. It's not I don't mean to 391 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: say that jobny itself was defective. I think it was 392 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: just not playing well with so many of the other 393 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: plugins that I already have. Well, each of us has 394 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: a cocktail of software. It's different from everyone else, and 395 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: sometimes it gets a little poisonous. That's the problem. But 396 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: what it does is it's really neat. It indexes your email. 397 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: It can tell you who's the most popular person, tells 398 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: you when you're most likely to get a response based 399 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: on the analysis of that email. You can look up 400 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: a word and it won't pull it up. You can 401 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: look for different attachments and will help you find them 402 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: five hours now. Expect a response from Strickland in five hours. Um, well, 403 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: I have only one other one left, Google Desktop. I 404 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: have Google Desktop on. It helps me search my computer 405 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: for files if I've somehow managed to misplace them, which 406 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: has happened on occasion, sometimes too great personal distress, but 407 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: it also is very useful again in Outlook, UM I 408 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: can search. I can use Google Desktop to search my 409 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: my Outlook for specific keywords or phrases, which comes very handy, like, 410 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: for instance, I'm planning a trip to the Consumer Electronic 411 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: Showcase later on actually at the beginning of next year, 412 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: and this way I can quickly search through all the 413 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: emails from ce S for something specific, Like I was saying, 414 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: there was that one from Pioneer, and I can search 415 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: Pioneer ce S and it'll pull it up really quickly, 416 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: So that's very handy in my case. That was my 417 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: last one. All right, Well, my last one is UH 418 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: as a tool called dropbox, and this is a plug 419 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: in you can install for Mac or Windows. And this 420 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: is another one of those home and work things. That's 421 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: pretty neat because UH unlike services like box dot net, 422 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: which I like very much, they offer. Both of these 423 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: services offer free hosting for your junk UM you know, 424 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: sound files or pictures or documents. UM and it's great 425 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: because it's online and in the cloud, and you can 426 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, store stuff there. Well, you know that's that's cool. 427 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: And you know, if you upgrade, you can start storing 428 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: giant stuff. You can even collaborate with other people. But 429 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: what makes drop box different is that this plug in 430 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: on your computer actually makes a folder pop up on 431 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: your desktop or in your documents folder. So not only 432 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: do you can you store stuff there, but you can 433 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: actually drag and drop. Um. And so now I can 434 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: save documents. I don't like hauling my laptop everywhere I go, 435 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: so if I have something I just want to take 436 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: a look at, I can put it in my drop box, 437 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: go look at it at home, and then you know, 438 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: save any changes I make there. And it's you know, 439 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: drag and drop or save and Microsoft are directly to 440 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: the dropbox rather than having to save it and then 441 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: upload it through the web interface. Um. But on the 442 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: other hand, and box dot Net offers a uh an 443 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: iPhone app which is pretty cool too. You can actually 444 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: access stuff there. And Live Mesh is something from Microsoft 445 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: that I'm starting to play with. Athough there's no Mac 446 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: client yet, it does offer you the opportunity to two 447 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: save stuff in a similar way where you've got the 448 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: plug in and it's integrated with your desktop. So that's 449 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: a lot of tools. You know, I thought, you know, 450 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: when we first talked about this, we were both like, 451 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have enough to talk about it. Yeah, 452 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: we had way more than we thought. And then there's 453 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, pen and paper what anyway you lost me? Yeah? 454 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: I know. It's that stone age technology. And we have 455 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: articles on many, many, many of these tools that we've 456 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: talked about, such as how Twitter works, we have HOLP, 457 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: Firefox works. You can find all of those right now 458 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com and we'll talk to 459 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: you again. Really sick for more on this and thousands 460 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: of other topics. Visit how stuff works dot com. Let 461 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: us know what you think. Send an email to podcast 462 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com. Brought to you by 463 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. It's ready, are you