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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. Welcome to Move the Sticks DJ here

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Speaker 2: and the Draft is right around the corner. We are

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Speaker 2: less than a week away from the first round kicking off,

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Speaker 2: and today's episode is a little bit of a tradition

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Speaker 2: here on Move the Sticks. It's just going to be

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Speaker 2: my conference call. Every year we do this before the Combine,

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Speaker 2: we do it before the Draft, and it's a way

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Speaker 2: for me to kind of answer a bunch of questions

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Speaker 2: from media all over the country and in some cases

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Speaker 2: outside the country as it pertains to what we expect

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Speaker 2: to happen on Draft night. So it's a good way

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Speaker 2: to touch on a lot of different topics. We've trimmed

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Speaker 2: it down a little bit. These calls can get a

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Speaker 2: But for today's episode, it's just going to be my

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Speaker 2: conference call as it relates to the upcoming NFL Draft,

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Speaker 2: And a reminder that you know, after this episode is over,

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Speaker 2: be on the lookout lots more Move the Sticks content

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Speaker 2: is going to be coming your way. Bucky's going to

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Speaker 2: be doing a tremendous job next week, I'll be joining

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Speaker 2: him for a little bit of that and he'll take

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Speaker 2: over the rings as well. So, without any further ado,

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Speaker 2: here's the conference call ahead of the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: Our first question comes from Mark Potish.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Dj, thanks again for doing this. Before the Bears

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Speaker 4: traded the number one pick. You were a proponent of

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Speaker 4: the deal they eventually made. I think, going down to

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Speaker 4: plus weeks that have ensued as this quarterback classes shake

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Speaker 4: it out, is that pick any more valuable today? In

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Speaker 4: other words, with Ryan Pols any better off waiting? What's

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Speaker 4: your analysis of the timing of it now?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you never know how that's going to shake

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Speaker 2: out once Arby does all their homework and gets to

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Speaker 2: the finish line. On the quarterback evaluations, I would say

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Speaker 2: that it feels like in the teams I've talked to,

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Speaker 2: end up getting a pretty good price. But even that

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Speaker 2: being said, with the hall they got, when you include

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Speaker 2: the player that they got and DJ Moore, I don't

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Speaker 2: know that they would be able to do better. So

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Speaker 2: I think that was smart on his part, he got

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Speaker 2: a deal he liked, he was comfortable with it, and

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Speaker 2: he wasn't going to wait to see if there was

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Speaker 2: anything better out there and maybe miss out on that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: So I thought it was smart to go to nine.

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Speaker 2: It made the most sense. I love the return they got.

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Speaker 2: And the crazy thing about it is, I think as

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Speaker 2: we're a week out, I think never would have thought

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Speaker 2: this when they made that trade. But they might be

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Speaker 2: sitting there with more quarterbacks still on the board when

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Speaker 2: they pick at nine, and might be faced, you know,

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Speaker 2: with another opportunity to continue to add you know, more picks.

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Speaker 2: So I really, I really thought that was the smart

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Speaker 5: Great Thanks j yep.

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jonathan Alexander.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for doing this in DJA. I was curious your

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Speaker 7: Were to pass on a quarterback at the number two draft,

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Speaker 7: I mean with the number two pick and take say

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Speaker 7: Will Anderson, do you think that'd be a mistake and

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Speaker 7: do you think there's still be opportunities to get you know,

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Speaker 7: quality quarterback. Of course they have that twelve pig, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Will Anderson is my second player and

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young is my first player. So you know, we

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Speaker 2: assume that Bryce Young goes number one, may be taking

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Speaker 2: best player available. So from that standpoint, I couldn't argue.

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Speaker 2: I would just say that there has to be a

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Speaker 2: You know, they've got a you know, they've got an

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Speaker 2: maybe that's what they have in mind. I just have

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Speaker 2: that's why I'd be I would be shocked if they

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Speaker 2: of answers your question. I love Will Anderson as a player,

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Speaker 2: but there's no guarantees you're going to be picking up

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Speaker 2: I really like CJ. Stroudy my seventh overall player, and

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Speaker 2: take CJ. Stroud. I think he's better than anybody you

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Speaker 2: There are absolutely no guarantees you're going to get one

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Speaker 7: See the strout has seemed to have fallen out of

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Speaker 2: who's to say that that doesn't mean that they trade

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Speaker 2: You know that, you know, somebody comes up to three

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that it's this narrative that he's

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Speaker 2: Stroud inside that one building in Houston that's that's basically

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Speaker 2: I think what everybody's getting.

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Speaker 8: As you mentioned earlier, you didn't have a great feel

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Speaker 8: it does kind of feel like CJ and Bryce or

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Speaker 8: the conversation at one Why would you choose one over

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, we get hung up

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Speaker 2: on this. They all have a type, and this is

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Speaker 2: a similar guy, He's not had a smaller quarterback. And

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Speaker 2: my pushback to that was number one, I don't know

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Speaker 2: Bryce Youngs don't come around very often where you get

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Speaker 2: somebody that's you know, it doesn't fit all specs, but

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Speaker 2: it's supremely talented. And to me, I just thought he's

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Speaker 2: All that stuff is off the charts. And if it

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Speaker 2: they would read almost identical. So I think he's that

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Speaker 2: a talent. He just you're going to take the risk

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Speaker 2: with him, you know what the body type, it is,

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Speaker 2: what it is, you're gonna you know, it's not ideal,

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from the Orlando Ledbetter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for doing this, Daniel Hey.

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Speaker 9: The last two times the Falcons, that was the twenty

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Speaker 9: seventh time they've been in the top ten.

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Speaker 2: Last two times they went with offensive that's a lot.

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Speaker 9: That's a lot going back to Bruce Pickens and Audrey Bruce.

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Speaker 10: And all that.

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Speaker 9: But uh, last two times win with offensive weapons. Is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty wide open for him when

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Speaker 2: you look at the direction they could go. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just look at him on the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: fact they brought in Kalais Campbell. I like the freck

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Speaker 2: they just brought in Bud Dupree. They've added some good

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Speaker 2: pieces there, but you know, Kalais Campbell is not gonna

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Speaker 2: some talented guys to throw in that mix. On that

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Speaker 2: you're getting a little bit older there. So I like

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Speaker 2: the idea of adding some some juice up front. And

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Speaker 2: I know there's a you know, I think there's two

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Speaker 2: need to just get younger, get get more athletic, get

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Speaker 2: improve on some of these got awful numbers against the

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Speaker 2: pass and on third down. Thank you.

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Speaker 11: Thanks DJ for doing this. Questions about the Cardinals and

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Speaker 11: all the trade down possibilities that that might be presented.

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Speaker 11: You know, we don't know what Houston is going to

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Speaker 11: do obviously, do you do you have a feeling that

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Speaker 11: this is definitely a trade down situation for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 11: be it four, you know, six, seven, ninety eleven, that

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Speaker 2: I would think it's a no brainer that they want

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Speaker 2: not there's the market for it. So I think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's got to be a two way street.

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Speaker 2: I think they would love to get out. I don't

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Speaker 2: right now. I think it makes a lot of sense

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Speaker 2: for them to try and get as many assets as possible.

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Speaker 2: This year and next year, just to accumulate as many

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Speaker 2: whether or not there's a market. And I would say

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Speaker 2: the Bears. If they have an opportunity to move back,

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Speaker 2: don't get hung up on you know, I can only

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Speaker 2: go back, you know, one spot or two spots or

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Speaker 2: three spots. I don't want to be out of range

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Speaker 2: of a particular player. You are a lot more than

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Speaker 2: a particular player away from being a good team. So

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Speaker 2: get get back as far as you can, get as

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Speaker 2: much as you can. And again I would I would

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Speaker 2: be adding pieces in next year's draft as well as

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Speaker 2: this year's draft if you could. Thanks.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jim Wyatt.

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Speaker 2: Daniel, appreciate your time and listening to the Peter Schreger podcast.

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Speaker 2: You had the Titans go with Jackson Smith and Jig,

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Speaker 13: What would you think about that pick and what do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good to hear you, man. Look, I just look

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Speaker 2: So that's why, you know, I was kind of leaning

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Speaker 2: I think that's possible, So I wouldn't totally rule that

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Dan Wiedler.

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Speaker 14: Hey, DJ had a couple receivers in day two, maybe

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Speaker 2: First of all, you nailed the pronunciation there, so nicely

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Speaker 2: a little bit under five to nine. He's quicker than fast,

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Speaker 2: I think Josevis probably goes in that fourth round range.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got some size at six three, he's

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Speaker 2: probably in that fourth round range. Maybe he's surprised us

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Speaker 2: where he comes off the board. Great stuff, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Our next question comes from Chase Goodbread, Good to see you.

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Speaker 2: And Dja good to see you, buddy. Looks like a

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Speaker 2: beautiful day out there.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the weather's too good not to be outside. What

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Speaker 13: is the likelihood or unlikelihood that Bryce Young and Will

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Speaker 14: One?

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Speaker 12: Two?

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Speaker 13: It's only happened at the same school, has done that

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Speaker 13: time was two thousand, so obviously it would be pretty

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, before I answer that question,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you one real quick, Chase, how long

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Speaker 2: after that were to happen, before Alabama's football would would

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Speaker 2: tweet out the money that thought those players are going

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Speaker 3: Just tossed out there about half a second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I figured. I think it's a legit possibility.

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Speaker 2: More so, this week than last week. You know, the

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Speaker 2: it early on with them not taking him. I thought, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think Bryce will go one. I think

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Speaker 2: Stroud will end up going to It just makes you know,

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Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense. I think those were

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Speaker 2: the whispers started. You know, my buddy Lancer Line is

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Speaker 2: hold up, they might go defense here, they might not

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Speaker 2: And now I think that whispers kind of turned into

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Speaker 2: you know, Will Anderson versus Tyree Wilson being the choice.

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Speaker 2: I like Will Anderson over Tyree. I think that both

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Speaker 2: that's in that scenario. There you go, Alabama one and two.

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Speaker 2: Thanks DJ, yep.

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jury Epstein.

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Speaker 15: Thanks for doing this, DJ. Kind of a niche question

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Speaker 15: later around, but how much do you think that brock

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Speaker 15: Purdy has changed the perception of mister irrelevance? More broadly,

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Speaker 15: how would you describe the difference in teams draft strategy

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question. I think there's always been

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Speaker 2: to late round picks. There's there's Okay, we want guys

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Speaker 2: with you know, kind of established resumes who have been

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Speaker 2: you know, as they need to be. They don't fit

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Speaker 2: we feel like high floor, and maybe they've been devalued

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Speaker 2: saying I don't care what level they played at, I

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Speaker 2: don't care how how much playing time they got. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna just get try and get the biggest, fastest guys

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Speaker 2: So I think there's always been those two schools of thought.

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Speaker 2: In the seventh round with brock Perdy, I think it's

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Speaker 2: not only impacting what you know, what could happen late

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Speaker 2: this guy's played a lot of football, he's a good player.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's not the wow you know, the wow traits,

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Speaker 2: think it's going to impact, you know, where that that

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Speaker 2: into like the Jaron Halls and the Jake Hans, the

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Speaker 2: Tanner McKees, you know, the the dtrs from UCLA, that

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Speaker 2: the traits that made Purty a hit. I think teams

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Speaker 2: traits that he possessed in terms of you know, accuracy, intelligence,

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Speaker 2: you know, decision making, and more than anything else, I

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Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this let's talk Colts for a minute.

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Speaker 16: Knowing what you know about Chris Ballard and and this

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Speaker 2: At quarterback Levis or Richardson or is the C. J.

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Speaker 13: Stroud smoke real and and maybe they maybe they get

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Speaker 2: Well again, I guess we'll find out on Thursday night

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Speaker 2: But you know, there's a lot of people, uh in

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Speaker 2: gms and head coaches that just feel like Will Levis

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Speaker 2: the stuff that that Will Levis can do athletically is

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Speaker 2: marrying guys to what they've coached in the past. I

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Speaker 2: he's with him and Richardson if we just take those two.

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Speaker 2: I think Will Levis is further along in his journey,

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Speaker 2: So if I was going to give you my guess,

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Speaker 2: be my guest with the Colts. But as with all

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Ryan Dunleavy, Hey.

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Speaker 17: Daniel, thanks for doing this, no problem. I wanted to

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Speaker 17: ask if the Giants goal was to go receiver corner

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Speaker 2: Rounds, Well, it's I think that's a smart way to

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Speaker 2: And this might be the first time that I can

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver first, because I actually liked the group

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Speaker 2: of corners in the second round that you'd be staring

435
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Speaker 2: at more than I like the receivers you'd be staring

436
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Speaker 2: at you get in the second round at the corners.

437
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Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what happens with Emmanuel Forbes. I

438
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Speaker 2: think he's got a real shot to go in the

439
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Speaker 2: first round, even though he's you know, one hundred and

440
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Speaker 2: seventy pounds currently, but with him Ringos Intriguing from Georgia,

441
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Speaker 2: Tyreek Stevenson from Miami, Riley Moss I really like him.

442
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 2: A lot of teams like him from Iowa, Julius Brents,

443
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Speaker 2: Kansas State. You know, there's a long list. I mean,

444
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Speaker 2: there's some teams that are that are cam Smith teams.

445
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: Others aren't quite as high, but there is a there's

446
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 2: a lot of depth of this corner position, whereas the

447
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver position. I feel like it's that that kind

448
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: of clump up there at the top. There's a handful

449
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Speaker 2: of guys, and ideally, I think you'd want to leave

450
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Speaker 2: with one of those guys already in the fold.

451
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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Eric Branch.

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Speaker 18: I don't mean to suggest the nine Ers have you know,

453
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Speaker 18: figured out the draft in any way. They've certainly had

454
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Speaker 18: their share whiffs like any other team, but you know,

455
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Speaker 18: as you know, you know, after the second round during

456
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Speaker 18: the Lynch Shanahan era, they've had like Kittle, Warner, green Law,

457
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Speaker 18: Hung Dj Jones, Purty. I don't know, do you have

458
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Speaker 18: any thoughts of, you know, why have they been able

459
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Speaker 18: to hit on an inordinate amount of kind of elite

460
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Speaker 18: type players in later rounds. Is there something about what

461
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Speaker 18: you know about their strategy or approach that would at

462
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Speaker 18: least offer some some level of explanation.

463
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting when you when you list

464
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Speaker 2: all those names off in a row. To me, I

465
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Speaker 2: think there's some there's some continuity there with you're talking

466
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Speaker 2: about guys that are incredibly football smart. Uh, They're they're

467
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Speaker 2: incredibly passionate, they were leaders at the places that they played.

468
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Speaker 2: In other words, I'm getting to is I think they've

469
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Speaker 2: they've they've figured out the makeup part of this whole thing.

470
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Speaker 2: They they've they've found it. I mean, Hufanga, they raved

471
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Speaker 2: about him at USC. He walked into that program. He

472
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Speaker 2: was a leader, He was incredibly product if he just

473
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Speaker 2: didn't run fast. So they are able to see past

474
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Speaker 2: some of that stuff and see guys that are really

475
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Speaker 2: really smart, tough and instinctive football players and and plug

476
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Speaker 2: them in. Obviously you get some more athleticism with some

477
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Speaker 2: of the other guys you mentioned, but all those guys

478
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Speaker 2: off the field like work, ethic and tangibles like elite, elite,

479
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: elite elite. So I sometimes this thing is not just

480
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Speaker 2: evaluating these guys as players, it's evaluating them as people

481
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Speaker 2: and competitors and all that. And I got to believe

482
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Speaker 2: it helps having John there, you know, as somebody who's

483
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Speaker 2: kind of epitomizes what you'd want in a football player.

484
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Speaker 2: He knows what it looks like. So with him and

485
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Speaker 2: Adam Peters, who I think is as good as anybody

486
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Speaker 2: in the league at evaluating players, they've got a great

487
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Speaker 2: personnel department and Kyle has has a really good idea

488
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Speaker 2: of what he wants at every position. So when you

489
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Speaker 2: get a coaching staff that gives you a good menu

490
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Speaker 2: and you get guys that know how to go find it,

491
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Speaker 2: you get a lot of success.

492
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Speaker 18: Thanks very much.

493
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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Childs Walker.

494
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Speaker 2: Daniel, how you doing?

495
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Speaker 19: Just a question about the Ravens. Obviously they have the

496
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Speaker 19: uncertainty with Lamar. Do you think that could lead them

497
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Speaker 19: to make some sort of move for a quarterback in

498
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Speaker 19: this draft, Whether it would be a big splash for

499
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Speaker 19: a guy like Richardson or or you know, get a

500
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Speaker 19: guy further down that maybe turns into a developmental guy

501
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Speaker 19: for them.

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Speaker 2: I would say, to me, it looks more like it.

503
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Speaker 2: This is my opinion here, but to me, it looks

504
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Speaker 2: like more You get another receiver kind of you know,

505
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Speaker 2: on board without necessarily utilizing a lot of your resources

506
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Speaker 2: or you know, a first round pick or trading up

507
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Speaker 2: for a guy. It feels like, to me, just let's

508
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Speaker 2: put another guy in the room. We have time. You know,

509
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Speaker 2: at least we know we've got this next year. If

510
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Speaker 2: if you're going year by year with Lamar Jackson, he's

511
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Speaker 2: gonna be your guy. You know that going into this

512
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Speaker 2: next season. So if you're looking at somebody you can

513
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Speaker 2: bring into your room, and whether that you know is

514
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson we've talked about from UCLA, who can

515
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Speaker 2: run all the stuff that you currently run, very athletic,

516
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Speaker 2: strong arm. He's a little bit older, is twenty five

517
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 2: five year old, but that would be kind of an

518
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: intriguing mid round pick. Jaren Hall from BYU can do

519
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: a lot of those things, really athletic, can move around

520
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: Stetson Bennett as well. I mean to me, it feels

521
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Speaker 2: like maybe one of those three guys, And then you know,

522
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Speaker 2: you have a decision to make. If somehow, you know,

523
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Speaker 2: Richardson were to fall the way down into your lap,

524
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Speaker 2: then now we've got now we have a conversation to

525
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Speaker 2: make but I don't get the sense. I don't feel

526
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Speaker 2: like this is a big bold move for them to

527
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Speaker 2: go up and get one. Gotcha, Thanks yep.

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Joey Kaufman.

529
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Speaker 6: You know, just wondering about jack and Smith and Jigba.

530
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Speaker 6: At Ohio State, he was almost exclusively playing and lining

531
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Speaker 6: up in the slot. Really all of his snaps pretty

532
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Speaker 6: much came there. How does it affect the way he's

533
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Speaker 6: viewed at the NFL level? Does it help or hurt?

534
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Speaker 6: Does it help him that he should at Billy played

535
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Speaker 6: and slot or is it kind of like hurt him

536
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Speaker 6: as well that he was maybe haven't been able to

537
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Speaker 6: really evaluate him playing outside as much.

538
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I also want to mention it's totally

539
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Speaker 2: different than the Justin Jefferson thing. I know there was

540
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: some conversation when he was coming out that you know,

541
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Speaker 2: he's just you know, he's going to be a slot.

542
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Speaker 2: He was slot therey LSU. He had spent a lot

543
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Speaker 2: more time outside previously, so with Jefferson that I didn't

544
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Speaker 2: I personally didn't have any of those concerns. I think

545
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: with Jackson, I think he can play outside, but I

546
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: still think he's much better suited and situated to play

547
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Speaker 2: inside where you know, his kind of quicker than fast

548
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: play style works better in the slot. You know, I am,

549
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Speaker 2: you know his twenty one tape is excellent, But I

550
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Speaker 2: don't get totally on board with those you know saying, well,

551
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: if you look at his numbers, they were better than

552
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: the other two guys and Wilson and Olave, so that

553
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: therefore you know, he's a better player than those guys.

554
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: Those guys had a much more difficult assignment. Those guys

555
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: are on the outside. Those guys drew coverage. They they

556
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 2: jump off the screen with their explosiveness. Jackson is a

557
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: really good player. I think he's going to be a

558
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Speaker 2: high volume slot receiver. But there wasn't that time when

559
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Speaker 2: I was watching him where I kind of like almost

560
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Speaker 2: fell out of my chair like he did with those

561
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Speaker 2: other two guys with dynamic and how explosive and how

562
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: electric they are. So what I'm getting is, I think

563
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: those guys made his life a lot easier on the inside.

564
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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, he's a he's a he's a

565
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: wonderful slot receiver. I don't think you know, he gets

566
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: uh and don't think he gets totally dinged by team

567
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Speaker 2: saying he's an outside guy. You just draft him knowing

568
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: this is how we're going to use him, and uh,

569
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Speaker 2: and he's going to get a chance to catch close

570
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 2: to one hundred balls or you know, around there in

571
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Speaker 2: your offense. And there's nothing wrong with that. Thank you.

572
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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Daniel or WHUSI, Hey, DJ, appreciate.

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Speaker 20: You doing this. The Dolphins don't have around one pick

574
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Speaker 20: and they really don't have a lot of picks. It

575
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Speaker 20: up in just four but on day two at fifty

576
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Speaker 20: one and eighty four, can we find a difference maker,

577
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Speaker 20: maybe not a plug and starter, but somebody who can

578
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Speaker 20: contribute in year one as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: I think absolutely. I think if you just look at

580
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Speaker 2: the tight end position, I think you get a darn

581
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Speaker 2: good player. You know, so where they're picking h in

582
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Speaker 2: the second round, picking fifty one, I think you could

583
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Speaker 2: get a tight end and in some years might have

584
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Speaker 2: been first round pick. So, you know, Sam Laporter from Iowa,

585
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: I love. I think he's got a good chance of

586
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Speaker 2: being there. I think there's a very good chance that

587
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: the top, you know, the top guys are gone. Kincaide's gone,

588
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: Mayor's gone, you know, Darnell Washington is potentially there, but

589
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: I think he's more than likely gone even if Musgrave's

590
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: gone from Oregon State. If you're picking between Sam Laporta,

591
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: Tucker Kraft from South Dakota State, or Schoonmaker from Michigan,

592
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: I think all those guys are plugging play. I think

593
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: they're impactful right away. So I think absolutely they can

594
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: find somebody there that can come in and uh and

595
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: really help their ball club. So that would be the position.

596
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: If you're looking for immediate impact, that would be the

597
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: spot I'd be looking. Thank you.

598
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: Next question comes from James Boyd.

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Speaker 21: Hey, DJ, thanks again for doing this and sharing your time.

600
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Speaker 21: The question I had was in regards to the Colts,

601
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Speaker 21: kind of piggybacking off of what my buddy' Zach key

602
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 21: for Aggs. But if the Texans go, we'll let Will

603
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 21: Anders I'm sorry two and the first two guys are

604
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Speaker 21: Bryce Young and Will Anderson. Do you think that there's

605
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 21: a big enough gap between CJ's Nanthy Richard and Will

606
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 21: Levis for the Colts to say, hey, we probably should

607
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 21: move up to number three if we can to go

608
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 21: get the Ohio State quarterback.

609
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean from my tape study and the homework

610
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: I've done watching these guys, I think there is a

611
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: gap between C. J. Stroud and then that next group

612
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Speaker 2: which with Richardson and Levis. So, you know, again, Chris

613
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: Ballard has got access to a lot more information than

614
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: I do. He've got a chance to really visit with

615
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: these guys and really figure out how they fit them

616
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: and their coaching staff. You know, from my job and

617
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: my role and what I do watching these guys on

618
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: tape and studying them, I thought there was a you know,

619
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: there was a gap between Stroud and next. So if

620
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm in an organization where we've been on the quarterback caroussel,

621
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: the veteran carousel, and this is the draft we've identified

622
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: as the one where we're going to try and take

623
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: our swing, I want to guarantee that I get the

624
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: guy that I really really like. So yeah, for me,

625
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: it would be worth it to move up a spot

626
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: and give up whatever you have to give up. I

627
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: don't think it would be too costly just to just

628
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: to guarantee you don't get somebody leaping over the top

629
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: of you to get your guy. But you know, again,

630
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of stuff with Levis in them

631
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: and maybe that's their guy. Maybe they're comfortable and that's

632
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: maybe that's why they've been so content that they're they're

633
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: comfortable with a couple of different options.

634
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Chris Franklin.

635
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Speaker 22: Hey, Daniel, how you doing man? Thanks for doing this.

636
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 22: Peters Kronski has been mentioned as a potential place for

637
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 22: at the Eagles to pink them at ten. But in

638
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 22: case he goes or they say they go with defense,

639
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 22: who would be a Jeff Stoutlin type of guy they

640
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 22: could pick in the second or third rounds of fill

641
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 22: a position.

642
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: Of right guard. Yeah, there's some good options. There's some

643
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: intriguing players to me, I would you know, I could

644
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: go in a couple different areas for stout but I

645
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: would say Matthew Bergeron from Syracuse is one. I mean,

646
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: he's big, six ' five, he's three hundred and eighteen pounds,

647
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: he's played left tackle. You know, you've seen what they've

648
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: done there. They've been able to take tackles and make

649
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: them guards. So he's gonna be He's going to be

650
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: ahead of the game in terms of the past protection

651
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: and he can move. I think he's a really really

652
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: good player, So that would be one. I would I

653
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: would keep an eye on as somebody in the second

654
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: round that could that could kick in. I also, you know,

655
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: if we're looking for surprise first rounders, I wouldn't be

656
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: shocked if he was, you know, one of those guys

657
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: that snuck in, you know, to the bottom of the

658
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: first round. So he's an interesting player. Another guy you

659
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: could say to fit stout, you know it'll be I'm

660
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: always looking for bigger guys that kind of beat people

661
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: up a little bit. I think Steve Avila will be

662
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: gone from TCU, but he would be one that would

663
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: make some sense there. And then I would say the

664
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: last one, give you one more bonus one. Uh maybe

665
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: a guy like City South from eastern Michigan, not in

666
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: the second round, but maybe a little bit later. He

667
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: just strikes me as a stout one type. Guy's almost

668
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: six with five three hundred twenty three pounds. He's got

669
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: some length, he can move, he's got some torque, he's

670
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: got some power. Those seem to be the kind of

671
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: traits that that Stout has appreciated over the years.

672
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: Next question comes from tarn Wack.

673
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 23: Is more of a big picture when you look at

674
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 23: a draft and back on recent years, how would you

675
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 23: define whether a draftd was it success? And based on

676
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 23: that criteria, what kind of grade would you give this Saints.

677
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. I always look back at

678
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: it and try and say, Okay, a great draft to me,

679
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: a good draft, Like the goal should be to get

680
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: three starters. If you can get three starters out of

681
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: your draft, to me, you feel pretty good about your haul.

682
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: If you get four, it's an unbelievable draft. And one

683
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: thing the Saints have been able to do is they've

684
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: been able to on occasion just knock it completely out

685
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: of the park. So you know, you go back and

686
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: look what they were able to do when what was

687
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: it twenty seventeen. You know, when you get Latimore, Ramcheck,

688
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: Marcus Williams, you know Kamara Hendrickson, Like, that's that's an

689
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: that's an all time excellent draft. So they've been able

690
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: to have drafts like that one where they've knocked it

691
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: out of the park. And then over the last few

692
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: years they've they've gotten solid players, but they haven't been

693
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: able to to maybe get as many difference makers until

694
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: last year with with what you saw from Olave and

695
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: you know what you're hoping Trevor Penning is going to

696
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: be but that that twenty seventeen draft is definitely the

697
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: gold standard there in that organization.

698
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jeff Fedterton.

699
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 24: DJ, thanks so much for doing this. I had a

700
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 24: question about Addie Tommy wall Adi bare We all saw

701
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 24: what he did during the combine, what does this film

702
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 24: look like? And where do you see him going in

703
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 24: the draft?

704
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's a fascinating player, you know, coming

705
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: out of the fall. You know, I would say teams weren't,

706
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, sky high on him, and they all knew

707
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: he was going to test like crazy. So you had

708
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: people saying, Okay, well, you know, I think he's more

709
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: of a third fourth round player. The way do you

710
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: see him test? He's going to test like crazy. And

711
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: then you talk to some of those same people after

712
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: he works out and puts on a show and they go, oh, man,

713
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: he's unbelievable. I mean, I think he's going to go

714
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: in the second round. And I said, well, wait a second,

715
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: you what's changed you? You didn't necessarily love him on

716
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: the tape. You knew he was going to blow it out.

717
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: He blows it out, and now you're saying that he's

718
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: moving up, so he's been a fascinating case study from

719
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: that standpoint. But I like him to me. I think,

720
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, he's for me personally. He's going to be

721
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: in my late second round range as a player. But

722
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: you know, the athleticism is off the charts and the

723
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: testing side of things. I think On the field, you know,

724
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: he shows you some of that inside outside versatility, knows

725
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: how to use his long arms to set the edge.

726
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was a you know, a real

727
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: polished pass rusher. I didn't think he had a great

728
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: game plan as a rusher. But you know, I think

729
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: when you have the combination of explosiveness and length that

730
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: he has, he's an intriguing guy. I just you know,

731
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: I know some buzz about him going in the first

732
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: round that would be a little a little early for me.

733
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 6: That's great, Thanks so much.

734
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

735
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: Next question comes from McKenna Keel, how are.

736
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 25: You and the kind of killed pop twelve network joy

737
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 25: this every year. I hope that you have some post

738
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 25: draft vacation plans in the work.

739
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: I just want to can hey schedule release show come on?

740
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: There's no there's no breakout for the draft.

741
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 26: And I forget.

742
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 25: Come on, there's truly no off season. You guys are

743
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 25: amazing though, and like everyone has said, thanks for doing that.

744
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 15: I know we're running tight on time, but just quickly

745
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 15: wanted to.

746
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 25: Get your high level thoughts on a couple of the

747
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 25: top PAC twelve prospects. Uh, let's see Dumkin Caid and

748
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 25: Clerk Phillips out of Utah, Jordan Addison out of US

749
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 25: the maybe Sharbonnet and Christian Gonzalez out of Moregon.

750
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: Sure, I'll start with Kincaid. I've been h I don't

751
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: know if I'm the captain of the fan club, but

752
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: I know I'm in the running when my finalist comes out.

753
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: He into the process that'll come out Monday. He ended

754
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: the process of my ninth overall player. Padam is a

755
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 2: top tight end. I think he's a special, special talent.

756
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: You know, he had the back so he couldn't work

757
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: out in the spring. I think if he had been

758
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: able to work out, I think he would have cemented

759
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: himself as a top fifteen pick. He's a stud. He

760
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: is awesome off the line. He's awesome at the top

761
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: of his routes. He can separate, he's got great hands,

762
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: He's competitive after the catch, he can make you miss.

763
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: I think he's one of the best players in the draft,

764
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: and everything I was told physically from teams he came

765
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: out of that fine. Teams are comfortable with him medically,

766
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: so I don't envision him dropping for that reason at all.

767
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: But I think he's an elite player, one of the

768
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: best in the draft. Clark Phillips, his teammate, he's going

769
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: to be a nickel. He's undersized, but he's got incredible

770
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: ball production and toughness and quickness. I think he would

771
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: struggle a little bit holding up outside consistently, but he's

772
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: somebody I think you're probably going to see him in

773
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: that third round range is when he starts coming into

774
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: the conversation. But a really, really good nickel. He ended

775
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: the process in a really deep class. I think he's

776
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: my eleventh or twelfth guy. So God mansion to see

777
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: between him and jar Tavis Martin from ILLINOI who goes

778
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: off the board first two really good nickels. Addison ended

779
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: the process as he started it for me as my

780
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: top receiver. I wish he was heavier the I don't

781
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: love the one hundred and seventy three pound aspect. But

782
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: this guy made more big plays down the field in

783
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: twenty one than anybody in the country, so I know

784
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: he can make big plays. He can get over the top.

785
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's a talented guy after the catch.

786
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: He's not going to be able to break many tackles,

787
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: you know, not real physical, but he can make you miss.

788
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: He can run away from you. I think he plays

789
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, he plays fast, so smooth, fast, fluid guy.

790
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: I've dropped him down a little bit from where I

791
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: initially had him. Overall, he ended the process and my

792
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: fifteenth player. I think he's somebody that's going to go

793
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: off the board. He might be the second one to go.

794
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: There seems to be more support for Smith and Jigba

795
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: around the league as the top receiver with more teams.

796
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: Some have Addison, but I would say more than likely

797
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: that Smith and Jigba was the first one and he's

798
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: the second one. Then you go to Charbonnay to me

799
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: is a mid to late second round, maybe gets into

800
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: the third round. Running back. You know, some teams were

801
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: worried that he runs a little bit too high, but

802
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: I think he can drop levels on contact. He's real physical,

803
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: he's tough showed last year what he could do catching

804
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: the ball. He stays square, does a nice job and

805
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: pass protection. I think he's one of the you know,

806
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: he's one of these guys that can finish a game

807
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: as well as he can start it. He can be

808
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: a four minute back and put a game away. So

809
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm high on him. He's my third running back in

810
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: this draft class. And then LASTLYE Gonzales, he's in the mix.

811
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: I would say it's it's pretty much a coin flip

812
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: to see who goes first at the position between him

813
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: and Witherspoon from Illinois. With Witherspoon, you get a little

814
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: bit more playmaking, a little bit more aggressive, a little

815
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: bit more urgent, whereas with with Gonzales, you obviously get

816
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: the size and the speed that's pretty elite, and he's

817
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: a real fluid, smooth athlete. So I think the uh,

818
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: there's a high likelihood that that both those corners come

819
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: off the board in the top ten picks. So it's

820
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: a good year for the Pac twelve when you've got

821
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: a chance to have You know, for me, you got

822
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: my top tight end, it's my top wide receiver in

823
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: my number two corner, my number three running back. That's

824
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 2: a pretty good that's a pretty good year.

825
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 26: Awesome.

826
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: Thank you, DJ.

827
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, no problem.

828
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jonas Schaeffer.

829
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 27: Hey, DJ, thank you for doing this as a follow

830
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 27: up to what was asked about Lamar earlier. You know,

831
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 27: it seems like there's optimism around him being back in

832
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 27: Baltimore for this season, but if there were uncertainty about

833
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 27: you know, whether you kind of bring him back for

834
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 27: twenty twenty four. Is there a way that you would

835
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 27: approach a draft like this to maybe you know, have

836
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 27: that kind of insurance planner to put yourself in a

837
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 27: better spot to be agile for that next draft.

838
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 5: I know, obviously if you trade Lamar.

839
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 27: You get a lot of draft capital that way, But

840
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 27: is there kind of a way to split the difference

841
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 27: if you're unsure about what might next year hold for

842
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 27: you in that quarterback position.

843
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's you know, I think it's just

844
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: good business and being smart to bring in you know,

845
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: another their option. You know, it's just a matter of

846
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: where you want to do it. I don't think it

847
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: makes as much sense to do it early. I don't

848
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 2: think you need to go like that's almost I don't

849
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: want to say a panic pick. But if you're taking

850
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: a quarterback or you're trading up for a quarterback, you're

851
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: you're all but kicking Lamar Jackson out the door. I think,

852
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: to me, there's a way to kind of have your

853
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: cake and eat it too, where you identify one of

854
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: these guys in the third, fourth round that's got some ability,

855
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: that's got some talent, somebody you want to work with.

856
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: So it gives you another guy in the quarterback room,

857
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: but that doesn't do anything to hurt you in your

858
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: negotiations with Lamar to try and do what you know

859
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: it's best for everybody, and that would be getting a

860
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: long term deal done. So I think that allows you

861
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: to kind of serve both those serve both those goals.

862
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: So that that to me, you know, just from the

863
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: outside looking in, to me, that is the It's a

864
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: good compromise that I think keeps from upsetting Lamar Jackson,

865
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: doesn't mess with your negotiations, but also gives you another

866
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: guy to take a look at in your building.

867
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, just to just to get follow up quickly on that.

868
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 27: Do you think it would make more sense, you know,

869
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 27: in that case to not take a quarterback in like

870
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 27: the third or fourth round this year and maybe trade

871
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 27: into next year's drafts so you have that.

872
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: Capital available if you need to make a deal for

873
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: the move up.

874
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think you have to understand

875
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: what that with that entails is that you know you're

876
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: going to have a chance to maybe get a quarterback

877
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: next year, but there's no guarantees of you know, of

878
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: that taking place. If you take one now in the

879
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: third round, at least you get one in the building

880
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: versus you know, the danger with next year when we

881
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: have a couple of high profile guys and I think

882
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: it's actually got a chance to be a pretty deep

883
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: drafted quarterback next year. But you know, the two guys

884
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: that everybody's kind of pointed to and everybody's talking about,

885
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: and the hall thought process of if I have a

886
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: bunch of picks next year and I can trade up

887
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: and get one of those two guys, Well, when you

888
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: get special quarterbacks, nobody's trading out of those spots, so

889
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: you can have all the first round picks you want.

890
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: If you're not picking one or two, you're not gonna

891
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: sniff either one of those guys. So that to me

892
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a danger of trying to

893
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: put all your eggs in that basket.

894
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Nolan Beyonci Hey.

895
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 28: Daniel, thanks for doing this as we enter the home

896
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 28: stretch here, I'm just wondering, is there a percent chance

897
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 28: you could put on the likelihood of more than two

898
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 28: qbs going in the top five, and if it's only

899
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 28: the two in Stroud and Young, how does that alter

900
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 28: the value of the Lions pick at six? Is there

901
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 28: a best case scenario for how the board can fall

902
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 28: in front of them?

903
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think the best case scenario for the Lions

904
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: is the opposite. I think if I'm the Lions, I

905
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: want all four of those quarterbacks to go. You know,

906
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: if that happens, you're going to get one of the

907
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: premier players in the draft, you know, one of these

908
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: defensive players specifically. So that's what I'd be rooting for

909
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: if I was Brad Holmes there in Detroit. But you know,

910
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: it's tough. It's hard at this point time to put

911
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: any type of a percentage on it without knowing, you know,

912
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: what the heck Houston's going to do. So, you know,

913
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: I have no idea. There's a lot of smoke out

914
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: there about them. Not taking one. If they don't take

915
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: one and all of a sudden Arizona can't get out,

916
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: then we're looking that, you know, two quarterbacks going in

917
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: the top four, potentially the top five, and that means

918
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: more than likely that one of those quarterbacks is going

919
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: to get down the board even further to your talking

920
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: about nine or ten. At that point in time, I

921
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: think we start seeing some action take place. So that

922
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: to me, if they're they're not good enough to go

923
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: up there in the top five, they get to ten,

924
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: now you bring in a whole new wave of teams

925
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: that could be in the quarterback market and can trade up.

926
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: And we've seen that in years past. We saw it

927
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: in gosh, what was it, the you know, the Mahomes

928
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: draft with with him and Watson, those you know, ten twelve,

929
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: that area, you know there seems to be kind of

930
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: that new sweet spot of quarterbacks. You saw justin Fields

931
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: going that range, saw mac Jones going that range. So

932
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times we assume these quarterbacks

933
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: are all going to roll and they're all going to

934
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: go off the board in the top five. But there's

935
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: a lot of history over the last handful of years

936
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: where that that you know nine ten to fifteen range

937
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: has been a spot where you could see teams go

938
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 2: get one.

939
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Eric Smith.

940
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 29: Hey, DJ, I appreciate your time with the Charger that

941
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 29: twenty one. What's the ideal scenario and what they trade

942
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 29: down still in the first round but still get a

943
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 29: player they like at you know, late twenty the early thirties.

944
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a real possibility. And

945
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: I think as you're getting ready to pay justin you know,

946
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: having having more cheap starters is going to be is

947
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: going to be the way to go. And I think

948
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: look no further than the Chiefs and what they were

949
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: able to do, you know, in the Tyreek trade and

950
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: playing so many rookies and getting so many cheap starters

951
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: through the draft. So I think trading down makes a

952
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: lot of sense if they were to trade down. Now

953
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: you start looking at you know, you could you know,

954
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: edge rushers and receivers. I think there's value down there

955
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the first round. You know, we'll

956
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: see where some of these edge rushers go, like Miles Murphy,

957
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: you know, Will McDonald would be another one I think

958
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: is interesting. Felix and A. D. K Uzama from Kansas State, Like,

959
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: I think you get one of those guys. Maybe b

960
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: j O Jilari would be another one you could consider.

961
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: But I think there's a good group of edg rushers

962
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: you could be picking from if you traded even to

963
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: the top of the second round, if you were to

964
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: trade all the way out, I think there's some guys

965
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: that would fit. And then, you know, receiver wise, if

966
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: you're looking for guys that can you know, really stretch

967
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: the field, you know, vertically, I think there's a chance

968
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: you see one of those top wide receivers, one of

969
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: that top five or six guys, you know, Jay Flowers

970
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: be in that mix. At that point in time, I

971
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: think Addison will be gone, Smith and Jigbo be gone.

972
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: There seems to be some late push and buzz around

973
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: the league for Quentin Johnston, who's getting a lot of attention,

974
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: so I think he's probably gone. But when you're looking

975
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: at Jalen Hyatt from Tennessee and then you're looking at

976
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers, those are probably the two guys I think

977
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: would be you know, interesting fits if they were to

978
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 2: trade back.

979
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Ryan mcbatten.

980
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 30: Hey, Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this. I asked got

981
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 30: a quick question regarding to Broncos but then picking in

982
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 30: the third round. Also in what direction you think the

983
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 30: Broncos should go in this draft and what are so players,

984
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 30: particularly that they're around you think they should target.

985
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of different ways they could go.

986
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: You know, I still think you know, with Sean Payton,

987
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: he's always going to be obsessed with the trenches, even

988
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: though they were very active on both sides of the

989
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage in free agency. I wouldn't rule that

990
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: out of them. You know, continue to fortify that group,

991
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: so you know, offensive line, defensive line would make some

992
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: sense there. You look at the linebacker position, you know,

993
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: continuing to add guys in the mix there, you know

994
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: that would be that wouldn't be a surprise. And you

995
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: always have the corner position where they can continue to invest.

996
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: So when you're looking at where they're picking, they picked

997
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: sixty seven, they picked sixty eight. You know, I think

998
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: there's some there's some intriguing defensive lineman. You look at

999
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: a guy like Zach Pickens from South Carolina, who's uh,

1000
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred and ninety plus pounds and it's

1001
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: got some juice. I like him a lot. You're going

1002
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: to see Gervon Dexter from Florida. He's going to start

1003
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: getting mentioned in that range of the draft. One of

1004
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: the guys who's kind of a sleeper for me, who

1005
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: I think could factor into that third rounds the guy

1006
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: named Scott matt Locke from Boise State who was not

1007
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: invited to the Combine, so a little bit under the radar,

1008
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: but he's a really good player and teams like him

1009
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: a lot. So those are some defensive linemen I think

1010
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: that could make some sense there. And then when you

1011
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: look at the linebackers, I don't love this linebacker class,

1012
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: but there are some intriguing names, and you know, to me,

1013
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: a guy like Marte Mapu from Sack State. He's another

1014
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: one who did not get invited to the Combine who

1015
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: I think is is a is a is a third

1016
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: round player every day of the week. He just got

1017
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: a peck injury so he couldn't work out in the spring,

1018
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: but he was awesome at the Senior Bowl. He's rangy,

1019
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: he can really really cover, So having linebackers that can cover,

1020
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: especially in the AFC West, is a big deal. I

1021
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: think he'd be a nice one to add to their mix.

1022
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jerry Depola.

1023
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 10: Thank you very much for your time with Daniel. I'm

1024
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 10: curious of your thoughts on some of the PITT players,

1025
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 10: a Collidja Canzie, Is he a band of Canda? Maybe Servasier, Dennis, Jared,

1026
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 10: Wayne and all. So what did the NFL these days

1027
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 10: think of PITT as a proving grind for NFL prospects.

1028
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: Well, it's done a really nice job, you know, they

1029
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: they produce quality NFL players. They and to me, they

1030
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: have you know, they have a degree of toughness that

1031
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: they all seem to possess, which is which is always

1032
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: going to be you know, well received and positive. So

1033
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: to me, that's a that's a pretty good spot to

1034
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: be in. So when I look at some of their guys,

1035
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: Elijah Cancy, you know, I'm curious to see where he

1036
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: ends up going on my final list. He ended up

1037
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: being my twenty sixth overall player. You know, Ed Oliver

1038
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: was my comparison for him, who went much higher than that.

1039
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: But somebody you know, obviously the twitch, the quickness, ability

1040
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: to play on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

1041
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: You know, I do think he needs to win early,

1042
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: doesn't have. You know, it doesn't have real long arms,

1043
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: but I think he's a He's a twenty five to

1044
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: thirty five type. I think that's probably where he ends

1045
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: up going off the board somewhere, you know, in the

1046
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: in the late portion of the first round, maybe into

1047
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: the second round. A'm an Akonda, the the running back

1048
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: has got big time juice. You know, he wasn't a

1049
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: huge asset in the passing game, but I think there's

1050
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: more there. He's real slippery, makes you miss, he's got

1051
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: good vision, and he's really really explosive. So I thought

1052
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: he did a nice shop as a route runner, just

1053
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: didn't give as many opportunities there. Servasi a Dennis not

1054
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: only one of the all time names in this draft,

1055
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: but a really good player who when you talk to

1056
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: the guys there, they rave about how smart he is.

1057
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: You know, he rushed the pass or he does a

1058
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: lot of different things. He's gonna have to play primarily

1059
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: off the ball at the next level, but man, his

1060
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: off the ball timing is a blitzer and his ability

1061
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: to kind of just slither through blocks and make plays

1062
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: as impressive. So he's intriguing. I would say you're talking

1063
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: about him in the fourth round range somewhere around there.

1064
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: So it's a good group. Brandon Hill, the safety is

1065
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: intriguing as well. Somebody in a safety class it's not

1066
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: that great. He's my seventh safety, so I think he'll

1067
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: factor in somewhere on Day three.

1068
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

1069
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: Sure.

1070
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Charlie Potter.

1071
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 31: Yeah, hey, Daniel, you talked about having Bryson Bill talk

1072
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 31: to players. You have two other guys from Alabama in

1073
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 31: your top thirty one, just beyond those possible day one pigs.

1074
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 31: Who's your next best Alabama player? Maybe a couple of

1075
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 31: guys that stand out to you.

1076
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to me, it's Bryce, it's Will and then

1077
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, Gibbs and Branch would be the next two.

1078
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, in a draft like this,

1079
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: we can talk about running backs and kind of go

1080
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: all in on that and whether you take them, whether

1081
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: you don't take them. There's not thirty one players better

1082
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: than Jamior Gibbs in this draft, and I think teams

1083
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the first round give him serious consideration. Branch,

1084
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: you know, I wish he ran a little faster than

1085
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: he did, but you know, the versatility, I think he's

1086
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: the best nickel in the draft. You can play them

1087
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: all over though, So I think he's he's gonna go

1088
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: mid to late one to early two in that range,

1089
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: but he'd be the next one for me, and then

1090
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: after that it would be Jordan Battle. So Jordan Battle's

1091
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: my third safety, you know, the anticipation. I love his eyes.

1092
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: I wish he had a little bit more twitch, but

1093
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: he's somebody that I think, especially immediately, he's gonna get

1094
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: on the field. He's going to be really good on

1095
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: special teams as well, something he did well there. So

1096
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: those would be my next guys in order, and then

1097
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: you've got you know, Tyler Steen and Mliquor would be

1098
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: probably next as the offensive lineman, same grade. I also

1099
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: have on on Henry Tote. So those guys I think

1100
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: are all going to go in like the third round range.

1101
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: Would be my guest for those three.

1102
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Alexander Wilson.

1103
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: Hey, Daniel, what you.

1104
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 32: Know Coming into the season last year it seemed like

1105
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 32: Kayshaun Boody was going to maybe be a first round picked,

1106
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 32: and obviously his stocks seems to have plummeted. How did

1107
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 32: we get to this point with him and what do

1108
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 32: you make of him as a prospect at this point.

1109
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was somebody that when he was younger,

1110
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: you paid attention to him and he kind of jumped

1111
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: off the tape a little bit and got you excited.

1112
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: I didn't really see that, you know, him take that

1113
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: next step going forward. So you know, there are some

1114
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: teams that still really like him and they're holding on

1115
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: to what they saw earlier. But I didn't think he

1116
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: was just real crisp as a route runner. You know,

1117
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: I think he's a smooth athlete. He ran fast enough

1118
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: at four or five flat. But I thought he just was, uh,

1119
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, drifted a little bit on routes. I didn't

1120
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: think he was real cleaner crisp. And I didn't think

1121
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: he was super physical at the catch point. So you know,

1122
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: a lot of times in the NFL, the space disappears.

1123
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: You got to have you got to be strong, uh,

1124
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: you know, in the midst of some other bodies. And

1125
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: I thought at times he just wasn't real physical at

1126
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: the catch point. So that's that was that was my

1127
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: personal hang up. But in terms of where he goes,

1128
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: we see this every year with guys that have have

1129
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: maybe not been as good later in their careers. That

1130
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: some teams, you know, they're gonna believe in what they

1131
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: saw earlier and stick to that and uh, and that's

1132
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: the type of team he's gonna need in this draft

1133
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 2: to uh to bring him in. So I think he's

1134
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: probably in that. If you're gonna ask me right now,

1135
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: I'd say he's like a fourth round type pick. But

1136
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: the beauty he's in the eye of the beholder, and

1137
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: if you get a team that's a little more attached

1138
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: to what he showed early in his career, maybe goes

1139
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: a little bit higher as a fallow to that.

1140
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 32: Are there any other ls you guys that are sort

1141
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 32: of rising for you or just what do you make

1142
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 32: of the group coming from them this season?

1143
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? So you know, Ojelari seems to be getting a

1144
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 2: little bit of buzz here late. He's my thirty fifth

1145
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: overall player, so I mean's he's a good player. Jay

1146
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: Ward is intriguing again when you look at this safety class,

1147
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: He's somebody that you know, could play some corner, can

1148
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: play some nickel, and play safety. He didn't run super fast,

1149
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: but I think he's fast enough and he's he's intriguing

1150
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: guy as a mid round pick. So those would be

1151
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: the guys that jump out to me. You know, you

1152
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 2: look at Roy Jacqueline. Roy might be spelling, I might

1153
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: be pronouncing his first name wrong, but he's uh. He's

1154
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: a good player. He's down the line a little bit

1155
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: for me as a defensive tackle. But somebody who's uh,

1156
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: you know, has got the size you're looking for for sure.

1157
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: I think he's more of a Day three guy.

1158
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Tom Krassovic.

1159
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: Daniel, I'm still marveling at what the Chiefs did last year.

1160
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: I think they got like three defensive backs and edge

1161
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: rusher and running back who all helped him win a

1162
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as a rookie. This time of year ago

1163
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: after their draft, did you think that was a potential

1164
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: outcome and how did they do it? And who could

1165
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: do something like that this year where we most of

1166
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: us don't even know who the guys are they draft,

1167
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: but then we turn around and it's a heck of

1168
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: a class just one year later.

1169
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I felt pretty great about their draft

1170
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: last year. Now, if you're giving me truth serum, I

1171
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: would not have predicted Isaiah Pacheco would have the role

1172
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: that he had on a super Bowl winning team as

1173
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: a rookie. So that was the one exception. I thought

1174
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: he was a good player, but I did not know

1175
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: he would he would do that and turned into the

1176
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: known unbelievable bargain there in the seventh round. But Trent

1177
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: mcduffio was a big fan of Carl Loftus. I was

1178
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: a big fan of Sky Moore. I was a big

1179
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: fan of you know, Brian Cook. I liked Leo Chanall.

1180
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you go all the way down the list

1181
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: like they they had a lot of resources. So when

1182
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: you have what one, two, three, four picks in the

1183
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: top sixty two, that's a that's a good haul. And

1184
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: and Brett Veach did a wonderful job of bringing guys

1185
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: in that were that were smart, athletic and coachable. And

1186
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: I give their staff credit because sometimes it's not just

1187
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: your you know, your scouting staff being able to identify talent,

1188
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: it's your coaching staff being able to develop that talent.

1189
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: And I think the Chief's coaching staff is one of

1190
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: the best teaching staffs in the NFL. And and that

1191
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: was evident by the way they're able to get these

1192
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: young guys on the field early and get them up

1193
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 2: and running, and they just got better and better as

1194
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: the year went along, So I think they've kind of

1195
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: they've laid out the blueprint for teams that have paid

1196
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: their quarterback. This is how you have to do it.

1197
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: You know, you've got to go out there get extra picks.

1198
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to pay everybody, but

1199
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: you need to hit on draft picks. So if you

1200
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 2: can get more of them, get increase your odds. Those

1201
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: are the cheap starters you need to round out your team.

1202
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a team this year that can

1203
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: sort of do something like that.

1204
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, I'm intrigued to see what happens with the Detroit

1205
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: Lions because they're right on the cusp. They're a really

1206
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: good team. We saw, you know, within a whisker of

1207
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: making the playoffs last year, and now when you look

1208
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: where they're picking, they've got four of the top fifty

1209
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: five picks. They've got another one there at eighty one,

1210
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 2: so they've got a chance to add some real, real

1211
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: help to their roster. And the way that their lineup

1212
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: is set up right now, you don't look like they

1213
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 2: can't line up and play tomorrow at a certain spot,

1214
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: so that allows them to take the best available player.

1215
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: Brad Holmes I give him a lot of credit. He

1216
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: took a lot of grief after the Stafford trade and

1217
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: they went on and won the Super Bowl with the Rams.

1218
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: But he knew the timing and he nailed it because

1219
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: they weren't ready to win yet and he was able

1220
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: to still get a quality quarterback in return and load

1221
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: up with all these assets, and now they're in great shape.

1222
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that there's you know, many

1223
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: teams you'd rather be than them right now with where

1224
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: they are as an organization and the assets they have

1225
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: to go ahead and take that next step.

1226
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 6: Awesome, Thanks Daniel.

1227
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Yep. By the way, I didn't say this at the top.

1228
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: I probably should have happy Fernando tatists data everybody. I

1229
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: hope you're all celebrating as much as I am.

1230
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Bradley Locker.

1231
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 16: I DJ sincerely appreciate all of your insight turning to

1232
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 16: the Steelers and the moves they made in free agency,

1233
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 16: addressing a lot of the offensive line and defensive line

1234
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 16: in particular, do you still think cornerback and offensive tackle

1235
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 16: or the positions they might go early, but also where

1236
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 16: do you think edge rusher might fit into that mix?

1237
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1238
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: I think those are the three spots, you know, I

1239
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: think you've got to see how it kind of falls,

1240
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: how the draft falls. I would just say, if you're

1241
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: looking at those three, to me, you know where they're

1242
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: picking at seventeen, it makes more sense to go offensive

1243
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: tackle first. I think there's a bigger drop off at

1244
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: that position if you don't get one there with your

1245
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: first pick. Now they come right back at it and

1246
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: pick at thirty two, so you know they'll have a

1247
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: chance to, you know, address those other needs. But to me,

1248
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: it makes the most sense if one of those top

1249
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: tackles is there, take the tackle at seventeen, and then

1250
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: you turn around thirty two, and I think you can

1251
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: afford to just say, hey, highest rated player between a

1252
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: corner and an edge rusher. I think there's going to

1253
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: be some really good options at both those spots. So

1254
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: I think they're in a pretty good position in this draft,

1255
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: coming on the heels of what they already accomplished. And

1256
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: then again you're picking at forty nine, So seventeen, thirty two,

1257
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: forty nine, you talked about those three positions. I don't

1258
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: see why they couldn't come out of those first three

1259
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: picks with three starters between a tackle, a corner and

1260
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: an edge rusher. Wonderful, Thank you.

1261
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Palmer with Dog's HQ.

1262
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 26: Hey, DJ, I heard you mentioned Stetson Bennett's name earlier.

1263
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 26: What do you see as his ceiling in the NFL

1264
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 26: and what would be a good comparison for him? And

1265
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 26: then Kenny McIntosh, the running back from Georgia. Where does

1266
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 26: he fit into what's a deep class of running backs?

1267
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with Stetson, you know, it's interesting to me.

1268
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: He's a he's a different body type. But if you're

1269
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: if you're looking at maybe a little bit a little skinnier,

1270
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: faster version of Colt McCoy would be a comparison for me.

1271
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: You know, Colt won in college. Colt could run, he

1272
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: could move. He just found a way to make winning

1273
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: plays even though he didn't necessarily fit all the specs

1274
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: you were looking for coming from a you know, a

1275
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: true blue blood program as well. So you know, I

1276
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: would I would say that would be my vision for

1277
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: him as somebody that can start games here or there,

1278
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: but you know it's going to give you a really

1279
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: really athletic and uh, you know, a good solid backup

1280
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: that if you need to get through three or four games,

1281
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: you wouldn't feel bad about giving him the keys. So

1282
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: that's where I would have stetson Bennett in terms of

1283
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: a comparison. And then when you're looking at the running

1284
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: back position, it's interesting, it's you know, I wish Kenny

1285
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: would have ran faster. He ran the four sixes. He's he's,

1286
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: you know, a similar type of player to Tony Pollard

1287
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: coming out, just doesn't have the juice that Tony Pollard had.

1288
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: But he's one of the best pass catching backs. I

1289
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: think he's, you know, I think he's going to be

1290
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 2: a Day three guy. I think in this group where

1291
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: we have so many backs, it's a pretty deep and

1292
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: talented group. I would say I would put that mark

1293
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: probably around the fifth round is about the range of

1294
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: where he hears his name called. But again, really good

1295
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: with the ball in his hands in an excellent passing game.

1296
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Josh Shruck.

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00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this.

1298
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 12: The Bears have pretty much had every top tackle in

1299
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 12: for a visit. Darnell writes a name that's kind of

1300
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 12: been percolating here in Chicago. I wanted to know your

1301
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 12: thoughts on his fit at nine with the Bears and

1302
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 12: how he compares to Skoronsky in Paris Johnson.

1303
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think if you're just saying there's

1304
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: a pure tackle, his tape is really really good and

1305
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: playing on the right side this year, and everybody's talked

1306
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: about the fact that he took a big leap in

1307
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: this year, but it's hard to find guys that are

1308
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty pounds that move like him and

1309
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: as strong as he is a right tackle. I think

1310
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: he's plug and play. I think he's ready to go.

1311
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: I have a higher grade on Skoronsky. I think Scarnsky

1312
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: can play tackle. I think Scroonsky can be a good tackle,

1313
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: but I think Scarronsky can be an unbelievable guard. So

1314
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: you know, my order there would be Skoransky and then

1315
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: and then right. But you know I have in my

1316
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: final ranking, I have Paris Campbell or Paris Johnson, Darnell Right,

1317
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: Broderick Jones. They're literally sixteen, seventeen eighteen on my list.

1318
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit higher on Skoronsky, but I

1319
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: think all the four of those guys are going to

1320
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: be starters. I think if you had to play a

1321
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: game tomorrow and know that you're going to line up

1322
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: and play tackle. I think Darnell Wright might be your

1323
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: best option as a right tackle right away, who could

1324
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: plug in there and get going. So, you know, I

1325
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: think there's I don't think there's a wrong answer there.

1326
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: But for me personally, I just think skoransky is is

1327
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: the best overall football player. All right, Well there you go.

1328
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: Hope you guys have enjoyed that. Again, a lot of questions.

1329
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: I enjoy it though. I love talking about this. It's

1330
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: it's really Christmas morning for me once we get to

1331
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: the draft. So a lot of questions, not a lot

1332
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: of answers. Yet at this point in time, a lot

1333
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: known about this draft, which is going to make it compelling.

1334
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: I hope you guys will join us next week on

1335
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: Move the Sticks. We continue to dive into this process

1336
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: and and uh and continue to previ the upcoming draft.

1337
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: So appreciate you hanging with us, and we will catch

1338
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: you next time right here on Move the Sticks.