Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast What is going On? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck
Speaker 1: At Dating. We are in luck today because we finally
Speaker 1: get Jared back with us this week. Jared, Hey, welcome
Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Man Hey, no anytime, Dean, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. Really appreciate it's a great podcast to
Speaker 1: be a part of. Uh. Sorry, I've been a little
Speaker 1: m I A. This coffee shop has been extremely overwhelming
Speaker 1: and time consuming and stressful. And then I had two
Speaker 1: weddings go to last week, one of which was supposed
Speaker 1: to be with you, but you had the flu. But
Speaker 1: you're a good man and you stayed away from everybody,
Speaker 1: and uh, but it's it's been time consuming. I was
Speaker 1: told that Kalen thought that you were making you thought
Speaker 1: I was making a political statement with the mask. No,
Speaker 1: I thought you forgot your um your vaccine card because
Speaker 1: they were checking everybody's vaccine card. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe if you're not vactually you have you don't have
Speaker 1: to wear a mask. I didn't know because then I
Speaker 1: just walked in and I saw you with a mask on.
Speaker 1: The only person in the entire ceremony, the only person.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, he's definitely vaccinated. I know this,
Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, maybe he just forgot
Speaker 1: his vaccine card and they're they're saying he has to
Speaker 1: wear a mask. But then I later found out that
Speaker 1: you had the flu. You tested positive for the flu,
Speaker 1: so everybody knew it was but you still felt like
Speaker 1: you wanted to wear a mask, and then you didn't
Speaker 1: even go to the reception. You just went to the ceremony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had. I would have feel a certain amount of
Speaker 1: guilty if I got anyone sick in any capacity, especially
Speaker 1: like in the state of height and awareness we're in
Speaker 1: right now, and uh, you know, there's some older people
Speaker 1: at the wedding, so like even the flu, I feel
Speaker 1: it could be a pretty serious thing for someone like
Speaker 1: that to get. So I just figured I didn't want
Speaker 1: to miss the ceremony, and I'm glad I didn't. It
Speaker 1: was beautiful, Benn and Jess looked great together. But then
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I just don't feel comfortable going
Speaker 1: to the You don't want to be the guy coughing
Speaker 1: throughout the entire night. Yeah, you see that TikTok, where
Speaker 1: like some guy said he used to cover up his
Speaker 1: farts with a cough and now he covers up his right. Well,
Speaker 1: it was interesting too because I got tested the day
Speaker 1: before the wedding for COVID. I like went in just
Speaker 1: to make sure it wasn't COVID and uh, I was
Speaker 1: like going over my symptoms and they're like, well, hey,
Speaker 1: what does that time you got the flu vaccine? And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I've gotten that in
Speaker 1: over a decade. So they're like, oh, we're gonna test
Speaker 1: for that too, And it's just funny how we get
Speaker 1: all like, you know, getting this COVID vaccine and I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten a flu vaccine and lord knows how long.
Speaker 1: So I guess at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: I'm happy it was only the fluid and not COVID,
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, it's kind of bummer to Mr Reception.
Speaker 1: But so before Ben's wedding, you were at your best
Speaker 1: friend's wedding. You said, yeah, so the girl that signed
Speaker 1: me up to be on the show, our name is Crystal.
Speaker 1: She's my best friend and one of my and her
Speaker 1: fiance is one of my closest friends as well. And
Speaker 1: they got married down and Cancoon. Dude, I've had two
Speaker 1: weddings all years, November twelfth and thirteen. And it's funny
Speaker 1: actually because the my friends who got married Kancoon was
Speaker 1: supposed to get married on Saturday November, but the bride
Speaker 1: of excuse me, the mother of the groom uh is
Speaker 1: very religious and she's like, I don't want my son
Speaker 1: married on the thirteen. I don't know. There's some bad
Speaker 1: luck obviously involved in that, or hopefully not for Ben
Speaker 1: and Jess, But so they moved it to Friday the twelfth,
Speaker 1: which worked out well for me because even though it
Speaker 1: was back to back, at least I got to a
Speaker 1: ten boat. So it was really nice. And Ben and
Speaker 1: Jess's wedding was awesome. Um dude, a lot of people
Speaker 1: for her to people, but it was so nice seeing everybody,
Speaker 1: like I forgot moving back home and being like closer
Speaker 1: to my you know family. It's like, you know, made
Speaker 1: me forget that I have you know you guys in
Speaker 1: other parts of the country that is so much like
Speaker 1: family to me. You know, it's really great. I wish
Speaker 1: we could hang out more. I haven't seen you in forever.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you since Ben's bachelor party, but like
Speaker 1: seeing Nick and Chris Souls who I haven't seen in years, Um,
Speaker 1: Sean Booth and obviously Ben, who I got spiked to
Speaker 1: for like three seconds. Um who else? Did I mean? Nas? Obviously?
Speaker 1: Uh time was there Michael g Becca like people I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen, Like, dude, I haven't seen Tanya. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I might have been pre pandemic. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to go to nap together, right, and
Speaker 1: then that got canceled. So there were like it's weak
Speaker 1: because there were a lot of things for us all
Speaker 1: to meet up at, but just like one by one
Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, actually we're gonna cancel this.
Speaker 1: We're gonna cancel this. So yeah, it was nice seeing
Speaker 1: everybody I didn't dude, Klin was a champ by the way,
Speaker 1: because Klin obviously had to attend the reception by yourself
Speaker 1: because you were sick, and like, I put myself in
Speaker 1: those shoes. If I if my like, if if Ashley
Speaker 1: couldn't be there because she was sick and I was
Speaker 1: at the reception by myself, I don't know, I would
Speaker 1: feel like kind of weird and I might have left early.
Speaker 1: But dude, she was there the entire night. She was mingling,
Speaker 1: she was social. I was like, Klein, you are a champion,
Speaker 1: because if it was me, I probably would have left early. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was funny, I because I left probably like five thirties,
Speaker 1: So I was at home by six like basically went
Speaker 1: straight to bed. And Calyn when I left, she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'll be like, you know, an hour behind you whatever.
Speaker 1: So I like, go home, go to bed, wake up
Speaker 1: at like seven thirty, still no Kalin, wake up at
Speaker 1: eight thirty, still Macalin, wake up at nine thirty. And
Speaker 1: I'm like starting to worry because she was pretty adamant
Speaker 1: about like getting out of there pretty early. Um, and
Speaker 1: I like didn't text or didn't receive any text or
Speaker 1: anything like that from her. But then eventually she walks
Speaker 1: in at like twelve thirty in the morning, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe, because she made it all the way
Speaker 1: to the end. I don't even know if you you
Speaker 1: guys made it to the end. But they eventually sent
Speaker 1: shuttles to send everyone back to their hotels and stuff.
Speaker 1: So she stayed until the very very last moment, which
Speaker 1: I'm proud of her for Yeah, you're right, because it's
Speaker 1: a lot to uh to. It's a it's a heavy,
Speaker 1: not a heavy atmosphere, but like it's atmosphere like you're
Speaker 1: at someone's wedding. They have all their friends and family
Speaker 1: members there, and then like especially Klin, I'm sure knows
Speaker 1: a lot of people from Bachelor, but not everybody that
Speaker 1: was there, So I'm sure she had to introduce herself
Speaker 1: and start conversation and be social with people that she's
Speaker 1: not used to meeting, and then also trying to spend
Speaker 1: times with the people that she actually is friends with,
Speaker 1: like Natalie Um and so yeah, dude, good for her.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is that you I love how
Speaker 1: you were, like, you know, around eight thirty, I was
Speaker 1: starting to get really worried. I mean I didn't text
Speaker 1: or call or anything, and then she walked into the
Speaker 1: door like twelve thirty, So four hours later after you
Speaker 1: said you were concerned, you still hadn't reached out. You know,
Speaker 1: I was like it was like in a in a
Speaker 1: haze because I was like in and out of sleep,
Speaker 1: and I like, obviously she's fine taking care of herself.
Speaker 1: She was with Nick because we got her place with
Speaker 1: Nick in Ittaly as well. So if they got if
Speaker 1: Nick and Natali had gotten back and Caitlin still wasn't back,
Speaker 1: then I would have like done something, but I was
Speaker 1: I was fine with uh kind of everything I was
Speaker 1: going on, I guess, but I want to know more
Speaker 1: about your situation. So you went to this wedding on
Speaker 1: Friday in Mexico and then Saturday, what like Saturday, like
Speaker 1: six am or something, you caught a flight out to Nashville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I flew into Cancoon on Wednesday. Uh, flew out.
Speaker 1: The rehearsal German was Thursday. Wedding was Friday. Flew out
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. The car picked me up at six am
Speaker 1: and then I flew out at nine into Houston. Had
Speaker 1: to lay over for an hour, and then from Houston
Speaker 1: to Nashville, and then I got in around two, drove
Speaker 1: back to the hotel, and then went to the ceremony
Speaker 1: for four So it was a very busy, busy few days,
Speaker 1: but it was also really nice. Both weddings were were
Speaker 1: awesome in their different ways. Because the one down in Cancoon,
Speaker 1: I was obviously in the party, so I was hanging
Speaker 1: out with the groom all day and we had they
Speaker 1: had like a golf SIMI later down there. So we
Speaker 1: did that and then we're just hanging to my room
Speaker 1: and took pictures and got ready. He had a small party.
Speaker 1: It was only me and his future brother in law
Speaker 1: and then obviously the groom, and then they had it
Speaker 1: on the beach and it was really beautiful and the
Speaker 1: reception was on the water as well, and it was
Speaker 1: just great to be there and to see them get married,
Speaker 1: and they're just he's like such a mushball. He so
Speaker 1: he cried when he saw his wife Crystal walk down
Speaker 1: the aisle, and he's just like such a such a sap.
Speaker 1: So that was really cool to be there. And then
Speaker 1: of course going to Ben and Jess's were like this,
Speaker 1: it's this over the top romantic, you know, uh, busy
Speaker 1: wedding with four hundred people there and you know, Ben
Speaker 1: had what like fifteen groomsmen. It was really funny seeing
Speaker 1: them all walk down the aisle because we were sitting
Speaker 1: next to former producers of the batchloor one producer still
Speaker 1: in one former producer, and they were like, well, there's
Speaker 1: the next season's cast of The Bachelorette right there. Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: It made me like a little insecure to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, like Ben has so many friends, like close
Speaker 1: friends where he wants fifteen groomsmen, and I'm like I
Speaker 1: would struggle picking out like five people to be in
Speaker 1: my wedding party. You know. Oh it started making me think,
Speaker 1: like where do I line up in the friendship of Ben?
Speaker 1: Because I think you were like good friends, you know,
Speaker 1: and not not like the room has been level. But
Speaker 1: I was like, oh damn, maybe like I'm like thirty
Speaker 1: second closest to Ben right now, where I thought I
Speaker 1: was like in the high teens. Yeah, that's exactly how
Speaker 1: I felt too, which I mean, look, I guess Ben
Speaker 1: is like one of the most popular and sociable guys.
Speaker 1: I know I said more props to him, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely lent to a little bit of insecurity feeling
Speaker 1: just because I was like, dude, if if and when
Speaker 1: I get married, like what am I gonna do? I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna have twelve grooms been up there and I
Speaker 1: know not like it's not a competition when it comes
Speaker 1: to that kind of stuff, But you can't help put
Speaker 1: like size yourself up a little bit, you know. But
Speaker 1: you said you had a lot, you had like eight
Speaker 1: grooms been what I have like eight to Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had something like eight, but Ashley had the same number.
Speaker 1: We wanted to kind of keep it close. But I also,
Speaker 1: like everybody obviously in the party, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a part of the of the day and be a
Speaker 1: grinsman in the wedding. And oh, well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: you brought up something. Oh you said if and when
Speaker 1: you get married, that feels like, uh, the needle has moved,
Speaker 1: Like that's a different tone when I just, uh, it's
Speaker 1: more just I'm choosing my words a little more carefully
Speaker 1: these days. You know. I think part of the reason
Speaker 1: I always get in trouble with that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: is because I speak so matter of factly. So if
Speaker 1: I say, oh, yeah, I'm never getting married, then people
Speaker 1: take me for my word, which I guess I appreciate
Speaker 1: them taking me for my word, but uh, it just
Speaker 1: gives me more avenues to get away with things. And then,
Speaker 1: because if you say you'll never get married, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be us weekly headline saying trouble in Paradise, Dean Unglert
Speaker 1: says he'll never marry Kaylin Miller keys. Yeah. So now
Speaker 1: so I'm just I'm just starting to choose my words
Speaker 1: a little more carefully that if and when statement. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of gives me an out, it
Speaker 1: makes it makes it less headline grabby. All right, so
Speaker 1: the question becomes Dean, Now you have been to multiple
Speaker 1: weddings with Klin. I'm sure she's getting more fever as
Speaker 1: the years go on. So how's your is I I
Speaker 1: just said the needle felt like it moved? Has it moved?
Speaker 1: Are you more towards like, hey, let's get married? Oh? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: so we sat next to Derek Paith and Saffron his
Speaker 1: fiance at the wedding, and Saffron I had never met.
Speaker 1: So Saffron asked me if we're married, because I've got
Speaker 1: the ring on my finger obviously, and I gave her
Speaker 1: my usual, you know, nonsensical dean answer. Be it as
Speaker 1: it may, maybe maybe not. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: what is marriage? What is life? Yeah? I said, as
Speaker 1: far as the government's concerned, No, as far as our
Speaker 1: hearts are concerned. Yes, um, and then calin like leans
Speaker 1: over and she goes will be engaged by two trust
Speaker 1: me or something like that. So well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: two you got about forty five days left if that
Speaker 1: was happen, Yeah, but I don't know, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if she's speaking for me or if she's saying
Speaker 1: that she's gonna propose to me, which I made it
Speaker 1: pretty clear to her, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you really want to get married, you should be
Speaker 1: the one proposing to me. Uh. So, I think she's
Speaker 1: got something and it works for that, which I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. You know, maybe we could do like
Speaker 1: a dual thing. But uh, I mean, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: it's kind of the fallback or not the fallback. The
Speaker 1: one of the negatives about going all these weddings is
Speaker 1: it gets your girlfriend in a mood to get married. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I guess, you know, give it,
Speaker 1: give us twelve months, twelve thirteen months, and we'll have something,
Speaker 1: something a little more formal on the books. But two,
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out big year for Dean and Kalin.
Speaker 1: We're thinking make your break here Calin proposes. That would
Speaker 1: be freaking awesome. I mean, that would be the most
Speaker 1: Dean and Kalen thing of all time. Where she was like,
Speaker 1: well he was taken too damn long. So I had
Speaker 1: to get on one day. Yeah, yeah, it would probably
Speaker 1: be like, uh, she would probably do it and I
Speaker 1: would and then I would probably do it, or like
Speaker 1: it'll probably happened for both of it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, So what would you say? Uh? Well, I
Speaker 1: would laugh at first, obviously, I probably I'd probably get
Speaker 1: around to say and yes at some point. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: you obviously make her sweat it out a little bit, like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I do love my van life. And uh
Speaker 1: I did say I never wanted to get married. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I make yourself out a little bit, I will say. Though,
Speaker 1: I'm impressed by her. She not well she's always been
Speaker 1: like this, but more so lately in the past like
Speaker 1: six months or so, she like, you know, she gets
Speaker 1: an idea, she says she's gonna do something, and she
Speaker 1: uh it takes a lot less convincing to do it
Speaker 1: than in times past, whereas now she's just like ghoest
Speaker 1: for it, you know what I mean. So, so kudos
Speaker 1: to her. We'll see if what happens. Um it sounds
Speaker 1: to me like she is actually gonna make it happen.
Speaker 1: So that's so I'm saying. Good for Kalin. She's a badass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: putting up with your ass for all these years. Now
Speaker 1: she's going to propose to you. Yeah, we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got some stuff in the works. I don't want
Speaker 1: to spoil anything, but you know, maybe when when it happens,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll all be able to weigh in on the situation. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: you obviously just have to tell the story on the
Speaker 1: podcast after it happens. That's all. That's the deal, right there. Yeah, yeah, true. Um,
Speaker 1: I actually had something else I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: as well. I can't remember. Um, all right, well, why
Speaker 1: do you think of it? I want to tease our guests.
Speaker 1: We have two very special guests that are coming up
Speaker 1: after the break, which will take in a few minutes
Speaker 1: from the new HBO Max Uh show Twelve Dates of Christmas,
Speaker 1: which of course returns for its second season starts Thursday, November,
Speaker 1: and from the show, we have Amanda Grace, Jenkings and
Speaker 1: Marquelle Smith. So we're very excited to talk to them,
Speaker 1: especially we're getting in the holiday season. Twelve Days of Christmas,
Speaker 1: Twelve Dates of Christmas, excuse me, come back for a
Speaker 1: second season. So excited to talk to them. I do
Speaker 1: have something to talk about if you can't think of anything, Dan,
Speaker 1: what I can't think about what you were going to say? Um,
Speaker 1: I think I remembered what I wanted to say, but
Speaker 1: it just does not maybe the time or place for it,
Speaker 1: So feel free to what do you want to talk about?
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about the Pete Davidson thing. What's
Speaker 1: the update with Pete Davidson. Well, obviously he's dating Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 1: which is still the craziest I've ever heard of. I
Speaker 1: can't believe Pete Davidson is dating Kim Kardashian. That's insane
Speaker 1: to me. Good for him, and I hope they're happy.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I did want to talk about
Speaker 1: was he actually revealed his major dating deal breaker, which
Speaker 1: gives me two thoughts which I'll go into in a second.
Speaker 1: And it's something that Cosmopolitan, which is what the article
Speaker 1: is on, agrees with and I wholeheartedly agree with, because
Speaker 1: he says that his deal breaker is when he goes
Speaker 1: on a date and the person he's on the date
Speaker 1: with is treating the wait staff for bartenders poorly. That's
Speaker 1: a big no note in his book quote immediately would
Speaker 1: be over in my head. I would be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: never again. That is it. He said that was his
Speaker 1: one deal breaker, and I could not agree more. As
Speaker 1: someone who's worked in the restaurant industry all of my life, dude,
Speaker 1: I've always said it should be a college requirement for
Speaker 1: people to work in the service industry because it teaches
Speaker 1: you a lot about how to deal with society, how
Speaker 1: to be kind to one another, how to be patient
Speaker 1: with someone when you have to wait on someone and
Speaker 1: clean up after them and serve them food. It like
Speaker 1: teaches you, I truly think, how to just be a
Speaker 1: better person. Yeah. I agree, you treat your white staff poorly.
Speaker 1: That's ah, that's a big red flag. I do want
Speaker 1: to point out this article real quick. Um, I hate
Speaker 1: these articles from places like The News, US Weekly, People Magazine,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Uh. For the record, the people listening
Speaker 1: obviously can't see the article we're referring to. It's basically
Speaker 1: just uh, encapsulating Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson's officially dating relationship. Now.
Speaker 1: But you scroll down eventually and you get you get
Speaker 1: to these sentences where it's saying like Kim isn't looking
Speaker 1: today strictly, She's just really enjoying her life right now,
Speaker 1: per a source that told E News. And it's that
Speaker 1: stuff that really just makes me so frustrated, like probably
Speaker 1: rationally so. A source told this news junket that they're
Speaker 1: that Kim is just having the time of her life.
Speaker 1: No one told, no one close to Kim is telling
Speaker 1: you news that Kim's just having the time of her
Speaker 1: life with Pete Davidson right now. And I know for
Speaker 1: a fact because there have been many articles written about me,
Speaker 1: probably something about you, Kaylin where they're like, according to
Speaker 1: a source very close to E News, Dean and Kaylin
Speaker 1: are on rocky waters right now. And it's just like,
Speaker 1: no one told you guys that we're not on rocky waters.
Speaker 1: Like you're just making crap up just so you have
Speaker 1: like something to write about. So I'm sure Kim and
Speaker 1: Pete are doing great. But when I read things like
Speaker 1: at the time a source told this you know news outlet,
Speaker 1: in my head, I just go everything that I just
Speaker 1: read is completely move because none of it holds anyway whatsoever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the source could be like my cousin, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about kid guard Ashton and being like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: she's just ready to kinda be easy going. They're like
Speaker 1: perfect god a source. Uh, and they're especially like if
Speaker 1: you talk to like, I always think that these sources
Speaker 1: are are like if it's a source close to the
Speaker 1: Kardashian family, it's like their hairdresser's second cousin who saw
Speaker 1: them one time walk into the salon and they said hello,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's a close enough source for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like anytime there's a Bachelor article, it's always like
Speaker 1: an inside source close to production or like a produce
Speaker 1: an inside source close to production said that Ashley and
Speaker 1: Jared are you know, I hate it and and I
Speaker 1: guess for them specifically for the Kardashians, right, Like they've
Speaker 1: kind of built a franchise off of these types of
Speaker 1: articles being written about them. So kudas to them for
Speaker 1: keeping on keeping on and to a degree it kind
Speaker 1: of helps our business as well. Right, So it's not
Speaker 1: all bad, but it's just it just it bothers me
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think now, is that like when
Speaker 1: they talk about the sources, that's what comes to mind
Speaker 1: for me, where it's like somebody who doesn't really know.
Speaker 1: But I do think years ago when they first was
Speaker 1: starting to get there their aim. I think that they
Speaker 1: were the sources like a hundred percent because they want
Speaker 1: to get their names out there. They want to get
Speaker 1: their names in the news, which makes total sense. Like
Speaker 1: I know people who have hired paparazzi to come take
Speaker 1: photos of them when they're leaving a restaurant because it's
Speaker 1: it's exposure. Like they'll I know for a fact, an
Speaker 1: agent of a buddy of mine who calls, uh, the
Speaker 1: paparazzi and no, you guys don't know who this person is.
Speaker 1: You don't know who I'm talking about, so don't make theories. No,
Speaker 1: but like their agent will call the paparazzi and say, hey,
Speaker 1: so and so is gonna be here, please like or
Speaker 1: not even please, but like if you, you know, go
Speaker 1: take pictures of them when they're walking out, because it's
Speaker 1: good exposure. Right if you're you're in the news or
Speaker 1: somebody's seen here, it's just like, sure it's tabloid you know,
Speaker 1: hearsay or tabloid you know, fluff, but it's always good
Speaker 1: to you know, get yourself a little press. I know
Speaker 1: some former Bachelor contestants that will go to dinner and
Speaker 1: call the parazzi on themselves, and I've even heard them say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm bored. I'm gonna call the paparazzi
Speaker 1: and tell them where we're at right now. So yes,
Speaker 1: I've heard people say that before is in sane? Have
Speaker 1: you ever done that? I've never done it personally. I've like,
Speaker 1: I've only really been popped once. I was getting off
Speaker 1: a flight to go get my um my hip tended
Speaker 1: to in Seattle. This is like right after I had
Speaker 1: my accident and I was walking through the airport in
Speaker 1: Seattle and someone like had a camera on me, and
Speaker 1: I was like asking me all these questions and it
Speaker 1: was like stuff about Bachelor, but stuff that I was
Speaker 1: so far removed from, and I was like, why do
Speaker 1: you care about my opinion on any of this stuff?
Speaker 1: It was the weirdest thing they were asking me, like
Speaker 1: about like Peter Weber's uh, you know, shocking ending to
Speaker 1: a season, and I'm like, I'm so far removed from this.
Speaker 1: I have no idea why you guys are asking me
Speaker 1: the questions, So just like leave me alone, but you like,
Speaker 1: I don't don't want to be a jerk. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was it was one of the weird experiences I've
Speaker 1: had um, but yeah, it's always weird. Deal. Well, the
Speaker 1: my best experience with the Papa razzi, which I was
Speaker 1: at the Bad Boys for Life movie premiere because I
Speaker 1: got invited and I was so excited to go, and
Speaker 1: I brought a buddy of mine because actually doesn't care
Speaker 1: about Bad Boys. And I was walking and I don't
Speaker 1: know why this happened to me. I really don't. I
Speaker 1: think that they either mistook me for someone or like
Speaker 1: maybe it just wasn't that many people around, but there
Speaker 1: was like people coming up to me for signatures and
Speaker 1: they must have thought maybe I was in the movie
Speaker 1: or something. But then as they were like asking for
Speaker 1: my signature, and I'm like, oh, no, I'm not in
Speaker 1: the movie, Like I don't really plus I've all I
Speaker 1: was also told never give out your signature because a
Speaker 1: lot of it is like fraudulent and they just try
Speaker 1: to get your signature to like get you know, to
Speaker 1: like sign your name on other things so they can
Speaker 1: steal your identity moving forward. Uh. But when I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I'm not in the movie, Oh I don't
Speaker 1: you know, and that like two paparazzi people came up
Speaker 1: and started like taking pictures in my face as I
Speaker 1: was like walking behind the carpet about to go into
Speaker 1: the theater, and I was like, holy crap, I feel
Speaker 1: like Tom Cruise right now. I was like, like the
Speaker 1: closet moment of my life. And then I was sure,
Speaker 1: you look just like him too. I did not, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but that's not bad because he's like five seven, you know,
Speaker 1: poor guy, Well you have you got the high thing
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, just like the facial in the hair
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. But um, Jared, I
Speaker 1: think it's about time for us to take a quick
Speaker 1: break and introduce our guests. Coming up after this quick
Speaker 1: break Amanda Jenkins, Mark Hill Smith, HBO max Is Twelve
Speaker 1: Dates of Christmas, Stick through the Break, will be back
Speaker 1: all right, welcome back to help I suck at dating.
Speaker 1: Like we teased before the break, we have two very
Speaker 1: special guests are joining us right now from HBO max
Speaker 1: Is brand new uh well, not brand new for a
Speaker 1: second season, but brand new season Twelve Dates of Christmas,
Speaker 1: which returns Thursday, November twenty five. Once again, that is
Speaker 1: on HBO max. It is Amanda Grace Jenkings and Mark
Speaker 1: hill Smith, Mark Hellen Amanda, thanks so much for joining
Speaker 1: us today. How are you doing well. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having us on your podcast. This is really exciting. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Twelve Dates of Christmas help I suck at
Speaker 1: dating really go hand in hand. I feel it really is.
Speaker 1: So Amanda, tell us a little bit about the second
Speaker 1: season of Twelve Dates of Christmas. Let's see, how do
Speaker 1: I narrow it down a little bit? Um, Well, it uh,
Speaker 1: as you guys know, there's three leads, So that was
Speaker 1: a little bit different than um, we've seen in the
Speaker 1: past with a lot of reality shows. And UM, I
Speaker 1: actually really love that. When I watched the first season,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, like I feel like that would
Speaker 1: be nice to have, um, to have just kind of
Speaker 1: like friends and partners in a way going through the
Speaker 1: same experience as you and people to kind of like
Speaker 1: bouncings off of, and um you're not like completely alone
Speaker 1: and and kind of just relying on just yourself and
Speaker 1: and um with all the attention on you. So that
Speaker 1: kind of drew me in a little more. Well, I've
Speaker 1: got a question for you guys. So season one, it
Speaker 1: was there was a game mail lead, right, and then
Speaker 1: two straight leads, and then this season what is it?
Speaker 1: Is there three leads again this season or is it
Speaker 1: just you too? There are three? There's Danny I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why he's not here, but then there's
Speaker 1: Amanda and then myself. Nice, okay, cool? Why well, Jared,
Speaker 1: why did we not get all three of them? From
Speaker 1: the time? Obviously we're working on a budget, Dean, you know,
Speaker 1: there's only so much we could be doing about these things.
Speaker 1: So Marquelle, what was your experience like well, filming Twelve
Speaker 1: Days of Christmas? I had a great experience. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: they're ups and downs as with anything, but I think
Speaker 1: overall it was a very exciting time. I had never
Speaker 1: done anything like this before. Um it was my first
Speaker 1: time being like professionally on camera, So this was really
Speaker 1: exciting after, you know, after the nerves wore off, it
Speaker 1: was really exciting. Well, and it's not just that it's
Speaker 1: not that you're just on camera, right, you're kind of
Speaker 1: one of the central focuses of the entire and then
Speaker 1: you're also dating on camera, which was like because you
Speaker 1: know that feeling when you go to a restaurant and
Speaker 1: you're sitting next to a table and you're like wondering
Speaker 1: can the next table hear you? But it's like, you
Speaker 1: can't really do this now because it's a room full
Speaker 1: of cameras and they're all watching you, like get to
Speaker 1: know somebody on camera, they can definitely hear you. How
Speaker 1: did you guys handle that kind of like those those nerves,
Speaker 1: because I fully agree with you, it's one thing to
Speaker 1: be vulnerable and open up to someone, and then it's
Speaker 1: a whole other thing for there to be cameras around
Speaker 1: and kind of shoved in your face. So how did
Speaker 1: you guys deal with that? I don't want to say pressure,
Speaker 1: but with that kind of like stress, I guess. I
Speaker 1: mean I was very much of the mindset of just
Speaker 1: like you know what, we know, why we're here, let's
Speaker 1: just do it, like, you know, getting over the nerves.
Speaker 1: Like of course, I won't say I won't say that
Speaker 1: it was comfortable at the beginning, but after a certain
Speaker 1: point it was like, Okay, why am I nervous? I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm doing this, Like let's ask the hard questions.
Speaker 1: That's like really good in there, and just like okus,
Speaker 1: so Amanda. Yeah. Obviously the show has not aired yet,
Speaker 1: but in the preview they talk about or they mentioned
Speaker 1: that you've been in kind of some toxic relationships in
Speaker 1: the past. Can you just give us like an overview
Speaker 1: of like what some of those relationships were like, or
Speaker 1: you're learning experience through them and what you've learned coming
Speaker 1: out of bad relationships and when you're hoping what you're
Speaker 1: hoping for in a future relationship. Yeah, definitely. UM. So
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, I feel like it took
Speaker 1: a long time to to learn about myself and UM
Speaker 1: kind of UM get a little bit more of UM
Speaker 1: just the self awareness of some of the ways I
Speaker 1: was moving through the world and some of the types
Speaker 1: of people I was attracting, and UM, I'm someone that
Speaker 1: UM like just kind of because of some of the
Speaker 1: things in my in my background that I hadn't processed too.
Speaker 1: It's like I feel like I was doing a lot
Speaker 1: of UM, I guess like trauma bonding and and finding
Speaker 1: these like really passionate it um and sometimes really exciting relationships,
Speaker 1: but they weren't necessarily healthy. Um. And and then it
Speaker 1: obviously took me a long time to really learn a
Speaker 1: lot about myself too, because I only came out about
Speaker 1: three years ago. UM, and I'm in my threeties. So
Speaker 1: um it. I just think it took a really long
Speaker 1: time to to just truly get to know myself and
Speaker 1: um and then start to explore that. And then once
Speaker 1: I came out and that was a whole new world
Speaker 1: to relearn all about myself again and um kind of
Speaker 1: go with the ups and downs of that. Um. So
Speaker 1: it's been a long journey for me. I feel like
Speaker 1: and and now I'm I feel like I'm in this
Speaker 1: space where I know a lot more of what I
Speaker 1: want and what I don't want. And I think that
Speaker 1: because of that, it puts me more in the position
Speaker 1: to be ready for a relationship because of just a
Speaker 1: lot of the work that I've done within my own
Speaker 1: personal life and the time that I've been single. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think you gotta nail it on the head.
Speaker 1: I think Jared and I've talked about this in the
Speaker 1: past on the on this podcast. Sometimes you have like
Speaker 1: these trauma bonded relationships where you know they give you
Speaker 1: certain types of feelings and you think they're good feelings,
Speaker 1: but in the relationship isn't necessarily like the healthiest relationship. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that just comes with
Speaker 1: time and experience, right, So like as you go on,
Speaker 1: you keep dating and you figure all that stuff out.
Speaker 1: So it's good that you, I guess I've been able
Speaker 1: to identify that. But then through the show, for what
Speaker 1: this is a question for both of you guys, was
Speaker 1: there anything that you learned through the filming of the
Speaker 1: show about yourselves that you didn't know before? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: feel like for me, I I I did learn that,
Speaker 1: UM that I do like to take my time, uh
Speaker 1: and really get to know someone. And it's very challenging
Speaker 1: on a show like this when you have a lot
Speaker 1: of dates coming through really quickly and you've got to
Speaker 1: make fast decisions. Um. And I think because I'm I
Speaker 1: think I'm more hesitant, um because of my past experiences.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to make sure I make the
Speaker 1: right destiny jan and I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing for for me and the
Speaker 1: people around me and people and bringing my life. It's like,
Speaker 1: I I kind of like take on a lot of
Speaker 1: that pressure and I found that that was really challenging
Speaker 1: for me. How about you, Marco, Yeah, I definitely learned that.
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm a libra. I'm not like a huge astrologist. Um.
Speaker 1: But we get the reputation for being very indecisive, and
Speaker 1: I learned that I'm very direct, but I also sort
Speaker 1: of like catered to, like not hurt people's feelings. And
Speaker 1: I learned through this process that I can be more
Speaker 1: direct when I like set an intention to be more direct.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I'm right there with you. You should talk
Speaker 1: to my wife about that. She tells me, She's like,
Speaker 1: what do you want? Tell me what you want, and
Speaker 1: then I will do everything to try to make that happen.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, you know, I like always beat
Speaker 1: around the bush. It's definitely to Mark L I definitely
Speaker 1: relate with you on that one. My yeah. Um So Marquel,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you a little bit as well. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, what are some of the things going into
Speaker 1: this process that you were looking for in a partner? Um? So,
Speaker 1: I think you know you can see from the trailer, Um,
Speaker 1: I framed it as I'm looking for that same feeling
Speaker 1: that I had with my excent. I can kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, myself and Amanda's shoes. Actually was just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, the fieries, the passion, the the excitement that
Speaker 1: you get at the beginning doesn't. It isn't necessarily indicative
Speaker 1: of what a healthy relationship could be. Um, so you know,
Speaker 1: just really so, And that was my first relationship, That
Speaker 1: was my first official Like how long were you guys?
Speaker 1: How long did you guys date for? We dated for
Speaker 1: six months? Okay? And then how long before the show
Speaker 1: did you break up? We broke up and July and
Speaker 1: we started filming, so about eight months okay. Because a
Speaker 1: lot of people will ask, you know, when do I
Speaker 1: know I'm ready to start dating again or possibly jump
Speaker 1: into a relationship, So when did you know? When did
Speaker 1: you feel like this was your time to start going
Speaker 1: back into the dating pool? Um. I don't think that
Speaker 1: there was like a distinct moment that I knew, but
Speaker 1: I it took me a while too, not a while,
Speaker 1: but it took me some time to get over it, obviously,
Speaker 1: And it was just like a process of you know,
Speaker 1: grieving the relationship, reading the loss of it, of this
Speaker 1: person that I I was spending so much time with.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know, I just started like going
Speaker 1: on the apps, going out with people again and just
Speaker 1: realizing like, okay, am I ready? Am I not? I
Speaker 1: remember going on one day with somebody like before I
Speaker 1: went on the show, and I was like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready, and because I just I just like completely
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Yeah, have you have you there? You guys
Speaker 1: been in touch with any of your ex is before
Speaker 1: the airing of the show to kind of like let
Speaker 1: them know what they're getting themselves into all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff or no, no, no, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of people that find out a lot about me
Speaker 1: from this show coming out. That was one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest things for me in my experience was having x
Speaker 1: IS I guess see me on TV and then reach
Speaker 1: out And it's always funny to see just kind of
Speaker 1: like the disparities between certain people that you used to
Speaker 1: be in your life and what they would say. But um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that's it's it's interesting. Being vulnerable
Speaker 1: is one thing. Being vulnerable on television is something completely different. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, good to see you guys. Hopefully there's not.
Speaker 1: I don't expect there to be any negative backlash specifically
Speaker 1: from the x IS, but usually it's coming from a
Speaker 1: jealous place. I would say, yeah, in terms of an
Speaker 1: x to speak on that, it is it's not even
Speaker 1: about the negative aspect. It's more so you know, you
Speaker 1: don't think about an X watching you date on TV
Speaker 1: when you're going through this journey. Not to like scare
Speaker 1: you guys, but it is weird. I can attest to
Speaker 1: dean Um that, you know, I I had a very
Speaker 1: significant X and it was just weird for her to
Speaker 1: like see these intimate moments that she's had with me
Speaker 1: being played out on television. So it's definitely it's a
Speaker 1: weird experience. Yeah, I do think it's weird when you
Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, you never think like you never think, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: one day my ex is gonna be dating on television.
Speaker 1: You just that that thought never never crossed my mind.
Speaker 1: So shout out to all the exes out there, see
Speaker 1: you guys. The show premiers on what is it? Novembery Thursday,
Speaker 1: right Thanksgiving? Actually funny enough? Can you guys before we
Speaker 1: get let you get out of here. Can you guys
Speaker 1: tease anything for us from the viewers perspective? What can
Speaker 1: we expect to see just from your guys experiences? Are
Speaker 1: you engaged? Okay? So what I will say, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, following my story and knowing what I've gone through,
Speaker 1: obviously I think it's kind of gonna be I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna expect you know, what's going to happen
Speaker 1: with me here? Okay, all right, so there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some twists and turns. Okay, can appreciate that it's turns
Speaker 1: ninety degrees, that's right there. I will say that there
Speaker 1: is a plentiful amount of drama. Um, which that's always
Speaker 1: fun to watch, so um and um. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to kind of keep everyone hanging on on how everything
Speaker 1: plays out in the end. We're gonna have to have
Speaker 1: you both back after the show airs so we can
Speaker 1: actually talk about what happened, so we can get in Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you guys had a chance to see any episodes yet?
Speaker 1: We are on the same place as everybody else, Right,
Speaker 1: It's always such a fair You like want to text
Speaker 1: your friends and tell them to tune in, but then
Speaker 1: in the back of your head you're like, well, wait,
Speaker 1: what if they see something that they're not supposed to.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely feeling both about that. It's fun though, enjoy
Speaker 1: it like wedding, and enjoy it. It's you know, not
Speaker 1: many times you get to six. Did you guys know
Speaker 1: each other? While the show was filming, did you did
Speaker 1: you guys have the storylines cross paths at all? Maybe? Oh,
Speaker 1: all right, maybe that's one of the TWI I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen it yet. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: you were there, wasn't I wasn't in all the places
Speaker 1: at all the time, So fair point. Okay, okay, Well
Speaker 1: I see, I see what you're doing your planet well
Speaker 1: close to the chest. I gotta I gotta respect that
Speaker 1: you guys. Thank you so much for joining us. For
Speaker 1: the listeners that obviously want to tune into the show,
Speaker 1: It's on HBO Max twelve Dates of Christmas, premiering Thursday, November. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll be tuning in. I'm excited to watch you guys. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then I'm sure you guys are gonna be like
Speaker 1: posting along and on Instagram and all that kind of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: so where it? Could we fund? On Instagram? My Instagram
Speaker 1: is Amanda Grace Jenkins, And yes, I'm definitely posting so
Speaker 1: you get some behind the scenes stuff. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: at Dr marktel on Instagram. Alright, Dr Mark Hell, I
Speaker 1: gotta love it. Well, you guys, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us. We're so excited to tune in next
Speaker 1: Thursday and uh, I can't wait to see more. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having us. What's going on? Everyone? Welcome back to
Speaker 1: help I Suck at Dating And this week we have
Speaker 1: a couple of emails. Um, I don't know I'm talking
Speaker 1: so weird, but I just want to go ahead and say,
Speaker 1: email us please, I Sucker Dating at iHeart media dot com.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually I keep making mental reminders to myself
Speaker 1: to send emails from an anonymous account for this podcast,
Speaker 1: but I always forget. So what would do you want
Speaker 1: to send? Oh? No, I would just make up some
Speaker 1: incredibly ridiculous thing. Come on, we need something like from
Speaker 1: your personal life you and Klin. Just send it an
Speaker 1: anonymous you know what you should do? All right, here's
Speaker 1: something that you need to do over the next let's
Speaker 1: say before two, so you've got a month and a half.
Speaker 1: I need you to send in an email as anonymous.
Speaker 1: But it's an actual question about yours and Klin's relationship,
Speaker 1: and we have to guess live on the podcast if
Speaker 1: we think it's from you. Okay, Yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: We'll just play this game from now on until the
Speaker 1: end of two. Anytime an anonymous email rolls in. You
Speaker 1: guys will have to decide whether or not you think
Speaker 1: it's from me. You know, it's frustrating, Mark, what's up?
Speaker 1: Dean's not gonna do this? You're right because this is
Speaker 1: kind of Dean's thing. He talks about stuff but never
Speaker 1: does it. That's why Carolin is gonna have to propose. Yes, Um, Mark,
Speaker 1: I feel like you know me a little too well.
Speaker 1: If you're down good by the way, I'm happy to
Speaker 1: be here this week. Eastern's here, Jared's here, Hanna is here,
Speaker 1: and the reason we're all here because we heard last
Speaker 1: week episode, so we're all hands on deck this week. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really nice to you guys. Um, if you haven't
Speaker 1: listened to last week's episode, you didn't miss much. But
Speaker 1: it was just me by myself. Hannah was obviously there
Speaker 1: as well a little bit. Riley was there, but I
Speaker 1: didn't have Jared, I didn't have Mark, I didn't have Easton,
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, you three are the clear backbone
Speaker 1: of this podcast. If it just took me missing a
Speaker 1: podcast to get everybody else here fully loaded, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start missing more weeks. Let's do this. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like when everybody's here. It really does feel like
Speaker 1: we're being spoiled when we get everyone like this, all right,
Speaker 1: this is from Emily. This is not anonymous. We will
Speaker 1: not be playing the game. This is from Emily, and
Speaker 1: I think this is something a lot of people are
Speaker 1: going through this time of year. Emily says, Thanksgiving us
Speaker 1: next week, and I'm starting to get stressed. There's so
Speaker 1: much pressure with relationships around the holidays. I've been seeing
Speaker 1: this guy for about five months now, and my mom
Speaker 1: is begging to meet him. Last week, I was in
Speaker 1: the car with him talking to my mom on speaker
Speaker 1: phone and he said she wants to meet him whatever.
Speaker 1: Since then, he keeps asking when am I going to
Speaker 1: meet your family. I'm afraid if I introduce him to
Speaker 1: my family around the holidays, it's going to feel more
Speaker 1: serious and speed things up between us. I'm super happy
Speaker 1: at the pace we're moving and where we currently stand,
Speaker 1: but also I don't want him to think I don't
Speaker 1: care about him by not introducing him. Yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 1: kind of like make your Break season in these weird,
Speaker 1: uh purgatory relationships where you're dating but you're not boyfriend, girlfriend,
Speaker 1: you don't know if it's gonna go long term or not,
Speaker 1: so you don't want to introduce him to the family. UM.
Speaker 1: I think we should all answer this first and foremost,
Speaker 1: So Eastern Hannah, Mark, get your get your answers ready,
Speaker 1: but Dean, get your thinking, get your thinking caps on. UM.
Speaker 1: In my experience, if you like the person enough and
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be with him for a while,
Speaker 1: why not just bring him over to meet the family,
Speaker 1: you know, like, if you if you like him enough
Speaker 1: to kind of continue dating him as it seems like
Speaker 1: you have been, just bring him in and meet the family.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times the family can kind of
Speaker 1: help you make decisions too. It's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: might not want to say it, but like your parents
Speaker 1: and your siblings definitely a factor into your decision making
Speaker 1: when it comes to dating. So I don't think it's
Speaker 1: never I don't think it's ever really a bad thing
Speaker 1: to bring them into your household for the holidays if
Speaker 1: you actually see it lasting longer than more than just like, mom,
Speaker 1: come on, it's been five months. I get that you
Speaker 1: don't want to make the relationships speed up, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's the holidays he's gonna be around
Speaker 1: the family at some point. You might as will introduce
Speaker 1: him now see if they get along. I mean, hell,
Speaker 1: the Bachelor introduces them to their family like three weeks in,
Speaker 1: so let's five months is plenty of time. You're not
Speaker 1: speeding anything up. Meet mom. Five months there is a
Speaker 1: good amount of time to be a mom. I think
Speaker 1: that's normal, and I also think, unfortunately, Emily, I don't
Speaker 1: think you have a choice here. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can just kind of hide him throughout the holidays. I
Speaker 1: think you've got to bring him to mom, whether you
Speaker 1: want to or not. I know he's in the minor
Speaker 1: leagues right now, and that automatically puts him in the
Speaker 1: major leagues, and you may not want him in the
Speaker 1: major leagues. I think everyone will get back to normal though,
Speaker 1: once the new year comes around, and then you can
Speaker 1: really decide if this is worth happening or not. I'm
Speaker 1: concerned about the future of this relationship because you don't
Speaker 1: seem excited about him meeting your parents. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how if a year from now you're gonna have
Speaker 1: the same problem. But I don't think you have a choice.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it. Yeah, Emily is either embarrassed by
Speaker 1: the family or embarrassed by the boyfriend. It's one of
Speaker 1: the other. Right now, I mean, what's the worst that
Speaker 1: will happen if you introduce him to the parents. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna start a business with your uncle Bob? You know, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen with everyone from now on,
Speaker 1: how's your boyfriend? How's your boyfriend? Talked about the one
Speaker 1: with your boyfriend? It's gonna be a lot of that
Speaker 1: from mom and dad and brothers and sisters. You know.
Speaker 1: I brought Allison to my grandparents house for the holidays
Speaker 1: after we've been dating for like seven months or something,
Speaker 1: and everything. Obviously everything was fine, we got married, But
Speaker 1: there's ma from that event where we're all taking like pictures,
Speaker 1: and at one point my aunt asked Allison, She's like,
Speaker 1: could you take one of everybody? Like I think she
Speaker 1: was like, we don't want if they break up in
Speaker 1: six months. Yes, they're not family yet, Alison. That's the
Speaker 1: funny thing that Alison will never forget. But at that
Speaker 1: funny moment, now so Eastern, You're you're in the camp
Speaker 1: of inviting him to Thanksgiving. Yeah, enviting Thanksgiving I say,
Speaker 1: if you've been dating someone for two weeks, you should
Speaker 1: invite them to Thanksgiving. I think that it's the more
Speaker 1: the merrier, just invite him. I gotta say too, as
Speaker 1: as we age, like as we become adults, um, getting
Speaker 1: invited to things like Thanksgiving, especially for people, uh that
Speaker 1: you know, don't have very close family ties, like myself,
Speaker 1: it's always so nice. It's always so nice to like
Speaker 1: have an outlet just to be like, yeah, I'd love
Speaker 1: to come on, you know, over to Thanksgiving. How anything
Speaker 1: else planned? So maybe like hopefully this guy has like
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with his family planned. That way you can invite him.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can say he's gonna go to Thanksgiving with
Speaker 1: his family instead, but like, at least that way, you
Speaker 1: know he was invited, he knows he was invited, and
Speaker 1: even if he didn't have a place to go, then
Speaker 1: you're still kind of, you know, taking him under your
Speaker 1: wing and bringing him over. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: good thing all around. We have yet to hear from
Speaker 1: the smartest person in the room, Hannah, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, I'm inviting my boyfriend to Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: this year for the first time. But we've been together
Speaker 1: for four years, but he's been around my family around
Speaker 1: the holidays, but not actually on the day. But I
Speaker 1: think that she could bring him around around the holidays.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do agree that bringing him around
Speaker 1: on the actual day, like on Thanksgiving or on Christmas. Serious, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a big step. Four years. How did you avoid
Speaker 1: like last year? I guess last year was COVID, So
Speaker 1: maybe we threw a wrench in there. But even two
Speaker 1: years ago, you guys were dating for two years and
Speaker 1: he's still incoming for the holidays. Well, I mean he
Speaker 1: would come around the time, but on the actual day,
Speaker 1: he would want to be with this family. I would
Speaker 1: want to be with my family. And we're still young.
Speaker 1: But now I feel like we're at the age where
Speaker 1: he's living where my family lives up in Norclso just
Speaker 1: makes more sense. Yeah, now you're old, it makes more sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I agree with what Dean said. I think getting
Speaker 1: the family's opinion and having them meet him could kind
Speaker 1: of be insightful and could help guide her if I
Speaker 1: don't know if this actually is going to work out
Speaker 1: or not. It's also good market research, you know, because
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be like, oh, you're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. He's so funny, he's great. He was so
Speaker 1: helpfully helped clean up after dinner, Like it's good to
Speaker 1: kind of see how he interact with these people focus group. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I gotta say too. I have always firmly I've always
Speaker 1: firmly believed that I never needed my family's approval with
Speaker 1: the person I was dating. That like, if I like someone,
Speaker 1: I liked him and I didn't care what they said. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think I told the story already on this
Speaker 1: podcast before last time, I brought Klein. Uh, well, I
Speaker 1: brought Kaylin and my brothers many times, my oldest brother,
Speaker 1: the person I look up to more even more than Mark,
Speaker 1: if you can believe that or not. Um. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know I love the guy really really quite a bit. Uh.
Speaker 1: He pulled me aside and he's like, you know what, Team,
Speaker 1: I feel like you finally got it right with Klein,
Speaker 1: and I'm really proud of you. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I never realized how much I needed to
Speaker 1: hear that from you before, but it did. It makes
Speaker 1: a difference. So to get your family's approval on someone
Speaker 1: is it's I think it's pretty important. That's a sweet story.
Speaker 1: That is a sweet story. So the second emails from
Speaker 1: Capri and Market don't many stuff undershows. But I'm curious
Speaker 1: because it's four questions. Could we do a speed round
Speaker 1: where all of this answer really quickly? Okay, fine, here
Speaker 1: we go, Caprice says, first question, what was your first
Speaker 1: impression about your partner? She cries a lot, Yeah, dramatic
Speaker 1: giant asked you better be talking about Alison. I am okay, eyes,
Speaker 1: eyes and face in general. Mm hmmm nice. Huh, athlete,
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, Okay. Have you started to do
Speaker 1: something because of each other's influence? Uh? I've I've showered
Speaker 1: more often because of her. Thank God for Klein, Thank
Speaker 1: you Wolf Jared. I would say I've definitely um been more.
Speaker 1: I've been able to articulate more directly what I want
Speaker 1: in life. I mean, it's been twenty four years. It's
Speaker 1: a long list, but I'll say I've become a dog
Speaker 1: lover because I never had pets growing up. You are
Speaker 1: a dog lover before your wife, I we didn't have any.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any paths of dogs, cats, didn't have anything.
Speaker 1: I ever lived with a dog until my wife. Well,
Speaker 1: at least you've come to the right side now, Thank you, Jared.
Speaker 1: I mean I have a long list too, but the
Speaker 1: two that come to mine are drinking more water and
Speaker 1: we're in sunscreen. Oh, sunscreen. Nice. I haven't come around
Speaker 1: the sunscreen thing yet, but maybe one day mine would
Speaker 1: be to be better about managing my money. Okay. Will
Speaker 1: you say sorry to your partner even if it's not
Speaker 1: your fault? Yes, all the time I do it. It's
Speaker 1: sarcastically pretty often. Um does that count? This is so
Speaker 1: deem to dig it as you. I have a hard enough.
Speaker 1: I had a hard I have a hard enough time
Speaker 1: saying sorry when it actually is something I'm sorry for.
Speaker 1: So if it's not my fault, I uh, you're a
Speaker 1: hard press to get me to say sorry if it's
Speaker 1: not my fault. Of course. Also, whatever brings peace sooner
Speaker 1: I will do thousand it. Yeah. I say when it's
Speaker 1: not my fault almost exclusively, and my answer is absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Yeah. Nice. Me and Hannah we got
Speaker 1: this one. I mean, maybe eventually we'll come around to
Speaker 1: you guys way of thinking. But if it's not your fault,
Speaker 1: I apologize. Dean and Hannah picked they chose violence this morning.
Speaker 1: And finally, can you ask, what is something you're looking
Speaker 1: forward to with your partner having a kid? Good one?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's I mean, that's just an obvious one.
Speaker 1: Um something I look forward to with my answer, No,
Speaker 1: I know, but it's just there's obvious answers and there's
Speaker 1: um less. Obviously I want that US Weekly headline. I'll
Speaker 1: be the inside source, all right, Yeah, inside source close
Speaker 1: to Dean. Um. Something I'm excited to do with my partner,
Speaker 1: just you know, more travel. I guess we're going to
Speaker 1: South Africa with each other in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: That's something I'm looking for. That's a good one. Next
Speaker 1: year is our twenties wedding anniversary. In our anniversary have
Speaker 1: been together, we're planning a trip and looks like we'rehit
Speaker 1: your wage yard. We're looking at um Cape Cod Martha's vineyard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are coming during the summer right, yeah, next
Speaker 1: to August. Oh sweet dude, let me know, Well we'll
Speaker 1: have a be around the cape. Excellent. I'm I don't
Speaker 1: know nothing specific. I'm just looking forward to experiencing more
Speaker 1: life with her everything, seeing new places, doing new things,
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know, just Everything I do with
Speaker 1: Allison is fantastic, So I'm looking forward to doing more
Speaker 1: of that. I liked it before Hunt answers. I just
Speaker 1: want to point out eastn Um. Your time and spent
Speaker 1: in Nashville for Ben in uh Chess's wedding very impressive.
Speaker 1: You you were there for one a couple of days.
Speaker 1: You had every museum, every you know, you crossed everything
Speaker 1: off your list. It was fun to watch you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys are great travelers. I feel like I would
Speaker 1: want you to write an itinerary for me for the
Speaker 1: next time I go somewhere. We when we go someplace,
Speaker 1: we do it all and we do and she does
Speaker 1: all the books that I want to say. It's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It's great. I was impressed. Thank you. UM. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to going to New York whichever for jingle Ball.
Speaker 1: Ever been to New York before and it's been his dream?
Speaker 1: Wait isn't jaball next week or something like that? Um
Speaker 1: l A is the first is December three, but New
Speaker 1: York is the week after, so coming up. We used
Speaker 1: to go every year for Jingleball New York and it's
Speaker 1: just the best time of the year to be there.
Speaker 1: It's so great. I love going to see the tree.
Speaker 1: It's really that's awesome. It's help I Second Dating. Not
Speaker 1: allowed to go to jingle Ball this year, and yet
Speaker 1: I've got that invite. Yeah, I guess maybe I'll just
Speaker 1: keep my eyes peeled on my email. I'm sure back
Speaker 1: in you will be there scrubbing it will be there.
Speaker 1: Those Yeah, they're probably gonna be freaking hosting the event anyway.
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it. For this week's episode of Help
Speaker 1: I Suck at Dating, Mark Easton Hanna, thank you guys
Speaker 1: so much for chiming in and helping us answer these questions.
Speaker 1: Keep emailing us I Second Dating at iHeart media dot com.
Speaker 1: Big thank you, of course to Marquel An Amanda. Be
Speaker 1: sure to watch HBO max Is Twelve Dates of Christmas Thursday,
Speaker 1: November twenty premieres. Um, thanks for Jared for us sticking
Speaker 1: around and coming to host this podcast with me this week.
Speaker 1: I would say anytime, but I've missed a couple of podcasts,
Speaker 1: so hopefully next week totally totally understandable. Man, You've got
Speaker 1: a lot going on. Um, but yeah, maybe next week
Speaker 1: where maybe we suck just a little bit less. Follow
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