1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 1: Real talk. A lot of people are sitting on millions 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: of dollars right now if they would just sell their 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: grandma's house. Yeah, but what about the sentimental value attached? 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Which one weighs more the one that pays more bills 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: the coins m cash out. Y'all. Hey, I'm Cadine and 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: we're the Ellises. You may know us from posting funny 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: videos with our boys and reading each other publicly as 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: a form of therapy. Wait, I'll make you need therby 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: most days. Wow. And one more important thing to mention, 10 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: we're married. We are. We created this podcast to open 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: dialogue about some of life's most taboo topics, things most 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: folks don't want to talk about. Do the lens of 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: them on len You're married couple. Dead adds is the 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: term that we say every day. So when we say 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: dead ass, we're actually saying facts, the truth, the whole truth, 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth. We're about to take pillows 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: off to our whole new level. Dead ass starts right now. 18 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you all back to two thousand and seventeen, No, 19 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen. This is when you and I 20 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: were trying to make the decision of whether or not 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: we were going to move to l A or not. 22 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: And we were working a lot, working a lot, making 23 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: a lot of money at this point in the cash 24 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: coming in from the gym business and doing social media 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: and doing events and things like that, also doing makeup. 26 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: But we needed capital because we were like, listen, if 27 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: we were going to relocate from New York to l A. 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: The gym business at that time was a large part 29 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: of how we made money, so we would need some 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: time to move over. I said, what's the best way 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: for me to get some capital? In two thousand and seven, 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I purchased my grandparents house because my grandparents needed to 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: move from South Carolina to New York. No from they 34 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: need to move from Tennessee to South Carolina. And at 35 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: the time Morristown, Tennessee. It's you know that this was 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: right before the economic crisis. The recession happened in two 37 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, but there weren't a lot of um 38 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: plants and stuff open at that time there so the 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: economy renouncing, no one was purchasing property in the area. 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: So my grandparents were looking to move to South Carolina 41 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: to be closer to their siblings, and it was like 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: all right, well, let's keep the house in the family. 43 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: I was playing in the NFL at the time, so 44 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let me just buy this 45 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: house to work state in the family is gonna be 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: like a family airline. I'll just pay off. I'll pay 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: off the property in the next couple of years, in 48 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the next next couple of contracts, whatever. That was my 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: thought process two thousand and seven. Then two thousand and eight, 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I purchased a home for us to live in because 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: we were living in Michigan and we wanted the tax 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: right off, so we wanted to get a residency in 53 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Michigan rather than having one in New York because the 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: New York Texas was ridiculous. So I own two properties. 55 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: Let's go back to two thousand and eighteen. Now we 56 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: were thinking about moving into l A. How do we 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: get capital? And I was like, well, I own two 58 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: properties that have equity. So at first it was like, 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: do I sell my grandparents house to get the equity 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: out so I could have a little space to move 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: or do a hold on to it so it could 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: be a family heirloom. And I was like, no, one 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: is going to go back to Morristown. Tennessee to live there, right, 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I was paying all of the times that there was 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: no tenants in there. I was paying the mortgage I 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: was paying for when the boiler had to be fixed, 67 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I think, I'm a 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: cashing on this equity, used that to put in my banks, 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: and then when we relocated, at least I had a 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: couple of months to make sure that I can get 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: my feet underneath me. And that's exactly what can I did. 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: We sold both properties. We had a good amount of equity, 73 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: and when we made that jump to l A, we 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: knew we were sitting on at least eight months of rent, 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: so that it was like, yo, I got eight months 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: to figure out how I'm going to duplicate that revenue 77 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: that I lost in the gym business in New York, 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: and we were gonna make it work. It was all 79 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: worth it because our dreams were in l A, and 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: the minute we moved to l A, our whole life changed. 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: So imagine if I never sold my grandparents house to 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: move to l A, we'd probably still be in another department. 83 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: Nothing like God's perfect timing. Dead ass doom, doom, doom, doom, 84 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: doom Do do do do do Do do doom? A room 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: is still a room even nothing there but glue, and 86 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: the house is not at home when there's no one 87 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: there to do my baby, to hold your time, and 88 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: no one to kiss good not Oh yeah, that's definitely 89 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: not my octave. But hey, we made the work, you'll 90 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: get it. The house is not at home. I don't 91 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: think there's an octave that can hold Luther that he 92 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: did his own He did his own thing. But I 93 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: want to know are you gonna be? Are you gonna be? 94 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Said you're gonna be in love? Women? Where? Where? Well? Where? 95 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: That's my favorite part. I love that feeling love recipes, Luther. 96 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: Let me tell you listen, I think we should take 97 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: a break, let me go see what my other favorite 98 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: Luca songs are in here, come back, and then we'll 99 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: jump into selling grandma's house. All right, so we're back. 100 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's just kind of walk people. Let's unpack 101 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: this whole process here. That's a debate. I think a 102 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: lot of families have. You know, you're sitting on this 103 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: property that has been in the family for years, um 104 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: that you know grandma, great grandma, grandpa. They worked really, 105 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: really hard, extreme to obtain. So so there was there 106 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: was a lot that went into this story process. And 107 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of my family history with property that 108 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: I want to kind of unpack. Right first and foremost, 109 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: my family comes from a line of Southern blacks who 110 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: owned property. My grandmother's father was he was a sharecropper 111 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: and he was one of the few blacks. He was 112 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: black and um Native American. I believe this is Nani Nana's. 113 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: His mom and dad are from um Indigenous people descent. 114 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the descended from the indigenous people. And 115 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: what people don't know is that the indigenous people had 116 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: property in America, but they also owned slaves. So my 117 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: grandmother and grandfather from our Orangeburg, South Carolina. And if 118 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: you look at my grandmother's family, they're really really fair 119 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: skinned people, right, some of them are really really fair 120 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: skinned people. Some have that like brownish olive complexion is 121 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: because of the indigenous people's side, and I think some 122 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Germans in there. But her family came from money. Her 123 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: dad drove a Cadillac, he owned property, he had sure, 124 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: he was a share cropper, you know. And I remember 125 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: going down south and seeing the big house they used 126 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: to call the Big house. That was grand Day's house. 127 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: That was the big house. And when we had family 128 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: and unions, we'd over go to the Big House and 129 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: to be all of the family would be there, all 130 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: the cousins would sleep, they're all way up until the attic. 131 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: So for me, having a property that the family can 132 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: come by and we could all do like family unions 133 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: and stuff always meant a lot to me. Remember when 134 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: you went to my family, my my grandparents fifty at 135 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: the anniversary and we all stayed in that house, equipped 136 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: with the fried chicken legs wrapped in the bread, all 137 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: the snacks, the sweet tea shoutout, shout out to Orangebrook, 138 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina. But um, so it was always ingrained in 139 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: me to own property. You know. My grandfather, my grandmother's husband, 140 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: my grandfather, he owned property, so he and his is 141 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: a funny story too, my parents stayed in the house 142 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: when Troy Avenue and Flatbush. My grandfather had bought the 143 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: property for twenty dollars and my my dad was still 144 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: living here in Brooklyn, and he was just like, hey, Troy, 145 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: you know you want to stay in this house. You know, 146 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: there was a mortgage on it was like two hundred 147 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: dollars at the time. Right, my father asked my mom, 148 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: I remember this story, Hey, Karen, you want to stay here? 149 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: It was like a two family house, had a bunch 150 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: of rooms stuff like. She's like, no, it's too big. 151 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to stay there. So my father like 152 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of like kind of like me and you with 153 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: the house right in the group. So they went and 154 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: stayed in an apartment in Flatbush and let my grandfather 155 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: sell the house. He sold the house and then bought 156 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the house in Tennessee. Those houses on Troy Avening are 157 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: now worth seven figures. Just I just want to put 158 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: that out there. A brick to family house in Flatbush 159 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: from Troy Avenue there was a worth at least a million, 160 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: three million, four right now. But yeah, you dropped the bag, 161 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: had a moment dropped the bag to But I'm gonna 162 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: get to that though. I'm gonna get to I'm gonna 163 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: get to that though. But um so, it was always 164 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: a great to me their own property. So when I 165 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: bought the house in Tennessee, that was the house that 166 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,479 Speaker 1: me and my cousins always went to in the summertime. 167 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: We have family reunions at the house. When my grandparents 168 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: had the at the anniversary. That's the first time you 169 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: ever stayed in the house in Tennessee was that house. 170 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna keep this house 171 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: that I can take my kids to this house and 172 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I can show them where your dad used to stay 173 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: in your grandparents owners and your your your grandparents lived 174 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: here with the only black family in this cold stack 175 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: in Morristown, Tennessee in the seventies, like it was, it 176 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: meant a lot to me. And now we get to 177 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the choices of us to saying what are we gonna 178 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: do to get to l A and me owning the 179 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: house and the house having some equity in it, and 180 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: then buying the house in Michigan. I purchased that home 181 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: because you and I well, I wanted to prove to 182 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: you at the time that there was a future for us. 183 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: And I also wanted to get residency in Michigan because 184 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: the taxes in New York at that time, because I 185 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: was playing in so many different states, was ridiculous. So 186 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: we purchased those house. That goes into the decision could 187 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: deem made and I don't think we ever touched on this. 188 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: When I asked a dean if she wanted to buy 189 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: a house in New York, Oh or she wanted to 190 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: get married and have a big wedding. Part of what 191 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: her decision was to having a big wedding is that 192 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: we already owned the two properties. They weren't the properties 193 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: that we lived in. They were investment properties, but we 194 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: owned two properties. That was my mindset. I get it. 195 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: You're just like, oh, of course you just wanted the 196 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: big wedding just because. And I'm like, well, we have 197 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: two homes. If we needed to, we can tell them 198 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: and buy something else. So I and I and I 199 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: get that. I and I get that. But my thought 200 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: process at the time was to buy a house in 201 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: an area that was pre gentrification so that we could 202 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: get a huge amount of equity. At that time, we 203 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: weren't gonna get that in those other two properties. So 204 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: when we were staying in the apartment and it was 205 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: time for us to make a leap forward, it was like, 206 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: now was the time to use what my grandparents had 207 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: worked so hard for, and that was the equity. And 208 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: here's the way I want you guys to think about it. 209 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I never wanted to sell my grandparents house. I wanted 210 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: to hold on to it, rent it out until I 211 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: was able to just completely afford it and then not 212 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: rent it out and have be a family in Loom 213 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: where we travel and we take the kids and we say, 214 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: you can actually walk in the places that your your 215 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: dad walked when he was a little kid. But also 216 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: it was on an acre and a half of land, 217 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be able to show them ownership, 218 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: like black ownership. That was my ultimate intention. But then 219 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: I started to think a little bit more broadly and say, 220 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: I can hold onto this house and show my kids 221 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: this house, or I can use the equity from this 222 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: house to create a grander life for my kids and 223 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: show them the world. So what's more important being able 224 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: to show them the house or show them the world? 225 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: And you and I chose to show them the world 226 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: because we didn't just sell that house. We also sold 227 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: the house in Michigan, which in my mind, like I said, 228 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: this is my first property that I bought, that was 229 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: this mine, that was ours to live in. I wanted 230 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: to be able to hold onto it to say, hey, boys, 231 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: this is where your dad and mom live. This is 232 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: the first home they bought. But we sold it and 233 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: we kind of put aside all of the you know, 234 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: family heirloom, sentimental value things in order to be able 235 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: to find real value and give them something that they 236 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: didn't have. And it worked out in our favor. You know, 237 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: we had enough equity to put money in the bank 238 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: that said we were gonna last. And this is the 239 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: way I always do my finances. If I'm going to 240 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: make a decision, I'm going to make a decision that 241 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: puts us in the situation that there's not there's no 242 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: stress for k and myself. So when we decided that 243 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: we were going to move to l A, it wasn't 244 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: about just moving, because you hear some of these stories 245 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: where I moved to l A with no nothing but 246 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: change in my pocket, and that uncomfortable feeling made me 247 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: work hard. Right, I'm a hard work anyway. I don't 248 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: want my family to be uncomfortable. So that equity for 249 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: us was to give us at least six to eight 250 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: months of rent so that we could be in California 251 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: and be comfortable. So it's like I almost have a year, 252 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: a whole year to get on my feet to figure 253 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: out that additional revenue. And we could have been uncomfortable 254 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: if we're just you and I but when you're moving 255 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: with children, especially across country, it's like you gotta make 256 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: sure that you had that little bit of cushion rooms. 257 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, So to me, selling the house was a 258 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: way for me to use that equity to to give 259 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: my parents my family a better opportunity moving forward. And 260 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: it worked out. You know, when we moved to l 261 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: a way more opportunities opened up, We made way more 262 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: money and ultimately ended up with us purchasing this home 263 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: that we're living in now. So if you think about it, 264 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: holding onto that heirloom wouldn't have helped us because we've 265 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: just still been renting in New York and paying the 266 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: mortgages on to other properties. Instead, I sold it about 267 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: the equity and move forward. And now where it was atter, 268 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: did your fault get your parents, particularly I guess your 269 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: dad or any of your dad's side of family, They 270 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: were okay once we sold the house, right, there was 271 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: no because sometimes that's a family beef. Is like to 272 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: sell the house and I sell the house, Usually you 273 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: see a split somebody like we should sell it to 274 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: get the benefit of the property and the money. But 275 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: this is typically what this is typically what happens with 276 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: beafs right. People with no money always want to tell 277 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: people who are investing all the money into it how 278 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: they should spend it. I wasn't willing to do that. 279 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: And and the bottom line is, if you're not willing 280 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: to help into the investment of the family, you should 281 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: have no say. And what we do in a lot 282 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: of our families nowadays is we just give people sentimental equity, 283 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: which means it's, oh, because you're the oldest, oh, or 284 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: because you're one of the cousins, you have a say. 285 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: But when all of the finances falls on one person, 286 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: that person has the most say because that person is 287 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: required to making sure that the building is maintained. And 288 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: that's that's what happens that I think is so unfair. 289 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: But my family that we don't operate like that. My 290 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: my aunt's, my uncle's, my my father was just like, 291 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: if it's a burden, is that house is a burden 292 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: for you, you gotta do it for your family. And 293 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: I think that's what's helped my family prosper financially is 294 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: because they don't. No one ever holds someone back for 295 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: their own personal gain. It's like, Okay, if this can 296 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: move us forward, then we all have to be in agreement, 297 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: or if this is a burden to one person in particular, 298 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: we can't allow this entity to be a burden to 299 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: one person while we sit back so that she's willing 300 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: to contribute and find a way to divise a plan 301 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: to make it a better situation or a problem solved. Absolutely, 302 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: And that's one thing I say about my my Well, 303 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: that side of the family is my father's side of 304 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: the family. But my grandfather was big on teaching financial 305 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: acumen well and well and instilling instilling some sort of 306 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: financial acumen into all of his children. So when it 307 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: was time to have these conversations, it went a lot 308 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: smoother than you hear in other families because a lot 309 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: of times there's no one in charge who lays down 310 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: the law about what it's supposed to happen. Most people 311 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: don't have wills, you know. Those people don't have trust, 312 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: so when someone dies unexpectedly not everyone else is left 313 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: scrambling to try to figure things out. My my grandfather, 314 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: God rest his soul, Charles w Ellis, laid things out 315 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: for his four children so they everyone knew what it was. 316 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: There wasn't when he passed away. There was no who 317 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: was getting there it was. He knew what it was 318 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: and they made things clear. Plus he took care of 319 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: his family. He always took care of his kids, even 320 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: in adulthood. So when it was time for me to 321 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: make the decision, all if his children was like, do 322 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: what you have to do for your family, Like, don't 323 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: let what happened in our generation or things that have 324 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: happened trickle down. That's not fair. All of my aunt's 325 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: and uncles are the same way. They don't ever like 326 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna hold this one back because no, you got 327 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: to move forward. My my family would rather go without 328 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: then asked me to hold onto something that wasn't beneficial 329 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: to our family. And your family is the same way. 330 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's another reason why we've been able 331 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: to prosper so much, because we come from families that 332 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: don't have a selfish bone in their body. And I 333 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: think that in large part is why a lot of 334 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: family struggle because because you know, when it's time to 335 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: sell the house, everybody wants their peace, but no one 336 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: was there for the upkeep and maintenance. And that happens 337 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: to a lot of families. That does happened a lot, 338 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: and they had me thinking when you mentioned the will, 339 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like, that's something everyone should have, regardless of age. 340 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: You gotta have that because if not that untimely death 341 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: or those unfortunate circumstances and having to deal with grief alone, 342 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: then you're not dealing with all the extra ship that 343 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: comes along with it. And they're there are difficult. Those 344 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: are difficult conversations to have. When you get to a 345 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: certain age and now all of your friends are in 346 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: this thirties age, we start to talk about different things. Right, 347 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: the conversations have now navigated from um, the hottest check 348 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: and who's winning the game too, how's your son doing 349 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: in sports, how's your daughter doing in sports? Or how's 350 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: your mom and dad dealing with tones? So so now 351 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: these conversations are talking about wills, and these conversations talking 352 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: about you know, parents are all Shimmer's and having those conversations, 353 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: do you have insurance a lot of the people in 354 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: the generation right above us or two generations before us, 355 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: don't have wills in place, don't have insurance. So things 356 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: are happening, and now my my buddies are just like 357 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, their first our generation has been doing really well. 358 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Most of us are the first generation to graduate college 359 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: have high paying six figure jobs. So a lot of 360 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the family comes to my friend group to ask for 361 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: the advice, but then when they try to give the advice, 362 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: it's always met with vitriol, you know. For example, one 363 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: of my buddies had his uncle's house was pretty much 364 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: snatched from underneath them. He had a house in I 365 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: think it was Philadelphia, fully paid off. It was him 366 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: and his sons. His sons weren't doing as well as 367 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: my buddy, and his son's you know, ended up, you know, 368 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: leaving it. But they come stay in the house, but 369 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: they don't contribute at all. And the although were starting 370 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: to go through dementia, and no one was paying the 371 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: water bills, no one was paying the city taxes, and 372 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: they got a letter on the door for eviction, and 373 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: they're like, you can't evictus was our own We own 374 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: our house. The father hadn't paid the water bill or 375 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: the state taxes, and I think it was about three 376 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: years or the city taxes three years. And people are 377 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: going into these areas and buying the deeds because there's 378 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: leans on the property. Someone brought the deed for the 379 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: remaining balance of what they owed in the city taxes 380 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: because there was no mortgage on the house. Since there 381 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: was no mortgage on the house and there was no 382 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: bank to be paid. Now the new person who paid 383 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: for the lean to be removed on the property, so 384 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: they had to go to probate court to fight, which 385 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: costs more money. And when he was telling his cousins 386 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: at the time, like, hey, if you guys are looking 387 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: for capitals, nothing for you to do. You need to 388 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: at least take care of the house if you don't 389 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: want to sell it. But he was telling them like, hey, 390 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: your your dad has hundreds of thousands worth of equity 391 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: in this house that if you want to do better 392 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: for him, even if you sell the home, you put 393 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: him in a home or put him get it, sell 394 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: a home, put him in a place where he can 395 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: get around the clock, nurse care. You guys, invest in 396 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: some things that you know increase your your worth of 397 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: what you can make. But no one wanted to listen 398 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: to him. Now the house it's gone, and now to 399 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: like save us, and he's just like, I've been trying 400 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: to tell you what a lot of people. But when 401 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: he asked me, why didn't you want to sell the house? 402 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: They're like, well, it was dad's house. You know, we 403 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to you know, we didn't want to sell 404 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: the house, I said, But there was no upkeep on 405 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: the house. The house was terrible, the grass was never cut. 406 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Um as he got older, he started to hoard things, 407 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: so it became a hordess house. Had nothing but junk 408 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: in the house. So you let him run the house ragged, 409 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, drive down the property value, let someone come 410 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: get it for next to nothing. Now you walk away 411 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: with nothing thing yep yep. And they, you know a 412 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: lot of them said the same things that it is, like, well, 413 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: we didn't know what we could do with the house. 414 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Which is what we want to talk to you guys 415 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: about today. For sure. Well, the racial wealth gap in 416 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: America is still growing. It's growing wider and wider. In fact, 417 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: some studies show that in thirty years, well for black 418 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: families will be at zero, not at all. Nothing. And 419 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: with this knowledge and a desire to build wealth for 420 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: our children and future generations, which I think is very 421 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: a big focus. I think for our generations millennials um, 422 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: when parents or grandparents pass on and leave their properties behind, 423 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: the decision to keep ourselves maybe confusing and a little 424 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: bit um devices divisive for the families. So it's like, 425 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: do you sell and split the money amongst the living 426 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: or do you keep it and let those family members 427 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: who always seem to be in need live in the house. 428 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, mess up granny's old plastic covered furniture. You 429 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: know she still got the plastic on that joint. Um, 430 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: what are the things that you to really consider before selling? 431 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: So we're going to weigh out the options of selling 432 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: versus keeping. Um, Well, we also have some stats that 433 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: we can get into before we go there, Let's discuss 434 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: why the racial wealth gap is getting larger. Right, most 435 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: people in this country, white Americans who have any bit 436 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: of wealth or generational wealth, majority of them got their 437 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: wealth from land that was passed down during slavery, to 438 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: be honest, right, and during reconstruction. That's where the majority 439 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: of them got their land. When FDR created the New Deal, 440 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: and they decided that they were going to help the 441 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: housing market, right, that's when they created suburbs and they 442 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: gave they told contractors this is the government, the actual 443 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: federal government gave contractors subsidies to build more houses after 444 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: the Great Depression. But those subsidies were given to contractors 445 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: who build houses in white neighborhoods and wouldn't allow black 446 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: people to move into those neighborhoods. So what happens is 447 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: black people, right, we're all pushed into ghettos. Once they 448 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: were pushed into these areas, they were all of these 449 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: black people push in the areas. They discounted the land, 450 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: didn't give them insurance and told them that their property 451 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: wasn't valued as much as white properties. You take that, 452 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: and that was in the nineteen twenties. So a hundred 453 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: years of them devaluing black properties, um not giving blacks insurance, 454 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: on top of burning down black cities that were thriving, 455 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: you get a racial wealth gap because now you have 456 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: white families who are gaining money and gaining access to wealth, 457 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: who can now go out and buy more property and 458 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: more wealth. And as they buy more property, they'll say, well, 459 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: you know what, you can't own it, but you can 460 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: rent it. So now you have a lot more Black 461 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: families who are renting property than owning property because the 462 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: properties that were passed down are given to you know, 463 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: white people give to their you know, white children, and 464 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: black families. Their properties were burnt down or taken or 465 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: they lost them, or they just lived in ghettos from 466 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: the time they got out of reconstruction and we're trying 467 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: to build through where they redline whether they were redlined, 468 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: and the segregate itself. So over a hundred years, that 469 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: continues to keep the woke got increased. But that also 470 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: explains why Black families have such a sentimental value to 471 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: their properties because they're like, you know, if my grandma 472 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: owned this, I can't sell it because we as a 473 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: community don't have property. And that's what I want to 474 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: talk about today, is because just owning a piece of 475 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: property and squatting on it is not using the asset 476 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: the way it was supposed to be used, or holding 477 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: onto that asset waiting until said granny and grandpa whoever 478 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: passes away, when there may be opportunities to pull from 479 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: that home while they're there and then purchase another property 480 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: or invest think about someone who wants to start up. 481 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: Those are the times when you can actually say, hey, 482 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: let me find out what this is worth, what is 483 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: it appraising for, What can I pull from to then 484 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: invest into something to make this grow. Because also we 485 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: know that holding onto a property or an investment that's 486 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: just not making you any kind of money is also 487 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: too to a detriment. But that's that's also the mindset. 488 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: Right for black Americans, the mindset is always to get 489 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: a good job, make sure you get a pension, and 490 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: make sure you get your two weeks vacation. And if 491 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: you can live a life like that, then you're successful 492 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: in America, as opposed to thinking, my job is only 493 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: for me to be able to get money to own property, 494 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: to then use that property to get more property. This 495 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: way I don't have to work. Working is only part 496 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: of the American dream. Working is not the full American dream. 497 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: But you know what, in their defense, there's a scarcity 498 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: mentality that they have um probborly generations. To us, we're 499 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: just not having. Sometimes they just want to see the 500 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: absolutely they want to see their money, as in, I 501 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: own this vehicle, don't matter if it's a depreciating asset. 502 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: They just want to see that they own it. You're 503 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: not leasting, they're not renting. They own. They want to 504 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: own this home that they live in. Because why I'm 505 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: not paying rent to anyone. I own this home. I'm 506 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: paying my mortgage, My home is paid off, My bank account. 507 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: I have this four oh one K, I have my 508 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: savings account. I can see my dollars and sense here. 509 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: So that makes sense for me. But in the grand scheme, 510 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: is it really making sense if you cannot use those 511 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: assets to then grow the money. You know, So let's 512 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: jump into some facts and stats, because you know, we 513 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: like to know what they're saying. So, the rate of 514 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: white home ownership is now while black ownership is points lower. 515 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: According to the most recent Census Bureau figures, more than 516 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: half of white families end up with more wealth than 517 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: their parents, while only blacks are able to do the 518 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: same thing. And a large part of that comes from 519 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: home ownership. Because if you hone, if you own property 520 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: and you pass property down, the property continues to gain value. 521 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: So that's why those the younger generation is valued more 522 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: because they're continuing to not only accrue more property, but 523 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: the property value goes on. Also, think about this. A 524 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: couple gets married, Okay, you have a black couple, we 525 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: have a white couple. White couples. You know, the bride's 526 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: mom and dad they throw the wedding right, they pay 527 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: for the entire thing because that's their daughter. The groom's 528 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: parents down payment for a home, and then they're living 529 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: in a home. A lot of you get from the 530 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: wedding and the gifts from people who know, Okay, we 531 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: want to help the family. We're going to cover our 532 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: head and then give them a little extra to put 533 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: towards whatever it is that they're trying to say. If 534 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: you use our wedding, for example, we have if everybody 535 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: brings a hundred dollars to cover their plate, and our 536 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: parents would have covered everything, we would have walked with 537 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: dollars on top of a down payment for a home 538 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: which we didn't have, which we didn't. So we're just 539 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: looking at the white family versus the black family. And typically, 540 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: of course there's anomaly situations. However, for the most part, 541 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: that's how they're starting. They're starting with that little extra edge, 542 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: whereas a black couple may have to be like, all right, 543 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna move in together now, we're going to rent 544 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: this space until we can save up enough money for 545 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: a down payment for a home, you know, and also 546 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay off the credit cards that 547 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: you used to pay for your wedding because and these 548 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: are not like we don't we always said we generalizations 549 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: are the devil's work. So we're not saying all white 550 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: people go for the all black people. What we're talking 551 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: about is why the financial wealth gap is the way 552 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: it is. And we're talking about the majority, the majority 553 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: or even people that we've experienced. That's definitely and when 554 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: we talk about these experiences, we're not guessing. We're talking 555 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: about stuff that we've seen. So and we both went 556 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: to we both went to Haustra. So we have friends 557 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: who are white, we are friends who are black. Codein 558 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: has done weddings for the past. It was like decades 559 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: and all of your all of your clients were not 560 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: black and were not white. But you saw how the 561 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: weddings went on both sides, extremely different, and how the 562 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: groom and bride were able to walk away with different 563 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: things on each side. Whereas I know, especially in our 564 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: in our culture black culture, people sometimes don't even know 565 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: to bring gifts to a wedding. You know, it's just 566 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: let me come celebrate with them. You know, they're going 567 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: a good party and they and it's like if you 568 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: don't get invited, you get piste off. But you know, 569 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: it's customary that you bring a gift and cover your plate. 570 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: That's customary for certain you know, for certain uh cultures. 571 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: And I mean it's not all black cultures, because in 572 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: African cultures they have huge weddings and the bride and 573 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: groom walk away with tons of money so that that 574 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: money spray. You know, you haven't seen it all doing 575 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: the weddings. You've seen it all. I've seen it all. 576 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: A good time. Cocktail hours usually my favorite too, I 577 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: will partake um. White families are twice as likely to 578 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: receive an inheritance as Black families, and that inheritance is 579 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: nearly three times as much. For families with an inheritance, 580 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: median white wealth is seven point five times larger than 581 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: for Black families. Comparatively, white families have five point four 582 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: times more wealth than Black families without an inheritance. Interesting 583 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: for most American families, home equity is their largest asset, 584 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: and homeowners are much wealthier than renters. Americans who own 585 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: homes in two thousand nineteen had a medium net worth 586 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: of two hundred and fifty five thousand dollars, more than 587 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: forty times the median net worth of renters, and in 588 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, the typical white family had one and 589 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: eighty four thousand dollars in assets, while the typical black 590 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: family had only twenty three thousand dollars according to an 591 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: analysis by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis staggering. 592 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: But but I mean, if you think about it, it 593 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: makes sense, right when you think about slavery. Slavery is 594 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: a class system. Right, if you make slavery illegal, you 595 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: have to create a class system by a different name. Right, 596 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: So we start with gentrification, not that gentrification. We start 597 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: with redlining, right, Then we start with changing laws that 598 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: criminalized black people. Exam. And I know this may seem 599 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: like it's getting a little bit off topic, but just 600 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: human me for a minute. You start with the criminalization 601 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: of black people, right, So once reconstruction happens. We talked 602 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: about this in another podcast. But you have the the 603 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: movie Birth of a Nation that was played in the 604 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: White House, where you have a white man in black 605 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: face who runs around raping white women and the clue 606 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: klux Klient comes in and saves America from the big 607 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: bad black man that was just freed and slavery. Right, 608 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: that was a birth of a nation, and that's where 609 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: a lot of Southern whites got their pride from right, 610 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: this is that's when. So it's like, oh, we have 611 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: to be concerned about free black people. Now. Then you 612 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: have the Vagrancy Act of eighteen sixty six. Right, The 613 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: Vacancy Act of eighteen sixty six pretty much said that 614 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: if you can't read, write our own property and you 615 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: were homeless, then you were vagrant and that was punishable 616 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: by life in prison. Who can't read or write our 617 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: own property? Now that they're free slaves, So you have 618 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: four million, four million black people free. I think about 619 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: a million died over the time, of course during the 620 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: Civil War, but you have three million black people free 621 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: who couldn't read all right, because you wouldn't let them 622 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: read it write, and they didn't own property. So now 623 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: you have walking convicts that you can pretty much say, hey, 624 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: you're homeless, you can't read it write, Sorry, you have 625 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: to get into our convict program because now you're a vagrant, 626 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: and now you know what we can do with you. 627 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: We can put you in convict leasing. Convict leasing meant 628 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: that all prisoners get to work for the state. As 629 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: long as they are awards of the state, you get 630 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: to work for the state. So pretty much you have 631 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: all of these black people who after being freed, had 632 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: to go through the Vacancy Act of eighteen sixty six 633 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: convict lea seeing those that weren't considered convicts had to 634 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: deal with redlining, and even when they were able to 635 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: build their own cities, they were bombed like Tulsa, Oklahoma, 636 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: and just snatched away from them. And also a lot 637 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: of those those houses weren't even given insurance because the 638 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: government told insurance company not to ensure black homes. So 639 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: you have a hundred years of this cycle happening, and 640 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: you have people who have this mindset that as long 641 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: as I can work, make money and pay my rent, 642 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm living the American dream. But you're paying rent to 643 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: who though who? You're paying rent to white families who 644 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: own the properties that you don't have the possibility to own. 645 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: But then black people still aspire to live the happy life. 646 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: So it's like, I want to have a big, huge 647 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 1: wedding like they have. I'll put it on credit cards. 648 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Credit cards. You're paying the money back to banks at 649 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: ridiculous interest rates. Right. Oh, in order to be able 650 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: to live this life, I have to go to school 651 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: to get an education. Education course what now, anywhere between 652 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: a quarter to a half of million dollars for you 653 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: to get educated, to get a job that will get 654 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: coming out making forty dollars a year. So you spend 655 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: the most part of your life in debt, trying to 656 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: pay back the banks on credit cards, your banks for 657 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: your student loans, paying rents or your apartment, so you 658 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: don't have a large part of your life with the 659 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: ability to accrue assets, to own property to then pass 660 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: down to your children. Most people who lived who had 661 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: to live through that cycle, die in debt, and you 662 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: know what they passed down to their children, debt. That's 663 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: the truth people, it's it is a system. It is 664 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: not fair, but you have to know how the system 665 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: works and not get caught in the system. For example, 666 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: you and I were in that system for a little bit. 667 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: I made it to the NFL, Yes I did. I 668 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: made it to the NFL, but we lost a lot 669 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: of money in the stock market and we moved back 670 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: to Brooklyn Broke and at the time Kadine and I 671 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: had to property that we own, we were renting because 672 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: when we had the capital, we brought property. First thing 673 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: we did we were renting the people, so the property 674 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: were getting was getting covered for the most part, but 675 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: there were always things that happened when your own properties. 676 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: You and I both had jobs. We were working to 677 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: be able to pay rent and put food on the table, 678 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: but we were also putting money aside for our dreams. 679 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: The key here is the sacrifice, and this is what 680 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: I want to talk to people about. There were four 681 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: years in our marriage, the first four years where Kadina 682 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: and I didn't go on vacation. I turned in my car, 683 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: we took the train. We didn't buy no bags, no clothes, 684 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: no jewelry. For four years. Cosmetics that had you were 685 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: black because it was good because I'm like, as long 686 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: as it wasn't dingy, washed out black, we were all right. 687 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: And and that's how we lived for four years, to 688 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: save up every little last dollar, to continue to invest 689 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: in ourselves and not gonna lie. That was a very 690 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: difficult point, not just financially for us, but in our 691 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: marriage in general, because of just the strain and the 692 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: sacrifice and everything. Pretty much we weren't focused on each other. 693 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: And that's I think when we look back now, that's 694 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: the reason why we struggled so much. A large part 695 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: of why our marriage struggle. It wasn't for anything other 696 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: than the fact that we both were just nose down 697 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: in our fields at the time, trying to make ends 698 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: meet get out of that slump. But it also shows 699 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: you as possible, right, because what I want to employ 700 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: to people is that the system exists and that cycle 701 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: exists to keep a class of people down that they 702 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: can continue to work so that the rich can make 703 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: more money. But there are also things in place that 704 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: can help, right. So for example, Coaudin and I chose 705 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,479 Speaker 1: not to send our kids to independent school. Our kids 706 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: went to public school. We got them tested, We put 707 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: them in the best public schools possible, right Coaudina and I, 708 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: when we first moved back, my grandmother was staying in 709 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: subsidized apartment. I said, yo, put me on the least Justina, 710 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: has I ever got to move back? And our rent 711 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: at the time was only two thousand dollars for that 712 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: huge apartment that we were living in. The subsidized rent 713 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: allowed us to save money. Are they even doing that 714 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: still now where you can put someone on the lease 715 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: for a long time if your grandfather then in New 716 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: York State, yeah can, yes, you can, Yes, you can 717 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: kind of touch and go. So make sure you know 718 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: that Now, if you're if you're starting a new lease, 719 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: a brand new lease, you can't. But if your grandparents 720 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: or your parents had a lease in a subsidized apartment 721 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: in New York City, they cannot up the rent but 722 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: so much percent every month, So I mean every year 723 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: or every lease. But when Canina I talked about capital 724 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: to invest, right, We're not talking about taking the money 725 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: you make and putting in the stock market. When I'm 726 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: talking about investing, I'm talking about investing in ourselves. Right. 727 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: So if Condina not, for example, made an additional two 728 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars every month, with that money that could have 729 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: went to paying a higher rent, or I could have 730 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: went to a car note, or could have went to 731 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: a bag or travel. We took that money and at 732 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: the end of six months, like we got twelve thousand dollars. 733 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: What can we need? Codine was like, well, I can 734 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: use some new brushes. I can do some makeup classes. 735 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: So let me invest in buying these brushes, Let me 736 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: invest in getting some Remember used to rent those rooms 737 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: to those makeup classes. You invest in yourself to make 738 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: more revenue. I did the same thing with the Jim. 739 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm making a little bit more extra 740 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: per month, let me hire another trainer. This way I 741 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: can take in more clients. So I think it's safe 742 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: to say that what we would decipher so far that 743 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: it's not enough just to have the property, to own 744 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: the property, to know that you're existing in the property, 745 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: or that the property is just there even if you're 746 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: not living in it. At some point you have to 747 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: decide when it's going to be beneficial for you to 748 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: potentially pull from that, sell it, or do something to 749 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: an advance and move on to another property, another investment, something. 750 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: So what are ways to kind of decipher that um 751 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: that you've experienced or have you seen. Well, the first 752 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: thing is it is understanding if you're getting the most 753 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: value out of the property, because most people want to 754 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: just live in the property because if you don't have 755 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: a mortgage. I think I think there's a stat that 756 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: says s people's pay checks go to where they're going 757 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: to live. So regardless of what type of job you have, 758 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: if you had more of your money to spend, you 759 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: just be living a better life. So some people look 760 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: at grandma's house is a way for them to just 761 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 1: make more money so they could spend it on stuff 762 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: that's frivolous, you know. So, Oh, I don't have a 763 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: mortgage because I live in my grandmother's house. So I'm 764 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna buy a high end car that has a depreach, 765 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: that has a high depreciation value. I'm gonna buy more bags, 766 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna go on more trips. But it's like 767 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: you're not helping yourself and you're not hoping Grandma move 768 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: the family forward just by staying there for free and 769 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: spending the extra money you have and giving it to 770 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: someone else. So I think it's important for you to say, 771 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: you know what, if we have people who are family 772 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: or family who are staying in grandma's house, how about 773 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: we just we're not gonna call it rent, right, but 774 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: we'll just pay a contribution to the asset. This way 775 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: we can continue to build on the asset. Because you 776 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: know what happens to assets when you live in it. 777 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: You don't pay nothing, It gets fucked up. People live 778 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: in the house, they tear it up, they sit on 779 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: the furniture, they're smoking it, they drinking, they do all 780 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: the sorts of stuff that does and help the property grow. 781 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: But how about we calling a maintenance fee and all 782 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: of the adults that live in this house that don't 783 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: pay no rent, you gotta pay. I'm saying, let's pay 784 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: a maintenance fee. This way we can keep the upkeep 785 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: of the house. So even if you're keeping the upkeep, 786 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: the value of the property continues to increase. There shouldn't 787 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: be multitudes of adults living in the property, but the 788 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: front yard is still not cleaned on a consistent basis, 789 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: and you're bringing down the property value. That's number one. 790 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: If you don't have family living in the property and 791 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: Grandma is not there anymore, but the property is just 792 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: sitting there. Now you have an assets that's not an 793 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: asset that's not generating any revenue. You should be renting 794 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: the property out or you know, depending on the city 795 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: you live in, because now they have so many regulations. 796 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: But you can air b and b the property and 797 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: make additional revenue. Like, there's so many ways that you 798 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: can make money off of these properties that are just 799 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: sitting there as opposed to just having it sit there 800 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: and nobody doing anything with it. Just remember whatever plan 801 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: you devise, just know that if it's an ear, be 802 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: and be Like recently in Atlanta, I heard that they 803 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: got rid of a ton of them, because if the 804 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: government ain't making no money off you, baby, they will 805 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: find a way or they will put the kabash in it. 806 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: So make sure you do you do do your due 807 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: diligence when you're trying to figure out what that next 808 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: step is gonna look like for you in your investment. 809 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: So I think those are some great tips, some great tricks, 810 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: things that we should just as a people be able 811 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: to advance, you know. And I'm excited about our generation 812 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 1: and the generations hopefully moving forward that this legacy building 813 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: that we talked about so often that seems so almost 814 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: really daunting or untouchable. I think this is a great 815 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: way to start and a great way to continue to 816 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: make our families proud. You know, my parents have a 817 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: property that now they were looking to possibly sell. This 818 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 1: was an investment property that they've had for years um 819 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: and then they realize, you know, what if I were 820 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: to sell this right now, ay, I may not get 821 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: the worth or what I think I should be getting 822 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: for it. And then the capital gains tax is something 823 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: that you have to pay back unless unless your parents, 824 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: like we did, put it in the trust. Yeah. I 825 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: was going to get to that. So yeah, so instead 826 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: of doing that, like they said, this was something that 827 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: they purchased UM with the hopes of being able to 828 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: pass it down to me, my brother and my sister, 829 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: and I told my dad to or actually you did, 830 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: you had the idea to tell him. You know what, Pop, 831 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: you've worked so hard you and mom have, you know, 832 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: worked hard to obtain this UM. You don't have to 833 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: wait until you're dead and gone for us too. Then 834 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: the benefits of it, there's so many different ventures that 835 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: we have now, different opportunities where we're like, yo, if 836 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: we had this capital right now, we can jump on 837 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: this investment, or we can you know, do this to 838 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: improve their property and then potentially make more money on 839 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: the back end with that, you know. So it's really 840 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: great to have those conversations. And I think our generation 841 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: needs to be the ones to educate our parents because 842 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: the tides have shifted to the point where our parents 843 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: were taking care of us and we're at that age 844 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: now where I feel like we're starting to take care 845 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: of our parents. That we're the ones that have to 846 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: kind of make sure that they're going to be okay 847 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: as they continue to age, which we hope gracefully and 848 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: without stress because we're here to help them do so. 849 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 1: So let's talk more about putting that money in a trust, 850 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: different ways that we can now capitalize off of the house, 851 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: the property, Grandma's investment. So what people need to understand 852 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: is that when your parents buy a property and they 853 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: pass the property to you, you're gonna have to pay 854 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: capital gains tax when you sell that right, which means 855 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: if your parents buy a property for dollars and the 856 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: property just grows to be a million, right, that's nine 857 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of capital gains And it doesn't matter 858 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: it was your parents. And if your parents are gone, 859 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: you still have to pay capital gains tax if they 860 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: left the property to you, because they're not giving you 861 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: that whole nine eighties scot free at all. Not gonna happen. 862 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: But if you put it in the trust and the 863 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: trust keeps them as the beneficiary, keeps them as the 864 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: owners of the property, but you the beneficiary, now you 865 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: don't have to pay full capital gains tax thousand. I 866 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: think what happens is the property rolls over into what 867 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: the value of the property it would have been now 868 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: if they purchased it, so it wouldn't be considered the 869 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: full twenty so we'll still yeah, and I'm not I'm 870 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: not an expert in that, but I do know that 871 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: if you put it into a trust, that you don't 872 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: have to pay the full capital gains tax on all 873 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: of that property, which is important for people to know. 874 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 1: When you do have a property that's uh rental property, 875 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: you should put a trust or create a trust because 876 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: that also protects you from being sued if something happens 877 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: in the event, like you have properties in your name. Okay, 878 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: this is the void ellis property someone slips and folds 879 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: on the front lawn, they can sue the foul eleus, 880 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, but if the properties in the trust inside 881 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 1: of and an LLC owns the trust, they can only 882 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: sue the LLC that the property's name is under. They 883 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: can't sue me personally, which is important for people to 884 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: know when you rent property. But so things we should 885 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: also consider before selling is the attachment to this place 886 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: based on anything other than emotions. Okay, because the death 887 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 1: of a family member always comes with emotional after effects, 888 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: but are your emotions enough to keep you financially tied 889 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: to the property. And we see this a lot. You 890 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: see this a lot, so and so lived here forever. 891 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: We never sell in this property, and no one looks 892 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: to do anything advantageous with the property. Or four people 893 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: just want to live there and they want to live 894 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: there for freeze so they don't have to pay rent, 895 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: or they can use whatever Monday have to go do 896 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: whatever frivolous things they want to do. And that's not 897 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: fair to the person who died trying to make sure 898 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: the property was staying in the family. So if it's 899 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: if it's just an emotional attachment and people are leeching 900 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: and mooching off of the property, it's time to move 901 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: forward for sure. Another thing to consider, do you have 902 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: the financial knowledge to manage the sale or maintenance of 903 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: the property. Like we discussed the truth is selling the 904 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: home or keeping it can create generational wealth for the family. 905 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: It's important to have financial education to help you understand 906 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: what the best choices for the family. So we'll give 907 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 1: you guys an example. Canine's parents bought property. They sold 908 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: two houses to pay for your education. Right, they have 909 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: one property left the one problem. They have two properties 910 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: left the problem, so one for education to pay for 911 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: you guys education. So you guys don't have any debt 912 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: from school, which is great. Which is one way you 913 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: see selling a property can help a family because if 914 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: you're selling the property and using the equity to pay 915 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: off um higher learning or education, your children, Yeah, they 916 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: your your parents invested in you, so your parents get 917 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: to graduate and not have any debt to pay back 918 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 1: for school. That's number one. Number two, your dad said, 919 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: I always wanted this building for my kids. I wanted 920 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: them to own it. In his mind, it was if 921 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: they own this building and they continue to rent it out, 922 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: they could split the monthly rent between the three of 923 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: you guys every month, And in his mind, that's what 924 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: he saw. But then we sat down and was just 925 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: like with dad, if you sell this property and you 926 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: give all of us the shares of the equity that 927 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: you had for us, we could all buy our own 928 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: separate properties and do the same thing you did. And 929 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: then for him it was like, oh, wait, you right right. 930 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: So rather than just sitting on it and all splitting 931 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: the rent from one property, you teach your children how 932 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: to do the same thing you did, and you use 933 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: the equity to duplicate that process. That's how you create 934 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: generational wealth. Now the family owns how many properties three 935 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: and then that three can turn into nine, and then 936 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: nine turns into twenty seven. And that's ultimately this is 937 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: what I do, And this is that's how you build 938 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: generational wealth. Can you imagine three generations from now, the 939 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: elyssis own over a hundred properties because every time, but 940 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: we have four kids, so that one will turn the four, 941 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: and the four return to sixteen and the sixteen to 942 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: sixty four. Like, that's that's what you do, that's what 943 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,479 Speaker 1: you hope for, which leads me to the next point. 944 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: How will your decision effects the next generation? Will you 945 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: sell the house and old on money, cars, clubs, close 946 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: hose or will you use the money to pay off 947 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: a debt and invest in other income generating vehicles? And 948 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: this is this is an important part for families. We 949 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: have to do a better job of not relying on 950 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: schools to teach our kids. Right schools are not going 951 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 1: to teach our kids about true American history right now. 952 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: They call it critical race theory. And people are scared, right, Okay, 953 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: don't don't teach them that. I'm not worried about nobody 954 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: teaching my kids about history, because I'm going to teach 955 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: them right I'm also not just gonna teach my kids 956 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: at one plus one equals too. I'm gonna teach my 957 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: kids about equity taxes. I'll give them a greater financial 958 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: financial access to information. What does the bank account? What 959 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: does the savings account? What is an I RA? What 960 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 1: is the four O one? Kid? These are the things 961 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: that we need to teach our kids along with trades. 962 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: Because you may have a child that said I don't 963 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: want to go to college. Cool, you don't want to 964 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: go to college. Do you want to be an electrician? 965 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: Do you want to be a plumber? Do you want 966 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: to be a carpenter? But why should I do that? Well, 967 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: your dad owns a multitude of properties. Rather than me 968 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 1: paying someone else to do the work on the house 969 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: as we buy, how about you get a trade, you 970 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 1: learn how to do that work. You can use that 971 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: work as sweat equity to own your own properties within 972 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: the family. This way, I don't got to pay someone else. 973 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: But now you can fix up this house and get 974 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: paid by owning the property. Then start your own business 975 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: and do other properties. And and that's how you teach 976 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: your children exactly, that's how you teach your children. Because 977 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: if home ownership and land ownership is the number one 978 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: way to increase wealth in America. We should be teaching 979 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: our children how to own and flip homes, you know, 980 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: and any any other job is just a way for 981 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: you to get capital to do that. And then once 982 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: you know how to do that, your family will always 983 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: have money and they'll always have a place to stay. 984 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: You always hear about people all have money in real 985 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: estate properties. A lot of people the Brich just people 986 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: I know in the world, and I know a lot 987 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 1: of people now being in this industry. I always ask them, 988 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: like Soul, So how do you how did you make 989 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: money just entertainment? I mean, I started the entertainment, but 990 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: I make a lot more of my money now in 991 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: real estate. They all say that it doesn't matter if 992 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: it's Tyler Perry or Draymond Green, or it doesn't matter 993 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: what form of entertainment or athlete or finance person. They 994 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: always say like Balau. Balau started a black rock, but 995 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: now he owns property. Can you afford to keep the property? 996 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,760 Speaker 1: If you keep the property, how will you use it? 997 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: Will it be an investment property? Can you afford the 998 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: taxes and expenses left with it? So this is the 999 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: craziest part. Right when I was working at pact plex 1000 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: Um and I was working with working at pact plex 1001 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: at the gym. Right um, that family that owns pact 1002 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: plex a guy by the name of earth Landau. His 1003 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: family owns a bunch of models, and he and rich 1004 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: Rich Marshall, who owns pac plex Um, they both said 1005 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: to me, you know, there's no property should be anything 1006 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: but an investment property. Even the home you live in 1007 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: should be an investment property. And I was just like, 1008 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: make like, just make it makes sense a real quick 1009 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: And it was just like, even though home you live 1010 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 1: in has equity, if it if it is considered capital, 1011 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: or consider something the value of an asset. If you 1012 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: see an advantage where you can make money, move m h. 1013 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, just move like that. He's like, 1014 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 1: there's so many places to live in the world. Like, okay, 1015 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: say say you let's say you're living in a house 1016 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: where you can gain six million dollars in equity by 1017 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: selling it overnight to someone. You're telling me that that's 1018 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: six million dollars. You can't find another dream home that 1019 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: you want to live in. And when he started saying that, 1020 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: it made sense even when we sat down to speak 1021 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: to Envy. Right, we we sat down and everybody knows 1022 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to money and flipping property and learning 1023 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: how to be a business person, DJ Envy does not 1024 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: hold back on that information. If you ask questions, he'll 1025 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 1: give you all the information you need. All he ever 1026 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: asked is that you do your research and if you 1027 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 1: want to learn, you come with him. He's like, you 1028 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: can make money on anything from watches two cars. So 1029 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: he said, I have no sentimental value to any object 1030 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: other than my kids and my wife. Those are the 1031 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: only objects that are like physical objects that to me 1032 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: have no value. Everything else has a value. And if 1033 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: the value that you can get from it is more 1034 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: than what you put into it, move on and make 1035 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: it a business transaction. And if you start to think 1036 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: like that, that's how you're able to accrude more assets 1037 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: and be able to do more things for your family. 1038 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: As opposed to saying, oh, well, I grew up in 1039 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: this house, I can't sell it. If it's advantageous for 1040 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: you to sell a house and move on, move on. 1041 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: If you decide to sell, do you sell it as 1042 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: it is or do you fix it? At first? It 1043 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: may be expensive if the property needs expansive repairs, but 1044 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: if you sell it as is, you don't want to 1045 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: expect a big buyout. So that that all just depends 1046 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: on the situation you're in. Depends on how much equity 1047 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: you have in a home. For example, say you have 1048 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: a home that your parents bought in the nineties. For 1049 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: now the home is valued at six hundred thousand, So 1050 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: now you have three hundred thousand dollars worth of equity 1051 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: just on what your parents bought it. But also your 1052 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 1: parents have been paying off on the mortgage. So say 1053 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: they've been in the house for fifteen years and now 1054 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: you know they paid off one fifty, So now the 1055 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: mortgage loan is one fifty, but the house can sell 1056 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: for six hundred. Now you have four hundred and fifty 1057 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Right, There's so many ways, like say, say 1058 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 1: you don't have the capital to fix it up, take 1059 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 1: out a home equity loan. Take out a hundred thousand dollars, 1060 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: make the house immaculate. Now you have two hundred and fifty, 1061 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: but it's six hundred thousand. Get the house real praised 1062 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: that six hundred thousand goals to eight hundred thousand, So 1063 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: now you just made an additional fifty thousand my pulling 1064 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: out that loan. There's so many ways for you to 1065 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: use the equity that's in the property to make more 1066 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 1: money that it really just depends on your financial situation. 1067 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,720 Speaker 1: Find out how much equity you have in the property, 1068 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: find out how long it's gonna take for you to sell, 1069 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: and then make your decisions based on that. If it 1070 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: costs you more money to fix it up, don't fix 1071 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: it up. If fixing it up it's gonna make you 1072 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: more money on the sale, fix it up. How many 1073 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: times we've been into the houses looking for some recently 1074 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: and you can see, all right, so they really did 1075 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: some cheap upgrade. It's the surface level make this look good, 1076 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: but you know they didn't really do the good stuff, 1077 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: and it's just to get rid of this house. Will 1078 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: with that, okay? But I get it because as a 1079 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: person who's owning a home wanting to sell, sometimes you 1080 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta exactly. And lastly, how will 1081 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: you pay the inheritance tax? When the owner of the 1082 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: property dies, the property's value is stepped up to the 1083 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 1: fear market value on the day they die, rather than 1084 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: when it was acquired. So if you sell, you will 1085 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: be required to pay taxes on any gain on sales 1086 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: and excess of the current market value which you discussed. 1087 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 1: So there you go. So typically what happens is if 1088 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,439 Speaker 1: you sell, a portion of the money you sell has 1089 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: to be put aside to pay taxes. So if you 1090 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: get four hundred thousand dollars from selling a home, just 1091 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 1: expect those property gain taxes to be about hundred thousand 1092 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: and a hundred thousand of that four hundred. Don't go 1093 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: and spend the quick four hundred, put down away in 1094 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: an account and say this is my tax account. Period. 1095 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: Whenever you sell the property, take away put it in 1096 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: an account to say this is my tax account. So 1097 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to have the money to pay 1098 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 1: capital gains tax. Look at you, just a wealth of 1099 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: knowledge overflowing and bubbling like Jesus love. I love it 1100 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: all right, y'all, So we are going to take a 1101 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: quick break. Um. Let that's sinking for y'all. I hope 1102 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: you were taking some notes, um, and we're gonna get 1103 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: into y'all's notes because you'll be sending us love notes 1104 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: in the form of listener letters that we're gonna get 1105 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: into after some ads are paid. All right, stick around, 1106 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: All right, we're back with listener letters. Let's dive right in. 1107 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: Good afternoon to Valin Cadeine. I hope all is well. 1108 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of your videos and just bought 1109 00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: tickets to your show and we'll see you there. I 1110 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: cannot wait, y'all. You have no idea like I'm itching 1111 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 1: to get back live on stage to interact with you all. 1112 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 1: So we are super excited. Thanks for getting your tickets. 1113 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: Congratulations on baby boy Dakota. I'm in desperate need of advice. 1114 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: My husband and I have two beautiful children and a 1115 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: third on the way. I think my husband doesn't have 1116 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: any connection to our son or with our son. Rather, 1117 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: he has a great connection and bond with our daughter, 1118 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: but when it comes to our son, it's a different 1119 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: ball game. Our son is eleven months old and we 1120 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: have another baby boy on the way. Usually when he 1121 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: comes home from a long day's work, sometimes he'll walk 1122 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: past our son give our daughter a big giant hug. Also, 1123 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: times when I would ask him to give our son 1124 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: a bath, he only is halfway attentive to him. He's 1125 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: a great dad and a great husband and provider. I 1126 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: don't want to seem like I'm discrediting him in any way, 1127 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: but I just don't know what to do. Is there 1128 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: any advice that you can give him to help develop 1129 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: a deeper connection and bond with our son. I think 1130 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: I know kind of what this is. I don't know 1131 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: how old your daughter is. But Devo literally says like 1132 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: he really doesn't have much to do with the boys 1133 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: until they're a little bit older to kind of be 1134 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: thrown around interacting with him, um, you know, um till 1135 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: he can say, Dad, I got to use the bathroom, 1136 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: like what the baby baby phases of things. You're not 1137 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: super doughty. I feel like as a dad with all 1138 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: the boys, I mean, you were hands on with Jack 1139 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: because you had to be, because you know I was. 1140 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: We were in a different petition, and he was the first. 1141 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: He was the first, and then with Cairo and Kas. 1142 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: I do talk to him a lot like I am 1143 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: an attentive father. No you are, But I'm just saying 1144 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: in terms of like being super doughty when they're that age. 1145 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about it, I used to 1146 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: make all the videos with the kids when they were 1147 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: at age eleven months, Like I used to make videos 1148 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: in the morning with the videos. Yeah, but I'm just 1149 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: saying on a day to day basis, when it's like 1150 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: the runnings of things having to do with the kids, 1151 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: like right now pretty much with Dakota, for example, my 1152 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: mom and I do a lot of the you know, backtimes, 1153 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 1: diaper changes, feedings and all that. But and of course 1154 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 1: you're there if we need. You know, what I'm saying 1155 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: is in the past, I had to do that because 1156 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: your mom wasn't living with us, right, So if it's 1157 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: just them too there and then her mom doesn't, it's 1158 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: not living with them, so when she's not doing it, 1159 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: somebody has to do it, right. I don't feel they 1160 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: need to do it as much with Dakota because he 1161 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: has a primary care person who's here all the time. 1162 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: But if your mom wasn't here then it would be. 1163 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: But we kind of no choice, that's what And that's 1164 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when you think about the first 1165 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,439 Speaker 1: three boys, I had no choice, you know what I'm saying. 1166 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: But with Dakota, someone is there to care for him. 1167 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: There's not much I can do now, you know, he 1168 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: just got to be clean fed, And but I feel 1169 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: like to like you even your brother, your dad. They 1170 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: all pretty much say, like, y'all like to be more 1171 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: hands on with the boys or the kids in general 1172 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: when they're a little older, because that's just when you 1173 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: can they can interact with you. So for example, if 1174 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: you bypassed bypasses the son to go to the daughter, 1175 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: it may be because she can communicate and interact a 1176 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: bit more. Same much, but still I'm not gonna walk 1177 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: past my baby to another kid, Like I'm just like, 1178 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like that's a normal don't do that. 1179 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know what that's about unless he's one 1180 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: of those dudes where it's like, this is my son, 1181 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: like he's gotta be tough, you know. I remember when 1182 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: I first had Jackson. I was in that he got 1183 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: to be tough phase. That was my first son. And 1184 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: then as I got older and I realized that I 1185 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 1: need to spend more time hugging him and kissing them 1186 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: and show him that I love him and that will 1187 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: give him the confidence to be tough. But sometimes dad's 1188 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: gotta learn that, and maybe that's something he has to 1189 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: learn first son. Like I felt like because I was 1190 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: I was way more I would say aggressive and distant, 1191 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: with Jackson as far as like if he fell, get up, 1192 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But then I did learn 1193 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: over time that their confidence and toughness is comes from 1194 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: them knowing someone got their back, not from them having 1195 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 1: to figure stuff out on their own, because then that 1196 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: lost feeling feeling can make you feel small, and that's 1197 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: when you I used to watch Jackson like shrink a 1198 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: little bit. I used to be like, why are you shrinking? 1199 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Like I got you? I'm right here. How does he 1200 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: know that I'm here? If I keep telling him to 1201 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: get up on his own? See what I'm saying. We 1202 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: learned that with Jackson. But if you look at Jackson 1203 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: now over the past couple of years, like recently you 1204 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: took him to camp, dude just got out the car 1205 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: like all right later, Man, That wasn't Jackson when he 1206 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: was early on, Jackson was always looking. And I realized 1207 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: the more I hold his hand and hug him and 1208 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: kiss him and be like, yo, you know I got you. 1209 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: And then when he falls, let him know like y'all 1210 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: see you four, I seen you, fo get up now? 1211 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: As opposed to ignoring him, because I thought ignoring him 1212 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: would teach him, you know self, motivation. I got up 1213 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: on my own instead. Now it's more like, yo, I 1214 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: saw you four. I know it hurts, but you gotta 1215 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: get up. You want me help you up. The confidence 1216 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: he gets from knowing that I'm there is now like, no, 1217 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 1: I got it on my own. And I think maybe him, 1218 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: as a first time dad to a boy, it's gonna 1219 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,919 Speaker 1: take him some time to learn that. That's that's really 1220 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: what I think. Yeah, that's very possible for sure, because 1221 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: eleven months is still I mean, baby, it's probably walking now, 1222 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: we're about to be walking, and I think it'll only 1223 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 1: get better as you get older. Yeah, that's I see Dakota, 1224 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: and I still grab them and give them up. You know, 1225 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: you know I love you, and I give him back 1226 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: to me me because there's not much I can do. 1227 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: But I'm not especially when you have three other kids pulling. 1228 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: But y'all were super cute this morning when I had 1229 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: to drop Jackson into camp and me we went to 1230 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: tennis and you Dakota in the bed all cuddled up. 1231 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I have some of my best pictures. So my best pictures, 1232 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I feel like with you and Dakota, or just in 1233 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: general with the kids, or me getting shots with you 1234 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: and him in the bed in the morning together, but 1235 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 1: you need something crazy. And I actually thought about this 1236 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: this morning. Right the minute Mimi walked out the door, 1237 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the Coda started screaming, Right, And I made a choice, 1238 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: and I made the choice before and I'm not going 1239 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 1: to just pick him up and walk him around, so 1240 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 1: you know what I did. But I just sat next 1241 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: to him rub is back while he was screaming, and 1242 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: then after a while he just was looking at me 1243 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: and then stopped. He just stopped. But the thing is, 1244 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: kids train you as much as you think you're training. 1245 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: The kids train you and his mom. If I scream, 1246 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 1: someone's gonna pick me up and walk me around. Right. 1247 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: I've never went through that with the other boys because 1248 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 1: no one walked them around when they were not young. 1249 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 1: So with the Koda, he's going to have to learn that, 1250 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: you know. When I'm with my dad, yeah, I'm not 1251 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna be works like the second time I think that 1252 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: y'all had been in the bed together where he's been 1253 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: awakened and the combing and both y'all a sleep, Like, 1254 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: how did you do that so easy? Because and it's 1255 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 1: still the thing too when he walks in the room 1256 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: when you walk in the room, Dakota will hear you 1257 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: and his head is like he's breaking. They all do 1258 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: that since they're like newborns, even a couple of days old. 1259 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: They're looking at me talking to that stomach. Yeah, it's 1260 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: that bond there. So hopefully you guys will figure things 1261 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: out as a family together. I wonder if she's also 1262 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: expressed this to her husband too. Yeah, I think she should. 1263 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I think you should express what you noticed because he 1264 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: may also he may not realize he's doing it, or 1265 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: he may tell you I'm doing that for and then 1266 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: you can discuss, you know what you think the effects 1267 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: of that will be, for sure are Good luck to y'all. 1268 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Number two, Hey, Codeine and Devil. I am a longtime 1269 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: fan and a faithful Deadass listener. Thank you so much. 1270 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: I love you both. My X and I were in 1271 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: a three year relationship and I broke up with him 1272 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: because he cheated. Fast forward three years later, we reconnected 1273 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: again and have been dealing dating around each other for 1274 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: about six months. We get along so well, this chemistry. 1275 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 1: We're making future plans. We communicate well. When we started 1276 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: talking again, we agreed that we will not be seeing 1277 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: or talking to other people on the side. I asked 1278 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: him multiple times if he was seeing someone else, and 1279 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: he always said no. Turns out that he is speaking 1280 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: to someone else, and I lost all trust in him. 1281 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: He tells me that he is no longer speaking to her, 1282 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: and then I am the only one he wants to 1283 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: build a future with, and he's going to prove that 1284 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: to me. I love this man with all my heart, 1285 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: and aside from his infidelities, he's a great man. He 1286 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 1: motivates me to be better. I love his personality and 1287 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: everything about him. I can go on and on about 1288 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: all the great things he brings to me. How do 1289 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: I move forward? How can I and still trust in 1290 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: him again? Or you need to still trust You don't 1291 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: need to trust him, trust yourself. I'm afraid that he 1292 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: may strike again and speak to other women on the side. 1293 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: How do I know he stopped speaking with her. Your 1294 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: advice is highly important to me. You may not know this, 1295 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: but the two of you are my relationship counselors. Hellow up, 1296 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: just as all order. I don't like being relationship counselors. 1297 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you this though. Um. The first thing 1298 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I would tell you to do is to block out 1299 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: all the noois. I know that you're getting plenty of 1300 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: advice and plenty of things you should or should not 1301 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: do from people outside. You know this man, This man 1302 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: knows you. Okay. Um, when someone shows you who they are, 1303 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,479 Speaker 1: trust them the first time. That's number one, Okay, number two. 1304 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: Only you can make a decision of whether or not 1305 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 1: you're tired of trying to be of service to someone 1306 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: or letting someone try to be of service to you. 1307 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: The reason why I say that is because there's these 1308 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 1: old sayings that say, you know, you can't teach an 1309 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: old dog new tricks or want a cheater always a cheater. 1310 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: And I know firsthand from some of my boys that 1311 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: that's not always true, because I do have boys that 1312 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 1: used to be wild and then they're just like, I 1313 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,040 Speaker 1: don't want to do this no more. So that's not 1314 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: always true. But it depends on your patience level and 1315 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the level of respect that you think he has for you, 1316 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: and only you know you know, so realistically we can't 1317 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 1: tell you. But what we can tell you is that 1318 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: if you feel uncomfortable in the situation, and that uncomfortable 1319 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 1: uncomfortability comes from a lack of trust, there's only but 1320 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 1: so long you can take that before you start to 1321 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: project the fact that you don't trust him on him, 1322 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and it's going to be an issue for the two 1323 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 1: of you because even if he's trying his hardest and 1324 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: he's not cheating anymore, and you don't trust him and 1325 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: you have insecurities because you don't trust him, that's going 1326 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: to be frustrating to him. Yeah, that's what I was 1327 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna say that the insecurities, um and that lack of 1328 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: trust is probably the biggest thing that jumps out at 1329 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: this today because say he does hang up the towel 1330 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: and he said, you know what, it's me and you 1331 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,919 Speaker 1: are you always going to be wanting to look over 1332 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: his shoulder? Are you going to be questioning when he 1333 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 1: questioning him when he says he's someplace, wondering if he's 1334 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: someplace else? And the fact of the matter is that 1335 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: these infidelities that he's had, we're all choice is that 1336 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: he's made. He was deliberate in those choices. We don't 1337 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: personally their choices. So anything that we've had in the 1338 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 1: past and our issues, even you know, we've always said, 1339 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 1: we made that choice, and you own up to that choice. 1340 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 1: And then it's up to the other person to decide 1341 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: based off of that choice and how it's made me feel. 1342 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Is this something that I want to continue moving forward 1343 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: with knowing that it could possibly happen again, because why 1344 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: people are human and people make their choices. Um, But 1345 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I think the bigger issue is moving past this. If 1346 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: that's something that you guys decide to do. I'm just 1347 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 1: concerned about where your level of trust is going to 1348 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 1: be for him. It won't be instilling trust on him again. 1349 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: It's you having the trust. But you're gonna laugh. But 1350 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Zack and Karen sisters, and I'm gonna tell you, and 1351 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why Zach used to cheat on 1352 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Karen all the time, Right, Karen had a little side 1353 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: or whatever, but that was pretty much in reation Zach 1354 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: being immature. Zack decided that he wanted to try to 1355 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 1: be the man that he thought he could be for Karen. 1356 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Karen decides that's not good enough. I want to see 1357 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: things with Aaron, So Zax is fine. Zach moves on 1358 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 1: with Fatima. Now Karen sees Zack being the man that 1359 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: she wanted with Fatima, and she can't even accept Zach. 1360 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, she can't even accept Aaron because she wants 1361 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: the version of Zach that Fatima's getting. The reason why 1362 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: I say that is because of this. I don't know 1363 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: how old you are. I don't think that you said it. 1364 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 1: But if you already discredit this man as someone who 1365 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 1: can't possibly get right, and and you love him, and 1366 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: you listen to other people, and he goes on and 1367 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 1: becomes the man that you wanted for someone else, you're 1368 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna be heartbroken, and you're gonna sit there and have 1369 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 1: resentment towards whatever man comes at you next, and resentment 1370 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: to whatever friends are telling you to move forward. So 1371 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 1: but I say it you because you're the one who 1372 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: has a choice is to make need to make this 1373 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: choice based on how you feel and what you want. 1374 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 1: If you want to continue to give it a try, 1375 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: as long as he's not being disrespectful and he's not 1376 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: putting your health or your or any or your mental 1377 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 1: health in jeopardy, you continue to try to see if 1378 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: you guys can be of service to each other. But 1379 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 1: don't quit now. If you want to quit, and then 1380 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: watch him be somebody, be something to somebody else that 1381 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 1: you wanted and beset. You know what I'm saying, Like like, no, 1382 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: it's the truth though, like there is a chance that 1383 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 1: he may really be at that point, but only you 1384 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: will know. And I think you say, you know what, 1385 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,679 Speaker 1: I've done this as far as I can. I can't anymore. 1386 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: If you're still feeling like I think I can keep 1387 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 1: giving it a try, I would say give it a try, 1388 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,800 Speaker 1: but you have to keep an eye have to keep 1389 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 1: an eye open, because if he's continuing to exude the 1390 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,640 Speaker 1: same behavior he existed exuded before and you continue to 1391 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 1: say it's okay, I'm gonna keep trying, yeah, you could 1392 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 1: also be letting him believe that it's okay. There you go, 1393 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: it's all right. So realistically it's up to you when 1394 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 1: you when enough is enough, it's enough, walk away, or 1395 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: if you realize that he's really figured it out, hopefully 1396 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 1: you guys can be happy together and you can decide 1397 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 1: that internally, because if you evolve too many people, too 1398 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: many friends, then you might be over it and they 1399 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: won't be. Yes, do not involve anybody else in your 1400 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 1: relationship for sure? All right? If you want to be 1401 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 1: featured as one of our listener letters, email us at 1402 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 1: dead as Advice at gmail dot com. That's d E. 1403 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: A D A S. S A D V I C. 1404 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: E at gmail dot com. All Right, moment a truth? 1405 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Time to sell or not to sell Grandma's house? Moment 1406 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 1: of truth? I think mine is pretty straightforward. Do not 1407 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: rely on emotions when it comes to making financial and 1408 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: business decisions. They may give you an inkling on what 1409 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 1: you may or may not be able to do or 1410 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 1: should do, but that should not be the sole determining factor. 1411 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 1: If it's going to be a situation where moving a 1412 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 1: word with a rational mind means advancement for you, yourself, 1413 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 1: your family, your legacy, I agree. I agree that kind 1414 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 1: of goes along with mine, my mom own. The truth 1415 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,679 Speaker 1: is as simple as this. The power and the value 1416 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: of the property is not in the building. It's in 1417 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,800 Speaker 1: the asset. So if you can utilize that asset to 1418 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,919 Speaker 1: create more assets, the power is always in the asset, 1419 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 1: not in the building. Sitting in the building and thinking 1420 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: the building has the power is going to do you 1421 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 1: a disservice. Lastly, if it's a family issue, the person 1422 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: who has invested the most money into the property and 1423 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: has been responsible enough to maintain the property should be 1424 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 1: the person with the deciding vote. And and that and 1425 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,759 Speaker 1: there's nothing. This is non negotiable. Do not let family 1426 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:59,919 Speaker 1: members who do not invest time, blood, sweat, prince capital 1427 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: anything into a property to tell you it ain't fair 1428 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: because of X y Z. If you did not put 1429 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: in on this man, you cannot get in on this 1430 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: man period period. 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