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Speaker 1: Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Happy Saturday to you as we dive into all sorts

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Speaker 3: of good stuff. Man, we are loaded to the gills

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Speaker 3: open here plenty of ball, ball of course meeting football.

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Speaker 3: There's some weird people out there that don't.

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Speaker 4: Consider ball to be football.

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Speaker 3: That's just that's hot, right, that doesn't make any sense, right, Rich, Right, Jared,

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Ball is football, not it's gotta be Ball is football.

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Speaker 2: And also on this show, I mean, if you're a

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Speaker 2: listener to Countdown, you know you know. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: every day is a good day for ball. And I

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Speaker 2: like the fact that it almost felt like a fun

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Speaker 2: surprise re remembering on Thursday, probably around noon, like you know,

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Speaker 2: when the coverage really started to pick up, that the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame was coming and ball is back. We

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Speaker 2: are going to like ball football back every single week

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Speaker 2: until February. How about that, guys, I think.

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Speaker 5: The misconception is the shirt. Ball is life, you know,

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Speaker 5: and that's basketball. But for the purposes of this show,

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Speaker 5: if you're a countdown listener, I mean, come on, can.

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Speaker 6: We've been down this road.

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Speaker 5: This is our five but this it's gonna be our

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Speaker 5: fourth season doing this. Guys.

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Speaker 4: Wow, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, cheers. I love hoops.

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Speaker 4: That's what I call it. I go, I go hoops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that ball football is.

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Speaker 2: Ball, man.

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Speaker 4: But how about this.

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Speaker 3: While we start with ball, We've got My Parsons of

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys right now. We've got Terry McLaurin of the

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Speaker 3: Washington Commanders right now. Both have requested trades. Now we'll

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Speaker 3: dive into the layers and all that.

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Speaker 4: Let's cut to the chase. Here's the question.

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Speaker 3: Well, either neither or both actually be traded when we

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Speaker 3: get right down to it. What do you think, Rich,

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Speaker 3: We'll start with you. Either neither or both are actually

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Speaker 3: dealt Neither.

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Speaker 2: I in my brain neither. I just feel like a.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is very generalized. This is not specific

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Speaker 2: to these two guys. A Typically when there's contract negotiations, strife.

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Speaker 2: It does get hammered out with the principal and primary characters.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's so rare that another, like a third party,

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Speaker 2: gets involved. It does happen. I'm not saying it doesn't,

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Speaker 2: but it's rarer than obviously these things getting hammered out.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that there's some sincerity here. I

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Speaker 2: do think that both Terry and Micah feel wronged or

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Speaker 2: like they're they're not being represented, and I don't mean

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Speaker 2: by their agent, but but by the way the negotiations

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Speaker 2: represented and they want out. So I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: that they don't actually want to be traded. Maybe in

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Speaker 2: this moment, potentially they're using it just as a bluff.

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Speaker 2: Maybe both of them would be more comfortable with the

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Speaker 2: teams that they played for. But I think it's uh.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a negotiation tactic first, and I also

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Speaker 6: They're both under contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The Parsons thing is even crazier because not only is

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Speaker 5: he under contract this year, but he can be franchised

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Speaker 5: for the next two years. He has zero leverage absolutely

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Speaker 5: tradeable piece. You would think if they can get something

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Speaker 5: so how do you want to hand? Like, what are

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Speaker 5: you getting back for him? That's always the question I

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Speaker 5: player or the agent, it's usually a negotiation tactic. If

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Speaker 5: I'll offer us something. He's available. It doesn't always mean

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Speaker 5: lines are open, give us a call. But in this situation,

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Speaker 5: like I'll take the Parson stuff because that I think

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Speaker 6: I think he's the better player.

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Speaker 5: It's it's just he just doesn't like the way that

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Speaker 5: and we talked about this. I think last week it's

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Speaker 5: got to wear two hats. He invited Micah in to

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Speaker 5: Then he sneaks on the GM hat and starts to

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Speaker 5: for it. Again, that's Micah's side of the story. But

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Speaker 5: he's under contract this year and they can franchise him

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Speaker 5: for the next two years. He has zero cards to

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Speaker 5: play except I hate it here. I want out, and

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys aren't trading him, like unless there's a godfather

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Speaker 5: offer like me, me an offer I can't refuse, like

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Speaker 5: three first rounds, maybe even four. I mean, you think

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Speaker 5: and two seconds and djmore for Bryce freaking Young. What

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Speaker 5: do you think the Cowboys are asking for for Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 5: So I just I just don't see either of them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, guys, I say neither as well.

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Speaker 4: It's one of these deals. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I was going through my notes and I just saw,

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Speaker 3: actually there was the sound bites from last week's show,

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Speaker 3: and it was the you know, the hurt feelings. The

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Speaker 3: right like, there was language in the contract the Bengals wanted,

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Speaker 3: agent did not want. They're going back and forth. There's

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Speaker 3: who's clunkily speaking publicly on this, and he's like, well,

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Speaker 3: he's just willy nilly throwing those possibilities out there, like

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Speaker 3: in this whole situation where I thought Rich said it

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Speaker 3: the team I've always known. I get all this money,

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Speaker 3: it's probably better than I'm gonna see here or there.

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Speaker 3: Because these teams they've got to give up assets, they've

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Speaker 3: I think that in the moment you might think, oh,

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Speaker 4: I just don't see that happening. Both are big playmakers.

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Speaker 3: And think about this with Washington, if they dealt Terry McLaurin,

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Speaker 4: Receivers from last season.

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Speaker 3: You know, they don't have Olimide Zakiyas who's now with

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Speaker 3: Brown he's with Jacksonville. Yeah, so if Terry McLaurin, he

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Speaker 3: had a great year too. McLaurin eighty two catches, nearly

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Speaker 3: eleven hundred yards, thirteen touchdown grabs, and they're just gonna

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Speaker 3: work out fine, Like they're not gonna do that. Both

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Speaker 3: the Brinks truck all that good stuff, and these players

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Speaker 3: are going nowhere. Man, I wouldn't buy into this whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see either of them going somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's perfectly stated about the Commanders, Brian.

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Speaker 2: The fact that Jayden Daniels this team, they're in win

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Speaker 2: would make absolutely zero sense. And to be you know,

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Speaker 2: perfectly honest, making him upset also doesn't make sense. But look,

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Speaker 2: you're running a business. You know, not everybody can be

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Speaker 2: people that you have to you know, get under control,

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Speaker 2: so to speak. You know what I mean, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's essentially what football is. It's everybody believing in one

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Speaker 2: mean that, there is no question the Commanders need continuity

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Speaker 2: Micah and the Cowboys. It's almost externally the reason why

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Speaker 2: I believe this trade won't happen, more so than what's

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Speaker 2: happening internally. Like think about the massive, massive, like earth

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Speaker 2: shaking amount of assets you would need to get Micah

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Speaker 2: there is is that desperate right now for Micah Parsons

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Speaker 2: where they would first of all have to unearth a

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Speaker 2: and then on top of it pay him an insane deal, Like,

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Speaker 2: name the team who's capable of doing that? Right now,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you there's there's.

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Speaker 5: I think he's getting traded to the Eagles, which is

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Speaker 5: the most absurd thing. Ever, their first round pick is

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Speaker 5: to be you have to give up like four first

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Speaker 6: Like it's insane.

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Speaker 2: It's just not happening. It's not for today. And I

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Speaker 2: will say this again, it's again going back to the

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Speaker 2: original thing I said, and this is more generalized. Typically,

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Speaker 2: the teams that are in a first of all, that

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Speaker 2: about free agency looming. But then take it a step further.

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Speaker 2: Both of these players are under contract. Micah has he's

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Speaker 2: in the middle of his contract. He just wants more.

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Speaker 2: McLaurin has a contract year, which by the way, also

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Speaker 2: So if a team trades for him, they're going to

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Speaker 2: have to imediately jump into contract negotiations with him too.

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Speaker 2: There's just not a ton of upside for the teams

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Speaker 2: who would be interested in these players. So in general,

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Speaker 2: these things typically get hammered out by the team that

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Speaker 2: the players under contract with because there's already familiarity between

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Speaker 2: all the role players and characters involved. Unless something changes,

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Speaker 2: like in a big way, like all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: there is a moral offense taken by one side or

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Speaker 2: because somebody's felt wronged. Outside of something like that, I

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Speaker 2: honestly think that Micah is gonna be a cowboy, Jaden's

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Speaker 6: Back up the truck and that's the freakin Browns.

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Speaker 5: The part about McLaurin that I think is intriguing to

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Speaker 5: Like can we get higher this year? Like you're just

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Speaker 6: Right when things are starting to get good.

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Speaker 5: So there's also the incentive for McLaurin where he might

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Speaker 6: Going to prevail in this situation eventually.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a negotiating tactic, that's all. With McLaurin.

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Speaker 3: This is straight out of the Deebo Samuel AJ Brown playbook.

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Speaker 3: How and coincidentally, Debo is now Terry mclaurin's teammate. Debo's

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Speaker 4: There is no other way to interpret that.

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Speaker 3: And if you think about the unnecessary drama and this

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Speaker 3: so yeah, I can see Micah being incredibly tired of

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Speaker 4: It's basically like, screw this guy. I am done.

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Speaker 3: But again, it's amazing how a bag of cash can

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Speaker 2: Rich no question San Diego, the Padres. What they've done

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Speaker 5: I just don't know if Detroit has enough now they're

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Speaker 5: I thought the Yankees added enough. I didn't love. I

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Speaker 5: It was absolutely whack. The Pittsburgh Pirates scored nine runs

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Speaker 5: baseball you see some kind of crazy historical stat because

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Speaker 5: that's just the nature of a high volume sport.

435
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Speaker 6: But I thought the Yankees got better. I like McMahon.

436
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Speaker 5: He's an elite defender, and he's got that short porch

437
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Speaker 5: in right field.

438
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 6: He's a big lefty swinger.

439
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Speaker 5: And Bednard, the Pirates closer who didn't pitch well yesterday

440
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 5: but has good numbers and fills a need for them.

441
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 5: So everyone who needed to get better got better. Now

442
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Speaker 5: it's just can these players deliver?

443
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Speaker 6: Man?

444
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Speaker 3: I just think of it from a betting standpoint. Imagine

445
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 3: how many cruel beats you've had. Oh I didn't have

446
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Speaker 3: anything on that Pirates game last night, but imagine if

447
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: you did. Imagine if you had a pretty good amount

448
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: on the Pirates winning the game. Oh my god, I

449
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: scored nine runs in the first inning against the Rockies.

450
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Speaker 3: You've already spent the winnings, you know what I mean.

451
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Speaker 3: It's like cash the ticket. We're good and the Rockies

452
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Speaker 3: come back and win the game. How many runs they scored.

453
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Speaker 5: The ninth and they scored two in the eighth and

454
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Speaker 5: five in the ninth. They were up eight runs heading

455
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Speaker 5: into the eighth inning, it was sixteen.

456
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Speaker 6: I can't even do the math. There's too many numbers.

457
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Speaker 4: On the screen.

458
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sixteen to twelve. I saw the score, and you know,

459
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: like it's funny. I thought about, yeah, maybe I'll watch

460
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Speaker 3: the ninth inning and I'm like, what are the chances

461
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: the Rockies are actually gonna score that many runs and

462
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Speaker 3: win the game.

463
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Speaker 4: And then I saw the final I'm like, oh my gosh,

464
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Speaker 4: I can't believe that happened. Wild Stuf.

465
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Speaker 3: One other thing I'll mention real fast is Carlos Korea

466
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Speaker 3: going back to the Houston Astros.

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Speaker 4: How about that, Like it's it's a good move for Houston.

468
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Speaker 3: He's gonna move to third base because Payne is over

469
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Speaker 3: there at shorts.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like an A Rod type.

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Speaker 5: Pay he got banged up last night actually ironically, like

472
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Speaker 5: a lower leg something.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I saw that on my on my note.

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Speaker 3: It does make me wonder if you could separate, Like

475
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Speaker 3: imagine if Korea just played for the Twins. He was

476
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Speaker 3: never a Houston Astro to begin with, what you would

477
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Speaker 3: think about that move, you'd be like.

478
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Speaker 4: That's a good move by Houston.

479
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Speaker 3: But with him starting his career there in the nostalgia

480
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Speaker 3: and winning a World Series and all that went on

481
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: over there, it's just such a different deal.

482
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Speaker 4: It's just like he's going back home. Wow, you know

483
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Speaker 4: what I mean.

484
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Speaker 3: Like, if you just separated all that stuff and looked

485
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Speaker 3: at the player, it'd be a good get. But the

486
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: nostalgia bumps it up a notch. I feel like, And

487
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: I always think while we're talking betting, man, I always

488
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 3: think of Carlos Korea years ago. I don't even know

489
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Speaker 3: what year it was, but it was the final leg

490
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Speaker 3: of a parlay. They had this extra inning game on

491
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Speaker 3: the road against the Oakland A's and it was a routine,

492
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Speaker 3: you know, ground ball to short and he fumbled it

493
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Speaker 3: a little bit and delayed his throat at first and

494
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Speaker 3: the guy beat it out and the A's somehow, in

495
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Speaker 3: the craziest.

496
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Speaker 4: Fashion, won the game.

497
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Speaker 3: And it screwed up all these like the last leg

498
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Speaker 3: of this extensive parlay bet which we probably never would

499
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Speaker 3: have met.

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Speaker 4: I would have retired that day, and that sort of

501
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Speaker 4: thing always, it's amazing.

502
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Speaker 3: I always think of Carlos Correa with that one misplayed

503
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Speaker 3: ball that happened to unravel a parlay, right, it works Sometimes.

504
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Speaker 2: The Korea reunion, it feels like more than a trade

505
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Speaker 2: because the Astros don't need it to when you look

506
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: at it, I think the trade obviously boosts a lineup

507
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: that's already pretty deep and makes it a little bit

508
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: deeper there. And they're in the thick of a playoff

509
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: chase with the Ms and the Rangers in the Als especially,

510
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: this may be enough to edge those teams out. But

511
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Speaker 2: with a healthy ish roster and you know, elite pitching

512
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: in their rotation, this might just be the boost they

513
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: needed mid season or or mid to late season to

514
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Speaker 2: put them over the hump. Sometimes trades are you know,

515
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: addressing enormous potholes in the roster, and sometimes trades are

516
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: more just signifying to the team like, hey, we weren't sellers,

517
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Speaker 2: we're buyers. We buy into you. And this one felt

518
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: like the fans were involved too, because there's that nostalgia

519
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: effect that involved too, So this felt both like a

520
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: business decision on the field, but off the field too.

521
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of people really proud to

522
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: dust off the Karage jersey and bring it back to

523
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: the ballpark.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And we just got to comment on social media

525
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Speaker 5: from one of our loyal listeners, David s. He's like,

526
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 5: did Jared just say that the Dodgers, who have the

527
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 5: highest payroll in baseball need a ton of help? Yeah,

528
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 5: they did, especially in the bultbed.

529
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's unbelievable how bad they've been this year.

530
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Speaker 5: And they're dealing with a ton of injuries as well,

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Speaker 5: which is not something that any you know, payroll can

532
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Speaker 5: really account for. But Tanner, Scott Kirby Yates, I mean,

533
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: those are guys that were relied upon to be, you know,

534
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 5: relief pitchers for the Dodgers this year. Both guys are

535
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: on the IL. I don't really know who the closer

536
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 5: is going to be in October. They're still probably trying

537
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 5: to figure that out. But yeah, they needed a lot

538
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 5: of help. And Brock Stewart's had a good year, you know,

539
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 5: sub two and a half v RA with a whip

540
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: right around one. I think that's an under the radar

541
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: move that is not going to add a ton of

542
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: money to their payroll that I think will help the team.

543
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 5: It is kind of funny how the teams that have

544
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 5: the highest payrolls, Padres being another one, add the most

545
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 5: like the rich get richer in this league. And I

546
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 5: know we're going to talk about this later, Brian. The

547
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 5: you know, the salary cap situation that might be brewing

548
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: in baseball, I don't think it's ever going to happen.

549
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 5: It just I think the way that the sport is constructed,

550
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: these teams like the Dodgers and the Padres, and the

551
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: Yankees and the Mets, the teams that have the rich

552
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 5: owners and the halves, because of the way that the

553
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: revenue is constructed, with the sharing of the revenue, the

554
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 5: television revenue, It just it feels like the salary cap

555
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 5: is never happening in this sport.

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to that at the top of next hour,

557
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: for sure, we'll dive into that. And Bryce Harper dropping

558
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: f bombs in the base of Rob Manfred. Wow, craziness.

559
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: But you know, listen, we started with ball, ball is

560
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: on the brain. We go back to football, and first

561
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 3: the initial question, are you guys a fan of the

562
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: band Allison Chains?

563
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, you like it?

564
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: Jared fan thumbs up, thumbs out fan, A big fan

565
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: like love Allison, especially with Lane Staley late singer fantastic U.

566
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: But there's a different kind of change, No more chain gang.

567
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 6: Right.

568
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: I had to ask you about Alison. Change to grease

569
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Speaker 3: the skids for the chain with a.

570
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 6: Good transition, right, Do you like that?

571
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 5: Right?

572
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? So no more chain gang.

573
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Basically in the NFL, they're actually going to be on

574
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: the sideline for window dressing and like emergency situations. But

575
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: we got our taste of the new virtual measurement system

576
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: that was during the Hall of Fame game. So they

577
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: literally just put this graphic on the screen and it's

578
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: like there's the ball and there's the first down line. Magically,

579
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Speaker 3: first down, move the chains even though there aren't chains,

580
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: move the virtual chains, I guess, right. So first thing

581
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Speaker 3: is do you like the change? You got your first

582
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: taste of it. Did you like it? Did you miss

583
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: the chain gang? How'd you feel?

584
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Speaker 2: Anytime you incorporate technology into a very human experience, I

585
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: think it gets further and further away from the point,

586
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: like the point of football, the point of sports in

587
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: general is to have errors, Like you know, whether those

588
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: errors be with the players, whether those errors be with

589
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: the officiating. And I promise you, even when it happens

590
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: against the team that I root for or I have

591
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: interest in seeing win. Does it sting when an official

592
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: or an umpire or a referee gets something wrong? Yeah,

593
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: it absolutely does. But do I prefer that over going

594
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: over every single frame with insane amounts of detail and

595
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: studying slow mo? Did his foot stay in? Did his

596
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: foot go out? I mean, is there some drama with

597
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: instant replay? Yeah, but since instant replay came out, I

598
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: would argue there's more time wasted and more questions left

599
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: to be answered than any have been actually answered. And then,

600
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Speaker 2: in terms of this, I think there's going to be

601
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: flaws with this system. There already are just from the

602
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: standpoint of fan reaction and nostalgia, but there's going to

603
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: be actual flaws with this system as we move through

604
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: this regular season. And I just, I just I don't

605
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: like it. I think that it's anti sport to have

606
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: technology as an overlord to a very human experience. I

607
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: don't think there's room for it. And I understand there's

608
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: a lot of betters who disagree with me, and I

609
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: get that, but sports have been going on for a

610
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: long time without these type of interferences. I think it

611
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: slows down the game. I think it comes it up.

612
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: I think it makes us too reliant on knowing every

613
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: exacting detail, when that is by nature anti sport. I

614
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: don't like it.

615
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 6: I like that take.

616
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: I I like the new virtual measurements because I think

617
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 5: we like it's the very inaccurate way of like, of

618
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: all the things that we are capable of doing, I

619
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Speaker 5: think spotting the football is the one thing that we

620
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: really strugg like, it's just something that we've really it's

621
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Speaker 5: a really hard thing to do. For the refs, it's

622
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 5: almost impossible. And then the chain gang is just it's

623
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Speaker 5: it's crazy that that's how we determine for a billion

624
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 5: dollar league whether or not you're gonna move on with

625
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: your with your drive or not. But I do like

626
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: that take that that that Rich had because I do

627
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 5: think that there is a layer of the instant replay

628
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 5: where we've now gone too far. I don't know if

629
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 5: this specific instance is it, but I think for example,

630
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: in college basketball, when we're trying to figure out points

631
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: kinds of a second, you know, when we stop the

632
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 5: game for like every single moment the last two minutes

633
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: to make sure that the clock is right and all

634
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: these things, I think that is a little bit too far,

635
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: And I think there is some human element with the

636
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 5: officiating process, like subjective calls, that maybe we've gone a

637
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: little bit too far. But I think spotting the football

638
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: it's such an elemental part of the game. I want

639
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: to get that part right. And I think the the

640
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: inaccuracies of the chain gang can be a little bit

641
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 5: too much, But I do agree overall, I think we

642
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 5: are moving in a direction where we're getting too much

643
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 5: too fine with our tuning for these you know, figuring

644
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: out what's right and what's wrong.

645
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: To me, it would be like if pro wrestling got

646
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: rid of the steel stairs, you know what I mean,

647
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Like why why would you? We have virtual stairs, right,

648
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: and we don't need the steel stairs. All the gradial

649
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: things that happened with this he got thrown into the

650
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Speaker 3: steel stairs, like so and so picked up the steel stairs,

651
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Like all these elements and drama that

652
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Speaker 3: to me was what the chain gang was. Yes, I

653
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: loved it, Like Geene Sterotur with the index card. Yeah,

654
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: just like when they're extending the chain and you're trying

655
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: to do them, is this the first they're extending it?

656
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: It just stops and then they you're starting to like

657
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: project is it gonna be a first own? I loved

658
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: all that stuff and it's just gone. Now it's just virtual.

659
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: I'm with you, though, Jared, like this is very important

660
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: to get it right. But this what's the honest question

661
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: I have. Will virtual measurements lead to more or less

662
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory?

663
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: More?

664
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might, that's a real question.

665
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 6: He's gonna be more.

666
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: Because play that out right, let measure this's a big game.

667
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: Let's say the chiefs are involved because people love to

668
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: whine about them. Yeah, and all of a sudden, they're

669
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: playing the bills and it looks like a first down

670
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: and here's the virtual measurement and it's not a first down.

671
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: You realize what people are gonna say. I think they're

672
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: gonna be more than there used to be.

673
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: Oh, there will be because again the assumption will be

674
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: now that we can't see the officials or I should say,

675
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: the on field members of the chain gang making the measurements,

676
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: and the officials and you know, and the striped shirts,

677
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: you know, handling the whole thing. It's gonna feel like

678
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 2: there's a back room somewhere and messages are being sent

679
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: by the league like we've already had some of those

680
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: people who would go that far with conspiracy theories circulate

681
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: around the NFL that you know, the head official has

682
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: an ear piece and he's getting directions where to spot the.

683
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 5: Ball at anytime there's instant replay and he goes into

684
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 5: the little pooth And that's my point.

685
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: Hey, Vegas calling, and that's my point. The instant replay

686
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: is anti sport. Is it dramatic sometimes, but it's anti sport.

687
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: Virtual chain gang or virtual measurement system, whatever they want

688
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: to call it, is anti sport. Look, I get it

689
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: as frustrating as it is to have a referee get

690
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: it wrong, or an official to get it wrong, or

691
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: an umpire to get it wrong, whether we're talking balls

692
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: and strikes in or out, goaltending or not a catch

693
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: or no catch. When you start putting more and more

694
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: technology overlaid onto something that's already good you, it doesn't

695
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: make you happier. My house has I don't know four

696
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: TVs in it. You know, we got one in the

697
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: living room.

698
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 6: You gotta step your game up, right.

699
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: We've got we've got one in two of the bedrooms.

700
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: We got one in a in a spare room. We've

701
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: got enough TVs. If I just started adding TVs and

702
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: adding TVs and adding TVs, eventually somebody would come over

703
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: our house and be like, what do you got so

704
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 2: many TVs? Technology? An over abundance or an over reliance

705
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: on television on technology isn't going to make something prettier.

706
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: In fact, it will eventually make it uglier. And I

707
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: think the NFL just took strides toward making their beautiful

708
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: game very ugly.

709
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, theft just quickly, the level of conspiracy will rival

710
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: the NBA Draft lottery.

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00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 6: I think that's right.

712
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing. They don't even do

713
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 4: it in front of us anymore.

714
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they do it.

715
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 5: But when I watched the draft lotter this year, because

716
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 5: I was so fascinated with the Mavericks thing, I still couldn't.

717
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 5: I watched it three times. I couldn't understand how they

718
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: did it, Like it was like numbers and weird things.

719
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 5: It's just crazy.

720
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 4: It's too much, too much, no good stuff.

721
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 6: All right.

722
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 3: We got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR.

723
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: Betting analyst, the owner of what ten TVs? I don't

724
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 4: know how many.

725
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: I have two in my office now. Actually I'm up

726
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: to five. I'm up to five now, and I have

727
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 5: a three bedroom house.

728
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, not that I like, I like, gotta

729
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: step your game up.

730
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: You have what I'm on TV?

731
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 6: Well, I'm only one person though.

732
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point right there. I'm Brian, though.

733
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

734
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see

735
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. And

736
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: be sure to subscribe to you always have instant access

737
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Coming up

738
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: next to parlay Platter, which have one selection for you.

739
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: I have Baseball NW a pix just in case, because

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00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 3: I need to know the mystery formula over mystery.

741
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 4: Theme we'll all find out.

742
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: Coming up with Parlay Platter here on Fox Sports Radio's

743
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: Countdown presented by Bet MGM.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

746
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

747
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: listen live.

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00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by Bett MGM.

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00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: No time to waste, let's dive right into this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out our late letter all right, we just.

751
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: Have one selection for you. We pull it together for

752
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: a greater payout. Jared, we start with you for the

753
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: theme and the first pick.

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00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: What do you have? Yeah, the theme. We'll go baseball

755
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 6: one more week.

756
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 5: We are close to people, We are close to light

757
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 5: at the end of the ball tunnel is approaching. I

758
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 5: think next week we'll have preseason games, we'll have futures,

759
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 5: We'll have a lot more ball to discuss. So this

760
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: will be the last week of our baseball. Let's let's

761
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: end the baseball platter on a winning note. It was

762
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: not a winning note last night for the New York Yankees.

763
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 5: They blue leads of six nothing, nine to four, and

764
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 5: twelve ten in the ninth inning, eventually lost to the Marlins,

765
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: gave up three in the ninety, lost thirteen twelve. The

766
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: new acquisition in the bullpen, bird Bednar and Dovall, the

767
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 5: law firm of Bird, Bednar and Dovaal, allowed nine earned

768
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: runs in two and a third Wolf I think they

769
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: bounced back tonight against the Marlins.

770
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 6: You get Cam Schlittler on the mound for New York, who's.

771
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 5: Been really good, in fact, so good that the Yankees

772
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 5: decided to release Marcus Stroman, who had been pitching very poorly,

773
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 5: and I think Schlitzler's gonna take that spot in the

774
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: rotation rate prays. On the other side, the Marlins have

775
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 5: been fisy. They're like a five hundred team this year.

776
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: But you don't get fair prices on the Yankees very often.

777
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: I think you're getting a fair price tonight. They're essentially

778
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: flat minus one ten. We'll go Yankees money line, first

779
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: leg of the platter.

780
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: Okay, give me the Cardinals tonight against the Padres. There

781
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: plus one twenty five here. Padres beat them for one yesterday.

782
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: But I like the pitching matchup for Saint Louis here,

783
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: Michael McGreevy on the mound going against a bunch of

784
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: well I mean, the Padres just rely heavily on right

785
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: handed bats. Machado Bogarts obviously having a hot season this year,

786
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: but that's a match if that favors the Cards. And

787
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: then just in general the Padres recent home vulnerabilities. It

788
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: feels like one error can lead to the next, can

789
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: lead to the next. If the Cardinals play consistent, which

790
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: I think they will with good starting pitching today, I

791
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 2: think they can carry this one. So give me the cards,

792
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: give me the cards on the money line.

793
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: Wow, look at you fading your padres. I love this

794
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: selection by you there, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now would you guys?

795
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: Would you like plus one fifteen? Juice? I like this pick?

796
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: I like that.

797
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: Would you like to get a little riskier? And I

798
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: still like it? Don't love it as much as the original?

799
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: But plus one fifty I'm crazy.

800
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 5: I mean right now, I'll give you this right now,

801
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 5: based off of the pick you gave me in the text,

802
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 5: and Rich's play and my play and a twenty five

803
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 5: percent odds boost available that I'm jem.

804
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 6: Today we're at ten to one on this part.

805
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: Hey, ooh, that's that's pretty good.

806
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 6: It's pretty good for three legger.

807
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 5: You know.

808
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 3: The devil on my shoulders says higher, what it could

809
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: be better?

810
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 6: I can always get you better.

811
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll give you plus one fifteen. I do like

812
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: this big.

813
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: Give me Zach Wheeler, Philly stud pitcher over eight and

814
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: a half strikeouts against the the Tigers today, So I'd

815
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: said plus one fifteen. And the reasons are, Zach Wheeler

816
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: is a strikeout artist. It's got the second most strikeouts

817
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball.

818
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: And you look at the Tigers. They strike out a

819
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: lot as a team.

820
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: They're bottom five in MLB, So I like, I like

821
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Wheeler to get to over eight and a half strikeouts.

822
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: Today, I see him.

823
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: I could see him get to double digits as well.

824
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 3: So plus one fifteen getting to nine k's, I'll sign.

825
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Up for that.

826
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: Not bad.

827
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 5: Ten to one on a nice little twenty five percent booze.

828
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 4: I tend to one, very nice, all right?

829
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: Coming up next, dropping F bombs would never happen in

830
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: this league. Oh, what's going on? Happy Saturday to you?

831
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: This would not be happening in the NFL. We'll get

832
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: to that in just a couple of seconds. Hey, be

833
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: sure to check out Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

834
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports.

835
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of

836
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: video highlights from our shows. And be sure to subscribe

837
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: to you always have instant access to our Fox Sports

838
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: Radio videos on YouTube. Okay, so a story from earlier

839
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: this week is so good we have to chop it

840
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: up here real fast. So I'm just gonna read the

841
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: first sentence from an ESPN article here, and it just

842
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: simply reads, Philadelphia Phillies star Bryce Harper stood nose to

843
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: nose with Rob Manfred during a meeting between the Major

844
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 3: League Baseball Commissioner and the team last week, telling him

845
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: to get the f out of our clubhouse. If Manfred

846
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about the potential implementation of a salary cap.

847
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 5: HM.

848
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

849
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 3: Now the first thing I thought of was this, This

850
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 3: would not happen in the NFL. Not only does Roger

851
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: Goodell look a little bit more physically a lot more

852
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 3: physically imposing than Rob Manfred does, There's no way this

853
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: would go down. Like, imagine walk in a world for

854
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: a second. If all things are equal, there's no salary

855
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: cap in the NFL. Roger Goodell, the commission is in

856
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: a locker room of some random NFL team and one

857
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: of the stars gets nose to nose with Goodell and says,

858
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: get the f out of our of our locker room.

859
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: If you're talking about a salary cap over here.

860
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 3: Would not happen, And if it did happen, the team

861
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 3: owners in the NFL would be outraged. They would be living.

862
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: There's no way that would happen in the NFL. It

863
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: happens in Major League Baseball. I just that's the first

864
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: thing I thought of, was the team owners in the

865
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: NFL must look at the team owners in MLB like,

866
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: you guys are a bunch of pushovers.

867
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: Have no stones, you have no power. You're just letting

868
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: the players dictate.

869
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: Oh, no salary, kept no, not happening, and you're just like, Okay, I.

870
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 4: Guess I'll forget that.

871
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: What do you do?

872
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: Like That's how team owners in the NFL must look

873
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: at MLB team owners, because they do not get pushed

874
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: around in the NFL the same way MLB team owners do.

875
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: It happens time and time again.

876
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't necessarily look at Major League Baseball owners

877
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: as pushovers, more as they are contractually obligated to negotiate

878
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: with a stronger entity. Yeah, I mean, if we're really,

879
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: if we're really gonna look at this in terms of

880
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: like strength on strength, weakness on weakness, the MLB union

881
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: is just stronger than the NFL union. So the players

882
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, like Bryce Harper is a perfect example,

883
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: they last a lot longer. So that means they've gone

884
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: through multiple contracts, and they've been through trades, and they've

885
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 2: seen friends of theirs done dirty by organizations, and they've

886
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: seen injuries not be compensated for and they've seen all

887
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: of the slings and arrows that a worker oftentimes has

888
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: to go through when they're dealing with an owner, right,

889
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean, and that is a shared experience. Most people

890
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: don't own businesses. Most people are employees of a larger

891
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: group or of a larger business, right, you know, whether

892
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: it's corporate, small business, regional, whatever you work for. Typically

893
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: that's the majority of people work in this country. So

894
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: this is a shared experience. It's a lot, it's a lot.

895
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: There's a lot of difficulties being a business owner, and

896
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that go into it that

897
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: are far more nuanced than I think gets discussed. And

898
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot of risk that these owners take. But

899
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: I will say this, the side represented here by Bryce

900
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: Harper is the side that I often share with people

901
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: when they hear and get things and they say, I mean,

902
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: you know, that's no way to talk to somebody, you know,

903
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: these greedy players this and that. It's like, well, hang on,

904
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: let's do a quick time out. Where does that animis

905
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: come from. It comes from the fact that for Bryce Harper,

906
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: he even though he's a rich player, and he will

907
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: never have to work a day in his life, if

908
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to. He's not saying that for himself.

909
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: He's saying that for all the other guys. He's saying

910
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: it for Yes, in factors it matters. It'll limit his

911
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: earning potential. But Bryce Harper could lay his bat down

912
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: today and generations of his family will feel his wealth forever.

913
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you can almost not pan out far enough

914
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: to see where the money will run out if they

915
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: handle it and manage it appropriately. So this isn't an

916
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 2: argument for Bryce. Bryce's argument for the body of players

917
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 2: that he helps represent. And so I don't look at

918
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: the owners in that Major League Baseball and I say, oh, man,

919
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: they're really weak. I flip it around and I say, wow,

920
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: that's a really strong union. And when workers stick up

921
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: for themselves that's what it looks like. Then then you

922
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: can actually have some meaningful change or more fair working

923
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: circumstances for people who are showing up for jobs every day,

924
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: whether they're swinging bats for a living or swinging hammers.

925
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate what he did there in that locker room setting.

926
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think.

927
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 5: I think my hunch is that the headline was a

928
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: bit overblown for click baity reasons, like the way that

929
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 5: the headline made it seem is that Manford's trying to

930
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 5: like bust into the clubhouse and Harper's sitting there with

931
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 5: like two bats.

932
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: Like cross you know, like nose to those like you will.

933
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 5: What's the scene in Lord of the Rings Thou Shalt

934
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 5: Not pass Like?

935
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 6: That's how it was laid out.

936
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: And then Manford spoke to reporters yesterday after he announced

937
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 5: the All Star Game was going to be at Wrigley

938
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: in twenty seven, and he got asked about this specie

939
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 5: topic and the quote was much more timid. It was,

940
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 5: you know, I don't talk about these player meetings. Bryce

941
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 5: expressed his views. At the end of the meeting, we

942
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 5: shook hands, went our separate ways. Not all that significant

943
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 5: like it, And again maybe he's down playing it. But

944
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 5: if you take both sides of this, where you see

945
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 5: the initial story, which was jarring nose to nose f

946
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: bombs being dropped, and then you hear Manford's response yesterday,

947
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 5: you can kind of understand why maybe this isn't as

948
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 5: big of a story as it should be. Here's the

949
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 5: also kicker that I would say, in my opinion, and

950
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 5: I've never again, I'm not a professional athlete. I've never

951
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 5: been in these clubhouses besides being a media reporter, and

952
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 5: they take this stuff really so I once got kicked

953
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 5: out of a clubhouse because I took my phone out,

954
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 5: like you can't. It's it's like sacred space in those clubhouses,

955
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 5: and from Major League Baseball, I don't think discussing those

956
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: types of things in a baseball clubhouse is the right

957
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 5: at sphere for it. Like it's just not like that's

958
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 5: the player's space they're getting ready for the game. I

959
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 5: don't think Manford coming in and having these high level

960
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 5: discussions about salary caps is really appropriate for the clubhouse.

961
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 5: So I understand why Bryce is like, hey, listen, like

962
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 5: this isn't really the right time or space for it.

963
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: Like let's set up a meeting and we'll have our

964
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 5: people call your people and let's figure it out. I

965
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 5: think it was a little bit of an over exaggerated,

966
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 5: over sensationalized headline, which led to, of course the wow factor.

967
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: And now I think you're getting a little bit of

968
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 5: the walking back and a little more of the cooler

969
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: heads prevailing.

970
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't see it that way. I

971
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: think that you get heated. That's why you drop an

972
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: F bomb. That's why your nose to nose in the

973
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: first place. Maybe after it, cooler heads prevail, but in

974
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: the moment it's absolutely heated.

975
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 4: And I still contind that wouldn't happened in the NFL.

976
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 4: It wouldn't.

977
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: And this idea that well, it's just the players union

978
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: is stronger in MLB, It's like, well, how did that happen.

979
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 3: It's because the MLB team owner allowed it to happen.

980
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: I'll put it this way. If you just like did

981
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: role reversal and you're like, all right, NFL team owners,

982
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: now your MLB team owners.

983
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 4: They would not be like, oh, no salary cap, that's fine.

984
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: We'll just deal with it. I guess like, no chance

985
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: that would happen. And even though they're absolutely fighting the

986
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: stronger union, they would push them around. They would throw

987
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: their weight around way more than these MLB team owners do.

988
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: They get pushed around.

989
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we look at the NFL being the juggernaut

990
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: it is, and we forget, like you think about the

991
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: ninety four lockout right in MLB. Shortly before that, eighty

992
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: seven in the NFL, there's a strike, the players Association

993
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 3: was striking. There were replacement players there's scabs. The team

994
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: owners are like, ye, I was bringing these replacement guys.

995
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: We don't need you, Like that's how seeing.

996
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but these billionaire owners are willing to wait out

997
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: millionaire players.

998
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: I mean that is also like completely denying the fact

999
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: that some of those scabs were actual players who were

1000
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: under contract. Like the owners in the NFL were able

1001
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: to flip some of the players. And by the way,

1002
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: they were looked at as villains, Yeah, in the locker

1003
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: room after they crossed the picket line and they went

1004
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 2: to work for the NFL owners. And that's the point

1005
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make.

1006
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 4: But that's the position they put them in.

1007
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: Well, and it's the point I'm trying to make. The

1008
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: careers are much shorter for NFL players. It is a

1009
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: much higher turnover in terms of in terms of participation

1010
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: in the sport. So that is a lot less of

1011
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 2: a time to indoctrinate players into Hey, this is the

1012
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: wars we've been through as a body, as an entity,

1013
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: as a union against these NFL owners in order to

1014
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: get some of the compensations some of the rule changes

1015
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: that benefit players, like practice schedules and things like that,

1016
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: you know, workplace environment, upkeep like, there were a lot

1017
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: lot of things that the players in the eighties were

1018
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: fighting for that players of the two thousands and twenty

1019
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: twenties benefit from. Now you know and trust me, I

1020
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: was involved in during my six year career a labor

1021
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 2: action against the players. It was a lockout that led

1022
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: to an unprecedentedly long ten year labor agreement between the

1023
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: NFL players and owners where the NFL players got mopped up.

1024
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: And again it wasn't because of the strength of the

1025
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: ownership so much as the weakness of the players. There

1026
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: were so many guys who needed a game check in

1027
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: order to keep the lights on. We had a war chest,

1028
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: by the way, and there are already guys who were

1029
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: getting antsy about the season not being played out. It's

1030
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: just different in Major League Baseball. They've fought for more,

1031
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: they've gotten more, and part of the reason is because

1032
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 2: they've always been paid more. It's a smaller group of players,

1033
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: it's easier to organize the type of actions that they've

1034
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: taken against Major League Baseball owners. And also when you

1035
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: have a players with longer careers, there's a little bit

1036
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: less of a risk for them to take labor action

1037
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: against the owners than vice versa, because players will take

1038
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: care of each other, you know what I mean. Like

1039
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: you'll have a player who's got a little bit more

1040
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: on his plate, he may kick him to the kiddy

1041
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: to make sure that they stay strong in the end.

1042
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible to do in the NFL. So you

1043
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: can look at it as saying like the NFL's got

1044
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: these stronger owners, But the truth is those owners would

1045
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: cave just as fast if you add it as strong

1046
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: or stronger a union as you do in baseball. It's

1047
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 2: just let's put it this way. The players are shown

1048
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: up to a gunfight with knives in the NFL. That

1049
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: is how it goes every time they sit down at

1050
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: the collective bargaining agreement table.

1051
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this the salar cap in baseball is

1052
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 5: never happening. I just don't think it's happening. I think

1053
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 5: there's too much There's too much sewage to clean out

1054
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 5: from the drains. I mean, you would it would take

1055
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 5: years to turn that battleship around. Think about how big

1056
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 5: of a gap there is between and I can maybe

1057
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 5: pull it up really quick between the Dodgers and the Mets,

1058
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 5: cy the Padres and the rest of these teams, like,

1059
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 5: let me see if I can find track.

1060
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 4: I've got something for it.

1061
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 5: I've got it up right now, four hundred and six

1062
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 5: The Dodgers payroll their tax payroll this year four hundred

1063
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 5: and six million dollars, the Marlins eighty five million.

1064
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 6: Like that.

1065
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 5: You're not closing that gap anytime soon. It will take

1066
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 5: decades to close that gap. There are players. How much

1067
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 5: does Otani do over the next like fifteen years? Like

1068
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 5: it just I just don't think you can turn that

1069
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 5: ship around. I think that ship has sailed and we

1070
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 5: just need some kind of a way to I don't

1071
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: want to say apron because that word's been you know,

1072
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 5: beat the crap over the last few years with the NBA.

1073
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 5: But we need some kind of a mesh, a net,

1074
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 5: a safety net where you can't go below a certain level.

1075
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 6: And that's the key to the salary cap.

1076
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 5: I don't want to here any more discussions about a

1077
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 5: salary cap until we talk about a salary floor. Because

1078
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: if you're gonna cap teams like the Dodgers and the

1079
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 5: Mets and the Yankees from spending, you have to force

1080
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 5: teams like the White Sox and the Rays and the

1081
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 5: Marlins and the pirates to spend up to a certain point,

1082
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 5: you have to close the gap. It's not a cap,

1083
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 5: it's a gap. That's the issue we have in baseball

1084
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 5: right now. And that gap between the haves and the

1085
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 5: have nots is so wide. I just don't know if

1086
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 5: there's a feasible way to close it.

1087
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, hey, that's the thing is, I

1088
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: think MLB desperately needs a salary cap, and I get

1089
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: that the players are gonna greatly push back and these

1090
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: pushovers are gonna let them push them.

1091
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: Around, because that's the whole point here.

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00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 3: They're gonna allow it, you know, And that's where you're

1093
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: probably right, Jared. We're probably not gonna get that because

1094
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: I just don't have faith that the MLB team owners

1095
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: are gonna stand their ground and wait out the millionaires.

1096
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna be like, I've got billions, but they're probably

1097
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: not gonna so okay. I mean that's essentially how it's

1098
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: gonna play out, and that's why it's gonna be. Like

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00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: I get these players. I think it gets twisted. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we definitely differ on salary caps and MLB. I think

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00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: it's sorely needed. You got one hundred and sixty two

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00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: game season, and you have the haves and have nots,

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00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 3: and it's like the Grand Canyon size difference between those

1104
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 3: and half of it is their own fault.

1105
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 4: Some of these teams just won't pay. And I agree,

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00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: you got to have a salary floor, not just a salary.

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00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: Cap, and that's the reason why it won't happen.

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00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's.

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00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: But there take a lot of these teams at the bottom,

1110
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: like the Pittsburgh Pirates. We always talk about them, and

1111
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 3: they're just an embarrassment. They won't build around Paul's schemes.

1112
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: It's just it's terrible. But like they probably look at

1113
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: it and say, Okay, the landscape being what it is

1114
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: right now, yeah, we could pay a little bit more

1115
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: to get another outfielder or another arm or what have you.

1116
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: But what's that really gonna do for us when there's

1117
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 3: no salary cap. And that's a legitimate question, right, Like,

1118
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 3: it's not gonna get us anywhere far in the playoffs.

1119
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, they're gonna put that money.

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Speaker 3: In their their pockets and their seat cushions, which is lame,

1121
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: but that's the thought process. If the thought process becomes hey,

1122
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: with a salary cap. If we get another arm and

1123
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: we get an outfielder or an infielder, whatever we actually need,

1124
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: and we can have a legitimate shot at making serious noise,

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00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: well that changes the equation completely. But right now, with

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00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: no salary cap, that's not the situation. So this idea

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00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: that it would just remain as is. I completely disagree

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: with that, and these players are going to push back

1129
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 3: on it, and I get it, but it's not like

1130
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: they're gonna make a dollar ninety five all of a

1131
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: sudden because there's a salary cap. What's gonna happen is

1132
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: you're just not gonna have the halves be able to

1133
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: stockpile as much talent.

1134
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 4: That's it.

1135
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: So you're making that same money or very similar to

1136
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: the same money with a different address. You're just not

1137
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: on a tea that has star after star after star.

1138
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: That's what would happen. It would be more widespread talent

1139
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: around the league. I would be great for the league,

1140
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: but it's probably not gonna happen in MLB.

1141
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the parody relies on talent distribution, and talent

1142
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: distribution relies on scouting and development. I mean, you can't

1143
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: convince me otherwise. There are plenty of teams that spend

1144
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: a lot of money in Major League Baseball who don't

1145
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: win World Series. Just because there's been a recent rash

1146
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: of heavy payroll teams who have one doesn't convince me

1147
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: that this is now the ultimate reason. And also imagine

1148
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: the lack of creativity that the owners who are supposed

1149
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: to be these insanely intelligent businessmen. The only reason why

1150
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: they could perceive why there's a lack of parody in

1151
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: terms of payroll at the top of baseball is becau

1152
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: is just because of or i should say parody at

1153
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: the top of baseball in terms of petition is just payroll,

1154
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: Like that's the only reason. You can't think of one

1155
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: other reason, not one. It's it's to me, it's it's

1156
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: a lot of bluster. It's just a lot of Hey,

1157
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to spoon feed this time and

1158
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: time and time again to these fans at a nauseating level,

1159
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: and eventually we'll flip them. We'll get them to go

1160
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: against these millionaires. Meanwhile, you're talking about billionaires. You're talking

1161
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: about people who are signing the checks for these millionaires,

1162
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: who are the ones complaining about the money being inequal

1163
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: in baseball. It is so bizarre to hear a group

1164
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: of thirty billionaires say, yeah, here's the problem. We're paying

1165
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: them too much money. Like what what that's the problem? No,

1166
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: that isn't the problem. The problem is you got a

1167
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: bunch of chumps in the room who don't actually want

1168
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: to kick into the kiddy and step up to the

1169
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: plate and pay for stars. So either get richer owners

1170
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: or get out of the room. That's it, you know.

1171
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: So okay, say you're the the Rockies, or say you're

1172
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Rays, or say you're the Oakland A's

1173
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: who you know? I mean that city kicked them into

1174
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: a minor league ballpark while Vegas doesn't even want them.

1175
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: You know, Like, say you're one of these teams who

1176
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: don't spend and you're sitting in this room and you're

1177
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: listening to these conversations about, yeah, we need a salary cap.

1178
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: Those guys are shaking in their boots because they know

1179
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: what the players are gonna do. The players are gonna

1180
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: come to the table, is you want a cap. That

1181
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: cap is going to be sky and you want it

1182
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: to be you want it to be equitable. That CAP's

1183
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: got to be sky high and guess what. A salary

1184
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: floor has got to be up to ninety percent of

1185
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 2: that cap. All those owners who don't pay right now,

1186
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: they just lost their teams. So this is never gonna happen.

1187
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with the players greed. It

1188
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: has everything to do with the owners greed, Brian. And

1189
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: it's not gonna make the game more competitive. It absolute,

1190
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: at least, that's.

1191
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,479
Speaker 4: The part where you lose me. That makes zero sense.

1192
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: This idea that you give the Pirates, the the Marlins

1193
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 3: a four hundred million dollars payroll and it's not gonna

1194
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: make any difference.

1195
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.

1196
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: It makes explain to me how teams with lower payrolls

1197
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: even make the postseason, even make deep runs. Talent acquisition

1198
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: and player development is more important than payroll. It just is.

1199
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: It always has been in baseball. It always has been.

1200
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: You can go through all of the playoff runs over time,

1201
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: and you can see time and time again, big market

1202
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: teams like the Mets who can't compete with small market

1203
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: teams like the Rays. It happens all the time. They spend,

1204
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 2: and they spend, and they spend, they still can't figure

1205
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: out they're trying to spend their way out of the

1206
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: mouse trap, and they put themselves right back in it.

1207
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: You can look at it both ways. We could play

1208
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 3: tennis all day long. How many years did the Yankees

1209
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 3: win big because they're out spending everyone. This idea that

1210
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: spending doesn't matter is lunis. But also, I'm not saying

1211
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: that's the only thing that matters. You're putting words in

1212
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: my mouth. But to act like it doesn't matter at

1213
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: all is crazy. Like you lose the point when you are.

1214
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, no, no, that's I don't lose the

1215
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: point because you're arguing it from one side of that point.

1216
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: You're saying it's just the salary cap and the that's

1217
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: what you're saying.

1218
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1219
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it makes

1220
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 3: a huge difference. I'm not saying it makes the only difference.

1221
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: That's what you're interpreting.

1222
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well, and well here's what I'm saying. I'm

1223
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: saying that if you that's not your only point, that's

1224
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: just your biggest point. Here's what I'm saying. You need

1225
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: richer owners then, so if you think that money is

1226
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: going to solve baseball, then fire the owners who don't

1227
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: spend and then fix it by bringing in more money

1228
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: into baseball. So if you think that money is going

1229
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: to solve baseball, get the richest people in the world

1230
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: to compete against each other and have a big, you know,

1231
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: your nation contest over the amount of money they're paying

1232
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: their players, just like they do in the EPL and

1233
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: Premier League and all that. And then you'll have the

1234
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: same system and then move to a system of relegation,

1235
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, you can make competitive

1236
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: changes and keep the same structure in place where players

1237
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: aren't capped, and you can make a better sport. You

1238
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: need richer owners, you don't need a salary cap. And

1239
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of guys, like I said in that

1240
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: room amid those thirty owners, who they hear salary cap

1241
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: and they go no, no, no, no, no, no. This is

1242
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 2: a bad idea. This is a bad idea because they

1243
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: know what the counter is going to be. The volley

1244
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: back over the net is going to be we need

1245
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: a salary floor, and that is going to lead to

1246
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: owners being cast out of Major League Baseball forever.

1247
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Speaker 5: That's the only addition I'll make to this, because I

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Speaker 5: love watching and listening to you guys far like Tyson

1249
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Speaker 5: and Holyfield the salary floor. If that's not part of

1250
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 5: this equation, non starter, complete non starter.

1251
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Speaker 2: For me, all right.

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Speaker 2: Is it enough? Going back, fam On Gone, It's gone.

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Speaker 2: Gotta be kidding me. Brendon Doyle with a two run

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Speaker 2: home run. The Rockies had come all the way back

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Speaker 3: imagine having money on the Pirates? They scored nine ones

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Speaker 2: He had the.

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Speaker 3: Pirates winning is about plus one point eighty and that

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Speaker 3: was an l because the Rockies came all the way back,

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01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,440
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Speaker 4: Man, that's that's wild right there. Yeah, Okay, ball on

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Speaker 4: the brain. Still.

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Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about Terry McLaurin the Washington

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Speaker 3: Commander's wide receiver. He requested a trade not one of us.

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Speaker 3: We can't agree on this show. We all agree he's

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Speaker 3: not going anywhere. He'll get his new deal, He'll be

1294
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: there with Washing. But I can't help but think, even

1295
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: though we fully expect Terry McLaurin to be back, I

1296
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: can't help but think about the differences between two second

1297
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: year players. That would be Jaden Daniels, the Commander's quarterback,

1298
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: and Bears quarterback Caleb Williams. Look at the bells and

1299
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: whistles that Caleb Williams has around him supporting cast offensively

1300
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 3: compared to what is I wouldn't go bear bones with Washington.

1301
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 3: But it's not the same amount of bells and whistles,

1302
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: right if you look what's around Caleb Williams. So he's

1303
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 3: got DJ Moore. The Bears made that trade a year

1304
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: before Caleb Williams got there, right, good wide receiver. They

1305
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 3: also drafted Roma Doonza in the top ten. They drafted

1306
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: tight end Colston Loveland with a top ten pick. They

1307
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: went out and they got Luther Burden, your guy, Jared,

1308
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 3: you love Luther Burden out of Missouri second round.

1309
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 6: Really, we made a lot of money on him in college.

1310
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 4: He did Bears.

1311
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: They got three new interior offensive linemen. They had all

1312
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: these sack issues, so they try to strengthen the interior

1313
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 3: offensive line. It's just here you go, Caleb, here you go.

1314
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: Here's more, here's more, Caleb. You need it, here's more Caleb.

1315
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: The Bears are going all out for Caleb Williams. Meanwhile,

1316
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: you look at what Washington is doing doing you gotta

1317
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: squint a little bit, like doing around Jaden Daniels. So

1318
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 3: they picked up Deebo Samuel Okay, and they traded for

1319
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: Laramie Tunzell. Now, I don't want to make that sound

1320
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: like it's nothing, because it's not. Laramie Tunzell could help

1321
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 3: out that offensive line quite a bit, but Debo is

1322
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: banged up all the time. They drafted a fourth round receiver,

1323
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: Jalen Lynn out of Virginia Tech. That's that's the list.

1324
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: They lost a couple of guys in free agency. It's like,

1325
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: the Commanders remind me a lot more of the Bills.

1326
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 3: You know, the Bills look at Josh Allen and they're like,

1327
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 3: you're a stud man, just cook.

1328
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 6: You know.

1329
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't have bells and whistles around him like crazy.

1330
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 3: And that's what I think the Washington Commanders are like,

1331
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 3: right now, you could compare Washington's supporting cast to a

1332
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 3: lot of others in the NFL and it just doesn't

1333
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: stack up, and the Bears make it. I think that's

1334
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 3: the best comparison because both those quarterbacks went one and

1335
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 3: two and last year's draft right and I think the

1336
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,879
Speaker 3: supporting casts are much different.

1337
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they were obviously at different points

1338
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: in their rebuild. I think the Commanders, I think we're

1339
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: a little bit further behind the eight ball than the

1340
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: Bears were. But that's okay because when you have a

1341
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: special quarterback, you can still get special things done, but

1342
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: what you need to count on is his health and durability.

1343
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: So in the interim, you got to find a way

1344
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: to keep Jaden Daniels safe. Now, Kayleb Williams and Jade

1345
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: and Daniels both have this in common. They have a scapability.

1346
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: They have an ability to get away from danger, but

1347
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 2: that also can get them into danger. So the Ravens

1348
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: overall with mobile quarterbacks, have had some good fortune. With

1349
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, he's been injured, but not as often as

1350
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: you'd think a hyper mobile quarterback would be because he's

1351
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: such a freak athlete, it's hard to get a clean

1352
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: shot on him. And then just in general, his durability

1353
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: has been pretty good. He's had some ankle issues, he's

1354
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: had obviously some dinks and bangs on the fenders, but

1355
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: overall pretty healthy guy. That's the goal. Keep the guy safe,

1356
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: keep the guy healthy. You know, you don't want a

1357
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: situation like the Colts where you draft Andrew Luck and

1358
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: he's a generational talent, but you can't protect him for

1359
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: the first five years of his career and he has

1360
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: to you know, sort of extinguish the candle when he

1361
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 2: gets over the hump of thirty. I mean, you have

1362
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: some of these players like Brady and Rogers playing into

1363
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: their forties. Andrew was so banged up by the time

1364
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: he reached thirty he couldn't do it anymore. The wheels

1365
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: were literally falling off. So that is going to be

1366
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: the key. Roster construction is important. But the most important

1367
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: thing is you got to protect these quarterbacks, so investing

1368
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: in the offensive line and having constant conversations with them

1369
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: about self preservation. I fear quarterbacks like you know, Luck,

1370
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: like Herbert another example of a guy who's gotten banged

1371
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: up a lot early in his career. Even though they're

1372
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: super talents, they could end up having much shorter careers

1373
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: because that one key factor in my mind, when you

1374
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: have a great quarterback is fundamental. That guy has to

1375
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: stay safe for anybody have a chance in that organization.

1376
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really like what Washington did in the draft.

1377
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 5: You know, he took Connorly offensive lineman with their first pick.

1378
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 5: The Bears went more on the offensive skill position side.

1379
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 6: Right, No one expected them to take Louvelin tenth.

1380
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 5: Overall, everyone was thinking maybe Tyler Warren, maybe a running

1381
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 5: back in that spot, and then they went Burton, as

1382
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 5: you mentioned, Brian with that second round pick, who I love.

1383
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 6: The Washington situation is interesting this year.

1384
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 5: So I'm pretty much done with all of my win

1385
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 5: total projections for the year. I haven't bet all of

1386
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 5: these yet, but I definitely have the projections where I'm

1387
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 5: leaning in each direction.

1388
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,839
Speaker 6: I'm a strong under on the Bears.

1389
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 5: I've got the Bears projected for seven and a half wins,

1390
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 5: their win totals eight and a half. Actually, that's one

1391
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 5: of the ones i've already bet, is eight and a

1392
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 5: half to the under on Chicago. I just think we're

1393
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 5: at that point with the Bears, and I might be

1394
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 5: there with Washington too, but not quite as much.

1395
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 6: We'll get to Washington in a second.

1396
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 5: But with the Bears, I just think the hype is

1397
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 5: so real that there's nowhere to go but under And

1398
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 5: I don't love their schedule. They play at a net

1399
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 5: rest disadvantage in more games than that they're an advantage in.

1400
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 5: And I think that first game, that Week one game

1401
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 5: against Minnesota is a trap. I mean they're favored in

1402
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 5: that game. The Vikings have the better roster. I think

1403
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 5: they're more experienced. First game for Ben Johnson and Caleb

1404
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 5: Williams together, and you got to face Flores and that

1405
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 5: blitzing defense on Monday Night eighty. I mean that's a

1406
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 5: tough spot. And then they go to Detroit in Week

1407
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 5: two on a short week after playing on Monday night.

1408
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 5: I think the Bears might start ozing two Washington in

1409
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 5: a different boat. You get that cupcake Week one against

1410
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 5: the Giants, everyone expects them to win that game. Then

1411
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 5: their short week Green Bay Thursday night the following week.

1412
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 5: That's a tough game. But then Vegas Atlanta Chargers Bears

1413
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 5: at home. Like I think Washington has a chance to

1414
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 5: start five and one, four and two, and then the

1415
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 5: schedule toughens from there. Right, they have to play Kansas

1416
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 5: City on a Monday night on the road, and then

1417
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 5: they get Philly late on a Saturday. They played that

1418
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 5: to pay Philly twice in the last three weeks of

1419
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 5: the year.

1420
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 6: That's tough. That's real tough.

1421
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 5: So I'm I think I'm a little bit more neutral

1422
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 5: on Washington. I think I have them projected for nine

1423
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 5: point eight wins and their win totals nine and a half.

1424
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 5: The reason why I'm not gonna run to the window

1425
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 5: to bet the overs because their win total last year

1426
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 5: was like five and they went way over and now

1427
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 5: they're being projected to be a ten win team essentially,

1428
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 5: And I think I don't I don't think sophomore slump

1429
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 5: for Jade Daniels, but I definitely think we're in that

1430
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 5: range of maybe the price got moved up a little

1431
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 5: bit too high and there's not as much value to

1432
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 5: the over for Washington to exceed expectations this year because

1433
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 5: those expectations are very high.

1434
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, And I think, man, some of the comparisons

1435
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: between teams, if you look at you know, where Jaydon Daniels,

1436
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: he and he's not gonna say this at all, but

1437
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 3: he could go home and kind of look at the

1438
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: roster at night and be like, man, we're dragging our

1439
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 3: heels to pay Terry McLaurin, and like, what else do

1440
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 3: we have? Like you have debo and but it's not

1441
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: it doesn't stack up with some of the top teams

1442
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 3: and what they have around their quarterback. We talk about

1443
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: Philly all the time. Look at the supporting cast for

1444
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. My gosh, he's got everything. He got the

1445
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: best offensive line in football. You've got aj Brown, DeVante Smith,

1446
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard to throw to in this guy named Saquan

1447
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 3: in the backfield.

1448
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 4: That's pretty freaking good, you know what I mean.

1449
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: Look at Cincy like they've got Jama Jamar Chase and

1450
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 3: they backed up the brinkstruck for t Higgins. They paid

1451
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 3: their number two receiver huge money, and Washington doesn't even

1452
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,799
Speaker 3: want to play their pay their number one guy huge money.

1453
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 3: Kansas City. Listen, Mahome's got a lot around him. When

1454
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: you have Rashie Rice, he's going to be suspended for

1455
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: a number of games. But you got Rashi Rice, You've

1456
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 3: got Hollywood Brown, You've got Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelce. That's

1457
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: pretty good in terms of weapons to throw to. I

1458
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: just can't help but look at Washington Sideways, where you

1459
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: got to build upon this stud rookie season, not take

1460
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: a step back. I don't know why you're dragging your

1461
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,520
Speaker 3: heels as much when it comes to paying Terry McLaurin.

1462
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 3: What's the alternative? What are you doing outside of not

1463
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: paying him? You have to and now he has leverage

1464
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 3: and he's exercising it. But you have to do that,

1465
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 3: and the commanders are like putting it off. It's like,

1466
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: this is the only decision you can make right now.

1467
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: Well, of course, I mean they know it, we know it,

1468
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: and it's just a matter of when this deal is

1469
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: going to get done. Brian, I don't think anybody in

1470
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: this room or most people listening to us right now,

1471
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:59,839
Speaker 2: think that mclaurin's going anywhere, because they've clearly invested bringing debo.

1472
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: Obviously they had a sudden retirement on the offensive line,

1473
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: but trying to shore up that gap. They're in win

1474
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: now mode and they're aware of it because they have

1475
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 2: a window with a more veteran heavy team then for example,

1476
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: the team you're using as comparison the Chicago Bears, who

1477
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 2: have much more reliance on rookie talent and a younger

1478
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: roster in a lot of places, and more controllable contracts

1479
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: than the Washington Commanders have. You know, the Commanders are

1480
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: in that situation where you know, a lot of these

1481
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: checks are going to come do and so they've they've

1482
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: got to kind of make it all all all the

1483
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: pieces fit before those before those bills come due. And

1484
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: so I think they signed McLaurin to an extension. I

1485
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 2: think it's going to be front loaded. I think it's

1486
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: going to be putting as stuffing as many dollar bills

1487
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 2: in his pocket to make them quiet and happy to

1488
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: play for them for a couple of years with you know,

1489
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: and and regardless of contract length, there's going to be

1490
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: some sincere out for the ownership for the team. It's

1491
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: going to be more team friendly on the back end

1492
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: of this contract because, like I said, I think they're

1493
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: in win now mode. Jayden Daniels is going to be

1494
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,480
Speaker 2: a part of the rebuild. Caleb Williams was the rebuild.

1495
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: That's the difference between the Commanders and the Bears in

1496
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 2: my mind.

1497
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, the problem that the Commanders have real quick is

1498
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 5: they play nine games this year against teams expected to

1499
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 5: win eight and a half or more.

1500
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 6: Six of those nine are on the road.

1501
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 5: Green Bay Chargers, Chiefs, Dolphins, Vikings Eagles. They were eight

1502
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 5: and four and one score games last year against a

1503
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Speaker 5: That's the most successful fourth down conversion rate in NFL history.

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Speaker 5: I think, as good as Jayden Daniels is, it will

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what would help is talent la round him. Yeah,

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 3: absolutely help. But they're dragging their heels to even do that.

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 3: It's wild to me, but here we are. McLaurin isn't

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Speaker 3: Look at look at Tampa. Tapa's got Mike Evans, Chris Godwin,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like they got a lot

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Speaker 3: Washington they seem like, let's focus on the defense. Jaden's

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Speaker 3: he's special, you know, what does he need? That's not

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it too. You know who else I love? Today? J? T?

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Speaker 6: Gin Who is JT. Ginn?

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Speaker 5: The starting pitcher for the Athletics today they are facing

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Speaker 5: the Diamondbacks. So gin tail of two seasons earlier this

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01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,880
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Speaker 6: Two a little low and then six.

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Speaker 5: Then he got hurt, missed the month with injury, came back,

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Speaker 5: him out fifty eight and seventy seven pitches in his

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Speaker 5: first two starts against Texas and Houston. Good offensive today

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Speaker 5: gets the Diamondbacks. So just had a fire sale, right,

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Speaker 5: They dealt Suarez, they dealt Nailer. So vibes are low

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 5: in the desert, but strikeouts hopefully high over four and

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Speaker 5: be Arizona's first look at Gin. I think that is

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Speaker 5: advantage pitcher over four and a half case very reasonably

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Speaker 5: price minus one oh five at that mgm okay.

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Speaker 2: Pirates drew the Rockies today and Paul sk Ians is

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01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: on the mound for the Bucos. He's averaging nearly ten

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01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: strikeouts for nine innings, so I'm also taking an over

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01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: pitcher strikeouts. He has to clear six and a half

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01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: and I think Paul Skins does. He's recently fanned nine

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01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 2: against the d Backs. Also, the Rockies ranked near the

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01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 2: bottom in Major League Baseball and strikeouts at a twenty

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01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: six percent clip. This is a dream matchup for the Pirates.

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01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: It's a dream matchup if you're looking for the over

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 2: to hit on pitcher strikeouts, So give me, Paul Skins

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01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 2: over six and a half.

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01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need a combined strikeouts prot then.

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01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that'd be awesome.

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01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm surprised we don't have that now that I think

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 3: about it. Right, Like Tarrek Schobel and Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah.

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01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 3: They're both at I think eight and a half, so

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01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: you combined what you put it at maybe seventeen and

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01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 3: a half? Low, right, something like that. I want to

1590
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: be fun, right, it's true the root for both guys.

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01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 3: You know, people have fantasy teams. They do it all

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 3: the time. Right, we have a combined prop vet here.

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01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 4: Let's be kind of cool.

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01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 6: I like that market we.

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01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: Have, but we also have some inroad Jarre, I mean

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Speaker 2: literally bet MGM is all over there. Maybe we could

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Speaker 2: create that.

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Speaker 6: I can send a message you are there, you go,

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Speaker 6: people in the know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we should make that happen. I kind of like that.

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01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go with Andrew McCutcheon. I'll stick

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01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 3: with your same game here. Rich So McCutcheon, who my

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01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 3: dad is a big fan of, by the way, loves

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 3: the Saint Louis Cardinals. Always been a McCutcheon guy. But

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: he's done really well against Austin Gomber, who is not

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 3: exactly you know Zach Wheeler or Trek school Ball out there.

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01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: He's hit a homer double and limited played appearances, but

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01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 3: five hundred batting average.

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Speaker 4: I like McCutcheon over one and a half total.

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01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 3: Basis is why I'm doing with today plus one fifty. Oh,

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Speaker 3: good morning, happy Saturday to you. Have your thoughts changed

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Speaker 3: even a bit? We'll get to that in just a

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Speaker 3: couple of seconds. Hey, shortly after the show, our podcast

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Speaker 3: off the air. Okay, so we've talked about the trade

1621
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: requests of Micah Parsons and Terry McLaurin and the same

1622
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 3: division coincidentally, right NFC East players right now, But if

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: they've requested trades, quick recap. All three of us agree

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01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: that they're probably not getting traded, not going anywhere. This

1625
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 3: is just part of the negotiation tactics, you know, players

1626
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: are exercising their leverage.

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01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 4: We don't think they're going anywhere.

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01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: But my question is, have you changed your opinion at all,

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01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 3: even a smidge about what you expect from the Cowboys

1630
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 3: and the Commanders this season, Because even though we don't

1631
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: expect these guys to be traded, you could think, hey, man,

1632
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: especially in the Cowboy case, this is another chapter and

1633
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: the long, extensive book of unnecessary drama right Distraction City.

1634
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 3: You're supposed to be focused on improving, you know, tightening

1635
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: the screws, all that stuff. In the offseason, we're talking

1636
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 3: about a contract and got all these players weighing in,

1637
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: you know, seee Lamb is tweeting.

1638
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,959
Speaker 4: And it's just this whole soap opera.

1639
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: So does this kind of like soap opera vibe with

1640
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 3: both players? Does that cause you to look differently at

1641
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 3: the Cowboys or the Commanders and what you expect from

1642
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 3: them this season?

1643
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: Does it change my expectations for the season? Not really.

1644
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: The expectations are the expectations. I think that they're both

1645
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: going to be competitive in the conference, certainly competitive in

1646
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: the division they share. But what I will say is,

1647
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: you know it, does it does it twist how your

1648
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 2: your feelings may be about the start of the season,

1649
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 2: well yeah, like you know, and that can that have

1650
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 2: overall ramifications or ripple effects for the rest of the season, certainly,

1651
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: But we're talking about veteran players. We're talking about guys

1652
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: who have played for a single franchise who arguably probably

1653
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: are going to land exactly where they are, and the

1654
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 2: the I don't know the the in these two specific

1655
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: situations with McLaurin and with Micah, I don't I don't

1656
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 2: really see either of the two of them not playing

1657
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: or holding out, So I don't know. I don't know

1658
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 2: if it really disrupts in my mind's eye what the

1659
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: future looks like or the forecast looks like.

1660
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard a good case on social media yesterday

1661
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 5: because you know, I posted my analysis of the Micah

1662
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 5: Parsons deal and it was essentially, the Cowboys aren't trading him,

1663
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 5: this is really the only card he can play, and

1664
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 5: he's under contract for the next you know year, and

1665
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 5: then two franchise tags after that. I did get some

1666
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 5: pushback that, yeah, morale might be lower, but the team

1667
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 5: is galvanized around Parsons, Like I think every player on

1668
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 5: the Cowboys roster has changed their ex profile picture to

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01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 5: a picture of Mike. So it could let me make

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01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 5: the other side of this. It could galvanize that Cowboys

1671
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 5: locker room wow, and it could bring them together. And

1672
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 5: because we're all in agreement, this is the only thing

1673
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 5: we can agree on today that neither one of these

1674
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 5: guys gonna get traded. So if they're all gonna be

1675
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 5: their week one and the Cowboys players are all rallying

1676
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 5: for Parsons, Now I'm not in the locker room.

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01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 6: I don't know what the actual vibe is.

1678
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 5: But but who's to say that it doesn't make them

1679
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 5: more a bigger chip on their shoulder, like it could

1680
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 5: go in the other direction, I think.

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01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 3: Now it's an interesting take. I will say that we

1682
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 3: did agree on Allison Chains. Okay, oh that's true.

1683
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 4: That's what you can't get lost in translation. But I

1684
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 4: like what you're thinking here.

1685
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 3: Well, okay, well, maybe put it to the side if

1686
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: you will, or include it whatever you want to do

1687
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 3: with Michael Parsons, Terry McLaurin the trade requests. But what

1688
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: are your expectations for the Cowboys and Commanders this season?

1689
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 3: The Cowboys win total at BETMGM is seven and a

1690
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 3: half Commanders at nine and a half?

1691
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 4: Do you buy that?

1692
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 6: Rich?

1693
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 3: Are you more likely to take the Cowboys over seven

1694
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 3: and a half because of what Jared's saying right there, like, Hey,

1695
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 3: all these players are supporting Micah Parsons, their teammate Ceedee Lamb.

1696
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 4: He tweeted, never fails, dog.

1697
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 3: Just pay the man what you owe him, no need

1698
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: for the extra curricular, which is right on point.

1699
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 4: It's completely true, and Jared's right.

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01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 3: A lot of the players have changed their their ex

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01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 3: profile picture to Michaeh Parsons.

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01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 6: What do you think funny?

1703
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 3: Actually, are you more likely to buy over seven and

1704
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: a half wins for the Cowboys? And maybe this could

1705
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 3: actually help instead of hurt them?

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01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: I think I don't. I don't think it changes again

1707
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: the paradigm for me if I were interested in putting

1708
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: my money on there. I don't think X profiles are

1709
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: going to make the biggest difference. But I will say

1710
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: this continuity with your team and your program matters, and

1711
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: clearly this is an important player to that locker room,

1712
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: to that team's culture, and so it's almost another brick

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01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 2: in the wall, or I guess you could say another

1714
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 2: brick in building the argument that the Cowboys really just

1715
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: need to get this deal done and make Micah as

1716
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: happy as they possibly can, to get this season underway

1717
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 2: without any interruptions, which I think is essentially what's gonna happen,

1718
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: because I mean, also look at the Cowboys track record.

1719
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: They pay their stars, CD Lamb, Dak Prescott multiple times,

1720
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: Zeke Elliott, Zach Martin. It's gonna happen. It's an inevitability.

1721
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones just understands two things. He understands that at

1722
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 2: the end of the day, money talks, BS walks, and

1723
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: all of this right now is BS. He knows that

1724
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 2: as soon as Michael gets his big fat check and

1725
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: that guarantee, he and Mike are gonna be fast friends again.

1726
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: He's seen it a million times. He knows what a

1727
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: negotiation is, and he knows what a good negotiation does

1728
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,919
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. It gets everybody talking about the Cowboys. Yeah,

1729
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: and that is exactly what Jerry Jones wants. He's a

1730
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 2: marketing genius. Does he spend his money somewhat frivolously, Yeah? Sometimes.

1731
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Does he make a lot of money? Absolutely? The Dallas

1732
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Cowboys routinely are in the Forbes Top five Richest franchise

1733
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: in the world list. So Jerry Jones gets two things

1734
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: very right. He keeps his stars fat and happy and fed,

1735
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: and he gets his name and his team's name in

1736
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: the media constantly. This is good publicity for the Cowboys

1737
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: ahead of a season where like you said, I mean,

1738
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: the the prospects in their own division are fairly low

1739
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 2: in terms of who they're competing against. Commanders, they look

1740
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 2: completely rejuvenated with Jaden Daniels. The Eagles just won a

1741
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl for crying out loud, Like, there's a lot

1742
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: of work to do, even in your own divisions, So

1743
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 2: they're trying. He's trying to get as much buzz around

1744
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 2: the team before they start this season. Yeah.

1745
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 6: I mentioned this yesterday.

1746
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 5: I thought this is basically like, who needs Love Island

1747
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 5: when we have the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I mean, we

1748
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 5: don't need reality shows. Sports is the best reality show

1749
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 5: for Dallas. So here's your context. Would you agree or

1750
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 5: disagree that Dallas is essentially the same team as last

1751
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 5: year entering the season, right, like, pretty much the same

1752
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 5: core guys. I know they're running games a little bit,

1753
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 5: you know, off the beaten path, but it's pretty much,

1754
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 5: especially Parsons.

1755
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 6: Comes back and we expect him to be on the

1756
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 6: field week one.

1757
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 5: It's pretty much the same core as last year, right,

1758
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 5: agree or disagree?

1759
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 3: I mean, like Zach bart And retires, that's a big deal.

1760
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence now with the Seahawks, right Like, So there

1761
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 3: have been some guys that I don't want to make

1762
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: it sound like it's a carbon copy. You know. What

1763
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 3: I mean is the first round rookie Tyler Booker is

1764
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 3: expected to start. So I'm not saying you're saying that.

1765
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm just saying there.

1766
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 5: Have been relatively the same Because you mentioned a defensive

1767
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 5: lineman that's a.

1768
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 6: Tailor in his career at a guard and sorry, Rich,

1769
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 6: but guards don't move the needle.

1770
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean you traded for George Pickens. Okay,

1771
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 3: that's not the only thing to mention, Like, they have

1772
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 3: a whole rookie class.

1773
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 4: So it's it's.

1774
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 5: Relatively speaking, we have similar expectations for Dallas as last

1775
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 5: year to this year, right, relatively well, their win total

1776
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 5: last year was ten and a half, this year at

1777
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 5: seven and a half. That's hey, yeah, so what's changed?

1778
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 5: That's my point. What's changed from last year to where? Now,

1779
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 5: granted it was juice to the under heavily. It was like,

1780
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 5: really ten point twenty five, like ten and a quarter

1781
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 5: wasn't quite ten wasn't quite ten and a half. It

1782
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 5: was kind of in the middle, but it was still

1783
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 5: ten and a half. Like I bet under ten and

1784
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 5: a half last year and I won convincingly. They only

1785
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 5: won seven, but this year it's seven and a half.

1786
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like the Yankees, where we rarely

1787
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 5: get a fair price on the Yankees. We're kind of

1788
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 5: getting one tonight because they blew a hallacious lead last night.

1789
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 5: We're getting a fair price on the Cowboys this year.

1790
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 5: Seven and a half feels very fair. So eight point

1791
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 5: four is where I've gotten projected. That's a sub five

1792
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 5: hundred season. That's eight and nine, and they're going over

1793
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 5: their win total. So I feel like over seven and

1794
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 5: a half is the bet. Here, guys, I feel like

1795
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 5: I agree with you. It sounds like I don't, but

1796
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 5: I do, because here's the thing with the Cowboys. Man,

1797
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: whatever type of season they have, it's going to be overstated.

1798
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just if they have a good They

1799
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 3: had three twelve and five seasons in a row, and

1800
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 3: that was overstated at the time, and now they just

1801
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 3: fell on their face. They had a seven win season

1802
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 3: last year and it's overreaction city.

1803
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 4: Their win total is only seven and a half.

1804
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 3: Now, some of that is two teams in their division

1805
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 3: ended up in the NFC championship team right in the

1806
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 3: Eagles and the Commanders. So it's a tough division. But

1807
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 3: they won their win total seven and a half. Just

1808
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 3: like Jared said, they won seven games last year. Dak

1809
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 3: Prescott played eight games. Yeah, he missed half the season. Like,

1810
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 3: what do you think most teams would do if they're

1811
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 3: starting quarterback missed half the season, they'd probably be in

1812
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 3: the seven win territory or worse. Right, they probably in

1813
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 3: seven win territory or worse. And yeah, I think if

1814
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 3: blessed with better quarterback health, which is most likely going

1815
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 3: to be the case, I think the Cowboys are absolutely

1816
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 3: live to get to at least eight wins.

1817
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 4: They still have a lot of talent.

1818
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 2: It's also the environment they're in in the NFC East.

1819
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 2: You know what's changed, Jared to that point you were

1820
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: making is Washington has their franchise quarterback. You know, they

1821
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 2: have a ten year player at quarterback, where last year

1822
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 2: we had no idea who Jayden Daniels was, if he

1823
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: was going to be a complete bust or somewhere between

1824
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 2: what we saw on you know what the worst case

1825
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: scenario is. And then you look at the Eagles rolling

1826
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: off a super Bowl. You look at the Giants who

1827
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 2: seem somewhat rejuvenated after moving on from Danny Dimes and

1828
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: you know, in their opinion, getting better at quarterback. It's

1829
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: just a different looking division. And so I do agree

1830
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,520
Speaker 2: with you. Do I think that their number was overinflated

1831
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 2: last offseason? Yeah? Do I think this number is slightly

1832
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: underinflated this offseason? Also? Yeah, you know, I'd be much

1833
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 2: more tempted obviously taking the over this year than I

1834
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 2: was last year, because relying on the Dallas Cowboys to

1835
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 2: hit their over on a win total in the preseason

1836
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: when they have a double digit win total is crazy

1837
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: business because they are heartbreakers. If they're anything, that's just

1838
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,679
Speaker 2: typically what they do to their fan base. It's maddening.

1839
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 2: But in this case, I do think the pendulum has

1840
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: swung in that division and it's offering a price that

1841
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: people will bite at to take the over, and I

1842
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:10,520
Speaker 2: think many will.

1843
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, so their buys in Week ten so they

1844
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 5: get nine games before the buye.

1845
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 6: Now, the back half of the year is brutal.

1846
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,839
Speaker 5: The back half is tough Week twelve, Philly, Week thirteen,

1847
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 5: Thanksgiving game against Kansas City. I mean that game is

1848
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 5: going to be absolutely bonkers, Kansas City Thanksgiving in Dallas.

1849
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 5: Then you go to Detroit the following week, then Minnesota,

1850
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 5: then you finish. You got Washington and the Giants the

1851
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 5: last two weeks, Chargers in the sandwich spot in between.

1852
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 5: So that's a tough back half of the schedule, but

1853
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 5: the first nine games very manageable.

1854
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1855
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 5: You got that tough game at Philly Thursday night, Right,

1856
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 5: that's the opener with the Eagles raising the banner. But

1857
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 5: then it's Giants Bears, Packers. That's tough, but you're at

1858
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 5: home primetime Jets Panthers, Commanders at home at Denver.

1859
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 6: Tough game.

1860
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 5: But then you get Arizona at home on a Monday

1861
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 5: night before the buye. So no short week after the

1862
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 5: Monday night game against Arizona, you're going into your bye week.

1863
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 5: I want to say, in those nine games, five and

1864
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 5: four is very winnable. They're favored in four of them,

1865
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 5: and then you get the toss up at Chicago. We

1866
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 5: don't know what the Bears are going to be yet,

1867
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 5: and then you get the home game against Washington, which

1868
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 5: I think is winnable at home. Really the only games

1869
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 5: that I think are not guaranteed, but you know, probably

1870
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 5: losses at Denver week eight, although who knows, maybe Denver

1871
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 5: takes a step back this year and that game is winnable.

1872
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 5: And then of course the opener against Philly, and I

1873
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 5: think Green May is going to be really good this year,

1874
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 5: so I think I'm gonna give them a loss there.

1875
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 5: So I'll give them five and four the first nine games.

1876
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 5: If everything is healthy. Yeah, I think they can win

1877
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 5: three out of seven down the stretch. I think that

1878
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 5: is very possible. Just me three out of three out

1879
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 5: of eight down the stretch to go three and five

1880
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 5: down the stretch to get to eight wins if they

1881
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 5: go five and four before the bye. So I like

1882
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 5: the fact that the Buys smack dab in the middle

1883
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 5: of the year. In Week ten, I like the fact

1884
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 5: that they do get some early wins that they can bank,

1885
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 5: and seven and a half feels like a very reasonable

1886
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 5: price for a team with as much talent and expectations

1887
01:35:58,600 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 5: as Dallas.

1888
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

1889
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 3: It's funny though, man, Like, that's what I love about

1890
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: season win totals is there are times where the adjusted

1891
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 3: line works. You take an adjusted under and adjusted over.

1892
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 3: But man, there are a lot of times it is

1893
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 3: down to a game whether it's going over or under,

1894
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 3: and so that the more favorable first half of the schedule,

1895
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 3: Jared the Cowboy. If you're on the over, the Cowboys

1896
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 3: have to take care of business, yep. Or else you're

1897
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 3: looking at a stretch where it's like I need a

1898
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 3: win and we're looking at four games in a row

1899
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 3: against the Eagles, Chiefs, Lions on the road in Vikings.

1900
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 3: That's like whoa right, Like the walls can close in

1901
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 3: on you fast if they don't get off to a

1902
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 3: good start. But I think they will. I think that

1903
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 3: they are absolutely live for over.

1904
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 6: Is that game Philly? Hmmm?

1905
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a divisional game. Absolutely, it's winnable.

1906
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1907
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not running to the betting window to

1908
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 3: say I think I'm taking seven.

1909
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 6: In my mind, I've already bet Dallas plus.

1910
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 5: Oh wow, just in your mind though in my mind

1911
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 5: not in reality yet, because you know it's Michael Parss

1912
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 5: could be on a beach in Acapulco somewhere.

1913
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 6: You could be an Jared.

1914
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,679
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Speaker 4: Little depeche Mode. Yeah, like one very nice.

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Speaker 2: One of the best albums of all time.

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Speaker 8: I've been going back and trying to do like my

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Speaker 8: favorite albums all time and like I'm partially you know,

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Speaker 8: softer stuff like Simon and garfunkle Bridge or Trouble Water,

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Speaker 8: but like talk about albums back to back, Violator is

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Speaker 8: like one of those perfect albums you listen to no fat.

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Speaker 3: My girlfriend is a huge depeche Mode fan. We saw

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Speaker 3: them at the United Center in Chicago. So I've gone

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Speaker 3: to see depeche Mode. You guys have any like concerts

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Speaker 3: that you'd be we'd be like, wow, Wow, I didn't

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Speaker 3: know you went to go see that artist there?

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Speaker 4: You got anything on the list?

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 2: Rich who actually coming up next week week I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be seeing Creed in Cheulib. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: actually might be on stage with them at one point.

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Speaker 2: It's like through the radio station we work, Oh, you're

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Speaker 2: announcing them. Huh, it's possible they're playing with Mammoth and

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Speaker 2: uh it should be. It should be a good, good show.

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Speaker 3: Have you practiced, how would you what would be your

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Speaker 3: energy while introducing Creed?

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Speaker 2: It would it would be? It would say it would

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Speaker 2: I I would absolutely at some point drop the reference.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're six feet from the edge of

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Speaker 2: your seat, I want you to get a little bit closer. Great,

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Speaker 2: if you want to be taken even higher. This next

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Speaker 2: act is really gonna blow your doors off. It's I'm

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Speaker 2: working it out. I'm working at.

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Speaker 6: He's a professional. Folks, Does Backstreet Boys at the sphere count?

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Speaker 4: Have you gone to see them?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 6: But it's on the list.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, the millennial women are just going to

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Speaker 5: be out in droves every time that they're they're they're there,

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Speaker 5: So I feel like it's it's it's.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you s any people all over Vegas, Jared,

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Speaker 3: where you know there's this whole group of people and

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Speaker 3: everyone's decked out in all white.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're like, I know where they were.

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Speaker 6: Earlier this evening, where they're going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I love the millennial vibes here in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: Although Vegas has been it's been quiet, right, that's been

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Speaker 5: the vibes here in Vegas. The you know tourism has

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Speaker 5: been down, but I mean still I don't notice it.

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Speaker 5: Whenever I go to the strip, it's always jammed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, uh okay, So there's another MLB investigation. All right,

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Speaker 3: we will get to something I think is interesting here

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Speaker 3: because you know, you do these stories enough and you

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Speaker 3: can just feel how other people feel when you're talking

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Speaker 3: about something, you know what I mean, And I could

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Speaker 3: just I can feel a lot of the audience like,

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, another betting investigation.

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Speaker 4: Here we go again, you know.

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Speaker 3: So this time it's Guardians picture Emmanuel Classe, who was

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Speaker 3: a really good closer, and this threw a wrench into

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Speaker 3: the trading plans for the Aready Ins. Right, So he's

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Speaker 3: thrown twenty two pitches outside the strike zone this season

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Speaker 3: when it's a zero zero count and the bases are empty,

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Speaker 3: and at least half of those pitches have been uncompetitive, right,

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Speaker 3: so red Flag City is there? Is he communicating information

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Speaker 3: like all right, yeah, it's gonna be a ball the

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Speaker 3: first pitch when I get into the game, you know,

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Speaker 3: because half these pitches aren't even competitive. He's bouncing them.

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Speaker 3: They're way high way outside catchers Like, holy cow, class

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Speaker 3: say that wasn't even close that sort of thing. So

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Speaker 3: maybe there's something improper going on here. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but here's the question that it leads me to. And

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Speaker 3: I never really thought about it like this, but I

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Speaker 3: want to see what you guys think about it. How

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Speaker 3: often do you think an athlete is actually doing something

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Speaker 3: improper related to sports betting and getting away with it?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like we have these stories where it's like there's more oversights,

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Speaker 3: there's more greed. How how often do you think it

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Speaker 3: could be where there's a tennis player that's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna double fault to start the second set or what,

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Speaker 3: and is.

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Speaker 4: Sly about it. They're not greedy about it.

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Speaker 3: It's not raising red flags when you go from sport

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Speaker 3: to sport. How often do you think that's happening these

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Speaker 3: days and they're getting away with it, right, because all

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Speaker 3: we do is like this is like the cops stopping

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Speaker 3: people for speeding. Imagine if you just heard that all day,

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Speaker 3: another ticket, another ticket, someone's getting away with speeding, like

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Speaker 3: so rich. How often do you think this happens in

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Speaker 3: sports where an athlete is doing something that's shady in

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Speaker 3: the name of sports betting and getting away with it,

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Speaker 3: getting a little bit extra scratch on the side.

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Speaker 2: Not okay, So not as often when we're talking about

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Speaker 2: you know, point shaving or lowering your prop you know,

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Speaker 2: like things like that, you know, where you're actually putting

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Speaker 2: yourself or your team at a competitive disadvantage in order

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Speaker 2: to make money. I don't think that happens very often

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Speaker 2: at all, and I think that's why these are so

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Speaker 2: egregious when they come out and they're so thoroughly investigated.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of like making a side bet with

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Speaker 2: a friend on a different team, like, hey, we'll put

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Speaker 2: stakes on it who wins tonight. You know a couple

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Speaker 2: of running backs who played college football together, maybe a

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Speaker 2: couple of years apart. You know, one place for I

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Speaker 2: don't know the name, the team's in division, one place

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Speaker 2: for the Jets, one place for the Buffalo Bills, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden they're facing each other, and you

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Speaker 2: know they're gonna put stakes on it the next time

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Speaker 2: they face each other on who has more rushing yards

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Speaker 2: that game? Like I don't think. I don't think very

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Speaker 2: many athletes can make it to the professional ranks in

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Speaker 2: any sport and completely debilitate themselves competitively in order to

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Speaker 2: make some money, because it's it's against every single thing

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Speaker 2: you've done your entire life. It's so it's so morally

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Speaker 2: obligatory to try your hardest to win that it almost

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Speaker 2: goes against your identity as a person to do something

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Speaker 2: like that. So in terms of like a side bet

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Speaker 2: on yourself to have a failure, I would say that

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Speaker 2: is very low. But in terms of a side bet

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Speaker 2: for you to have some success, I would say that

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Speaker 2: probably happens more more than we think, and it's happening

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Speaker 2: all the time.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it happens at scale.

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Speaker 5: What do I mean by that, like the class A

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Speaker 5: stuff and the ortis stuff where you have other people

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Speaker 5: betting on it, right, because I think the system is

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Speaker 5: in place now to weed this stuff out. And the

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Speaker 5: micro prop markets and what I mean by micro prop

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Speaker 5: like short time horizon, like the next pitch will be

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Speaker 5: a strike.

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Speaker 6: That stuff.

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Speaker 5: I think we need to look at as are we

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Speaker 5: really helping or hurting the game here? And I know

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Speaker 5: we want the more, we want more markets. I think

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Speaker 5: betting is a net positive for sports. It raises interest level,

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Speaker 5: it makes the average fan more engaged with the game.

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Speaker 5: But I think there's a there's too much like everything

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Speaker 5: in moderation, Like I think we're starting to push the

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Speaker 5: envelope of how many markets are too many markets? Like

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Speaker 5: do we really need to have a market on whether

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Speaker 5: or not the first pitch of the inning is going

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Speaker 5: to be a ballish strike?

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Speaker 6: Like I don't. I don't think that's necessary.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we need what do you tell kidnapped Jared Smith

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Speaker 4: in this take?

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Speaker 6: What's happening?

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Speaker 5: Those are the things I think we can look at

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Speaker 5: as highly manipulative, like they can be easily manipulated and

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Speaker 5: have no impact on the actual result of the game.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the stuff that we can examine and say,

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Speaker 5: do we really need this?

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Speaker 6: But if you're asking me if.

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Speaker 5: There are tons of players out there that have bet

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Speaker 5: against themselves to do something in a gain, no, especially

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Speaker 5: individual sports, like that's it. That's all you've got, Like

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Speaker 5: you don't have any teammates to pick you up, like tennis, golf,

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Speaker 5: that I don't think it happens at all in those sports.

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Speaker 5: Now they bet amongst each other, I would imagine a lot,

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Speaker 5: But there aren't any scandals. There aren't any groups of

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Speaker 5: people that are getting insider information that Hey, Louise aren't.

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Speaker 1: They's gonna throw a ball and everybody.

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Speaker 5: Like, I think those are very isolated incidents, and when

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Speaker 5: they do happen, the red flags go off because we

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Speaker 5: have entities like US Integrity to monitor these markets, and

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Speaker 5: we get these alerts.

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Speaker 6: I get them all the time.

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Speaker 5: I get sports sportsbooks sending me alerts all the time

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Speaker 5: from this stuff. Usually it's lower level Division two games

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Speaker 5: like that you don't really care about or heard of,

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Speaker 5: but when it happens at the major league level, these

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Speaker 5: markets are monitored so closely it's very hard to slip

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Speaker 5: something between the cracks these days. But the richest point,

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Speaker 5: I'm willing to bet that the player to player gambling

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Speaker 5: is extensive and that.

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Speaker 6: Rabbit hole I don't even want to know how deep

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Speaker 6: it goes.

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Speaker 3: Well, And I don't have a problem with that because

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Speaker 3: you're just betting on the overs essentially, right, like I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna have more rushing yards than you, like whatever, You're

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Speaker 3: not throwing anything, you know like that, That to me

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Speaker 3: is different.

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Speaker 4: If it's just you know, player to player type thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't think this happens a lot because listen, the

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Speaker 3: way it typically goes is you're in trouble, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, you owe a good amount of

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Speaker 3: money and now you're gonna do something really shady and

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Speaker 3: you're gonna give information and you're gonna just coincidentally hit

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Speaker 3: the unders all across the board, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So you're doing that for a big payday, like you're

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Speaker 3: in trouble it So this isn't a couple hundred bucks

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Speaker 3: here and there. And the other part why I don't

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Speaker 3: think this happens often is because greed exposes almost everybody,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, hey, I just I made a cool

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Speaker 3: one thousand bucks. What if I made a cool eighty

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Speaker 3: five thousand bucks, you know, and then it raises red

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Speaker 3: flags and you don't get away with it. I'm not

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Speaker 3: naive enough to think it doesn't happen at all. Like,

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Speaker 3: is there someone somewhere who's smart enough about it and says, hey,

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Speaker 3: I can just earn some free money and I'm not losing.

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Speaker 3: I'm double faulting to start the second set. I'm still

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Speaker 3: aiming to win the match, but I get an extra

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Speaker 3: you know, five hundred bucks on the side.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, shrug your shoulders, sign me up.

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Speaker 3: Is there someone somewhere doing that and getting away with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think absolutely there is, but I don't think it

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Speaker 3: happens very often because I think the main reason someone

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Speaker 3: does that to begin with is they're in extensive trouble.

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Speaker 3: And then the way they get busted is they get

2141
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 3: way too greedy. They can't keep it small. They can't say, yeah,

2142
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 3: I did that last month, let me get a couple

2143
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 3: extra one hundred bucks, and they think bigger than that,

2144
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 3: and that's what gets them in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And also just think think about, like what

2146
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: the amounts we typically see are wagered here. You know,

2147
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 2: these are you know, thirty thousand dollars, And I mean

2148
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 2: that sounds like life changing money for most people around

2149
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: the country. If all of a sudden, thirty grand dropped

2150
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 2: in your bank account. I mean, there's a lot of

2151
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: good you could do, maybe clear some debt, maybe pay

2152
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 2: down you know, a car or whatever it is, you

2153
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, obviously we're talking, but in

2154
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 2: the realm of professional sports, where the contracts, especially some

2155
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 2: of the contracts of some of the players who have

2156
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 2: been investigated for these things, are so high, it's like

2157
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 2: why even bother So to your point, Brian, this is

2158
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 2: part of a bigger story getting involved with the wrong people,

2159
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 2: having you know, maybe trying to impress the wrong people,

2160
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: having a group who's not looking out for your best interests,

2161
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 2: who can convince you of things that you know maybe

2162
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 2: you you, I mean, your basis for naivity is higher

2163
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,640
Speaker 2: than other people, even though you're instructed not to do

2164
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 2: these things, like I mean, the big bugaboo what five

2165
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 2: not just five years ago, but always has been, you know,

2166
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: performance enhancing drugs. There are, legitimately and I played with

2167
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 2: some of them, naive players in the league who trusted

2168
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 2: somebody who said, oh, yeah, this will get you stronger, faster,

2169
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 2: better take it. It's one hundred percent safe, and they

2170
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 2: did zero of their own research and got busted for tests.

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01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: And it's just like, well, I trusted the guy, and

2172
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: they're like, well what guy, Well the guy who told

2173
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 2: me to take it. And they're no, no, no, that's not

2174
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 2: how this works. We told you not to do that.

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01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 2: But there is a certain level of naivity. But I'll

2176
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 2: say this, this being the new ped debate in all sports,

2177
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:40,520
Speaker 2: the fact that there are hard, you know, very obvious

2178
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 2: boundaries around betting on sports, betting on your sport. I

2179
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 2: think we're gonna hear a lot more about it. It

2180
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it happens all the time, but we're just

2181
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 2: gonna hear a lot more about it because there's so

2182
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 2: many more eyeballs on it.

2183
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll break it down with some basic math,

2184
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 5: Like the average NFL salary is about three and a

2185
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 5: half million per year, which means your game checks about

2186
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy five two hundred K. You can't

2187
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 5: get down that much on a game. You know. Harder

2188
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 5: is to get down one hundred and seventy five thousand

2189
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 5: dollars on a game, and then you got to split

2190
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 5: it up amongst all the other people in this group

2191
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 5: that are you know, this syndicate that are making these

2192
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 5: bets with, Like, it's almost impossible for an NFL player

2193
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 5: to throw a game. That's why the whole NFL is

2194
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 5: rigged argument. It's just like the dumbest thing ever. Because

2195
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 5: these players make so much money, the odds of them

2196
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 5: being able to make more money getting down on games

2197
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 5: that they are allegedly throwing or rigging, it's impossible. It

2198
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:43,640
Speaker 5: just doesn't make sense. And you'd have to throw the

2199
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 5: money through such a large web of networks of games

2200
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:50,799
Speaker 5: like someone will break rank and spill the beans.

2201
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 6: There's just too.

2202
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 5: Many cameras, too many smartphones, there's too much money that

2203
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 5: these players make with their salaries for them to make

2204
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 5: this kind of Dumbo mistake. Now you want to talk

2205
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 5: about the lower levels, You want to talk about minor leagues,

2206
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 5: You want to talk about the Vision two, Like, yes,

2207
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 5: I can get behind those games being rigged, but if

2208
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 5: you're also betting on those games, you have other issues

2209
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 5: that you need.

2210
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 6: To sift through.

2211
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 5: So I never take anything seriously when someone comes at

2212
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 5: me with, well, the games are rigged, these players are

2213
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 5: betting on the games, and then they're throat like, it's

2214
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 5: just no, Like you don't understand the dynamics of how

2215
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 5: hard it is to get down that much money on

2216
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 5: a game and have it go completely under the radar.

2217
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 5: So I think that's what we need to really address

2218
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 5: when we're talking about the gambling scandals. It's really hard

2219
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 5: to bet these days without all these eyeballs on you,

2220
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 5: and if you're betting large amounts of money on really

2221
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 5: random props or really random markets, you are going to

2222
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 5: get caught, just like Ortiz and class A have gotten caught.

2223
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 6: Their lockers were cleaned out, like this.

2224
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 5: Is serious stuff, and they were probably not making that

2225
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 5: much money because of the micro marks that they were,

2226
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 5: you know, rigging with these first pitch strike, first pitch

2227
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 5: ball props.

2228
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 6: It just doesn't The juice ain't worth the squeeze.

2229
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 3: By the way, a quick shout out here, because on

2230
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 3: Fox tonight, I think it's gonna sound like an advertisement.

2231
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 3: It's really not. I think it's a cool idea. It's

2232
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 3: Braves against the Reds. It's the MLB Speedway Classic. They're

2233
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 3: gonna play a game at Bristol Motor Speedway. It's the

2234
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 3: first ever game in Tennessee. That's wild first MLB game

2235
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 3: in Tennessee. And so they've sold over eighty five thousand tickets.

2236
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna break the MLB single game attendance record. They

2237
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 3: got the nostalgia you at the first pitch thrown out

2238
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 3: by Johnny Bench and Chippard Jones.

2239
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 4: It's a great idea. Like I just wanted to mention it.

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01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 3: Real fast in passing because I feel like a lot

2241
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:49,719
Speaker 3: of what we do in sports radio is like.

2242
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 4: Can you believe this? What the hell is this?

2243
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 1: Why this?

2244
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

2245
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 3: Like there's not that much celebrating of stuff. But I

2246
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 3: think an idea like this. Listen, I'm the first one

2247
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 3: that's like, why the hell are they starting the MLB

2248
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 3: season in the middle of the night in a different country.

2249
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 3: What are you thinking? But fair is fair and I

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01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 3: gotta give them props for this. I think it's a

2251
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 3: cool idea. It's something that's different. It's gonna get some attention.

2252
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 3: They already sold it out. A ton of tickets have

2253
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 3: been sold. When you do something outside the box like this,

2254
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think it's great for baseball,

2255
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 3: breaks up the monotony of one hundred and sixty two games.

2256
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 4: Shout out MLB.

2257
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 3: I love this idea with the Speedway Classic tonight, Yeah,

2258
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 3: that is cool.

2259
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 2: I like novel ideas like that where it gets people excited.

2260
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 2: I mean, having a random, one off experience like this,

2261
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 2: I think you can. You can collect fans for life

2262
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 2: that way, you know, because all it takes is one

2263
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 2: kid in Tennessee who gets an opportunity that otherwise he

2264
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't have, and depending on what team or player has

2265
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 2: a big night. I mean that could be it many

2266
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 2: how many stories start out that way. It's like, hey,

2267
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 2: you're a you know whatever, a Seattle Seahawks man, you

2268
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 2: live in Tampa Bay. What happened to you? And then

2269
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 2: you know well it all started back in Tennessee, you

2270
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 2: know whatever? You know what I mean? Like it is cool.

2271
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 6: I saw the pictures of the high level.

2272
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of all of the ran like

2273
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 5: when they played the stupid basketball game on.

2274
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 6: The aircraft carrier. That was a little bit too much

2275
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 6: for me.

2276
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 5: But I do like the unique locations because again, you're

2277
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 5: bringing in an audience that wouldn't And that's this is

2278
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 5: why I love gambling, Like gambling has brought in audiences

2279
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 5: to new sports. For example, I have become a much

2280
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 5: bigger fan of the WNBA gambling. And it's not that

2281
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 5: I don't like basketball, it's just it's a time in

2282
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 5: the sports calendar when I'm just usually either occupied or

2283
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 5: doing other things. But now, because it's a sport that

2284
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 5: I feel like can be beat, I pay more attention

2285
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 5: to it. And you bring in You're gonna bring in

2286
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 5: a lot of NASCAR fans. I probably never watched a

2287
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 5: baseball game before, and that's gonna be pretty cool, I think.

2288
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 6: To tell that story.

2289
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, cool idea, I think, all right, We've got

2290
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,879
Speaker 3: rich ron Berger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR

2291
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,960
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Speaker 3: We each have a bushel of picks for you and

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Speaker 3: we'll compare notes. Maybe WNBA included if you're a man

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Speaker 3: of your word.

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Speaker 4: There Jared Smith.

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Speaker 6: Only one game on the slate tonight and it's not

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01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 6: a great number.

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Speaker 3: So no, I think we're getting three baseball picks from

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Speaker 3: Jared Smith.

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Speaker 6: Correct.

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Speaker 3: All right, we've got some picks to make.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 3: All right, mister Jerrett Smith, we'll start with you for

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Speaker 3: your non WNBA picks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll go baseball here, and I think next week

2333
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 5: we'll be back to the ball. But Rangers Mariners nerfy

2334
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 5: exciting game last night. Seattle's really making that push for

2335
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 5: the American League West. They wanted a walk off last

2336
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 5: night with Crawford hitting a two run homer in the ninth.

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01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 5: Hopefully a sleepy start today, Let's go nurfy. Luis Castillo

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01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 5: Merril Kelly. Castile has been great in this category fourteen

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01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 5: straight nerfe's strikeouts down this year, but the era also

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01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 5: very low. In fact is Lois since twenty two when

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01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 5: he got traded from Cincinnati to Seattle. First start from

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01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 5: Merril Kelly with Texas. He's been also good lately. Four

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Speaker 5: straight nurfe's one point eight two er and that span

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01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 5: and the NURFE thirteen and four in day games at

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01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 5: Team Mobile Park will go nurfy. In Seattle, Paul Skeen's

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01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 5: under five and a half hits allowed. We're fading the

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01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 5: explosion we saw last night between Pittsburgh and Colorado. I

2348
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 5: know it's cores Field, but Sken's has gone under this

2349
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 5: hits a loud prop in thirteen straight Colorado. Alrighty's in

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01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 5: the lineup right, he's hitting one sixty seven against Skeien.

2351
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 5: So the Pirates probably a little more conservative with Skeen's

2352
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 5: innings down the stretch. They're not playing for anything under

2353
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 5: five and a half. It's allowed, and we'll finish with

2354
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 5: the Athletics on the money line facing the d Backs

2355
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 5: fading Arizona after their fire sale.

2356
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 6: I gave you JT. Gin Over strikeouts earlier.

2357
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 5: I think he's a little bit under value, so I

2358
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 5: think the A's get the win today against Arizona.

2359
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Dodgers given one and a half runs to the

2360
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 2: Raids today. They start Blake Snell. He's been sensational in

2361
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 2: his start. Their slight favorites. I think they're well equipped

2362
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,480
Speaker 2: to win by more than a run and a half,

2363
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 2: So give me the Dodgers minus one and a half. There,

2364
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Phillies Tigers, great pitching matchup Wheeler Schooble, but Philadelphia's offensive

2365
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 2: firepower is the reason why I'm going to take the

2366
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 2: Phillies on the money line, and the Yankees against the Marlins.

2367
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't love the pitching matchup for the Yankees, but

2368
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 2: I think they have more offensive potential and depth to

2369
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 2: get the job done, so I'll take the Yanks on

2370
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 2: the money line. So Dodgers minus one and a half,

2371
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 2: Phillies money line, Yankees money line. That's my rapid fire today.

2372
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 4: Alrighty, I'll start with baseball.

2373
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 3: I'm not going to overthink this one. We got Trek

2374
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 3: Scuball against Zach Wheeler. Give me the under six and

2375
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 3: a half. I know six and a half is pretty

2376
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 3: low for an MLB game, but could you see three

2377
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 3: to one?

2378
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 4: Could you see four to two?

2379
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2380
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 3: I absolutely could, So give me the under on that game.

2381
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a couple of WNBA props on you, huh.

2382
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 3: If nobody else, well, I'll be the one. Give me

2383
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 3: a lot of Smith of the Links. Give me over

2384
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 3: five and a half rebounds. She's done a great job

2385
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 3: on the boards against the Aces in particular in two games.

2386
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 3: And I like Jackie Young over four and a half

2387
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 3: assists again, same thing. She's done a really good job

2388
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 3: against the Links in particular, and then all she's been

2389
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:37,840
Speaker 3: hot lately with this prop just you know, dump it

2390
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:38,879
Speaker 3: down to Asia Wilson.

2391
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 4: Let her do her thing.

2392
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 3: So I think Jackie Young over four and a half

2393
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 3: assists makes a lot of sense as well. So there

2394
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 3: you go, a couple of WNBA picks. I wanted to

2395
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:51,720
Speaker 3: get schemes in there, man, it's they make it so difficult, right, Like.

2396
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 6: You got to get creative. That's why it went hits

2397
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 6: all out.

2398
02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 4: I like that one thirteen straight where you've been good

2399
02:00:57,880 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 4: with the under there.

2400
02:00:58,680 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 1: Huh.

2401
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 5: Well, Also, like you think down the stretch they're gonna

2402
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 5: limit his innings, like like, why are you going seven

2403
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 5: eight innings with him? Unless he really wants the cy Young,

2404
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 5: which he's gonna win anyway, if he just kind of

2405
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 5: does his you know, pitch his average down the stretch.

2406
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 3: You want to hear a couple of crazy scheme stats

2407
02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 3: before we get out of here.

2408
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what he did in July.

2409
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 3: His era was zero point sixty seven, unbelievable, and he

2410
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:21,880
Speaker 3: had thirty six strikeouts and only three walks.

2411
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 4: That was a five starts freaking yeah.

2412
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 5: Watch him give up ten hits in the first two

2413
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 5: innings to night because he's at cores.

2414
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 6: But hopefully he goes go. I think six innings, five hits,

2415
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 6: eight strikeouts, feels like the right line for skin.

2416
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:37,120
Speaker 3: That's a good sweat too, if you're right on the cuspah,

2417
02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 3: keep it up five.

2418
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 4: You can't allow another hit, you know, it could be

2419
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 4: a good sweat.

2420
02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 3: Nice, good job, good team effort, one too, three, two,