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Speaker 1: to this redistricting talk, because that can be really politically

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle Chance,

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Speaker 1: But if you said that you want to buy the jeans,

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Speaker 1: Right? Okay? The jeans at and this is this is

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Speaker 1: An admiral on top of all that, it's not just

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Speaker 1: What a statement? Don't make me send my fighter jets

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't like it when they leak that

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Speaker 8: So what's been released is from the CIA, is from

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Speaker 1: In how they did it. Okay, what's the Durham Annex.

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Speaker 8: I don't think she can. There's too many layers of

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Speaker 1: Well, I agree, but we do get them afia bosses.

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Speaker 1: We used RICO to get them. Can we use RICO here?

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Speaker 1: Hans, thank you, my brother. As always, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having all Right, what's going on with all

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Speaker 1: Why don't we have these appointments? Wade Miller will join

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Speaker 1: Why is Donald Trump telling the Senate Minority Leader Chuck

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's talk to Wade about it. Joining

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Speaker 1: Center for Renewing America. Okay, Wade, what has Trump so

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Speaker 5: Does he really need an excuse to tell Schumer to

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Speaker 5: Of the matter is so Schumer knows he has some

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Speaker 5: So John Thune is basically intentionally depriving the ability of

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Speaker 5: some of them dozens, if not hundreds of them. So

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Speaker 5: there's really no excuse not to just formally recess the

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Speaker 5: Senate and get these things done. Instead, what they're going

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Speaker 5: to do is they're going to do these pro forma sessions,

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Speaker 5: eat up August, come back, work on you know, appropriations.

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Speaker 5: But it's just a gimmick process. It's not real. And

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Speaker 5: then we're going to get to a cr later in

437
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Speaker 5: the summer, so they're just eating up the clock instead

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Speaker 5: of actually getting these things out of the way so

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Speaker 5: we can actually have real fights on real things when

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Speaker 5: they get back.

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like the Senate is doing what the

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Speaker 1: Senate normally does and it just goes beyond these appointments.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to slow roll change as much as humanly possible,

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Speaker 1: so nothing changes. Do I have that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And my guess is behind the scenes, they're probably trying

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Speaker 5: to convince the Trump and iministration that this is like

447
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Speaker 5: they're trying to help them. The reality is they're not.

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Speaker 5: My guess is that Trump senses that, and he's getting

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Speaker 5: increasingly frustrated, not just with Chuck schumerber but probably with

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Speaker 5: Senate leadership. And as of just a technical reminder, Speaker

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Speaker 5: Johnson can do this too. If Speaker Johnson calls back

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Speaker 5: the House and then formally votes on a recess and

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Speaker 5: then the Senate disagrees with that, then that gives the

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Speaker 5: president unilateral authority to declare a recess, and then President

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Speaker 5: Trump himself can recess a point and get all of

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Speaker 5: these done. So even Speaker Johnson could get this done

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Speaker 5: for us, but I doubt he comes back to town

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Speaker 5: and John Thune isn't going to do it without an

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Speaker 5: enormous amount of pressure. And again, they are using a

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Speaker 5: process now that was always intended to slow down the

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Speaker 5: ability of an opposition president. They're now using it against

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Speaker 5: our own president. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So not to weigh too deep into the weeds here,

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Speaker 1: but I kind of need to the appointments. What are they?

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Speaker 1: How important are they? What aren't we getting that we

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Speaker 1: should have by now?

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Speaker 5: Well, there's about thirteen hundred or so positions that can be,

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Speaker 5: you know, formally nominated. It's kind of ridiculous. It really

469
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Speaker 5: shouldn't be more than a few dozen that needs to

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Speaker 5: be reformed. I don't know why we're you know, have

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Speaker 5: to have Senate approval on a fifth person down in

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Speaker 5: an agency. It just doesn't make any sense. But there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of some of them are judges, some of

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Speaker 5: them are US attorneys, a lot of them are political

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Speaker 5: appointees to the administration. But you know, I have some

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Speaker 5: good friends, like you know, Joe Edloe just got through

477
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Speaker 5: to DHS. He's awesome, he's a great guy. Why does

478
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Speaker 5: the Senate need to vote on Joe Edlin? You know,

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Speaker 5: I understand a cabinet secretary, but why does Senate Republicans

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Speaker 5: want to have a deliberate of conversation about every single

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Speaker 5: one of the nominees and their own president's administration. Just

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Speaker 5: get them done, just you know, get them through the door.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to have this long.

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Speaker 5: You can always do a recess appointment and then come

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Speaker 5: back and still do a formal hearing and then formally

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Speaker 5: confirm them. But then you're not on a clock. You

487
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Speaker 5: don't have to worry about this. But it's just a backlog.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, they make it difficult to the

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Speaker 5: n degree on all of these people five layers down,

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Speaker 5: while at the same time they voice vote all these

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Speaker 5: woke admirals and generals without even a second of conversation

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Speaker 5: and give them their promotions. So it's just they've got

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Speaker 5: their priorities backwards. They need to be focusing more on

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Speaker 5: woke generals and admirals and less on politically vetted appointees

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Speaker 5: for the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the status on all these generals and admirals?

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Speaker 1: I haven't forgotten about all these poisonous little demons that

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Speaker 1: have infected our military. Has Pete hag Seth getting them out?

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Speaker 5: Yes, so they are starting the process. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: never going to be as fast as I would always love,

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Speaker 5: but they are moving forward. They've been very responsive when

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Speaker 5: we've highlighted some people that have been promoted that are bad,

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Speaker 5: Like they just got rid of someone who has given

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Speaker 5: a ten year professor positioned Jen Easterly, who was the

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Speaker 5: head of all of the CIS censorship industrial complex nonsense.

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Speaker 5: She was given a tenured position at West Point within

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Speaker 5: hours of US highlighting that the DoD had already acted,

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Speaker 5: and they revoked that and pulled it back. They fired

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Speaker 5: a number of generals. I think that they've reassigned some generals. So, yes,

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Speaker 5: they're being very responsive, and there is some consideration, you

511
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Speaker 5: know versus like I have a political desire on something

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Speaker 5: to occur. But at the same time, they have thirty

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Speaker 5: years of training, and you have to weigh removing them

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Speaker 5: from a leadership position and replacing that thirty years of

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Speaker 5: knowledge versus their woken weaponize So they can't do them

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Speaker 5: all at once. They need to slowly. Long story short, Yes,

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Speaker 5: they're making forward progress. I'd like to see more, but

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Speaker 5: they're definitely being very responsive and helpful.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about redistricting, because the average normal

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Speaker 1: person doesn't understand this process, doesn't understand what's happening Texas.

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Speaker 1: Why are Democrats flying to Illinois, Why is the governor

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Speaker 1: threatening give me the one oh one on this way?

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Speaker 1: What's happening?

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of reasons to do it. First, remember,

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Speaker 5: even the Census Bureau admitted that they undercounted Texas by

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Speaker 5: more than five hundred thousand people. And then if you

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Speaker 5: factor in the you know, they're counting illegal aliens for

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Speaker 5: purposes of political districts, which should not be done just

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Speaker 5: across the board in the entire country. That should not

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Speaker 5: be done because you're basically saying that if a district

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Speaker 5: has forty percent illegals, then the actual citizens who can

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Speaker 5: vote in that district have more proportional power than citizens

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Speaker 5: in a district with five percent of legals. So there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of reasons to do it. Texas came up

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Speaker 5: with a good map that compared to a lot of

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Speaker 5: Democrats states, is still you know, not nearly as favorable

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Speaker 5: to ours. As some of these states are to their

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Speaker 5: own to Democrats. So they come up with a map

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Speaker 5: that does plus five in theory plus five Republican districts.

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Speaker 5: And they got the map out of committee, and then

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Speaker 5: the tech Texas Speaker of the House, when he had

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Speaker 5: everyone in a quorum, decided to break for the weekend

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Speaker 5: and give them four days to go strategize with the

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Speaker 5: hikeem Jeffries. And now they've left the state, so they're

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Speaker 5: denying quorum, which means that no legislative business can take place.

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Speaker 5: These Democrats openly admitted it. They've left the state. They've

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Speaker 5: driven out of the state, they've flown out of the state.

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Speaker 5: A lot of them have gone to Illinois, which, by

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Speaker 5: the way, their map is way more Jerry manner than anyone.

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Speaker 1: Could accuse Texas of doing.

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Speaker 5: I think Texas's map is legitimate on a from a

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Speaker 5: lot of perspectives. But they're denying quorum. Now, this is

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Speaker 5: important to understand. The governor of Texas can basically vacate

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Speaker 5: their seats. He can say that they have abandoned their position,

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Speaker 5: and under Texas constitution and various precedents, he can just

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Speaker 5: deem these as vacant. Now He did put out a

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Speaker 5: press release this morning saying he was going to begin

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Speaker 5: in that process, but he was going to do it

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Speaker 5: through a path that goes through the courts instead of

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Speaker 5: just doing it unilaterally, which is kind of just Abbot

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Speaker 5: being abbot, which is he says what people wants to hear,

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Speaker 5: but if you read in between the lines, it's like

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Speaker 5: bare minimum. That's kind of what he's doing again, is

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Speaker 5: the bare minimum. Also, the Texas Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 5: Dustin Burroughs, who allowed all this to happen, He basically

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Speaker 5: laid it out on a platter for these Democrats to

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Speaker 5: do what they're doing. In many ways, he's complicit. He

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Speaker 5: has the ability, through the Sergeant in Arms to issue

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Speaker 5: arrest warrants. Now they can't effectuate those outside of the

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Speaker 5: state of Texas because they don't have jurisdiction. But there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of other things they could be doing. They

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Speaker 5: could be stripping the funding for all these Democrat offices,

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Speaker 5: including their staff. They could be charging them all of

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Speaker 5: the costs of the sergeant in arms encouraged in order

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Speaker 5: to go try to find them. They could start a

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Speaker 5: lot of different things. They could strip them of their chairmanships,

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Speaker 5: and committee responsibilities. There's a lot of things that could

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Speaker 5: start to happen today. I think we'll need to see.

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Speaker 5: But my guess is that Dustin Burrows more so and

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Speaker 5: probably Greg Abbott will do the bare minimum. I hope

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Speaker 5: I'm wrong, and I hoping I'm especially wrong when it

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Speaker 5: comes to Greg Abbot.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see some real leadership on.

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Speaker 5: This side of him. But that's basically where we're at.

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Speaker 5: They've got to get these Democrats back into the U

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Speaker 5: on the Texas floor, lock the door shut if they

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Speaker 5: need to, and force them to remain while this business

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Speaker 5: is conducted.

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Speaker 1: As long as we're talking about redistracting and the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court apparently is going to get involved, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the legalities of all this. What might the Supreme Court say?

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Speaker 1: In fact, there's a lot we need to ask Bill

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Speaker 1: founder of Legal Insurrection, and of course Cornell University law

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Speaker 1: professor redistricting Bill. Is the Supreme Court get involved, then

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Speaker 1: why are they going to get involved that.

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Speaker 3: They are, Well, they're getting involved, They're already involved. In Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: There's a case that is up for argument. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if they've set a date, but it's before the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court as to whether there was unlawful racial gerrymandering

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Speaker 3: in Louisiana. But it's even bigger than that. The question

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Speaker 3: before the court is whether the Voting Rights Act of

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Speaker 3: nineteen sixty five, as interpreted by the Supreme Court is

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Speaker 3: unconstitutional if to the extent it requires that race be

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Speaker 3: taken into effect when drawing congressional districts. And that's huge

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Speaker 3: because what has happened in multiple states in the South

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Speaker 3: is that Democrats have secured extra seats, not sure we

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Speaker 3: have a precise calculation how many, but at least several

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Speaker 3: extra congressional seats because the states have been required to

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Speaker 3: have a certain number of majority black can rational districts.

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Speaker 3: And the question is is that constitutional. Can the Voting

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Speaker 3: Rights Act essentially do away with the constitutional protection of

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Speaker 3: equal protection? And that's the issue that the Court has

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Speaker 3: just requested extra briefing on. It's unusual, it's not unheard of,

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Speaker 3: but the Court on its own said, hey, we want

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Speaker 3: more briefing on this specific issue. And so that's what's

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Speaker 3: before the Court, and it will be enormous if the

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Speaker 3: Court rules that the Constitution prevails, not the Voting Rights Act,

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Speaker 3: and that the courts cannot insist that various states create

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Speaker 3: majority black districts. In fact, Clarence Thomas, who of course

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Speaker 3: is you know, an absolute you know, you know star

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Speaker 3: on the Court, wrote a separate opinion on this issue

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Speaker 3: of taking up extra briefing, and he said, hey, why

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Speaker 3: don't we just decide it?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: What are we stalling for? So it's pretty obvious which

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Speaker 3: way he's going to go, and there must be a majority.

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Speaker 3: Were the significant number of justices who were at least

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Speaker 3: interested in such a ruling, and it would be an

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Speaker 3: absolute earthquake for the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So honestly, I can see people sitting up in

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Speaker 1: their chair. I can see them right through the camera

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Speaker 1: right now. Bill's saying, wait, we have racial districting in

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Speaker 1: the country for a lot of people. Because this is

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Speaker 1: so deep down in the weeds, they just don't ever

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Speaker 1: get all the way down there. They didn't even realize

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Speaker 1: this was a thing. But states really sit down and

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Speaker 1: try to carve out a special congressional district for black people,

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Speaker 1: don't they.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, and Historically, the reason was is that in

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Speaker 3: certain states they gerrymanneder districts to deprive Blacks of having

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Speaker 3: any real voting power, and so there was a pushback

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Speaker 3: against that. But the argument now is we're beyond that.

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Speaker 3: This is not nineteen sixty five anymore. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and that statistically and the analysis show

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Speaker 3: that that sort of you know, racial detriment, that sort

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Speaker 3: of essentially boxing black voters out of existence, isn't a

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Speaker 3: thing anymore. And so therefore, why are we still doing this?

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Speaker 3: And that's really the issue that the Court's going to

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Speaker 3: have to decide. And it's I think significant that in

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Speaker 3: the briefing before the court, what decision are they talking about? Well,

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Speaker 3: they're talking about the affirmative action decision. And now that

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Speaker 3: we've had that ruling in twenty twenty three from the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court, why aren't we applying the same principles to

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Speaker 3: congressional districts. And so this would be the fallout from

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Speaker 3: the affirmative action ruling in twenty twenty three. And if

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Speaker 3: this happens, when I say, it will be an earthquake

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Speaker 3: for Democrats. It could cost them. I've seen estimates of

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Speaker 3: five to ten seats around the country. If this, if

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Speaker 3: race neutrality becomes the measure for congressional districting, and you

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Speaker 3: will see hows not abortion ruling level of hows not.

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Speaker 3: You know, violence in the streets. But given the current

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Speaker 3: political posture, there will be screams if the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: consistent with the Affirmative Action ruling, says you cannot take

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Speaker 3: race into account when drawing congressional districts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I believe we live in a place where that's

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Speaker 1: a thing. All right, let's move on to other things. Bill.

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Speaker 1: I thought we solve this problem of these lower court

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Speaker 1: judges stopping the President of the United States over exceeding

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Speaker 1: their authority, wildly over exceeding their authority. I thought, all

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Speaker 1: this got shot down. Yet every single day I wake up,

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Speaker 1: I roll over, I pull up my phone, and there's

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Speaker 1: a new wacky judge doing something. Why is this still happening?

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Speaker 3: Well, as I predicted on your show previously, we can

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Speaker 3: roll the tape that what the Supreme Court did was

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Speaker 3: great in theory, was significant when they ruled out these

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Speaker 3: universal injunctions. They've been doing decent things in terms of

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Speaker 3: issuing stays of lower court injunctions. But it's still happening

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Speaker 3: because because you have district court judges who disagree with

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration. You read their opinions and they're like

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Speaker 3: political manifestos, and it's essentially an insurrection against the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: And the Supreme Court has refused to be very clear

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Speaker 3: with the lower courts what the lower courts need to

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Speaker 3: do when they issue a stay, which means put on

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Speaker 3: hold one of these crazy injunctions from a district court,

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Speaker 3: for the most part, the Supreme Court doesn't explain why.

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Speaker 3: And so then what you have is you have another

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Speaker 3: judge comer long similar case, and the judge says, well,

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Speaker 3: we never actually got a reasoning from the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: We don't know why they put that other injunction on

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Speaker 3: a hold, So there's nothing for me to follow. I'm

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Speaker 3: not bound by anything. John Roberts, I've said it before,

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Speaker 3: needs to use his bully pulprit against the district court judges,

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Speaker 3: much like he has used it against Trump and Trump supporters. Okay,

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Speaker 3: when they've criticized the Court, but in many district courts,

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Speaker 3: not all, but in many of them, there is an

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Speaker 3: insurrection against Supreme Court authority. They are refusing to follow

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court rulings. And the excuse they're using is, well,

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Speaker 3: we don't have clear guidance from the Supreme Court. Well,

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court needs to start giving them more clear

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Speaker 3: guidance and needs to set out the ground rules, because

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Speaker 3: what's happening now is running out an attempt by some

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Speaker 3: judges to run out the clock. You can't read their opinions,

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Speaker 3: you know, and not come to the conclusion that they

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Speaker 3: just don't like the Trump policies and they just don't

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Speaker 3: like Trump, and therefore they're going to rule a certain way. Again,

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Speaker 3: not all of the judges, but enough of them to

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Speaker 3: really muck up the system.

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Speaker 1: What's happening in Rhode Island. Are white teachers being targeted?

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Speaker 1: What's happening here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Legal Insurrection and our Equal Protection Project for

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Speaker 3: almost three years has been challenging an outrageous program in

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Speaker 3: the Providence Public School District, which is the largest school

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Speaker 3: district in the state by far. It's a disaster in

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Speaker 3: terms of student education. It was so bad the state

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Speaker 3: had to take it over. So the kids are proficiency

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Speaker 3: at grade level is some place around ten percent of

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Speaker 3: the students, but the district is obsessed with Yes, it's horrible, horrid,

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Speaker 3: beyond horrible. I've seen for math. I think it's below

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Speaker 3: ten percent at grade level. And so the district though,

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Speaker 3: all they care about is DEI, All they care about

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Speaker 3: is racial stuff. And they created a program along with

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Speaker 3: the group called the Rhode Island Foundation, the largest charity

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Speaker 3: in the state, a billion and a half dollar charity,

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Speaker 3: to hire more teachers into the system because nobody wants

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Speaker 3: to work there, and the charity would pay off up

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Speaker 3: to twenty five thousand dollars of their student loans for

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Speaker 3: new teachers, with a big catch, only if you're non white,

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Speaker 3: and they literally named the program the Educator of Color

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Speaker 3: Loan Forgiveness Program. We challenged it. The Department of Justice

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Speaker 3: has now opened an investigation. The EEOC Employment Opportunity Commission

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Speaker 3: just came out with the final determination that this was

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Speaker 3: likely a violation of the law. But in Rhode Island,

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Speaker 3: they don't care. Rhode Island's a heavily democratic state, but

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Speaker 3: worse than that, it's become heavily progressive. It's a far

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Speaker 3: left wing. It's not like the old Democratic Party in

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Speaker 3: Rhode Island, which was very blue collar, working class. Now

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Speaker 3: it's the elites and they are pushing these things and

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Speaker 3: they don't care. We have complained loudly. We've gotten a

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Speaker 3: lot of media coverage. The Attorney General asilent, the political

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Speaker 3: leadership is silent. Fortunately, it looks like the Trump Department

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Speaker 3: of Justice and it looks like the Trump EEOC are

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Speaker 3: going to go after the school district. But the question

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Speaker 3: I'm asking is why aren't they going after this Rhode

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Speaker 3: Island Foundation. Rhode Island Foundation helped create the program, administer

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Speaker 3: the program, and fund the program. So I've been calling

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Speaker 3: for a year now, over a year now for the

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Speaker 3: Department of Justice to go after the Rhode Island Foundation.

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Speaker 3: And that's what's going on. This is emblem man of

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Speaker 3: the problem at the local and state level, even though

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Speaker 3: we have all these great Supreme Court rulings, even though

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Speaker 3: we have all these great civil rights laws that progressive

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Speaker 3: Democrats do not care and at the state level, they

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Speaker 3: will not be held accountable.

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Speaker 1: Stay on on, Bill, appreciate you as always. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's light in the move next. All right, it is

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Speaker 1: time to lighten the mood. And Elizabeth Warrene, I'll play

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Speaker 1: you the video. In a moment she fell on the

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Speaker 1: Senate floor, and believe it or not, I'm not playing

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Speaker 1: this to make fun of her, because actually don't think

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Speaker 1: it's funny when old people fall. It's always bothered me.

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Speaker 1: I'm playing this because I feel like this is happening

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Speaker 1: to me born more and I don't know why. I'll

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Speaker 1: lean on something that's not very solid and I'll just fall.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to sit down. I did this last night

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Speaker 1: in my chair. I tried to sit down and I

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Speaker 1: kind of missed the chair, so I sat on the

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Speaker 1: arm of it and almost fell off it. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's happening. Maybe it's just getting older, but I

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Speaker 1: feel you, Liz.

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Speaker 3: Senator's about gonna get permanent.

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Speaker 6: Well with Block Rochester, Drvin Heinrich, Brono King, I seeable