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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks presented by

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Speaker 1: Zaxby's DJ. Bucky Back with you, Buck, how's it going man? Man?

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Speaker 1: Everything is good? Man. I can't can't complain. It's uh

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Speaker 1: a weird Thursday because we don't have Thursday football, but

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Speaker 1: it's an exciting football weekend coming up. Yeah. It gives

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Speaker 1: a good opportunity to remind people the other project we're

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Speaker 1: enjoy Taylor. Um, just kind of hanging with you as

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Speaker 1: the game. So that'll be back. We've been doing that

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Speaker 1: on Monday with Bills and Chiefs, which should be a

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Speaker 1: a good time, but a lot to get to today, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I want to start though, with what's going on with

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the teams that would make

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Speaker 1: these second contracts for running backs, which we've had that

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Speaker 1: made sense. I know some people had insinuated, why didn't

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Speaker 1: Levan Bill is a unique running back and I always

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Speaker 1: then in year two and yuar three you can get

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Speaker 1: over the top. Yeah, a lot of draft picks for

433
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Speaker 1: the Jets after that Jamal Adams trade. Now the pressure

434
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Speaker 1: is on to to make sure you hit on those.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get to this big matchup we've

436
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Speaker 1: got this week here. We've got the Brady and Rodgers

437
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Speaker 1: Packers going to take on the Bucks first of all, Rogers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I see that. It's you see the m

439
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Speaker 1: v P right now. I don't want to get into

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Speaker 1: this whole m VP debate with all a million names,

441
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Speaker 1: but just I think he's playing Let's put this way.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen him play better than he's playing? Right? No?

443
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Speaker 1: I mean he's playing back to the level at two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eleven um when he won the m v P.

445
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Speaker 1: He's won it twice. I think this is his close

446
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Speaker 1: to two thousand eleven when you look at the numbers.

447
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Speaker 1: But I will also say this, and we we've talked

448
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Speaker 1: about this on the podcast before, Aaron Rodgers is the

449
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: most talented player to ever play in this system. This

450
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Speaker 1: Shanahan system, we have seen take average two good players

451
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Speaker 1: and make them great. We saw the Shanahan system transform

452
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan into a B B plus quarterback into an

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Speaker 1: m v P. We saw Jerry Golf go from being

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Speaker 1: a guy that was singing it out as a bust

455
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Speaker 1: to being a guy that could lead his team to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Kirk Cousins um Baker Mayfield is playing

457
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Speaker 1: in it. We're looking at Joe Burrow now begin to

458
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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to play in it. It is a

459
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Speaker 1: system that really really works because it elevates the performance

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback. I will say that Aaron Rodgers has

461
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Speaker 1: been up. I mean like he's been the one of

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Speaker 1: the top two three quarterbacks in the league for a

463
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Speaker 1: long time. But anyone who is sitting here saying it,

464
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Speaker 1: over the last three years, you didn't see a regression.

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Speaker 1: You're not being honest. Aaron Rodgers had played off the script,

466
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Speaker 1: and Rodgers was a guy who preferred to play kind

467
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Speaker 1: of in an improvisational way as opposed to stand within

468
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Speaker 1: the structure of the offense. What I see this year,

469
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Speaker 1: he's playing within the structure of the offense. And what

470
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Speaker 1: the offense does. It gives you so many layups that

471
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Speaker 1: you get into a rhythm. Now that you're a rhythmic passer,

472
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Speaker 1: the ball is going through the hoop and you're Aaron

473
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Speaker 1: Rodgers with special arm talent. Now, those those lottery tickets

474
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Speaker 1: that we're seeing Jimmy Garoppolo miss and Rogers cashes those in.

475
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Speaker 1: And so when people are talking about, oh, the receivers

476
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Speaker 1: and this and that, Yeah, because the system creates opportunities

477
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Speaker 1: for the receivers to get one on one. You don't

478
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Speaker 1: need an A plus receiver to be able to cash

479
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Speaker 1: in on one on one opportunities that they're diagramming up.

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Speaker 1: But what you do need is a quarterback that can

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Speaker 1: put it in the strike zone when you get those

482
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Speaker 1: four or five opportunities in the game. And that's what

483
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Speaker 1: the Packers are doing. So yes, Aaron Rodgers is playing

484
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Speaker 1: at an m v P level. But I think Matt

485
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Speaker 1: la Fleur deserves a ton of credit for crafting an

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Speaker 1: fence that is elevating a high end quarterback to play

487
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Speaker 1: at an m v P level after he had kind

488
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Speaker 1: of begun to regress a little bit. I'm trying to look.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking up these seasons here because we had my

490
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Speaker 1: homes a couple of years ago who had the you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns. But I honestly think Buck, we could be

492
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Speaker 1: headed towards a fifty I'll say it, like a fifty

493
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Speaker 1: and five, which is fifty touchdowns and five or fewer picks,

494
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Speaker 1: Like you think. I think it INSes me. Fifty touch

495
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Speaker 1: he's on he's on pace right now for fifty two

496
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Speaker 1: touches throwing to pick. Yet he's on pace for fifty

497
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Doesn't you know he's not gonna throw picks,

498
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Speaker 1: He's gonna throw it in the stands or I know

499
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Speaker 1: he isn't. But but I'm just saying, like I think

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Speaker 1: that you're looking at a potential fifty and five less

501
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Speaker 1: fewer out fifty tubs. Wow, I mean I guess, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I guess he I mean he's

503
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Speaker 1: on pace, but man, can he can he sustain that pace?

504
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Speaker 1: I'm excited, just need get out. And so Peyton Peyton

505
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Speaker 1: had fifty five having ten in thousand thirteen fifty five touchdowns,

506
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Speaker 1: ten picks. So and I think Mahomes was similar in

507
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Speaker 1: terms of the number of picks. Brady has his fifty

508
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Speaker 1: What year was his fifty touchdown season? Was that two? Eight?

509
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Speaker 1: Somewhere there right? Uh Randy Moss West Welker eight? So yeah,

510
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Speaker 1: so he was fifty and eight fifty touchdowns, eight picks.

511
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think I think the MVP race,

512
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Speaker 1: like when we're really having an honest discussion, Um, the

513
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Speaker 1: MVP race comes down to Russell Wilson and you can

514
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Speaker 1: throw Aaron Rodgers. I wouldn't put Josh Allen in that discussion.

515
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Speaker 1: I think it's been a nice story the first quarter

516
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Speaker 1: of the year. But I think more teams are going

517
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Speaker 1: to take a page out of the Titans playbook. They're

518
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna play zone coverage, They're gonna test his discipline and

519
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Speaker 1: see if he's discipline enough to take the checkdown in

520
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Speaker 1: that force the hero throw. And I don't know, Um,

521
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Speaker 1: I think right now that Nod has to go to

522
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, because Russell Wilson is doing it with lesson

523
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Speaker 1: before when the Bill screams about whatever the package deficiencies,

524
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Speaker 1: maybe I would say this, it's the worst defense of

525
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Speaker 1: all time when it comes to yard out. Like the

526
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks defensively are not what we think when we

527
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Speaker 1: say Seattle. They're not the legion of boom. They're not

528
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Speaker 1: just dominant defense that played in the early two thousand

529
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Speaker 1: tents that were able to dominate UM. I would say

530
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Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers, I don't know how good the package

531
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Speaker 1: defense is, but I think it's better than than the

532
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. But this game, to me is really telling,

533
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: and we'll be revealing UM and we're a real a

534
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: lot about the Packers. We've seen that Tampa Bay defense.

535
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Speaker 1: That Tampa Bay defense is good, and the one thing

536
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Speaker 1: that Tampa will do is they're gonna stop the run.

537
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Speaker 1: So they're gonna stop the run, and they're going to

538
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Speaker 1: force Aaron Rodgers to play in these must throw situations.

539
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Speaker 1: And they may be able to force them to playing

540
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Speaker 1: these must throw situations where play action isn't a factor

541
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Speaker 1: and if it becomes a drop back game, are the

542
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Speaker 1: Packers wide. I was good enough to get open without

543
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Speaker 1: the flash fakes and the threat of the run action

544
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Speaker 1: diverting the eyes of the defense. That's what I want

545
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Speaker 1: to see. And then I want to see the back

546
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Speaker 1: of his defense. Are they good enough to stop what

547
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Speaker 1: could be a reloaded Tampa Bay Bucks offense. They may

548
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Speaker 1: get Chris Goodwin back, also may get Leonard for Nett

549
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: back to go with Rojoe and those things. So I

550
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: think this would be the first test. Will we'll be

551
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Speaker 1: able to kind of use it as a measuring stick

552
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Speaker 1: to see how good the Green Bay Packers are. I

553
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a shootout. I think you're gonna

554
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Speaker 1: see a bunch of points in this game. I think

555
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Speaker 1: both quarterbacks played well. I'm betting on Tom Brady's pride

556
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: because the frustration coming out of that Thursday night game

557
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: not knowing the down and distance at the end of

558
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: the game, not knowing it was fourth down, and the

559
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: frustration that came along with that. I I look, I'm

560
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: not as confident when we get to week fourteen and

561
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: fifteen with Tom Brady that that he's gonna be able

562
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Speaker 1: to maintain. I think you're gonna see some fall off

563
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: there at the end of the year at his age.

564
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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, this week is a pride game,

565
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Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not gonna ever doubt Tom Brady

566
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Speaker 1: to deliver on a in a big moment when his

567
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Speaker 1: pride has been hit a little bit. So I think

568
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a good game. I think they're gonna

569
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Speaker 1: be able to score some points down and they're gonna

570
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Speaker 1: hit some big shots down the field. And I think

571
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Speaker 1: on the other side, having watch the Tampa secondary against

572
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Speaker 1: the Chargers in Herbert, they were able to go max protect.

573
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: The Todd Bowls likes to blitz a lot if you

574
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: can get it, if you can get it called up

575
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: where you've got protection, and then you can isolate down

576
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: the field. They have a very young secondary, it's the

577
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: youngest secondary in the National Football League, so um, I

578
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: think they'll be able to attack down the field with

579
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers vertically. So I think this is I think

580
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: this game is in the thirties for both teams. Yeah,

581
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: I do believe that we will see points. Here's the thing, man,

582
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: that the Tom Brady thing kind of scares me because

583
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: this this offense is morphing into the Patriots offense where

584
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: it's all over the middle of the field. The thing is,

585
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if the piece is fit for how

586
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady wants to play. Also, they're gonna have they

587
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: will need to remove the bankie from Tom Rob Gronkowski.

588
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: They have to they have to get they have to

589
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: get Gronk off the field because as long as Gronk

590
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: is on the field, Tom Brady is going to go

591
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: to him in critical moments because the trust factor, and

592
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Speaker 1: so to protect him against himself, you have to eight

593
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: seven off the field because they're better players on that offense, Um,

594
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Speaker 1: Mike Evans, all those they're better, They're more consistent, they're

595
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: more dynamic. Rob Gronkowski is not the grunk that has

596
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: dominated league and will be a Hall of Fame player,

597
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: and so you've got to remove him from Tom Brady's

598
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: eye to give this offense an opportunity to fully flourish.

599
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: And so we'll see. We'll see if the package jam

600
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: to Chris Godwin will help. Though, because we talked about

601
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: the little the field. Chris Godwin can work out of

602
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: the slot and do a lot of and and so

603
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: that's it's going to be critical to get them back

604
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: because they need a better and more dynamic option over

605
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: the middle of the middle of the field to work,

606
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: because these defenses are going to continue to jam the

607
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: middle of the field and force Tom Brady to throw

608
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: the ball outside the numbers. He will do it on occasion,

609
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to make his living throwing comebacks

610
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: and outs and those things outside of the number. And

611
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: that's because of the insecurity that he has with his

612
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: arm strength on those throws. Having a bill is just

613
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: wearing us out on here. I mean, I don't even,

614
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Speaker 1: I don't even. I don't even what do were going

615
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: to lose? That's uh, he is so invested in the packers. Look,

616
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Speaker 1: I want to hit you up one more thing, hair

617
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: buck about First of all, North Carolina, are you number

618
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: five right now in the country? Yeah, right now? And

619
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Speaker 1: they play uh Florida State this weekend, which is only

620
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: scary because the brand name is Florida State and you

621
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: want to make sure you give them to do that.

622
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: They they are, but it's a maturity game in terms

623
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Speaker 1: of is Carolina mature enough to take care of business

624
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: and just kinda knock them out To be honest, Sorry,

625
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't watched Carolina I like Sam, how

626
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: but are you guys really this good? Or is it?

627
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: Or is it the fact of Virginia text? Whole team

628
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: had COVID last week? What what is it? Uh, they

629
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: would have been Virginia Tech anyway, Um, visiona take is

630
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: always a nightmare matchup. Here's the thing, It's really hard

631
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: to determine how good anybody is right now because everyone

632
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: is kind of playing within their conference. Originally Carolina would

633
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: have played Auburn and UCF Like the Auburn game would

634
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: have been a test Like okay, cool, They're they're physical

635
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: enough to play outside of their deal or whatever. I

636
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: will say this. They have two good running backs. Uh.

637
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: The quarterback is playing good, not great, and they have

638
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: a ton of playmakers outside. Offensively, they're as good as

639
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: anybody when it comes to being able to move up

640
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: and down the field and do some things defensively. Chaster

641
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Surat is a first round pick. He is a uniquely

642
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: talented off the ball linebacker. He is kind of the

643
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: new school thing in terms of what you want DJ like.

644
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: He was a former quarterback, right, former quarterback. But I

645
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: will say this, um, because my dad always tells me

646
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Speaker 1: everything like the Bill is with the Green Bay Packers.

647
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Speaker 1: My dad is that with Tario football on Tario so

648
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: chas Sir Rott and his brother who's a wide receiver

649
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: at Wake Forest, they always won a bunch of state championships,

650
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: not only in football but also in basketball. Really good athletes.

651
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: And so Surat was a quarterback and a safety. Um

652
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: he made the transition to linebacker in spring ball last year,

653
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: went from spring ball linebacker to be an all a

654
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: CC defender, And so he doesn't even really oh how

655
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: to play the position, and so it's scary to think

656
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: about what he could be when he really gets someone

657
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: that can do it. And I want to go back

658
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: to this because we talked about fit in scheme and

659
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: I want to hit you on this because I've seen

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00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: you tweet about Jeremy Chen and the Carolina Panthers. Jeremy

661
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Chen was the quote unquote poor man's version of Isaiah Simmons.

662
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been keeping up with Isaiah

663
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Simmons's version of Isaiah Simmons now right, and Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: isn't playing for the Cardinals. Isaiah Simmons is not in

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Speaker 1: the rotation for the Cardinals. And the danger that we

666
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: talked about in this It's one of those things where

667
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: we talk about in the meetings like, oh, well, the

668
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: defense coach is always like, oh, I take him out

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Speaker 1: and figure it out out. Well, now you have him

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00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: in DJ they don't have a spot form because Buddha

671
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Baker is so good at safety that you can't put

672
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: him in that spot. The safety is playing beside him

673
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: is also a really good player, and linebacker Devandre Campbell

674
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: is absolutely balling for them. And then you have Jordan Hicks,

675
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: who's a solid player in their scheme, and so they're

676
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of left without a true position for him, and

677
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to put them on the field.

678
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: And we can talk about fit and scheme and hey,

679
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: do you build around the player or do you get

680
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: a player that fits your scheme. And I'm looking now

681
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of people that are expressing

682
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: their frustration over Isaiah Isaiah Simmons not playing. But you

683
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: and I have both been in front offices where we've

684
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: seen this happen. It happened in Carolina with Thomas Davis.

685
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Speaker 1: For US, we drafted Thomas Davis and said he was

686
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Speaker 1: gonna play safety. Thomas Davis was not a safety he

687
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: was a linebacker and so his first year we absolutely

688
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: wasted him until we put him at linebacker in cleared

689
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: space for him to get on the field. I worry

690
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons wasting years until they figure out how

691
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: to fully deploy him. Well, the scary thing about the

692
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Speaker 1: Cardinals is because you have the history of Hassan Reddick

693
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Speaker 1: coming in as a first rounder, another tweeter, another one

694
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Speaker 1: who hasn't played, didn't really work. Um, So that's that's

695
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Speaker 1: kind of the concern there. Man. I like that Isaiah him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surprised that they have not been able

697
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Speaker 1: to craft some type of a role for him. Um.

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Speaker 1: But he he's struggled. I think it was early in

699
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: the season against Sanranci the San Francisco game. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had a he had a tough time against Rainymoss.

701
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Speaker 1: But like Rickie's gonna have those things. I think the

702
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Speaker 1: bigger thing, I just don't think they know where they

703
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: where he fits. And I think it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things even when we're doing it, because we talked about

705
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: like the Swiss Army knives and the hybrids and doing it,

706
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Speaker 1: I think Carolina was better position to handle a player

707
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Speaker 1: like that because their guys are coming from college, and

708
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: in college, that's kind of what you do in the

709
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: New spread, particularly in the Big twelve. You take these

710
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: dynamic athletes and you put him at the second level

711
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: and hey man, you go run around and make plays.

712
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Speaker 1: And so I think Matt rulandose guys had a clear

713
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Speaker 1: vision for how the plan. I think when you have

714
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Speaker 1: older school guys like Advantage Joseph, who's look a buddy

715
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Speaker 1: of mine, I just don't know if they really know

716
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Speaker 1: what to do with a player like that. And I

717
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: think it's it's one of those things that it's tough

718
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Speaker 1: to you anyway. Here's here's one of the thoughts I

719
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Speaker 1: have on this. I want to get your takeaway on it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like with guys that are versatile, you're still

721
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Speaker 1: though you're better off having somebody that majors and minors

722
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Speaker 1: versus being a double major. Right, so he's seventy safety

723
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Speaker 1: and we'll let him dabble as a nickel um. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the double major the fifty fifty

725
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Speaker 1: or even if you're gonna three different things equally, I

726
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Speaker 1: don't know if that's the best way to go. And

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Speaker 1: that was that was the thing that was so difficult

728
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Speaker 1: because when you watched may Clempson, you know, we talked about, oh,

729
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: he played five or six different positions. He was over there.

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Speaker 1: In a way, it reminds me, and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: this he was the same player, but remember Jabrill Peppers

732
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Speaker 1: and how much he moved around for Michigan and all

733
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Speaker 1: those things or whatever. Like, I think your analogy is

734
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Speaker 1: great major major and something minor and the other thing.

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00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Because everyone I talked to and I talked to some

736
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: coaches leading up to the draft, they were like, man,

737
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where he is because they're like, hey,

738
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Speaker 1: it's all great, but as some point he has to

739
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: go to somebody's room for me. Is he a linebacker?

740
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: Is he a dB? And when I talked to people

741
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: that interviewed him, he was like, man, the danger is

742
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: and this is someone that wasn't with the Cardinals that

743
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Speaker 1: took he said, the danger is this. If you take

744
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: him a linebacker and then they're giving up plays at safety,

745
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: does he look to the back room of the eight coach,

746
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Speaker 1: I want to go to safety. If he's playing safety

747
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: and he sees linebackers getting action, eight coach, I want

748
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Speaker 1: to go to linebacker, and he says, sometimes it's harder

749
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Speaker 1: with a guy who has been given so much leeway

750
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: to kind of bounce around and do everything. That is

751
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: hard to put them in one spot and have them

752
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: really commit to being great in that one spot. And

753
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: two you give them the extra stuff that they can do.

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00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: You gotta have citizenship, right, you gotta be you gotta

755
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: be a citizen of country. Get your and bounce around,

756
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: but you better have citizenship somewhere. Yeah, like you have to.

757
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: You have to be able to um go somewhere. You

758
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: have to be able to thrive and flourish in one spot.

759
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: And if you're doing a rookie justice, hey let's put

760
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: him in this, Bob. We want to get you comfortable

761
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: to the pro game. And we do it. We saw

762
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: it with Make and Fitzpatrick. Make and Fitzpatrick in Miami.

763
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna bounce around or whatever, and they never really

764
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: get anything like it out of him to the to

765
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: the draft status. So then he goes to Pittsburgh. They say, hey,

766
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: you're the ornament on top of the Christmas tree. This

767
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do right now. Now he may

768
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: come in wine and more. Hey, I want to do more. Note,

769
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: you're right here, this is what we're doing, and he's

770
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: played better because at least he knows each and every

771
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: day this is what I'm going to do. And as

772
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: he matures, I'm sure they'll give him more. But right

773
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: now they're not asking him to do too much, which

774
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: can slow down to development and their impact ability. Yeah,

775
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: it's a delicate line because we've spent a lot of

776
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: time in the round for the draft last year talking

777
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: about these position list players and kind of where the

778
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: league was going and and hybrid guys that can do

779
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. You want that, but you

780
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: also want guys that can at least start off and

781
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: get you know, comfortable on one spot and then grow

782
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: into doing more of those things. It's tough to ask

783
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: these guys to come in as first year players and

784
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: facilitate all those different responsibilities. That's just a lot to ask.

785
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: It is a lot to ask, there's a lot to demand,

786
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: and and this is why coaches and scouts have to

787
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: be on the same page. And if you're not in

788
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: agreement on how the player is going to be used

789
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: or how he's valued, move on to the next player,

790
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: because ultimately, if you don't you get a situation where

791
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: you have Isaiah Simmons who is probably frustrated because he

792
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: can't find his way into the field after being such

793
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: a dominant player for all of his life. Yeah, that's

794
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: it's a good point. Um, all right, I do want

795
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: to get this out here. You can stream live local

796
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: and primetime games for free on your phone and tablet

797
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: by down an NFL app or the Yahoo Sports app. Um.

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00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: We challenge people. Put out a tweet yesterday showed some

799
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: highlights of Duke Johnson from high school. We were talking

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00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: about that the other day, and uh, and put the

801
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: challenge out to everybody. Go find that tweet and you

802
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: can even look up the full video. You can find it.

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00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's on huddled um and you can find

804
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: the Duke Johnson high school highlights. Go on Apple podcasts.

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00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: UM in the review section, leave us a rating and review.

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: Leave us to your little scouting report there on Duke Johnson.

807
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: We'll see what you got a little high school scouting

808
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Speaker 1: report here, and let us know also who the best

809
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: high school football player you've seen? Anything else you want

810
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: to have before we jump out of here, Buck, No, man,

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Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. Um. Yeah, the high school highlights.

812
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic. The one thing that stands out

813
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: to me when we look at the high school stuff,

814
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: guys don't really change the same place as you see

815
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: him make on Sunday, they're the same place they were

816
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: making on Friday nights. When you look at Odell Beckham

817
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: Jr's highlights, if he's making those one hand catches and

818
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: doing all the silliness that he's doing in the league,

819
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: he was doing there. And so you can't get a

820
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: sense um sometimes those dominant players, they they're easy to find.

821
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, can I just vent here for

822
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: one small second, and I'm not this has nothing to

823
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: do with politics or nothing to do with the severity

824
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: of the of the coronavirus, because I know you gotta

825
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: take it serious, But man, does it suck not having

826
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: high school football out here? Man? I know you was

827
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: yeah if uh yeah, it's been. It's been. It's been challenging,

828
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Speaker 1: you know, Like it's challenging in one term, in one

829
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: aspect because you want to be on the field. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing is dj like when when you see

831
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: high school teams playing in other states, you just wonder,

832
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how are they? How are they mitigating, like

833
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: an outbreak or any of these things. Like when you

834
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: hear Alabama have an issue with Nick Saban and all

835
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: this other stuff. I'm just like, man, what what are

836
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Like, what what are we gonna do

837
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: within the high school? Because you can't bubble up everybody,

838
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna have some things. It's it is frustrating. But

839
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: I will say, um, for those who are obviously around

840
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: something kalo like, it's ramping up because the month of November,

841
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: guys are under summer rules, so they get back on

842
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: camp and some teams are already working out lifting weights

843
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: and that stuff. Seven on seven will start in the

844
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: month of November, and before you know, a December four

845
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: teenth is the official kind of kickoff date. When it

846
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: comes to practice, you have three weeks didn't to get ready,

847
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm dialing and I'm trying to call Mike.

848
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Were able to figure out, Hey, what how what how

849
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: to work without practice? Yeah? What's that? What's that Waltrough

850
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: plan that you guys did? Uh? You guys were able

851
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: to due to kind of make it happen, But yeah,

852
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: unique circumstances. But how about this dj um, there's a

853
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: big ten kickoff this week, and next week is next week.

854
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: I think it's next week. I think it's the last

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00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: week of October, and then the PAC twelve goes first

856
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: week in November. How crazy is that? Right? Like, it's

857
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: it's so crazy to think because I'm looking at the ranks.

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Speaker 1: You talked about Carolina and I'm hi, your staying all

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Speaker 1: these other teams, and I just wonder when we get

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Speaker 1: to the playoff part. Yeah, I packed say, a Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve team that's only played six games, seven and oh,

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Speaker 1: how how are they going to be ready to deal

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Speaker 1: with teams that are played like ten and eleven games?

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Speaker 1: You know? Um, just the rhythm because the football has

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Speaker 1: been I mean, let's be honest, has been very offensive centric, defensive,

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Speaker 1: just just scrambling, just trying to keep up. Um, what

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Speaker 1: is this going to look like? Especially out here where

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Speaker 1: the ball typically flies all over the yard anyway, and

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Speaker 1: after Dart, like you see a lot of sixty point

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Speaker 1: games out in the Pack twelve man seven on seven seven,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's gonna be Um, it's gonna be ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: um to kinna see. So it'll be interesting. But I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it because if you put it

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Speaker 1: on at any time. Because there was a game one

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Speaker 1: last night, I college game Coastal in Louisiana, right and

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Speaker 1: it beat Louisiana. I know, top twenty five win for Coastal.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I gotta talk to my son about

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Speaker 1: that Coastal Carolina, like we can get if we can

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Speaker 1: get something going there, Like that's a beautiful place. Mantle

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Speaker 1: Beach is it Wilmington's or Myrtle Beach? Is it Myrtle? Okay? Yeah,

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