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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. I wanted to hop on here and share

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Speaker 1: this episode of the Bobby Cast with you guys, because

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Speaker 1: what we always do is we go through our messages,

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Speaker 1: we go through um anything we get tagged on an

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Speaker 1: actually done an episode with Red Akins and it's a

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Speaker 1: which it's really great. He talks about being a country

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Speaker 1: artist in the nineties, what that was like, and he

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Speaker 1: has written like so many number one songs, like pretty

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Speaker 1: much every song you hear on the radio at any

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Speaker 1: given moment, maybe Renick throwed it. And he talks about

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Speaker 1: a lot of the stories behind those songs. He actually

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Speaker 1: comes in wearing the boots that inspired Dirt on my Boots,

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Speaker 1: Like he was wearing those exact same boots and had

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Speaker 1: was a big country star. He's uh, father of Thomas Rhett.

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Speaker 1: So here it is episode one oh eight of the

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast with Red Akins. Check it out all right

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Speaker 1: here with Red Akins. He's good. Can you hear anything?

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Speaker 1: That's a trick of the podcast. We don't let you

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Speaker 1: hear what's happening. We're making everything. You're good. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: do you do today? I wrote today? Any good man?

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a question I can't answer anymore. I

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Speaker 1: hard to tell because there's so many sons. I've probably

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Speaker 1: and when I started, I really thought I knew. And

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Speaker 1: then the ones that you think this is a Grammy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the best song of all time.

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Speaker 1: He's still sitting on the shelf at my publican company.

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Speaker 1: it's all right. You know, nobody'll ever cut it whatever,

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Speaker 1: boys around here, nobody in the world will ever cut that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've got it, you just I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell anymore. So you cut boys round here

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Speaker 1: and you go out him. Now, this is another song

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Speaker 1: of the day. I don't Yeah, And it was the

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Speaker 1: demo that was different. Craig Wiseman built the track. The

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Speaker 1: red red red red Redneck came from Craig. Wiseman asked

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Speaker 1: Alice Davidson, one of the writers on the song, what

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Speaker 1: he had done that weekend, and Dallas said, oh, just

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Speaker 1: But Craig had the microphone rolling and and you know, Craig,

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Speaker 1: we didn't know it, don't even know this, but Craig's

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. Next thing, you know, you hear red red, red, red, red, red,

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Speaker 1: Rig goes, oh, let's ride. That was that happened because

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Speaker 1: ride came from me yawning. Actually um. And then Dallas

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Speaker 1: He's the raging ist, raging idiot they ever walked so

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Speaker 1: and with Blake Black just I mean, I've known Blake

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Speaker 1: you know, any country artist, Blake would probably be the first.

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Speaker 1: and everything he's done is just awesome. See you leave

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Speaker 1: think was Honeybee. It's a love song that's that's written

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Speaker 1: Hey Slip nor myself even have this title. This has

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Speaker 1: Red Atkins. I mean, it was the dumbest argument I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen on social media. But um, was that a

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Speaker 1: conversation you guys had? Yeah? We did. Yeah, he just

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Speaker 1: you know, I obviously there was Chat Atkins who started

426
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. Then you had me Trace Atkins and

427
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Speaker 1: Rodney Atkins and now you're gonna have you know, Thomas

428
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Speaker 1: Redakins whatever and or whatever his name is gonna be

429
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Speaker 1: and Thomas Akins. And I just said, dude, I said,

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Speaker 1: not only do we have we called you Thomas RTT

431
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 1: since the day were born. I just think it sounds cool.

432
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 1: It sounds like a stage name, you know what I mean,

433
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Speaker 1: It sounds like a cool name. So and you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get confused with me or Rodney or Trace or anybody.

435
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Speaker 1: And and so that's they were cool with it. They're like, yeah,

436
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 1: let's do that. It's been interesting because I've been here

437
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 1: long enough night to see him early early and then

438
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: see him now turning to the star that he is,

439
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: but also have been there since the beginning to where

440
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: it's we have a relationship because I was starting to

441
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just a little junior turd, you know,

442
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,479
Speaker 1: right about the time he was starting to blow up.

443
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: And so man talk about someone who is in five

444
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: years completely turned into a superstar, Like that's the one

445
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Speaker 1: where I go, I I watched someone go from artists

446
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: to a superstar. That's the one. Yeah, it's still weird

447
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: to me, Like I still don't believe it, Like like

448
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't totally. I mean, I know he

449
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: is one, but I don't. It's hard for me to

450
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Speaker 1: think of him. I still think I can tell him

451
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: what to do, you know what I mean. It's like,

452
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Stop doing that? You know.

453
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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think of him as Garthur. I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: obviously he's not that big, but I still don't think

455
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Speaker 1: of him as uh as a star. I still think

456
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Speaker 1: of him as you better be home by eleven o'clock,

457
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Speaker 1: you know whatever, Or did you change the all in

458
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Speaker 1: your truck? You know, because if you didn't change the

459
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Speaker 1: all in your truck, you're not driving it. Driving it

460
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Speaker 1: this week? Um it's weird to go on tour with him.

461
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: And the first show I went to last year on

462
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Speaker 1: his first headlining gig was was in Illinois, and when

463
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Speaker 1: we pulled up to the venue, I couldnot wrap my

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Speaker 1: head around that Luke wasn't playing tonight. I could not

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Speaker 1: get it. I was like these people, like look at

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Speaker 1: these people. I mean it was fifteen thousand cars out there,

467
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, and his name is the one on the market.

468
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Speaker 1: It's not Luke Bryan and Thomas Rhett. It was like

469
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: Thomas Rhett tonight, And um, I was like this is

470
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Speaker 1: this is weird? And what was weirder was going to

471
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Speaker 1: catering because I'm used to going to catering and seeing

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Speaker 1: a little big town or Miranda or somebody sitting over

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Speaker 1: there in their sweatpants, and it was him, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? I was like, this is your spaghetti?

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Speaker 1: Like you share the sitt in blakes, Like you're paying

476
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Speaker 1: for this, like you have a full time caterer out here,

477
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Speaker 1: and um, it was it was just like nuts, what

478
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Speaker 1: advice does he? Even? You have our thirty number ones?

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00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: So what advices he hit you? I forgot when he's like, hey,

480
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Speaker 1: help me out with this. It's different than it used

481
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Speaker 1: to be, you know when like when he first started,

482
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Speaker 1: he didn't know anything about what's the publishing deal? What's

483
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Speaker 1: a you know, is this look right in my contract?

484
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Speaker 1: What what? What is my manager supposed to do? Um?

485
00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: Real naive questions back then announce you know, dad, what

486
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Speaker 1: song should I put out next? Or that? Do you

487
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: think I've peaked? You know what I mean? Like he

488
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Thomas Schratt, he he thinks pretty deeply about his life

489
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: in his career, and like, I think that's what God

490
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Speaker 1: wants me to do. Like do you think I'm not

491
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: spending enough time with Willa? You know, it's it's like

492
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Speaker 1: real questions. It's not because he's got his manager and

493
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Speaker 1: booking agent and label and he didn't have to worry

494
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Speaker 1: about he didn't need me to tell him all those things.

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Speaker 1: She just like that when you came home off the road,

496
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Speaker 1: like were you just exhausted, Like was I bugging the

497
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Speaker 1: crap out of you to play soccer or throw the

498
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Speaker 1: football and you just didn't want to, you know, like

499
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Speaker 1: real real questions about especially since he has kids. Name. Um, yeah,

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00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: that's pretty I mean we've always been really close, but um,

501
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: it's really cool for him to finally, you know, now

502
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Speaker 1: that he's a dad, that we have a relationship like

503
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Speaker 1: on a different level, Like we can compare notes on

504
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: on kids and things. You know, do you see you

505
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: when you see him? Do you start? Not as much

506
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: as everybody else does. I mean everybody. I walk in

507
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: the room and they oh my god, you look just

508
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: like Thomas Redder. They tell him, you know you it's

509
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: just like your dad. Um, if I was thirty pounds less, maybe,

510
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Speaker 1: But because I I when you look at an athlete,

511
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Speaker 1: I don't see tr I watched the box and you

512
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: know he didn't. He didn't gravitate towards sports as well

513
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Speaker 1: as I did. I think one thing is when you

514
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Speaker 1: grow up in the in the South, in a small town,

515
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Speaker 1: especially like Valdosta, who's one of many football games, It's like,

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Speaker 1: what you do? I mean, it is like not even

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Speaker 1: a question. You come out of the womb, you're a boy,

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Speaker 1: you're playing football. And in Nashville there's a thousand high

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Speaker 1: schools here. Like I was so disappointed. At every game

520
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: I would go to see him play, there would be

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Speaker 1: three hundred people at the game because Nashville is so

522
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Speaker 1: spark I mean so spread out. On a normal game

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Speaker 1: for us, I mean on a game that we know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna win, fifty and nothing, people in the stands

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Speaker 1: and every Friday night I used I used to do

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Speaker 1: play by play for at the time it was Division

527
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Speaker 1: two SOLDI and they still maybe and they maybe. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they are now, but I used to play.

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Speaker 1: And we used to go down to Audusta because I

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Speaker 1: did play by play at Henderson State University as I

531
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Speaker 1: went to school with playing the same conference. So we

532
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: traveled down to all Dust and we would just get

533
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Speaker 1: crushed and we go lose seventy two, and it would

534
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Speaker 1: be the most miserable thing calling a college m where

535
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: you getting crushed becau, there's nothing to talk about when

536
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: you're getting woked. There's nothing to say that you haven't

537
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: said al and you're two minutes into the third quarter

538
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: and you're down fifty five and nothing, what do you say?

539
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: And that's my worst that those are my worst memories

540
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Speaker 1: of doing because on the road since and I was

541
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Speaker 1: it was I was a paid play by play guy,

542
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: and this is before I started doing on Fox Sports.

543
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't have a color guy on the road

544
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Speaker 1: because there was a money. I'd have a color guy

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Speaker 1: at home, but they wouldn't send a color guy on

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Speaker 1: the road. So I do play by play and color

547
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: losing seventy two. So um, alright, I formation one to

548
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Speaker 1: the left. Oh, a sack, that's the nineteenth stack of

549
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: the day. Well, he didn't grow up in that type

550
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: of situation. And so because you know, high school football

551
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: wasn't as huge in Nashville as it was for me.

552
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: He it just wasn't. He didn't grow up in that

553
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: environment to to to die to play football, you know

554
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. And he also Thomas Shrett I could

555
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: take a lot of abuse. I mean, number one, I

556
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: played quarterbacks, so I got hit all the time. But

557
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: our coaches, there's no way in the world, our coaches

558
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: from the eighties would have a job more than one

559
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: day to day. They would get fired. My coach wouldn't.

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00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: We didn't get water, they would say on the water unrewarded.

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00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: You only get water when you earn it. And that's

562
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: and now to even say you can't get water all

563
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: the time, it would be ridiculous. But there were people

564
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: throwing up. I mean we would do rolling wind sprints

565
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: and people be puking out of their face mask, and um,

566
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Speaker 1: somebody got hurt. The coach will say, you know, get

567
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Speaker 1: off my get off you're killing grasp bo we get

568
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: off my field, or somebody's laying there and they go move,

569
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: just move the huddle over and run to run to

570
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: play again. And uh. For some reason, even though I

571
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: didn't like it, I could take it. And Thomas Jrrette

572
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: could not. He he had to. His high school coach

573
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: and his little league coach were rough, and he just

574
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Speaker 1: he couldn't. He didn't like the the verbal abuse of

575
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: of sports. My duke were playing ball. Thomas Jrrett came along. Yeah, yeah,

576
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: well and I flunked out of school. Flunked out of

577
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: school and you got a kid. It kind of kills

578
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: your football career. But um, you know I went to

579
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Speaker 1: Georgia and uh, you know, I was on the scout team.

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00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: I played, you know, scout team, quarterback, Scout team, the

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Speaker 1: offensive the other team. Every week. Yeah, if we're playing

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00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: Old Miss that week or whatever I was, I was

583
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: doing Old Miss and I was having to tackle. When

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00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: I was playing defense, I was having a tackle. Rodney

585
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: Hampton and Tim Worley like guys that went pro. When

586
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: I was on When I was playing quarterback, Bill Goldberg

587
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: was the pose guard. You know, it was like, it's

588
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: the wrestler from Bill Golber played at Georgia and I'm

589
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: telling me, I got killed. So what was he like

590
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: as a ball player? Gold He's a beast like but

591
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: but back then he wasn't as ripped. I mean he

592
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: was just more bulky, you know. But now he's he's ripped.

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00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: But when you would see him w CW. Because I'm

594
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: a big wrestling fan too, I mean, I grew up

595
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: a freaking Arkansas. We're talking all my favorite things, wrestling, football, music.

596
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Did you watch wrestling at all that well, I mean yeah,

597
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: every every single Saturday night from the time I was

598
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: seven to us about seventeen. So if you if you

599
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: know wrestlers from the seventies to about eighties seven all

600
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: that once. Once I got out of high school, I

601
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: was I wasn't I know Stone called Steve Auston and

602
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: the Rock and all that stuff, but I don't follow it.

603
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: But did you watch the Goldberger area at all because

604
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: you knew Bill? Yeah, I watched the Sun. But I was, like,

605
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Dusty Rhodes, I remember, I mean the

606
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: American Dream was one of my favorst roads Rick Flair,

607
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: um Lex Luger, Sting, uh, Tommy Wildfire, Rich Junkyard Dog,

608
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: and I went to those. My grand I got a

609
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: Memphis like we had. First it was Georgia Championship Wrestling,

610
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: and then it became uh, I guess w c W.

611
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: And my granddaddy believed it so like so much that

612
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: the ritual of my my grandmother's house was Lawrence Welk. Yeah,

613
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: the Lawrence Welk Show, Porter and Dolly and wrestling. And

614
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling about my granddaddy. There's no doubt that that

615
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: Dusty got hit in the parking lot with a chair

616
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: and he's out. Like he took me to see Abdulla

617
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: the Butcher and Andre the Giant when I was eight,

618
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: and then we saw Tommy Wildfire Rich the Junkyard Dog

619
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Speaker 1: in the Fabulous Freebird Factous Michael P. S As And

620
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: then when I was about seventeen, we went to Tallahassee.

621
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Speaker 1: It was one of those huge, like all night thing

622
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: where you have the smallest of the small and it

623
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: was like, uh, who were the guys that were the

624
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: real college wrestling outfit? Signed? Yeah, Then they fought the

625
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Road Warriors and then it was Lex lucan Animal, Yeah,

626
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: Lex Luther and Sting and then the main event was

627
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Dusty and Ric Flair. And I remember touching Rick Flair's

628
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: arm as he as he walked down the all to

629
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: get to the ring, and I was like, that's That's

630
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: the greatest thing I've ever done. And then and then

631
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: I have Ric Flair's phone number, like I met him.

632
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I went on tour with Brantley Gilbert Um a few

633
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: years ago and he played in Charlotte. Brantley came off

634
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: the stage as soon as we walked back going to

635
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: the buses, Ric Flair walked by and I literally tackled him.

636
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: I went WHOA, And I mean I went up to

637
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: him and just bear hugged him and he wooed back,

638
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: and it was it was a wou contest for like.

639
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: It was like the Wu Tang clan. Me and Rick

640
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: Flair wooing each other and um, dude, we hung out

641
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: with him all night. He gave us his phone number

642
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: and I've texted him and called him a few times.

643
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: Do you watch the documentary I did. It was awesome. Well,

644
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: it was all some and really sad. I felt it

645
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: was excellent entertainment for a wrestling nerd like me. I

646
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: really thought it was fantastic. But man, I felt so

647
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: bad for him, like real. But he was awesome. And

648
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: I talked to Dusty Rhodes on the phone one time,

649
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: buddy of mine kind of knew him and has his

650
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: phone number. We just said hey, and just as you know,

651
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: I think I imitated him or something, you know, But um,

652
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: if I have a I wrote Black Shelton's new song

653
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: and the which it's called, I lived it, and the

654
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: and the lyric in the second versus Uh, the mold

655
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: Duke Boys were flattened in the hills. Hollywood was fake

656
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: and wrestling was real, like we really. I believed in

657
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: my granddaddy, especially believe it. Man, I could do a

658
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: whole show on wrestling, like I could do that Onery

659
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: the Giant documentary. Have you seen the previous for that?

660
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: I haven't, No, dude, that's amazing. Yeah, I still having

661
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: the key to call off t shirt like a Russian

662
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: I've got it's got the rush and sickle and he's

663
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: just standing there with his fist up or whatever. My

664
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: brother has a rip flair. Sure we can't. I have

665
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: all my concert tickets, all my tea I have in

666
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: a in a band in my house right now. I

667
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: have Molly Crue, def Flappard Whalen. I have every concert

668
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: t shirt ever ever went so and all the tickets

669
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: stubs like I've always just been the most like I

670
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: just idolize. I've always just idolized music and athletes. When

671
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: I wrote my first book, I wrote a passage you

672
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: about Sting because I talked about things that as I

673
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: was a kid, and I preferred the blonde haired Sting

674
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: more than the raven or whatever that ended up being.

675
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: And he wrote me a nice note that what got

676
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: to him? He wrote me a nice, nice note and

677
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: send it back to me. And the people that you

678
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: see as a kid that were cool are always cool

679
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: to you. The rest of your life. Because for me,

680
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm friends or I'm acquaintances with these massive

681
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: artists and they're just pete. There's just folks. But I

682
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: got on an airplane once with Barry Switzer and he

683
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: was on the Southwest fly and I was the whole time.

684
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: I was like, you got out of your mind. He's

685
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: a former raisorback. He you know, coached the Cowboys, coach

686
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: all the homma. I don't care about Oklahoma, but those

687
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: in staying, the Barry Switzers that you know, the guards,

688
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: those are the people that I really still go, oh,

689
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: that's that's it. That's who I idolized me too. I

690
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: definitely have my heroes, and I've met um, I've met.

691
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: I've met all the people on my list. The only

692
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: person I've met that I have to meet is Paul McCartney.

693
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: But Mick Jagger is my all time. I picked Mick

694
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Jagger over anybody on Earth. I met him, uh two

695
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: years ago. And I always try to not meet my

696
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: heroes because I don't want to be disappointed. I mean,

697
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to put all of your

698
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: hero hope into one meeting. So how did it go.

699
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I was disappointed to Mick because I felt like he

700
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: talked with me too long. I felt like that he

701
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: lowered himself by talking to me more than one minute's

702
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying to the old court, I

703
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: don't be a part of any group or stop like like, seriously,

704
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: you should have quit thirty minutes ago, thirty seconds ago. Um,

705
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: do you get a picture now? Because I couldn't ask him,

706
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: you don't want to run the two cool moments now

707
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: that I could not ask him. Um, But Keith was

708
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: taking pictures and I went over to ask Keith if

709
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I could get a picture with him, and his bodyguard said,

710
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: we gotta get him out of here, dude, you know,

711
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: so they kind of rushed Keith out. Um. But I

712
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: met guy Greg Almans, one of my biggest heroes. I

713
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: met him a couple of times. And Hank Junior is

714
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: my biggest country here. We we got to be buddies

715
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: and we fished and hunted together a bunch. Um. But Paul,

716
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's I would love to meet Paul. Okay,

717
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: so let me just ask you about the format for

718
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: a seconds. I think that something everybody talks about, like

719
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: how do you feel the country format is right now.

720
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome because there's so many different I mean,

721
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: everybody's got a shop, man, I mean I really do.

722
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: It's it's from the most traditional to the almost hip

723
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: hop to almost pop. I mean as you can get.

724
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: There's literally because I I mean I love it because

725
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: I grew up loving everything. I mean, I love um

726
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: Hank Williams Jr. As much I love Ozzy Osborne and

727
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Bill Monroe and run DMC. I mean I literally grew

728
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: up going to concerts and watching videos and buying records

729
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: of everybody. It doesn't it didn't matter who it was.

730
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: If the song was good, I liked it. I didn't care,

731
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: if you know. And so I think the country is now.

732
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: The country is um you know, branched out into so

733
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: many fields. I mean Thomas Redd has pushed it as

734
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's on the line there, he's way over

735
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: the line, but he's only he's pushing against the next line,

736
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: you know almost. And then you got Midland coming in

737
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: and going back all the way to you know, seventies country.

738
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: Um got came Brown killing it, you got Luke. You

739
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: know that's that's still country is crap. But but can

740
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: rock and pop it up a little bit. I mean

741
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: it's just I mean, as you got everybody. So when

742
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: someone says, well, that ain't country, yeah, I say that

743
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: all the time, you know. I mean I still I

744
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: grew up in South Georgia. I mean my heroes were

745
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: Hank Junior and Whalen and Willie and those people. You know.

746
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean a lot of the stuff that's

747
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: out right now is not country to me, um from

748
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: where I came from. But I love me, but I'm

749
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: just not a I'm not a country music snob like that,

750
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: because you know, I would try. I would go to

751
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: high school and I have on a Hank Junior T shirt.

752
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: I have OZ and You're written on my fingers like yeah,

753
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: and I let it, you know, kind of fade out

754
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: like you. I wouldn't wash it also at fade just

755
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: right on my note I still my mom still has

756
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: my my notebooks. I'm drawing the van Halen logo right here.

757
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: I got the rat logo written right here. I got

758
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: Whalen's w right right here. I run DMC. I mean,

759
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: I can't say, you know that ain't country, you know,

760
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: because I loved it all. I still love it. I'll

761
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: listen to just as much hip hop now as I do.

762
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: You know country? Um, I listened to pop. People have

763
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: always been saying, though, regardless of what the cycle is

764
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: and whatever or it is, that it's not country. Would

765
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: you think that that's fair? Was there? Because I talked

766
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: to Garth and Garth said, hey, when I came to town,

767
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: people were like, I'm not country, yesh, I's the country's

768
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: thing ever now compared to you know, we were. But

769
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: I mean this, you could have this debate for ten years.

770
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Jimmy Rodgers thought Hank Williams

771
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: was country? I mean they didn't want Hank Williams to

772
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: play on the opera because he had a snare drum.

773
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: You know that wasn't country. You gotta play doghouse base

774
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: and that's it. Do you think Hank Williams would think

775
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: that Whalan was country? Um? Buck Owens told me one time,

776
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: he said, man, he said, you know how long it

777
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: took me and Whalon to make it? He said they

778
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: hated us because we played electric guitars, you know, because

779
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: we were loud man. And now, I mean, you don't

780
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: think of anything but country when you think of Buck

781
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Owens or Whalon. Um there's you know, Merle Haggard wouldn't think,

782
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, Garth was country, and Garth don't think Thomas

783
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: Rutt's country, and Thomas Rtt won't think the next exactly.

784
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's always. At My point is whenever

785
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: I talk to magazines or I want to call and

786
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: say hey, what you say? Hey, this will always be

787
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: the question for the rest of time. It's always going

788
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: to be the cycle and the question, and the next

789
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: one up isn't compared to the last one out. I

790
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: mean Frank Sinatra, you know, he didn't like Elvis coming

791
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: along and messing up the flow, and Elvis didn't like

792
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: the Beatles coming along and messing up the flow. I mean,

793
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: they're all jealous and they're all, you know, it's taking

794
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: up and that ain't really I'm sure that uh all

795
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: the jazz puist thought Frank Sinatra was not true jazz,

796
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: you know. And if it ever does stop, don't you

797
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's broken. Then if it ever does stop,

798
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: and just sit And that's what I say a lot

799
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: of time. If you if you want the same thing forever,

800
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get the same thing, and it's not

801
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna there's gonna be no growth. I mean, I am

802
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: a snob and some things like like I love old bluegrass.

803
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: I want Bill Monroe, I want Stanley Brothers, I want ancient.

804
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: The only new bluegrass is out, I'll kind of I

805
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: really like, like Ricky Skaggs doing like ancient tones and

806
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: bluegrass rules albums that's new, but it's still the old.

807
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear new blue grass because that's

808
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: what you grew up with. That's where I grew up,

809
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: and I like, I like, and so I get it.

810
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I mean, I'm no different than any

811
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: fan out there that goes that ain't country, that ain't

812
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: hip hop, that ain't what rock music is, because I

813
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: think you define what real music is from from what

814
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: you grew up listening to. You know, I you know,

815
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: I love rap music, but I don't like it as

816
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: much now as I did. That's what I was gonna

817
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: bring up. I wish that they were still Nelly and Um,

818
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I still wish that there were melodies and

819
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: courses in the song. You could still be tought was

820
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: still hard but his melodies, but you had girls bumping

821
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: it to fift you know what I mean, the hip

822
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: hop analogy. It is great because people now older go, hey,

823
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: d that's you know, the twenty one Savages, the post

824
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: Malan's you know it's a mumble rapt. They're going, that's

825
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: a hip hop. It's it's not just our format where

826
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: this is happening. And some people do think it's this country,

827
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: oh country, but it's every single format. It was funny,

828
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: I guess I could say these names. They were curious funny. Uh.

829
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: This year on Thomas Stress tour, daniel Bradberry and Kelsey

830
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Ballerini were out on the tour and so after the

831
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: show we were all on Thomas Stress dressing room and

832
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: and uh, I was like, I want to be DJ tonight.

833
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: You know we always hang back there and crank music

834
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: or whatever. And uh so I was DJ that night

835
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: and I was playing nothing but Nellie and um, you

836
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: know nineties rap and eighties run DMC uh Houdini. I

837
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: mean I was playing like I was playing what I

838
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: think it's real rap music and Danielle and Kelsey were

839
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: dancing and they were having a good time. But finally

840
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: they came over and said, can you play some rap?

841
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, what do you think I've been

842
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: playing for last thirty minutes? They're like Daniel was like

843
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: you face a me goes you know, like I mean,

844
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: that's like somebody going you know, I mean, I'm playing

845
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: George straight all night and they're going, hey, can you

846
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: buy some country. It's a it's all art always evolves,

847
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: and every generation fills their art is what's the truest

848
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: exist And I don't think that you're that anyone's wrong,

849
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: but I do think that to think that you're right

850
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: is wrong. Like I know, if I go, oh, that's

851
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: not country, I'm not wrong. I don't think you can

852
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: have a creative opinion that's wrong. But if I go

853
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: for sure I'm right about that not being country, I'm

854
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: wrong because I'm not for sure right or wrong. Yeah,

855
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: well we're GONNATO. The whole philosophy, it's all. It's all

856
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: an opinion. But you know there are I mean, you

857
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: got every avenue in the world to listen to what

858
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: real country is, what you think real country is? You

859
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: got it at the touch of your phone, now you know?

860
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: And why for ten years and people go whi and

861
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: make songs like Whalen. Well, it's all there and there

862
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: are people that sound like whaling to All you have

863
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: to do is do I hate it when somebody goes, man,

864
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: if you heard so and so they sound just like whaling,

865
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: And I'll go, what's good about that? I mean, it

866
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: was like, why is that great? You know, like like

867
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: friends of mine, you know, they'll go to some local

868
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: bar and they go, hey, man, I'm gonna see you

869
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: this video. This dude sitting up on the stool playing

870
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: at the bar. Man, he sounds just like Alan Jackson.

871
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: And I'm like, but why is that good? Why didn't

872
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: he sound like what his name is? You know, that

873
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: would that would impress me more than he sounds like Alan?

874
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: You know, I mean people like familiar familiarity though, I mean,

875
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: I get it, but um, I just think nowadays you

876
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: can just if you want to listen to old bluegrass

877
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: or new bluegrass, just get on your pick it up. Man.

878
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: But you know this is commercial radio, you know, I right.

879
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: You know, I questioned myself all the time. I'm like,

880
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, should I try to write a song for

881
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: the radio or should I try to write something I

882
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: really to write? You know what I mean, because I'm

883
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: in the music business. But you know, people out there

884
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: riding around their car. They don't care about that. When

885
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: you say you wrote a song for the radio, what

886
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: comes to mind? What song did you write for the radio.

887
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a song that I didn't write for

888
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: the radio was was I Lived at Blake's new song?

889
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: We wrote that on the Farm tour two years ago,

890
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: and we said, let's write the realest song we have

891
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: ever written, so country that no nobody that was born

892
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: after nineteen eighty will get it. Nobody's gonna cut it.

893
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 1: Let's just write it because that's what we want to write.

894
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: And that's one of the rare ones that that somebody

895
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: recorded and and put out. But you know, I mean,

896
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: it's like you get. We write a lot with tracks

897
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: you know that we go in. I don't it's not

898
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: every day, and we just go on with a guitar

899
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: or piano. So we're sitting there and obviously if somebody's

900
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: playing a track and there twenty five years old, the

901
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: majority of it's gonna be sort of poplin and you know,

902
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: and um, you just kind of know you like that

903
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: sounds like the radio or you you play something, you

904
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: go that one. I don't know if radio would play

905
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, because radio is pretty safe.

906
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: You know, as as as adventurous as they have gotten

907
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: in country music, it's still pretty safe. And I mean

908
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: they want to know they do a lot of testing. Oh,

909
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: we do a lot of research, and that's why a

910
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: lot of troubles because I don't do a lot of research.

911
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: I just play whatever. Right, Yeah, you've done great with that.

912
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Not all the time, because we do have someone that

913
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: programs double music in general. But I get to go

914
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: and my company now lets me just go on my

915
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: own and if I think it's you know, but what

916
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: sucks is when you write a song like Farmer's Daughter

917
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: that I wrote for Rodney Atkins went to number three

918
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: because it didn't go one because of San Francisco station

919
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: in the l A station wouldn't play it because not

920
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: because it had cuss word in it, not because it

921
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: was offensive, because it said feeding the hogs, because what

922
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: people in San francs couldn't because in San Francisco. I'm like,

923
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: if you drive five miles out of San Francisco, their

924
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: feeding dogs, Like California is the biggest farm in the world,

925
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's see, I wasn't in

926
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: the format then, so those a little petty things like

927
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: that don't happen. There was a station in New England

928
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: that wouldn't play that ain't my truck because they said,

929
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: nobody up there, uh drive trucks. They all drive cars,

930
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: and it didn't relate to their fans. And thank goodness,

931
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: I wanna call her out. Lee Adams, who who was

932
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: my rap back then now is the head of broken

933
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Boat promotion. She went. She called every Dick car dealership

934
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: in New England and got their numbers and trucks outsold cars.

935
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: She she called. She sent it to the program director

936
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: in New England or wherever they were, and said, well,

937
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: you're wrong about who drives trucks and cars. But I

938
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: mean when you do this for a living. If I

939
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: was just writing songs because I wanted to write songs,

940
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting you know, paid, or writing for a

941
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: publishing company, you know, I would write whatever I want

942
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: was nobody's gonna hear it anyway. But if you're doing this,

943
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: you know you're getting paid, and you know it's like

944
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: that that bothers you. You think about it, you go,

945
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: I really want to say this, But because San Francisco

946
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't say hogs. Can I put this in it? So

947
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: all you know what I mean, It's like, is this

948
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: gonna deter a radio station playing this? Is this on

949
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: a turn? The turn Luke Bryan from from cutting this song?

950
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: You know, So it's it is a thought that you have,

951
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: and then some there's some days I succumbed to it

952
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: and I go, well, I really want to say this,

953
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll say this. And then there's some

954
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: days I just go screw it. We'll saying I'm saying

955
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: what I want to say. I don't care if it

956
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: gets cut or not. What about this one, because this

957
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: is a really country song. Fish That was the one

958
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: that was one that Luke was really scared wasn't gonna

959
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: work because it was two countries, two country and hunting,

960
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: you know every day. It's just weird. You know. We

961
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: just lived in a different time. And when I grew up,

962
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: I mean hunting. Never once in my life that I

963
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: think hunting was a bad thing until I moved to

964
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: Nationally and and me either because we and I hunted

965
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: a lot growing up. And it's a couple of things

966
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: I want to branch it to is because I grew

967
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: up in wet. I grew up poor and we ate

968
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: it or we gave it away, or we even with fish,

969
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: we either ate it or we gave it to somebody

970
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: that needed to ease. And even with what's happening with

971
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: gun is now, I don't think the two sides understand

972
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Because of how I grew up in the South. Guns

973
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: weren't this amazing thing where we looked at them in

974
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: fascination like people who aren't around guns me too, you know,

975
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: me too. So it wasn't a guns weren't this thing

976
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: from television. They were really just a part of our

977
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: every day. So it wasn't We're gonna take a gun

978
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: and and go do something crazy with it. Because guns

979
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: weren't crazy time. I mean, getting a four tim when

980
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: I was ten years old, natural thing on earth. I've

981
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: never won. I've never questioned what I ate until I

982
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: moved to Nashville because I'm fried chicken. I mean, I

983
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: want to go to Sweats every day, which is a

984
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: restaurant here and town the soul food. I mean, I

985
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: want to go to Sweats. I want to go to Arnold's.

986
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: I want to I want to go uh to any

987
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: country place. You know, I don't go to Arrago and

988
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't go to big fancy restaurants here in town.

989
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: I won't fried chicken, and you know, I'll drive to

990
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: McDonald's probably on the way home. Um. But it's like

991
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: you're you're righting with people from l A. And and

992
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: they look at like they look at me like, are

993
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: you raising you're gonna eat mcnal's. Like I'm nuts, you know.

994
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've written a lot of in l A.

995
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: You ought to see me in l A. I might

996
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: as well just walk in and go. Y'all think I

997
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: voted from Donald Trump. I know, I get it. Whatever

998
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: you can just look at me and you assume who

999
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: I voted for. But I was in l A writing

1000
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: with a bunch of pop guys, and um, they were like, Hey,

1001
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna order some food, you know, And I said

1002
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: where we're all getting? They wanted sushi and you know,

1003
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: salad and all this kind of stuff, And I was like,

1004
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: is there a way I could get a Snickers and

1005
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: a coke and a pack of Red Man And look, dude,

1006
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: I felt like I got Like the next day, when

1007
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: I wrote with different people, I hid my coke behind

1008
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: my chair because I felt embarrassed. If they think that

1009
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm drinking a coke, they like I'm bad person. Like

1010
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote with Andy Grammer out there and

1011
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: we went and got something to eat, and he got

1012
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: a salad and all this kind of stuff, and I

1013
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: ordered a hamburger, you know, and he was like, dude,

1014
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: I haven't eating hamburger in ten years. I think someone

1015
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: like that because I do spend a lot of time

1016
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: and and again again, I don't know if I'm someone

1017
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: in the mental healthy. I know it's not the healthiest

1018
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: food in the world, but I grew up in that

1019
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: environment and and like I went from a four ten

1020
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: to uh at a twenty two to a twelve gauge

1021
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: to a thirty OT six. That was the big one

1022
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: for me when I when I finally But then I

1023
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: have friends that have never had any gun at all,

1024
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: and because they didn't grow up with them. It's this,

1025
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: it's a it's a TV thing, and where if you're

1026
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: if you're not right in the head and you want

1027
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: a TV thing, you want to do TV things. And

1028
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: so I see my friends and are so piste off

1029
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: about what's happened with the guns, are like, you don't

1030
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: take that the guns. I grew up with them. It's

1031
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: not even a thing to me. When uh, my buddy

1032
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Dallas Davidson, his wife is from Australia and um, they

1033
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: had a kid a couple of years ago, and Luke

1034
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Brown and I got together and said, you know, when

1035
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: she has the baby's come up with a cool gift,

1036
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, for Dallas Dallas baby, and um, the first

1037
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: our first thought was let's get him a gun, you know.

1038
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: And so I went down to this cool gun shot

1039
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: and bought a twenty two, like a nineteen seventy pistol,

1040
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. And I think Luke got him shotgun. We

1041
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: obviously he can't do any of this for twelve fifteen years.

1042
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: But but Dallas's mother in law was just because she's

1043
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: from Australia and I guess you can't have guns at all,

1044
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: and you know that's just not part of the culture.

1045
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: Like she was just almost mad. I also, how in

1046
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: the world could you think of buying my grands on

1047
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: a gun? And it's because the sides are so different

1048
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: that they can't agree on anything. That's the crazy part

1049
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: to me. Well, when the as soon as you say

1050
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: gun control, it's over and the conversation is ever, I

1051
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: think we've got to have a way because I'm not

1052
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: into I mean this, this whole what's going on with

1053
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: these shootings and stuff. It's just it's just unthinkable, felt about.

1054
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: I hated the big right because I'm not a big

1055
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: fan of people having these les. I don't think there's

1056
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: a need for so either. I mean, I've never had

1057
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: I've never owned anything but hunting, you know, bow and

1058
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: arrows and shotguns and uh and a dear you know,

1059
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: dear rifle. I've never owned a r or anything like that.

1060
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: But we've got to have enough information. Both sides have

1061
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: to have legit info to be able to have this discussion.

1062
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: Because the first thing you think is they ain't taking

1063
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: my guns. And that's what all my friends think. They go,

1064
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: they're not taking my guns. To them, it's a natural

1065
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: part of life. And so two people I have other

1066
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: friends that live in Boston, for example, they're not they're

1067
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: not no, no, nothing about guns. And so again to them,

1068
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: they don't think anyone should have a gun because they

1069
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: haven't seen it be a tool of everyday living. And

1070
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: both sides create their own information. And what's happening is

1071
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: nobody does anything in the middle, because if you give,

1072
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: then you're giving, and we never come to any solutions

1073
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: because both sides are so freaking dug in when the

1074
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: real the reality of it is for me, because I'm

1075
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: one of the few that we'll talk about this, what

1076
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: do you feel like gun control? I said? First of all,

1077
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't say the words gun control. I'll say gun education,

1078
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: or gun anywhere you want to insert. I don't say control, though,

1079
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: because that has such a connotation. But I say, let's

1080
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: imagine that I'm driving a truck down the road. Now,

1081
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: I had to get be sixteen and pass the test

1082
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: to drive a truck, so I went to Hunters. I

1083
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: didn't did that in school. I did the things I

1084
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: needed to do to have a four ten or two.

1085
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: I said, but I can't just go from my truck

1086
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: to drive a bus without some sort of education improving

1087
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: that I know how to drive a bus. And I

1088
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: feel the same way about freaking weapons. You shouldn't be

1089
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: able to get an a R unless you get the

1090
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: bus license, and that bus license might be military, it

1091
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: might be, but I don't think you should be able

1092
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: to go and buy freaking a art right. And we've

1093
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: gotta have more mental checks too. I mean, there's gotta

1094
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: be if if if somebody, if you're a therapist or

1095
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: a doctor or whatever, and you know this person, something's missing,

1096
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: you know with this person, I think you've got that

1097
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: information has got to be somewhere where gun stores and

1098
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: places can see that. I don't think they don't care.

1099
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: Gun shows happen. And I've been to gun show and

1100
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: I'll admit I've been to many gun shows, especially when

1101
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: I was younger. They'd pop up Oliver, Arkansas is how

1102
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: we go. I didn't realize exactly how it was so

1103
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: every day that until you get away from it and

1104
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: you see others perspectives and you go, oh, I get

1105
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: white people can just walk up and just take a gun.

1106
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: Well that's why the song Hunting Fishing, we were all

1107
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: scared of it. You know, we were like, this is

1108
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: really us. We're not lying about this song. There's not one.

1109
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: This was a song that we didn't go you know,

1110
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: maybe we should we should tone that down or what.

1111
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: We didn't really say anything offensive in it, but it

1112
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: was just like Luke was, you know, like this is me,

1113
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: this is us, this is what we grew up doing.

1114
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: This is our lifestyle. You know, I'm an artist and

1115
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: I want people to know how I grew up and

1116
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: that that was a big decision and how my boys,

1117
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, how I raised my boys and stuff like that.

1118
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: And so Luke was like, uh, you know, boys, uh,

1119
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: this one might not make it. You know. It went

1120
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: to number one, you know, but we really were thinking

1121
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: it might die fifteen or something. You know. I gotta

1122
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: tell you, I never never heard any kickback on I

1123
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: didn't from my position a song that there was a

1124
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: lot of thought put into should we can, we will we?

1125
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: I never and I hear kickback but everything, Yeah, you know,

1126
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: it's weird. This song and Dirt on My Boots are

1127
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: the two songs that I get nothing but dude, I

1128
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: love that song from l A Riders and from people

1129
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: who don't know who don't write songs that country, you

1130
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They're like when that song came on,

1131
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe how many songwriters and term were like, dude,

1132
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: hunting fishing this bomb man and Dirt on My Boots

1133
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: is is freaking awesome. I was talking to Katy Perry

1134
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: because I'm doing Idol this season in the mentor, and

1135
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: so she said I didn't know anything about Luke Brian.

1136
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: I just know that one song, hunting, that's what that

1137
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: was the one song she said she knew that Luke did.

1138
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: Was that because I heard this one song. I don't

1139
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: even think it was real. She goes, it was like

1140
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: hunting and fishing and loving. So yeah, that's the one

1141
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: even her like, that's the one I think that others

1142
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: are like when I hear when I hear a rap

1143
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: song or a rock song or whatever, I mean, why

1144
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: do people why did why did young seventeen year old

1145
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: English kids in the sixties decide that a sixty year

1146
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: old black man from Mississippi is what they wanted to

1147
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: listen to. They have nothing in common at all, but

1148
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: they heard it and they went, dude, that's real, you

1149
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Talk about that specifically? Why did

1150
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: Keith and Mick and Eric Clapton and Robert Planting. I mean,

1151
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: these kids have nothing to do with the South in

1152
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: America and they and they they built their career on

1153
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: on these songs. And I think, you know, when something's real.

1154
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: I think when I think, like, there's probably a lot

1155
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: of people out there that they don't like country music,

1156
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: but if they heard hunting, fishing. They might not understand it,

1157
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: they might not agree with or whatever they go. That

1158
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: was real, man, you know what I mean, They didn't.

1159
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: They didn't fake that. I mean, you couldn't make that up.

1160
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: I think that's what draws people into other genres, you know.

1161
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: So um, I was proud of that song because we're

1162
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: really you know that that we weren't gonna be allowed

1163
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: to let the let those words be heard. But thank

1164
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: goodness it did. I mean, I gotta I'm obviously got

1165
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: to the whole library here. But man, you got a

1166
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: bunch of on I mean just printing money. You got

1167
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: money factory at your house, and I don't spend any

1168
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: of it. Are you pretty tight? I'm still drying well.

1169
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: I did buy a truck last year, but I still

1170
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: have my two thousand and eight for um, but that

1171
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 1: type you know, hunting me and stuff. But I didn't

1172
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: want to. I didn't really want to buy a new truck.

1173
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: The only reason I bought one is because I researched

1174
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: it for like three months, until they got so tired

1175
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: of me that I think they sold it to me

1176
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: for ten thousand less than the sticker to get rid

1177
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: of us. This one's. I was honestly surprised it wasn't

1178
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: up a Song of the Year. I really was. I

1179
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: thought it should have been. It's hard to it was

1180
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: a four week when what I heard it was four

1181
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: week number one, but it was. I think more people

1182
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: in America heard that song this year than than any other.

1183
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: The audience impressions were We're the biggest, or body like

1184
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: about road. Maybe was finished by the time this came out,

1185
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: because nothing beats that really and audience impressions, but I

1186
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: guess for two thousand and seventeen that song was the biggest.

1187
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: That was another farm tour song. Wrote it in the

1188
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: back of the bus in two thousand and fifteen on

1189
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: the day that the farm tour got rained out. So

1190
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: we were sitting like uh back hose, I mean, uh,

1191
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: bulldozers were literally pulling the buses out back backstage, and

1192
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: we just sat in the back of the bus and

1193
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: and wrote this, and um, I was a little tired

1194
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: from the night before. I just put one pass down

1195
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: on the microphone and I told Kyle, the guy who

1196
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: was recording it, I said, um, when we get back

1197
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: to Nashville, I'm gonna put a real vocal on that

1198
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna sing it really good and all

1199
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: that once again as another thing like Boys Running Here,

1200
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: where it got pitched. I didn't want it to be

1201
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: pitched because I thought I sounded terrible on it, and um,

1202
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Dustin loved it, and uh, when he went to singing

1203
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: in the studio, he sang it, and the label and

1204
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: everybody were like, it's good, but it sounds too good,

1205
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: like we've fallen in love with the demo and Rhet's

1206
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: lazy voice. Can you can you uns sing it? And

1207
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: so when he went in the studio to sing it,

1208
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: he laid on the couch while he's sang while he's

1209
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: sanging this vocals to to make the annunciation be more lazy.

1210
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: And they just said, just don't care, just sing it,

1211
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: you know. So that's weird how what I think sucks

1212
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: other people like, and then sometimes what I like other

1213
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: people sucks. You just stuck your stuff. Ross, we were

1214
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: talking about our friend Ross Copperman. One of my favorite

1215
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: Ross quotes. Um, he's a songwriter, producer in town, and um,

1216
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: I do the same thing with Rosso, But hey, let

1217
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: me come back tomorrow and I'll re sing that or whatever,

1218
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: and uh, and Ross was like when we started getting

1219
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: more cuts with my terrible vocal, what I thought was terrible.

1220
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: And I asked Ross and said, why do you think?

1221
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: Why do you think these people are cutting our songs? Well,

1222
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: my vocal is so bad? I said, as you think,

1223
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: because I don't care. And maybe I'm singing it just

1224
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: with more emotion and I don't care if it's in

1225
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: tune and this and that. You think they're like buying

1226
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: into my real natural singing voice better and he got no,

1227
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: I just think they think it's bad and they can

1228
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: sing it better than you do. I was like, thanks, Ross,

1229
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: I thought I had. I thought I was pouring out

1230
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: my heart and soul here, but uh, I was talking

1231
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: to Ross. I was with Ross over the house his

1232
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: place before I came over here. I said, Hey, you know,

1233
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know h We've we've met

1234
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: in passing a couple of times, very briefly. I don't

1235
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: really know him. He kind of looks like he beat

1236
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: me up, Like is he He's like, Oh, he's the

1237
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: nicest guy. Dude, he's the nicest guy. You're gonna love them.

1238
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Ross, he'son funny, he is funny man.

1239
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: We We just make fun of him and joke with

1240
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: him all the time. He's fantastic writer. This town is

1241
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: full of talent, man, I'm telling this. I don't know

1242
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: if there's any other city on Earth with as much

1243
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: songwriting talent, especially capital in an area. Yeah, I know

1244
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: l A's full, Yeah, New York, London, all of you know, Austin, Texas.

1245
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: But there's there's something about about Nashville. It's like one

1246
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: big high school, you know what I mean? Good and bad. Yeah,

1247
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I heard something in this co

1248
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: write and then tomorrow I told what I heard they

1249
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: singing that. You know, it's like going from English to

1250
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: history classes. Did you hear Braden Jenny broke up? You

1251
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like rumors. No, you can't

1252
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: say anything and without the whole road know it in

1253
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: in thirty minutes, you know. But it's awesome. I'm gonna

1254
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: run through a few of these. He wrote this for

1255
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: Thomas Rrette with Thomas Ratty Change you wake up Change.

1256
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I care. He texts me about that

1257
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: so long a couple weeks ago. Can we think about

1258
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: this song? Think? I think it's a great song because,

1259
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: like you think it works. It's like, yeah, of course

1260
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, that's a real one man. That's that

1261
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: was what he said. He said, is it too real?

1262
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: I said, you can't be too real, but there's no

1263
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: someing's too real. Yeah, he's a warrior man, just like

1264
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: you know they, I mean, all artists. It doesn't matter

1265
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: how successful I've I've I've been around the most successful

1266
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: people in country music, and um, you know, and got

1267
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: to know him really well. You know, when the fans think, God,

1268
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: they just got it together in their lives awesome and

1269
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: they don't worry about nothing. I was like, dude, you

1270
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: have no idea how much your hero worries. I wrote,

1271
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: I just fatiched my second book and I wrote a

1272
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: whole thing about it. That where that doesn't matter how

1273
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: big the artist is. They're still reading the the negative

1274
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: things somebody says on Twitter and calling their other super

1275
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: famous friends going men is really bumming me out. Humans

1276
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: are humans deleted. He hadn't been on Instagram in forty days,

1277
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, because he can't. He could have. Literally, he

1278
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: gets five hundred thousand likes every picture he puts on there,

1279
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: and you know, twenty thousand comments or whatever. If nineteen thousand,

1280
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: nine hundred ninety nine said you're the greatest thing God

1281
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: ever created. And one dude says you ain't country. He's done.

1282
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like that's that's the

1283
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: one comment. But I was like that too. It was

1284
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: like that one that one guy at the show that

1285
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: just wouldn't tap his foot, that was just staring at me,

1286
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: like you suck. You know. I thought about him the

1287
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: rest of the night instead of the other people that

1288
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: like the show, And I just think that's creative people.

1289
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: These are our babies, you know what I mean. It's like,

1290
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an artist, just like you write something,

1291
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: you play something, you do your show. When one person

1292
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: calls in, it was like, dude, you're terrible. You know,

1293
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: you're not funny. Whatever, it does hang with you, it

1294
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: bothers you because this is your baby, you know so.

1295
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: But it's cool that that that our biggest heroes in

1296
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: our favorite artists are just humans. Also, yeah, you don't

1297
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: grow out of having natural human feelings because they had

1298
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: Our heroes had them as they were in their less

1299
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: than mature stages of artistry, and they don't go away.

1300
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: If anything, they may get worse and so man, let

1301
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: me don't these baby made a couple of blocks love Aldine? Man,

1302
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: I get this guy? How about got your heads? I

1303
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: don't want let me ask you this. There any number

1304
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: ones that you just don't remember writing? No, because I'm

1305
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: well they all everybody calls me the you know, human

1306
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: juke boxer as rad he knows you know what I mean.

1307
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know why that. My brain always just remembers

1308
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: songs and things. Um, I guess because I'm so amazed

1309
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: that we wrote something that worked. I do remember pretty

1310
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: much every situation. That's one of the first songs we

1311
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: wrote with uh with Luke. We wrote that, guys in

1312
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: like two thousand nine or ten. What about writing with

1313
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: Thomas Ratt? How is that? How is that dynamic? It's awesome, man,

1314
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: It's it's never we've been right. I could send you

1315
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: pictures of me and him, videos of him when he's

1316
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: eight years old and we're writing songs together. We've always

1317
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: done it for fun. Never in a million years, you know,

1318
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: did we think we'd be doing it professionally together. But

1319
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: it's not weird at all. You would think, you know,

1320
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: we're writing a love songs. It seems weird, like let's

1321
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: writ let's let's write a love song with your son

1322
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: or with my dad. I don't know what's weird, You're like,

1323
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: write love song my dad right now, you know what

1324
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean. But, um, we're just buddies. I mean, I'm

1325
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: still is add and I you know, and we still

1326
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: have that role where he's my son and I'm his dad.

1327
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: But but at the same time we've grown to beat

1328
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: buddies also, you know, And so we can just sit

1329
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: in the room together and and and write anything and

1330
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: and uh, life changes was one of those where we

1331
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: just told the truth about his story. Yeah, you know,

1332
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: we wrote that in two thousands and tens. There's no

1333
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: demo of it. He found it on YouTube. So he

1334
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: found what He found himself singing it at a radio

1335
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: station in two thousand and eleven. Yeah, and thought, oh,

1336
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: I forgotten. And a lot of his fans had had

1337
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: searched all his YouTube videos and they found it that

1338
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: when you're gonna put start of the show out, you know,

1339
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: and so um, when they did the deluxe package on

1340
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: on his last album, um, he said, yeah, this dad,

1341
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: this song has just been sitting around and all my

1342
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: fans here and they requested in my meet and greets

1343
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: and stuff, and he goes, let's do it. So he thought,

1344
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: you know what, he thought it was too progressive, you know,

1345
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: like that doesn't sound progressive. I mean it sounds a

1346
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: little pop, but it doesn't sound way out of the box.

1347
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: But in two thousand and ten or eleven, gosh, that

1348
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: was that was like Bruno Mars or something, you know,

1349
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: for country. Most nervous ever been by the Song of

1350
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: My Life one because Thomas Shrett had already had two

1351
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: singles out before this one. He had beer with Jesus

1352
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: and uh, something to do with My Hands and they

1353
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: both went to about fifteen and um, he was worried

1354
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: the label. You know, it's like we really got we

1355
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: need when we've done good and we're happy with what

1356
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: we've done, but we we need a smash. And um,

1357
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: I think I heard you played it the first time

1358
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: when you when you said, okay, guys, you know this

1359
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: is brand new one from Thomas Hrett. Like I almost

1360
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: threw up not a lot Land. As soon as I'm

1361
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: bound out here, I was like, this is not a hit.

1362
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: It's not a hit. It's not a hit. I was like,

1363
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: I have ruined my son's career. He's done. Like, I

1364
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: was panicking when you played that song. At what point

1365
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: did you go okay? I think we got it when

1366
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: he played um. I went on the road with him

1367
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: and he played in Missouri at this little club called

1368
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: the Blue Note, and this song, I mean, I don't

1369
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: even think it was out of the thirties or whatever.

1370
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: It was probably a six hundred seat college crowd. They

1371
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: went nuts as soon as as soon as they went

1372
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: those drums came on and a down down the crowd

1373
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: went nuts and sang every single word. And that's like, okay.

1374
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: I was like, you see the upcoming hit that, yeah, exactly,

1375
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: But that one worried me. I mean, I'm nervous. I'm

1376
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: nervous every time one of my singles comes out, but

1377
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: it was when it's on your with your kid, it's like,

1378
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: if it fails, then I you know, I ruined my

1379
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: son's life. You know. I think about that with every artist.

1380
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Luke puts a song out, I'm

1381
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: just like, gosh, Lord, please don't let this be the

1382
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: one that doesn't work. You know, I don't want to

1383
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: be the guy, you know that screwed Luke Luca. But

1384
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: it's very nerve wracking when it's your wrong kid. It's

1385
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: like watching him pitch in the World Series. You know,

1386
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: you can't watch it, but you have to watch it,

1387
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: and you're nervous of everything they're doing. Well, I've enjoyed

1388
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: you coming up with the house. I appreciate that. One thing.

1389
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: We're hanging out again coming up. I think we're going

1390
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: to this wrestling. Oh that's right, Yeah, we are. If

1391
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: you're going yeah, yeah, it's Mankind, Foley, Yeah, whichever the

1392
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: mini names. That's funny because we are going to do that.

1393
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of wrestling, I didn't even think about that. Yeah. Yeah,

1394
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: he's telling a story and it's like a at a

1395
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: comedy club. But it's freaking Mick Foley, Mankind, Cactus Jack

1396
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: remember the Cactus Jack days when he was Captus Jack

1397
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: barely And I think I was out of rustling by

1398
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: that point, you know, but I don't. I don't. He

1399
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: wasn't George, he wasn't huge. And the Southeast I don't

1400
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: think it's it's funny when you said that, you know, Georgia,

1401
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: what was because mid South is where I was Georgia

1402
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: Championship Georgia because we had like Bob and Brad Armstrong.

1403
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: It was most local Atlanta wrestlers, but that's what turned

1404
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: into WCWS. And then Turner had it because it was

1405
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, because you know, TBS was in Atlanta, which

1406
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: turned into the National just like the Braves. I mean,

1407
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: that's why the Braves were the America's favorite team because

1408
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: everybody got to see him. I tell I knew who

1409
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: Del Murphy was exactly he was. I was a huge

1410
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: Dale Murphy freak man. Sawma diired Cubs fan partially for

1411
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: the same reason because w g M was in everybody's house.

1412
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: You go up in Arkansas, you don't have a team,

1413
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: and so my stepdad was a huge Cubs fan because

1414
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: he got to watch them. Pass it on to me.

1415
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: So the same thing. I watched the Braves because the

1416
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: Cubs never played at night. This is still day game

1417
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: because I don't have lights. So I watched the Cups

1418
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: of the daytime get from school and I watched the

1419
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: Bravest w g N two. So we watched them and

1420
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: like Bozo the Clown and Boo yeah, the group freaking

1421
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: Grand Prize game. We thought the six Cups and I

1422
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: would have never seen it without cable tvycle if you

1423
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: get number six, know exactly what you're talking about. Well,

1424
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: let's not. I appreciate you coming by. I know you

1425
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: got some hit songs to go, right, but good talking

1426
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: to you. And now when I see you, I'll be like, hey,

1427
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: remember me, it's Billy when he came up with my house.

1428
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time here on the Bodycast