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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,

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Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Archi.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchion, my

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Speaker 1: co host.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: After a lengthy absence, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Fish is back. I'm back.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: They said you were dead.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I heard in a.

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Speaker 1: Horrible gangland shooting.

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Speaker 4: I heard that.

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Speaker 1: I heard, uh, very possible love triangle gone wrong. These things, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, all these things.

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Speaker 4: It was good.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be here. Good to Uh. I don't

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Speaker 3: like your new butler though, your comstock or whatever over there.

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Speaker 4: It really does.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I wanted. I wanted a butler with

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Speaker 1: the attitude. If you can't have a snooty butler up

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Speaker 1: at all the poison, yes, And if you're going to

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Speaker 1: release the hounds, you have to have Doberman's right, Dobermans.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, I'm not going to release the poodles, right.

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Speaker 1: And I realized that Doberman is not technically a hound.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's not in the hound lineage fans.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you release them with a false sense of security.

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Speaker 3: They're like, oh, that's not so bad, but you've trained them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that could be the dope. Do you mean the poodles, Yes,

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Speaker 4: the pool Yes, I know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now I could release Scraps and Pepper, at which point

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Speaker 1: people would probably laugh.

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Speaker 4: Pepper is a little bit intimidating. Scraps.

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Speaker 1: Scraps can get punted pretty hard. Oh yeah, it would

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Speaker 1: be would be today's show. We are going to break

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Speaker 1: down the key wide receivers and tight ends coming up

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Speaker 1: in this draft. This show one week from today. One

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Speaker 1: week from today, we'll be doing a recap of the

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Speaker 1: first round.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and everything we will have said today will be relevant.

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Speaker 3: Just I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna I hope that's I hope we get

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Speaker 1: at least some of these landing spots right, because we

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Speaker 1: are going to give possible landing spots that make sense

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Speaker 1: for these guys. We're going to talk about who they are,

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Speaker 1: what kind of game they have, what is their fantasy

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Speaker 1: upside downside, I'm I'm very excited to start breaking down players. Yes,

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Speaker 1: last week we did running backs and.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, and this week we're doing tight ends and slot receivers.

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Speaker 4: Is that's what class? You're exactly right. There's so many

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Speaker 4: slot guys in this class.

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Speaker 1: I think had most of this draft class been in

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Speaker 1: last year's draft class, I don't know any of them

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Speaker 1: would have gone in.

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Speaker 4: The first round.

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Speaker 3: I think Jackson still would have maybe I think he'd

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Speaker 3: be but I think you're right. Other than him, Other

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Speaker 3: than him, who you know, Chris olave and both said

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Speaker 4: Okay, well that says a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that says a lot. And he help performed them

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Speaker 4: That's fair, That is fair. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Although next year the OSU receiver is going to be

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, and he was also there with three

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Speaker 1: right exactly. We'll actually touch on him a little bit

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into let's let's get into the wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the guy you just mentioned, Yeah, Jackson

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Speaker 1: Smith in Jigba in Jigba.

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Speaker 3: Yes, uh, he was mostly a slot receiver, but he

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Speaker 3: can play outside two degree. But he's a most mostly

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Speaker 3: mostly a slot receiver. Most of his career. I already

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Speaker 3: he gets to eighty three percent slot and slot receivers

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Speaker 3: and any NFL aren't exactly what they were in the past.

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Speaker 1: Although that's still I think broadly across thirty two teams.

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Speaker 3: That's a good That is pretty pretty. The thing the

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Speaker 3: he still would have gone first round.

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Speaker 4: Las ye, and I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 1: I think he is in a tier by himself. He

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it wouldn't it be fun? I was thinking of

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Speaker 3: this and I'm not really I know you're you're a

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Speaker 3: he goes to Houston at twelve after they take c

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Speaker 4: I'm totally order with that. And that's my projection is projection, okay.

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Speaker 1: And so that's you know, I hope they do that now,

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of steam right now about

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Speaker 1: late steam is a lot of late steam is bad steam.

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Speaker 3: We know that April is just full lies.

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Speaker 4: April is full of lies. And I think you know Houston.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Houston, they like to pretend like winter's over

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Speaker 1: If I'm Houston, I am saying to myself, I don't

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Speaker 3: I think there's I don't think there's a bad spot

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Speaker 3: for Jackson just because he can't he can't play both.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, mostly a slot receiver, and there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of slot receiver openings in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Let's go from one's a lot of receiver to another.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison from USC there he does project to the slot,

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Speaker 1: although he played about only about fifty percent either way,

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Speaker 1: but just his build, he's so thin and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: He was even more productive at Pitt the year before

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Speaker 3: was a lot of press coverage at USC, so that

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Speaker 1: And that's going to be a problem for him, and

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Speaker 1: this small, thin frame of his. I'm nervous that Jordan

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Speaker 1: Addison won't be a reliable touchdown scorer from the slot

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Speaker 3: I think that's completely fair.

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Speaker 1: I think his downside, his upside to me is a

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Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Saint Brown level player if everything goes

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Speaker 1: perfectly upside. But his downside to me is Ron del Moore.

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Speaker 1: He's a big, a bigger version round. They threw so

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Speaker 1: many passes at the line of scrimmage. I'm watching Jordan

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Speaker 1: Addison to get fully prepped for this, and I went through.

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Speaker 4: Two games of catches.

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Speaker 1: Man, do they throw a lot to him at or

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Speaker 1: around the line of scrimmage? And that worries me. You

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Speaker 1: can't be fantasy productive unless you're Deebo Samuel another passes

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Speaker 3: Another downside player to that is remember Paris Campbell with

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Speaker 3: all those same type of plays where we would catch

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Speaker 3: But Paris Campbell's like twenty pounds more.

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Speaker 4: This twenty pounds more. He can break a tackle if

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Speaker 1: Jordan Adsen currently slated to go late first round, so

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Speaker 1: Baltimore I think would be the earliest he could go,

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Speaker 1: and they could use the help. The Giants make sense.

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Speaker 1: I think I like Seeding Lamb on the outside more

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Speaker 3: The Giants also makes sense because they don't stop bringing

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Speaker 4: Why not? Buffalo makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Zay Flowers, somebody that is getting he's

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Speaker 4: Round all over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, he's he's probably my number two actually in

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Speaker 3: this clast. I think he's explosive. I don't like his size.

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Speaker 3: the combine like it was thirteen pounds heavier. Like you

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Speaker 3: I cut that. We're gonna mention Amanra for every playoff.

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Speaker 3: That reminds me of how a Monra not just bulked up,

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Speaker 3: but he's like catching passes after practice, Like this guy

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Speaker 3: the effort. I love those kind of guys, but he's

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Speaker 3: still only like one to eighty three. But we're talking

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Speaker 3: about a guy for four four forty gets open quickly

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Speaker 3: in the route. His average depth of target was surprisingly

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Speaker 3: thirteen plus which he he does get stuffed downfield for

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Speaker 3: a guy, for a guy who legitimately can do the

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Speaker 3: shorter stuff, he does get past people. I've seen comps

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Speaker 3: all over the board on him, from Antonio Brown to

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Speaker 3: even Travis Benjamin to Tianta Johnson, who I think is

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Speaker 3: a lot shallower of a receiver. I think the one,

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Speaker 3: one of the better ones I've seen is Tyler Lockett.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you intangible I like about Zay Flowers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's got some I own this ball to him. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yes, you're stealing off of my notes I got.

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Speaker 1: I've got coming on Josh Downs come as well, so

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Speaker 3: You know. I have an interesting, like high level confer

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Speaker 3: Josh Downs we'll talk about, we'll talk about, we'll talk about.

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Speaker 4: All right down to me is really interesting. But he's

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Speaker 3: Hey there, I think I have him as my wide

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Speaker 1: Other people were really smart, other draft analysts I respect

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Speaker 1: like him a lot. I am nervous about track stars

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Speaker 1: He caught those deep passes you're seeing if you're breaking

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Speaker 1: they were going to Jalen Hyatt many times. He was

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Speaker 1: What I do like because he does have some ball

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're getting You're getting a total speed merchant

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Speaker 3: Is really right quarterback and system. He's a guy who

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Speaker 3: who when he did play with Cedric Tillman, Tilman out

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Speaker 3: it took us Tillman injury to break out. He does

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Speaker 3: a lot of these. A huge amount of his plays

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Speaker 3: He's not one on one facing the guy. He's behind

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Speaker 4: You're not going to get the NFL. You're not going

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Speaker 3: I think teams are better equipped to handle that. But

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Speaker 1: Jalen hyae total boom or bust candidate. I'm not telling

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Speaker 1: What I am telling you is I've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: I'm worried Jalen Hyat's going to be one now if

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Speaker 1: So he's got a ton to learn. If all that

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous about him being a middling or poor prospect

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Speaker 1: currently slated early second round for Jalen Hyatt. Obviously, Mahomes

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Speaker 1: there are other spots for Jalen.

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Speaker 4: Heighte I don't like.

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Speaker 1: But if he gets if he gets into the right spot,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's one of those guys, and I don't

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Speaker 3: put him here, But like a place I could see

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Speaker 3: but we saw that with Sky Moore and Kadarius Tony

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Speaker 3: You want them to work out because you expect them

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Speaker 4: The hard MC comp is not is pretty is pretty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a guy that really, you know, only

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Speaker 4: Rookie deal and they're like, I see you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just they just let him go. Let him

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Speaker 4: Quinton Johnson Johnston, thank you, excuse me.

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Speaker 3: I have done it on shows before. I've done it too.

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Speaker 3: I've done it too. I was gonna try to make

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Speaker 4: And I promptly did it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The six foot three, two under eight big guy

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Speaker 3: still really really like the prototypical size. Yeah, eleven plus

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Speaker 3: style guy. However, not that great a contested catches for

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Speaker 3: his siyes. You'd expect him to be better. Yeah, didn't

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Speaker 3: score a lot of touchdowns. You would have expected more

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Speaker 3: But I think he had six touchdowns last year, and

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Speaker 3: TCU were let's just throw it up to Quentin Johnson

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Speaker 3: and the contested catches I already mentioned, but he would

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Speaker 3: get open. He would get open for them. I do

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Speaker 3: have this guy as my number three because I think

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's a fair spot for him. Got

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Speaker 3: to remember also TCU smaller school, not not the same

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Speaker 4: But true, Yeah, although you know they did need to play.

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Speaker 1: And they did extensively in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was quieted in that National championship game

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Speaker 3: in that So all right, let's notock.

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Speaker 1: Josh Downs. Yeah, and I think we're I think you

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Speaker 1: and I are going to be on track with him.

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Speaker 1: He's my third favorite receiver in this class. Maybe less

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to hear what you think here. This is

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Speaker 1: a tremendous route runner. He finds holes in zones, He's

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Speaker 1: He plays bigger than his size, and we got we

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Speaker 1: got to talk about this now because he's five foot eight,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy two pounds. Yeah, Josh Downs Is,

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Speaker 1: he is small.

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Speaker 4: He is small, and you know, the top speed is

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Speaker 4: just okay.

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Speaker 1: He's not special after the catch and part because.

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Speaker 4: Of his size.

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Speaker 1: But what I love is the it factor. This guy,

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Speaker 1: I just is a freaking baller and you see him

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Speaker 1: feel like he owns the field.

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Speaker 4: That's I love it.

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Speaker 3: There are multiple people who have said he is the

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Speaker 3: best contested catch wide receiver they've seen in this class,

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Speaker 3: which is he's five eight eighty nine percent in the slot. So,

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Speaker 3: like you said, full slot guy. When I compared him

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Speaker 3: and I don't think he's this guy, but I'm like,

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Speaker 3: high level. If if he's going to win at the NFL,

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Speaker 3: he has to become this guy, and it's Steve Smith.

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Speaker 3: Just a really good route runner, small guy that is

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Speaker 3: the air, that's who he's got to be if he

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Speaker 1: I don't love that as an upside option for him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's the very far up. We're talking about a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer level, but it's the I'm talking to

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Speaker 3: skill set, Like amazing, He's an awesome route You saw

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Speaker 3: He is so smooth in his route running. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: if he can get to be that guy that he's

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Speaker 1: Tip of the hat to Dane Brugler, who noted that

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Speaker 1: Josh Down's father was former Giants running back Gary Downs,

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Speaker 1: who you may recall, and his uncle is Dre Bli

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Speaker 1: twelve years in the league and currently coaching I think

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Speaker 3: No, oh boy.

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Speaker 4: So okay.

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Speaker 1: The upside is for Downs, the upside downs, upside downs.

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Speaker 1: The upside downs is the as a productive slot receiver

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Speaker 1: who can do more than just like bubble screens and

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Speaker 1: slant routes, who can be effective downfield because he was

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Speaker 1: in college. The downside on Downs is that small frame,

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Speaker 1: the short height that he just doesn't score and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't at the NFL level. He can't win the physical

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Speaker 3: All these all these hyper productive slot guys in the

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Speaker 3: They're a lot bigger, yep.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm worried about that part.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Josh Downs is being slated to the mid

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Speaker 4: A slot receiver.

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Speaker 1: Seattle, they could use some, they could use more full

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Speaker 3: And yeah, with those two on the outside really opening

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be fun?

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia to replace Quez Watkins or upgrade Quez Watkins, who's

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Speaker 1: just okay, Kansas City again, it's sixty three is a possibility.

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Speaker 3: Buffloa to replace Beasley.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Buffalo to replace Beasley makes a ton of sense

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Speaker 3: In all of these it does seem like we're depending

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Speaker 3: people opening things up for him a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know it's true.

439
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Speaker 1: We could go much deeper on wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: That is the problem with Downs. I do think he's

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Speaker 3: one of those guys. I can see him being a

442
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Speaker 3: really good, a decent fit for an NFL team, But

443
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Speaker 3: is he good for fantasy?

444
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Speaker 4: Right?

445
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Speaker 1: And I'm not that part of I'm much more skeptical about.

446
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Speaker 1: You know, I have as my third wide receiver for

447
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Speaker 1: really non fantasy purposes. For fantasy purposes, he might fall

448
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Speaker 1: to fourth or fifth, But then again, it's a bunch

449
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Speaker 1: of other slot guys ahead of him. But a guy

450
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Speaker 1: like Quinton Johnson Johnston just profiles better for fantasy than

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Speaker 1: Josh Downs does. Let's take a break. When you come back,

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Speaker 1: tight ends, Let's talk tight ends.

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Speaker 4: Hang on tight.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited about.

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Speaker 1: One of the six tight ends, six tight ends that

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Speaker 1: we're going to break down three.

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Speaker 3: Six, Okay, sure, sure people are screaming and screaming right now.

459
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Speaker 3: We didn't talk about like Marvin Men's and got getting

460
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Speaker 3: first round.

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Speaker 4: Love, right, I know.

462
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Speaker 1: It's look, you gotta draw the line somewhere and that's

463
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Speaker 1: this is where we're drawing it. But rest assured post

464
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Speaker 1: draft we're gonna be doing deep dives on the actual

465
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Speaker 1: landing spots and all the players who we think matter

466
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Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, landing spots just so important. It's

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Speaker 1: all all the NFL and all fans.

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Speaker 4: It's all about opportunity. We need I want to know

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Speaker 4: landing spots. So we uh we did? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think we did six wide receivers, will do six

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Let's start with the consensus number one tight end,

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Speaker 1: Michael Mayer.

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Speaker 3: Does it feel like we've gotten to the point in

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Speaker 3: this offseason where Michael Mayer's just kind of gotten boring? Yeah?

475
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Speaker 4: I know, right, He's all around.

476
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Speaker 3: Good at everything. You know, when he plays, he he

477
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Speaker 3: doesn't look like he doesn't he doesn't look like Kelsey

478
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Speaker 3: out there, like he doesn't look explosive at any point. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 3: he's just good and solid, gets open, you know, like

480
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Speaker 3: good at everything, everything, good at everything. Arguably the best

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Speaker 3: tight end coming from a school that also produced Rudolph

482
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Speaker 3: Ifferd comed guys like that, and he's arguably the best

483
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Speaker 3: of them. We're gonna talk about tight end you later

484
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Speaker 3: and the other school that but three year player and

485
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Speaker 3: he was good all three years. He was you know,

486
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Speaker 3: used a ton. He was often a safety valve. Feels

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Speaker 3: like you're safe. He's going to go in the first

488
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Speaker 3: or second round to a team that needs a tight

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Speaker 3: end and he's going to be utilized. But I think

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Speaker 3: he lacks the true high end upside of those, you know,

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Speaker 3: those elite, top three type tight ends that we've seen

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Speaker 3: over the last decade or so. I will take a

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Speaker 3: moment here just to say I'm dynasty of rookie drafts.

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Speaker 3: And I mentioned this on the CBS podcast last week

495
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Speaker 3: or two weeks ago. I have trouble drafting dynasty tight

496
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Speaker 3: ends in rookie drafts in the first couple of rounds nowadays,

497
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Speaker 3: just because they take so long to get going.

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Speaker 1: I know, you have to be really patient and you

499
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Speaker 1: have to hit, yeah, like you have to.

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Speaker 4: He has to be good. He got to work out

501
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Speaker 4: and you gotta wait.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, like you know, I these are all grain

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Speaker 3: of salt if you can get them more in the

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Speaker 3: third round. But a lot of these guys are not

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Speaker 3: going that way.

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Speaker 1: I would rather buy I'd rather skip tight end in

507
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Speaker 1: my in my dynasty rookie draft. But then go buy

508
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Speaker 1: Jilani Jelanni Woods going into his second year from somebody

509
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Speaker 1: who's you know, not that interesting and trying to play

510
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Speaker 1: that out.

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Speaker 3: There are studies that buying a tight end in their

512
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Speaker 3: second year, the price doesn't drop as much as you'd think,

513
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Speaker 3: if not at all, but the third year it does,

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Speaker 3: and second contract it does, so.

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Speaker 1: So that might, you know, David and Joko is an

516
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Speaker 1: example of somebody who just labored for a long time

517
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Speaker 1: finally last year started to delivering.

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Speaker 4: Some of the promise as one guy.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Dalton Kinkaid from Utah. Fifty

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Speaker 1: year senior led all FBS tight ends in receiving yards

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Speaker 1: and receptions per game. Pretty impressive. Those are per game average.

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Speaker 1: Now there's a reason I'm gonna mention that unbelievable ball skills.

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Speaker 1: It's all a ball skill guy. He's amazing mid air adjustments,

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Speaker 1: great hands, tremendous balance. He catches in stride and then

525
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Speaker 1: breaks tackles after the catch, makes defenders miss.

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Speaker 4: He's pretty darn fast.

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Speaker 1: For a tight end as well. Dalton Kincaid Utah threw

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Speaker 1: to him all over the field, including deep patterns downfield.

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Speaker 1: They're throwing forty yards downfield the Dalton Kincaid and he's

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Speaker 1: getting open. He's not a great blocker, but he's a

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Speaker 1: willing blocker, and that may end up limiting him as

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Speaker 1: a three down tight end at least until that part

533
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Speaker 1: of his game comes around, if whatever does. But then again,

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Speaker 1: you know they don't ask Titands to do that so

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Speaker 1: much anymore. He had Dalton Kincaid had against USC a

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Speaker 1: sixteen target, sixteen catch game for two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: four yards. He only had drops in five years at Utah.

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Speaker 1: Granted he was only a starter for the first the

539
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, but he was getting mixed into

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Speaker 1: the bit for the years before that. But still four

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Speaker 1: drops in five.

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Speaker 4: Years for Dalton Kincaid is very impressive. Now.

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Speaker 1: The worry on Kincaid is he's short and slender. He

544
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Speaker 1: reminds me of Isaiah Likely who You look at.

545
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Speaker 4: Him and you go.

546
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Speaker 1: Is that a big wide receiver or is that a

547
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: small tight end? And that's a little bit what Dalton

548
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Speaker 1: Kincaid's got, and that part worries me a little bit,

549
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: but that's more of a problem for like run blocking.

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00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't care about run blocking. I'm here for the receptions.

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00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: Pass protection also not great. Just the blocking is not great,

552
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Speaker 1: but again that's not what we're here for. So he

553
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: brings immediate pass catching jobs. I think puts him on

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Speaker 1: the field right away with ooever drafts him. And granted,

555
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: the run blocking the pass protection are great enough for

556
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Speaker 1: him to be a three down player, but that's okay.

557
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: He'll fill out his frame. He'll probably get better in

558
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Speaker 1: those areas later on. And like most Rooki tight end,

559
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: as we just mentioned, you're probably drafting him for twenty

560
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty twenty five more than you are twenty

561
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Speaker 1: twenty three. Anyway, I've got Dalton Kincaid going to Dallas,

562
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Speaker 1: so it can be.

563
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Speaker 4: A Dalton replacing a Dallas.

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Speaker 3: That's what Dalton versus.

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00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: D Sorry, that's what you want, Mayor, that could be.

566
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Speaker 3: The safe safety valve that Mayor is. That's kind of

567
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: what Dalton sholl. Yes, but yeah, I mean Dallas is

568
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: just a great spot.

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Speaker 1: For for Daltons for Dalton's yes, uh, Cincinnati at pick

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, Sure, what do you think about that?

571
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 3: To IRV Smith can be the blocker?

572
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: Then Smith, what do you think of this air apparent

573
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: to Travis Kelcey, Dalton Kincaid draft him now, knowing that

574
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: the end is coming and you would have another.

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Speaker 3: US tight ends in that offense. That would be interesting.

576
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Speaker 4: Nobody at the skill set Dalton Kinkaid's go.

577
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Speaker 3: No. Every time I see a tight end like Kincaid,

578
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Speaker 3: and granted Kincaid is shorter, it reminds me of Jason Morrow,

579
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Speaker 3: who I thought with like so productive, such a move

580
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: tight end, such a pass catcher, and just not at

581
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Speaker 3: the NFL level, but that Texas Tech offense was very

582
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: productive back then. But yeah, Like, I like Concaid a lot,

583
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Speaker 3: and I think he's the one with probably the highest

584
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Speaker 3: fantasy ceiling in this But I'm gonna give you.

585
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Speaker 1: My next guy I think has a higher ceiling.

586
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: But we'll wait a minute I get to him.

587
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: I think your next guy should go to Miami and

588
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: be a blocker.

589
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: It could happen too. We'll find out now.

590
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: The next guy we're gonna talk about is Luke Musgrave,

591
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: and I have not really broken him down at all.

592
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Speaker 1: So get me up to speed on Luke Muskreve.

593
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Speaker 3: You know what, it doesn't surprise me that you think

594
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: that would with your MOLEI Cox love and your Yeah,

595
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: like I get it, I get it with your.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear more about my guy in a minute. Luke

597
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: must Grave from Oregon State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's his size, speed, dependable hands, He's a smooth runner.

599
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: He doesn't lumber like some of the wider some of

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Speaker 3: the tight ends in this He actually has smooth fluidity

601
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Speaker 3: to his running. My biggest problem with him is like,

602
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Speaker 3: first off, injury concerns. The second thing, a lot of

603
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: a lot of the issues, especially recently. The second thing

604
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: is like he only scored two touchdowns last year, not

605
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Speaker 3: really a touchdown score. That at least hasn't been a

606
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Speaker 3: touchdown scorer. So I think, like I have him actually

607
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: below the guy you're going to talk about.

608
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: Next, because the guy I talk about next is better.

609
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's kind of a tough evaluation, honestly. Not

610
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: just two touchdowns last two touchdowns in his college career. Yeah, yeah,

611
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: never never.

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Speaker 1: You know, some offenses just don't use their tight end

613
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Speaker 1: and that spot.

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Speaker 3: Or passes a decent amount. And he never was just

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Speaker 3: a dark did never had a dominant target share, never

616
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Speaker 3: had he wasn't a dominant player for that offense. But

617
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Speaker 3: people are gonna love his side, speed, size, speed in

618
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: his you know, smooth running ability.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I'm not interested. I'm kind of out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have him, to be honest, I have him

621
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Speaker 3: lower than this.

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00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: The guy I love, I'm fascinated by Darnell Washington from Georgia.

624
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk it through because it's so meaty and there's

625
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: so much to talk about here. First thing, you have

626
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Speaker 1: to understand, he's playing in an offense that has another

627
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Speaker 1: tight end who is right now being mocked into the

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Speaker 1: top five players and potentially the first non quarterback to

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Speaker 1: be taken in next year's draft. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: Georgia tight end Rock Bowers, who led. I mentioned earlier

631
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Speaker 1: that Dalton Kincaid led FBS tight ends in receiving yards

632
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Speaker 1: and receptions per game. But the guy who led FBS

633
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Speaker 1: in receiving yards and touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: Over the whole season, rock Bowers.

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Speaker 1: So understand that Darnel Washington was effectively a backup behind

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Speaker 1: brock Bowers. But brock Bowers is awesome and he's top five,

637
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: And that's how I'm explaining his lack of production.

638
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: This is how Charge explains how a six foot seven.

639
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: Guy had three touchdowns, right, and I think thirty six

640
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: catches last year.

641
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm just being the fun devil's advocate.

642
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I like him too, so Darnel Washington is freaking enormous.

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Speaker 1: He's six foot seven, two hundred and seventy two pounds.

644
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: He's absolutely massive. Yet you watch him running downfield, he's

645
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: shockingly nimble, and he's just throwing tacklers aside running through

646
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: tackles utinely dragging guys behind him for two, three, four

647
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Speaker 1: five yards go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say nimble in four six, four forty,

649
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: which is ridiculous for six, yes, I will say, you're

650
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: not gonna see him.

651
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: Cutting cone drill man his friend.

652
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: You're not gonna see you with you know, some Cooper

653
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: cup ass cuts out there, though probably not. He's very

654
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: straight line, but he does bowl over people and drag people.

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Speaker 4: He does.

656
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Darnel Washington contested catches, as you can imagine at this size,

657
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: just boxing out slappies winning all these catches, stunning short

658
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: area agility.

659
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: He finished third in the short shuttle at the combine.

660
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: By the way, how about that that's better?

661
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: Not that's right dominating run blockers.

662
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: You could also have Anthony Richardson esque tight end combine.

663
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: He did.

664
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: He got stuck in at this two man rotation. As

665
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: I mentioned, he's The downsides on Darnel Washington are slow

666
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: to get up to speed because again he's trying to

667
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: drag two hundred and seventy two pounds downfield and he

668
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: ran a basic route tree at Georgia only caught. It

669
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: was forty five balls, not thirty five balls in three years,

670
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: which is not great. But here's the thing about Washington.

671
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: If his receiving game comes together, he was again not

672
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: productive behind brock Bowers.

673
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: But if it comes together for darn Washington, he's ron

674
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: freaking Gronkowski.

675
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's He's Gronconian in his upside because of

676
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: the combination of size, strength, hands and balance.

677
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: Yep.

678
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: Right now, projecting into the early second round, if Green

679
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Bay has the opportunity to take him mid I think

680
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: it was like pick fifteen of the second round. That's

681
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: just the perfect spot for Darnell Washington. Yeah, they would,

682
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: they would love that. Other other potential spots Houston at

683
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: thirty three, Seattle thirty seven, the Jets forty two and

684
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: forty three, one of them could be.

685
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: A tight end.

686
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's there's a few other spots that you know. Yeah,

687
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: the main spots I see out there. I think even

688
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: and this isn't list is the need for anyone, but man,

689
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: I feel like a tight end could fit into New Orleans,

690
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: get rid of the Taysom Hill experiment. Yeah, but yeah,

691
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay might be interesting.

692
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay could be interesting spot.

693
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: I like that too, Kate, with all due respect to

694
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: Kate Otton, Yes, I think Darnold watching it be is

695
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: pretty sizable upgrade for them.

696
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, almost like a year replaced every a year removed. Yes,

697
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: Kronck replacement. Who are you up to now?

698
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: Tucker Craft?

699
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft, South Dakota State University, corn Fed farm Boys.

700
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: Yes, talker Craft, we're talking about a six five and

701
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: fifty four pound guy, good two way tight end, receiving

702
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: and blocking play. Well, he's very productive again, slightly lower

703
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: level there, yes, slightly lower level there, very productive with

704
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: his you know, sixty five catches, seven hundred yards, I

705
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: think six or six touch on something like that. I

706
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: don't have it written down, but I'm pretty sure that's

707
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: what I remember. But what I like like a lot

708
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: about him is he plays all over. He plays in

709
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: the slot, he plays in line, he plays out wide.

710
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: That's going to be great for an NFL team early on,

711
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: probably a small school, a little bit more raw. So

712
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: I've I read things that Hugh's comped him coming out

713
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: as comped very similarly to Travis Kelcey coming out of Cincinnati,

714
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: which I'm like, like, that's that's you. Hear something like

715
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: that and you're immediately like Travis kelce Hall of Fame,

716
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: but really it's Travis kelsey coming out of Cincinnati. Can

717
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: you put that together? I think I think Hunter Henry

718
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: is a better a better vibe just size and playability

719
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: of of what what he seems to do. But very athletic,

720
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: very productive, good hands.

721
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

722
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: He seems like a solid tight end that should go third,

723
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: fourth round and and could be a decent probably your

724
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: fifth or six tight end off the board. In fans

725
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: like he is where he is, you know, yeah, he's

726
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: got his question marks. But he looks like a decently

727
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: solid productive Titan.

728
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Don't look up highlights for Tucker Craft because he's you know,

729
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: you see these highlights and he's just mwing down these

730
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: kids playing it.

731
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 4: You know, Division two.

732
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: That was the sarcastic slightly lower.

733
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: He looks amazing in the highlights, but you have to

734
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: try to put some perspectives.

735
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can't dog that as much. Just like look

736
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: at Christian Watson, like he did not beast out at

737
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: that level when he should have. And he looked fine

738
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: last year, you know, so he looked stretches.

739
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he just broke him down in detail

740
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Football Weekly Micro. I think it was on Monday.

741
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: You can go back and listen to Christian Watson dive.

742
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

743
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 3: Look at that tag team segue right out there.

744
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, cross promotion right there.

745
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: You go.

746
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: Sure our final tight end and the final guy will

747
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: break down in the show from tight end you Iowa,

748
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta. This is the same school that brought you

749
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: such tight ends as Noah Fan, George Kittle, and DJ Hockinson.

750
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: They know a little something about the position At Iowa.

751
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: He finished with more receptions.

752
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: How was that coach not coaching in the end, what's

753
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: going on that tight end? It might have been different ones.

754
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: I'm not even.

755
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Sure he finished with more college receptions than Fan Kittle

756
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: or Howkinson dead very impressive career. He is a pass

757
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: catching tight end. Agility, quickness, good catch radius uh he

758
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: led college football last year and forced missed tackles at

759
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: the tight end position. It lead in tangibles like IQ

760
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: toughness character for Sam Laporta, but average overall build, average athlete,

761
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: not much of a blocker, and too many drops over

762
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: the course of his career as well. His quickness, soft hands,

763
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: and post catch playmakings suggest Sam Laporta could find a

764
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: spot as a starting tight end on the right roster

765
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: and perhaps in you know, maybe a time share with

766
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: like a bigger blocking tight end and then he comes

767
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: in and passing downs. I don't think he's got the

768
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: freaky high upside that Washington can Cater mayor have who

769
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: we've already talked about. I think he is a long

770
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: term dynasty prospect on a deep roster sure, and probably

771
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: not a lot more than that. His upside to me

772
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: for Sam Laporta feels like upside like the eighth best

773
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: tight end tenth best tight end in fantasy football three

774
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: years from now. The downside is like literally just right

775
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: out of the fantasy factor.

776
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: Feels like every year that's it that those are twenty players,

777
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 3: probably especially tight end. Yes, yes, no know, Zach Koon's

778
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: talk for you. Six ft, I'll break him down.

779
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 4: You want to break him down. I like, I'm into

780
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: my six fight.

781
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: I'm just like six foot eight, two hundred and fifty five.

782
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look up his weight here quickly.

783
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 4: He's a big guy.

784
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: I know that six eight, two fifty one.

785
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: All right, two fifty one's actually not that that's actually

786
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: not that heavy on four six one forty.

787
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: He's look, he's he's no Darnell watching that, I can

788
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 4: tell you for sure.

789
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's blazing for that size though,

790
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: but uh, just just someone to keep your eye on.

791
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: Fourth round dynasty rookie pick. Maybe all right, there's a

792
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: lot of guys you can't you can't not love that

793
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: size it tight end.

794
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: I know six foot eight, yea, I know that's it's.

795
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: That might be free six eight. I know he's been

796
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: listed at six eight. He might have came in at

797
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: sixty seven something like that.

798
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: Thanks for listening everybody.

799
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Next week at this time you will get Fantasy Football

800
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: weekly micro editions Monday through Thursday. Then Friday you will

801
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: get the reaction to the first round. It's gonna be

802
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: a crazy twenty four hours. We're gonna have the NFL

803
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: Draft starting in the evening. Then we've got all kinds

804
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: of For me, nobody cares. I got radio in the morning.

805
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Then we come to this, we do this. It's gonna

806
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: be can't wait breaking down the first round, the landing

807
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: spots for all these guys.

808
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 4: Oh, it's the best.

809
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: So you know, look, as much as we love the

810
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: NFL season, is there any is there any like series

811
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: of let's call it thirty hours that's better in the

812
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: calendar for NFL then the start of the first round

813
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: on Thursday to the end of the third round on Friday.

814
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: So like thirty ish hours of programming.

815
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 3: It's the best.

816
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: It's the best.

817
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: My son is so excited. I'm sure you Honestly, honestly,

818
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: I think I get like a just a dopamine kick

819
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: or whatever. Every time every time that did like the.

820
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: Pick right, I asked Twitter.

821
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: For a question, asked Paul Charcion. Oh, and they had

822
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: a bunch of them.

823
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: Oh god, how many of them are clean?

824
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: Most of them? Okay, okay, I'm going to ask you

825
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: two of them. Best whiskey recommendation for newbies.

826
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: For newbies, if you're if you're new to whiskey and

827
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: you just want this a smooth entry point. I think

828
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: Red Breast is an excellent Irish whiskey, super smooth, but

829
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: has a lot of character to it.

830
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: A lot of the low proof.

831
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: Whiskeys just don't have any flavor and don't have any

832
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: real warmth warmth to them.

833
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: I want a little bit of that.

834
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: I think Red Breast is a great is a great

835
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: first introductory.

836
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: Whiskey, and it's not terribly You might go Buffalo you.

837
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: Can't buy it, so that you know, it's the problem

838
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: of Buffalo Trace.

839
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: You can't find it.

840
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: It's off the shelves, now off the shelves. It's it's terrible.

841
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: For years, Buffalo Trace was my go to chief or

842
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: absolutely and now it's become so popular that the price

843
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: is doubled in three years and you can't even find

844
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: it on the shelves.

845
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 4: It's very frustrating.

846
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: Second question, which board game brings you the absolute most joy?

847
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: The most joy yes.

848
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: Well, first, that automatically means it's a board game that

849
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: supports a lot of people, because I have my favorite

850
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: board gaming experiences are with a.

851
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: Lot of friends.

852
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: Return to Dark Tower has recently brought me a lot

853
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: of joy.

854
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: Now.

855
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Dark Tower was a game that originally came out in

856
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: the eighties and it had a It had a it

857
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: had a round board, and sitting in the round board

858
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: was this physically large tower that stood about a foot

859
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 1: off of the ground. And this new version of Dark Tower,

860
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: Return to Dark Tower, is a new, updated implementation of

861
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: it with this amazing tower that talks to you. It

862
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: has secret doors that open and stuff falls out of

863
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: it into the playing field, and it runs off of

864
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: an app on your phone or your pad or you

865
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: your tablet, and it works in conjunction with that.

866
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: So that's pretty cool.

867
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: You you you sort of tell it a little bit

868
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: about what you're doing on the app, and then the

869
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: app controls the physical dark Tower in the middle of it.

870
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: Oh man, that fun.

871
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: It's super fun. Wow. And it's a cooperative game.

872
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: So it's everybody against the tower.

873
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: That's those are the best. I love the everybody against

874
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: one that's because then.

875
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: When you're playing with your kids, for example, it doesn't

876
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: come down to who's the smartest and who's the most

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Speaker 1: skillful and the most strategic, and you know, because you're

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Speaker 1: playing together. Yeah, it's not like you just mowing down

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Speaker 1: your kids and then you know, spike in the football

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Speaker 1: in their face. So yeah, I love cooperative games. Return

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Speaker 1: to Dark Towers A. It's a it's it's really really

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Speaker 1: fun nice and when you break out that board and

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Speaker 1: that tower, that's a it's a crowd pleaser.

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Speaker 4: People are in they're like, oh, what's that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a showstopper type. It sounds like it is awesome,

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Speaker 3: very cool, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I'm that was a nice feet asked Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised anybody cared. Thank you for listening, everybody. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: At this time.

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Speaker 1: Next week, as mentioned, we'll go through and talk through

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Speaker 1: the results of the first round.

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Speaker 4: Can't wait talk to you then.

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