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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Oh yeah, Mark Zessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Well,

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Speaker 1: we're sorry. We counted an absolute disaster in this studio

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Speaker 1: today when we marched in. Do you know what's funny?

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Speaker 1: When I walked in and I saw glitter and confetti

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Speaker 1: prediction for about seven months. Um, and I figured that

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what it was, absolutely and involved. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I came in a little early, thinking, hey,

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Speaker 1: start here, let's be organized, And instead they're trying to

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Speaker 1: wrangle NFL media cleaning cruise to come in and vacuum

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Speaker 1: the floor. And I did hear them. A friend of

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Speaker 1: ours blame himself for the fiasco because I guess what

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Speaker 1: happened was they poured this glassy confetti on top of check,

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Speaker 1: which was painful, but it was It was none other

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Speaker 1: than a man from Britain, nfl UK handsome Hank Interesting.

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Speaker 1: He is the culprit. According to his own words, it

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Speaker 1: really starts with damnit check And you know, this self

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Speaker 1: glorification about something absolutely no one could care about. Will

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like throwing a party for winning your

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Speaker 1: fantasy league that your friends aren't in. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's quite the unlikely accomplishment that it means absolutely nothing

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Speaker 1: it's such a classic third floor move, third floor executive move.

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Speaker 1: Let's and make no mistake, that is very much what

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Speaker 1: Henry is at this stage of his career. Good for him,

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Speaker 1: UH is to walk downstairs, UH, pour some kerosene, light

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Speaker 1: That's what happened in the studio today. We're friends all

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Speaker 1: over the place here we four John, we will we

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Speaker 1: will fight on it. You know why we're gonna fight

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Speaker 1: on because this is wild Card weekend and you know

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Speaker 1: what that means this is the crucible. This is when

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Speaker 1: we separate the men from the boys West. This Crucible

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Speaker 1: was my favorite bull of the whole bull season. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we have four games this weekend, We have four teams

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Speaker 1: we got some bangers and and I just wanted a

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Speaker 1: There's some heavy um. Can I say favorites? Yeah, favorites

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Speaker 1: is so just a word that's all better favored to

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Speaker 1: win by the football cogniscenti and the fans. The home

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Speaker 1: just curious. Okay, so does that mean all the home

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Speaker 1: is a big weekend for the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: UM some changes around here, and some of those changes

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Speaker 1: open the door, let it in. Around the NFL Podcast

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Speaker 1: And uh, why don't we go in chronological auditors? Damn

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Speaker 1: the Rams talking about Sean McVeigh. Mike Silver wrote this

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Speaker 1: great piece where he got everyone to talk, and and

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, who's four years older than McVeigh, said that

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Speaker 1: anyone who spends five minutes with him comes away from

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Speaker 1: it and goes that kid is not thirty one. And

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Speaker 1: he pointed to multiple Hall of Fame players and said

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Speaker 1: that when you meet in Anthony Moonos at Jonathan Ogden,

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Speaker 1: you just know, forget their background, their age, wherever they are,

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Speaker 1: that they have something special that makes them set apart

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Speaker 1: in the NFL circle forever. And he meant, that's Sean McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: he said, And I and I I cannot fathom where

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Speaker 1: we'll be with this guy half a decade from now. Um,

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Speaker 1: don't get mad at me. But that wasn't a question. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't done, and I'm not gonna finish, but I'm

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Speaker 1: locking it up. Rams are gonna whip this team. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that was quite eventful the last couple of minutes on

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Speaker 1: this show. That's a that's what it's like at the Crucible.

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Speaker 1: I would honestly, mark, what is the question? It's passionate

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Speaker 1: the inside the Crucible. I guess I was gonna ask,

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Speaker 1: can you find a game that shows how much team

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Speaker 1: has change over the course of one season? Can you

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Speaker 1: point to one game in the playoffs or all year?

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Speaker 1: This is the one that shows me how far two

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Speaker 1: teams have come. And the Rams haven't, the Falcons haven't

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Speaker 1: bottomed out in a negative way. But Dan Quinn was

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Speaker 1: everyone's man of the hour a year ago, and now

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Speaker 1: we're questioning if this coaching staff has done a good

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Speaker 1: enough job with this team. That's the only thing I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about and nickveigh is basically it makes me think

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Speaker 1: of I remember when I way back in the day

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Speaker 1: when I was working at a newspaper and um, they

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Speaker 1: had just come out with or what was that movie,

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Speaker 1: the Eminem movie where he's in the rap battle cape

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Speaker 1: eight mile, and I like that he turned to me

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Speaker 1: for pop culture. Yeah, well, I know that's kind of in.

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Speaker 1: You were in your thirties at that point, you're still

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Speaker 1: kind of in the zone. Wha that that little whippers

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Speaker 1: napping with the rapid rap right eight mile? So Eminem

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Speaker 1: had been on a string of unprecedented success in hip

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Speaker 1: hop for about four or five years, and Uh, this

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Speaker 1: guy that I worked with, Jeff, he said to me, oh,

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Speaker 1: Eminem's the new Elvis, and nobody laughed him out of

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Speaker 1: the room because he was that like popular and and

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Speaker 1: crossed all time. Now now it doesn't age so well.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's what I think when I think of McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: that he's at the top of the mountain and we're

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Speaker 1: saying he's the greatest coach that's ever lived. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what he looks like in ten years, dan Quinn, the

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Speaker 1: bloom came off the Rose in one year. It's a

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Speaker 1: great point because the Rams next year could lose one

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Speaker 1: or two people be scoring seventeen points a game. But

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Speaker 1: all day said, all that said, let me just say,

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from McVeigh. I think he's

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Speaker 1: in the sweet spot right now. He's on a roll.

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Speaker 1: He's feeling himself. He loves the team, the team loves him,

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Speaker 1: and that makes them super dangerous. I think, though, this

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Speaker 1: is the most dangerous matchup they could have had in

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Speaker 1: the NFC. I kind of feel like the Ram Rams

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Speaker 1: are my Super Bowl pick. Like if I feel like

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Speaker 1: if they could take I feel like if they get

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Speaker 1: past this week, they're gonna go. But this is a

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Speaker 1: dangerous matchup, not just because the Falcons have experience and

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Speaker 1: motivation and all that, but because their defense is playing

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Speaker 1: much better over the last half of the season and

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Speaker 1: really in the last two weeks. And when you watch

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Speaker 1: the Rams, they're always much faster than their opponents. This week,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to be faster. That is a fast

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Speaker 1: Falcons defense who has played well the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: If you look what they did against Kamara, what they

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Speaker 1: did against McCaffrey, they've done a good job shutting down

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Speaker 1: running backs for the most part in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Like they are a a fast group that I think

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Speaker 1: if Grady Jared has the type of game that he's

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Speaker 1: had a few times this season, including last week, can

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Speaker 1: get Jared Goff off the spot. And his numbers when

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Speaker 1: he is pressured are not good. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest gaps in any quarterback in the league in terms

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Speaker 1: of when he is pressured and when he isn't. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a recipe to keep this

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Speaker 1: game close. I think it's gonna be a great game.

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Speaker 1: What's you're right about golf in the pressure? But what's

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Speaker 1: so great about McVeigh and what does make him a

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Speaker 1: coach that I'm not worried about in ten years because

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Speaker 1: he is so unique. You don't hear comparisons to Bill

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Speaker 1: Walsh very often. But when you watch the Falcons last

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Speaker 1: year and the Rams this year, like Mark said, it's

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Speaker 1: the Rams this year who have wide open wide receivers

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Speaker 1: have huge throwing windows and defined reads for Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: that Matt Ryan doesn't have this year because he misses

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. And that's the difference between these two offenses

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Speaker 1: right now. The Falcons would scare me a lot more

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Speaker 1: if this game was in the Dome, if they were

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Speaker 1: playing at home, because there running chase linebackers, their safeties

520
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Speaker 1: are so much faster on that dome, in the fast

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Speaker 1: turf there. They average about six points more allowed on

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Speaker 1: the road than they do at home. If if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna come up with a few people to help slow

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Speaker 1: down Gurley, and I think if you can slow down Gurley,

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Speaker 1: then you have a chance. Like that's the offense, it

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Speaker 1: would be Dion Jones. To me, it would be DeAndre Campbell,

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Speaker 1: would be Keiana Neil. These are guys that can make

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Speaker 1: an impact. I feel like even if you slow the

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Speaker 1: Rams down, they're still going to score twenty four points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find a way the Falcons way.

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Speaker 1: They look fantastic for five or six minute drive and

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Speaker 1: then they go utterly to sleep like my and nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to see anybody get hurt. If Todd Gurley, for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, had to exit the lineup is geograph good

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Speaker 1: enough to keep this team afloat in a game in

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Speaker 1: a crucible se Sean McVeigh is, though, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's kind of getting the receiver's open, and that the

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Speaker 1: Falcon secondary has played well lately again the last again,

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Speaker 1: it's been the last few weeks. But I trust I

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Speaker 1: trust McVeigh. You know he come. He schemes very well,

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Speaker 1: not just before the game, but in terms of adjusting

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Speaker 1: inside the game. I love this game. I agree. I

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Speaker 1: think this is going to be the game of the week.

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Speaker 1: I see the Rams winning um in a close, close game,

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Speaker 1: but I could definitely see it going the other way,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's the other way for the Falcons. I

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Speaker 1: can see it going to the Falcons too, because they

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Speaker 1: really did despite disappointing, despite the fact that this is

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Speaker 1: huge for you, you you haven't given the Falcons credit. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give it to him a little credit right now

551
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Speaker 1: because they got to ten wins. They found their way

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. That was a playoff game last week,

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Speaker 1: and I think that kind of matters. And I showed

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Speaker 1: up in what was I locked up against them for

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Speaker 1: that very reason. I just didn't think they had the

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Speaker 1: juice in them, and now it's almost like they take

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Speaker 1: that confidence and they have to be feeling good about themselves.

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Speaker 1: I found it interesting still, and I know this has

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Speaker 1: been talked about a lot, but um Our Research notes

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Speaker 1: noted that the Matt Ryan to Julio Jones connection UH

561
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Speaker 1: eighties six point nine passer rating the league average. Exactly,

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Speaker 1: how does that happen? How did they change that? Because

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Speaker 1: I think they're their playoff hopes ride on them rediscovering

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Speaker 1: their mojo. That it's been over one hundred that passer

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Speaker 1: rating UH combo uh for every other year since Jones

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Speaker 1: came into the league. Just like Larry Fitzgerald and Kurt

567
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Warner rode a wave into the super Bowl all those

568
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Speaker 1: years ago. I think Jones and Matt Ryan need to

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Speaker 1: get hot. I don't know if it's gonna happen, though,

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Speaker 1: because we haven't seen it for seventeen weeks. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of is the go off of Julio Jones fingers

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Speaker 1: these days and he had year Here're not all they're

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Speaker 1: not all drops. There's a lot of throws into tight

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Speaker 1: coverage that we're huge open windows last year. The reason

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Speaker 1: I liked the Rams better obviously in this game. But

576
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Speaker 1: is that they're so balanced. There's no team in football

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Speaker 1: Outsiders history. I believe that they've measured that was top

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Speaker 1: six in offense, defense and special teams. Like the Rams

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Speaker 1: defense has been under the radar. But Wade Phillips has

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Speaker 1: done as good a job with this group as he's

581
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Speaker 1: ever done just about in terms of turning them around.

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Speaker 1: And it's a lot of the underrated guys. Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: I think should win Defensive Player of the Year. But

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Speaker 1: Michael Brockers, I know you tweeted about him earlier this week.

585
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: West has been really good, uh, disrupting plays up the middle.

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Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joyner I got. I had someone asked me for

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Speaker 1: you know, they had an All Pro ballot and I

588
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: was trying to come up with the safeties that they

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Speaker 1: shared their All Pro ballot with you. Well, they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: do you have any suggestions? Yeah, do you have any

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Speaker 1: that I think that should be encouraged? Yeah? If I

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Speaker 1: wasn't the only one. He sent it to three or

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Speaker 1: four people, and he was kind of just trying to

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Speaker 1: get up tom It was Tommy. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's great. It's a beat writer who he has to

596
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: watch so much film on the Patriots and check in

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Speaker 1: with his own. I think that's cool to me, Like

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Speaker 1: you don't have a chance to watch all the films,

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Speaker 1: so ask guys who do. I threw a LaMarcus Joiner

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Speaker 1: as my as like the nickel safety you can add

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Speaker 1: like a fifth defensive back. And that's how good I

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Speaker 1: think LaMarcus Joiner has been this year. You have Josh

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Speaker 1: Johnson who has been a great rookie safety. It's like

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Speaker 1: they are deep on that defense. A team of a

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Speaker 1: t L And by the way, this son of bum

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips first time back in the Crucible since uh

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Speaker 1: in Santa Clara. Don't sleep on the sun. A bum

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Speaker 1: cooking up something the slumbers Matty Ryan in the big spot.

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Speaker 1: It's a good call. All right, let's move on. That's

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Speaker 1: a great game. We'll pick it. I guess we're all picked.

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Speaker 1: We all have the you locked up the Rams mark correct?

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Speaker 1: That would mean I've picked the Rams. You West, we

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Speaker 1: haven't heard your exact pick. Well, I I look at

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Speaker 1: the difference in coaching. Last December, these Falcons went into

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Speaker 1: l A and ended Jeff Fisher's coaching tenure there with

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Speaker 1: the most embarrassing loss of the season, and now the

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Speaker 1: Rams are the better team and I expect him to

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Speaker 1: win thirty four. Rams like it all right. Moving on

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Speaker 1: to Sunday, the Early Affair UH is a matchup between

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Of course, we're kind of a heartwarming

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Speaker 1: story at the end of the regular season when they

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Speaker 1: won in Week seventeen and then got that miracle touchdown

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Speaker 1: from Andy Dalton West, I was wondering why you were

624
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Speaker 1: so mad. I saw it cost you three sandwiches did

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Speaker 1: I'm not happy because you would have been eleven and five.

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Speaker 1: It would have been for the regular season. That one hurts,

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Speaker 1: and I get it totally. Yeah, that was the butterfly effect.

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Speaker 1: People don't understand how much that one Andy Dalton pass.

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Speaker 1: It's like a hundred and seventy thousand dollar pass, as

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Speaker 1: Greg said, for the underserved children of the Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: So the Bills are a great story, but maybe the

632
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: story doesn't have a great ending because Lashawn McCoy got

633
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: carded off UH in that Week seventeen win against Miami.

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00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: He hadn't practiced all week. I read this morning that

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Speaker 1: he came out for the stretching exercises with the Bills

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Speaker 1: this morning being Thursday and then left the field. I

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00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because it was barking or that

638
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: was just always the plan. He did not practice. He

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00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: did do the stretching, but yeah, that was I I

640
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: would imagine McCoy will give it a shot, UM, considering

641
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: he's never won a playoff game in his career and

642
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: he's probably amped up for this game. But at the

643
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, UM, the Jaguars are the better team.

644
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: UM in a lot of phases. But I will ask

645
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: my one big freaking question to get this game conversation going, guys,

646
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: And it's a simple one and there's no no reason

647
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: to sugarcoat it or try to gussy it up, because

648
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: it's the only thing that matters in this game to me,

649
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: which version of Blake Bortles shows up in the Crucible,

650
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: because that's all that matters. That's it. And everyone's disrespecting Blake. Uh.

651
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney calling him trash, you know, for no reason,

652
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: just decided to to go to the press of that

653
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: there he trashed the Texans. Yeah, Darrell Casey, I believe

654
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: went out of his way to say that Blake Bortles

655
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: will choke. Uh. If if you give him the chance.

656
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Clark over at The Ringer wrote a wrote a

657
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: good piece about, um, why does everyone think it's you know,

658
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: why is it okay to just constantly rip on Blake

659
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Bortles and Blake Bortle's reaction to it all as a

660
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: shrug of the shoulders, even when his old old dad

661
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: has thought about like going after people that rip him.

662
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes me more confident in

663
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: Blake that he doesn't even seem to process that people

664
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: think he's terrible. But anyway, that's the key mark is

665
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: Blake Bortle is gonna throw this game away because if

666
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: he just plays at a league average, a replacement level,

667
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna take care of this Bills team. Right, I

668
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: think so? And I think that you gotta show me

669
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: what on Buffalo is going to generate that kind of

670
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: performance by the Jaguars in general, because a lot of

671
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: times it's not just Blake. Blake Bortles makes some bad throws,

672
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: but a lot of times when they don't, when they're

673
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: trying to play from behind, or the running game isn't

674
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: powerful the way it was in some situations that then

675
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: then the mistakes occur I just don't see Buffalo as

676
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: a team that can impose its will on really anyone

677
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: in this playoff group. I I I like the story

678
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: of the Bills. I love their fans. It's all a

679
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: good thing. But but the But the Jaguars have also

680
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: the Yes, they've had black bad Blake Blake Bortles games,

681
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: they've also had kind of contests where they've dropped bombs

682
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: on people scoring thirty ft. I see this as a

683
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: game where Jacksonville is gonna basically also say this is

684
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: our first home playoff game in Ages, and we have

685
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: pride in that, and we're going to show up. I

686
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's a no show for Blake Bortles and

687
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I think the version we're gonna get is

688
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: the one where all he has to do is turn

689
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: around and hand it off and cruise the victory. Because

690
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: this is not just the most lopsided matchup in this

691
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: year's playoffs, It's one of the most lopsided matchups I've

692
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: ever seen in the wild card round. What do the Bills.

693
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: Bills do well? Their secondary is really good. Other than

694
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: that they've got an injured running back who had a

695
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: thousand more yards for scrimmage than any other best player,

696
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: a thousand more yards for scrimmage than any other player

697
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: on their team, and and he's playing injured. I think

698
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: the Bills are thirty one and run defense since they

699
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: traded away more. Still, Darius, I think the Jaguars are

700
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna run it down their throats all games. See, I don't.

701
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily that one sided. I don't

702
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: have a strong feel. But if I had to pick

703
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: one team because the Jaguars, the Jaguars are inconsistent enough

704
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: that they can get swept by the Titans, like so

705
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: any team that can get swept by the Titans, it's

706
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: not the most lopside about two games. I'm talking about

707
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: the game the week before, also that the Jaguars played there.

708
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: They're they're a fine team when they played better competition

709
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: throughout the year. Sometimes they play well. Sometimes you know

710
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: it's a toss up when you watch Boardles last week.

711
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: One of the problems is the offensive line, and he

712
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: in a way hasn't gotten enough credit for playing behind

713
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: a really bad offensive line throwing to two rookie receivers.

714
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: His best receiver, Mark eas Lee, has not practiced yet

715
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: this week. He might try to play on Sunday. He's

716
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: thrown to an undrafted rookie and Keelan Cole, and he's

717
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: throwing a D. D. Westbrook who basically barfed on himself

718
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: last week, but with an alligator arms um miss and

719
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: a drop in the end zone really hurt their chances.

720
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: So you're County on two rookie receivers and you're County

721
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: on Blake Bortles against the defense. If they do one

722
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: thing well, it's keep it in front of you, make

723
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: you work down the field, make you execute, and you

724
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: have a really good secondary. Can Blake Bortles go up

725
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: and down the field and do that against a well coach.

726
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: They haven't run the ball particularly well either. There's not

727
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: a great offense. D D. Westbrook has been last week

728
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: he's been. He's been great, but he's had a rough

729
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Board thinks markis Lee is coming back.

730
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: And they also have Can Robinson the left tackle back.

731
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Havoc was caused working with no Cam Robinson last week.

732
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: But you're bringing it back. I like it. I didn't

733
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: know it was gone. Um here's that's the case. A

734
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: better quarterback on Buffalo and a better coach. Here's the

735
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: there's more to them. I don't think there is a

736
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: case there's letter here. Has not been playing extremely well

737
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. So and they

738
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: have one of the deepest backfields in the NFL. So

739
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: it turned to Chris Ivory or or t J. You

740
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: the healthy last week. So it's the horrible run beefit.

741
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: What about the Doug Marone factor? Does that matter at

742
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: all if you're Buffalo. We didn't even bring it up

743
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: on our last podcast that you have Doug Moron going

744
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: against the team that he ditched. Yeah, it is a

745
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 1: revenge game for somebody, I guess, um not for Doug Moron,

746
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: game for the Bills, I mean their ownership talking trash

747
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: on Doug Maron just this offseason. This is this is

748
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Weird things happen, and Wes, You've you've hit

749
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: on this a lot this season that the Jaguars are

750
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: a great team as long as they don't fall behind,

751
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: and I don't expect them to. But what if a

752
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: special team's play happens. What if Bortles does throw a pick,

753
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: a pick six, something bad happens, a bumble and they're

754
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: behind and they have to throw the ball. I just

755
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars aren't good enough on offense to be

756
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: a huge favorite over anything. I expect them to win,

757
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: to be clear, it's just it's just life is unpredictable.

758
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: Football is unpredictable, and this is one where I could

759
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: see them coming up because I do like the coaches better.

760
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: I think Sean mcdermot's really good in game. I think

761
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is a much more trustworthy quarterback. He's a

762
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: game manager. He's very Alex Smith like in terms of

763
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: he avoids mistakes. He doesn't go for it too much,

764
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: but he's a great running quarterback on on third downs

765
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: and in a low scoring game. I kind of trust

766
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: him more than Borders. If you could draw up a

767
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: team that the Jaguars would most want to play against

768
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: and not worry about following it behind, it would be

769
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills with an injured Leshawn McCoy. They don't

770
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: scare anyone, right, but do the Titans. I mean, they

771
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: lost the game where they gave up two under in

772
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: thirty yards last week, so they're they're capable of Titans

773
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: play good run defense. The Bills are a pushover against

774
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: the run. I mean I just don't I don't see

775
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: any I don't know. This is a lot more snoring.

776
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's defense too, it's not in the greatest fourteen days

777
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville's defense, last unit in this in this five

778
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: fire game. That's why they that's why they should win

779
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: their second in the league. And interceptions. The Bills are six,

780
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: so it's a game that you would expect to see

781
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: some turnovers. Be right, the Jaguars defense is so much

782
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: better than anything else in this game. Logically, that's why

783
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: they're huge favorite. I mean, they are a monster there

784
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: more than you know, a touchdown favorite in this game,

785
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: which is which is a Sean McCoy doesn't get card

786
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: off last week, then yeah, you can really kind of

787
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: maybe talk yourself into this this game and maybe an upset.

788
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: But let's let's pick this game. Um, I'll put it

789
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: out there, twenty to six Jaguars. I just don't think

790
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: the Bills will move the ball and that's the most

791
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: likely outcome and Borders won't be given a chance to

792
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: beat them. I'll go twelve Jacksonville. Otherwise you have Buffalo

793
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: going to New England. Yes, we do not want which

794
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: every you know, that's the thing. If you want this storyline,

795
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: that's fine. It's listen Buffalo as a bright future. But

796
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: you put Buffalo in New England next week. Come on

797
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: the story, the story, the fairy tale. I don't even

798
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: know if the Bill just getting to the playoffs. Do

799
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: not do football gods, Do not send me the Bills

800
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: going to Foxboro next week. I don't want any of that.

801
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: They have a good coach. I think they have a

802
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: good coach, Greg, That's what I mean. Yeah, you're gonna

803
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have the best Bills game, uh,

804
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: that we've seen in a while. But this was a

805
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: team that went to Kansas City won a game. It

806
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: They somehow had Jordan Poyer win Defensive Player of the month.

807
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: They've got a good secondary. I'll go Jacksonville not really

808
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: have any good offensive performance. Was uh, let's see six nothing.

809
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that the Bills are a feel

810
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: good story. That's great. I'm glad. I'm glad they're here.

811
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: That's fine. Everybody is going way overboard on how good

812
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: this team is or or where what they are as

813
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: a team. I I can't could not wait to lock

814
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: this game up, which I'm doing because it's the easiest

815
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: lock up I've chosen this year at thirty four to nine,

816
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Jaguars overbuilt. All right, there you go. One last thing

817
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: before we move on. The Bills. Last playoff game was

818
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: I believe January six, two thousand, ending that long drought.

819
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: This week the Music City Miracle game. And by January eight,

820
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: and by the way, NFL Network, you know, you know,

821
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: throw these Bills fans of bone. You put the Music

822
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: Music City Miracle game on today, sending them bad juju.

823
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: But the Titans are playing too, so I get it. Mark,

824
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Where were you on January eighth, two thousand? What was

825
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: What was Mark Sessler's life like at that point? I had,

826
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: I basically mad, moved back to my parents house, been

827
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: there for about seventy two hours. I had a job

828
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: as a copy editor at the Boulder Daily Camera in Boulder, Colorado,

829
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: and and this was um I was going to be

830
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: there alone when this Menacine y two K event was

831
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. And I said, now, I'm not doing that,

832
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: So I I left the job and I left Colorado.

833
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the only person in the

834
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: newsroom when all technology blows up. But you left because

835
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: I also I had I had a like a blooming

836
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: relationship with a girlfriend starting to happen on the East Coast,

837
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: so things aligned a little bit. But yeah, I wanted

838
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this task. And I was home.

839
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: I watched I watched The Music City Miracle with my

840
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: dad and we had a great time watching it. But

841
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: they were always lingering questions even hours later of what

842
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: are you doing here? You're like twenty six, Like what

843
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: is your plan? And you know that came up roughly

844
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: every year with whenever I'd come home for the holidays,

845
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: what about you? I had two handsome ye two case

846
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: stuff going on. I was working at the law firm,

847
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: uh you know, living a pretty fairly easily life just

848
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: reading like H. L. Mincoln and Hunter S. Thompson while

849
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be working. But the wide two

850
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: K scare. I had to physically go in and change

851
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: our retention dates on all our files because they were

852
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: all due to expire on two like one one to

853
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: clear all that. But I would say on this time,

854
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: I was absolutely mortified by a fiancee who had engaged

855
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: herself to me and through like a holiday shower party

856
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: in which my family members were by us like Christmas

857
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 1: ornaments and stuff. So well, I for like this few

858
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: weeks stretch around Christmas and New Year's I was trying

859
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: to find a way to disengage, extricate myself in the situation.

860
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: And how could I do this before like the wedding

861
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: actually happened. That was what I was going. He got out. Yeah,

862
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: I disengaged. You survive this or gonna survive the big

863
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: c Your survivor was? I think Fixie was a little

864
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: bit tougher of a battle. I don't know, man, that

865
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: sounds like a tough situation. I wasn't snarled. Um two thousand,

866
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: I was nineteen. I was trying to figure out my stuff.

867
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: I was. I had spent um New Year's Eve when

868
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: the Y two K ball dropped in Boston and a

869
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: friend of ours fell through a frozen pond and almost died. Um,

870
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: but she survived. Shouts to Michelle for surviving that I

871
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: had Um. I was taking a winter course and I

872
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: met I had like a first kind of real girlfriend. Uh,

873
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: this girl that listened to the Magnolia soundtrack all the

874
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: time at this stage because that movie came out the

875
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: prior month. Yeah, a lot of Amy Man good soundtrack movie. Uh,

876
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: and I just I had discovered classic rock around that time.

877
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I was getting into Springsteen, the Stones, I remember. I

878
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: was gobbling up a lot of the classics um musically

879
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: at that time. That's that's where I was. It didn't

880
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: work out with Dana, but nice girl Michelle lived. Yeah

881
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: did it? She fell through the pond literally, and then

882
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: you could It was eleven o'clock at night, in the

883
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: middle of a park in Boston and easily could have

884
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: just in one of the worst ways to die, that's

885
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: top ten. You think about that, and you can't find

886
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: the hole, and then suddenly you're fifteen yards out. You're gone. Yeah,

887
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: she had to walk back. I didn't even like thinking

888
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: about Yeah, anyway, she lived. Another survivor. Mr Deed's the

889
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: black foot that crushes the ice to get her out.

890
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: Remember that scene. He like takes out his black foot

891
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: that has no feeling, kind of a millennial raft to

892
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: drop Mr Deed's the Adam Sandler vehicle. Yeah, I didn't

893
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: see Mr Deeds. I catched out in Sandler around Um

894
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: that's stupid football movie water Water. Yeah, that's about when

895
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: I checked. Right before that, I had just gotten out

896
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: on Sandler. My memory is generally very foggy, but I

897
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: do remember exactly where I was. Greg was gonna live sec.

898
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: I remember exactly where I was making fun of the

899
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: ESPN broadcast of this game. It was the worst crew

900
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: in the world. Mike Patrick, Joe Theisman and uh who

901
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: else you want to talk about a guy? Here's a

902
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: guy and not what was happening in your life. I

903
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta. I was. That was probably the least

904
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: into football I ever was, because it was junior year

905
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: of school. I had come back, literally, I think we

906
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: did New Year's in Miami. We had driven to Atlanta

907
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: to see a friend. I was with my friend Anthony,

908
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: who I did a podcast with, and uh, you know,

909
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: there was a lot of a lot of you know,

910
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: not a lot of sobriety. I feel like there was

911
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: a lot of drugs in the mix. Only time in Atlanta,

912
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: but I remember very all sorts. Who know you mentioned

913
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: on our last show what kind of drug? But yeah,

914
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: we were visiting a friend we had made from the summer.

915
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: But I remember it's snow there, which is rare in Atlanta.

916
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: And when we left the next day, I've never felt

917
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: quite so stupid as I realized I had gone the

918
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: wrong way back to New Orleans when we got close

919
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: to the state line for South Carolina, and I was like,

920
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: wait a second, South, No, it's one state. It's right,

921
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: it's pretty close. Yeah. Well, so I basically I was

922
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: headed north out of Georgia instead of headed west. And

923
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: we were sitting there and I'd like to think I

924
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: was sober while driving, but that's I don't even know there.

925
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: And they looked. I looked, and I said South Carolina.

926
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: I said, well, this is a problem. We're going the

927
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: wrong way here. We gotta get this thing turned. But

928
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe the reason we claim that Greg has no memories

929
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: under a certain age is that he's changed in identity

930
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: to shake what seems like a hardcore drug idol maybe

931
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: criminal pass. I was, you know, I was sober driving

932
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: just since you met And she said you mentioned it

933
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: and actually was ten years and one day later from

934
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: the January eight, two thousand the worst announcing UH set

935
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: up ever, in my opinion, maybe you guys remember it.

936
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: I remember it obviously since the Jets, but um, the

937
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: two thousand nine wild card playoffs against the Bengals, the

938
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: NBC had to just put together a group that had

939
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: never done a game. Uh, just the way the schedule feld.

940
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: So they had Tom Hammond, Joe Thiman, and Joe Gibbs

941
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: broken out of offballs and Tiki Barbera the sideline. There

942
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: were actual stories written about how poor they're announcing. I

943
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: remember that got a lot of heat. What's the common

944
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: denominator with those two broadcast groups. Uh, By the way,

945
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: I remember that Jets game. That was like the first

946
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: of the Marvin Lewis era losses in the playoffs. It

947
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: was the Green hit a big Shawnny. Shawnny ripped up

948
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals and uh, your your kicker missed a bunch

949
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: of kicks, didn't They lose back to back to them? Yes,

950
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: the Jets shut them out in week seventeen when it

951
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: didn't matter. Was that the news the news, yep, and

952
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: just the just the you know. Post script for Debbie

953
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Rosen thought, my mom, who's probably listening, Yeah, I was

954
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: definitely sober. She is horrified. There's no you've you know,

955
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: the cats on the back. Yeah. In in the words

956
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: of Goodwill Hunting, it's not your fault. You can only

957
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: control you can control all right. Last game Sunday, the

958
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers traveling to Nola. Oh yeah, Greg's gonna be

959
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: there the Saints and the Panthers too. With eleven and

960
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: five teams. The Saints won the division, so they get

961
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: the home game. Uh and New Orleans. Greg defeated the

962
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Panthers twice in the regular season. They gotta make it

963
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: a hat trick. Both times it was convincing. Uh. Both times.

964
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara played great, Drew Brees played terrific in both games.

965
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: I would that was the last game that I was at,

966
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: was was Panthers Saints. That was a game where Cam

967
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Newton in the passing game was not very effective. And

968
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: so I'll start with my question, which is very similar

969
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: to yours, But I'm not, you know, created creative enough

970
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: to pivot which Cam Newton's gonna show up? Because we've

971
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: seen Cam. This is my one big freaking It's it's

972
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: easy to just remember last week and really the last

973
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: two weeks of Cam Newton being very scattershot. But you

974
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: don't have to go back far to see Cam Newton

975
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: play absolutely fantastic against the Minnesota Vikings, thirty one points

976
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: against the Vikings, have one of his best games, probably

977
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: I would say the best game of the season just

978
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: three weeks ago against the Packers when they put up

979
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: thirty one points, which Cam Newton shows up because if

980
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: it's if it's the bad Cam Newton, they got no shot.

981
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: I just don't like what's around him right now. Especially

982
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: in the passing game. You've lost all your speed. You're

983
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: whipping the ball down field to Devin Funchius and who

984
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: else at this point Greg Olson? Dad, but Dad running

985
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: Greg Olson. They are up seventy five points to the

986
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: Saints and two games this season, So it follows that script.

987
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to hang with the Saints and this

988
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: Panthers team. If we're gonna give the Falcons credit for

989
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: showing up last week and knocking Carol out. Caroline out,

990
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: the Panthers had a chance to win their division and

991
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: would have had they done the same to the Falcons,

992
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: and they were. It was the flattest game they've had

993
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: all year. I was disappointed. I was disappointed. I was surprised,

994
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: and I I feel like the Saints are so well

995
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: set up for a deep playoff run and especially to

996
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: get out of this first round. There they're so they're

997
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: such a good team, They're a well balanced team, We

998
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: know all about the running game and how they have

999
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: two yard guy is but Drew Brees, what he's been

1000
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: able to do this year? They asked, He asked him

1001
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: to do less, but he became more efficient than ever.

1002
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: Still a stud. Don't don't pay attention to the fact

1003
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: that he dropped to twenty four touchdowns in less than

1004
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: five thousand yards passing. He was still Drew Drew Brees,

1005
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: and then he got the defense with his playmakers, Cam

1006
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Jordan's Marshall Lattimore. They had had such a great offseason

1007
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: and I think they're a well rounded team like the Rams.

1008
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: Could be a collision course there and I I would

1009
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: I thought about locking this game up. I felt that

1010
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: good about them. But the Saints seem like they're set

1011
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: up well in the Panthers, I don't know. I don't

1012
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: know about the Panthers. I don't know how anyone could

1013
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: answer Gregg's question confidently, because there are weeks when Cam

1014
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Newton looks like the two thousand fifteen m v P

1015
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, and there are weeks where he looks like

1016
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: the guy who showed up in the Ryan Linley playoff game,

1017
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: and his body turns into a corkscrew when he throws

1018
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: the ball. He has no mechanics. They're still limited. You

1019
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: never know from week to week where whether his mechanics

1020
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: are gonna make him throw everything to high and off

1021
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: the mark, whether he's gonna be fine. So I have

1022
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: no confidence in my ability to predict which Cam Newton

1023
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: will show up. Only de Shaun Kaiser has the worst

1024
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: QB rating on third down than Cam Newton, and they're

1025
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: gonna face some third downs. Marshall Lattimore didn't play in

1026
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: either Saints Panthers, although in this game it's almost like,

1027
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, Lattimorial shut down fun just most likely, and

1028
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: then that'll be big for the Saints. There's almost like

1029
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: it's he's wasted because they don't even have any receivers.

1030
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: In particular, Funcius is gonna be their guy. There's such

1031
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: a slow passing attack. This was supposed to be the

1032
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: year remember that they didn't have Cam Newton run as much.

1033
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: He ended up running forty nine more times for twice

1034
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: as many much yardage as he did a year ago.

1035
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: But I also don't just chalk this one up to

1036
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: a Saints win. A their division opponents who know each

1037
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: other up and be the Saints haven't been that good.

1038
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: They lost to the Bucks last week. They were outplayed

1039
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: by the Bucks last week. They're three and three over

1040
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: the last six weeks. They haven't topped a hundred yards.

1041
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: They've rushed for over a hundred yards once out of

1042
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: the last four weeks. Kind of the team that everyone

1043
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: got all excited about in New Orleans. Maybe they can

1044
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: get it back going for the playoffs, but it hasn't

1045
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: really been around for six weeks. They haven't been that

1046
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: good of a defense. The running game, at least just

1047
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: for the last month, has been a little erratic. I

1048
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: think that's really on the blocking. And they hope that

1049
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: Toronto Armstead, their left tackle, will be back in this

1050
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: game and that will definitely help. But they haven't really

1051
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: run there. It's been more Drew Brees making plays kind

1052
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: of old school the last few weeks. That's really gotten

1053
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: them through. Uh. I would counter by saying to me,

1054
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: in the two games I saw between these two teams,

1055
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: Saints clearly have the Panthers number. They The Panthers have

1056
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: given up a hundred and twenty yards in the ground

1057
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: only twice all year, both times were to The Saints

1058
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: controlled the games from the from the outset. He made

1059
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: Chickley and Davis, especially Davis, but even Chickley had a

1060
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: pretty bad game in New Orleans. Like he just made

1061
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: Dave Thomas Davis the gold that stuff to do. I

1062
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: don't know how the Saints are gonna travel if they

1063
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: get out of this game and send them on the road.

1064
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: But at home, I I like, I liked them a lot.

1065
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: And then Drew Brees for the record, um, as you

1066
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: might expect because he always seems to play well in

1067
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, has been um awesome at the Superdome in

1068
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs as one all four games, ten touchdowns, no interceptions,

1069
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: pass rating of one seventeen. I just don't see them

1070
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: scoring less than thirty points in this game. And I

1071
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: don't know, with Cam Newton being such a scattershot guy,

1072
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: what is right. Maybe the two thousand fifteen camp shows up,

1073
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: and it's not impossible if that happens, but you really

1074
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: need that. You have to kind of hit on blackjack,

1075
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: I think to be there. They're missing five starters on

1076
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: defense to to where they were at the start of

1077
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: the season. Six if you wanted to count Devin bro

1078
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: So it is not Yeah, you're not going to get

1079
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: to two thousand, fifteen Panthers defense, which is given up

1080
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: this year twenty four plus points and eight times. It's like,

1081
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: this is not if you don't watch the if you

1082
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: just shign up for the playoffs, you don't even watch

1083
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers. You think, oh, they have a great defense,

1084
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing as before. It's not the

1085
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: same defense they have player Like they could see their

1086
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: defensive line in their front seven taking over for one game,

1087
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: but they haven't really done it week after week. I'm

1088
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: curious to see how like one of the great rookie

1089
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: classes in NFL history shows up in this playoffs. I mean,

1090
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the offensive play at rookie of the

1091
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: year most likely Kamara. We're definitely getting the defensive rookie

1092
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: of the year. And then Ryan ram checked their right

1093
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: tackle has been their best offensive lineman probably Marcus Williams

1094
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: has played every snap, had a couple of picks. I mean,

1095
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: he's played really well. It's like one of the best

1096
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: rookie classes we've ever seen. What do you guys think

1097
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: of this game? Who's gonna win? I think it's gonna

1098
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: be close. I'm gonna go Saints twenty three Panthers twenty

1099
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: in overtime. Qu I think Cam Newton has to carry

1100
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: too much of the load for this team right now,

1101
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: and I don't trust him. I don't trust the m

1102
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: v P version to show up. The Saints have been

1103
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: a better team in both both games these two teams

1104
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: have played. I'm gonna go Saints seven Panthers. Uh, let's

1105
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: say I want to pick one. I know, but it

1106
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: does We're going what twelve sixteen for? We all it,

1107
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 1: all favorites, all the right. That's fine. If the Desert

1108
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: people feel the same way too. I mean, it's like

1109
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: that type of round. Chances are one of these teams

1110
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: are gonna blow it, and I think the Saints probably

1111
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: will be that team if m VP camp shows up,

1112
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: but I'm not banking on it, so I think will

1113
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: be thirty one two three Saints roll. I'm I think

1114
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: the Saints will win a close game some something like that.

1115
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about how they've looked going into

1116
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I like Cam's chances of kind of

1117
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: coming out and maybe it's on the ground, but doing

1118
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: something in the big spotlight. All right, there you go.

1119
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: The Wild Card Round preview the next time you hear

1120
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: from us will be Sunday night. Will be all over

1121
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: the country, two of the four stadiums. That's awesome. I

1122
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: can't say that enough. I love that, UM watching the

1123
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: team of a t L the Saints, but it will

1124
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: be we should root for a Saints rams NFC championship

1125
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: games so we can go back to the Coliseum for

1126
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Rams like that. There's a good chance

1127
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: of that happening. UM, And I am warning you. I

1128
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: am warning you football gods. If you damn send the

1129
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: Bills to damn Fox Burrow next week, I will end you. Well,

1130
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: you have their ear. They think you were going to

1131
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: They listen to your every command, so that should go

1132
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: over fine. I don't you know, no injuries to major players,

1133
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: but no you it was self interesting and no disrespect.

1134
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: No disrespect to you Bills fans, because I know I

1135
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: was on your side last week. It's just I'm thinking

1136
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: a bigger picture football fan thing. I don't get the

1137
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: logic on this one. If your imagination can conceive of God,

1138
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't those gods be powerful, powerful enough to shut down

1139
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: whatever threat you have against them. A lot of a

1140
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: lot of that checks out West, but I'm just expressing

1141
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: my my thoughts and using the football Gods is kind

1142
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: of the vehicle. We'll have a little fun on the podcast.

1143
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: And before we go, Mark, don't do you have a

1144
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: big question you wanna ask? I'll ask you to you

1145
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: up to the show. It's going to be a big

1146
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: do you want to die? Erica? Where were you in

1147
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: January two? Second grade? That's adorable. I just buried my

1148
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: time capsule for the team the Millennium, and I came

1149
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: home and my mom was like, so, what do you like?

1150
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: What's about society? What do you want to put in there?

1151
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I have the shark tooth

1152
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: that I got in Florida. She was like what, And

1153
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: that's what I buried. He sacrificed it. It was like

1154
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: in a little jar, like I got it as a trick.

1155
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Take my lugo act Jersey. Mom. Were you a promising

1156
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: student or the opposite? No, I was great. According to

1157
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: who Records Google, Well, it sounds like it was the

1158
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: first time you disappointed your mom, perhaps, but definitely not

1159
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: the first. She was like a shark too. Do you

1160
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: open the time capsule? It's still under around time capsules.

1161
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: I am outcomes. Things come back to his time capsule

1162
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: because any time you try to go get it, you

1163
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: can't find it. It's and plus they're not sealed properly,

1164
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: so time ravages it and it's all warm fee. But

1165
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: imagine you're digging in the future and you're like, oh

1166
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: my god, this was buried in two thousand, you know,

1167
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: the millennium. Let's see what society was like back then. Yeah,

1168
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: I remember a lot of shark tooth back then. I

1169
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: don't know, that's a very second grade interest. I get that,

1170
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: all right. Legendary JT one month from today. His single

1171
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: comes out tonight, and I heard a little rumor of that.

1172
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: Beyonce is on it, okay, and I still believe Janet

1173
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: will be at the super Bowl, but oh I hope.

1174
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: So all right, Well, we got a lot of a

1175
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of time before then. This is the crucible. Uh,

1176
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Dan had the signing off

1177
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: for Wide Storm, the Maleman, the old Boss, the loose

1178
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: cannon behind the glass. Oh yeah, baby, playoff football, Let's

1179
00:59:44,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: fly still Sunday? Yeah, I think sixty on the nose?

1180
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: Are you doing like a hick club? Pity mixed banger,

1181
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: d J, Marshmallowbacker, Well, Marvin Lewis is idiot's starting to

1182
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: go somewhere. What's your favorite type of frog? Stupid up

1183
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: shark too,