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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to move the sticks.

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Speaker 2: DJ.

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Speaker 1: Buck back with you, Buck, It's it's good to be back. Man,

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Speaker 1: those Monday night games. I don't know how you do

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Speaker 3: So doing the London thing, it like, it's not the

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Speaker 2: I was cool.

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Speaker 3: It's the next night that kind of throws you off

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Speaker 2: But not DJ, Like even the Monday night game that

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Speaker 3: Like flying back, trying to get from the airport to

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Speaker 1: it does give you a little appreciation for some of

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Speaker 1: these teams and these players that you know, have a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that's why everyone is trying to find

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Speaker 3: the secret sauce, the right recipe and formula to get

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Speaker 3: playing on a Thursday night, if you're the road team normally,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm something you have a day off in between.

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Speaker 2: That means you only have really a day and a

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Speaker 3: Through, because I know sometimes what they'll do is they'll

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Speaker 3: So you're gone, you know, And that's what I mean,

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Speaker 1: No doubt, we are going to get to our game

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Speaker 1: of the week, which we have as the Bills and

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Speaker 2: So we'll preview that one.

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Speaker 1: And just a little bit I had some rookie stuff

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Speaker 1: get your reaction. First of all, Philadelphia, I feel like, man,

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Speaker 1: everybody kind of kicked dirt on the Eagles and you

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Speaker 3: So The Philadelphia Eagles are one of those teams that

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Speaker 3: do believe in that theory. They're gonna double up. Whatever

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Speaker 1: You look at all the different numbers and you sort everything.

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Speaker 3: So having a chance to see him every weekend and

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Speaker 3: They said the leak Neighbors has the competitive gene, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he is more than just someone who can

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Speaker 1: Quarterback play is different around the league with who these

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Speaker 1: Bucky Irving's been the top running back, you know, so

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Speaker 3: Bucky Irving has some really intriguing traits. When you watched

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Speaker 1: Perimeter at Bucky Irving, I'm looking at my notes. I

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Speaker 2: No doubt. All Right, this was the number. That's the numbers.

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks has twenty seven scrambles. Caleb Williams has thirteen scrambles.

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Speaker 1: Tell us that's what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Right after this, it's time for Game of the Week

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Speaker 3: presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. This week, it's the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 3: a half DJ. This is a great game to check out.

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Speaker 3: You got a Seattle Seahawks coming off a resounding victory

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Speaker 2: They're dangerous.

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Speaker 2: But they can run the football and play physically. This

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was the lone wolf on these picks we

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Speaker 1: Gino has been really good. DK and him are on

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Speaker 1: So they've got an ice complimentary thing going on offensively now. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: But I think the Seahawks, it's a good football team,

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Speaker 3: No, not easy place to go play on the road,

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Speaker 3: and you got to make sure that you have it together,

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Speaker 3: Look at these teams, I think not that it's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean absolutely, And it's gonna come down to

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Speaker 3: Saw how well he played immediately when he jumped on

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Speaker 3: Are they a defensive lead team or they offensive lead team?

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Speaker 1: Last question for me on this game, Josh Allen twelve touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: Yes, he does. Josh Allen continues to take care of it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, it'll be. It'll be a fun game up there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's going to be a fun weekend of football.

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Speaker 2: Man, really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Also, I want to remind everybody we have Mario Christobal,

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