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Speaker 1: Okay, great feeds.

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, all right, Hi everybody, and welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Renee Stubs Tennis Podcast. I'm here with Caitlin.

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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and I'm Anastasia. We're of Ground Pass Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I just had to remind Anastasia to lift her my cup. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So hi everybody. We are in live in Brooklyn. We

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Speaker 2: have right behind us right now the Alcarez and Ben

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Speaker 2: Shelton match. But forget about the guys, Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the women. I mean, how good has been the tennis today?

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Speaker 2: From the women's matches, We've got so much to talk

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Speaker 2: about in general terms. But what do you want to

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Speaker 2: start with today, Caitlin and Anastasia, Well.

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Speaker 3: Honest, Asia, I just want to say kudos to you.

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Speaker 4: You've been in residence, yes here and mcceren pok If

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Speaker 4: anybody in New York City know the wonderful mccarren Park

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Speaker 3: I just came from there when I've played with my.

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Speaker 4: Son, and they have this lovely park house in the middle.

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Speaker 4: And you've been doing screenings every day for the last week.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for the last week, we've been doing screenings of

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Speaker 1: Roland Garros. I thought it'd be great. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: sports bars, there's a football you can watch the baseball

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Speaker 1: screen the tennis. I thought, wouldn't it be great if

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Speaker 1: I could help do that. And we're doing that for

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Speaker 1: a few days. We just did this past week and

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Speaker 3: If you're up at like seven, you're here at seven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they open at seven, so I'm here at seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, and guess what, people, we're watching the French Open.

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Speaker 2: So it's in Paris. Yeah, so it's six hours later.

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Speaker 3: Which I love. Yeah, by the way, I love waking

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Speaker 4: And let's get into the ladies because the first thing

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Speaker 4: I turned on was the s Fitzolina Jasmine Paolini match.

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Speaker 4: I know you're I don't actually know how you feel

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Speaker 4: about it being the Elena's Fiddelina fan you are, But

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Speaker 4: Paulini is I think you've said many times your favorite.

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Speaker 2: Pauline is my favorite player to watch. I've always loved her.

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Speaker 2: Switzerlina is literally the best player to not win a

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Speaker 2: Paulini had her chances. She had three match points. I

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Speaker 2: And you know, as I've spoken, she's teeny daney, she's

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Speaker 2: And then she played more aggressive. She came in on

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Speaker 1: I hadn't watched Selena this whole tournament. This was my

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Speaker 2: You know, she just sort of.

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Speaker 1: Quietly got to this round and it was a shape

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows we like to argue, but usually it's because

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Speaker 3: Why hasn't Elena Spitelina want her grandsame?

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Speaker 2: Simple? She doesn't have a big weapon. And you could

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Speaker 4: Good getting back to spiddle in it. Because I'm usually

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Speaker 2: Well, because I tried to tell you she doesn't push.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't do it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's a difference between pushing and not not

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Speaker 4: So that leads me to the next question, which is

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Speaker 4: the person I have been on the tennis court? I

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Speaker 4: assume I'm hopefully not. But Anastasia you told me at

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Speaker 4: the bagels over there, yeah, kindly donated for her live

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Speaker 3: Very delicious bagels.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Curley's Bagels, They're the best. Throw it out,

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Speaker 4: that Yugoshiantek had in fact prevailed over Elena Rebeke, and I.

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy because that first set was you know,

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Speaker 2: Certainly right now. I think the biggest turnaround was that

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Speaker 3: And they have to go sadeways and then they're in

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Speaker 2: And the thing is that Rebarkina doesn't move that well.

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Speaker 2: Her backhand's her best shot, but it's going to go

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Speaker 2: what happened in the second set was first of all,

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Speaker 2: rebarkiing a missed the easiest folly to lose serve.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that.

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Speaker 4: Don't go to off, please please don't ask her about

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Speaker 4: the valley technique of the WT. To her professional status

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Speaker 4: here at God, I mean, if we may have an

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Speaker 2: Listen, if I had those groundstrokes would have been real good,

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Speaker 2: Ye okay, now I'm ahead in the game. Eager did

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Speaker 3: Of the drib.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna it's murderer's row in front of her still

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Francis brother twin brother.

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Speaker 1: But no, I actually saw her at Charleston. I got

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just looking behind you because on now screen

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Speaker 2: Way to go, and the one that didn't make it

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Speaker 3: Clearly Fritz Klayla.

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Speaker 2: Fritz Klayla's on the grass already, he's serving.

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Speaker 4: Tommy Paul really deserves to be on the dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he deserves he deserves the success.

434
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Speaker 3: He's the furthest. He's got him the furthest look because

435
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,200
Speaker 3: now he's into the next round.

436
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 2: He has not played well at the French of the years,

437
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,359
Speaker 2: even though he won the juniors at the French Open,

438
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,359
Speaker 2: which is crazy I just creak about, but nice to

439
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,440
Speaker 2: see him and he's battled in this tournament at least

440
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 2: two right, two back to back and round and second round.

441
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,160
Speaker 2: So the fact that he's now cruising, it's like, now

442
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 2: he's match fit big time. Now you know he can

443
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Speaker 2: go five sets and not fall apart physically, and that

444
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,040
Speaker 2: is important going forward. It's almost like when you training

445
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 2: for a marathon, you know, and you do six miles,

446
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Speaker 2: and you do eight miles and your fourteen miles, and

447
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,639
Speaker 2: then all son you go to the marathon, You're like, Okay,

448
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 2: I can get there. It's almost like he's he's now

449
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,280
Speaker 2: marathon tested with his legs and he won fairly comfortably today,

450
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,879
Speaker 2: so that's now going, okay, now I feel good, So

451
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 2: that's huge.

452
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Speaker 3: I kind of think he's my favorite.

453
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Speaker 4: American man as of now that Kayler is gone. No no, no, no,

454
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Speaker 4: I mean listen, did you guys see his GQ photo

455
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Speaker 4: spread where he's on the boat with the girlfriend and

456
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Speaker 4: they're in Berbery and they're fishing. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

457
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,120
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, Tommy, Paul is going to tell me, Paul,

458
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:32,679
Speaker 4: that's fine.

459
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Speaker 3: He's, you know, just a guy from the farm. He's

460
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Speaker 3: cracking a brew.

461
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Speaker 2: He guy is a great guy. By the way, I

462
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Speaker 2: really like it, a great guy.

463
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Speaker 4: I think he's my favorite American man to go deep

464
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 4: into this tournament because of his game style, because as

465
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 4: you say, of his fitness and finally maybe he's you

466
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 4: know gotten. Listen, we're here watching Benny Shell's take on

467
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Speaker 4: Carlito's Alcaaz.

468
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Speaker 2: And Carlito's Achoraz just took a massive spill on the

469
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Speaker 2: court and least did not look good getting up. I

470
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 2: can tell you that he's limping. I think he may

471
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Speaker 2: have gone over and his ankle. Actually, we're going to

472
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Speaker 2: take a little look at it here as he's running.

473
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Speaker 2: Oh no, he went over the front. He went over

474
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Speaker 2: the front. It's not as bad.

475
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Speaker 3: Still would have hurt. You don't like to see that.

476
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's more embarrassing than anything else. Funny thing

477
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: happened last PSG won the whatever the whatever it was.

478
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Speaker 2: Someone's gonna yell at me for not knowing that you

479
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: wave a cup. Maybe it's football, I don't care your

480
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Speaker 2: Premier leagu Yeah whatever, there's so.

481
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Speaker 3: Many, so many champions.

482
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Speaker 4: We've got a we've got a new lovely englishman down

483
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Speaker 4: from the crowd.

484
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Speaker 5: Ye.

485
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Speaker 2: So apparently there was a lot of partying, a lot

486
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Speaker 2: of fireworks and a lot of horn honking going on

487
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 2: to about four in the morning, so every player has

488
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: barely slept last night. The commentators have been talking about.

489
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Speaker 4: It was also funny because pH PSG Paris, their stadium

490
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 4: is right across the street from Rolan Garas. Yeah, so

491
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Speaker 4: that's the same part of town, and it's the same

492
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Speaker 4: hotels presumably and all that.

493
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Speaker 2: No, but they weren't playing there. They were playing in Munich.

494
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's where they're going to be celebrated.

495
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 2: The partying be.

496
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Speaker 3: Time at the stadium.

497
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Speaker 2: So I've been in cities where that has happened and

498
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Speaker 2: it's brutal. I was in Madrid when Moral Madrid won

499
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: the probably the same thing and it was just major

500
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Speaker 2: party to like four in the morning. So sorry to

501
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Speaker 2: everyone in Paris, but sucks suck it because we're here.

502
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: Finally the sun's out here in New York, so that's nice.

503
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Speaker 2: You guys wanted to talk a little bit about TNT

504
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: and about the coverage. Oh yeah, Like I have to

505
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: be a little bit careful because I work for ESPN,

506
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: but I also would love a job with TNT next year.

507
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 2: Just putting that out there.

508
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Speaker 3: So maybe you can be in Paris this time next year.

509
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Speaker 4: T Yeah, I wanted to talk about it, and actually,

510
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Speaker 4: Benny Sheells gives us a good opportunity. Ben Shelton has

511
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Speaker 4: spoken about how much he appreciates the fact that fans

512
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Speaker 4: back home, and it probably also has a little something

513
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Speaker 4: to do with the fact that there's at least of

514
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Speaker 4: this as of this morning, eight Americans still in the tournament.

515
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Speaker 4: But the US coverage, in the minds of many has

516
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Speaker 4: been very good yes year, or a step up from

517
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Speaker 4: the Tennis Channel, who was hosting this event this time

518
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Speaker 4: last year.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I have to agree with him because I

520
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Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect. I watched a lot of

521
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Speaker 1: tennis and a lot of different services, and I didn't

522
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Speaker 1: know what to expect coming in with T and T

523
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Speaker 1: and they had this.

524
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Speaker 4: So you were a TV and film professional, So I

525
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 4: actually think your critiques are quite on point and certainly

526
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Speaker 4: more evolved than my own.

527
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: I do this for a living, But I I didn't

528
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Speaker 1: know what to expect from the rally. I thought, Okay,

529
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Speaker 1: I saw the personalities that they put together.

530
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Speaker 4: And the rally is what they call the rally is

531
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Speaker 4: like their more dust show.

532
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their morning show. They go match to match,

533
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: so they sort of go wherever the action is, And

534
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Speaker 1: if you're a casual fan just turning on the TV

535
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: and you don't know what you're watching, you can't tell

536
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: Ben Shelton from Carlos Algarez. Really it was perfect and

537
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Speaker 1: they there was a lot of explaining they were doing

538
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: and this is who this player is, and that's what

539
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Speaker 1: that means, and this is what this percentage means. And

540
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Speaker 1: I just thought it was brilliant in a way I

541
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Speaker 1: was not expecting.

542
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Speaker 4: At all, Like it was very not necessarily in a

543
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: bad way, but like very entry level friendly. Yeah, and

544
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 4: it's definitely presumably that's what's on T and T, which

545
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: is the main channel now.

546
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Speaker 2: Is that the one where they would talk over everything.

547
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Speaker 2: It was funny because I think there's been I think

548
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: there's been mixed reviews on that. I think some people

549
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: are such tennis enthusiasts and so traditional watching tennis fans.

550
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Speaker 2: That's a lot of stuff that I've read on the internet.

551
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Speaker 2: A lot of people hated that. So it hands up

552
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Speaker 2: for the rally people that here that have watched that.

553
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Speaker 2: Did you like the commentary over you like the commentary

554
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Speaker 2: over the the se We just had one person say

555
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: yes and one person say no.

556
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

557
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: But that's but that's exactly what we're talking.

558
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Speaker 1: About, right, And I think if you are a tennis fan,

559
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Speaker 1: like if you're me, and you want to watch a

560
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: specific match, when you want to watch it, how you

561
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Speaker 1: want to watch it, I always say, go for streaming,

562
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Speaker 1: get each bo max and pick make your own choice.

563
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Speaker 2: I have Caitlin, especially in Spanish.

564
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, right, hold for applause. I watched TV

565
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Speaker 4: in Spanish.

566
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thank you.

567
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: No, that was just Jenny closing her water bottle. That

568
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: wasn't a plus. No, I agree with you.

569
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Speaker 4: I only go to streaming. I don't watch the Desk

570
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Speaker 4: Show unless I'm getting some added value commentary from the

571
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Speaker 4: desk people, which you know on ESPN there are a few.

572
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Speaker 3: That I like.

573
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Speaker 4: I like Darren Cahill, I like Chris mccenrey. That's kind

574
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Speaker 4: of it.

575
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Speaker 3: But again that's my sitting here. Well, you're not on

576
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Speaker 3: the desk. You're somebody calling matches.

577
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Speaker 2: I'm on the desk.

578
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: Fine.

579
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Speaker 4: Renee Stubbs added to that number. But I feel like

580
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Speaker 4: I've heard a lot of the same people. You know what,

581
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Speaker 4: I haven't heard a lot of Sloan Stevens, who credit

582
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: has been on the Tennis Channel and done TMSPAN stuff.

583
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Speaker 4: But it's great that she's on Desk Venus Williams interviewing

584
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Speaker 4: people for vignettes, like yeah, because you banks like I.

585
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Speaker 3: Like Sam Querry. I think he's doing a great job.

586
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: Like I do, think there's some new energy.

587
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Speaker 4: I don't care about the Desk Show, so I don't

588
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 4: watch that because to your point, I'm a tennis person,

589
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 4: but I want people to feel like they have an

590
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 4: entry in in and I think one time making, you know,

591
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 4: having a commentariat that is filled with a lot of

592
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: folks who haven't played or coached since the eighties, like

593
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 4: kind of needs to be rethought at some of these

594
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Speaker 4: other networks because I.

595
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Speaker 3: Love what I'm seeing in that regard I chanting.

596
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: And they definitely could, you know, bring more voices in

597
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: and new people and fresh faces and things like that.

598
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: But I think what they're doing for new fans and

599
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: people just discovering it. That's the thing about TNT. You

600
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: turn on your TV and it just happens to be

601
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: there and you can you know, watch it and stumble

602
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: on it, which we never really had before with Tennis

603
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: Channel or with ESPN. ESPN a little bit you could

604
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Speaker 1: kind of stumble on it. But I like this roundtable

605
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: roving to different matches because I, as if I was

606
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: a sort of casual viewer, I don't know what's the

607
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: exciting match, and I don't know why it's exciting, and

608
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: then they do the explaining for you.

609
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean sometimes, you know, as somebody who's just

610
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: behind the mic, I don't get to choose right what

611
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Speaker 2: matches we want. And there are times where I have

612
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: to say, you know, producer will pick a match and

613
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: I'll be like, really that match, what about the women's

614
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: match over here that's in a tiebreak and we're in

615
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: the first game of a men's five setter. Nobody cares

616
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: about that match at the moment, you know what I mean,

617
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: So like that sort of drives me crazy. That is

618
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: a little bit skewed. No offense to the guys. Some

619
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: guys are just like, yeah, but it's Alcarez versus somebody

620
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: in the first game, and I'm like, yeah, but it's

621
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: six all in the third over here with two women

622
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: that are having an amazing match, and people want to

623
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: see excitement. They don't necessarily, Yes, everybody wants to watch

624
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: a star like a Novak or a sinner or whatever.

625
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: But if it's one love in the first set of

626
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: a men's five setter, it's not an important moment in

627
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: the match. What's the important moment in match is over

628
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: on Susan Longlan and it's six all in the third.

629
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: So that's where that option is really great, because I go,

630
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: let's go over there. I do like the fact that

631
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: even looking at this match that Ben Shelton's playing with Alcarez,

632
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: and Alcarez looks fine by the way Swan Stevens is

633
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: on the court side position, so it's nice that they're

634
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: mixing and ESPN are starting to do that. They put

635
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: I've done a bunch of matches court side. I think

636
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: it's great to have a different perspective. You don't always

637
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: have to have women on men's women's matches and men

638
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: on men's matches. It is nice to mix it up,

639
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: and I think ESPN are starting to do that more

640
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: and more, because I know for myself, I've done a

641
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: couple of men's matches over the last couple of Grand Slams,

642
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: so that's nice. It's a different perspective. You don't always

643
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: have to have the same sex calling the same sex

644
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: matches and so that's I like that. That's a nice

645
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: thing to see. But I think TNT do need and

646
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying because I'm not there, but I think

647
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: they do need a couple more women. They've got like

648
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: nineteen guys there and ten women.

649
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 4: I can think of two brothers who I've heard enough

650
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 4: of through the years. Just I said it, nobody else

651
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: said it. I'm just I'm saying it, like, do we

652
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: need these guys?

653
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: Are more of these guys?

654
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 6: Like?

655
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: That's enough.

656
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: One thing I did see earlier, and I've already talked

657
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: to you guys about it. There's a side angle, far

658
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: away camera that they used today with Paoollini and Switzerlina.

659
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: It was a set five four fifteen thirty to go

660
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: down fifteen forty i e. Two match points for a

661
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: Pallini and they had a far wide camera off to

662
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: the side. You couldn't even see the ball.

663
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: You're like, what was happening here?

664
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: T ANDT love the coverage, but that camera angle god

665
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: a god. Yeah, Yeah, don't ever applied that unless it's

666
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: to show the grounds and the crowd.

667
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: And everything sets or something.

668
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 4: I think the reason I wanted to talk about commentating

669
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: so much in the commentary and the coverage is because

670
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: I'm sitting with literally two experts.

671
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: You work in the TV and film industry.

672
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: You have been a commentator for the last better part

673
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: of two decades, and you're excellent at it universally thought,

674
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: not just my own and I it really matters. And

675
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 4: to me, the reason it really matters is because tennis

676
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: is growing, and tennis is attracted a whole bunch of

677
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 4: new fans, putting it someplace where nobody can find it,

678
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: and talking to people like they've lived with it their

679
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: whole lives and they know everything. Or you've got people

680
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: who haven't you know, done the research for the prep

681
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: to bring you into it, which is guilty of sometimes

682
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: of the folks who just kind of takes take a

683
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: faranta that people know and care about it seem to

684
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: be on the way out. And I like that because

685
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: it means that all the foks that I talk to

686
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 4: who are maybe newer to the sport trying to get

687
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: into it exactly what you said, need some guidances to

688
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: actually this is the more interesting match, or let's go

689
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: over here at this exciting part of this match.

690
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: And even if you've never heard of these two.

691
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: People, we're gonna explain why they're actually incredibly exciting to watch.

692
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: And here's Elena's Fidelina, whose country, by the way, is

693
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: like still getting bombed by Russia and she's had a

694
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: lot to say about it and you've got a feel

695
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: for her. And she's married to Gail mon Fist. And

696
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: here's Jasmine Paulini, who's got the irrepressible personality, who made

697
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 4: the final in this term of last year and was

698
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: in the final Lowimbledon, Right, like that stuff matters, And

699
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: of course they said it, but I think it bears

700
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 4: repeating for people who are like, hey, if you haven't

701
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 4: heard of these people, that's okay. This is why they're exciting,

702
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: this is why you should care, and you're gonna go

703
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: away having an even longer roster of faves.

704
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: And to me, that I think is upon the.

705
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: Tennis community to do better, to make the door a

706
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: little bit more visibly open.

707
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: So thank you for indulging me, because that was my

708
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: idea to talk about it.

709
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: And I ag I think this is their first year.

710
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I think, do they just sign a ten year ten years?

711
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: So it's not my kid, by the way, it's not yours.

712
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: Either no, nobody can hear that.

713
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: No, but you know, this is their first year. I

714
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: think they will learn a lot ye this, hopefully take

715
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: the feedback and come back even better, but first try

716
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: not bad.

717
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: I would say, I really really also hope that every

718
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: other broadcaster who has tennis rights gets the right lessons

719
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: from this, which is like, hey, maybe we're actually doing

720
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: better than this and we don't need to change, or

721
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 4: maybe the tech, the streaming, the way that we can

722
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: find multiple channels. Like I said, I like watching it

723
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: in Spanish, especially if I don't like the people who

724
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: are calling it in English, then all of a sudden,

725
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 4: I have a different option. I used to be able

726
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: to do that on ESPN Deportes and I miss it

727
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: and I would like to have it back. And actually

728
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: the guys who used to call it want Carlos Ferro

729
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: and Pereira are now over on tant On Max. So

730
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: I like the fact that there's optionality, and I hope

731
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: people are taking this very seriously, and I suspect that

732
00:30:59,480 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: they are.

733
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Espano we stream everything. I mean there's not

734
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: a court that you can't watch basically at Wimbledon, US Open,

735
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Australian Open.

736
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: I will see. The one thing about ESPN I love

737
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: so especially in the early rounds. I like the multi view,

738
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: like you watch that you have the four boxes on ESPN.

739
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: You can pick your matches on ten tup N.

740
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 6: Mhm h m hmmm.

741
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: So listener Max they have on there, and a lot

742
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: of times it's the same thing and two different.

743
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: Ste Some people were complaining that there was no commentary

744
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: at all on some of the outside courts that they

745
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: were streaming, which frankly by me, but also at the

746
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: same time, if you have good commentary, that does add

747
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: to a tennis match, because it's it's good to be

748
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: able to teach somebody what they're seeing and what they

749
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: should look out for, etc.

750
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 5: Etc.

751
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Like today I would have I would have said earlier

752
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: in the Sriantech rebarking a match, if she doesn't well,

753
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: I tweeted it, so if you follow me on Twitter

754
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: you see that stuff. But I did say, if she

755
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: doesn't start getting her first serve in the court whatever,

756
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: that's first survey is, she will get crushed today. And

757
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: that's what changed immediately. So if someone's sitting at home,

758
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: they can go, oh, I'm gonna keep I'm going to

759
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: watch for that, Yeah, I'm going to watch to see

760
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: if she's getting a first serve and if she misses,

761
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: you go, oh, see she missed her first serve. That's

762
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: why she lost that point again because she's getting behind

763
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: and the point immediately. So it's good to teach people

764
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: like that at home because if you're not an exer's

765
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: like me watching basketball. I mean, I love watching basketball

766
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: and I'm into it, but there are certain things. When

767
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: they run a play, I'm like, what was that? Like, Oh,

768
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: it's a ghost screen. I'm like, what the hell does

769
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: that mean? You know what I mean? But then someone

770
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: teaches it to me and go, oh, now I can

771
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: look out for that.

772
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

773
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: So that's what's important about really good commentary and people

774
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: that are good at it, but teaching you those things.

775
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: And I mean I enjoy watching when Lindsay's commentary because

776
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: she's pretty thoughtful with her commentary. Not a lot of words,

777
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: just the perfect amount of balance for me. So should

778
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: we talk about the guys or do we want to

779
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: just forget about them because the women were so good

780
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: today that's true. Or while we're on the women, should

781
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: we talk about the fact that Angebur's little monologue the

782
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: other Day has gotten a lot of attention based on

783
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: the fact that Emily Moresmo, who's the tonment director the

784
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: Australia of the shouldn't be a strain open. That's Craig

785
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Tail and he does a very good job of equality.

786
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: But she has not put a women's match on at night. Now,

787
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: the whole complaint is, well, the women's is best of three,

788
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: it could be an hour. The people aren't getting what

789
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: they want. Well, then put two matches on at night

790
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: and started at five, like, it's not brain surgery here.

791
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: And the fact that you have not played one women's match,

792
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: and we've had great women's matches, great women's names playing

793
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: against each other early on in the tournament. It's just

794
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: it's shocking to me that she doesn't understand how bad

795
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: that looks.

796
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: I think she do.

797
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: You want to back up and give some context here

798
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: for the un initiator who have not followed this.

799
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: So it's basically what's going on is I think now

800
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: it's been this is the third year running there has

801
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: been no women's match in the night sessions.

802
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: They've really had like two in three years.

803
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there is so there's only one. There is

804
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: a night session on Philip Chatrier and there's only one

805
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: match that the PM that they put on, and it's

806
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: been men for the last two and a half years.

807
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: And Emily Moresmo, a Grand Slam champion from France, has

808
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: been the tournament director for the last couple of years.

809
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: A woman who's a woman and a gay lady, which

810
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 4: I only bring up because she should know something about

811
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 4: feeling marginalized. Because of two of those attributes, she has

812
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: been the face of the decision making. It may not

813
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: be her decision, no, it is her decision. Maybe in

814
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: the end, is Tommy hass making all the decisions in

815
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: Indian wells or is it it's a South African dude

816
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: who they never actually go listen.

817
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: Emily Moresmo is the one that makes the final decision.

818
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: She gets input but from TV, no question. She gets

819
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: input from the WTA and the ATP, no question. But

820
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: in the end she's the one that says, you.

821
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 4: Know, I think there's some French guy in a suit

822
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: being like, oh sucker blue.

823
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 2: Well then she went in. Then she should quit.

824
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I'm just like that.

825
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: She should quit. She said, I don't have any control.

826
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: This is not my fault. These guys are making decisions.

827
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm the one that's the face of the decision. I'm

828
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: the one that's getting screwed over in public. Fuck it,

829
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm out of here unless she agrees. That's what I'm saying.

830
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: She's a green.

831
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

832
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 6: So the.

833
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: Thought here really is.

834
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: Is because it's sort of been the points she's made

835
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: a couple of times, and when asked about it, some

836
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: of the players have been exceptionally eloquent and thoughtful and poetical,

837
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: which anstubbur released to your point a eight paragraph let

838
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: up letter create a cur uh called arms about how

839
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: exceptional these women. You know, if they win, oh and oh,

840
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: it's not the lifetime of uh, you know, practice and

841
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: skill that they've developed.

842
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: It's that the match was too easy.

843
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: If they win in a tough match, it's that nobody

844
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: wants to close that out in their week, not the

845
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: fact that they're battling with every fiber there being paraphrasing,

846
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 4: you know, uh Cocoa Goff, who is one of our

847
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: sport's finest uh and most I think possiful yeah, uh

848
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: and and understands history, has also been you know, really

849
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: forthcoming about it. Other players, you know, the uh two

850
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: very storied Grand Slam champions Egoshmantek and Arena Sablanca were

851
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: both like, and I don't really like playing a night.

852
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ega doesn't like playing a night because it's heavier

853
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: conditions and she likes the fasta conditions. It's just like

854
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: Rafa would have begged to not play at night.

855
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: Sure, so she is thought up in a conflagration of no.

856
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: There's some players that go in and say, I do

857
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: not want to play at night. I'm a three time

858
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: defending champion, and you will play me in the day,

859
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: and they go, Okay.

860
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 3: I'm neither.

861
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: I'm neither criticizing nor defending Ego on that or Arena,

862
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: who said the same thing, I also would not want

863
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: to play at night. That said, for the point, the

864
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: point I think that we're discussing here, which is what

865
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 4: Amaloe Moresmo is not doing, is the optics of having

866
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 4: very few in the last couple of years women sort

867
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: of taking that equal mantle of the prime time at night.

868
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's unfortunate.

869
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean the bodoza Osaka match should have

870
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: been at night. Yeah, that was a great match to

871
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: have at night. Two very well known players you would

872
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: argue that it was probably going to be a pretty

873
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: competitive match. Both were playing.

874
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: Well, and it was and they did and.

875
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: Look what happened. Now you could argue, well, sinner one

876
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: the other day, six love six one sixty two. Now

877
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: if that had been at night, it would have still

878
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: been really boring. So it's like, you don't know if

879
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: a match is going to.

880
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: Be greater on Okay, I hear all the arguments and

881
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: I see what's going on, and it's very it's not fair,

882
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: it's not equal. The women are not getting cleaned to

883
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: plant Nate. And with all the things that issues with

884
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: schedule and players and everything, do you not think or

885
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't the players be more vocal about wanting this change

886
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: to happen, to almost force the change to happen.

887
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they, yeah, the one person, but they

888
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: have through the years. I think there's some players that

889
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: have through these. But in the end, you just like,

890
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: that's where you as a player going. This is not

891
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: my responsibility. This is the WTA's responsibility. To fight the

892
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: fight more. This is for Porscha and for the WTA,

893
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: not p l CEO. Yeah, to go in and fight,

894
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: fight the fight a little bit more and her be

895
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: more vocal. And she's been fantastic in a lot of things,

896
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: but I think that that's where she needs to be

897
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: a little bit more vocal.

898
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: I also I want to credit the journalists on the ground,

899
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: which usually I'm quick to get critique. Matthew Fetterman from

900
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: The Athletic, who's a fine journalist, was the one who

901
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: sort of forced issue and he called Amalia Moresmo to

902
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 4: task for it with the stats, and she was nowhere

903
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: to be found.

904
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: I mean, for me, my sort.

905
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: Of solution oriented brain goes to like, well, everyone should

906
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: play three sets in the first week, everyone should play

907
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: five sets in the second week. Then you have no

908
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 4: argument either way, and you just it's a grab bag

909
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 4: of which are the biggest marquee matchups and you take

910
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 4: a rotation one and one.

911
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: That's what the US Open does. And I can see the.

912
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 4: Argument of why a very fast early round women's match

913
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: versus a very fast early round men's match, at least

914
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: you get one more set of the ladder. And so

915
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: I think until those inequalities in the actual structure of

916
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: the game and slams persist, you're gonna be able to

917
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: hide behind this argument whether or not it's true, whether

918
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 4: or not it's actually valuable, et cetera. So for me,

919
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: I would like actually them to just finally, finally embrace that.

920
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 4: And I think again with the reason I'm trying to

921
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: tie these themes of new fanship and new voices and

922
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: new people interested in tennis is they're coming into this

923
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: not understanding why these rules exist, and a lot of

924
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: cases it's stupid.

925
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the roof for all?

926
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: Then?

927
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 4: Yes, Actually my roof rulers are really good.

928
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: Because I'm so been getting abused, like you cannot imagine

929
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: from certain fans. That will remain nameless at this point

930
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: because the other day there was rain that was happening.

931
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: It was one of the first days of the tournament.

932
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: I think it might have been Monday, Monday or Tuesday,

933
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: and there was rain and it was incredibly windy. It

934
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: was the terrible conditions, conditions no tennis player wants to

935
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: play in, by the way, but we play and wind

936
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: I've played in eighty mile an hour winds. It's terrible

937
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: until it becomes dangerous. You keep playing, and on clay,

938
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: if it's sprinkling with rain or it's drizzling, you keep playing.

939
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: It can be raining, sometimes literally, and they're likey, you

940
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: gotta keep playing until it gets unsafe, until there's literally

941
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: puddles start happening on the court, or both players are like,

942
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: I can't see anymore. You keep playing, yeah, And so

943
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 2: the other day a certain player asked for the roof

944
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: to be closed because it was and it was terrible conditions. Now,

945
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: if I was playing on that court, I would have

946
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: also asked the same question. I would have said to

947
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: the umpire, are you going to close the roof? Like,

948
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: why are we closing the roof? I would have asked

949
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: the same question. His opponent also said a game later,

950
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: are we closing the roof? The referee came out and said,

951
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: which is the right thing to do, Just like in Australia,

952
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: we have a roof available, we have three roofs available.

953
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: If it's too hot, you don't close the roof until

954
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: the outside courts have stopped and we need matches to

955
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: be played for television and for the fans. So in

956
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: this case in Paris, they didn't close the roof because

957
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: no other roof closed I e. Susan Longlan and every

958
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: match on the outside court was still being played. So

959
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: it's guess what. The rain is the same on Startrier

960
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: as it is on an outside court and on Langlan.

961
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: So the referee actually did the right thing by saying no, no, no.

962
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: And then eventually two or three games later they closed

963
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: the roof on Shatrier and I was like, this is

964
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: so incredibly unfair to all those schleppers out there on

965
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: the outside courts and the players on Langlan that didn't

966
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: have the roof closed. That is a rule that should

967
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: not that roof should not have closed.

968
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: Talk about why that might or might not be advantaged

969
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: to certain players, which is why it's unfair.

970
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Certain players don't love wind?

971
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: Does any player like?

972
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: Nobody loves wind? And frankly both of the players on

973
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: Chatrier were also like, let's close the roof. This is

974
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: not about the player. Every single player that would have

975
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: been on Sha Trier and probably on Langlan asked to

976
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: have that roof close.

977
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 3: Reading between the lands, it seems like some certain player

978
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: and some certain players fans got.

979
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: Real vocal, your real vocal, and then they am I

980
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: correct something from two years ago that I didn't even

981
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: say on our podcast wasn't me and ripped me in

982
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: a certain countries paper and getting death threats literally from fans.

983
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: Can you guess what fanship this makes?

984
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: So I know exactly the one.

985
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: It's go, go go, No, don't say that. It definitely

986
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: was not Coco. Coco would never do that.

987
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: Cuarantine Moute's got a bunch of frenchmen. But this is

988
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: what this is. After an a and they're gonna kill him.

989
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: No, no, But it's actually a serious situation because these

990
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: people did write it in a paper and attributed me

991
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: to words that were not said by me, by me,

992
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: and and you know, attributed to me, and then people

993
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: come after me on Instagram and on Twitter and all

994
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: the social media's and they're being fed. I never thought

995
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: i'd say this fake news, you know, by this so

996
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: called journalist. And it all started because I made a

997
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: reference to the roof should not have been closed because

998
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: it wasn't closed on any other court and every court

999
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: outside was still playing. And it's it has to be

1000
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: fair for everybody, no matter how famous you are, no

1001
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: matter how important you are, it's that's just not fair

1002
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: to do that. And they did that, and I was

1003
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: like shocked. And that's on the referee again. That's Emily

1004
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: Moresmo is saying, yep, close the roof.

1005
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 5: That's on her.

1006
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: One of us, tily makes that rule at the train

1007
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: open close the roof, and the referee they make it together,

1008
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: and so she made that rule. And so for me,

1009
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's such bullshit.

1010
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, It's something I've always thought about, especially at

1011
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: Grand Slams. This is when it really does come up.

1012
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: Because almost no other tournaments unless it's indoors have so

1013
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: it becomes a political item in these contexts exactly.

1014
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: And there is that, in my opinion, sometimes unfair advantage

1015
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: that top tennis players and.

1016
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: They and they do and they deserve it, because that's

1017
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: not the same.

1018
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely not the same. And I totally take

1019
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: your point because again, like you said, no other roof

1020
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: was closed. People are out there in the wind, in

1021
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: the element playing and.

1022
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: Then people say, oh, but the crowd. I was in

1023
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: the crowd that Dayana was awful conditions and it was windy,

1024
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: it was raining on me.

1025
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there was crowds outside watching the outside groop.

1026
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: There are ground passers on the ground watching.

1027
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: There's the longland that didn't have the roof closes that

1028
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 2: wanted it close.

1029
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: Do you guys want to know my controversial take on this.

1030
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh no, no roofs.

1031
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: Caitlin, and that is the dumbest thing you've said of

1032
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: silly things on our podcast. That might be the dumbest.

1033
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: Tennis is meant to be an outdoor sport.

1034
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: When are paying hundreds of millions of dollars for television

1035
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: rights and you want us to play a replay of

1036
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy eight beyond board John McEnroe's tie break again, which.

1037
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: We used to do constantly Aaron Christian in this country

1038
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: is everyone Jimmy reference because it used to play it

1039
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: during regulations. I just don't think tennis should have roofs.

1040
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 5: No.

1041
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: I think in our current climate and the way it changes.

1042
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: I wish you could see me shaking my head.

1043
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: For the record, everyone I'm looking at is also shaking

1044
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: their head.

1045
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. They're paying two thousand dollars for

1046
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: receive at the US Open and they're like, gotta.

1047
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: Go home, roof And not only that.

1048
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 3: Does separates the real fans from then.

1049
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: The US Open and the USTA and Wimbledon and all

1050
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: of the others don't need to give back their money

1051
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: to all the fans that didn't get any tennis.

1052
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: Look, I'm not saying tennis won't have rooms.

1053
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't think of Jed.

1054
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're not going to solve the Haick Fan

1055
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: austrain Open shouldn't be there. So you know, I think

1056
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: they can have a very nice tournament exactly, just I'm

1057
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: not sure it should be a Grand Slam.

1058
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: You don't have Australian's death threats yet.

1059
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: No, but that's because we're nice. But I'll tell you

1060
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: keep pushing us.

1061
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: Keep pushing us, keep pushing me.

1062
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: Okay, so we actually haven't talked about the man in

1063
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 4: the last ten minutes.

1064
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: Let's talk about some dudes.

1065
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: The Americans are doing great.

1066
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: Americans are doing great. We talked about that Shelton's leading.

1067
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: It actually Shelton's up a mini break in the tie

1068
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: break in the first set here. So this is listen.

1069
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: Someone asked me a couple of years ago, who what

1070
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: was the one American that I thought could win a Slam?

1071
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: And there's no doubt that you said this one. Yes. Why,

1072
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. He has weapons, He has the Hotspur,

1073
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: he actually believes in himself, He has one of the

1074
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: best serves we're ever going to see in tennis, and

1075
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: he has a major, major forehand. So when you have

1076
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: weapons and he's fit, he can stay out there all

1077
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: day and he he's he believes in himself. He's hockey

1078
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: in a good way and we're seeing it today. If

1079
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: he's able to win this match against Alcarez, I god,

1080
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: I would not want to play him on clay. His

1081
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: ball is so heavy on his forehand. He's back and

1082
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: still a bit la, but he can slice, he can

1083
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: get away with it. And he's starting to play a

1084
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: little bit more. He said he watched a lot of

1085
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: Rougher on clay and as a lefty, he's starting to

1086
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: try and implement some of the same patterns and we're

1087
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: seeing that. And my god, if he can get this

1088
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: win today, look out all right.

1089
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: I stand corrected. That sounds like corras On. I mean

1090
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: to me, Tommy's made Sakaraz's game plan.

1091
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: Francis has made semis Yep. Yeah, but again I don't

1092
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: they just don't have the weapons to beat a Sinner

1093
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: or an Alcarez in best of five. Yeah, Ben has

1094
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: the weapons to beat anyone.

1095
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. That's a good point.

1096
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: And I like the fact that as you said he's

1097
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: been studying up if he beats Alca, I mean I

1098
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: kind of thought that would be well into the third

1099
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: set by now with this match, like kind of getting blinked.

1100
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: Carlos loses the first said, he's nine of ten in

1101
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: best of five. That is not a good stat for him.

1102
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: And he is overwhelming favorite when he wins the first set,

1103
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: So this is a rather large set fame.

1104
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 4: The main thing I want Ben Shelton to improve is

1105
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 4: his clothing.

1106
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Well, there's that, there's that the ombre, the ombre.

1107
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: I don't mind the ombre.

1108
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 4: I think the hot trash bag material and the yeah,

1109
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean it's just there's like a brand for clowns.

1110
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 2: Oh. We realized that Janick Sinner looks like super Mario

1111
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: Luigi Luigi Luigi's Yeah, and I love that. Darren Kayala

1112
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: is the one that keeps putting it out there on

1113
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: on Instagram.

1114
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: Former coach. Let's talk about center where I haven't current coach?

1115
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 6: Is he?

1116
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: But I think he has another doesn't?

1117
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: No, he's current coaching?

1118
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 5: All right?

1119
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: What uh is Sinner's drama?

1120
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: Like?

1121
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: What's he playing?

1122
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 6: Like?

1123
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: I haven't watched a single match?

1124
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: Well, he lost three games the other day. The guy's

1125
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: playing so.

1126
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: Well, So it's it's it's been gone fast. That's why

1127
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: I haven't seen him.

1128
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: I think it's it's the Pope bump, you know, the

1129
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Pope bump. Yeah, he met the Pope and then that

1130
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: was it. He's the blessed the pee beat.

1131
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: He's been pee beat.

1132
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: He's the only bump that the Pope's had.

1133
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: Keep keep it moving. What else?

1134
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: What are the men?

1135
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it.

1136
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: I don't have the schedule up because so much.

1137
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: How do you think he's he's going through I mean

1138
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: it seems like he's warming up naicely.

1139
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it hasn't been pushed, which has been

1140
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: really good for him because physically, that's where he's been

1141
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: struggling at slams in the quarters and Semi's gotten injured

1142
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: a couple of times over the last couple You look

1143
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: at the strain and open what happened to him there

1144
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: He's playing some of the best tennis of his career,

1145
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 2: beat al Karez, and then he got injured against Zverev,

1146
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: and then you know, we saw what happened there. Zverev's

1147
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: comfortably moving through the tournament as well. Novak's moving through

1148
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: the tournament pretty well. But this is when the rubber

1149
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: starts meeting the road now with these types of players.

1150
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: We saw it today on the women's side. We've seen it,

1151
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: you know, we're seeing it today on the men's side.

1152
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: And Ben shot just fell on his ass in the

1153
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: tiebreak and I'm not sure, and then Carlos made the volley. Wow,

1154
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: that was a massive point.

1155
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 6: That.

1156
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: So what I have been seeing out of the corner

1157
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: of my eye is Shelton is still bambion Ice. He

1158
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: is still he's Oh that was yeah.

1159
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: Oh he made that volley by the seed of his

1160
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: pants and oh there and Ben ended up on his

1161
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: seat of his pants.

1162
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: There you go.

1163
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: This is a hugely pivotal couple of points here for

1164
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: two of the nicest guys.

1165
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: Should we just wait and watch now?

1166
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: We can see it, we can see it. Who is

1167
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: your favorite at the I mean, Carlos is the favorite

1168
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: to win the French Open. But I'll tell you what,

1169
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: this is some serious pressure now on Carlos five four

1170
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: in the tie break. Should I just do some commentary

1171
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: for you, like I'm working for TT.

1172
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, let's hear it. Let's hear it.

1173
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: Okay, do you like this angle.

1174
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: I do not like.

1175
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: This angle at all. I feel like I'm going to

1176
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: be sick. This is the angle I prefer. Don't worry

1177
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: guys it was a first serve or just panic they

1178
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: thought he'd just double folded. I love the fact that

1179
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: Ben is standing back that far. This is where he's

1180
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: kind of implementing a little bit of the Rafael Nadal tactics.

1181
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: And that was a perfect example. Right, So instead of

1182
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: trying to go in and attack the ball like he's known,

1183
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: Ben to go in and really go for the returns,

1184
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: which is what makes him very dangerous in a lot

1185
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: of ways. But in this occasion it's like he's like,

1186
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: I know that my forehand is as big as yours,

1187
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: and I know I can hit it as well as anyone.

1188
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to run back on the return and I'm

1189
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: going to hit a forehand and I'm going to make

1190
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: you find my backhand. And this is impressive from Ben

1191
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: to try and look for things like Rafael Nadal. You

1192
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: want a couple of matches on this court?

1193
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1194
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: I like this view before the point starts. Yeah, all right,

1195
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: Now it comes down to big Ben's serve. Where does

1196
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: he go.

1197
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 3: Set point number two kick.

1198
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: Kick body serve. I know it's not a bad serve

1199
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: because it's so big and it comes at you at

1200
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: this awkward way.

1201
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 5: Oh.

1202
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: I also love this. Ben's father, who's his coach, is

1203
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: wearing the earpiece and they're talking to him during the match.

1204
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: I kind of like that one.

1205
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: After thee Yeah, I think he goes big tea. He

1206
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: went to the body, but he must just saying sorry

1207
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: to tell you this, it doesn't count if it doesn't

1208
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: go in. Ooh, what a serve.

1209
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: This is the way to oh man.

1210
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: I'd see. That's where Carlos. He found the back end, right,

1211
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: he found the back end, and that's and that's sort

1212
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: of the key, and that that could be the most

1213
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 2: pivotal point in the entire match. Anyway, I think if

1214
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Carlos wins this match, he still wins the tournament. I

1215
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 2: think he's the favorite. Yanick is obviously playing very well,

1216
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: and I think Yanick will have learned so much over

1217
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks about playing matches again. He

1218
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: was out for three months, as we all know, the

1219
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: stupidest thing I've ever heard in my whole life, but

1220
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: him being back, getting all these matches under his belt

1221
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: and best of five sets. I think that he's going

1222
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: to be very hard to beat as well. But the

1223
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: way it is right now that they're both going to

1224
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: beat in the final if they keep playing, if Carlos

1225
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: wins this match, and I think that's deservedly what the

1226
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: final should be. But we'll see.

1227
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: Do you think this is Novak's last friendship? And I

1228
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: watched him for the last night. He looked amazing, but

1229
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: as you said, the rubber has yet really to hit

1230
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: the red.

1231
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I think that this is probably his

1232
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: last year. I just can't see him grinding through losing

1233
00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: in early.

1234
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 5: I mean, if he.

1235
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: Wins here, for example, wins Wimblan, maybe, but I just

1236
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: think the only thing that's even remotely getting him up

1237
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: to go and practice and work out and all the

1238
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: stuff is winning twenty five Grand Slams. And so if

1239
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: he wins his twenty fifth Grand Slam this year, I

1240
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: just can't imagine him getting up to want to do

1241
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: it over and over and be away from his kids

1242
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 2: who are getting older. And yes, that's why not because

1243
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't think he can win more. I just think

1244
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: it's at some point it just becomes really hard to

1245
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: keep putting yourself through hell, which is what playing tennis

1246
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: professionally is in a lot of ways.

1247
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: All right, set point number three, second serve.

1248
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah again, look for the forehand and see Carlos is

1249
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: just trying to keep it on his back end because

1250
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to deal with that forehand. It's so big.

1251
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: Oh he's coming in. Oh a volley. Gosh, that was

1252
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: a good volley. That was a goody.

1253
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,959
Speaker 3: And I like the dad is you know, dad's giving well.

1254
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: Ben's dad was a servant volleyer, so he knows that

1255
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: that was a good volley. That was actually good vite,

1256
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You can't help but sort

1257
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: of react like that when you know how difficult this

1258
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: show was, because it was he hit it, he hit

1259
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 2: it hard, and he got it below the net beautiful,

1260
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: and he was able to put a little backspin on

1261
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: it like they're just to keep it low.

1262
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 6: That was.

1263
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: That was money. That was great. Okay, all right, we're

1264
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: coming down to the end here, and this is just

1265
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: the first set. This is where you're going to see

1266
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: if Carlos keeps his See now he's in a bit

1267
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: of trouble because now it's fourhanded back end and see

1268
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: Carlos is like, Oh, I'm gonna test you. Oh, that's

1269
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: a big error. It's a big er. Someone's excited about

1270
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: Carlos in the crowd. I mean, I will say he's

1271
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: one of the greatest guys you could ever meet in

1272
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 2: your whole life. Like, there's never a time where he's

1273
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: in a bad mood. There's never a time where he

1274
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: doesn't say hello to you. It's never a time where

1275
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't say hello to everyone around him. And I've

1276
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: told the story where I'd interviewed him at Wembledon a

1277
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and he thanked every single person

1278
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: that was on my crew, the sound, the lighting, though,

1279
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: camera guys, the people that were the runners. And I'm like,

1280
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: did he do something with you guys yesterday? And they go, no,

1281
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: I've never met him, And I'm like, my god, he's

1282
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: just that nice to every single person. Oh, it's been corrected.

1283
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: It's in what do you think about the no electronic

1284
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: line column? I think it's dumb. We should just have

1285
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: the electronic Oh cadear, nooney. Oh today he came out

1286
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: of the chair and it almost cost Eager the match. Yes,

1287
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: and it almost costs a rebarking of the match in

1288
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: a lot of ways because.

1289
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 5: We got it.

1290
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, this tie break is coming down. But it

1291
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: was interesting. So I don't know if you saw the match.

1292
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't think you did because a huge cater Nuoni.

1293
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: So this was one of the most incredible. And I'm

1294
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: hard on umpires because there me over a couple of times.

1295
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: But Kadean NOONI there was a it was four all

1296
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: in the third set, I believe, and Rebarkina hit a

1297
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: double fault and it was called double fault by the commentators.

1298
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: Chiantech started walking in the chair, Rebarkina started walking to

1299
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: the chair, so it was a break to go five four,

1300
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: and Kadeer Noony gets out of the chair and runs

1301
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: over and goes, no, no, no, no. The serve was

1302
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: in at fifteen forty and so then they replayed the

1303
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: point and Rebarkina came back and won the game to

1304
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: go up five to four, and it was like, oh

1305
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: my god, An Eager goes, I didn't ask for you

1306
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: to get out of the chair. He's like, that's not

1307
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: my role. My role is not for you to tell

1308
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: me that.

1309
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: Was okay here there.

1310
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: This is sort of my bench Shelton critique actually kind

1311
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 4: of in a nutshell. Really yeah, he has incredibly big shots,

1312
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 4: he's incredibly athletic, he's fun, I love his self belief.

1313
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: And then he jumps back into the net or a

1314
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 4: fourhand eighteen feet.

1315
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: Well, well, I'm pretty sure he changed his mind on that.

1316
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: I think he wanted to go back inside out, but

1317
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: then he would know that Carlos En could get it

1318
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: easier to his backhand, right. So these are all the

1319
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: little mental things that you have to calculate in your

1320
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: brain in a millisecond, and he probably thought, if I

1321
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: go there, he's going to get to my back end easier.

1322
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: So he tried to go inside in, get it to

1323
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: the back end, and then Carlos would more likely go

1324
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: cross court and then the rally. So that's sort of

1325
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: like what happens there. And look, he's just back and

1326
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: back and back in, back and back in. He's like,

1327
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: if you can beat me with that shot, too good.

1328
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: Now let's see straight away back to the back end,

1329
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: and then he crushes that one. Nice. That right there

1330
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: is why Carlos carraz is so good. Right. And one

1331
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: of the critiques I will have on Carlos, and I

1332
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: have said this through the years, is that he is

1333
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: immature with his shot selection. Yeah, and sometimes maybe a

1334
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: year or two ago, he would have tried to go

1335
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: a little bit more to the forehand and sort of

1336
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: push that envelope a little bit and be like, come on,

1337
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: come on. And now he's like, you know what, I

1338
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: don't need to deal with that side. Be smart, play

1339
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: there and I will win. And that's a little bit

1340
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: more of the discipline that he's now possessing as a

1341
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: more mature guy. Yeah, and that it would just make

1342
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: him a better player. This is over now, all right.

1343
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: Well, first of Carlos, so I heard you imagine this

1344
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: match goes any other way than Carlos is any other

1345
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 4: last thoughts as we wrap this up.

1346
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: Now, I just want to say, by the way, that

1347
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: was like a really great lesson. I don't know. If

1348
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I could watch every match like this,

1349
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: you could just explain, Oh, he's going to the backhand.

1350
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's why he's going to the backhand. I would

1351
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: have just been watching. You know. I always say I'm

1352
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: the biggest casual fan because you know, I'm learning about

1353
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: the game as I'm watching it. I don't go into

1354
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty. I'm there for the storylines for the

1355
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: most part, But just watching that there with you, I

1356
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, makes sense, it makes sense. That's why

1357
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: he's doing that. That's what he's trying to do, is

1358
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: trying to break it down.

1359
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, which is also why it's important

1360
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: to have excellent play by play commentators.

1361
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it matters.

1362
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah and it matters.

1363
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1364
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

1365
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: Well, T and T give me a call. I'm available.

1366
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm in Brooklyn right now, but I'm available. In said

1367
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: I will go into a Liberty game at three o'clock

1368
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: this afternoon because you know I'm here. But anyway, all right, well,

1369
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us today.

1370
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: Everyone.

1371
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: This was really thank you for having Statia and she's

1372
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 4: you're gonna be here. We're putting this podcast out tomorrow,

1373
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 4: but you're gonna be here through the end.

1374
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna be through here here the whole time.

1375
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: The only time when not sure of yet is the

1376
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: Men's Final.

1377
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 3: We'll find a place to watch it.

1378
01:00:50,480 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. B