1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Joining US is Acting US Labor Secretary Julie Sue, Acting 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Labor Sector Serry Sue, thank you so much for your 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: time this morning. We've heard from the reports the Fed 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: would seem to be happy with this kind of jobs report. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: The market is certainly happy. It's this goldilocks potentially softening 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: to have a landing of this economy to a soft landing. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: What we're seeing right now with this softer report and 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: the market's certainly taking it and shried. Is that the 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: consensus as well in the read from the Biden administration, Yes, 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: that's exactly right. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: This is another strong job report, and these numbers just 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: keep showing us month after month that President Biden's economic 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: strategy is working. It's everything you said. It continues to 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: be strong, stable growth, sustainable growth as well. The unemployment 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: rate is still under four percent, that's the twenty seven 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: month straight that that is the case. And the prime 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: aged labor force participation rate remained strong. It ticked up 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, and for women it's the highest it 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: has been since this number has been recorded, which was 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: begun in nineteen forty eight. So this is a strong 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: jobs report that continues to be indicative of a very 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: strong economy. 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Well, this is what we heard from Chair Powell earlier 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: this week. Quote strong job creation over the past year 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: has been accompanied by an increase in the supply of workers, 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: reflecting increases in participation among individuals age twenty five to 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: fifty four years and the continued strong pace of immigration. 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: How much do you see immigration playing into the supply 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: side of this labor market. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: It's all part of the story. You know, immigrant workers 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: have throughout our nation's history helped to power our economic strength. 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: At the same time, what these numbers show is that 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the jobs for native born workers remains very, very strong 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: as well. So when you have such the stained job growth, 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: there is really you know, it's beneficial for everybody. 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: Well, we do have a lot of immigration. The CBO, 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: of course, looks at twenty twenty three when they thought 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: maybe it was going to be a million immigration actually 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: at three point three million. But how do you match 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: that supply to demand, especially if these are a lot 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: of undocumented workers, how do we match the supply of 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: potentially are they going to the right jobs and the 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: demand the US labor market actually needs. 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that the Department of Labor 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: is laser focused on every day is making sure that 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: we are connecting people to the good jobs that they 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: want and need, especially in this moment of such historic 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: job growth. Not happening just by accident. It's happening because 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: of the resilience of the American people, because of the 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: small business boom that we're seeing, because of working people. 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: You know, the President says all the time, it's the 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: middle class that built America. Unions built the middle class 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: because of strong growth for unions. And it's also happening 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: because we are seeing people coming into the late market. 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: And so this is a moment where we have to 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: be able to connect people to those jobs and employers 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: to the people that they need. And that's why our 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: workforce development system is so important, and why when I 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: travel the country and I see training programs that are 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: bursting at the seams, it's another indication that this economy 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: is moving in the right direction and that Bidenomics is 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: having a positive effect in communities all across America. 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: The survey response rate, though for this report, was fifty 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: four point nine percent, the lowest Julie since two thousand 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: and two. How accurate. Then are these numbers. 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Well, the Buer of Labor Statistics remains the gold standard 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: for reporting on unemployment, on job growth on different industries. 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: It is the largest body of data that exists. And 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: let me just say, you know, the numbers tell part 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: of the story. I mean, the numbers remain reliable. They 72 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: remain what is relied upon for to evaluate our policies 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: and also to look at what new pops we should 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: be pursuing. But the numbers are part of the story. 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: The other is that the President promised that he would 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: build an economy from the bottom up, in the middle 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: out and in the last under his leadership, we have 78 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: restored the forty hour work week for millions of Americans. 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: We are making sure that retirement security is something that 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: all you know, American people can enjoy. We are looking 81 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: out for workers who've been left behind in the past. 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: I've been in Uniontown, Pennsylvania talking to mine workers who've 83 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: had to be exposed to silica dust. I've met with 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: farm workers in California who put food on our tables, 85 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: but I have to die in vehicles that are cramped 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: without seat belts. We are also addressing those issues, and 87 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: so the overall numbers again are part of us story 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: in which President Biden is delivering on his promise to 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: build a strong economy in which everybody can see, can 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: play a part in it, and see themselves having a 91 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: secure future. 92 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: But back to this survey, that would put the standard 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: eerraror at one hundred and thirty thousand, so it could 94 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: be three one hundred and five thousand, or forty five thousand, 95 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: anywhere in that range is statistically accurate. How concerning is 96 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: that given this data is highly important not just to 97 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: the FED but also to the President. 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: No, that's right. I mean we of course we believe 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the numbers are reliable. We continue to work on a 100 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: survey response. You know, the people sometimes think, well, you know, 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: the numbers get adjusted each month. What is that about. 102 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: That's also very much part of what we what we do. 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: It's what you know, it's it's it's part and parcel 104 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: of the of making the numbers as accurate as possible. 105 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: So sometimes numbers come in later, and that's why we 106 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: make adjustments. And again, you know, this is this is 107 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: the gold standard for a reason, and we do want 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: to continue to increase the response rate that we get. 109 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: I just want to enter in the fact that wayne gains, 110 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: wage gains are less than what was expected. And when 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: we continuously poll the American electorate, they're not worried about 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: jobs so much in the sense that they're actually worried 113 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: about inflation. If the wages are not keeping up with inflation, 114 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: how concerning is that to you. 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: So wage gains continue to outpace inflation, that means that 116 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: there's more money in workers pockets. This is obviously as 117 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: you you know, you say, this is a sign of 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: how good people feel, and a good job changes lives, 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: and a good jobs with wages that are enough to 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: sustain a family are really important. And we continue to 121 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: combat inflation and high prices. That's why the present is 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: so focused on combating junk fees, on on you know, 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: making sure that prescription drugs are affordable. And so there's 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: a there's it's a it's a whole holistic approach to 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: investing in the American people. And we are on the 126 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: right track and will continue with the work. 127 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: Julie Sue, thank you so much for your time this morning, 128 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: Acting US Labor Secretary. Of course, Julie Sue