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Speaker 1: the team EC. Today we talk about winning teams, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about a lot of good players, you know, very

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Speaker 1: very talented players. Um. Thinking back to the seventies, the eighties, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got a number of great players from all those years.

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Speaker 1: You've got some great players on this team that are

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Speaker 1: going to be, you know, let's say, already amongst the

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Speaker 1: top at their position in the league. Now. Some of

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Speaker 1: very and then there are other guys who are you know,

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Speaker 1: more veteran players that you know, I've had great careers too,

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Speaker 1: as like Witton and Sean Lee, guys like that that

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Speaker 1: you know, played played good football for the Cowboys for

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Speaker 1: for a long time. So they're well balanced team. But

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Speaker 1: they're they're very talented team. Um. They play well under

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Speaker 1: pressure and they're very well coached as they were with

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Speaker 1: coach Landry, coach Johnson Jason. A good situational team. They

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Speaker 1: and make you work for everything, make your earn everything.

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Speaker 1: I don't like I don't think there's any team in

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Speaker 1: illeague it said, if you were line of scrimmage penalties,

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Speaker 1: then the Cowboys have offensively, they don't fall start, they

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Speaker 1: don't have illegal formations, they don't have illegal shifts, they

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Speaker 1: don't they don't do any of that. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the mark of a well coached, well disciplined,

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Speaker 1: will maybe help you out defensively with you know, some

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Speaker 1: not gonna get that from Dallas. They're not gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: They just don't do it. So well coached, well discipline,

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Speaker 1: organization for quite a while and now with Howard responsible continued, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nick's got such a great He has a vast amount

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Speaker 1: So depending on what our needs are, and that could

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Speaker 1: probably more season to season that he can do so

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Speaker 1: And so we've always done that, we've continued to do it.

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Speaker 1: He's coach multiple positions, had multiple responsibilities in the personnel department,

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Speaker 1: continues to have a strong role in in both areas

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's maybe a little more or a little

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Speaker 1: full plate. Sometimes it gets divided differently, but um, it's

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Speaker 1: But you know, he does a great job in all

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Speaker 1: UM And again, when things pop up that that need

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Speaker 1: that maybe allows you to shuffle some things in other areas,

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Speaker 1: so always rule change this season in particular, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: but it's it's different this year. Um, It's been different

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Speaker 1: from year to year, you know, And that's not a

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Speaker 1: good or bad things. Sometimes our needs and our points

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Speaker 1: emphasis change and our staff structure changes. So as those

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Speaker 1: and has a great deal of experience, you know, across

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Speaker 1: the board. So he can pretty much do anything, but

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Speaker 1: not do everything. So we have to pick out the

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Speaker 1: things that have the biggest impacts personturiseholding, if you would

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Speaker 1: just indulge one more other than a football what's your

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Speaker 1: favorite Thanksgiving side dish? Yeah? I mean pretty much everything.

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Speaker 1: There's not much food that I don't like, so could

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Speaker 1: we started with dessert? I gotta leave room for everything else.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's great, that's great holiday. It's great holiday.

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Speaker 1: Football family in football, I mean football family, and food,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, sign me up. Um okay, great, thank you,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll see you Sunday. A couple of changes

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Speaker 1: with the coaches being a me