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Speaker 1: I am six forty.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand

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Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. We are now releasing not just murderers,

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Speaker 2: but double murderers. We are releasing, in this case, double

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Speaker 2: murderers who were originally sentenced to life without parole, actually

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Speaker 2: two life sentences without parole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a group of four.

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Speaker 3: One of them's name is Jeffrey Allen Maria. That's the

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Speaker 3: person we're going to talk about because he's been released.

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Speaker 3: His co murderers were Ronald Anderson and Darren Lee and

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Speaker 3: Marty Spears, and they ambush, tortured, raped, and brutally killed

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Speaker 3: a couple by the name of Philip and Kathy Ranzo

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Speaker 3: at their home in Modesto decades ago. And we are

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Speaker 3: now at the point where as John just said, we

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Speaker 3: are releasing murderers, even if they do get life sentences

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Speaker 3: without parole. They got re sentenced in the eighties for

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Speaker 3: two consecutive life sentences with the possibility of parole, And

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Speaker 3: of course it's very fashionable now in California to say, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, they were teenagers.

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Speaker 2: How do you get two consecutive sentences with even if

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Speaker 2: you have parole After you've been paroled from the first

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Speaker 2: sex first sentence, you have to do the second one.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can talk to the special prosecutor who's going

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Speaker 3: to join us now. Beth DeJong has been working with

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Speaker 3: the family of this couple, the Ramzos, for decades now

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Speaker 3: to try to keep all four of these killers in prison.

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Speaker 3: But now we do have one that's been released. Because

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Speaker 3: it's a new day in California, murderers too shall go free.

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Speaker 2: Beth, welcome to the show. Thank you for coming out.

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Speaker 2: What kind of special prosecutor are you?

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Speaker 4: Well, actually, I was a prosecutor for twenty five years

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Speaker 4: and then I went to County Council office and then

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Speaker 4: return part time, so I'm actually doing special assignments with

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Speaker 4: the DA's office.

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Speaker 2: I think first thing is we ought to lay out

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Speaker 2: the crime. What did these four do? And Jeffrey and

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Speaker 2: Maria specifically since he's the first one out.

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Speaker 4: Sure June nineteen seventy nine, these four crime partners had

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Speaker 4: done a sort of a dress rehearsal the night before

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Speaker 4: and did a home invasion robbery on another individual in

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Speaker 4: a home, brutally hogtieing and hitting one of the home

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Speaker 4: the homeowner over the head with a gun. Jeffrey Maria,

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Speaker 4: who was one of those crime partners, did not attend

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Speaker 4: update from its crime partners. The next day. They then

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Speaker 4: planned an ambush on the Ranzo family where they faked

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Speaker 4: or feigned running out of gas, and they approached the

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Speaker 4: they had a ten year old son. Mark knocked on

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Speaker 4: to get some help because they ran out of gas.

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Speaker 4: Mister Ranzo said their phone wasn't working because they were

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Speaker 4: having difficulty in that new development that day, so he

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Speaker 4: actually retreated mister Ransoh to the garage, got a gas

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Speaker 4: can for these individuals, and when he was giving him

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Speaker 4: overtook him with guns, held him at gunpoint, took him

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Speaker 4: ten year old was playing baseball with that day earlier

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Speaker 4: in the day, Hog tied him, pick axed his eyes.

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Speaker 4: Then three other the two of the other crime partners,

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Speaker 4: Darren Lee went into the house and then found missus

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Speaker 4: also pick axing her eyes and killing her there, and

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Speaker 4: They robbed the house, they ran out to the lookout.

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Speaker 4: Ronald Anderson Jeffrey Maria says he never went inside. However,

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Speaker 4: it's inconsistent with statements that he made to his friends

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Speaker 4: that's that's what happened. And they were how old ranging

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Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen? Yeah, Jeffrey Maria was seventeen, And in California

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Speaker 4: he is considered a youthful offender because he did it

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Speaker 3: Now, what happened in the nineteen eighties that they got

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Speaker 3: re sentenced to these two consecutive life sentences with the

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Speaker 4: Right, that was a Rosebird decision. If you know anything

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Speaker 4: about California politics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was the justice who got recalled.

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Speaker 4: Yes, nice. So yeah. So, as we've gone through from

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Speaker 4: nineteen seventy nine to the present, we have of course

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Speaker 4: weren't working. But releasing murderers such as these is definitely

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Speaker 4: not the answer. California has really lost it since.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I didn't understand I mentioned at the

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Speaker 2: beginning is how do you get two consecutive life sentences

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Speaker 2: with possibility of parole? If he got paroled, how did

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Speaker 2: he Why is he not serving a second consecutive life sentence.

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Speaker 4: Exactly. It's nonsense. It's not common sense. It's not how

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Speaker 4: it's applied. It should be phrased as concurrent right, because.

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Speaker 1: Right means yeah at the same time.

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Speaker 4: Right, But no, because he was a youthful offender, and

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Speaker 4: because he's now eligible for elder parole because he's over sixty.

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Speaker 4: At the court or the par board found that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you said the Raanzos had a ten year old

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Speaker 4: With a Oh, actually they were all home, including so

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Speaker 4: mister and missus Ramda and Mark were home, along with

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Speaker 4: Mark's cousin Mike, and Grandma who lived down the street,

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Speaker 4: was over too, and then Mark and Mike decided to

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Speaker 4: two children actually testified at the hearings because they could

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Speaker 4: identify this vehicle that they were driving in the four

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Speaker 4: crime partners, because it was making a lot of noise

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Speaker 4: and repeatedly going around the street sort of staking the joint.

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Speaker 2: I don't imagine anything more horrible for a child to witness, right,

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Speaker 2: But luckily worse stories you continue.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, luckily they didn't, you know, they weren't eyewitnesses to

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Speaker 4: the murder. But at hearings all crime partners have said

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Speaker 4: if ten year old Mark was present at the home

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Speaker 4: or Mike, the cousin, they would have been dead too.

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Speaker 3: So now he's been denied parole before, but this time

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Speaker 3: I guess knew some past, huh.

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Speaker 4: Right, Actually, in twenty fifteen, seventeen and eighteen he was

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Speaker 4: granted parole, and I fought and appeared at the capitol

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Speaker 4: steps and had press releases and actually emailed on the

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Speaker 4: daily to the governor then Jerry Brown, and Jerry Brown

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Speaker 4: reversed it each time. This time Governor knew them failed us.

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Speaker 4: And in fact, the news channel that covered it the

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Speaker 4: Channel thirteen Uppears in Sacramento sort of had their headline

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Speaker 4: saying the governor would not reverse it, refused to reverse

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Speaker 1: But it's truthful, it's truthful.

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Speaker 4: They just don't want bad press, but it's absolutely truthful.

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Speaker 2: Well, he did he did block the Yes, he did

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Speaker 2: allow the parole to take place.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, he did not reverse it or to do it right.

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Speaker 4: He had the power to do it, and he failed

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Speaker 4: to do it. And you know it's elections are brewing.

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Speaker 1: That's just disgusting. It's just a whole thing from beginning

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Speaker 3: So I take it that the Ranzoh family that you're

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Speaker 3: still representing are just devastated by this.

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Speaker 4: Huh, Right, And you know what, we have three other

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Speaker 4: crime partners we need to worry about. And you know,

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Speaker 4: the number one monster, like I mentioned before, was Marty

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Speaker 4: spears and the day that he gets a parole date,

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Speaker 4: you know, we'll be back at the capitol. But I'm

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Speaker 4: sure that's coming, now, Sure that's coming.

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Speaker 2: This news was sprung on the Ranzoh family with very

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Speaker 2: short notice. They got a call on Tuesday, August twenty

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Speaker 2: ninth that Maria would be released on September fourth.

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Speaker 4: Right. Well, actually we attended the InBank hearing the week

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Speaker 4: before and the decision was made that day. Was released

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Speaker 4: online about three to four hours after the hearing, and

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Speaker 4: the in bank hearing is more or less all the

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Speaker 4: commissioners that handle the parole hearings, and they made a

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Speaker 4: group decision. That's all that Newsom did was defer it

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Speaker 4: to that group.

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Speaker 2: You know, violent cycle paths, their brains never change.

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Speaker 3: Pickaxe in the eyes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was brutal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is as ugly as the

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Speaker 2: Manson killings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, I handled homicide trials and homicide cases

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Speaker 4: for years, and I appeared at many of these lifer

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Speaker 4: hearings on cases that I didn't handle at trial, and

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Speaker 4: none of them matched the level of heinousness, the level

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Speaker 3: Well, Beth, thanks for coming on. Appreciate your hard work.

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Speaker 3: Sorry that it failed with the first of these four killers,

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Speaker 3: but hopefully you'll have more success keeping the other theory

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Speaker 2: And let us know if the other three come up

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Speaker 2: for an immediate parole.

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Speaker 4: Okay, great, and then maybe we can have a little

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Speaker 4: more press time. Thank you, Yeah, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Sure. That's Special Prosecutor Beth DeJong, who has been fighting

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Speaker 3: a alongside the Ranzoh family. Is their name from Modesto.

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Speaker 3: Philip and Kathy Ranzo were murdered in nineteen seventy nine

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Speaker 3: by a gang of four like seventeen year olds, and

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Speaker 3: the first of those four has been released, Jeffrey Allen

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Speaker 3: Maria was released back on September fourth, after a year's

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Speaker 3: long parole battle. But you see the details of this story.

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Speaker 3: They don't belong free ever.

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Speaker 2: Newsom is a psychotic fraud?

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Speaker 1: Could he? How could he let this guy out.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say yes to his release. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to say no. I'm just going to stand aside.

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Speaker 2: Well he's saying yes. There is no standing side. It's

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Speaker 2: either yes or no. Either the guy's free or he's

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Speaker 2: still in prison. If he's free, Newsom said yes. Newsom's

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Speaker 2: got a wife and four kids. Well, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand this psychotic thinking, and it's their only

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Speaker 2: purpose is to empty prisons. This nonsense about a kid's

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Speaker 2: brain not being fully formed till twenty six, Well, of

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Speaker 2: course that's true, that's true for all of us, but

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Speaker 2: an extremely tiny fraction act psychotically. A psychotic brain is

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Speaker 2: constructed differently. It's not because it's a young brain. It's

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Speaker 2: because it's a psychotic brain. Otherwise we would have all

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Speaker 2: been running around killing people when we were seventeen, and

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Speaker 2: we're not all running around doing it. And if this

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Speaker 2: guy had made it to twenty six and was still free,

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Speaker 2: he would have psychotically murdered somebody at twenty six. It's

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Speaker 2: the structure of the brain, not the age of the brain.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're just talking about Newsom who's decided to allow

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Speaker 3: a murderer to be paroled, a brutal murder.

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Speaker 1: I mean, pick access to the eyes, Yeah, pick axes.

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Speaker 3: I don't care you're seventeen. That's evil. That is somebody

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Speaker 3: that should never be free.

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Speaker 2: When I was first going, can you imagine the kind

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Speaker 2: of animalistic, psychotic violence. And there's four of them, and

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Speaker 2: they had a rehearsal the night before and attacked other people.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just astonished. And Newsom does he read these cases,

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Speaker 2: does he look at them? And he's sitting there with

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Speaker 2: No, you know, it's not a judge's business what parents

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Speaker 2: That's not judge's business. You can't force me to say

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Speaker 2: And there's this is not settled sign by any means.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Because I know that thirty eight percent

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Speaker 1: And everybody's going to stand up and say no, no. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm kind of I'm not really I mean,

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Speaker 2: Because you know life is just life, right, humans are humans?

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Speaker 3: So the actors are next, you know, their deal is

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Speaker 2: I was like, when when people say everything's just a remake,

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Speaker 2: What's your idea? What's your big movie idea?

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Speaker 2: A lot of it's the same. And you know this,

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Speaker 2: So he has the plot points, and all the movies

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it only got a three point four rating

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Speaker 3: go there, Go there, but you're going to be probably underwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: It's so dirty. I mean it is grimy.

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Speaker 2: Go yeah, the actual act stars. It's packed, it's grimy.

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Speaker 2: There are so many weirdos, you know, there's those those

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Speaker 2: those pedophiles wearing those those strange costumes. Not to mention

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Speaker 2: the drug addicts, the mental patients, the homeless. Just it

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Speaker 2: is such a frightening environment. I can't think of anything

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Speaker 2: less I'd rather do than walk down the Hollywood Walk

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Speaker 2: of Fame. I can't think of a place that is

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Speaker 2: more disgusting as a tourist destination. And it didn't used

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Speaker 2: to be that way. It wasn't that way when I

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Speaker 2: when I moved here. But I'm thinking, what kind of

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Speaker 2: city with this one of a kind internationally famous tourist stop.

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Speaker 1: Lets it go?

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Speaker 2: Let's the whole place rot and become like the third

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Speaker 2: Circle of Hell.

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Speaker 1: Who would do that?

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Speaker 2: How does Karen Bass And who's the jackass? Who's the

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Speaker 2: councilman for that?

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Speaker 1: District. How do you let this happen?

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Speaker 3: And then everybody give it a makeover like ten years ago,

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Speaker 3: to try to spruce it up a bit. But it's

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Speaker 3: still too many homeless people. It's too grimy.

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Speaker 1: They don't nobody cares. Nobody in the saw sortment.

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Speaker 3: Vendors, you know, the hot dog people are everywhere, and

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Speaker 3: then the idiot's selling their stupid little wares.

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Speaker 2: And it's beneath Third World. I'd say third world, but

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Speaker 2: I don't want to insult third one world because in

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Speaker 2: the third World that you know, everybody's really poor and

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Speaker 2: so they have a difficult time. But you know, Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles should be able to do better than this. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's a it's an international laughing stock. This isn't the

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Speaker 2: Daily Mail. This is an international organization that that that,

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Speaker 2: and it's widespread.

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Speaker 1: They looked at Google.

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Speaker 2: Reviews and and TikTok reviews and and the stuff that

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Speaker 2: the whole world can access and and and it's unanimous

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Speaker 2: most disgusting tourist destination on the planet. Jesus, Karen Bass

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Speaker 2: good work. Should be proud of yourself.

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Speaker 3: This is a list of the fifteen hotspots around the

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Speaker 3: world that were the least satisfactory to tourists. And even

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Speaker 3: the Disney's Magic Kingdom was in there making the list

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Speaker 3: of the worst.

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Speaker 2: They've read so much negative about the Disney. Uh, the

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Speaker 2: Disney theme parks, like even the one in in Orlando. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and and somehow in all the commotion of the last

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Speaker 2: few years, they've let the maintenance of the theme parks

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Speaker 2: go to hell. That seems to be the consensus from

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Speaker 2: a lot of people have visited. It's all over online

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Speaker 2: in news stories, and I wonder what's the upside in

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Speaker 2: doing that.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to San Diego County Supervisor Jim

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Speaker 3: Desmond after the news at three o'clock. He wants them

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Speaker 3: to declare a humanitarian crisis over migration in the county.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out why.

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Speaker 1: That's here.

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Speaker 2: A lot about Texas and Arizona that's going on with

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Speaker 2: San Diego. They're getting big crowds in San Diego now.

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Speaker 3: And also a big decision by the old SANDAG. The

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Speaker 3: San Diego Association of Governments has announced that for now

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Speaker 3: they're giving up on the milk of the vehicle miles

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Speaker 3: travel tax. How about that they're shelving it indefinitely huge

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Speaker 3: win for the people there. Well, the the communist that

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Speaker 3: ran that organization, Hassana Crada, is leaving and he's taking

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Speaker 3: his communist Soviet Union ideas with him. Is he going

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Speaker 3: to latch onto another government association somewhere?

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Speaker 1: Do we know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but he should going back to a putin.

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Speaker 2: He should come with a warning label. He's a destructive

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Speaker 2: communist who wants to destroy American civilization. He's just like

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Speaker 2: one of the worst bureaucrats I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Hassan, why don't you go fight in Ukraine? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: go ahead, that's a good idea. Go charge the Ukrainians

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Speaker 5: of mileage tacks. See what they do.

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Speaker 3: Story speaking to cars that I saw for the weekend,

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Speaker 3: they got my attention. It sort of brings all the

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Speaker 3: worlds together in a perfect way for the people who

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Speaker 3: believe that you should be traveling everywhere on a bicycle

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Speaker 3: or walking or getting on the bus. It's the idea

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Speaker 3: to get rid of the Marina Freeway and turn it

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Speaker 3: into housing. If you're not familiar, the Marina Freeway is

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Speaker 3: very small. They wanted to build a freeway that was

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Speaker 3: going to connect the Pacific Ocean to northern Orange County,

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Speaker 3: so we're talking about the area of Marina del Rey.

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Speaker 3: The countrance did built a three mile stretch of the

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Speaker 3: ninety freeway which just goes from the four or five

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Speaker 3: to the edge of Marina del Rey. John years ago

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Speaker 3: when we did the road diet right, and we're over

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Speaker 3: there in Vista del Mar remember that in Culver Boulevard,

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Speaker 3: and you can take Culver Boulevard and eventually end up

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Speaker 3: you take a right turn, you're on the ninety freeway

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Speaker 3: and it goes right to the four or five and

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Speaker 3: it's all but three miles. I take the ninety freeway

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Speaker 3: all the time because we're in Marina del Rie for

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Speaker 3: bike riding and voting. Well, if the bicycle people, the

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Speaker 3: community activists have their way, it's gonna be torn up

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Speaker 3: and turned into homes and parks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, affordable housing, which is scams for politicians, contractor friends.

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Speaker 1: So it's got you for the years.

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Speaker 3: Michael Schneider, chief executive, the founder of Streets for All,

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Speaker 3: this is one of these bicycle lavilla nuts.

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Speaker 1: Chief executive. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: These bicycle advocates get government grant money. Our tax money

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Speaker 2: goes to these bicycle advocates who use it to add

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Speaker 2: you hate to tear down freeways. These guys are ridiculously evil.

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Speaker 2: They what was the word I saw the other day?

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Speaker 2: Because all these groups have a word for this, and

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Speaker 2: it's I got to look it up and it actually well,

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Speaker 2: in other words, it's about going backwards, it's about it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not like.

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Speaker 1: Where did I read it today? Anyway, it's a word.

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Speaker 2: In other words, if they're successful, we will live like

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Speaker 2: we did one hundred years ago. It's reversing modern life,

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Speaker 2: and part of that is destroying freeways, getting people to

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Speaker 2: stop driving fossil fuel powered cars so the government can

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Speaker 2: control the electric supply, how much we charge the car,

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Speaker 2: which will control how much we can drive, where we

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Speaker 2: can drive it. If you start tearing down freeways, it'll

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Speaker 2: make it more difficult. There's there's an entire movement, and

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Speaker 2: there's many tentacles, and in order to get.

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Speaker 3: Times calls it reimagining, reimagine public streets and highways so

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Speaker 3: we could have more pedestrian friendly thoroughfares and events that

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Speaker 3: promote more walking and less driving. This could be the

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Speaker 3: goldilocks of converting freeways to green space, said Paul Haddad,

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Speaker 3: author of freeway Topia. How freeway shape Los Angeles. This

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Speaker 3: could be the sweet spot. What we're talking about is

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty acres which could be turned into

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Speaker 3: four thousand residential units in some public parks. That's what

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Speaker 3: they want.

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Speaker 1: It's a freeway. It's the reverse civilization, is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Even the story of the time says nobody's clear what

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Speaker 3: effect it would have on traffic if they took that

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Speaker 3: freeway out.

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Speaker 2: They don't want traffic. Their Their ultimate goal is to

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Speaker 2: get rid.

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Speaker 1: Of all the cars.

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Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating, I'm not being hot, but that wouldn't

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Speaker 2: happen if they tore out the freeway. People would still

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Speaker 2: have to come and go from that area, get the

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Speaker 2: jobs in places, and they're not going to get on

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Speaker 2: a bike. It's step one their idea. I was reading

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Speaker 2: about this too, is the fifteen minute city heard where

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Speaker 2: you could walk or bike to everything you need to

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Speaker 2: buy to do your job, your story in fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: It would eliminate the need for all cars. And one

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Speaker 2: of the ways to hasten it is, first of all,

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Speaker 2: is to make it difficult to power your car. Right,

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Speaker 2: so by banning fossil fuel cars and insisting on electric cars,

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Speaker 2: even though there are hardly any charging stations, and we

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Speaker 2: don't have an electrical grid to support it. What's going

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Speaker 2: to happen. People are going to turn to bicycles and

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Speaker 2: start walking around. So they're going to demand that the

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Speaker 2: cities be compressed into these fifteen minute cities that you

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Speaker 2: can you can shop and work and live.

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Speaker 3: Eventually, when you go through the story, this group called

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Speaker 3: Streets for All this, Michael Schneider, what do you know?

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Speaker 3: They're going to apply for a federal grid and to

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Speaker 3: pursue the Marina Freeway product. There is the money, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and give us some money. We're going to explore turning

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Speaker 3: it into a party.

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Speaker 2: And they enrich themselves and it's like a religious cult.

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Speaker 2: You can't talk to them. They're completely unreasonable, completely irrational,

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Speaker 2: but they want. What they're doing is they have turned

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Speaker 2: They're using climate change as a as something to whip

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Speaker 2: people up emotionally, to frighten them, to bully them, to

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Speaker 2: intimidate them that they have to agree what you want

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Speaker 2: to die, you want to kill the planet, just like

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Speaker 2: they did with COVID.

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Speaker 1: You have to take the vaccine. What you want to

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Speaker 1: kill people.

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Speaker 2: It's all about shaming people and coercing you into living

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Speaker 2: the way they want you to live.

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Speaker 1: It's really dangerous.

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