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Speaker 1: it do Yo? This is the Fantasy Best Friends Forever
Speaker 1: here on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network, alongside Frankie stamp Well.
Speaker 1: I am Greg Sauceman Gregg. What's going on on the
Speaker 1: pretty long weekend? Fun times? As long as an interesting
Speaker 1: dude there? Yet? I was your I woke up. I
Speaker 1: think I'm sick, but like I don't it might just
Speaker 1: be like sick. I don't know. I think I might
Speaker 1: be super dehydrated. To be honest with you, I think
Speaker 1: that's what it is. We're not drinking yesterday, No Saturday.
Speaker 1: Was that drinking they'll dehydrated from Saturday. Dude. I was
Speaker 1: a mess yesterday Mornday. I was hung over for quite
Speaker 1: a while. Um, and then I thought I was through it,
Speaker 1: and then I woke up this morning, Ale, I am,
Speaker 1: I am not in a good place, and I like
Speaker 1: me Saturday more. Yes, that's exactly what it was. And
Speaker 1: of course Judy is running around like she's always one
Speaker 1: that sleeps late and gets hungover, and she's like running
Speaker 1: around the apartment. I'm sitting there like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what is happening life? It was not gonna have a
Speaker 1: playoff kickball game tonight, Final four. Monday's Monday kickball Monday Thursday.
Speaker 1: This week if we make it Thursday. Yeah, Well, our
Speaker 1: number two hitters out with an injury. He heard his
Speaker 1: knee last week. Number two hitter, kick kicker. He's hurt,
Speaker 1: so he's not gonna play, which is a little scary,
Speaker 1: but we'll see what we can do. You know the
Speaker 1: guy who the guy who backs you up. Yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's it's my guy. It's come big. Jets fan watched
Speaker 1: the show good job. Yeah, Saturday was a crazy day. Um,
Speaker 1: we had a draft. Frank of course showed a late,
Speaker 1: as he does every year every g s T draft
Speaker 1: that we have. I think it was there for the
Speaker 1: first selection. You were there for our first selection and
Speaker 1: not the first selection of the draft, even though it
Speaker 1: starts supposed to start at eleven. Drank out there closer
Speaker 1: to twelve eleven thirty. I took an uberpool. Man. You
Speaker 1: can't control those things, you can't, um, and then I
Speaker 1: had to leave early so I had more important business
Speaker 1: to tend to. What kind of business, Greig? I am
Speaker 1: also now engaged, yes, and that's why we were on
Speaker 1: drinking on Saturday night at one point. At one point
Speaker 1: everybody in the control room today, I was engaged. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm married, doesn't have a girlfriend that's single? Engaged? So
Speaker 1: how has that change your life? I wasn't. How did
Speaker 1: everything go? Everything went great? It went really really great.
Speaker 1: Our buddy Steve was gonna be here a little bit.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. With the pictures, he just said them
Speaker 1: gonna be this morning, so I was able to take
Speaker 1: a look at them. Sweet. He was awesome with them. Um.
Speaker 1: She walked in and we had the front of a
Speaker 1: restaurant decorated, and she walked right past the decorations and
Speaker 1: then I popped out and I was supposed to be
Speaker 1: at a draft which just was it just left early, um,
Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: Like turn around, turn around to the direction the decorations.
Speaker 1: She's like, I knew it, and I'm like did you though,
Speaker 1: Like your nails aren't done, you have no idea? And uh,
Speaker 1: we got the proposal and then she was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is happening to me. This is me.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, the best part is the whole story.
Speaker 1: She'll kill me for saying this if I'm going to.
Speaker 1: So I get down on one knee and I say
Speaker 1: some things. She later told me she expected a little
Speaker 1: bit more out of the out of the speech. On
Speaker 1: the knee, I told I was like, listen, I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't even think right now. I wasn't writing a
Speaker 1: whole paragraph here or a poem right exactly. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of lines, um, And then before
Speaker 1: you get off with knee, she grabs up the ring,
Speaker 1: the box of the ring out of my hand, takes
Speaker 1: the ring and puts it on her finger herself, and
Speaker 1: then proceeds to put it instead of putting on her
Speaker 1: ring finger up on her index finger, and she was,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, like, what are you doing.
Speaker 1: I go it's on the wrong finger and she she's
Speaker 1: literally shaking, and she's just like, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: not used to this. And and and about an hour later,
Speaker 1: we're eating and she's like, did I ever say yes?
Speaker 1: Like no, but it's cool. Um, at least you said
Speaker 1: some things. I mean when I did know, I was
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, you know, we were talking to our friends.
Speaker 1: We were talking to our friends um later that night,
Speaker 1: and he was like, at least you were better than that.
Speaker 1: He was. He got on one knee and he just
Speaker 1: he couldn't speak. He was just like, ah, I was
Speaker 1: like a robot, like a robot. Robot. I wasn't a robot,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like as calculated as I normally am,
Speaker 1: or was like like moving my hands as normal. I
Speaker 1: was just in the zone, you know, beforehand to the nerves.
Speaker 1: I was offered quite a few, and I just wanted
Speaker 1: to be like totally sober for it. Not that one
Speaker 1: shots can do anything. But the problem was we had
Speaker 1: a bottle champagne there at the restaurant. Went back to
Speaker 1: our apartment where our families were waiting. Uh, had quite
Speaker 1: a bit more champagne at that point, and then went
Speaker 1: to the bar and like took quite have been a
Speaker 1: few shots and drinks and beard and it was just
Speaker 1: like a whole mixture. And that was why I was
Speaker 1: like disaster. And then of course the second bar then
Speaker 1: plays the brutal Morris song Marry You, and everyone went crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, um. And then I drafted them in
Speaker 1: the morning and noon and spinning carton draft morning as
Speaker 1: it was a wild, wild weekend. How was your weekend, Frank, Uh,
Speaker 1: not nearly as eventful as that. Um. Friday was a
Speaker 1: good time. And then Saturday I had to drafts. Sunday
Speaker 1: I also had two drafts, and little did I know,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Kirk Cousins fan. I ended up with
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and I think four out of five drafts
Speaker 1: I've done since Thursday, it just seems like he just
Speaker 1: keeps ending up being the guy that's available when I
Speaker 1: want to take a quarterback, and it seems like he
Speaker 1: could take the the elite, elite level jumper. I think
Speaker 1: because I wasn't in the room on Sunday, I didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily realize who you were you had and like, I
Speaker 1: was shocking you didn't the best tight on the board
Speaker 1: where Glenny Walker and Trey Burtons, Like Frank's clearly in
Speaker 1: to date Trey Burton to make sure he gets them
Speaker 1: that I did, and I texted you was like, how
Speaker 1: did you take him? Was like, dude, I have zach
Speaker 1: ERT's Like, oh, okay, that Gert's too, another guy who
Speaker 1: was just randomly going on the fifth round now everywhere
Speaker 1: every year. I don't really know why. Yeah, um, we
Speaker 1: had a Gronk and Eleague. We didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1: I ended up with Gronk in two drafts that I've
Speaker 1: done since the Thursday night was the beat Frank Standfeld
Speaker 1: draft and then over the weekend Saturday GST. We end
Speaker 1: up with Gronk again in the middle of the third round. Again,
Speaker 1: you're getting a when healthy borderline first round talent. It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of how healthy is he going to be,
Speaker 1: But you baked that into where he's being drafted. He's
Speaker 1: going in the middle of the third round. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty good value. It's great listen, it's great value. And
Speaker 1: I saw people actually on Twitter talking about it as well.
Speaker 1: I think it was having Silva that was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not the ground guy. Might have been Pianowski, Okay,
Speaker 1: because I'm not the grunk guy, but when he's there
Speaker 1: in the middle of the third round, you gotta pull it.
Speaker 1: And oh because I sent the text to you guys,
Speaker 1: because Pianowski started his draft Kareem Haunt, Keenan Allen and
Speaker 1: then Rob Gronkowski, and I was like, and when we
Speaker 1: were in this draft, we had six pick, seventh pick,
Speaker 1: and at that point, Antonio Brown was falling right and
Speaker 1: seeing all the running backs go and it's very interesting
Speaker 1: watching and this is now the second consecutive draft, but
Speaker 1: we just saw all the running backs just get pushed up,
Speaker 1: even ahead of Antonio Brown and DeAndre Hopkins. Um, we
Speaker 1: see you get pushed up. And I was like, we
Speaker 1: should take Kreem Hunt. And it is a three man team.
Speaker 1: And at that point, both Florio and Franker Lake Antonio
Speaker 1: browns the move and we wound up taking Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: And in the second round, I really wanted Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: um compair with Cream Hunt. Now, Cream Keenan Allen was there,
Speaker 1: but at that point I did not want to take
Speaker 1: a chance on Alex Collins being my number one running
Speaker 1: back as Frank pushed heavily, and at that point Frank
Speaker 1: got outvoted and we took Davante Freeman with our second
Speaker 1: bit pick. Then the third round, we were just like
Speaker 1: which running back to we want? Which wide receiver do
Speaker 1: we want? Because we would could went in every direction,
Speaker 1: and we were about to I think, probably pulling the
Speaker 1: trigger at Alex Collins. I guess um, and then I
Speaker 1: just look at the board. I'm like, holy crap, we're
Speaker 1: at three seven and Gronk is still there. And Frank
Speaker 1: and I basically looked at each other and we knew it,
Speaker 1: like as soon as I said it, and frankly got
Speaker 1: the board, He's just like, we have to pull this.
Speaker 1: Like I don't want Gronk because I can draft, but
Speaker 1: the value is just too good. We gotta do it.
Speaker 1: So my biggest takeaway, as he mentioned zach Ertz and
Speaker 1: I mentioned Gronk, the tight ends, much like the receivers,
Speaker 1: they're all falling, they're all following. His running backs continue
Speaker 1: to get pushed up the draft. Whether it's a Royce Freeman,
Speaker 1: whether it's Jamal Williams, everybody's getting pushed up drafts. Right now,
Speaker 1: and the tight ends are now falling. Gronk in the
Speaker 1: middle of the third round is incredible value. I think
Speaker 1: Earth's in the fifth is great value. Kelsey and the fourth.
Speaker 1: It all makes sense to me. Um, that's kind of
Speaker 1: how our early part of the draft went. Frankie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So basically, when we took Davante Freeman in the second round, reminder,
Speaker 1: this is a full point PPR league. I was telling
Speaker 1: these guys, let's say Keenan Allen and receiver. At that point,
Speaker 1: I think, look, you started Antonio Brown, Keenan Allen, You're
Speaker 1: gonna get two plus receptions out of those two guys. Um,
Speaker 1: So I think if we did that, we probably don't
Speaker 1: take Gronk in the third. We probably come back and
Speaker 1: take Alex Collins, will make sure that we locked down
Speaker 1: r RB one in the middle of the third round.
Speaker 1: But seeing the way things turned out ultimately, I don't
Speaker 1: really mind what we did. I'm again, I'm not a
Speaker 1: big DeVonta Freeman guy. I feel like I've been pushing
Speaker 1: him down a little bit. I'm worried about not a
Speaker 1: little bit you were. I want to make this very clear,
Speaker 1: and I could have him ranked very highly like a
Speaker 1: high n RB two, so which is what we're RB one.
Speaker 1: But Frank was so angry. Remember we talked about like
Speaker 1: angry Frank, and he comes in here and he's just
Speaker 1: like really mad. He's just like really really mad and
Speaker 1: full around. I'm joke and makes him angrier when we
Speaker 1: joke about that. And there's just certain days where stuff's
Speaker 1: going on downstairs or in his life where he just
Speaker 1: comes in he's angry. So on Saturday, he was very hungover,
Speaker 1: so he was already not the best mood. Like, once
Speaker 1: he got some water in him, he was totally fine.
Speaker 1: He started drinking against drink before the king. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: all was fine once you got the water in him.
Speaker 1: But he comes in drunk, he comes and hungover. And
Speaker 1: then that when he had DeVonta Freeman, that was as
Speaker 1: angry as I Frank ever, and then the Gronk thing
Speaker 1: kind of proked him up a little bit and he
Speaker 1: was so man Javonta Freeman and I just all on
Speaker 1: all honesty. Couldn't make Alex Collins by RB one And
Speaker 1: that's what pour me. Apart from that pick. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: ideally you don't want Alex Collins to be or RB
Speaker 1: one but you can afford to take the hit at
Speaker 1: running back when your first two wide receivers are Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown and Keenan Now And so that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: But you know, looking back on it again, I said,
Speaker 1: the way it turned out, it made me feel a
Speaker 1: little bit better because we got arguably the number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver and then we got not arguably in my opinion,
Speaker 1: he is the number one tight end. So we have
Speaker 1: two of the best players at their positions. We have
Speaker 1: a solid low end RB one and DeVonta Freeman. And
Speaker 1: the reason I worry about him is, look, he's been
Speaker 1: trending downwards for three straight years now. His usage with
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian was questionable. Last year he was under forty receptions.
Speaker 1: This is a PPR league, and you have the concussions
Speaker 1: on top of all that. So I feel like we
Speaker 1: have all the warning signs right there in front of
Speaker 1: us or DeVonta Freeman, yet we're still still taking him
Speaker 1: in the middle of the second round. Um so whatever,
Speaker 1: he's a solid low end RB one. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: we come back around in the fourth round and we're debating.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to actually, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to stop you St'll be right there just
Speaker 1: for a second. Because one name who has obviously risen
Speaker 1: from where we started this a while ago. I go
Speaker 1: back to our Todd Who's the next Todd Gurley show?
Speaker 1: It was Christian McCaffrey. Right, like Christian McCaffrey's preseason has
Speaker 1: made him has made my first round pick. Essentially, he
Speaker 1: went to three in this draft. But he's close to
Speaker 1: that swing now. He's closer to the swing. And I
Speaker 1: was talking to my friends on Saturday night, and you know,
Speaker 1: normal home league draft, and you're saying, all the running
Speaker 1: backs go and get pushed up, and and because of that,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, O'Dell Beckham, these guys are falling. People are
Speaker 1: drafting pretty consistently that I've seen, maybe not in our draft.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey in a PPR or half PPR over Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook now, and that was not something that I had
Speaker 1: previously seen. And there he's much closer to Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: It seems like that he wants to devote Freeman. I
Speaker 1: have them back to back, and I was really taking
Speaker 1: Freeman over McCaffrey the whole way. That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 1: And now in those half point PPR and the PPR
Speaker 1: I'm closing in on pushing him right past Cook as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know where I am right now on that,
Speaker 1: but it's very close. It is very close. And I
Speaker 1: could see people painting the picture for McCaffrey over Dalvin Cook,
Speaker 1: because if you're buying this North Turner has always had
Speaker 1: a workhorse running back UM theory pretty much, then you
Speaker 1: think that McCaffrey is gonna be the guy. Personally, I
Speaker 1: still feel like, yes, they haven't you see to Anderson
Speaker 1: all that much in the preseason. He'll still get some
Speaker 1: work throughout games. But I think there's concerns for both still.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook coming off the A c L. We know
Speaker 1: how much I like him, but both offensive lines are
Speaker 1: questionable right now, dealing with injuries even more so the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Now that can help the reception total for McCaffrey, but
Speaker 1: I worry about UM his efficiency a little bit more,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned I generally don't worry about efficiency with
Speaker 1: workhorse running backs. I just don't know that is Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey really gonna get us two carries this year. I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's happening. I don't know that I'm
Speaker 1: buying that yet he'll maybe he's at two hundred now
Speaker 1: two hundred with you know, sixty to seventy receptions, and
Speaker 1: we get that we get close to the two seventy
Speaker 1: five touch mark. But Dalvin Cook, when you know, when
Speaker 1: we went over the early round running backs and I
Speaker 1: painted the picture of how much this Vikings team ran
Speaker 1: the football last year, it was twenty eight carries a
Speaker 1: game with Latavius Murray and Jerick McKinnon, and then another
Speaker 1: five receptions per game. We're talking about over thirty touches
Speaker 1: per game between those two running backs. So even if
Speaker 1: you're worried about Latavius Murray being there, I think Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook is still gonna be a lot for eighteen and
Speaker 1: twenty touches per game. Uh. And overall, I just think
Speaker 1: I like the Vikings offense a little bit more. I
Speaker 1: think I think they're a little bit more balanced. I
Speaker 1: like the defense more than the Panthers. They could be
Speaker 1: playing with more leads. I think it is very close,
Speaker 1: but I still have Dalvin Cook rankedead of you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because you mentioned Ottavius Murray and how they
Speaker 1: split carries with Jerry mckinn. He split carries with Jered
Speaker 1: McKinnon last year. Um, And that's part of the reason
Speaker 1: people are are cooling just a bit on Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: because Latavius Murray is going to have a role. They
Speaker 1: have kind of said that, and he's gonna have this
Speaker 1: role potentially as a goal lineback. They've also pointed out
Speaker 1: to the Vikings offensive line troubles where they've had some
Speaker 1: injuries now during the offseason. The Panthers offensive line troubles
Speaker 1: are well documented, but they have just fed Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: so precipitously. Um, during this preseason. People are overlooking that
Speaker 1: and I think both of these guys are just very,
Speaker 1: very close. And then it does scare me if they
Speaker 1: do give Latavius Murray this goal line role, which we've
Speaker 1: seen him have success with both last year and was
Speaker 1: last year in Oakland, So you know, are they going
Speaker 1: to Are we positive? And this is my question to you, Frank,
Speaker 1: are we positive that Dalvin Cook is going to have
Speaker 1: more touches what it's all said and done, than Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: And if the answer is no, isn't Christian caffrey the pick?
Speaker 1: I am positive of that? Okay? Me? Me personally, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I think Dalvin Cook is in that two
Speaker 1: forty fifty Carrie range and then it gives I think
Speaker 1: he gives you another forty to fifty receptions on top
Speaker 1: of that, maybe even more than fifty. Again, we saw
Speaker 1: how much they use McKinnon and even Latavias Murray in
Speaker 1: the past game last year, So I still think fifty
Speaker 1: receptions is doable for Dalvin Cook. Maybe early on they've
Speaker 1: mentioned they're gonna use Latavia's Murray, but as the season
Speaker 1: goes along, I think they're gonna lean on Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: a lot. And you brought up LaTavia. It's Murray taking
Speaker 1: goal one touches away from Dalvin Cook. Am Newton Gregg like,
Speaker 1: we can't overlook that's McCaffrey didn't get a single goal
Speaker 1: line carry last year. Now he has converted some in
Speaker 1: the preseason, but maybe C J. Anderson gets a few.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that he takes it fun. Maybe
Speaker 1: he takes a few, and then you have to battle
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton there on the goal line as well.
Speaker 1: So I think two of those things. Playing against Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: I think the touch on upside is better for Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: I think the overall yardage upside and touch upside is
Speaker 1: more so for Dalvin Cook. I will say the receptions
Speaker 1: is clearly in favor of McCaffrey. That all right, So
Speaker 1: it's it's getting closer certainly to where it was just
Speaker 1: a month ago at this time. Those are from my
Speaker 1: early first round ish takeaways. Nothing else really surprised me.
Speaker 1: I guess Stefon Diggs is climbing a bit, and we
Speaker 1: saw that in both drafts that we and we he
Speaker 1: went at the he went of the for us, he
Speaker 1: went in the last second last pick of the second
Speaker 1: round because you took him right in the in the
Speaker 1: cart and draft that we had one spot before I
Speaker 1: was gonna take him. And it looks like Stefon Diggs
Speaker 1: is now going right after a J. Green in that
Speaker 1: wide receiver's here. From what I'm saying, Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say that's fair to say. And it's an update on
Speaker 1: where Royce Freeman is going. He's solidly cemented in that
Speaker 1: mid third round. He went three six in his DFC draft.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about our draft, the trends that we're seeing.
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Speaker 1: All right. So back in the draft, we're doing the
Speaker 1: g S t We're just looking at that and we're
Speaker 1: looking at trends more than anything else. I'd say, Um,
Speaker 1: the Stefon Diggs thing really stood out to me. Um
Speaker 1: in the third round as nothing really surprised life. It's
Speaker 1: Gerald's dropping a bit more than I expected. Then he
Speaker 1: had Josh Gordon go early in the fourth. Now Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon returns to practice almost immediately injures his hamstring. What
Speaker 1: do you make of Josh Gordon right now? I am
Speaker 1: not pulling him up to the fourth yet. I think
Speaker 1: it's tough because you have to react to the draft,
Speaker 1: and obviously wide receivers are going earlier in this draft
Speaker 1: because it's three wide receivers, it's PPR. You have a
Speaker 1: flex play as well, it's not super flex, so a
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be flexing wide receivers. So
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon gets pulled up the board a little bit here.
Speaker 1: But again when we spoke about Josh Gordon last week,
Speaker 1: not much has changed for me. I have him in
Speaker 1: that tier with Jarvis Landry, with with Allen Robinson, those guys,
Speaker 1: so I mean they're starting to go off the board.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, where he went, I would have taken
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry over him, Olden Tate, Chris Hogan I would
Speaker 1: have taken over him as well. In PPR, I think
Speaker 1: those guys are just a little bit safer. Again, I
Speaker 1: like the upside of Josh Gordon, but in the fourth
Speaker 1: round it seems little bit earlier. I do like the
Speaker 1: fact that he had Larry Fitzgerald already as his wide
Speaker 1: receiver one, but again I probably want an eat safer
Speaker 1: wide receiver than that if I'm taking Josh Gordon as
Speaker 1: my wide receiver too, Yeah, I think so too. The
Speaker 1: injury does scary off obviously. Hamstring isn't necessarily uh deadly
Speaker 1: by any means not great either. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: great either, right, and it's one of those things that
Speaker 1: can linger. No, we've seen hamstrings caused people, you know
Speaker 1: a week or two, and sake On Barkley certainly looks
Speaker 1: to be back in full strength and they'll be fine
Speaker 1: for opening day. Um, But Josh Gordon's barely practiced, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's in great shape, but like guys barely
Speaker 1: practiced at all with pads on or anything like that.
Speaker 1: By the time he comes back and maybe he tries
Speaker 1: to rush back, he may overcompensate and hurt something else.
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of an issue too. So
Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous about Josh Gordon. I don't think
Speaker 1: I can push them up to the fourth either right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that it's fair. We had a
Speaker 1: few questions Greg about where Doug Baldwin is going. I
Speaker 1: remember we were talking about that last week. We had
Speaker 1: a discussion Doug Baldwin first t Y Hilton and that
Speaker 1: range um and we saw that Doug Baldwin went with
Speaker 1: the second pick of the third round. So over asking,
Speaker 1: I still think he's in the early to mid third round. Rage,
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see him go there. Well, we
Speaker 1: can go back and fall to the late fourth, which
Speaker 1: is when I took him on Thursday night. Well we
Speaker 1: can go back to Cartons the Carton draft on Sunday,
Speaker 1: where we had back to back picks. I had the
Speaker 1: first pick, you had the second pick. Uh. And to
Speaker 1: me there were four. I had Todd Gurley obviously, and
Speaker 1: you would levy On bell Um, And there were four
Speaker 1: wide receivers I really liked. And it was might not
Speaker 1: really like four wide receivers to me that were better
Speaker 1: than everybody else. I should say it was Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: Stefon Dix, Tia Hilton, and Doug Baldwin. And I thought
Speaker 1: that was essentially a tear by itself. And the one
Speaker 1: I wanted the most, as we just said, was Stefon
Speaker 1: Diz who moved up and that was the one you grab.
Speaker 1: And I was having having a really tough time differentiating
Speaker 1: between Evans, Hilton, and Baldwin, Like I really didn't know
Speaker 1: which too to pick out of that um. I wound
Speaker 1: up going with Evans and and Hilton, And to be honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't even know why. I think it's because Baldwin
Speaker 1: still coming back from the injury that scared me off
Speaker 1: a bit. And I think Mike Evans when I know
Speaker 1: I'm not the Mike Evans guy, but we seen him
Speaker 1: be the wide receiver one before. And you know, I
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton always has a good connection with Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: I think it was really really close with those guys.
Speaker 1: I know you haven't ranked a little bit differently. Um,
Speaker 1: that was very tough for me at the two three
Speaker 1: turn there. Yeah, so Mike Evans verse Stefon Diggs. I
Speaker 1: think it is very close right now in the late
Speaker 1: second round. UM, and we've heard, you know, guys like
Speaker 1: Matt Modica Corey talked about this on the network. Is
Speaker 1: diversifying your your your bonds right, like not having the
Speaker 1: same guys on multiple teams and making sure you change
Speaker 1: things up a little bit. So the date the day before, UM,
Speaker 1: on Saturday night, I actually took Mike Evans in my
Speaker 1: home league, and because of that, Sunday morning, when we
Speaker 1: got here we're debating Stefon Diggs versus Mike Evans. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I already took Mike Evans last night.
Speaker 1: I want to change it up a little bit. UM,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ahead and take Stefon Diggs. And
Speaker 1: I was with you. I think those guys are pretty
Speaker 1: much a tear. I think Diggs and Evans is like
Speaker 1: like a toss up. And then I have Doug Baldwin
Speaker 1: ranked ahead of We talked about that late last week
Speaker 1: that you had you had switched Baldwin, Um and Hilton.
Speaker 1: Were you confident, and I don't know how much attention
Speaker 1: you have sing in my draft, were you confident that
Speaker 1: I would take two of those guys as well? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Actually told um Greg Biden, your partner host Redfelt breaks
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Speaker 1: in the box break. Yeah. So we were talking about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I know Greg's gonna take Stefon Diggs
Speaker 1: if I don't take him, right, And I figured the
Speaker 1: other player, you would definitely take us t Y Hilton.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, we'll take Diggs, will
Speaker 1: take whoever he doesn't take of those three wide receivers,
Speaker 1: and then we'll start, you know, Levian Bell and two
Speaker 1: wide receivers in a row, Stefon Diggs, Doug Baldwin. That's
Speaker 1: what we did again. Look, people are worried about the knee.
Speaker 1: I understand it. But everything that we've heard, and I
Speaker 1: know Pete Carroll is very optimistic person, but everything we've
Speaker 1: heard says Doug Baldin will be ready for Baldwin has
Speaker 1: has said that himself. He's been running already, So all
Speaker 1: those things are very encouraging. And I told you that
Speaker 1: before the injury, I was very very bullish on Doug
Speaker 1: Baldwin because Jimmy Graham has gone, Paul Richardson is gone,
Speaker 1: the rest of the wide receiver corps. We have a
Speaker 1: what we think is a washed up Brandon Marshall, We
Speaker 1: have an off injured Tyler Lockett Um really no fantasy
Speaker 1: relevant tight end. They have Nick Vnette there. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a chance that Doug Baldwin could just be
Speaker 1: peppered with targets, just have this monstrous volume year where
Speaker 1: we're looking at like a hundred and fifty plus targets,
Speaker 1: and if that happens, he's gonna give you, you know,
Speaker 1: twelve yards and he's gonna flirt with double digit touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I really do like him. I think the injury scared
Speaker 1: me off a little bit, but I'm getting back to
Speaker 1: that place where I feel very very strongly about Baldwin again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I get it. I completely get it. You always
Speaker 1: drafted Doug Baldwin in the past because he was safe.
Speaker 1: As long as he's healthy, he's going to be safe.
Speaker 1: He's a safe top twelve wide receiver consistently does that.
Speaker 1: And now you couple that in with I think he
Speaker 1: has even more upside. Now you know he has the
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdown year, but Russell Wilson leaned on Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: in the red zone. He doesn't have Jimmy Graham anymore.
Speaker 1: Who's the next guy up that he leans on mostly
Speaker 1: and not since the red zone? Just overall, it's Doug Baldwin.
Speaker 1: So I think I think we can see a double
Speaker 1: digit touchdown year out of Doug Baldwin. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't disagree with any of that. So
Speaker 1: then going back to our draft in the middle of
Speaker 1: the fourth round, as we're seeing wide receivers get called up,
Speaker 1: pushed up, um. That's what with Chris Hogan, right, And
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan was a fifth rounder just a week or
Speaker 1: two ago, and we saw him really really get pushed
Speaker 1: up um and so much so that we were in
Speaker 1: the middle of the fourth round and we're like, man,
Speaker 1: which wide receiver do we take Chris Hogan or Golden
Speaker 1: Tate And and you're like, Hey, I'm the Hogan guy,
Speaker 1: and I really I didn't have a lean. I thought
Speaker 1: this was very, very tough, and just being that PPR
Speaker 1: league and the fact we already had grown not that
Speaker 1: you don't want to double up on any Engan offense,
Speaker 1: but kind of led me towards Golden Tea. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel strongly either way. Um, but we did wind up
Speaker 1: Jet and Golden Tate's my only share of him. Uh.
Speaker 1: Thus far, what do you think of Golden Tate and
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan that debate? Yeah? I do you think it
Speaker 1: was very close. My problem with taking Chris Hogan there
Speaker 1: already had him was taking Freeman, Gronk and Chris Hogan
Speaker 1: three picks in a row. That is a lot of
Speaker 1: injury risk to take on. Yeah, Vonte Freeman with the concussions,
Speaker 1: We've already spoke about that. Gronk I's had so many
Speaker 1: ailments in his career already, so you know he's been
Speaker 1: injury probe. But when he's on the field, he is
Speaker 1: the best tight end. And then Chris Hogan, Uh, you
Speaker 1: know a guy who hasn't played sixteen games yet in
Speaker 1: his career either. He only played nine games last year.
Speaker 1: So as much as I love the upside of Chris Hogan.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of risks there. I think,
Speaker 1: given who we took in the second and third with
Speaker 1: Freeman and Gron, we come back in the fourth and
Speaker 1: take that safe wide receiver in Golden Tate to pair
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown again for PPR. He's gonna give you
Speaker 1: ninety receptions, he's gonna give you over a thousand yards
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be in that four to six touchdown range.
Speaker 1: Maybe the touchdowns, maybe the chance they go up. No
Speaker 1: Eric ebrown this year. That's what you would hope. That's
Speaker 1: the optimistic way of looking at Golden Tate, But it
Speaker 1: was really Golden Tate versus Hogan. And if we were
Speaker 1: looking at running back, we were debating Derrick Henry. But
Speaker 1: again in a PPR league, full point, PPR doesn't catch
Speaker 1: a lot of passes. We we went with weaptions. We
Speaker 1: ultimately felt pretty strongly, I think at that time we're
Speaker 1: gonna go wide receiver with Hogan or Tate. Like um,
Speaker 1: we did consider Henry really more in the third than
Speaker 1: we did in the fourth, and uh Henry later went
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, Chris Hogan went in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: Nothing else really surprising in that fourth and I thought,
Speaker 1: besides Corey Davis being in that conversation right now, Corey Davis,
Speaker 1: the hype is real once again, everyone buying in on
Speaker 1: the Corey Davis speculation. Oh, you're surprised to see him
Speaker 1: go to this early. I'm not. Again, like Chris Hogan,
Speaker 1: he's getting pushed up the draft board. You know they were.
Speaker 1: There were reports last week that he was. You know,
Speaker 1: they're lining them up all over the field. They're trying
Speaker 1: to find creative ways for to get him open. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be the focal point of their passing attack as well.
Speaker 1: Um So look, I feel like where you're drafting him
Speaker 1: now in the fourth round, you're really paying for his ceiling,
Speaker 1: like you need him to him absolutely off in that
Speaker 1: fourth round. So I'm sorry, I just don't know how
Speaker 1: you can you could draft the Corey Davis over us
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan as an example, because we've seen Chris Hogan
Speaker 1: go off in the New Zealand offense like we had
Speaker 1: see Corey Davis do anything. It's scary. I think it's
Speaker 1: a scary pick. Yeah. Look, I think you can make
Speaker 1: the argument for both guys going in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan, we we haven't seen him stay healthy, and
Speaker 1: we're projecting him to take on more of a role
Speaker 1: now that Brandon Cooks isn't there. We think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the number one wide receiver for the Patriots UM
Speaker 1: and again, much stronger offense. So you can buy a
Speaker 1: little bit more so into Chris Hogan going in the
Speaker 1: fourth than Corey Davis. But if you're a believer in
Speaker 1: Corey Davis getting you know, volume, being the number one
Speaker 1: target and his talent, you you couple that opportunity in
Speaker 1: with the fact that we think he's a very, very
Speaker 1: talented wide receiver, and ultimately that's what ends up pushing
Speaker 1: him up the board into the fourth round. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I would do it. I had another draft
Speaker 1: last night. I got him in the fifth round. Um.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, again in the PPR league, where the wide
Speaker 1: receivers are getting pushed up the draft board, I'm not
Speaker 1: really surprised to see it happened. So moving continuing on
Speaker 1: with our draft, just to give you an idea where
Speaker 1: people went. We're in the middle of the fifth round.
Speaker 1: We don't have an RB two and now for the
Speaker 1: second consecutive Um, not second consecutive, but second draft that
Speaker 1: I did this. Uh, we said more Ingram. In the
Speaker 1: middle of the second round, we're looking at the running
Speaker 1: backs and um, we had debated Marshawn Lynch, Carlos Hyde
Speaker 1: uh and and Jamal Williams was out. Jamal Williams, carry
Speaker 1: On Johnson both out there as well, and we looked
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, maybe we can pair up a
Speaker 1: Mark Ingram with Carlos Hide. Ideally was it was the
Speaker 1: idea there. Um Frank pushed for Carlos Hides at that spot.
Speaker 1: I think we all were okay, we were. We all
Speaker 1: liked Carlos Side, we all liked we all like everybody
Speaker 1: really at the spot, we were completely on the same page. Um.
Speaker 1: What made us take markting room here? I think I
Speaker 1: think the fact that we knew which running backs were
Speaker 1: left on the board at that time. It was the
Speaker 1: middle of the fifth round. So there was Lynch, there
Speaker 1: was Carlos Hide, there was carry On Johnson, there was
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, there was Jamal Williams. So we knew there
Speaker 1: was at least five running backs left that we liked
Speaker 1: that if they fell back to us in the sixth round,
Speaker 1: we can pair that running back with Mark Ingram. We
Speaker 1: know that when Ingram returns, he's still gonna have his
Speaker 1: role on this team. I don't think that, you know,
Speaker 1: Camar is just gonna go ahead and take over. I
Speaker 1: think Um Kamar will see an upstick and touches. But
Speaker 1: Ingram was very, very effective for this team. He's looked
Speaker 1: all right in the preseason, and you know he was
Speaker 1: their goal line runner last year. He had more of
Speaker 1: those in Alvin Kamara. So in that potent offense, you
Speaker 1: still like marking Room a lot. And then when we
Speaker 1: were able to pair him with which is something you
Speaker 1: love doing, Greg, and for your second draft in a
Speaker 1: room pulling this off. It's getting mark Ingram and pairing
Speaker 1: him with Jamal Williams, which is something we've been telling
Speaker 1: people to do. Yeah, I didn't think I become the
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams guy. I have. I have Jamal Williams everywhere.
Speaker 1: I think I absolutely love the guy. What I really
Speaker 1: liked in this draft was the ability UM to take
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones A few picks later. I thought we have
Speaker 1: a really good value there. I saw somebody had a
Speaker 1: tax message. Actually, uh this morning about this ast me
Speaker 1: find it that Matthew Berry and love hate said he
Speaker 1: believes Aaron Jones could be this year's Alvin Kamara, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool, Well if he doesn't, we have them.
Speaker 1: And I think that is beneficial. As I was looking
Speaker 1: at our bench when I came in this morning, we
Speaker 1: really really well with the death later on, Like, I
Speaker 1: really like how our team turned out, and I think
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, if the hype is real, uh, it could
Speaker 1: come out um something really special. So I really liked
Speaker 1: what we did here, and I really liked pairing Ingram
Speaker 1: and Jamal Williams. And it kind of went um exactly
Speaker 1: direction that we were hoping it would. And it's funny
Speaker 1: because when we were in the sixth round, when we
Speaker 1: were taking Jamal Williams, we weren't sure which guy to
Speaker 1: take there. We wanted again Jamal Williams, um, and I
Speaker 1: really want Robert Woods. I hadn't how to share Robert Woods,
Speaker 1: who was my guy. I hadn't had a single share
Speaker 1: of him all obviously, all all season long, and when
Speaker 1: he was coming towards us in the seventh round, I
Speaker 1: was just praying he would get there. Um. It was
Speaker 1: on Mike Williams go right ahead of him. Randall Cobs.
Speaker 1: Basically one to three, four, six receivers go directly before
Speaker 1: Robert was none of them being him, and I was
Speaker 1: just thrills immediately just jump on that one, would you
Speaker 1: guys are nice enough to let me have. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I think Robert Woods is a very very strong wide
Speaker 1: receiver three, especially in PPR. I've moved him down a
Speaker 1: little bit because we're getting a little bit more hype
Speaker 1: with Cooper cup and I think the fact that they
Speaker 1: signed Brandon Cooks to that extension, he will have more
Speaker 1: of a role in this offense. So maybe Cooks, maybe
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. He's a little bit of a downtick this year,
Speaker 1: but I think he was a very very safe possession
Speaker 1: receiver four Jared Goff one season ago. Um, So I
Speaker 1: like that a lot. I think that's he's very fine
Speaker 1: as your wide receiver three in PPR. So looking at
Speaker 1: our wide receivers Antonio Brown, Golden Tate, Robert Woods and
Speaker 1: your three wide receivers, and then our running backs end
Speaker 1: up being Freeman. We'll wait from market. I'm gonna get back.
Speaker 1: We have Jamal Williams, but then we also have the
Speaker 1: best tight end in the game in Rob Gronkowski. So
Speaker 1: I don't really have a problem with the way uh
Speaker 1: this worked out. I think I think we executed pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think if you look at
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, and we've had some questions about that, um,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers winds up going in the middle of the
Speaker 1: fourth round, which is uh, certainly later um than expected
Speaker 1: and probably will be in your league the middle of
Speaker 1: the fourth round, and is an expert draft. And we
Speaker 1: had we actually had said that after we took Um,
Speaker 1: after we took Gronk in the third, we had said,
Speaker 1: if Aar Rodgers gets back to us in the fourth, like,
Speaker 1: we're seriously gonna have to consider that he went one
Speaker 1: pick before us. So we didn't and that was fine. Um.
Speaker 1: The next quarterback I believe was Russell Wilson two rounds
Speaker 1: later in the same in the middle of the six round.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks did not go nearly as fast as even nearly
Speaker 1: a yeah, as fast, I actually thought, even though it's
Speaker 1: an experts league and quarterbacks always get pushed down, I
Speaker 1: still thought they'd go a little bit earlier. We took
Speaker 1: our last elite quarterback in the middle of the eighth round.
Speaker 1: He got Cam Newton, was pretty pumped about. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't really know what position we were leaning there at
Speaker 1: that point, but you know, once you see we saw
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz go off the board, We saw Andrew Luk
Speaker 1: go off the board, all before Cam Newton in the
Speaker 1: eighth round. To me, you know, I still have Cam
Speaker 1: Newton ranked inside my top four. I think he's part
Speaker 1: of that elite group. You have some question marks about
Speaker 1: the offensive line, but we saw that work to its
Speaker 1: advantage last year with another mobile quarterback in Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Wilson had a terrible, terrible offensive line last year. Um
Speaker 1: and because of that, he had to run more and
Speaker 1: he had more rushing production. And then you coupled that
Speaker 1: with the fact that Cam Newton has the best weapons
Speaker 1: of his career. He has Greg Olsen returning, he has
Speaker 1: Devin Funches, they draft d J. Moore, Christian McCaffrey is
Speaker 1: gonna catch a ton of passes out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: Even Curtis Samuel has looked good in the preseason here too.
Speaker 1: So you know, another gadget player that they can use
Speaker 1: logan Cam Newton in the eighth round. I think that's fine.
Speaker 1: Value Again, you know, we were really value based draft here. Um,
Speaker 1: we didn't come into this draft thinking we wanted Ronk
Speaker 1: in the third round, but when he lasts that long,
Speaker 1: you just say, look, there's a point where the value
Speaker 1: is too good. You take Ronk and in the eighth
Speaker 1: round again at the quarterback position, the value is just
Speaker 1: too good. You just don't pass up on an elite
Speaker 1: quarterback like Cam Like that, we mentioned Josh Gordon a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier on Hugh Jackson has already said that
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon will not start the opener for Cleveland. He
Speaker 1: may play, he may play, he will not start. Even
Speaker 1: if he's one week one regular season. That's that's tough
Speaker 1: because obviously you don't want to get off to a
Speaker 1: slow start in fantasy. So you know, you take Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon a fourth fifth round range as your second or
Speaker 1: third wide receiver, it's easier to swallow that pill when
Speaker 1: he is your third wide receiver. But again, like we
Speaker 1: see here, a lot of people are ending up with
Speaker 1: Gordon as their second wide receiver. And the fact that
Speaker 1: he's not going to start, and we know that in
Speaker 1: week one, Um, it's a little it's tougher to pull
Speaker 1: that trigger there in the fourth round. Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: and you just know even if he's he's not going
Speaker 1: to start again, that might not mean anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: he might come off the bench after one play and
Speaker 1: play a full game. Right, You have two receptions in
Speaker 1: the red zone to have two touchdowns. Yeah, exactly. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give the full information essentially of
Speaker 1: what we had. Um kind of looking more at the
Speaker 1: gd s C draft and we'll go on to the
Speaker 1: next draft of the second here, Frank, Um, we got
Speaker 1: the Kelvin Benjamin in the ninth, which I know you liked.
Speaker 1: I pushed from Marquis Lee, which would have been a disaster. Um,
Speaker 1: so I'm happy with the very next pick that that
Speaker 1: would have been very very sure we survived. Marquis Lee
Speaker 1: out for the year. Want to come back, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about who you want to replace Marquis Lee with and
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Speaker 1: on one of them and hopefully it's the right one.
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Speaker 1: State restrictions to apply. Frankie, I mentioned mark easily went
Speaker 1: one pick after we'd selected Kelvin Benjamin in the draft
Speaker 1: A league moments later essentially shredded up his knee and
Speaker 1: he just plays on injury reserve, expecting to miss the
Speaker 1: entire season. I was pushing for a Jacksonville receiver before
Speaker 1: that because we didn't know who would emerge. All four
Speaker 1: of them were on the board for a while before
Speaker 1: Marky's lee went, and then mon Creeve, d D Westbrook
Speaker 1: and Keeling Cole stay for a very very long time.
Speaker 1: You and I believe like our third to last round
Speaker 1: wound up taking Dante Moncreef from the second last round.
Speaker 1: He took him. He picked defense before that. Yes, the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. I just wanted to lock that up because
Speaker 1: I'm very bullish on them as well. Feel like people
Speaker 1: are sleeping. You know, he's just leaving all the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: That's the defense on our own. Look, Greg, we subscribe
Speaker 1: to the Nando theory before the weekend started, and we
Speaker 1: mentioned who did the Cardinals face on Sunday Night? They
Speaker 1: faced decimated Cowboys offensive line. What did the Cardinals go
Speaker 1: out and do last night decimate them? They decimated the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. That defense looks strong too. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: so too. Cardinals and Broncos. I think people are just
Speaker 1: forgetting about them. I agree with you. Um, actually drive
Speaker 1: Jane the Broncos in a few places now. Actually, yeah, Look,
Speaker 1: whenever you have elite pass rushers like that Bradley Chubb
Speaker 1: and Von Miller together, I mean even Night is still
Speaker 1: there too, and keep to leaves not but Harris is Chris.
Speaker 1: Harris is a very very strong player too. Yeah. So anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: Marcus Lego's down and all I've read about on Twitter
Speaker 1: is healing. Cole and and J J. Zack Yes, and
Speaker 1: over a Vanduel was literally like Healing Cole season, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, everybody is super duper high on Healing
Speaker 1: Cole and and for me, I'm just like number one,
Speaker 1: I'm following the money with Dte Monk. And I've said
Speaker 1: that to you before the markets Lee injury. I'm saying
Speaker 1: it after like they went out and paid this guy.
Speaker 1: And I think he was starting already in two wide
Speaker 1: receiver sets. Marks still starting obviously in two wide receiver sets.
Speaker 1: The other spots gonna belong to either D. D. Westbrook
Speaker 1: or Healing Cole. I think both are talented. Obviously Westbrook
Speaker 1: at the off the field problems which dropped his draft stock,
Speaker 1: but he really went off last preseason. I think now
Speaker 1: he's healthy, given a full role, he could turn out
Speaker 1: to be the guy if there ultimately is a guy
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, given how much they run the ball Frank
Speaker 1: out of Dozing, Helan Cole and D. D. Westbrook, which
Speaker 1: one would you rather have? If I had to choose one,
Speaker 1: it would be Healing Cole. And I think you just
Speaker 1: look at what he did last year. He actually led
Speaker 1: this team in receiving with seven forty eight yards, only
Speaker 1: had three touchdowns, but he did that only getting eighty
Speaker 1: one target so you know, he had a bunch of
Speaker 1: deep passes down the field. At eleven receptions of twenty
Speaker 1: plus yards also led the team in that category. It
Speaker 1: wasn't close. The next closest, Marquis Lee, had six receptions
Speaker 1: of twenty plus yards. Uh, he had seventeen point eight
Speaker 1: yards per reception. So look, he's six ft one. I
Speaker 1: think he's a good combination of size, speed. He gets
Speaker 1: down the field, he's dynamic, can make the deep catch,
Speaker 1: he can they can also use him in the red zone. Uh.
Speaker 1: He had a solid postseason as well, So I think
Speaker 1: you know that's why people are starting to hype up
Speaker 1: Helan Cole. He's like he's like a metrics guy, like
Speaker 1: where you look into the advanced numbers and he abotually
Speaker 1: looks really good. But if you watch him play, he
Speaker 1: also looked really good. Ultimately, if he starts to get
Speaker 1: pushed up the draft board too much, I don't want
Speaker 1: much exposure of the Jaguars passing offense regardless, because again,
Speaker 1: it could be frustrating. It could be d d Westbrook,
Speaker 1: it could be Dante Moncreeve. Uh. They drafted DJ Chark
Speaker 1: for a reason too, so people were talking him up
Speaker 1: as well. If I had to take one, it would
Speaker 1: be Healing Cole. But if you wanted exposure to the
Speaker 1: Jaguars passing offense for whatever reason, I don't know why,
Speaker 1: just take the one that's going latest in drafts. Like
Speaker 1: if you're in a draft and you see the other
Speaker 1: two go between Westbrook and Celan Cole or vice versa,
Speaker 1: just take whichever one you can get cheapest. But if
Speaker 1: I had to whose one, it would be Celing Cole.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it that that's and that's
Speaker 1: reasonable too. Uh. I know one of the top handcuffs
Speaker 1: you've been in on all off season for your Frank
Speaker 1: has been um Chase Edmonds, like you love Chase Edmonds
Speaker 1: out there in Arizona. Good news for you, not great
Speaker 1: news to the Cardinals. H d J. Foster, who is
Speaker 1: another running back competing for that backup job by David Johnson. Uh,
Speaker 1: towards a c L last news carter off last night too.
Speaker 1: Now it's official that they towards a CML. So Chase
Speaker 1: Evans really locked in as that handcoff to David Johnson,
Speaker 1: and if David Johnson does have another injury, you're you're
Speaker 1: basically getting potentially an RB two right there in Chase Edmonds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that was the case all along. I
Speaker 1: think they like Chase Edmonds a lot. I think he's
Speaker 1: very dynamic in what he can do, both on the
Speaker 1: ground and as a receiver. You know, coming out of Fordham,
Speaker 1: Emory Hunt loved this guy, talked him up, and the
Speaker 1: player Emery Hunt talked up last year, Terre Cohen, came
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and started performing for the Bears as well.
Speaker 1: So you trust the scouting of Emery Hunt of course. Um,
Speaker 1: and everything that they've said about Chase Edmonds is that
Speaker 1: they love him. And you know, we're starting to see
Speaker 1: these handcuffs actually go up the draft board a little
Speaker 1: bit more based on what they're doing in preseason. John
Speaker 1: Kelly had a big preseason games, so I was really fresh,
Speaker 1: went off the board really really Connor. I was really
Speaker 1: frustrated about John Kelly. UM, I didn't get Connor either,
Speaker 1: And I was right in Courtly. We had actually I
Speaker 1: have a partner. I was talking to him about Kelly
Speaker 1: and we were taking Kelly with our next pick. And
Speaker 1: he went right in the middle of the round. The
Speaker 1: same thing with James Connor, because it kind of set
Speaker 1: it off because someone took John Kelly and then it
Speaker 1: was Mike Blue and Dane sharing a team and it's
Speaker 1: my own fault, like I'm not blaming them a bit
Speaker 1: like I'm blaming myself. Um he went in the fourteenth round.
Speaker 1: I think I told to take Theo Riddic. I just
Speaker 1: wanted a little bit more um PPR running back rather
Speaker 1: than just take a handcuff. So I took Riddick and
Speaker 1: I think it was like the thirteen and then coming
Speaker 1: back in the fourteen. James Connor didn't make it to me.
Speaker 1: And anytime you're left bell owner, you need to have
Speaker 1: the Steelers backup running. That's crazy because at that spot
Speaker 1: you pay right before me. In that fourteenth round, I thought,
Speaker 1: for sure you wind up taking James Evans because you're
Speaker 1: a guy, and you didn't. And I was surprised by
Speaker 1: that one. I don't remember who we ended up taking
Speaker 1: in the fourteen round of that draft, obviously, I mean
Speaker 1: just so many there's just a lot of draft. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I like I like taking all three. I think it
Speaker 1: makes sense, especially if you do own their counterparts. But
Speaker 1: even if you don't, just late and draft if you
Speaker 1: want to take a shot on someone. If anything happens
Speaker 1: to these players David Johnson with Chase Edmonds, Lead Bell
Speaker 1: with James Conner, if anything happens to their the person
Speaker 1: above them on the depth chart, they're gonna have serious,
Speaker 1: serious roles here. Yeah, right before me us took a
Speaker 1: Buck Allen. You took buck Allen over Jase Evans. I
Speaker 1: think again, what we were thinking is just getting PPR depth.
Speaker 1: Would you have taken your boy des Bryant that run,
Speaker 1: because that's another conversation we need to have. Oh God, Greggy,
Speaker 1: come on, don't kill me. I'm not killing you. We had.
Speaker 1: We had a bit of a conversation, a a fight,
Speaker 1: you could call it disagreement because in our gs T draft,
Speaker 1: the expert draft over the weekend, we got to I
Speaker 1: want to be I don't know we got it was
Speaker 1: the fourteen round. I feel a little bit better about
Speaker 1: it right now. We got to the fourteenth round and
Speaker 1: I think I again it was was pushing for these
Speaker 1: Jaguars wide receivers and again there's not much on the
Speaker 1: board here, and the next wide receiver off the board
Speaker 1: was Ryan grant Um. Albert Wilson like, Kim, Greg, push
Speaker 1: your Frank Gore Richardson, he's still on the board. Up
Speaker 1: his point, I push your Frank Gore at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got Frank Gore two rounds later, we did, but
Speaker 1: we wound up taking Dez Bryant the middle of the
Speaker 1: fourteenth round. I could not understand it because Frank was
Speaker 1: just like so he pushed it really hard. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this guy has had one visit since he was released,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't He wasn't signed. Why are we wasting
Speaker 1: a draft pick on him? Which that's Briant, like, that's
Speaker 1: not wasting a draft pick. It's the fourteenth round. Greg,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that was going in the second
Speaker 1: round of drafts last year, and I know he does
Speaker 1: He's not on a team yet, he hasn't signed. But
Speaker 1: if he doesn't end up somewhere, even if it's once
Speaker 1: a season starts, once an injury takes place, what does
Speaker 1: it matter. It was a fourteenth round and I named
Speaker 1: the wide receivers that were available. There wasn't much left anyway,
Speaker 1: and we got him as our wide receiver six. So
Speaker 1: I think at that point, whatever, you take a shot.
Speaker 1: We were asked by Christopher Carrow, the commissioner and owner
Speaker 1: of the g ST, how soon will drop him? I
Speaker 1: said before week one? He in for me. There were
Speaker 1: no waivers before week one, so I responded it right
Speaker 1: immediately following week one, which Frank had never bottled him.
Speaker 1: I don't I still have one eight four four eight
Speaker 1: four three seven nine. Let me go to you. I
Speaker 1: want to go to Billy in California. It's up, Billy.
Speaker 1: Do we have Billy? Hey? Bill? What's up? Man? Hey? Um?
Speaker 1: Last night we did the draft and I kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to call you. I went a couple of Bears
Speaker 1: players and I just kind of listening to you guys.
Speaker 1: I got Alan Row it's in it like pick seventy. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know why nobody picked him. I ended up
Speaker 1: with Chris Howard. Um, forgive me Chris Howard. Let me
Speaker 1: go back. Yeah. I ended up getting Jordan Howard on
Speaker 1: the third because I was picked three so David Johnson,
Speaker 1: UM and Gosh Davante Adams and then ended up getting
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard as the RB two. UM. I didn't get
Speaker 1: Tarik Cohen, so I don't have it. I'm a full
Speaker 1: point ppr UM twelve team and two running back to
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is there any kind of depth in the
Speaker 1: path catching back because I don't, I mean, besides shame
Speaker 1: I ended up getting Alex Collins or yeah from Baltimore
Speaker 1: and then Jones the second from Tampa Bay I got
Speaker 1: later on because nobody grabbed him. In your opinion, are
Speaker 1: these Chicago guys trustworthy and and should I try and
Speaker 1: you know, formulate something from more of a pass catching
Speaker 1: back on the back end of my roster, I think
Speaker 1: you're absolutely fine. Man like Jordan Howard, even if he
Speaker 1: catches thirties thirty five balls this year, the fact that
Speaker 1: you have David Johnson, who should, if he's healthy, catch
Speaker 1: sixty seventy plus, I think that kind of mitigates the
Speaker 1: fact that Jordan Howard isn't going to catch all that
Speaker 1: many passes. But regardless, what Howard is gonna do on
Speaker 1: the ground as a rusher and in terms of scoring touchdowns,
Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to the reason we love Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott is he's still going to produce as a rusher
Speaker 1: and scoring touchdowns. So I think I'll kind of make
Speaker 1: up for the fact that he's not catching many passes
Speaker 1: and he's still got Alex Collins, uh and Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: as well. Do you worry about those guys catching the ball?
Speaker 1: But again, as your RB three, RB four, I'm perfectly
Speaker 1: found that. I think you did a good job. Eight
Speaker 1: four four, eight four three six eight seven nine. Continue
Speaker 1: on the phones and fantasy Smitty out in Rochester. What's
Speaker 1: up man? He follows, congratulations, thank you on the engagement. Um,
Speaker 1: I crushed it at a draft league. I almost felt
Speaker 1: guilty listening to people draft because they were so far
Speaker 1: away from what they should have been doing. But my
Speaker 1: question is, at what point how many players would you
Speaker 1: trade to get a top ten player? Because my bench
Speaker 1: has Rorice Freeman, Sammy Watkins, killy On Johnson, and my
Speaker 1: third running back is Lamar Willer after Chris McCaffrey, Levan Bell,
Speaker 1: and AJ Green's my number one wide receiver, Marvin Jones
Speaker 1: number two. How many of those guys would you package
Speaker 1: to get one of the top ten to solidify maybe
Speaker 1: that second wide receiver spot or the flax. I think
Speaker 1: this is a good question because I do agree. I
Speaker 1: love AJ Green, I love the running back depth that
Speaker 1: you ended up with even your starting running backs. They're
Speaker 1: all phenomenal, but ultimately you want to be stronger than
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones. I think as your wide receiver too. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's terrible by any means, but if you
Speaker 1: had to give up like a Sammy Watkins and a
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman to get I'm just throwing your name out there,
Speaker 1: Davante Adams or a Stefon Diggs, one of those second
Speaker 1: round wide receivers. Um. I think because you have the depth,
Speaker 1: you can pull something like that off. But you're prob
Speaker 1: we're going to have to pair one of your wide
Speaker 1: receivers with one of these depth running backs you have,
Speaker 1: whether it's carry On, whether it's Royce Freeman. Obviously you
Speaker 1: would want to start lower Harry Watkins and carry On
Speaker 1: out there and just kind of floated out see what
Speaker 1: kind of wide receiver you can get in return. But
Speaker 1: then if you have to up the anti, maybe you
Speaker 1: pair um, Sammy Watkins with a Royce Freeman to try
Speaker 1: and get one of those second round wide receivers. Greig,
Speaker 1: we'll continue taking your calls as we sign off on
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Speaker 1: up Michael in Texas. What's up, Michael, how's it? Uh?
Speaker 1: Two quick questions. One in regards to running back one
Speaker 1: of the best of defense. So with running back, uh,
Speaker 1: I see how I drafted Alexhns in the third round.
Speaker 1: But I have this if he's feeling about him being
Speaker 1: an at times with Kenneth Dixon, just just asking which
Speaker 1: I'll think about that. And then my defensive question is
Speaker 1: in regards to Week one, I didn't drop the defense
Speaker 1: or I need to stream. So it's between the Titans
Speaker 1: defense against the Dolphins, Atlantics defense against the Eagles. The
Speaker 1: Eagles look terrible this preseason, and the Cardinals defense against uh,
Speaker 1: the Redskins. So that's my question. I'll take the defensive
Speaker 1: side of it. We're just talking about defense that impressidents
Speaker 1: and it's the Atlanta Arizona Cardinals. Excuse me. They've just
Speaker 1: been ferocious all preseason, um with sacks, with turnovers, and
Speaker 1: although it's not all the first team, of course, it
Speaker 1: just shows you the style of play. Give me the
Speaker 1: Cardinals against Washington, even though Titans are a better matchup
Speaker 1: with Miami, the ferociousness of Arizona will get you more
Speaker 1: points doing the other things. I'll take. The Arizona defense
Speaker 1: is other question, Frank. First of all, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a chance you pick up the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and they perform a Week one and not
Speaker 1: only that they could there's a chance they could be
Speaker 1: an elite defense. This here at top five style defense,
Speaker 1: so I would pick up them as well. As for
Speaker 1: Alex Collins, I understand why some people might be a
Speaker 1: little hesitant about what we've seen from him in the preseason,
Speaker 1: and coupled with the fact that Kenneth Dixon has looked
Speaker 1: so good um and Buck buck Allen has looked good
Speaker 1: as well. But I think it's even more so telling
Speaker 1: that the Ravens to me, are treating him like their
Speaker 1: work horse starting running back because they're not using him
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I think the fact that they're protecting him,
Speaker 1: Like you see these teams, Todd Gurley has him be
Speaker 1: playing Ezekiel Elliott hasn't been playing. Why aren't the Ravens
Speaker 1: playing Alex Collins? To me, it's because he is their
Speaker 1: work horse running back. And if I'm wrong, look, I
Speaker 1: will be eating my words because I have been pumping
Speaker 1: Alex Collins up into the third round. Greg, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if the reason Alex Collins is going in
Speaker 1: the third round of draft right now, it's solely because
Speaker 1: of me. So you are you saying Alex Collins is
Speaker 1: You're blakes now? Alex Collins is my blakes now. Although look,
Speaker 1: I don't know that we'll ever get a better call
Speaker 1: than the one Michael flight Be we've ever had on
Speaker 1: the BFFs. We because we we all made that call, Greg,
Speaker 1: because we are a collective unit. Of course, you did
Speaker 1: right with that. We're also one quarter of one half
Speaker 1: of the tax team champions. That's right next, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we were there cheering on e Y and
Speaker 1: we went cheer. We were there cheering. We were there
Speaker 1: because we went we were one of the team. We
Speaker 1: were waiting to get tagged in. Never tagged this, which
Speaker 1: is cool. It was me. You look really good out
Speaker 1: of a hot tag rig. Yeah. Yeah, Florida looked like
Speaker 1: the ring on fire. Sam uh, Let's continue on the
Speaker 1: junior in the Bronx's junior. Hey, how are you doing
Speaker 1: doing well? Man? What's going on? All right? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: twelve team half point PPR and everybody went running back heavy.
Speaker 1: I wanted to grab one of those work coorse running backs,
Speaker 1: but I ended up with Beckham sitting at twelve, Hopkins
Speaker 1: a third team, and then see Y Hilton in the
Speaker 1: third round. All these guys was gone, and my running
Speaker 1: backs is Royce Freeman, Jamal Williams. I have Sony Michelle
Speaker 1: and Rashad Penny. I got only Roska flour running backs.
Speaker 1: Um can I survive the storm? And that's my question?
Speaker 1: I think it's easier to survive with Royce Freeman Jamal
Speaker 1: Williams when you have these elite level talent wide receivers
Speaker 1: to start your draft, I mean to get t Y
Speaker 1: Hilton at the end of the third round, because obviously
Speaker 1: you started O b J and Hopkins at twelve thirteen.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good job man. Like again, Like
Speaker 1: we said, there comes a point in every draft where
Speaker 1: if the value is too good, you just can't pass
Speaker 1: up on it. So look, you might have to make
Speaker 1: a trade at some point. I don't know if your
Speaker 1: league allows trading. We drafted a few leagues this weekend
Speaker 1: that we don't have trading. But if someone gets hurt
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position and you have these elite
Speaker 1: level guys, there's a chance that someone will come knocking
Speaker 1: for your t Y Hilton and then maybe you turn
Speaker 1: that into a top twelve running back. I think you
Speaker 1: can survive when you have that talented of a wide
Speaker 1: receiver group because they can honestly just carry your team
Speaker 1: and there you go. There you have it. The latest
Speaker 1: and the greatest from all the expert leads that we
Speaker 1: participated in over the weekend. Our home leagues too, because
Speaker 1: I think the good balance is important. Cut the next
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