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Speaker 1: If you've been watching any of our content over the

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Speaker 1: last decade, you know this guy. He is Rick Sarahtella

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft Bible, also one of the scouts of the

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Speaker 1: NFLPA Bowl. For a lot of the college prospects coming

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Speaker 1: out in the draft, Rick, it's good to see a man.

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Speaker 1: How you be, Johnny on the spot, how are you, brother?

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Speaker 1: Good to see it? Yeah, it's good to see a man.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later, we're gonna dig deep into some

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Speaker 1: smaller school prospects with Rick because that's kind of his

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Speaker 1: his forte here. But first, let's focus on what Giant

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Speaker 1: fans want to hear about in terms of what the

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Speaker 1: Giants might do in this draft. And Rick, before we

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Speaker 1: get into some of the details, how would you classify

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Speaker 1: the overall quality of this draft and just the type

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Speaker 1: of prospects that are coming out strengths weakness is as

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Speaker 1: compared to some of the ones the last few years.

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Speaker 1: What a fascinating draft, John, in terms of blue chip prospects,

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Speaker 1: because I think, even up until the jail and Carter

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Speaker 1: unquote blue chip prospects. You had the four quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: after that the guys from five to fifty. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got such an evenly grouped class of prospects. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's why the Chicago Bears felt comfortable sliding

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Speaker 1: down from one to nine, because hey, they could still

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Speaker 1: potentially get a guy like Jaalen Carter, or they're gonna

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Speaker 1: at least be guaranteed a top five player on their board,

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Speaker 1: because I do think the quarterbacks will get pushed up

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Speaker 1: the board. Offensive tackle is another position John that always

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Speaker 1: gets pushed up the board. Ironically enough, I don't know

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Speaker 1: an interesting one too, because I think it's very deep

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Speaker 1: if you think you can get one of these guys

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Speaker 1: on the come around on day two. I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna come off the board early, fast, furious, and one

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Speaker 1: other position. I will mention that does vode well for

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Speaker 1: the Giants. I haven't. I can't remember a tight end

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Speaker 1: That's how deep the tight end classes. Yeah, look, and

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Speaker 1: you hit a bunch of spots we're gonna talk about here, Rick, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's start corners. We'll start there, And I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: And he came out there. He played great man coverage.

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Speaker 1: remember Koons? I think it was a Virginia Tech transfer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And you know again, Jalen Hyatt from Tennessee, A lot

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Speaker 1: But you're just getting a guy who runs fly rounds,

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Speaker 1: Work sounds like someone that's gotten into a lot of

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Speaker 1: that have gone in the first round, right. I like

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Speaker 1: the one name you mentioned, Marvin Mims. I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: plan for him, and he's just had a bad luck.

426
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the luck has been created by himself. I want

427
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: to find out. I haven't sat down with the young

428
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: man and had a conversation with him, but I know what,

429
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: when he's on, he's on, and you mentioned downs to

430
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: me he's a little bit too wiry. He's a small,

431
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 1: you know, thin guy. I understand the skill set, but

432
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 1: to me, maybe Din a time or test as well.

433
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: I still think Tank Dell out of Houston has tremendous

434
00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: separation ability and because he ran on four or five zero,

435
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: he might go early day three. Now to me, that's

436
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 1: a tremendous value. Pictrey Palmer out of Nebraska, he might

437
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: have the biggest hands in this year's draft, and he's

438
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: fast as lightning. And Ronnie Bell I thought, you know

439
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: he coming off that injury, he was kind of under

440
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: the radar. He was one of the fastest timed players

441
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 1: down at the Senior bo I think he hit like

442
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: twenty two twenty three miles per hour on the catapult technology.

443
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: So to me, that's a young man to keep an

444
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: eye on. And I know we were going to talk

445
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: some sleepers later on in the draft, but I can't

446
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: contain my giving me what do you what do you got?

447
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: Elan Harris is getting drafted. My friend Oklahoma Baptist who

448
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 1: what huh? Remember the name Keelan Harris. I mean he

449
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: met with just about every NFL team out in Pasadena.

450
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: By the end of the week, the scouts were just

451
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: calling him Hollywood and I was pounding the table trying

452
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: to get him down in mobile with our good friend

453
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: Jim Nage. Keelan Harris, Oklahoma Baptist. He is a play maker.

454
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: Give me with tall, smaller guy. How does he play? Oh? Yeah,

455
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: he comes in. He's about six foot two hundred. He

456
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: can he can beat you deep, he can beat you underneath.

457
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: He can do a little bit of everything. Very sneaky

458
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: route runner, very dependable hands, and again just create separation

459
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 1: in short area spaces. I mean, nobody could guard this

460
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: young man and one on one drills and that to

461
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: me is the ultimate Littmitz step. When you are when

462
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: you were constantly schooling the opposing cornerbacks and one on

463
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: one drills and they can't cover you, That to me

464
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 1: tells me there's something special about him. I'm gonna throw

465
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: a couple of these day two. I think, who are

466
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: outside receivers at you? Sort through him? For me? Who

467
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: do you like why I already mentioned a couple of them.

468
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice is one. We mentioned him. You could talk

469
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: about him again if you like through at Perry in

470
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: the mix though, Tyler Scott from Cincinnati in the mix

471
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: and know a lot of people really like him. And

472
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: then Matt Landers, who I thought was really interesting when

473
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: I watched him out of Arkansas. Give me those four

474
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: guys and how you kind of would separate them and

475
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: if you think the r day two guys and if so,

476
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: why Yeah, hazel Wood and Landers from Arkansas kind of

477
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: did stand out to me. I like what they can

478
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: do after the catch too. And maybe he didn't test

479
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: as well, you know, the Cincinnati wide receiver again, I

480
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: think people were expecting him to be one of the

481
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: faster guys, and he can stretch the field, and I

482
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: think he brings that size speed element. I think he

483
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: played he's quicker, quicker than fast, right, He's got better

484
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: game speed than maybe time speed. So I do like him.

485
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: Ah Perry, I think great route runner for a guy

486
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: of his size. All he does is get to open

487
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: make big plays, big catch radius. So you'll like that,

488
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: and I think that's what the Giants need to trendon

489
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: is getting some of these bigger body pass catchers that

490
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones could feel fake safe throwing the ball too.

491
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: And so you know, I'll throw another guy out there

492
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: that we had, Joseph Nagata from Clemson, six foot three

493
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: and a half, about two hundred and five pounds, runs

494
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: into more mid four five range. He was moving at

495
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: a different speed at the All Star circuit. He played

496
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: him both PA Bowl and the Shrine Bowl. Thought he

497
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: had a tremendous week. How about Mitchell Trubisky, Not Mitchell Twisky, Mitchell, uh,

498
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Penn State. Um, uh, Parker Washington

499
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: you talk about No, no, no, no, there's another he

500
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: transferred from Western Kentucky. Mitchell. I think it's another team.

501
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: It's slipping my mind. Uh he Mitchell Tinsley. Okay, I'm

502
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna say, if Mitch Trubisky is back in the draft

503
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, that'd be pretty damn impressive. He

504
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: might need to re enter the draft. But yeah, this

505
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: Mitchell Tinsley. You know, I went out. I went out

506
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: to Happy Valley back in August, and the coaching staff said, hey,

507
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, we love Parker Washington, but we really think

508
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: Mitchell Tinsley is kind of a one A, one B

509
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: type of situation, and I think I think he may

510
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: have led the nation in receiving the year before at

511
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky catching the ball from Bailey's appey. Now he's

512
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: another guy that he can play outside, he could play inside.

513
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna be moved pre snap motion guy. You see

514
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: a lot of that proliferation into the NFL, right these

515
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: college offenses that pre snap movement. Mitchell Tinsley's one of

516
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: those guys. You get the ball in his hands in

517
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: space and watch him work. All Right, any of the

518
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: wide receivers you want to throw out there, Rick, Before

519
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: we move on to running backs, I mean, we got

520
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: to show some love to andre Yoseiva's right from Princeton

521
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: to the crazy guy right down the road. I mean,

522
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: when's the last time a Princeton player was invited to

523
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: the Senior ball. I mean, that was great to see

524
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: and and I think he did well too. He did

525
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: did he did? He held his own former track standout.

526
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: And um, I will say this one other guy talk

527
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: about a big body pass catcher out of UCLA. If

528
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: you weren't weren't up on the Late night Jake Bobo.

529
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: This guy's got sized, he's got what you call sneaky athleticism,

530
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: and he really emerged. I thought as Dorian Thompson, Robinson's

531
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: number one target, and I think he transferred. He might

532
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: have came over from Colorado. Chip Kelly really worked the

533
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: transfer portal to his favor this past year. I thought

534
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: his biggest fine was Jake Bobo, and I can't find

535
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: a lot of love out there for him. I think

536
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: he's a draftable guy. I don't know if he gets

537
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: chosen or not. I'll throw one other guy, Justin Shorter

538
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: from Florida. Another one I thought to me was maybe

539
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver at the East West Shrine Bowl

540
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: all week long. And then Tyrone Scott from Missouri State.

541
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: Here's a guy who wasn't invited to any All Star Games,

542
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: but was invited to the Combine. I believe Missouri State

543
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: Tyrone Scott. He's a guy in the draft community that

544
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: is gaining a lot of bus. All right, let's go

545
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: to the running back class. Wreck. We haven't mentioned that yet.

546
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: They have Sake Giants have Sacon Barkley on a franchise tag,

547
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: so it's only under control for one year. They liked

548
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: him to be here longer. We'll see if they could

549
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: work something out. But in the meantime, you try to

550
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: feature proof of yourself at these positions, right, and if

551
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: you're get to do that a running back, I think

552
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: this is a great draft for it. We know about

553
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson, I mean, I mean, I would doubt the

554
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: Giants will go there at twenty five, or maybe he's

555
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: not even getting there. I don't know, but he's wonderful.

556
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: You know, Jimmy or Gibbs is really good. I don't

557
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: think he's getting to the Giants in the second round.

558
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: I think he'll be well off the board. Then anyone

559
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: else that you would put close to those top two

560
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: guys that you think would be off the board for

561
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: the Giants with their second round pick before we dip

562
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: into the guys that you that you like. No, I

563
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: think you know to me, Bijon Robinson, for whatever it's worth,

564
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: is a top five player in this year's draft, and

565
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me quite frankly, in ten twenty years

566
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: from now when we look back at twenty twenty three

567
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: NFL Draft class, when we say, hey, Bijean Robinson was

568
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: the best player in this draft class. Why did we

569
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: overthink it? I think there's a little bit of that element.

570
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: So to me, you've hit the nail on the head

571
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: though Gibbs. I don't think there's a huge drop off

572
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: either between Robinson and Gibbs. I do I want to

573
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: be surprised if Gibbs goes in the first round. I

574
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: don't think it'll happen. I do think it'll be off

575
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: the board before fifty seven and then after that. You know, listen,

576
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: ty j Spears Greenway, he is just growing on me.

577
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: I know he's only like a buck eighty five soaken wet,

578
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: but man, his explosiveness, this change of direction, his vision.

579
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is the goods. I really like

580
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: what he brings to the table. Now you want to

581
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: go opposite end of the spectrum. I just talked about

582
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: the UCLA wide receiver, the running back Zach sharbon Ay.

583
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: I mean this guy is a clone of James Connor

584
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: when you watch him. So if you like a big,

585
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: bruising between the tackles type of runner, and you know

586
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: you're there at pick eighty nine or one twenty eight

587
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: and you can get a guy like Zach sharbon Ay,

588
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's a tremendous value. I mean,

589
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Chase Brown at of Illinois, this guy is gonna go

590
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: day three. I think he has starter potential totally at

591
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: the next level, I really do. I mean, Chase Brown

592
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: is a tough, hard nosed runner, can keep it between

593
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: the tackles, can cut it outside if he needs to be.

594
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: But he can't get any love in the national media.

595
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the running backs don't get love overall. Period.

596
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: You want to go a little bit day three. Mohammed

597
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Abraham from Minnesota is going to outplay a lot of

598
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: these guys that get taken ahead of him. But he

599
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: does have a kind of shopping list of injuries, right,

600
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a quite extensive. So he might

601
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: be a late round flyer. But if this guy is healthy,

602
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he could really play a big time role.

603
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Sean Tucker again from Syracuse. If you want, if you

604
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: want the body clone of say Kuon Barkley, Tucker's got

605
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: these huge thighs, right, you might you might confuse him

606
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: from say Kwon Barkley if you put him in a

607
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: big blue uniform. His thighs are big, they're thick, they're powerful.

608
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: He didn't exactly have the season that I would have

609
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: liked to see. But I'll tell you what, he's got

610
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: that track background, he's a big, powerful back. And one

611
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: other guy, Chris Rodriguez. I had a chance to talk

612
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: to the Kentucky running back coach out at the combine.

613
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: He just gushes over Rodriguez from Kentucky. Now he was

614
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: suspended to start the season, So again, you got to

615
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: do your homework there off the field, and again let's

616
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: shine the light on some guys in our own backyard.

617
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: He just had his pro day this week, Owen Right

618
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: at a Monmouth I'm going to continue to tout his

619
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: praises because he is a four down player who's played

620
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: all four special teams units, and my opinion, is the

621
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: best short yardage runner in the entire draft. And I'll

622
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: throw the Nevada kidata. But to me, Owen Right, what

623
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: do you have sixteen touchdowns in ten games? You need

624
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: two yards to get you three? You need three yards,

625
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: He'll get you three. Now you know if you need

626
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: four yards, Johnny, he's only gonna get you three. That's

627
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: where Owen Right bring us to the table. Though he's

628
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: he's a really impressive looking running back. Yeah, and Rick,

629
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: what I like about the running back class too? You

630
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: know you you know we talked about the wide receiver class,

631
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: right this only like five nine, five ten guys that

632
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: are one hundred eighty pounds and they run around. This

633
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: running back class. You could check the boxes. Man, you

634
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: got a smaller guy like Spears. You want a big guy,

635
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: all right, Go go go draft Roshan Johnson out of Texas,

636
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Go draft you know Evan Hole out of Northwestern. You

637
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Speaker 1: know it's Kenny McIntosh. You want somebody that can do

638
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, catch the ball, go draft him.

639
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: Eric Grays another one of these kind of mid sized

640
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: guys that I thought looked really good at Mobile. You know,

641
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: there's a no matter what you're looking for flavor wise

642
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: in the running back position, you can find one up

643
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: and down this draft board, rounds one through five, one

644
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: through six. Yeah. I'll throw a deuced vawn in the

645
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: equation there too. I'll talk about different shapes and sizes, man,

646
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Holy cow. Yeah, and I mean for the for the

647
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: listening audience at home that might not know five foot five,

648
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy nine pounds for deuced vawn. But

649
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: he definitely plays bigger than the size. And I like

650
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: the Kenny McIntosh. I know he only ran I think

651
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: four to six two, but I think you're right. He

652
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: brings a lot to the table, can do a little

653
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: bit of everything very well. Yeah, and he mentioned you know,

654
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: that's like Darren Sproles all over again, dude one. Yeah,

655
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: A smart head coach will find the way to use him,

656
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a pain in the ass to

657
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: game plan for for teams in this league for like

658
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: seven eight years. It just is one of my personal

659
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: favorites in this year's draft, no doubt question. All right,

660
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: let's stick on offense. It'll go a little along here, Rick,

661
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: but I think it's great information. I like you throwing

662
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: all these little school guys in there, like people really

663
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: gravitate towards these names, which is great. Let's go to

664
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: offensive line. But once the Giants don't need an offensive tackle.

665
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna ask you about those guys unless

666
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: you want to throw like a Day three sleeper in

667
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: that they could develop because they could use a swing guy.

668
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: So why don't they go there first? Give me a

669
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: guy that you could draft to develop as a swing tackle.

670
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: Maybe on on Day three of this draft. How about

671
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: a Tyler Stein out of Alabama. He has some tackle experience,

672
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: he has some good length, has the size to play tackle.

673
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: I know some scouts prefer him to kick inside at

674
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: the next level, but I'll tell you what. Alabama just

675
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: had their Pro day this week, and I think Tyler

676
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Steam is gaining some steam. And I think at the

677
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: at the worst case scenario, you have yourself a very

678
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: very solid starting guard. At the best case scenario, you

679
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: have a guy who could develop into a starting tackle.

680
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: Was like a David Deal type of guy. You're talking

681
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: about one. Yeah, And I'll tell you one guy who's not.

682
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 1: He's not an inside outside guy, but he reminds me

683
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: of Charlie Villa Wineva and Ryan Sobota. I was down

684
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: on the field at Virginia Tech about five or six

685
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: years ago. There was this true freshman starter at left tackle,

686
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: six foot nine. I said, who the heck is this

687
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: jolly green giant. It's Ryan Sobota. Now he almost died.

688
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: If you remember Corey Stringer, he had almost the same

689
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: exact incident with Okay, he transferred to UCF to be

690
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: closer to home. Now he's all one hundred percent healthy,

691
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: he was playing left tackle at Pasadena at six foot nine,

692
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: and he has the band and the athleticism to stay there.

693
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: I talked the scouts, this is charlie Villewenevo, Ryan Sobota,

694
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: remember the name at tackle. In terms of a guard,

695
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: I'll give you a late round guy again that is

696
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: probably gonna get drafted on Day three, coming to the league,

697
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: develop into a starter and last a decade. Side Sal

698
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: from Eastern Michigan. This guy has shaped like a refrigerator

699
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: now John, and he can move some bodies. And I'll

700
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: tell you what. At first glance, I wasn't a big believer.

701
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: As I studied him more and more and scouts started

702
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: talking him up, and I got a chance to see

703
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: him in action side Sal from Eastern Michigan as a guy.

704
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: But Cody Mark, I think at fifty seven from North

705
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Dakota State might still be on the board for Big Blue.

706
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: And I could live with him on the outside. I

707
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: could live with them on the inside. I perform probably

708
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: at the guard, but I think he'll get every opportunity

709
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: to compete at so I would. I would also throw

710
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: Nick Broker from Mississippi into the equation because up until

711
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: this year he started his entire career at tackle. Now

712
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: he kicked inside this past year, but he has the

713
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: potential to do that. Brandon Counsel from Auburn is another

714
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: guy that our offensive line coaches loved out in Pasadena.

715
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: So you know, those are just some names to keep

716
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: an eye on there. You know you mentioned Cody Malok

717
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: and I think what's insitioning about him? And I'm let's

718
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: dip into this category. Now, Giant Sea the center, it

719
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: might be the most glaringly on their roster. Nick Gates

720
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: moved on, John Fliciana moved on. They asked him in

721
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: house veteran Ken that he's been knowing that has been

722
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: a natural player at that position, per Se. So I

723
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: guess do you think mal can move in and play

724
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: some center? He did it at the Senior Bowl a

725
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: little bit. And who else? And who else do you like?

726
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: Its center and Ken? What would be the sweet spot

727
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: for some of these guys that you think could step

728
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: in and maybe even started center in year one? Yes,

729
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: center is a underrated position in this year's drafting. You

730
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: might see two of them go in the first round.

731
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: Joe Tipman out of Wisconsin, who's got athleticism, He's got

732
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: a strong anchor. He's another one at Pro Day that

733
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: that really showed incredible strength. I thought to combine with

734
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: the athleticism. So the taller center two six six, Yeah,

735
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: it's very very rare that you see these bigger centers

736
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: because John Michael Smith's comes in at six foot three

737
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: and a half. Steve Avila, who I think is more

738
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: of a guard a center, I know he's listed at center.

739
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: We got to change our big board. He had the

740
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: draft bible. Avila is a guy he could play all

741
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: three interior spots, which I think bodes well. He's got

742
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: great upper body strength. His lower body needs development. But

743
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: Stephen Avila is a guy that has starting potential. Now

744
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I got a cheet code at the

745
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: center position, so I'm not drafting one early on and

746
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: for what it's worth. I like John Michael Schmidts, I

747
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: like the grappling, I like the state wrestling championship background.

748
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer how that translates to the next level.

749
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: But to me, John, I'm waiting. I'm waiting because I

750
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: know that somewhere in the middle rounds I'm gonna take

751
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: John Gaines from UCLA and John Gaines is one of

752
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: the most cerebral and versatile offensive linemen in the entire

753
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: NFL draft. If you talk to the UCLA coaching staff,

754
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: this guy is so smart. He's like a coach on

755
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: the field. He started at all five positions. I truly

756
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: believe that his best spot is at the center spot.

757
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: And he did so well for us in Pasadena, the

758
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: scouts urged him to go to the East West Shrine Bowl.

759
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: John Gaines, remember the name. He's going to start for

760
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: a very very long time in the National Football League.

761
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: And to Shaun Manning. To Shaun Manning, he's a cancer survivor.

762
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Transferred to Kentucky. This past year. He's played guard, he's

763
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: played tackle. The coaching staff there told us his best

764
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: center will be at center again because of the cerebral awareness.

765
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: Great names. No one it brought young gains up to

766
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: me yet say this is why we haven't work on

767
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: you learn new names. Line. Now, I gotta go and

768
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: watch him all right, let's slot to the defensive side

769
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: of the ball. Giants can still use some help a

770
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: defensive tackle or interior or defensive line. You know, five

771
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: technique guys, things like that. Dexter Lawrence he's gonna be

772
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: hopefully here a long time. You have another year on

773
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: that contract. Leonard Williams only his one year left. They

774
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: just signed Nacho Nunez Roches Nuniez New Year's Roches part

775
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: of me from the Ten Bay Buccaneers. But they could

776
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: use some depth there, Rick, I don't see it the

777
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: value at twenty five, to be honest with you, But

778
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: who do you like a little bit later on in

779
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: the draft that could kind of be that, you know,

780
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: run stuffer helper on the interior that defensive line. Well,

781
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, if Leonard Williams is on

782
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: his final year, Nazzie Smith from Michigan maybe not getting

783
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: enough first round buzz at twenty five, would you consider

784
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: him at twenty five? I would? I really would. I do,

785
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: because I do think that you can never have enough

786
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: offensive lineman or defensive lineman, right and if you're trying

787
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: to keep up with the Joneses and in your own division,

788
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is stacked at the at the offense and defensive lines.

789
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: They've got depth for days. And that's the team you're

790
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: trying to knock off the mountaintop of that division. So

791
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: do you see pass Rushwood Smith because when I watch him, uh,

792
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: you know he was on Feldman's freaks list, right and all.

793
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: He I don't think Michon. I don't think he's worked

794
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: out of Michigan's Pro day yet, right, I'm not sure

795
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: when that's coming up. I don't think he's I don't

796
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: think he did, or maybe he did. If so, I

797
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: didn't see any numbers he didn't work out at the

798
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: combine or no, I don't know. I don't think. I

799
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: don't recall seeing Michigan's Pro day just yet. No, I

800
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: don't think so either. But either way, when you watch

801
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: the tape, I you know you want to see, Oh yeah,

802
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: I see the I see the freakishness. I don't see

803
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: the freakishness. Now. What I do see is a guy

804
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: that literally will take an offensive lineman that's blocking him,

805
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: move him aside, and then go make a play. But

806
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I see that ability to kind

807
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: of get up field, and I worry about drafting a

808
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: guy I don't see the pass rush ability from in

809
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: the first round. You know what I mean? No, I

810
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: hear you allowed him clear right, because you want to

811
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: see the athleticism matchup to what you're seeing on film. Now,

812
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's exactly what Michigan wanted him

813
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: to do on a basis right, So like, I'm not

814
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: going to penalize him for that. I do think that

815
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: there's the potential, right if you tap into it and

816
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: need to use them in that kind of capacity, you

817
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: can use them situationally. I do think he can, though,

818
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: be a very effective edge setter against the run. He

819
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: chases down the ball carriers. He got a high motor.

820
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: He really gets after it. And if you're just looking

821
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: for a big body who can move and give your

822
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: solid play, which again at you know, i'd have him

823
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: here at six foot three three twenty three there. Yeah,

824
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: there's not too many guys that you're gonna find that big,

825
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: that physical, that can move like that. I'll tell you

826
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: one of the biggest tragedies of the NFL scouting combine

827
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: the fact that Scott Matlock at a Boise State was

828
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: not invited to the NFL scouting combine. I mean, what

829
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity by the NFL, because all this guy

830
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: does is anchored the middle of the defensive line. There

831
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: from Boise State the Broncos, he was unguardable at Pasadena

832
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas at the East West Shrine Bowl. Scott

833
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: Matlock from Boise State is going to start in the league.

834
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: He wasn't even invited to the NFL scouting combine. John

835
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: p J. Mustafer from Penn State coming off the injury.

836
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: This guy again he talked about up here, right, that

837
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: means a lot. James Franklin, the head coach of Penn State, said,

838
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: when PJ. Mustafer has done playing in the National Football League,

839
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: he's got a guaranteed coaching spot reserved for PJ. Mustafer.

840
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: That's how much he thinks of this young man. And

841
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: I think people are sleeping on him because he's coming

842
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: off the injury, might not have tested great. I'll give

843
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: you another guy, Corey Dirden, North Carolina State, the transfer

844
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: from Florida State. Inside outside versatility. He's played pass rusher,

845
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: he's played defensive tackle again. Another guy that can move

846
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: very well, three hundred plus pounds, very athletic for his size,

847
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: has a little bit of nasty to him. Day three.

848
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: Guy gonna outproduce some of the players chosen ahead of him.

849
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: All right, take linebacker anyway you want. Rick. Yeah, I'm

850
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: not a big fan of the linebacker class. I don't

851
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see any first round guys Trent and

852
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Simpson out of Clemson for whatever. Where his worth is

853
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: probably the guy there I'll give you again. I'll give

854
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: you some guys that you're listening audience might not be

855
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: familiar with. Mohammed Daiabadi from Utah again not invited to

856
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: the NFL scout and Combine unbelievable, very raw. Okay has

857
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: to work on his instincts. But when I'm telling you,

858
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: this guy flies to the football stuff the gaps, can

859
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: be a very very effective player as a linebacker against

860
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: the run. Muhammed Dayahbadi, this guy's a lump of clay.

861
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: He can be molded into a starter at the next level.

862
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: I think, body, I have him. Let's see, I'm gonna

863
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: pull him up here for you on the fly, die

864
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: a body I have at six foot three and three

865
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: eighth and just two hundred and twenty nine pounds, John

866
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: I got him in the four to five five range,

867
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: eighty inch wing spen it's winspan out of Utah, just

868
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: very raw, but extremely athletic. And then Isaiah land out

869
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: of Florida, A and M. I think it's a guy

870
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: who will best be served as an off ball linebacker

871
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: at the next level. Now at Florida A and M,

872
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: he was asked to get after the quarterback and he's

873
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: he's probably I don't know, he's six two, two thirty

874
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: maybe something around there. I'm not sure he has the

875
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: size to live on the edge at the next level.

876
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: But he's another one that flies to the football. I

877
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: think would be a very very good off ball linebacker

878
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: and maybe the third or fourth round Isaiah Land. You know,

879
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: I think people all over the place on the edge

880
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: rushers in this class rook to be honest with you,

881
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, Will Anderson seems to be the concessis number one,

882
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: but I know some people that really like Tyree Wilson

883
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get into real messy area

884
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: after that. To me, the Miles Murphy's to be Joji Lorries,

885
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, and you know the Will McDonald's, and these

886
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: guys are all different shapes and sizes too. So how

887
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: do you kind of break down that, like next couple

888
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: tiers of edge guys that you know could fit a

889
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: Wink system that's pretty versatile, does a lot of different things.

890
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: And you know, we saw him, and you know Baltimore

891
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: for example. Have you know Jason Oway at a Penn

892
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: State who didn't have much production but was you know,

893
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: super fast than us And maybe you're talking about the

894
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: kid out of Georgia then, so how do you then

895
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: break down that that that kind of set of edge guys?

896
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: And because I really do think you kind of have

897
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: to get one by round three if you want a

898
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: guy that that's going to be a real, you know,

899
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: impact player in the league. Yeah, if you want an

900
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: immediate impact guy, you're gonna have to get one in

901
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: the top twenty or even really the top ten. And

902
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Will Anderson is that guy, right. And I know that

903
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: there's a small fraction of the scouting community who had

904
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: some concerns at least coming into the combine about his

905
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: size and his frame. Could he live as a forty

906
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: three defensive end. I still think standing him up as

907
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: a thirty four outside linebacker is going to be your

908
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: best bet. But I mean, listen, he can drop back

909
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: in coverage now too, and isn't too bad doing that either.

910
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean there's really very few, if any flaws to

911
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: Will Anderson's overall game. So he is the consent And

912
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Jonathan Gannon, for whatever it's worth,

913
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals are picking at three. Will Anderson

914
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: just makes so much sense to play that Hassim Reddick

915
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: role for him. Now, Tyree Wilson. If you want a

916
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: traditional forty three handing the dirt defensive end, Tyree Wilson

917
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: is that dude. And there are some guys that do

918
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 1: have them on ahead of Will Anderson in terms of

919
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: their big board in the league. So those are the

920
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: guys I think, you know, to your point, the way

921
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: you break it down, like Keyon White out of Georgia

922
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: Tech and and Will McDonald at Iowa State, I think

923
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: these guys are developmental edge rushers where you got the size,

924
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: you got the athleticism. I mean, McDonald's got that crazy twitch,

925
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: that bend, I mean, move man, who dude, I mean

926
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: he contorts his body, remember Gumby and Pokey. I mean

927
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: he's doing things that, Yeah, you just can't teach some

928
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: of these things, my friend. And so to me, that's

929
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: the allure of a Will McDonald maybe catapulting himself and

930
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: to your point, like Drew Sanders out of Arkansas, right,

931
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: he's been asked to get after the quarterback he's been

932
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: asked to play some offball linebacker where the teams like

933
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: him at the next level. Uh, Nolan Smith out of Georgia,

934
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: I think is gonna get bumped inside the top ten

935
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: just on the athletic traits to ten. And you saw

936
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: you saw the same thing happen to his teammate last year,

937
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: right Trayvon Walker. People didn't really think about talking about

938
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: this guy, the number one overall picked on in the season.

939
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: And then you get Nolan Smith who was kind of

940
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind, and again you're trying

941
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: to project and create an edge rusher. Well, hey, Nolan

942
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: Smith's got all the tools in the shed. That's a

943
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: guy I want to work with and try to create.

944
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: So he might not have necessarily done it at Georgia,

945
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: but he's also playing with a bevy of talent that

946
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: is using the rotation. He's coming off an injury. But

947
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: if you're just saying, hey, I just fell on to

948
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: Planet Earth, I need myself and an athletic pass rusher,

949
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: this guy looks the part. Let's try to mold the

950
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith into an edge rusher. I can get on

951
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: board with that. Yeah, And I'll tell you what b j.

952
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: Thompson out of Stephen F. Auston is a guy and

953
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: Caleb Murphy out of Ferrish State. Two guys Day three.

954
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: You need to know Baldonado. I gotta show some love

955
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: to my pison. Moved from Italy. I think his junior

956
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: year of high school very raw, really game. Baldonado got

957
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: that raw explosiveness. One of the fastest first steps in

958
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: the draft. Baldonado out of Pittsburgh and then Titus Leo

959
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: right here in Staten Island. You know, he was not

960
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: even on the national Lord the Blessed though John so

961
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: I took the scouts. They said, what do you know

962
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: about the kid from Wagner. I said, he's a legit player.

963
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: He's good. He's a good player, man. But you know what,

964
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: teams didn't even make the journey because scouting services didn't

965
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: have him ranked. But anybody, and I know, you know

966
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: with the Northeast Conference, he's one of the best pass

967
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: rushers I've seen come through that conference and quite some time.

968
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: And so I think he's another guy that people are

969
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: sleeping on. Yeah, and look, he hits all the benchmarks

970
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: two for size, right, he's like six four, six five,

971
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: He's two fifty. He will. He will check all the

972
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: boxes from an athleticism standpoint, absolutely all right. Final position

973
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: GROUPIEREK is safety where we didn't think the Giants would

974
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: have ANIBA would Julian Love going to Seattle and signing

975
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. Look, they have some guys there. They

976
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: directed Dame Belton last year. Jason Pennock was was good

977
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: in a filling role this past season. But do you

978
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: think Brian Branch might get the twenty five because he

979
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: didn't run too well at the combine. I think his

980
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: his field work though in Indie was phenomenal. He's so fluid.

981
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: I know he's kind of one of these hybrid slot

982
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: safety guys. And who else do you like at that position? Yeah?

983
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: I think the last mock I had Branch coming off

984
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: the board to the Packers, who I think choose before

985
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: the Giants. So I think it's fifty fifty as to

986
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: whether Brian Branch will be there, and I think he

987
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: is probably the top safety. He could play in the box,

988
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: he could play center field, he can play a little

989
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: bit of everything they can play. Yeah, you can move

990
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: him around. His physical to that point. Chris Smith out

991
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: of Georgia does a lot of very similar things, not

992
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: quite as big. So maybe that's a guy on day

993
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: two that they might look at. I'm still a big

994
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: Here's a question real quick, I want to fall up

995
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: on Smith. Do you think he's forty time might push

996
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: him to day three? And then and then by the

997
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: way his his his pro day work out, he did

998
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: some of the agility stuff that was kind of a

999
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: disaster too. Do you think he might get pushed to

1000
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: day three? Because I loved his tape when I watched him,

1001
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I thought he was really

1002
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: good on film. Yeah, I mean, I think he's a

1003
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: good football player at the end of the day. To

1004
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: your point, yeah, I think there might be some skepticism

1005
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: that could hurt him in his draft stock. And you know,

1006
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: he didn't run a great time, But I don't think

1007
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: he ran a terrible time either. I just think that,

1008
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, these guys get bigger, stronger, fasters every year,

1009
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: John that when they don't run an eye popping time. Oh,

1010
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: what's what's going on? What's wrong? Well, you know, he's

1011
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: just a good football player, right, So that's that's where

1012
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: I fall on Chris Smith. But yeah, to your point,

1013
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: could he slide to eighty nine potentially. I will say

1014
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: one of the bigger safeties I like in this Antonio

1015
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: Johnson out of Texas A and M Well, there are

1016
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people that love that kid. Man fast, physical,

1017
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: flies to the football, can get his hand on passes,

1018
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: six ft two hundred pounds, size, speed, athleticism, Antonio Johnson,

1019
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: I think after Branch might be your best bang for

1020
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: the buck. And I think he could be had on

1021
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: day two. So I think, you know, at safety. I'm

1022
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: a big fan of City Brown. You know I was

1023
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: going to ask you about him. I love him too,

1024
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: man boy, but he is rocked up by the way

1025
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: he is, like he is ready to go. Man, These

1026
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: Brown boys, the Canada invasion, the Canada boys taking a

1027
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: league by So I'll tell you that Sidney Brown, I mean,

1028
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: how do you not like this young man? And I'll

1029
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: tell you what this Marte Mappoo from Sacramento State, Oh

1030
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: my god, Nico Bolden from Kent State. Remember these names,

1031
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Marto Mappy, Marte Mappoo. I'm still learning the name. You know.

1032
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: He was trending towards a mid round pick. He got

1033
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: injured at his pro day. But he is a chess piece.

1034
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: He could play linebacker, he could play safety. I'm gonna

1035
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: give you another guy, John Michael Ayers out of Ashland, Okay,

1036
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: started at safety, actually came as a wide receiver cornerback,

1037
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: bulked up about forty fifty pounds, walked on to Ashland.

1038
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Tors acl is a senior in high school. Scouts came

1039
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: in in the spring, timed them in the four five

1040
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: range as a linebacker. Sky's the limit for Michael Ayers

1041
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: out of Ashland. Might play him at linebacker, might play

1042
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: him at safety. I think he gets drafted. Nico Balden

1043
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: is a lengthy athletic kid out of Kent State. Look

1044
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: out for the Patriots. They usually have their finger on

1045
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: the pulse with these Kent State guys. I don't know why,

1046
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: but Nico Bolden out of Jason Taylor, the second from

1047
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, is a guy to keep an eye on.

1048
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: And he could play safety, he could play corner. But

1049
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: this guy's all over the football, great coverage guy. And

1050
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: then I'll tell you what. JR. Brown from Penn State, TREYE.

1051
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: Dean from Florida. They did run that sentence forty times,

1052
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna hurt their their draft stock significantly.

1053
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: I think I think it made Trey Dean a mid

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a potential top one hundred pick

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Speaker 1: still will stack him into that category as a potential

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Speaker 1: to thirty Rick. Awesome stuff, man. Great to have you.

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Speaker 1: As always, we're in a sprint now. We're under five

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