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Speaker 1: It's time to get out the chopboard and diagram some plays.

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Speaker 1: Here's what it all starts right here. That's why Jamney Chris,

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Speaker 1: this is Inside Football with former Colts and to NFL

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Speaker 1: coach Rick Venturie. The two twenty two NFL Draft is

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Speaker 1: in the books, and the Indianapolis Colts came home with

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Speaker 1: we're here today to break it all down, talk some

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Speaker 1: X and os on Inside Football with Rick Venturi. I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, but the man you came for is mister Venturi,

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Speaker 1: former Colts and NFL coach and Colts radio analyst r V.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, my men? Have you managed to emerge

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Speaker 1: I really haven't a matterfact, because I like a lot

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Speaker 1: the funny thing is is I have no buyers remorse.

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Speaker 1: I you know, you know, particularly that first three guys.

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Speaker 1: Smith was bigger, but they were my five and six.

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Speaker 1: everything else about him, the competitive nature, smart guy, like

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Speaker 1: So I mean, in a sense, he's not as long

429
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Speaker 1: as Anthony, but he's a better athlete. Now, they have

430
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Speaker 1: same pluses and same minuses he has. He has that

431
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Speaker 1: ability to move in space to get out and get

432
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Speaker 1: with a fast guy. What he has to really learn

433
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Speaker 1: how to do, and Anthony had trouble periodically in his career.

434
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Speaker 1: He's got to learn how to anchor up when a

435
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: guy gives him speed to power and then comes right

436
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: down the nose. That's where he's got to learn how

437
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: to anchor up. And they'll, you know, they'll do that

438
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: right away. But this kid has the skill set to

439
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: be your long term left tackle, and so he'll be

440
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: in a battle right off the bat with Prior. You know,

441
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: Prior will have the experience, and frankly, I think because

442
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: of the rawness of Raymond, he probably is going to

443
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: take a little while, but in the end he will

444
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Speaker 1: pass Prior because of athleticism. And you think that might

445
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Speaker 1: be later this year or perhaps next offseason, Like, how

446
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: do you how do you see that this year? I

447
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: think all three of those guys. I think all three

448
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: of those guys affect us in twenty two because I just,

449
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: and I don't get me wrong, I like Prior. If

450
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Speaker 1: you were telling me that he was going to be

451
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: our right tackle, or you were telling me that he

452
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: was going to be our right guard Matt, I would say, fine,

453
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: no problem, replace him next year. But at left tackle,

454
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Speaker 1: I just I'm not quite as high as the Colts

455
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: staff is. That doesn't make me right, But I don't

456
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: think that he has to twitch and the quickness to

457
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: hang in there at left tackle against the guys he's

458
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna see week after weekend. I think he'll get exposed quickly.

459
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: And I hope, I hope I'm wrong totally. Now, don't

460
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I in no way do I want

461
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: to condemn it or anything else. But I think you're

462
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna need Raymond to come quicker than you'd like. All Right,

463
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: the last pick Friday, the Colts trade up. They grabbed

464
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Speaker 1: Nick Cross, safety out of Maryland. The Colts traded a

465
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick and next year's third round pick to

466
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Speaker 1: get him in A very physical player, another athletic phenom

467
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: that's been you know, the common denominators here. We've talked

468
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: about that four three forty, the fastest forty among safeties

469
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: at the combine thirty seven inch vertical one hundred and

470
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: thirty inch broad jump. Let's start here. How surprised were

471
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: you that the Colts traded up and gave up a

472
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: pick next year for him? And the other reason you

473
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: bring that up is again, quarterback continues to be the

474
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 1: biggest long term need for the Colts, and if they

475
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: fall in love with a guy next offseason, that would

476
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: have been ammunition for the Colts to trade up and

477
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: package something in order to get a quarterback. Now. I

478
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: know they can make that up in other ways, get

479
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: another pick in here between now and next offseason. I

480
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: totally understand that, but just the bold move to trade

481
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: up for a guy like Nick Cross. How surprised were

482
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: you in that regard for the Colts? No, I really

483
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: was surprised, And you know, I felt like that once

484
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Ritter was gone that to me, there was no more

485
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: intriguing quarterbacks. There was no sense to me for any

486
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: investment in that respect. That's just me, but I just

487
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody else great. I'm not even that big

488
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: on Willis, but I knew Picket would go in the

489
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Speaker 1: first round. I thought Willis might, but it was more

490
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: hype than anything. I thought Ritter was the most. I

491
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: think Atlanta had a has a real good selection there

492
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: because I think he can play behind Mariota for a

493
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: little bit, but I think he has really long term ability.

494
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: So once he was gone there, I was a little surprised.

495
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: Cross is a very interesting guy now. And I don't

496
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: mean this as a criticism because I really like Cross

497
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: and he will have an impact. I would have probably

498
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: taken Shakiir, the receiver out of boys here who Buffalo

499
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: ended up taking in the fourth round, and they packaged

500
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: up to get him. They gave they gave up draft

501
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: picks to move up to get him. But that was

502
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: just my own preference. I had him rated a little

503
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: bit higher than other people. But when they got Cross,

504
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: what they've done with Cross now and McLeod in the

505
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: off season. Is they've ensured really the safety position, you know,

506
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: both in depth or if they have to play, you know,

507
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: as good as Blackman is, and I think he's got

508
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: stardom written all over him. If he's a little bit

509
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: in and out early or not quite rare, you've got

510
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: a guy like McLeod who has played ten years in

511
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: this league at free safety, who is a legitimate NFL safety,

512
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, I can you know, you know, I talked

513
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: to a little bit about that last week. And then

514
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: you know Willis has kind of been banged up a

515
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: little bit, and Willis is more that strong safety thumper

516
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: cover the tight end guys. And so what you did,

517
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: You went out and got Nick Cross. Okay, who's that

518
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: same kind of guy. So you know you have now

519
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: depth and you have competition. Now what I always thought,

520
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I always wanted my fourth pick, whether it was a

521
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: late third or a fourth round guy, I always wanted

522
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: that guy. I wanted the first three guys to be

523
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: able to impact us in two thousand and twenty two,

524
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily at the same levels, but I

525
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: always felt like your first three draft picks should be

526
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: on the field to some degree. And making some impact,

527
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, maybe not always starting, but an impact that

528
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: I always on my fourth pick, I always wanted a

529
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: guy who I considered a specialized starter, you know, somebody

530
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: that was a little bit different devalued position like a fullback,

531
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Speaker 1: maybe a tight end, maybe a slot, maybe just a

532
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: great special teams guy. And so I think cross again.

533
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: He is the freak of freaks at four three four

534
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: if it's unbelievable the Olympics that we win here, and

535
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: he is a thumper. So he brings two things to

536
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: the party. Okay, at safety he brings a vertical speed.

537
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: He's very a linear athlete. He's not a great change

538
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: in direction guy, but he can flat fly and he's

539
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: purposeful and he will take your head off. He is

540
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: really a thumper. So I think what you got there

541
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: early is you got a guy that can play strong safety,

542
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: can battle for that position, but also can fill in

543
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: like at a dime linebacker, Matt, you know, certainly special

544
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: teams with that kind of speed and thump, you know,

545
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: just gets better and better. So I think you have

546
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: a very specialized guy there who you know will provide

547
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: us instant depth. And there's something interesting there I'd like

548
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: to say to the fans is that this was a

549
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: unique year. I mentioned it to you in passing in

550
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: our eight hours of coverage, is this was the sneaky

551
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: position in this draft was safety. And one of the

552
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: things that you're seeing. We always talk about evolution at

553
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 1: receiver and quarterback and all that. I'll tell you what

554
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: you're seeing. You're seeing the evolution of a much better athlete,

555
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: much better, much faster guy now in college at safety.

556
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: You know, in the old days, safeties were guys that

557
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: you either had a big at strong safety on the

558
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: in the box, and then you had a kind of

559
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: a ball hawking free safety. Not necessarily a great athlete,

560
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: but a ball hawk guy. Well, now, be cause of

561
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: the spread and the zone reads and the quarterbacks that

562
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: run the option and all that stuff, your safeties now

563
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: have to be much much better athletes coming out. And

564
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, cross, I think, if I'm not mistaken, you

565
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: can check me on this, but I think of the

566
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: like the top seven safeties, I think four of them

567
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: ran faster than four to four and only one of

568
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: them ran over four or five. Now that is amazing,

569
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we were normally talking about four

570
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: six five guys here, you know what I'm saying, and

571
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: so I think that position in general is changing. And

572
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: of course, like I said, Cross brings linear speed and thump. Yeah,

573
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: he is a very physical player guy with a lot

574
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: of upside. So that was Day two of the draft.

575
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Four players drafted on Friday. Let's move to Saturday and

576
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: talk about Day three and kind of go rapid fire.

577
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: Here we got. In the fifth round at one fifty nine,

578
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: the Colts picked up Missouri State defensive tackle Eric Johnson,

579
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: and round six, one ninety two it's Youngstown State tight

580
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: end Andrew Ogletree, who's also a former wide receiver. Also

581
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: in the sixth round Cincinnati defensive tackle Curtis Brooks. And

582
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: then in the seventh round, two thirty nine overall Yale

583
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: cornerback Rodney Thomas, who also played linebacker in safety at

584
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: college there in the IVY League. Rick, which of those

585
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: players intrigued you the most? Which of those guys has

586
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: the highest ceiling for you? Well, you know, the two

587
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: tackles are very very interesting and they will come in

588
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: and provide us with depth, you know, losing a stalwarth

589
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: the woods, all those guys that were you know, really

590
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: just play matts. For us in that sense. I mean, uh,

591
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: you know you had you had Grover and Buckner and

592
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: then you would you know, throw in Lewis or or

593
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: or dang Boat really on third down. So you know,

594
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: you were those guys were depth guys and they were gone.

595
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: And this is what I talk about replaceable parts. And

596
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, nobody does a better job of that than

597
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Chris that second and third day, Johnson was a Morse

598
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: Reservoir All Star. For me, he was a kid I

599
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: really like. I think he has a big upside. Now

600
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Johnson at six five three hundred runs a four eight seven,

601
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: So I mean he's he's another freak. I mean in

602
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: that sense, you know, and basically the other thing, and

603
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: this is very obvious in the draft. Not only does

604
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Chris demand you know, metrics at every position, he also

605
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: really he really likes players that go to bowl games

606
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: and play well and practice well in the bowl games.

607
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: And Colts do a really good job. You're talking about

608
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: those All Star games, right, the Senior Bowl, the NFLPA Bowl, right.

609
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: You know, Lara did a really great job with the

610
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: Woods interview, and it really came out. It had escaped me.

611
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it. But the Colts had two

612
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: coaches in that East West Shrine game, and they had

613
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: him in there for a whole week. And I know,

614
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: I've coached the Senior Bowl three times. There is nothing

615
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Matt like being in the room with a guy for

616
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: a week. I mean, it's just that that's better than

617
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: a workout. That's better than anything. And they loved him,

618
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean and and and and he liked them. I

619
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: mean it was it was really amazing. So I think

620
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: that week was big. Johnson played in the NFLPA Game.

621
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: He played so well that he got the invite to

622
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and he went down there and really

623
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: held his own. UM with all the top guys. You

624
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: have to bring some of the practice tape out there.

625
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: He has twitch. Uh. He's a guy that's played a

626
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: five technique, a three technique. Uh, he can move. I

627
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: would say right now he's a little bit better run

628
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: defender than PAS defender. But he has twitch. Um. I

629
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: think he is a lot very much um like Stewart

630
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: coming out. Uh. You know they came out of small schools. Uh,

631
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: Stewart has emerged, you know as a top tier nose tackle.

632
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: I think you're you're looking maybe for the same thing

633
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: in Johnson. I see a lot of the same qualities.

634
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: And then Brooks was kind of a sleeper for me.

635
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't I hadn't really done a

636
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: lot of work on Brooks. And you know, he's he's

637
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, he's not very big. I mean,

638
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: that's that's if he has an issue, you know it.

639
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: He's two eighty five at six two. You know which

640
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: is which is the size? Grady Jared is. He just

641
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: got fifty five million dollars extension at Atlanta. But he

642
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: is a freak of freaks. I mean he runs a

643
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: four nine thirty five and a half vertical thirty three

644
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: bench presses four four four in the short shuttle. That

645
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: is phenomenal and basically, uh Luke Fickle said has gone

646
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: on record as saying that Brooks was the best player

647
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: on that defense. And they got half their team draft, right,

648
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean the Cincinnati nine guys drafted you know, Georgia

649
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: to half fifteen and set a new record. Is one thing.

650
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle and Cincinnati, you got to take your hat

651
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: off of them. Now, nine kids drafted in this and

652
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: two of them to us. But when I went back

653
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: and looked at him because I am looked at him

654
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: a lot. This is a guy now that is really active.

655
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: He's a little bit office Johnson. If Johnson is maybe

656
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: a better run player, this kid can get to the

657
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: passer and so he might have that specialized spot interior

658
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: wise with Buckner or Spelling. He has seven and a

659
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: half sacks and they're all interior sacks. That's a big deal.

660
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: You know. I think sometimes I don't think that we

661
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: really give sacked numbers and totals enough credit at the

662
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: college level because most guys, like the frendies in the mathis,

663
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: if you go back to their career, they were twenty

664
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: sack guys as seniors, they had like twenty sacks. This

665
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: kid has seven and a half sacks. I mean, he

666
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: is nifty. I'm not gonna put him in Grady Jarrett's category,

667
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: but he reminds me of him. Now, if you go

668
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: to Ogletree, Ogletree is really just he really is Gilannie

669
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: Woods just one step, one step behind him. That's it.

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00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: He's a instead of four sixth one, he's a four

671
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: five one. Or I'm sorry, he's a four seven one.

672
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's six five. But he's another guy

673
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: that looks like an NBA power forward. You know, small

674
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: school kid, started somewhere and then ended up at Youngstown State.

675
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: But he had He was the MVP of the Hula Bowl.

676
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: And if you go back and you watch that performance,

677
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: he's another guy that can get down the seam with

678
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: all that range, he's he can walk the edge. Uh.

679
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: He makes a couple great adjustment catches in that Senior

680
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Bowl to win the MVP. So, you know, all of

681
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, like I said, our tight end, our tight

682
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: end room looks like an you know, you know, a

683
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: G league or an NBA power forward league. Yeah, they're in.

684
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: They're in the Big Ten. They're playing Wisconsin on Saturday.

685
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it is unbelievable. And they're and they're you know,

686
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: they're and they're they're talented. I mean, I you know,

687
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: I think Ogletree is talented. I think he was a

688
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: really good get you know, you know again, thirty five

689
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: vertical jumps, you're talking four or five two shorter shuttles.

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00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: He's just a hair a hair behind, He's just a

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00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: hair behind Woods in everything. But he's still top drawer numbers.

692
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Was so again, and I think the ball game had

693
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot to do with that again, because you see

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00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: what you want to see is those smaller school kids

695
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: when they go to the ball game. How did they

696
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: respond playing next to all those guys from the Southeast Conference.

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00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: It's a big ten. We always had a rule. I

698
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: always had a rule in my own head is never

699
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: downgrade a kid in a bowl game, but always have

700
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: the ability to upgrade him if he shows or something.

701
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: And then the kid from Yale, here's what I'm hoping. Okay,

702
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: this was shocking to me. I hadn't watched him, to

703
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: be honest with you. So I go back and watch him,

704
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm looking at a guy

705
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: that's four or five one on our team. On this team,

706
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: four or five one is like flow. Okay, this guy's

707
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: six six, but forty one in s vertical, which means

708
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: he's explosive. Now, this is mind boggling. Four point zero

709
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: two short shuttle. Now that's that's close to a world record.

710
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I think I've only known two guys that have ever

711
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 1: been under three. So this guy is a quick cat now,

712
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: and he's got some production. You know, he's played linebacker,

713
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: he's played corner, he's played safety, I like that. I

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00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: like those numbers, you know, me at four five one,

715
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: I like it as safety depth. But I think he's

716
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: a guy that can play nickel um. I think he

717
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: can find certainly special team's role. And you know, whoever

718
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: is doing our northeast scouting, I mean I'm saying to myself,

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00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, a year ago, on that last round, all

720
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we come up your kid like Rodgers.

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00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: You know who is you know, who's definitely a starter

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00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL and who had great speed. I mean,

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00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, he I always thought I've always said this,

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00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: and Chris, I don't know if he'll get mad at

725
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: me or not. I always say the best corner that

726
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: he's ever drafted as Rogers. And the reason for it

727
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: is Rogers was four three six, So he never you know,

728
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: he's fast, he can outrun his mistakes, and he never panics.

729
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: That's why he doesn't get penalties. He does never panic. Well,

730
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we got a kid up in Yeah,

731
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Speaker 1: we got him in the same area that's running a

732
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Speaker 1: four or two short shuttle. So you know, and you

733
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Speaker 1: know he's smart enough for God's sake. So so anyway,

734
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, so I mean again, you gotta you know,

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Speaker 1: I look at it and there's really nobody I don't like,

736
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Speaker 1: you know, And like I said, those two tackles are

737
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: depth guys, but they're very, very athletic. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: they run, they run below five flat. When you get

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Speaker 1: linemen that are at five flat or below, you know,

740
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: which every one of our guys is. I mean, that's

741
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: pretty special, you know. And then our skill guys, my god,

742
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, for their position. Like I said, I guess

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00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: we've ranked number one. You had that interesting stat on

744
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: Jelaney during the ye in your draft rass rating, and

745
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: now I saw the final rass rating and we're head

746
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: and shoulders are Our eight selections are head and shoulders

747
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: better than anybody else. And so you know, when you

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Speaker 1: add a very vibrant draft class like this, I think

749
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Speaker 1: with the top three guys who I think can be

750
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: starters in during the two twenty two season, and you

751
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: add three game changing free agents, uh, you got to

752
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: feel really good about this team. I mean, I think,

753
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, and it starts with the quarterback. But the

754
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: areas that we had to fix. We had to get

755
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: better at passing the football, which means quarterback receivers, protection,

756
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: all those things, and we had to get better at

757
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: stop in the past, which is scheme with a defensive staff,

758
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: which is, you know, a cornerback that's better a rusher

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00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: who has fifty five sacks. And so you know, by

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00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: addressing all that in with this influx of young talent,

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00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to feel like you're really positioned

762
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: to go. You know, I pick up the paper today

763
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: and I see the Tennessee quarterback because you know, he's

764
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: he's now in recovery with a psychiatrist and he won't

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00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: help Willis. Did you see that? I mean, so not

766
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: not his job to be the mentor. Yeah, And you know,

767
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: and losing A J. Brown regardless of Burks, I mean,

768
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: if nothing else, it's a one for one swap. But

769
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: birth hasn't proven anything in the NFL. And A J.

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00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Brown was a colt killer. So got you lost AJ Brown?

771
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: You know you got it. You got a quarterback in

772
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: psychiatric care and he won't help the rookies. So you know,

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00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Tennessee is necessarily helped themselves too much.

774
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: And the other teams have helped themselves, and I think

775
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: particularly Jacksonville has, but they but they both have a

776
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: long way to go, no question about that. I mean, yeah,

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00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: they were picking first and third respectively in the draft

778
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: for a reason, and that's sure. I want to end

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00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: here with you and you kind of covered a little

780
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: bit because the bulk of the off season is in

781
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: the books. I mean, most of the major player acquisition

782
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: is done. Now you're you're still going to see undrafted

783
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: free agents. You're still going to see the Colts make

784
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: moves and supplement the roster. But now that we're past

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00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: the draft, Rick, what do you make of this roster?

786
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, how improved would you say the Colts are

787
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: now compared to that final game of the season in Jacksonville.

788
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: And they've been methodical about it, whether it's trades, free agency,

789
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, Matt Ryan came in in a

790
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: trade unique and gockway of trades to find Gilmour and

791
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 1: free agency, Brandon facing some other supplemental moves. But now

792
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: the draft with impactful guys, especially past catchers at the

793
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: top and Alec Pearson Gilanni Woods, how much of a

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00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: better spot are the Colts in right now? I guess

795
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: put a number on a one to ten, ten being

796
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: that the best spot they can be and where are

797
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: they now compared to at the end of twenty one.

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00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: I think they're an eight. Okay, I really think they're

799
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: an eight, maybe maybe an eight plus. And I guess

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00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: that's just a conservative nature of me. I can't I

801
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: couldn't be happier, not because we do the cold games,

802
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: just because you know, I'm a freak personnel freak, coach freak.

803
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier at what has happened in this

804
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: franchise since January ninth, you know, two thousand and twenty two.

805
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I think that this roster was always a solid roster,

806
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: but it was a solid roster for the most part,

807
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: from the middle to the end. That's why our special

808
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: teams are good. You know, Chris has always done a

809
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: really good job on a second and third day. Where

810
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I thought we were lacking to take the next step

811
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: was in that top ten players on the roster that

812
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: affected the game, that had that were playing makers that

813
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: can affect the change of the game. And I think

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00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL, as much as the roster is important,

815
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: the top ten guys make it or break it. Now,

816
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: to me, the six acquisitions that we've made quarterback Edge

817
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: Rush cornerback, top flight explosive outside receiver, top flight explosive

818
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: tight end, and potential left tackle. To me, those are

819
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: top ten game changing acquisitions. So you look at a

820
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: tackle and you don't think of it as a game changer,

821
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: but he's a game changer if he can keep a

822
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: defensive end at Bay. So I believe where the improvement

823
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: was necessary. And as you said earlier, you didn't necessarily

824
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: see a path to this. But Chris has done a

825
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: terrific job in putting this together. And I think that

826
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Speaker 1: we have added six impactive And that's not to take

827
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: away because there's a lot of good people like McLeod,

828
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: like the rest of those draft picks. Don't get me wrong,

829
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good people. But I think six

830
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: guys that can be difference maker in the season, and

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00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: to me, that puts you in contention. Now, that puts

832
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: you in big time contention. So again, I am, I am,

833
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not. I'm gonna say I'm surprised, but

834
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Speaker 1: I'm really pleasantly surprised that it's gone as well as

835
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: it has for us. Yeah, pleased in the methodical and No.

836
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: Number one I mean and No Number one draft picks.

837
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, we lose sight of that.

838
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: We talk about we're really excited about our drafts, and

839
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: we did it without a number one. Sometimes I really believe,

840
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: in course Chris has been the master of the twos,

841
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: But sometimes I think the sweet spot in that draft

842
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: is always that second round, in that high three. I just,

843
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, because there's just something about at that point

844
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: you don't get as concerned with the image of the

845
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: pick or the number of the pick you get and

846
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: you and you're there's more guys that are equal in

847
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: the second round, and you can afford to take a

848
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: need guy a little bit more there than maybe the

849
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: first round. And I think that's always what provides that

850
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: second round with a lot of good players. All right,

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Speaker 1: RV wonderful, wonderful breakdown as always. So we've got again

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Speaker 1: the bulk of the offseason. It's in the books. Um,

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Speaker 1: when are we going to hear from you again? What

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Speaker 1: are you gonna be up to here? Well, the coach

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Speaker 1: is limited right now. I'm going on the injured reserve list.

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Speaker 1: I I have been fighting a bad knee for months,

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Speaker 1: and you know, after we had so much fun over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, it just went out on me and so, um,

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Speaker 1: I am gonna. I am gonna have a knee replacement

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Speaker 1: on May twenty sixth um. So you know, not a

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Speaker 1: lot of motorcycling this summer, a lot of us rehab

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Speaker 1: so that when we you know, we convene there uh

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Speaker 1: in August. Uh, i might be a little limited to

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Speaker 1: start with, but I'll be ready to go. Yeah, you'll

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Speaker 1: be ready to go. Ice rest and relaxation. That's doctor's orders,

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Speaker 1: right there, my man. Well, hey, best of luck. We'll

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Speaker 1: be thinking of you, and if you need anything, don't

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Speaker 1: hesitate to reach out. And if I don't talk to

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Speaker 1: you between now and then, a happy Memorial Day coming

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Speaker 1: up at the end of May. You two, Matt, Really,

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that weekend. We had a good time together. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: That's Rick Venturi. I'm Matt Taylor again. This has been

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Speaker 1: Inside Football diving in to the twenty twenty two draft.

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Speaker 1: The Colts come home with eight players, impactful guys for

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Speaker 1: next season, and as always, we thank you for listening

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