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Speaker 2: This is Zaire Franklin, linebacker the Anneapolis Colts, and this

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Speaker 2: is the NFL Report. Welcome back to the NFL Report,

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Speaker 2: James Palmer, Steve Whitch with a new addition in that

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Speaker 2: Zaire Franklin, and we have one of his teammates, another

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Speaker 2: member dominant player on this Colts defense, one of the

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Speaker 2: best slock corners in all football. Kenny Moore is kind

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Speaker 2: of joining the show. We'll also have Cameron Wolf and

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Speaker 2: Jane Slater breaking down the Dolphins Cowboys game. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if anybody knows those two teams better than those two, Steve.

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Speaker 2: We also have Brian Baldinger breaking down a number of

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Speaker 2: players that maybe are flying under the radar that you

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Speaker 2: need to pay better attention to. And also the coach

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Speaker 2: David Saw talking about a couple of quarterbacks as Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurt's broken.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Coach Shaw will tell us.

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Speaker 2: I do have an opinion on that, And Steve, I'm

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Speaker 2: rocking green because this is our final show before Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll be rocking green on the sidelines,

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Speaker 2: but I'll be part of the NFL Network Holiday Classic.

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Speaker 2: We're calling it on Christmas Eve in Denver, Broncos hosting

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Speaker 2: the Patriots. I bought a new coat. It will be

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Speaker 2: extremely cold, but it will be a blast to be

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Speaker 2: Sherry Burst.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be brilliant.

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Speaker 4: Hey, a JP, you are like the king of coats, right,

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Speaker 4: you know? Last week on NFL Game Day preview and

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Speaker 4: Sujan we broke out in your your Tom Ford or

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Speaker 4: Tom Fraud whatever it is looking jacket. But it was

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Speaker 4: absolutely clean.

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Speaker 3: That bad boy was hot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, streets that looked absolutely clean. But we've got so

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Speaker 4: many important playoff type games this weekend, which you have

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Speaker 4: all kinds of playoff ramifications in JP. It all starts

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Speaker 4: on Christmas Eve, Monday night with the Ravens and the

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Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers. Let's generate the hype machine,

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Speaker 4: roll the tape LC.

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Speaker 3: Ravens at the sixteen yard line. Lamar wants to throw

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Speaker 3: lops of the end zone, looking.

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Speaker 4: First man he's gone on Isaaiah likely touchdown?

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Speaker 5: They snap at thirty hundred seven seven step Drop gets

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Speaker 6: We'll throw on the run wide open.

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Speaker 7: McCaffrey makes the Cats goes down, gets up touchdown, see

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Speaker 4: The Niners radio with a great cod right there. It

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Speaker 4: is always good to hear from Greg. But JP again,

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Speaker 4: we know how domin these are the two best teams

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Speaker 4: in each conference. They can say this is in a

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl preview. It sure does look like a Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl preview. So let's start with the offenses. With these

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Speaker 4: great offenses, which player or which unit is going to

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Speaker 4: be most impactful in this game?

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Speaker 2: We both had this answer, and then I think you

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Speaker 2: may be changed, And that shows me that we both

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Speaker 2: believe we've got at Jackson is the most important player

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Speaker 3: Nothing against Brock Purty.

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Speaker 2: He's actually my front runner for the MVP, But the

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Speaker 2: Ravens without Lamar Jackson are nowhere near where they are

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Speaker 2: right now. If he's not out there because of what

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Speaker 2: he does in the run game, what he does in

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Speaker 2: the past game, obviously, but what he can do for

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Speaker 2: he's just an X factor.

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Speaker 3: Steve. I just think he's the.

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Speaker 2: Most important player to either team in their future moving forward.

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Speaker 2: And I look at what the forty nine ers have

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Speaker 2: We're watching highlights of him get eight and then go down.

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Speaker 2: These long, sustaining drives they had against the Jaguars in

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with Eric Harmson. But he loves

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Speaker 2: If they're thin in that sense, he can affect this game,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, in just a lot of different ways, and

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see because this late in the season.

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Speaker 2: There's been some talk about this Niners defense being a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they still don't give up a lot of points.

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Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey. But this is a team like even if

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Speaker 4: look at the big games and the big opponents. Against Dallas,

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Speaker 4: so they carved him up with Kittle. So then you

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Speaker 4: And that's what I think is gonna happen. Here. Talked

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Speaker 4: This is a total fifty to fifty toss up. But

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Speaker 2: Man, I you know, I think it might be the

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, I think that's an extremely important aspect of

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Speaker 3: Obviously, George Kittle, as you.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned, and then you have to maybe make those impacts, Steve,

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Speaker 2: because your secondary is gonna have their hands full with

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Speaker 3: Decisions back there to go to the unit that you

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say this this, uh, these linebackers with

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and say it's Fred Warner and

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Speaker 4: Drake Greenlaw. They're great in coverage, they've got the speed,

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Speaker 4: both can spy Lamar Jackson, who you pointed out.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 4: But JMBF, we don't have a ton of time left.

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Speaker 4: We do know it's a holiday weekend, all right. We

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Speaker 4: do know it's it's Christmas time right here. So which

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say delivering the goods is Jalen Hurts. He's

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Speaker 3: These last three.

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Speaker 2: Games are the easiest schedule in the NFL for the

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Speaker 2: They have to get explosive plays back. They have to

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Speaker 2: eliminate the turnovers. Jalen Hurts was the best quarterback the

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Speaker 2: terms of throwing the football, making the correct decisions. Teams

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Speaker 2: It's his decision making in those I want to see

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think the dude who's been in

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Speaker 4: they're playing the Chargers. Yeah, that's been a real stand

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Speaker 4: He can be delivering the goods in the screen game.

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Speaker 4: Oh No, he's gonna be spreading cheer for his Buffalo

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Speaker 4: he's a distraction. Let's Josh Allen get going very quickly, James,

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Speaker 4: we are tight on time. What team is gonna play

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Houston Texans fan, But the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: defense goes likely going against case Keenum. Listen, they are

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Speaker 2: And I know if this happens real quick. We'll say it.

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Speaker 2: If they lose the Houston Texans, their chances of the

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Speaker 3: If they win seventy two. If they lose thirty percent,

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Speaker 3: that could be a grinchable move by the Browns.

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Speaker 4: How about you, Steve, I am staying within the division.

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Speaker 4: I think Baker Mayfield and those Tampa Bay Buccaneers, oh

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Speaker 4: are going to send the Jacksonville Jaguars back to Whoville.

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Speaker 4: Will They'll be singing the blues of the Who's And

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Speaker 4: because look, Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers just playing very

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Speaker 4: good football, complimentary football on both sides. The Jags might

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Speaker 4: This could just be a situation and where the Buccaneers

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna sit here and again talk about Whoville

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Speaker 4: another big game coming up in our next block, and

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Speaker 4: With all due respect, with all due respect. That was

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Speaker 4: of the weekend between the Dolphins and the Cowboys. And

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Speaker 4: Jane coming into this game. We saw the Cowboys last week.

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Speaker 9: That's something that they've been sort of struggling with.

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Speaker 10: Your thoughts, Yeah, I think the Dolphins know that the

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Speaker 10: I think this past game they played against the Jests

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Speaker 10: But here's what I know they made a late switch

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Speaker 8: And when you're meeting a team, it's so bad. And

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Speaker 9: That, it's typically successful.

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Speaker 10: Well, absolutely, Jane, it's going to be seventy eight degrees

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Speaker 10: Eventually they're going to have to throw you the ball,

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Speaker 4: Hey, with all due respect, I wouldn't just really real play.

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Speaker 9: Don't know necessarily what they're going to do.

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Speaker 1: Jane briefly, if I could come in.

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Speaker 10: I'm very just to see where Michael Parsons lines up

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, guys. I cannot waite

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Speaker 2: to watch this game. I love that you both gave

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Speaker 2: Jane knows the Cowboys, better than Cam knows the Miami Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: and James said, a fast start by the Cowboys, and

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Speaker 2: with all due respect, they're brilliant at what they do.

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Speaker 3: But you know who else is brilliant. We love you, guys.

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Speaker 2: It's Kenny Moore of the Indianapolis Colts. Maybe he can

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Speaker 2: let the Dolphins know what it's like guarding somebody like

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts, are in the thickest things in the.

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Speaker 4: Mondays and Thursdays on the NFL app and free streaming

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Speaker 4: platforms on the NFL Channel on Roku, twov, Peacock, Pluto TV,

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Speaker 4: and other free streaming apps.

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Speaker 2: Young in the pocket throws it up, feel picked off

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Speaker 2: by the Colts on.

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Speaker 4: The near sideline. Kenny Moore racing for the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Ten five touchdown. I indeed, why pick six by Kenny

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Speaker 4: Moore play action. Bryce Young throws it left side and

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Speaker 4: it's picked.

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Speaker 6: Off by the Colts.

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Speaker 4: They're running the other way with it. It's Kenny Morigan.

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Speaker 2: He's at the thirty twenty fifty to ten five touchdown,

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Speaker 2: two of them today.

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Speaker 4: A pick six number twenty three. Have a day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome back to the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Moore joins us one of the best slock corners

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Speaker 2: in all of football.

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Speaker 3: They always get love on our show, Kenny. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you know this. We love the position on.

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Speaker 4: The Corner show for it.

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Speaker 3: We love to have you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's better the pick sixes or the

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Speaker 2: dance after the first one. But what I'm really curious

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Speaker 2: about is we're going back home to Georgia for the

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Speaker 2: first time.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 2: Two things, how many tickets did we have to get

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Speaker 2: and what would a pick six back in the home

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Speaker 2: state of Georgia be like on Christmas Eve in front

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Speaker 2: of all those people.

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Speaker 11: First off, great to be here, Thanks for having me

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Speaker 11: on the show. Yeah, I had to get about twenty

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Speaker 11: five tickets for the fan, friends, coaches, everybody involved. So ready,

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Speaker 11: I mean, it would definitely mean a lot to get

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Speaker 11: a pick sit So hopefully, you know, it's given season,

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Speaker 11: so hopefully we can get one.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Kenny, I'm sure to be great to get I'm

474
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Speaker 4: sure it'd be great to get a pick six, But

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Speaker 4: you guys are in the thick of the wild card

476
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Speaker 4: hunt right now. I mean to get a win and

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Speaker 4: to further establish yourself in the playoffs. Like how big

478
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Speaker 4: would that be? Because this already has been a pretty

479
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Speaker 4: special season for you guys.

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Speaker 11: We've come close a couple of times in my career

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Speaker 11: of you know, getting the South Division of the AFC,

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Speaker 11: and it's no better time than now. So we have

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Speaker 11: the team, we have the position in the AFC to

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Speaker 11: go and take it. So each week it's a big

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Speaker 11: game because we in.

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Speaker 6: It, Kenny.

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Speaker 2: Since week nine, there is only one team that has

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Speaker 2: a better record than the Colts at five and one.

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Speaker 2: It is the forty nine ers at six and zero.

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Speaker 2: This stretch that you guys have been on of late,

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Speaker 2: what would you put your finger on? It just seems

492
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Speaker 2: like the hunger's there for you guys, and it feels

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Speaker 2: like when I talk to people in ain't Ablos, you

494
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Speaker 2: still don't think you're where you believe you can get.

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Speaker 11: As a team, well, we just have the humility knowing

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Speaker 11: that we never got it. They stay on us, as

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Speaker 11: the coaching staff stays on us. We got the kind

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Speaker 11: of within the team to know that we just got

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Speaker 11: to keep working each day to get the results that

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Speaker 11: we want. We just can't look at the bigger picture

501
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Speaker 11: of what could happen. The only way we win Sunday

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Speaker 11: is winning today and stacking the next day on top

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Speaker 11: of it.

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Speaker 4: Can you talking about the coaching staff and the accountability,

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Speaker 4: I mean change Stiking comes in there as your head coach.

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Speaker 4: There's clearly a flipping culture. There's clearly like a flip

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Speaker 4: in belief and positivity. But he also he kept your

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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator on staff, Gus Bradley. What about that tandem

509
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Speaker 4: has worked so well, especially for you guys on defense.

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Speaker 11: Probably the relationship. Prior to the Shane coming here, we

511
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Speaker 11: had already known that they had the relationship built in,

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Speaker 11: so we knew that we were a good foundation wise

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Speaker 11: to get the job done. We're all decided to play

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Speaker 11: each game and to play each game altogether.

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Speaker 2: I love what you guys do defensively, Kenny. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're not hiding anything in a sense that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: play zone.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna that's what Gus does. That's the way you

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Speaker 3: guys play.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious in your slot spot with the way you

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Speaker 2: do things schematically, what what is it that makes you

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Speaker 2: thrive in the way that Gus schemes things up for

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Speaker 2: you guys as a defense that allows you to make

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Speaker 2: plays and make plays where you're at on the field.

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Speaker 6: Well, great question.

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Speaker 11: You know, we went through a lot last year in

527
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Speaker 11: the first year of the system. Honestly, it was a

528
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Speaker 11: lot of humbling moments. We had to, you know, drill.

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Speaker 6: Up a couple of things.

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Speaker 11: We had to talk and have the communication to have

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Speaker 11: the success that we have this year. So, honestly, just

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Speaker 11: a lot of things that that's in our back pocket.

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Speaker 11: We had a lot of built up experience. So just

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Speaker 11: having the guys around, not only just me, but on

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Speaker 11: the D line and the linebackers and obviously in the secondary,

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Speaker 11: we just got a lot of build up experience.

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Speaker 4: Now, so you mentioned your D line, your linebackers. A

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Speaker 4: We're going to ask our producer to put up something

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Speaker 4: that the Cult Social team posted yesterday. Guys, go ahead

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Speaker 4: and post this. This is Dope the Forest Bufter six acts,

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Speaker 4: Quity Pay seven and a half, Samson will come nine

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Speaker 4: and a half, dood yingbo eight. What about that group,

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Speaker 4: because I'm below it it said they come at you

544
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Speaker 4: from all angles. What about that group makes it so special,

545
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Speaker 4: especially to you guys in the back end. That allows

546
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Speaker 4: you to get the takeaways that you've got.

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Speaker 11: Well, Russian cover works together and we got to put

548
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Speaker 11: it on the forest. Buckaner, I think he said he

549
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Speaker 11: was going to be taking the defensive backs dinner at

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Speaker 11: some point during this given season. So but no, but no,

551
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Speaker 11: those guys are hunting and they have great leadership in

552
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Speaker 11: Samson and Doyo and Buck and Grover to stay stay

553
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Speaker 11: on a group and they play with high energy and

554
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Speaker 11: we're so thankful to have a group like that that's

555
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Speaker 11: gonna make history here soon.

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Speaker 2: That's every every corner's dream is to have guys that

557
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Speaker 2: get after the quarterback. And when they get after him

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Speaker 2: as a group, it's always makes things a little bit

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Speaker 2: better for you back there, Kenny, And we can't have

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Speaker 2: you on and not talk about your quarterback. And Gardner

561
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Speaker 2: Midge you. He comes over with Shane Stich and Shane

562
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Speaker 2: knows him so well. What I have to ask is,

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Speaker 2: I've heard so much about his football, IQ, how many

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Speaker 2: what are conversations about football like with Gardner, especially with

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Speaker 2: someone that knows the game like you.

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Speaker 6: Know, the game.

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Speaker 11: Build up experience sort of like, you know, the build

568
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Speaker 11: up experience that we've encountered throughout the defensive side. But

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Speaker 11: just knowing Garner and throughout my career, I had a

570
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Speaker 11: chance to playing him a couple of times, and he

571
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Speaker 11: has the competitiveness. He wants to go out there and

572
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Speaker 11: fight and win each game. So he plays like a

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Speaker 11: starter and the starter that's been playing his whole career.

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Speaker 11: So just just having that poison competitiveness go out there

575
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Speaker 11: and win each game is going to keep us at

576
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Speaker 11: the top of the boards.

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Speaker 4: So Keaty you talk about how you had to face

578
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Speaker 4: him and now you know him as a teammate, before

579
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Speaker 4: knowing him as a teammate, Like, how did you have

580
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Speaker 4: to scheme him up? Knowing his strengths.

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Speaker 11: Was it was sort of a nat because you know

582
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Speaker 11: he can pull it down and run at some times.

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Speaker 4: So with a guy like that that you think is.

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Speaker 11: Going to just stay in the pocket, sometimes he fool

585
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Speaker 11: you and sometimes you know he can make those little

586
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Speaker 11: juke moves that you didn't think that he really had

587
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Speaker 11: in his bag. So just a guy like that, you

588
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Speaker 11: got to always be poised and then honeing in to

589
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Speaker 11: the point of a tech that you got to make

590
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Speaker 11: the play. So you just got to stay disciplined with

591
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Speaker 11: a guy like that because he can for you sometimes.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the game you goat coming

593
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Speaker 2: up here, it's against Atlanta. We know the type of

594
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Speaker 2: skill guys they have. They're built a little bit differently

595
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Speaker 2: right than some of the other teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: With the type of skill guys that they have. What

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Speaker 2: are your concerns from the slot spot that you have

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Speaker 2: to be aware of and you guys have to be

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Speaker 2: aware of as a defense to make sure you slow

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Speaker 2: this offense down.

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Speaker 3: That has now made another change at quarterback.

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Speaker 11: It's probably the change that quarterback is probably the most

603
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Speaker 11: interesting thing. You know, Obviously playing Taylor last year whenever

604
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Speaker 11: he was with the Commanders and sort of annoying him,

605
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Speaker 11: and you want to go down field and he want

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Speaker 11: to score. He likes the home run ball. He scored

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Speaker 11: a lot of touchdowns in college and then obviously in

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Speaker 11: the league.

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Speaker 4: He's a competitor.

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Speaker 11: So I think that's the type of rap that he

611
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Speaker 11: has around the league, is that you want to go

612
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Speaker 11: down the field and he wants to score, and he's

613
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Speaker 11: going to stay on me. So we just can't cash it.

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Speaker 11: In that these guys are going to give up. These

615
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Speaker 11: guys are out there and they want to win the

616
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Speaker 11: game just like us. So we just got to stay

617
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Speaker 11: stay on top and keep everything in front of us,

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Speaker 11: and then once we get our shot, we just gotta

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Speaker 11: go an attack anymore.

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Speaker 4: Man, we cannot thank you so much for one entertaining

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Speaker 4: us on the football field. We love we love how

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Speaker 4: you guys are playing and just surprising the whole NFL

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Speaker 4: doing the things that you're doing. We also want to

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Speaker 4: wish you and your family a very merry Christmas, So

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Speaker 4: thank you very much for joining us here at the

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Speaker 4: NFL Report. Yes, sir, Marry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Wall here, thank you, Welcome back to the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: James Palmer, Steve Whitch with you. It's our favorite Thursday segment.

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Speaker 2: I got my popcorn, It's Baldy's favorite film star version

630
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Speaker 2: of Baldy's Breakdowns. We just essentially stole it because we

631
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Speaker 2: love having them on and we love when he breaks

632
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Speaker 2: everything down and Baldy. A couple of weeks ago, I

633
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Speaker 2: did Broncos Texans down in Houston, and I spent probably

634
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Speaker 2: the vast majority of my time postgame standing next to

635
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Grenard's locker and him kind of breaking things down

636
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Speaker 2: for me defensively. Two things he told me, and I'm

637
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Speaker 2: curious what you think he said. We have been unbelievably

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Speaker 2: well prepared upfront in terms of the coaching we're getting.

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Speaker 2: And two, we have rushed as a unit upfront and

640
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Speaker 2: nobody really going outside in freestyling has been a big

641
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Speaker 2: part of our success. What are you seeing from him?

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Speaker 2: He's one of the best players under the radar right now.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I agree, Number fifty two, right end outside linebacker

644
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Speaker 7: for Houston. So I was last week Derek Henry ran

645
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Speaker 7: the ball sixteen times, he get nine yards. It's not

646
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Speaker 7: one guy, it's a group. It's a group effort, Bill Collins,

647
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Speaker 7: you look at Sheldon Rankins, you know, you look at

648
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Speaker 7: Denzel Peraman. I mean, whoever's been he healthy? Will Anderson

649
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Speaker 7: didn't play last week, but he's been a big part.

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Speaker 7: And you know, a big part of stopping the run

651
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Speaker 7: guys is run fits. And you know, when I look

652
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Speaker 7: at Demico Ryans and how he's coaching this group, like

653
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Speaker 7: you know, run fits basically is you're in the right gap.

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Speaker 7: You're in the right gap, You're where you're supposed to

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Speaker 7: be whether it's Jalen Petrie coming out of the safety

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Speaker 7: position and filling the gap whatever, Like this is a

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Speaker 7: team that understands run fits and they played defense on

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Speaker 7: the other side of the ball, and it's such a

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Speaker 7: group effort. And in fact, last week in Tennessee, like

660
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Speaker 7: I met the defensive line coach in Houston, James, and

661
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Speaker 7: like he appreciated some of the things that I do,

662
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Speaker 7: and I went and talked to Sheldon Rankins, Like this

663
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Speaker 7: whole group I think is flying under the radar, but

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Speaker 7: this is a very talented group. There's number two in

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Speaker 7: the league against the run. They're getting after the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: I think this is a if they get to the postseason,

667
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Speaker 7: it's gonna be a whole lot more than just CJ.

668
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Speaker 6: Stroud and winning the Offensive Rookie of the Year and Baldy.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about run fits, that's discipline

670
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Speaker 4: because a lot of times guys get greedy saying I

671
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Speaker 4: know I can jump inside and make this play. Next thing,

672
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: you know, the running back bounces outside. So being being

673
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Speaker 4: able to uphold the integrity is something clearly that defensive

674
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: staff has had them due. That defensive line better be

675
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Speaker 4: good this week. Too, because they're playing Cleveland in that

676
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Speaker 4: run game that they have with that Montes Sweat. We're

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Speaker 4: going to talk about Jalen Johnson a second. I want

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Speaker 4: to break this up because with Montes Sweat has been

679
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Speaker 4: able to do in Washington then jumping over to Chicago

680
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Speaker 4: and continue to get after the quarterback and play baldy.

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Speaker 4: How impressive of a player has he been this season?

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, Steve, you know, he leaves the

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Speaker 7: Washington Commanders in sacks and he leaves the Chicago Bears

684
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Speaker 7: in sacks.

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Speaker 6: Okay, he's got twelve and a half.

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Speaker 7: So I said when they traded for him, they gave

687
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Speaker 7: up a second round pick. I said, you're not going

688
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Speaker 7: to find Montes Sweat in the second round in this

689
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Speaker 7: upcoming draft. He's six six, two seventy. He still runs

690
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Speaker 7: a four four forty. A couple of things that.

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Speaker 6: Jump out Steve. One is a.

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Speaker 7: You can't block him, like he knows how to defeat

693
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Speaker 7: a block, and then his effort is contagious. And I

694
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Speaker 7: feel like Gervon Dexter and all these guys there, they're

695
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 7: all playing harder because of how Montes Sweat plays. And

696
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Speaker 7: by the way, one of the underestimated metrics when it

697
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Speaker 7: comes to defenders is literally arm length. He's got thirty

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Speaker 7: six inch arms, So he could be something as simple

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Speaker 7: as Stevens beat in the passing lane, batting a ball down,

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Speaker 7: throwing over his arms, making a tackle out there in

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Speaker 7: the perimeter. Like his length, it's more than just sixty six.

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Speaker 7: He's six six with very long arms, and he and

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Speaker 7: he uses all of his talent. And the best thing

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Speaker 7: is like he plays really hard and that's that's always

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Speaker 7: impressive to me.

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Speaker 4: So quickly ball. The benefactor of that has been the

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Speaker 4: quarterback Jalen Johnson. He's a good all year, but he's

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Speaker 4: really been special since Sweat's got there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no question.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's got the four interceptions and all that

711
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Speaker 7: kind of stuff, but like his ability to play zone coverage,

712
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Speaker 7: bait players like he had the interception against Josh Dobbs

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Speaker 7: of Minnesota. I think we talked about how he baited

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Speaker 7: them to throw the corner out and he jumped.

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Speaker 6: It like he's just he's he's playing the game like.

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Speaker 7: A crafty, wiley veteran. Now he's been in the league

717
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Speaker 7: for a while, but I think a lot of people

718
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Speaker 7: just thought, well, he's he's good in man covers, but

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Speaker 7: maybe not zone. But you know, since Superfolis took over

720
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Speaker 7: their zone team primarily, and he just can play any

721
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Speaker 7: style and he's got that that feel in the eyes

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Speaker 7: you go make plays on the ball, and it shows

723
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Speaker 7: up every week right now.

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Speaker 6: And even that, like you look at the young.

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Speaker 7: Players around him right now, they're all starting to kind

726
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Speaker 7: of play a little bit like Jalen and they got

727
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Speaker 7: you know, Tyreek Stevenson got a pick six last week. Like,

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Speaker 7: I just think the young guys around him are kind

729
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Speaker 7: of learning from Jalen right now.

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Speaker 2: Where's a young guy that's thriving in James Cook, the

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Speaker 2: running back for the Buffalo Bills Baldy. I talked to

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen after their game against the Chiefs, and he

733
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Speaker 2: just said, in the passing game, he's been taking advantage

734
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Speaker 2: of the attention that Stevon Diggs is getting and finding

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Speaker 2: some spots to make plays.

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Speaker 3: And then the run game.

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Speaker 2: Having a conversation recently with Dion Dawkins, he said, because

738
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Speaker 2: of the way he runs the football, he gives us

739
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Speaker 2: so much confidence as an offensive line because he puts

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Speaker 2: his foot in the ground that he goes and he

741
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Speaker 2: can run over guys and he can run by guys,

742
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Speaker 2: but he gets downfield.

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Speaker 3: What do you like about James Cook right now with

744
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Speaker 3: the way he's playing.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm going to create a family feud right now,

746
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Speaker 7: James and say that James Cook is better than his brother.

747
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Speaker 7: I know that's gonna that might not sit well in

748
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Speaker 7: South Florida with those guys.

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Speaker 6: But James Cook. You know, last week you mentioned the

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Speaker 6: passing game.

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Speaker 7: He gets matched up one on one with Damon Clark

752
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Speaker 7: and he beat him to the corner.

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Speaker 6: It was one touchdown pass at Josh Throe last week.

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Speaker 6: I remember, James.

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Speaker 7: We were there in Philadelphia a couple weeks ago with

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Speaker 7: Buffalo and Aaron Cromer down there. He was talking to

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Speaker 7: us and I was just asking him about James because

758
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 7: I said, listen, Aaron, coach Cromer. I was saying, what

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Speaker 7: I see on film? Is it the best footwork of

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Speaker 7: a running back that you've coached? And he goes, that's

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Speaker 7: that's his that's his calling card. Like his footworks, the ability, honestly, guys,

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Speaker 7: to be going, you know, one way on his own

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Speaker 7: stretch and then to make this cut in this ninety

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Speaker 7: degree cut, like right up the field and find the

765
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Speaker 7: opening like it's He's really good and they run this

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Speaker 7: counter trap with the tackle back and forth. They ran

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Speaker 7: a bunch last week Dion Dawkins and Benson Brown, and

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Speaker 7: that play can break anywhere. It's up to the back's

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Speaker 7: vision to see. It's not always around the corner file

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Speaker 7: of the tackle. It could be inside. So his decision

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Speaker 7: making and what he sees and where the hole is

772
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Speaker 7: is I think unique and one of the reasons why

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Speaker 7: he's at the top of the charts in rushing leaders

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Speaker 7: right now.

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Speaker 4: That's high praise of Aaron Kromer won the best offensive

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Speaker 4: line coach in the NFL. I mean, he had some

777
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Speaker 4: good ones in New Orleans, had Todd Gurley with Morams,

778
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Speaker 4: So that's real high praise for him to say that.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of run game, that has been a non existent

780
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Speaker 4: character trait of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to pass two seasons,

781
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Speaker 4: But lately Baldy under Dave Canalis Baker Mayfield and what

782
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 4: they're doing down there, they are running the rock. Well,

783
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Speaker 4: what are you singing on film down there?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's been a month now, Steve, and he's had

785
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Speaker 7: two hundred yard games and he's catching the ball out

786
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Speaker 7: of the backfield, and for the first time, the Bucks

787
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Speaker 7: have a running game. It showed up in Green Bay

788
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Speaker 7: last week in the Battle of the Bays. I see,

789
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Speaker 7: you know, Tristan Wurfs went from right tackle to left tackle.

790
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 7: It's like you know, eating, you know, eating chopsticks with

791
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Speaker 7: your right hand and learning how to eat chop sticks

792
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 7: with your left hand.

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Speaker 6: It's hard, but he's gotten better.

794
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Speaker 7: Aaron Stinny's come in there at left guard really I

795
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 7: think solidified that position. They've had the same five guys

796
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Speaker 7: up there now all year and they're really playing well together.

797
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 7: And I got to add the tight ends both Kate

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Speaker 7: Dott and Koke Keift. They're a part of this right now.

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Speaker 7: But I really like, for the first time in two

800
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 7: plus years, like they can legitimately run the ball. And

801
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Speaker 7: Rashad White, I give him his due here, Steve, like

802
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 7: he's really coming on and the dance that you got

803
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 7: to do is a running back with the offensive line

804
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 7: has come together.

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Speaker 2: By the way, fellow, this is me us quickly on

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Speaker 2: this last one, Baldy, Yeah, quickly, last one on this one,

807
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Speaker 2: because I got to get him in. Tarvarius Ward, he's

808
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: strangely targeted more than anybody any other corner in football.

809
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: It's probably because they're winning every game and you got

810
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: to throw the ball at some point. But he has

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00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: the pick six. This past week, he spent time in

812
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: practice Baldi catching passes from Sam Darnold because he wants

813
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: to catch passes from a quarterback, not a jugs machine.

814
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: What are you seeing from the corner and ward and

815
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do quickly well.

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Speaker 7: He had the two interceptions last week in the pick six,

817
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 7: but he leads the league in passes defense. Like you

818
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 7: want to go after him, okay, but like this guy,

819
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 7: whether it was against DK Metcalf the week before, like

820
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Speaker 7: he is a difference maker out there on the edge.

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Speaker 6: And the forty nine ers can play man coverage right now.

822
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 7: Used to be strictly his own team, but they can

823
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 7: line up and play man coverage and blitz and pressure

824
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 7: and do a lot of different things because Trevarios can

825
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 7: line up on your number one and he can. He

826
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 7: can play with you. I don't care who what the

827
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 7: name of the back of the jersey is. He's got

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Speaker 7: the confidence and the length at six ' one to

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Speaker 7: play any size receiver in this business right.

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Speaker 4: Now, bald you are the best. At anytime you have

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Speaker 4: a cornerback nicknamed Mooney, you know he's gonna be good.

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Speaker 4: Baldy having Mary Christmas, Man, appreciate your brother.

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Speaker 6: Mary Pachmas. Guy's always always great.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 6: Have a great holiday. I'll see you guys next week.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 4: Coming up next our coach David Shaw. He's gonna talk

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Speaker 4: about Jalen Hurts. Is there an issue with Jalen? One

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Speaker 4: of the best coach he's ever diagnosed quarterbacks? Is gonna

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Speaker 4: tell us next on the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's James Palmer and you're listening to the NFL

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Speaker 2: Report podcast along with myself and Steve White.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch

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Speaker 2: with you, joined by I'm gonna call David Shaw essentially

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Speaker 2: the coach of the NFL report Steve. He is our eyes,

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Speaker 2: ears and everything in terms of when it comes to

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Speaker 2: evaluating football him and always gives anybody else, always give

857
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Speaker 2: us great stuff. And we love to talk quarterbacks with you, coach.

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Speaker 2: And Monday night, we knew Jalen Hurts was under the weather.

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Speaker 2: We knew he has been battling a couple of things,

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Speaker 2: nagging injuries. But still the end of that game, they

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Speaker 2: have their timeouts. We've seen the Eagles at the end

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Speaker 2: of halves, at the end of games find ways to

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00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: put together really really successful drives in the way they've

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Speaker 2: done it, and this drive kind of left you scratching

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Speaker 2: your head a little bit in a couple instances.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me, guys, and

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Speaker 12: I'm with you there. I went back and watched the

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Speaker 12: game again, and when you really watch it with a

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Speaker 12: close eye, for a guy who's banged up, for a

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Speaker 12: guy who's sick, Jalen Hurts really played a good game.

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Speaker 12: He's playing a lot of zone defenses. He threw some

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Speaker 12: tight window throws, he ran the ball well swift the bowl.

873
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Speaker 12: It really started to become difficult in that the late

874
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 12: in that third quarter, early in that fourth quarter, they're

875
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 12: up seventeen to gosh, seventeen to thirteen, they should have

876
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 12: been up twenty one to thirteen.

877
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: They had a third and one inside the ten yard line.

878
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 12: It's a guaranteed Eagles first down leading to an Eagles touchdown.

879
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 12: And their center did what we were at Stanford accused

880
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 12: of doing multiple times, which was moving the ball forward

881
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 12: in short yarded situations.

882
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: I will not admit to anything, but that happened to them.

883
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 12: So they go from an easy, makeable third and one,

884
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 12: which they're the best in the league, to a third

885
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 12: and six, they don't get the first down, the kick

886
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 12: a field goal instead of a touchdown. That's a key

887
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 12: point right there, because when you're in the red zone,

888
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 12: you have to score touchdowns if you want to be

889
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 12: a playoff team and a super Bowl team. And then

890
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 12: later in the game, the eight minutes to go, they're

891
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 12: running what I call a diagonal route, which is a

892
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 12: player from a tight split on one side to the back

893
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 12: corner of the end zone on the other side, and

894
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 12: what we would love to have is a defender on

895
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 12: the backside.

896
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: What the hell was a defender on the front side.

897
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 12: So the defender is in the way and Jalen puts

898
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 12: it up to Quez and it's intercepted. And I went

899
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 12: back and it was bothering me because you shouldn't make

900
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 12: that throw. But you go back, and that was almost

901
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 12: the same exact throw that Jalen Hurts made in.

902
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: The Super Bowl for the first touchdown. Right, it was

903
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: a very similar thing.

904
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 12: He gave us his receiver an opportunity to make a play,

905
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 12: and that's what you asked your quarterbacks. It's made the

906
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 12: game's put away. It's a two score game and they're

907
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 12: probably gonna win. The interception makes it difficult. Now you

908
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 12: go back. They got a three and out and they

909
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 12: got the ball back. So here's where it becomes difficult.

910
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 12: You expect your team to put the game away one

911
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 12: score lead against a team that everyone says you should

912
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 12: be and you think you should be on offense. You

913
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 12: want to end the game on offense. They ran four

914
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 12: and a half minutes off the clock, but they didn't

915
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 12: convert a third down, so they had to punt with

916
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 12: two minutes to go. So that to me is that

917
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 12: that playoff team and the way this team is going

918
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 12: to win Is running the ball, playing great defense, and

919
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 12: Jalen Hurts making two or three special plays. He's got

920
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 12: some special receivers outside and a special tight end. Also,

921
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 12: they can win one on one matchups, and they didn't

922
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 12: get it done when the game was on the line.

923
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 12: And then the biggest thing to me, it wasn't really

924
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 12: Jalen Hurts. It wasn't as much there. It's two minutes

925
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 12: to go against a backup quarterback against the Sea with

926
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 12: the Seattle Seahawks, your defense should put them away.

927
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: And they didn't. Right for me, it was cascading things,

928
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: you know that led to that loss.

929
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you pointed that out because you know

930
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: James has alluded to it before on the show. That

931
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 4: defense got worn down after a while, the way the

932
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: Seahawks came out in the second half and just drove

933
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: the ball on the ground. By the time he got

934
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 4: to the end of the game, they didn't have a

935
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: lot of fuel in the tank. But coach, I want

936
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: to spin this to a situation that to me, he's

937
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: kind of gotten overlooked down in Atlanta where they came

938
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: into the season. Head coach Arthur Smith, their owner Arthur

939
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: Blank was on board because I spoke to him about it,

940
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: and GM Terry Fontino said, we're gonna gamble this season

941
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: on Desmond Ridver. We're putting all this free agent money

942
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: we finally have in other positions and they have to

943
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 4: end up. Are they end up benching Desmond Ridder twice

944
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: this year for ineffective play? I mean like, this is

945
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: a potential like disaster scenario for the Falcons. So what

946
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 4: does it come down looking worse to the fact that

947
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: they gambled and whiffed? Or does it look worse that

948
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: they couldn't develop him to where he could succeed with

949
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 4: so many other pieces in place.

950
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the hard part.

951
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 12: Without being in the building, it's hard to say exactly

952
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 12: what it is. But it's all difficult, it's all tough,

953
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 12: and I love the way you preface this though. Starting

954
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 12: quarterback is an organizational decision, right, It's not just the

955
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 12: head coach, it's not just the coordinator. The GM is evolved,

956
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 12: the owners involved, management is involved. Everybody's looking at this

957
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 12: and they made an organizational decision. Did is they bet

958
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 12: on the kid they drafted now was her first round

959
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 12: draft pick? No, he's the third round draft pick. And

960
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 12: understandably he was talented. He's also highly effective and in

961
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 12: his yards passing a two thousand yards rushing, and the

962
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 12: guy was a winner. And he sit down here to

963
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 12: talk to him, and everybody falls in love with his kids.

964
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 12: So he's that underrated guy maybe that you think has

965
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 12: a high ceiling and showed him all the great stuff

966
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 12: the year before.

967
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: Is a rookie.

968
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: He's athletic, he's accurate, he's smart.

969
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 12: What you don't know is what is how they're going

970
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 12: to play under the fire right and throughout the year,

971
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 12: there were some really really high points, and there was

972
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 12: some really tough moments where he turned the ball over.

973
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 12: And more than anything else, quicker than anything else, what

974
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 12: loses games, what gets quarters bench, his head coaches sometimes

975
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 12: finding new locations is turnovers. And in those crunch time situations,

976
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 12: does been turned the ball over?

977
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Now, does that mean he's never gonna play again?

978
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 6: Not at all.

979
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 12: He still has those those he still has talent, he

980
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 12: still has ability. He saw him run and get out

981
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 12: of danger and saw make some really great throws and

982
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 12: some of those wins. But in those crunch time situations

983
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 12: when you can't turn the ball over, and that's that's

984
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 12: the difficult point now, and it was an organizational decision

985
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 12: and so far it has not panned out, and you

986
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 12: have to bench him because at some point he's the

987
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 12: best option until he's not right.

988
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: I believe he was the best.

989
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 12: Option for a while and now he can't be. He's

990
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 12: played his way out of that position. So as a

991
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 12: head coach, GM owner, or the whole organization, Okay, we

992
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 12: have to now put it on someone else because and

993
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 12: that's what he's earned.

994
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I talk to people in Atlanta, it was.

995
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: These are winnable games, and we have to make a

996
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: change because some of these games are winnable, and Desmond

997
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: it has been the reason we haven't won some of

998
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: these games. And we haven't lost entire faith, but we

999
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: definitely have to go out and win some of these

1000
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: football games. Now, let's go to a team that's winning

1001
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: football games of late, the Buffalo Bills. They make a

1002
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: change at offensive coordinator. Joe Brady comes in. I know

1003
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: talking to people there, coach, it was running the football,

1004
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: specifically on first and second down, was one of the

1005
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: biggest changes he wanted to make, and now we're seeing

1006
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: them run the football extremely effective.

1007
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 3: After that game, against Dallas an Orchard Park.

1008
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, and it's a really unfortunate situation when you change

1009
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 12: the coordinator in the middle of the season. A coordinator

1010
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 12: that really had done a great job, had a lot

1011
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 12: of belief in the building, had a lot of bleef

1012
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 12: with the quarterback, hit a lot of bleef with the offense.

1013
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great plays made with that previous coordinator.

1014
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 12: But then you get into difficult times and yeah, you

1015
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 12: make a switch and you look up and I'll say

1016
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 12: this in defense of anybody who calls plays with a

1017
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 12: great quarterback, it's so hard not to continually put the

1018
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 12: ball in this quarterback's hands. He is one of the

1019
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 12: best flamethrowers in the NFL. This guy is special. Every

1020
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 12: single game he makes big time throws. But when it

1021
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 12: comes to November December, when you have to win games,

1022
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 12: you have to win playoff games, whether it's home there

1023
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 12: or on the road someplace else. You got to be

1024
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 12: able to run the ball, and they stuck to it.

1025
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 12: They were effective, they were physical, they were tough. And

1026
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 12: I'll say something else. Now, this team's been through some difficulty,

1027
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 12: firing a coordinator, losing some games. They should have won

1028
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 12: the city of Buffalo, you know, kind of getting some

1029
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 12: anxiety about how this team's going to be.

1030
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes that makes you better.

1031
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 12: It makes you tougher, It makes you more resolved, It

1032
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 12: gets you out of your own personal situation.

1033
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: How many balls did I catch? How many? Now it's like, hey,

1034
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: what do we have to do to win?

1035
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 12: And I think they're there now and I think they

1036
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 12: are maybe the most dangerous team in the in the

1037
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 12: right now because they are talented, they are tough, and

1038
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 12: they're angry, right They've got an edge.

1039
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: And that's what you want going into the playoffs.

1040
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 12: And if you see a team like that, now gonna

1041
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 12: They're not gonna win every game with the Cook running

1042
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 12: for one hundred and seventy eight yards, but they put

1043
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 12: it on film against a good defense.

1044
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: So you know they can do it. And now they

1045
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: know they can do it.

1046
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 12: They can beat you through the air, they can get

1047
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 12: through the grand better more physical defense. It plays on

1048
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 12: the ball. This team is scary if they get into

1049
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 12: that playoff hunt, Yeah.

1050
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: Coach, you know you nailed it. They don't have to

1051
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 4: get a one hundred seventy are for James James Cook

1052
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: every time, but if they need to get three at

1053
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 4: important time of the game. They know they can run

1054
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: the football. Walmer Stafford coach David Shaw, we want to

1055
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 4: thank you again for joining the NFL Report and dropping

1056
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 4: the knowledge. We appreciate your time and we'll see you

1057
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: against it.

1058
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: It's always such good insight from coach David Shaw and

1059
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: Brian Balding.

1060
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: Or back to back. Are you kidding me?

1061
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: This does say Monday and Thursday, Steve, that's when we

1062
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: have the NFL Report. Scratch Monday, no show on Christmas.

1063
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: We will have a show on Thursday, and we're expecting

1064
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: a monster one for that Thursday show at seven point

1065
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: fifteen Eastern with a couple of guests.

1066
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: We're just kind of hinting towards a little bit, all right.

1067
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: And don't forget to listen to the podcast and JP

1068
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: as you go into this holiday weekend. One was you

1069
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: and Meg and Nicks and everybody. A Merry Christmas, everybody

1070
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 4: who was stuck with us as we've built this show.

1071
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas, Happy holidays, and thank you very much.

1072
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it, Steve, you d all the boys,

1073
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: everyone out there, Merry Christmas. And also this is a

1074
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: holiday season. This is also not an easy season. For

1075
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there that are going through

1076
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: some things. So peace and joy to everybody out there

1077
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: during this holiday season.

1078
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: Steve Merry Christmas, Harry Christmas, bro