WEBVTT - "I'M ADDICTED TO HENTAI"

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<v Speaker 1>You're watching a ton of porn. You're watching anime girls.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you're watching the hen Tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well essentially, yeah, because like it's not even like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like normal porn. It just like it would be like

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<v Speaker 2>it started just getting like more fucked up type stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and then like that's the only type of stuff I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello is this Ben?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Ben. It says here that you can only

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<v Speaker 1>get aroused by anime girls and you feel disgusted by that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this? Is this z accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>So there's kind of a story behind this burst that

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<v Speaker 2>will make it make sense. Would you like to hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more curious what you mean by makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like saying it right off the bat

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<v Speaker 2>in general, it makes it sound very like odd. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if I give you the explanation behind

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<v Speaker 2>that statement, it would make more sense to what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, sure, go ahead? What is uh?

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<v Speaker 3>What is?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the origination?

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<v Speaker 2>So this originally started whenever I realized that So I

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<v Speaker 2>had been hanging out with this one girl and then

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<v Speaker 2>I know that and I've never had a problem like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like performing before. But then one day, like all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I just I couldn't, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was just like very odd, and it started

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<v Speaker 2>to become more a consistent thing. And I know originally

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, like, oh god, do I have a

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<v Speaker 2>medical problem. But then I could like I had like

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<v Speaker 2>a bad habit, like I would go home and like

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<v Speaker 2>I would always like watch like the most like raunchy

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<v Speaker 2>type videos, but I would not have a problem like performing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't like I'm more or less looking for

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<v Speaker 2>some advice. If you think that's like is if like

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<v Speaker 2>I've desensitized like my mind in a way, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>an emotional connection, I missed it, Like what would you

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<v Speaker 2>get out of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Would I get out of? Okay, you're watching a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of porn? You're watching uh anime girls? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching the hen Tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well essentially, yeah, because like it's not even like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like normal porn. It's just like it would be like

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<v Speaker 2>it started just getting like more fucked up type stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and then like that's the only type of stuff I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, and the fucked up type stuff that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a desire in real life to to

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<v Speaker 1>enacting stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally think it's like really disgusting even just like

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<v Speaker 2>mentioning it. I think the whole idea of just like

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<v Speaker 2>saying it out loud, I think it just sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>very gross in general, and like I feel disgusted that

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of like my reality that I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>having to like work with now. And I was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wondering. I remember mentioning about how like desensitizing actually

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<v Speaker 2>is a serious problem. How you went through a whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing about that, and I was wondering, if you think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, definitely. I mean, look, I'm no brain chemist person,

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<v Speaker 1>but absolutely you get desensitized. I mean, even like normal porn,

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<v Speaker 1>right if you just watch, if you're just jacking off

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<v Speaker 1>to two people fucking, like you know, when you go

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<v Speaker 1>out into the world and like I have sex with

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<v Speaker 1>the real human beings, you get like desensitized to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no explanation of the chemistry and whatnot, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean clearly, you know, any any type of porn

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<v Speaker 1>is going to like desensitize you to the actual reality

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<v Speaker 1>of sex. You know, whether whether you're just watching like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, people just have sex, or if you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>people shitting on each other, or if you're watching anime girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I feel like anime girls, that that has gotta

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<v Speaker 1>drive that up to like one hundred, right, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not even that doesn't even exist, you know, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting born at least it's like a model of

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that actually happens, but the anime is unattainable,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So of course I feel like there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>desensitization going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Like at this point, I feel like, like, did I

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<v Speaker 2>do sometimes my mind to the point where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>even like whenever I'm like with a real life person,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you spoken to a doctor about this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I know it's not necessarily it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>the problem of I can get leaky rid. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like I have a recta's function. But it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>very situational type thing, and I I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's like something that I would seek medical attention for.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you just wondering if your your excessive porn

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<v Speaker 1>usage and your inability to perform are linked?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm more like I'm calling because like

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<v Speaker 2>this is something I wouldn't like typically like want to

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<v Speaker 2>mention with like friends or like family. So I'm more

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<v Speaker 2>or less just like I'm calling like this like the

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<v Speaker 2>first person I've ever mentioned it too, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to see if you have an opinion or like

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<v Speaker 2>any like if you have an opinion or have any

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<v Speaker 2>idea of like why.

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<v Speaker 3>That is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean did It's It's as I said. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like like with any with any type of point,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get the sensitize to the actual experience of

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<v Speaker 1>having sex. So if I were you, I would do

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<v Speaker 1>two things. One, I would try to quit watching porn.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel as though it's having a negative effect

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<v Speaker 1>on your actual sexual abilities then and it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>you to be able to perform sexually, then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you would try to go down that path of quitting porn.

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<v Speaker 1>And then too, you know, I know you say you're

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<v Speaker 1>discouraged from talking to a doctor, but you should totally

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a doctor about this. There's sex therapists, there's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of you know, people who would have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more practical advice because you know, you know, look,

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<v Speaker 1>people come, I mean on this this show again, you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever. I don't really give advice, but like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when people are like, how do I quit? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I quit? How do I quit? It's like this this

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<v Speaker 1>is a fucking specialist for everything. It's like there's alcoholism,

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, people addicted to all sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like you might be kind of addicted

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<v Speaker 1>to porn. And I can't just tell you, hey, quit

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<v Speaker 1>your addiction, because it's probably gonna be more complicated than that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I can tell you is is that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you should recognize if you have a problem it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you have, and then uh, don't be embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 1>go try to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, how would you word that to a doctor

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<v Speaker 2>or like if there's a specialist of like whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you go in there and then like word

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<v Speaker 2>the scenario? Cause like even just like saying out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>I personally just feel disgusted even just like like talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so like you gotta let you gotta let

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta, you gotta let go of the shame. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta let go of the shame. You love big anime titties,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Lots of people love big anime titties.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they're drawing so many of them. You think

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<v Speaker 1>they would you think that people would sit in these

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<v Speaker 1>animation studios drawing tit after tit, hand drawn tit animation

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<v Speaker 1>if other people were not also soaking it up. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you then go to the doctor and walk in

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<v Speaker 2>with confidence and talk about big anime titties?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck? Yeah, I would go into that. I would say, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's these people's job to deal with the ship. Yeah, hey, doc,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm addicted to anime titties and I need your I

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<v Speaker 1>need a cure. I need your anime titty antidotes. My

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<v Speaker 1>dick does not work because of all the anime titties. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you What do you think is gonna laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at you? I mean he might, but who cares.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sounds ridiculous, sounds disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's what's going on with you, though it's your truth,

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<v Speaker 1>own it. It's you. It's what's going on. The shame

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<v Speaker 1>is only making it worse. Will you do that for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Do that for me?

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<v Speaker 5>Will you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you? Will you? And I don't know, I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>I I can't you know, hold your hand through Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>overcoming the fear. But well you try, there's no shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Like I like I already have an appointment

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<v Speaker 2>lined up with care Now. Every time I said did

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<v Speaker 2>getting closer, I'm always just thinking like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so awkward, and like I'm keep on

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<v Speaker 2>just like do I really have to go to this?

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<v Speaker 1>No fuck? No no no no no no. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your truth, as I said, and you've got to own it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be awkward. I mean even if

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<v Speaker 1>it is, who gives it? Who cares? This is your truth.

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<v Speaker 1>You love anime titties and it's making your dick not work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bet these doctors who study the penis and

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<v Speaker 1>it's inner workings would love to tell you how you

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<v Speaker 1>can make your penis work. Again, that's what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they live for, is to fix people's penises.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the girl I was seeing? I remember this

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<v Speaker 2>was like kind of what like I thought, was really

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<v Speaker 2>sad about all of this. I had to like I

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<v Speaker 2>got it like mildly hard and I had to like

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<v Speaker 2>pretend to finish and this was like more than once,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I remember, it was like so sad, like

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<v Speaker 2>I had like pretend to finish. Would you like then

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<v Speaker 2>tell the person you're seeing about this, or would you

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<v Speaker 2>not even mention?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, okay, here's the thing. Look, you only want

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<v Speaker 1>to be fucking with people who are cool, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you only want to be fucking with people who are cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, look, if something's going on with your dick,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell the person and uh, if they freak out

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<v Speaker 1>about it or get mad, uh, then they're not the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person you'll be fucking with anyway. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you got to commit, Like you know, if you're fucking

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<v Speaker 1>with someone and they say, hey, my vagina doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta you gotta be cool too, you know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a litmus test, right, But I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's a bit different, like whenever you're a woman, though,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like in that sort of shoe, whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, yeah, whenever I'm around you, I can't get

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<v Speaker 2>my dick hard. I feel I feel like that's like

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<v Speaker 2>just like a slap in the face kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it to look, some people take some people

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<v Speaker 1>take it personally. I understand why people take it personally,

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<v Speaker 1>but usually it's it's it's not a personal thing. You've

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<v Speaker 1>gotta find people you're comfortable with. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>have this issue of like you're not you're not comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with like your your your body and your issues and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that's not something that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confident about myself. I'm confident about the way I look.

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<v Speaker 2>But just like this like specific topic and like it

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<v Speaker 2>just like respecifically like revolving around like HENTI to it,

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<v Speaker 2>just like it. Just remember, I feel a loud it

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<v Speaker 2>just personally makes it. I just feel like it's sound

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<v Speaker 2>just so disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta own it, you, Ben, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>own it. These girls. There's a girl that you're sleeping with.

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<v Speaker 1>You just just be honest with her. I can't get hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not because of you. You're great. I've just been

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<v Speaker 1>looking at too many anime titties. There's no shame in that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your truth. Be honest with this person. Will you

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<v Speaker 1>do that for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Ben?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you call you call your mom on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to tell your mom, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>started with your mom, it would make the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>these conversations easier. Hey, good luck to you, Ben, gek bless.

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<v Speaker 3>You and have.

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<v Speaker 1>A good night. Hello, Hello, Olivia Mile.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, how are you. I'm doing all right? How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia? It says here that you troll phone scammers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that is true. So yeah, I started doing this

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<v Speaker 6>because some time ago my mom got was a victim

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<v Speaker 6>of phone scamming. She lost a ton of money, had

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<v Speaker 6>a change bank account, all that stuff, and I hated

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<v Speaker 6>that that happen. I couldn't do anything. So uh with

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<v Speaker 6>the career that I have now, I have learned how

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<v Speaker 6>to use telephones in a very digital way to uh

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<v Speaker 6>do things like calling them incessantly. Like you make something

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<v Speaker 6>that says I'm going to call every uh you know,

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<v Speaker 6>five minutes, and I'm going to call from it looking

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<v Speaker 6>like it's coming from a different number every time, or

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it just looks like it comes from the number

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<v Speaker 6>one or the number two or the number three or

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<v Speaker 6>anything of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this like a like a I'm not anythink about coding,

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<v Speaker 1>but like a script that you wrote or.

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<v Speaker 6>Something essentially, Yes, attacked with knowledge about how telephone works

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<v Speaker 6>from like a coding level. I work doing software essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>So how long have you been running this operation?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't know if I would call it

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<v Speaker 6>an operation as much as it is a a hobby

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<v Speaker 6>of sorts that my motto, my motto generally is if

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<v Speaker 6>I can waste a phone scammer's time, I am stopping

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<v Speaker 6>them from actually scamming people that are vulnerable to that

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<v Speaker 6>because I find that that it's it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>shitty to have people, especially because it's the older generations,

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<v Speaker 6>right that are normally the ones that are or unaware.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't teach everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I was gonna say, this is a great example

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<v Speaker 1>of doing what you can, right, because you can't teach everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. I mean, there's there's whatever. However, many thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of people running these scams. You can't take down the

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<v Speaker 1>whole operation, but you can waste a scammer's time such

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<v Speaker 1>that one person that he could have called and scammed

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get scammed. So you're you're doing what you can

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<v Speaker 1>to fix this issue that you are passionate about. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you, how do you have time to do

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<v Speaker 1>all this? Do you do you have like another gig

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<v Speaker 1>or or is this it?

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<v Speaker 6>At this point? From what I have done, it's been

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<v Speaker 6>very hobbyist, and I've and I've actually thought and questioned

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<v Speaker 6>myself with this, Like the things that I'm thinking I

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<v Speaker 6>could make in my mind, they pose a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>of like an ethical problem, Like just because I can

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<v Speaker 6>make something that does this, doesn't mean that I should

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<v Speaker 6>make this thing that does this, because this could get

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<v Speaker 6>used for something altogether different than my intended purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense, right, Yeah, No, of course, if you make

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of technology that gets into the wrong hands,

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<v Speaker 1>it could completely undo all the all the justice that

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<v Speaker 1>you've been serving upon the world and be used as

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<v Speaker 1>a tool for evil.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, if there was a way to make this,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, if there was some way that I

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<v Speaker 6>could to justify it, I might sit there and go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>actually this might be worth my time, and then maybe

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<v Speaker 6>I don't. Maybe I spend less time doing my other gig,

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<v Speaker 6>or you know, maybe I do something that all together.

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<v Speaker 6>It just depends, you know. But until I have that,

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<v Speaker 6>I just I don't know. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 6>actually want to build these things.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this thing that you're talking about building? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this like some sort of doomsday.

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<v Speaker 6>Well it's not even like a doomsday thing. It's just

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<v Speaker 6>like a server. It's just like, how do you make

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<v Speaker 6>a server? And then like right the server or or

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<v Speaker 6>you could say like a client or like the client

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<v Speaker 6>can make a phone call right, or if it gets

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<v Speaker 6>you know, right, Which is why I'm trying. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 6>to use like non technical terms because it did very

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<v Speaker 6>it's very coding related, and it's I feel like when

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<v Speaker 6>I start to talk about it more technically, I really

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<v Speaker 6>start to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Okay, you shouldn't have to dumb yourself down to

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<v Speaker 1>get to my level. What but the the the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of it? What is what's the ultimate purpose of this technology?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>I would want to disincentivize phone scamming altogether to the

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<v Speaker 6>point where it makes a business either non operational or

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<v Speaker 6>creates more of a barrier to make such things. Because

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<v Speaker 6>maybe I can't like to feed it, right, But if

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<v Speaker 6>I can do something that has that intended purpose to

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<v Speaker 6>specifically make it more difficult in some way, shape or form, huh,

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<v Speaker 6>that would that would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I bring something up that maybe will be inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I don't know if you've thought about this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>phone these these these phone scams I feel like ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>will die out at some point because, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the primary targets are old people that don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to use the Internet. So eventually, once we get to

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<v Speaker 1>a point in humanity where everyone alive grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, I feel like everyone will have a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of baseline Internet literacy and the scammers will have to

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<v Speaker 1>work like ten times is hard to trick people than

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<v Speaker 1>they do now, so the the issue will event actually

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<v Speaker 1>phase out, but all the would be victims would also

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<v Speaker 1>be dead at that point. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel better or worse.

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<v Speaker 6>That does make me feel better. I wonder what else

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<v Speaker 6>would pop up instead of that, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>scamming is sort of always a game of cat and mouth.

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<v Speaker 6>But this was a point that you brought up just now.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't consider it actually does make you feel a

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<v Speaker 6>lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so I feel like the well, let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this other thing, because you were like, what

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<v Speaker 1>form will it take now? I feel like the format

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<v Speaker 1>takes now is like I don't know, man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're into bitcoin or whatever, but whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>watch whenever, like you watch a video about it, the comments,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always somebody in the comments that's like it's a bot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like I'm made ten thousand dollars trading four

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<v Speaker 1>x with Jessica Williams. Here's Jessica Williams's WhatsApp number, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you text Jessica Williams and Jessica Williams is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>give me your wallet address things so that I can

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<v Speaker 1>put a bunch of money in there, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and then she just takes all your money

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<v Speaker 1>and turns out she wasn't Jessica Williams. Who's this some

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<v Speaker 1>guy now now in that situation, because that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the modern version. Who is any fault? Is it Jessica

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<v Speaker 1>Williams or is it you know, Dan the Man sixty

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<v Speaker 1>nine on YouTube?

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<v Speaker 8>Who?

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<v Speaker 1>At what point do we take personal responsibility? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I have no opinion either way, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious about yours because you seemed passionate about the issue.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I think I think as we age

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<v Speaker 6>and as the older generations are more I would probably

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<v Speaker 6>say technically aware, technically savvy, then I think there would

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<v Speaker 6>sort of be a shifting baseline on that right of

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<v Speaker 6>like what is acceptable in the state of the older

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<v Speaker 6>generations that they are now people that are like my

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<v Speaker 6>mom's age, or people like I'm not even given number.

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<v Speaker 6>But people that are older, I feel for them because

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't grow up with that or like I grew

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<v Speaker 6>up with these things, right. But I think I think

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<v Speaker 6>that would be a changing standard overall. And I think

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<v Speaker 6>like in the case of like, if if I don't

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<v Speaker 6>Dan the Man ninety five, I don't remember who you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I said, you know, but who you could

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<v Speaker 1>be any number?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I would say, like, if you know, Dan the

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<v Speaker 6>Man was in their twenties, probably I would say, like,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe maybe you should know that, like because of the

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<v Speaker 6>technical world.

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<v Speaker 3>But I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't think that that's a blanket statement.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's think I'm going to try to trick

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<v Speaker 1>you into doing a blank I'm going to scam you

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<v Speaker 1>into doing a blanket statement.

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<v Speaker 6>At what edekay?

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<v Speaker 1>At what age? Is it your faults? If a scammer

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<v Speaker 1>takes all your bitcoin at what age? When? When should

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<v Speaker 1>you know better?

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<v Speaker 3>At what age?

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<v Speaker 6>When should you know better from like from here on out?

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<v Speaker 1>From here on out? What's the cutoff?

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<v Speaker 4>A you know, I want to say twenty five twenty five? Really,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's plenty of feeble, plenty of time to

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<v Speaker 4>have technology in your hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Okay, So if you're twenty seven and Jessica Williams

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<v Speaker 1>texts you and is like, give me. They're your bank

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<v Speaker 1>account routing information so that I can sell you a

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin thing, and you give it to them. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>your fault.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say, Dan the man, Where have you been?

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia? Is there anything else you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>today before we go?

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<v Speaker 6>No? That's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel satisfied with this conversation?

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<v Speaker 6>I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you le of course, have a good night, Olivia.

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<v Speaker 3>You do, by.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Carly, Hi, what is life like?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say it says here that you just

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<v Speaker 1>made a fake Instagram account to stuck your ex boyfriend? Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>How recently did you guys break up?

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<v Speaker 5>Like last month? Like on Valentine's Day?

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<v Speaker 1>Guy's just been it's been a full months.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, and it's still like still deep fresh wound.

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<v Speaker 1>How long were you guys together?

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<v Speaker 5>We were off and on for three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Off and on for three years. What inspired you to

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<v Speaker 1>make this Instagram account?

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<v Speaker 5>So when we broke up? Like I couldn't stand seeing

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<v Speaker 5>like you know how on Instagram? When you like when

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<v Speaker 5>you're friends with somebody and they like the same post

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<v Speaker 5>as you and it shows like their icon at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 5>like this person liked it as well. I couldn't stand

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<v Speaker 5>that that made like it made me want to cry

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<v Speaker 5>seeing that, so I unfollowed him. Well, he has a

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<v Speaker 5>private count. So I recently like requested to follow him

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<v Speaker 5>again and he didn't allow me to follow him immediately.

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<v Speaker 5>So I decided to make a fake account, and that

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<v Speaker 5>night I followed like a hundred forty people like posted

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of like memes on the page, made sure

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<v Speaker 5>to put like a guy's name, and made sure to

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<v Speaker 5>like have completely opposite like basically just throw him off

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<v Speaker 5>that like it's not me, because like I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>like stay in the range of his interest, but like

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<v Speaker 5>to the point where he doesn't know it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I mean, how do you how do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about the fact that you've done this? How is

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<v Speaker 1>this process? I mean feeling too.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel psychopathic, honestly, because not even like five minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking at his location on snapshot and he

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't at his house and they started to freak out

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<v Speaker 5>because he is talking to the new girl I heard

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<v Speaker 5>from his friend. I was freaking out. I was texting

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<v Speaker 5>my friend Zac. I'm just like, do you know where

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<v Speaker 5>she lives? And I sent a screen out of his

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<v Speaker 5>location and he's like, how the hell am I supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to know? And then like I checked it again and

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<v Speaker 5>then he was back at his house, so he was

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<v Speaker 5>most likely driving on his way home.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think you're doing this? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>like hoping to gain from following him on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>uh looking at his location? Like what what is the

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<v Speaker 1>end game here? Well?

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<v Speaker 5>You know how I said, we were off and on

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<v Speaker 5>like situations like this has happened before with us, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>not as bad as this time, but that's why it

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<v Speaker 5>kind of hurts the most. But like I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like praying like a few months, like on he'll like

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<v Speaker 5>be through with that girl, and like I can like

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<v Speaker 5>slide back and be like, hey, what's up? So you

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<v Speaker 5>want to get back together?

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<v Speaker 1>Carly says, you're eighteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you still in high school? Are you freshmen

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<v Speaker 1>in college?

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<v Speaker 6>What are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you at?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? Yeah, I'm still in high school. Okay month away

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<v Speaker 5>from graduation?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, two months away from graduation. What are he plans

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>after graduation?

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I'm trying to move out of my parents' house, well,

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 5>my dad and my stepmom's house, and recently had a

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 5>fight with my mom. But I kind of need a

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<v Speaker 5>place to stay in the area of the community college

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 5>that I'm to be going to, so I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>making up with her so i can get a place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a bad idea at all. I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I I'm asking you that is cause like

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you're at a You're at a super interesting point in life,

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, graduating high school, where the world is so

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>vast and open to you. There's infinite possibilities for you

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to do whatever it is you want to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely believe that I'm not saying it is like feel

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>good bullshit. So to to be stalking your ex on

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>social media, whatever stalking means, and to be really fixated

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>on the possibility of getting back with him, it is

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to just go complete tunnel vision, uh, and not even realize,

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>even though it's just right in front of your right

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>in front of your face, not even realize depth of opportunity,

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the depth of people out there in the world that

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<v Speaker 1>there is the possible abilities are truly endless for you

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point. And so in light of that, why

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>would you want to continue to fixate on this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, what are what are some things that

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<v Speaker 1>you like want to do? Like do you have do

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>have hobbies? Do you have interest? Do you have like

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<v Speaker 1>aspirations of any kind?

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, this year has been really rough, so I've lost

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Like those motivations.

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<v Speaker 5>He was my best friend and like I before he redated,

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<v Speaker 5>you were best friends. And like, he's the person I

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<v Speaker 5>talked to you every day more than like my actual friends.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 5>So like, that was the person I leaned on. That

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<v Speaker 5>was the person I planned on having a somewhat of it.

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 5>Like I knew it probably wouldn't last like forever, but

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<v Speaker 5>like I guess a little bit longer. Like we have

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<v Speaker 5>a cat together. My sister's holding currently taking that cat

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 5>back now she's I'll refuse.

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<v Speaker 2>To give her up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think your time and you seem you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>seem like a smart and away of person. I'm sure

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know this already, but you know your time that

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you're spending, uh you know, conniving on Instagram and snapchat. Uh.

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>It it is a it is a race to the bottom.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I want you to understand that you do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you you know I beneath the sort of addiction brain

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>that you know we've all experienced that is very like

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a sort of brainwashy type of vibes beneath all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you recognize how it's a right to

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but I do realize it's like not a healthy thing.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 5>But like, I don't have anything else to focus on

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 5>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly it. That's exactly it, you know. And if

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't have anything to focus on, uh, what are

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? You're gonna go on Instagram, you go

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>on Snapchat. You're gonna be like, oh, he's at the park,

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>he's at the fucking ice skating rink, whatever it is,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>because you have anything else to focus on. This is

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a good place you're at right now because you're not

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in denial. You know, you understand, you recognize that what

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you're doing. You know, you might as you kind of

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of put it, that you're you're you almost feel

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like you're not in control, you know, but you're recognizing

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things that you're not in control,

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that that it is a race to the bottom. It's

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 1>good that you know that. So, I mean, we know

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>we know that we're where that we are are our

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>actions are not productive and and sometimes even a little destructive.

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh So, like what could we replace this with? Like

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:16.719
<v Speaker 1>what are you going to study? And you said you're

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>going to community college? Right, yeah, what do you what?

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>What are we studying a community college?

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<v Speaker 5>I really don't have a full plan yet, but like

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 5>since I was younger, I've always had this idea of

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 5>being a debt. So most likely like veterinary science.

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Word word word word word word, it's a good place

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to start. I mean that's the general direction I feel. Uh,

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>is just that, like you need something, preferably that's not

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>other people, that's not some new guy, even that's not

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, your friend. I mean, it could be your friends,

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>but you'll preferably something that's Cats are nice. Taking care

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>of a cat, it's nice, gets your mind off of things,

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a whole Uh, you're providing for something else.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But like, what could you do that transmutes this energy

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that you're spending on Instagram and snapchat into something more productive?

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I can't answer that question for you

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>because you only know you, but like, if you can

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>at least conscientiously show up every day knowing that that

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 1>is your objective, that is your next step. I think

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you will eventually get there. Does that make does it

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>make sense? Do you agree with that?

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh? You're right, You're right.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about all this?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a hard tell to swallow. And I get these things,

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 5>and I really do make an effort a lot. I

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 5>try to go out with my friends, Like I try

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 5>to go out on like on a date with somebody

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 5>else to get my mind off things. I try to

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 5>like like focus on my studies. Like I'm currently in theater,

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 5>so I'm trying to focus on my play. But like

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 5>it always goes back to that. But like, I guess

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 5>I just got to keep on pushing for.

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>More.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 5>I guess, uh, I gotta do more things because I

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 5>feel like that's allowing myself time to think. And when

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 5>I think, that's when it like really gets bad.

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, no, no, no, you never want to think.

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>You never want to be alone with your thoughts. That's

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the game. That's that's all this, that's the whole game

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>of everything. Why do you think I'm a get go

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 1>on the computer right now, Carly, just to get away

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>from let's stick, get away from the thoughts.

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<v Speaker 9>But but yeah, I feel like you're on a you're

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 9>on a good track where you're conscientiously showing up every

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 9>day with that in mind, and from there, at least

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 9>in my experience, it's gonna be about time.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be about time. It's pretty fresh for

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you a month. Yeah, but uh, I think time plus

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>uh awareness that uh stalking Snapchat is not the moves

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.399
<v Speaker 1>is the way to go. And please, for the love

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of God, delete those apps in that account.

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 5>You're right, you're right, you're right.

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>You to do it right now.

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll do it right now.

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:50.439
<v Speaker 1>You do it right now.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:53.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing it right now.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Hey, you can delete both of them. Instagram never done

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>nothing good for anyone except accept those influencers that get

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>paid thirty thousand dollars to talk about water. Listen, Carly Jack,

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>bless you, good luck to you. Anything else you want

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to say before we go?

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 5>Do you want a tarrat card reading?

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Ooh maybe another time.

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 5>Understandable, but hey, that's a good thing to.

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Get into, you know, if we're talking about things that

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you like doing, uh, tarrort card readings, start a small business,

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, just throwing ideas out there. Thank you, man,

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>appreciate Carly Forever. The cards have nothing to tell me

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that I don't already know. I don't know if that's true.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the cards have to tell me.

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the cards talk. I don't know

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 1>if I trust them.

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 7>Josh, Hey, how's it going?

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>How are you? Josh?

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 7>I'm well? How are you?

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a gecko on the computer? How how can I

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you know? I'm I'm I'm always I'm always sort of

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>torn about you know, if i'm. I was about to say,

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>how can I help you? But I don't know if

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can help you, Josh, unless

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>if you think I can? Do you think I can

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>help you with anything? Is there anything that you're fairly

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 1>certain I could help you with?

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 7>You could give me like an am I the asshole

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 7>evaluation on the little scenario?

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I have?

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure? What's the scenario?

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 7>I was in Colorado for a week doing a lot

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 7>of snowboarding, and we were indulging in the cannabis, and

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 7>so I brought this electric rig called a puff Goo

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 7>peak Pro. It's like four hund We were hitting that

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 7>the whole time, and then, like last night before we

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 7>flew out magically just like the glass shattered magically, like

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 7>I just someone walked over and saw it and told me,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 7>and but like nobody nobody said anything about it, and

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 7>like everybody was like I didn't do that, but like

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.240
<v Speaker 7>I don't know about you. I don't know if you've

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 7>ever used a bong, but like I feel like most

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 7>people know if they break something, like it's pretty apparent.

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 7>And everybody just like acted like they didn't know who

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 7>did it. And I got like visibly upset, was like

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 7>said some choice words and went to bed. And the

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 7>next day, uh, I like mentioned something else about it.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 7>One of the guys got like crazy upset, so a

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 7>lot of like kind of harsh things to me, And

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, I just feel like I'm not I

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 7>than like bijing Er an asshole in that situation, you know,

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 7>Like I feel like if they were my friends, they

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 7>could have just like owned up to it, like that

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 7>glass replacement was probably like seventy bucks. Like I could

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 7>give a fuck less about the glass, but like I

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 7>just wanted someone to tell me like that they did it.

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>No, it's the principle. It's like what you know, we've

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>been friends for how many years and you're not just

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna you know, we're all adults. You're not just gonna

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 1>own up and tell me that you broke this thing.

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's basically it. I was like, I mean, I

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 7>can easily replace this tomorrow, but like, why would you

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 7>just set it back? Like what if I did that

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 7>to your car? What? I just hate your car by accident?

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 7>And then like parked in the other spot and was like,

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what happened to dog.

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Hmm. So did you ever find out how many how

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>many guys were in this house?

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 7>I meet and three other dudes? One of the guys

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 7>does not smoke. He's completely out of the picture. I

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 7>know he wouldn't have even been near it.

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's too two of them, And to this point,

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>do they still adamantly deny that they had anything to

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>do with it?

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 9>Uh?

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, But the the one like the one didn't get

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 7>upset or anything. Uh, he's the one that actually brought

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 7>it up the shows to me because he was about

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 7>to use it, and he was like, yeah, I think

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 7>it's like broken at the top, and then I was

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 7>I said, like, you did it. The other guy didn't

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 7>really say much that night, and then the next day

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 7>he was the one that like got crazy upset.

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>You think he's got.

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 7>I feel like he has something to hide, Like why

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 7>would he slip out like that? Like it didn't it

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 7>didn't correlate. Like he just started, like, you know, like

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 7>taking like cheap shots at me and like attacking me

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 7>for all this stuff. And I was like, why are

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 7>you yelling? Like I wasn't yelling, you know, And I

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 7>don't know. I felt like he definitely did it, and

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 7>but I'd never accused him, you know. I just like,

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 7>let me.

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Ask you something, this guy who you think did it?

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>What has your relationship been with him thus far? Like

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 1>is this something that is completely out of character for him?

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I assume you've known this guy for a decent

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>amount of time his trip with him, you have an

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>established record of of who he is and what your

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>relationship is like with him? What what is what does

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that record look like?

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 7>Right? So I've probably known him for two or three years.

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:51.760
<v Speaker 7>I met him through like a bunch of wake surfing guys,

0:42:51.800 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 7>and he is definitely kind of like an like altercative person.

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 7>I guess you could say, like I feel like he

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 7>kind of enjoys that.

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 8>He enjoys confectations ever towards like that's yeah, yeah, and

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.479
<v Speaker 8>but like he's never really done anything towards like any

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 8>of us to make me basically what happened like out

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 8>of line for anything I've experienced within our friends group

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 8>around him. But I've seen him get upset.

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 7>With other people like on like the ski slopes and

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 7>stuff kind of similar to that.

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>M Okay, so you've observed him having a angry temperament

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>in the past. Yeah, Now, are you, like, and look,

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>be honest with me, are you one hundred percent sure

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that somebody broke your bong and that something freakish didn't

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>happen like a cat came in and put it down,

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 1>or the wind or anything like that. Are you like

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent sure this was this was the act

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>of a human.

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 7>I mean I had just used it like less than

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:24.399
<v Speaker 7>five minutes before I went to sit down and eat,

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 7>and we were in an airbnb. There's like no animals

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 7>or anything. And as a heavy base, like you have

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 7>to like hit it with your hands and knock it

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 7>over or something. So I've I find it like kind

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 7>of hard to believe that would have just been like, oh,

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 7>an accidental like swing, because like if it got knocked

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 7>over or a form where it shattered, like it had

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 7>to have gotten picked back up because it was bick

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 7>back up.

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, because it was standing back up, but it was damaged, right, Mmm,

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>detective work going into this, all right, So this guy

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>who you're pretty sure did it, because he's acting all emotional,

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he's freaking out. I don't know because when you told

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>me that, if we're going, if we're playing detective here,

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the person who brought it to you

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>could also be guilty. You know, we don't want to rule.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 7>Him out record too, but like he was he I've

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 7>known him for like ten years. I lived with him

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 7>for like five years, and like we've both like broken

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 7>each other's last four and just honestly like told each

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 7>other and like just paid each other like whatever. Like

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 7>you know, it was never a big deal. I would

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 7>kind of trust him to tell me if if that

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 7>was him, So okay, and like that. Also, when the

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 7>other guy flipped out, he blamed it on my friend.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 7>I've known him for ten years.

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh so the other the guy who flipped out blamed

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it on the guy even known for ten years.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he was like it was probably him, Like trying

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 7>to like clear himself.

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Yeah, this guy sounds super guilty. So mm hmm.

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:18.919
<v Speaker 1>So listen, I mean, are you going to continue your

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 1>relationship with this guy who who you sort of now

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>know to act a fool in in a in a

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 1>in this manner.

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 7>Probably not. I mean, like my friend, my other friend,

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 7>like ten year friend and I were talking on like

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 7>a ski lift one of the days when it was

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 7>just us, and he has some thoughts about it too,

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 7>and said he might stop hanging out with him after

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 7>this trip, and then all this stuff happened after that.

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this guy, he's this is not an isolated

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:02.359
<v Speaker 1>incident of of bad things.

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 7>Seem Yeah, it seems like it seems like all of

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 7>us has slowly been kind of catching onto things.

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm mm hmm. Well, it sounds like you have

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>your plot forward established here in terms of whether or

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 1>not you're gonna hang out with this guy again.

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's definitely a big no.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>What kind of bong was it again? The say It

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Say one more time?

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 7>The puff goo peak pro Are you gonna buy another one? Yeah?

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 7>I'll probably just go get a glass replacement piece the

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 7>next few days I guess I usually just only use

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 7>this for traveling anyway, so it's not like pressing.

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But you have a you have a travel one, a

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 1>home one.

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 7>I have like yeah, like an actual piece of glass.

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 7>This is more like electric setup kind of.

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Hm.

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>people before we go?

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.439
<v Speaker 7>Veiled back balls are really sick. If you've never hit

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 7>those up, definitely do it.

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>What is it?

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 7>The veil back balls at Veil resort, Veil resorts.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Like, all right, this is this is the scene of

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the crime here.

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 7>That's that's where we were. We were at Veil, Breckenridge, Teystone,

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 7>Beaver Creek. Yeah, over five days. We hit four resorts

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 7>over five days, and we hit Veiled twice.

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, it sounds like aside from this long breaking incident,

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty good weekend.

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, I had the GoPro three sixty. That thing

0:48:59.880 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 7>is so cool. Have you ever used it?

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I got to get one though, because I

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 1>want to do my gek walk things with that, So

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do you have a code?

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's really cool. When you get it, sign up

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:17.720
<v Speaker 7>for the GoPro subscription. It's fifty hours a year, I think,

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 7>and it's so worth it because if you break your GoPro,

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 7>they just replace it, no question, and you can It's

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 7>like unlimited cloud storage uploads, so all your videos you

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 7>can upload to their cloud and there's no limit to it,

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 7>which is pretty cool.

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, Josh, I hope you're getting paid for this.

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.240
<v Speaker 7>No, man, I'm just chilling on my couch.

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. Have a good night, Josh, you too, man. Hello,

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 1>how's it going?

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 3>A lot?

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Tell me? Tell me everything? A lot of Well here, Alana,

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it says here that you want to know if you

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>should be mad that you recently found out that your

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>dad got married a year ago and did not tell anybody.

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was something I could talk about for sure,

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 3>if you.

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Want to talk about it, I I That's that's why

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 1>we're here. We're here to talk on the phone. Alana.

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>What's what happened here?

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 3>All right? Well, backstory, my dad and my parents separated

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 3>about six years ago, and about three years ago we

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 3>started dating this girl I don't want to say, I

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 3>don't care Keana, and we all met her at my

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.919
<v Speaker 3>brother's eighteenth birthday party, which is at my dad's house,

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 3>I like family house. Before my parents separated, and when

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.760
<v Speaker 3>we all pulled up and she was there, At first

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 3>I thought she was one of my brother's friends. And

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like trying to she looked really like she

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 3>wasn't talking to anybody, and so I said, hey, do

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 3>you be a swimsuit or you know, need any direction

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 3>for bathroom or food? You know, let me know. She's

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 3>like no, I'm good. Do you have you? And I

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 3>was like, all right, have you seen Alan? I'm like

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 3>my dad and she's like yeah, I'm like yeah, I

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 3>think he's in inside. And she's like all right, cool, thanks,

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:27.760
<v Speaker 3>and then she walked away and then kind of like clicked,

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 3>like is that the girl that my dad say? And

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 3>so she's found out she's my age, you know, one

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 3>year older than me. I think, so I'm twenty six,

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 3>she's twenty seven. So at first it was like a

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 3>shock to find out that she was with someone for

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I was so young, but I wanted to be like

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 3>happy for him and okay, and she's like all right,

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to have a companion, So I got I

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 3>was okay with it. I got used to it. She's

0:51:56.600 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 3>really nice and whatever. But you know, since my parents separated,

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 3>they my dad just kind of he wasn't the same dad.

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 3>He hasn't been the same dad to them, and he's

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 3>as he was to me, as in just like not

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:16.240
<v Speaker 3>showing up too, you know, sporting events or you know not. Also,

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 3>he just stopped financially helping with my mom and like

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:23.760
<v Speaker 3>doesn't pay for child support or health bills or anything,

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 3>and so he doesn't help. And that just makes me,

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 3>as the older sibling, you know, I just I have

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:36.399
<v Speaker 3>a lot of anger and I don't I'm not I'm

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:40.879
<v Speaker 3>not an angry person, and so I have so much

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:44.320
<v Speaker 3>anger for this one person that is like my dad,

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 3>and so that's it's a I don't know, it's a

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 3>shitty thing to feel, but it's hard when, like, you know,

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I just had my birthday a month ago and he

0:52:55.680 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 3>made plans to get lunch and cancel them scheduled and

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 3>canceled the rescheduling because he said his car broke down,

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.760
<v Speaker 3>which I'm like, okay, he could suber, you could uber,

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 3>I could stick you up. It's not an excuse. So

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 3>it feels like there's all these things that just don't

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 3>line up that makes it feel like that I should

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 3>should I should forgive him, and just like you know, so.

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:31.279
<v Speaker 1>You're you're twenty six. It has it always been like

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:31.919
<v Speaker 1>this with him?

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Not since I guess like a couple of years after

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 3>the divorce. Like when I was younger in high school,

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I was way closer with my dad than I was

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 3>with my mom, and then it switched. It's when I

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 3>left for college, and then all this happened, because it's

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 3>all happened when I was away for college, so you know,

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't home to be there through like the really

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 3>hard part of it, like the first two years, and

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 3>that was my sibling that went through it all, and

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.439
<v Speaker 3>and I was away, and then I came back after

0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 3>I graduated, and now I'm I just kind of started

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:13.320
<v Speaker 3>to see what the result of like everything happening, and

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 3>just you know, it's just not fair, and it's not

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 3>about like fairness, and like it's just more of I

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 3>want my siblings to like have had experienced the same

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.239
<v Speaker 3>dad that like I got the experience of who was

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 3>the person taking me to practices and showing up to everything.

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Have you told him that you're pissed off at him?

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Have you expressed to him that you know you felt

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 1>like you guys used to be closer, Well, you say

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you said he knows. Yeah, but what makes you say

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>he knows?

0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Because I did have so it was after I came back,

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 3>like I lived, so I did live with him for

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:59.479
<v Speaker 3>about seven months with him and his girlfriend at the time.

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Now why it was up and down, but it can

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 3>end on a great note. But I did talk to him,

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 3>and I'm very honest. I guess I'm not someone that

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 3>really holds back how I feel. But I guess it's

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 3>because I have expressed that to him so many times already,

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 3>and I've had like sit down lunches with him where

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 3>I've just said, like, you know, just show up to

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 3>my sister's game, show up to my brother's game, just

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 3>like be there. Why can't you just do that? And like, yeah,

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, he he's a salesman. He is really good

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:35.720
<v Speaker 3>at being all talk and then when it comes down, yeah.

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's he's he's he's trying to play people like

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a fiddle.

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Really good salesman, Atlanta. Dude.

0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:48.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that it's cool that you care

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 1>so much about your your siblings and your that that

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you want them to have, uh, the same experience with

0:55:59.880 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>your dad that you have a question.

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah sure, yeah, I have a question, So do you

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 3>think that I, like you just said, like should I

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 3>is it right for me to have these emotions that

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 3>are not really attached directly to me, Like it's not

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 3>like he's, yeah, he didn't cancel my birthday whatever, but

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 3>it's not like the big things. He didn't directly do

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<v Speaker 3>it to me. It's been like to my family, like

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<v Speaker 3>to my sibilians and like my mom. So is it

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<v Speaker 3>right for me or to feel this kind of anger

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<v Speaker 3>with the things that he's done, not even too many

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<v Speaker 3>people I love? Or should I be able to have

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<v Speaker 3>that separation of like you know, because I still love it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like at the end of the day, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you are mad at him, but like I love him

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<v Speaker 3>and I care about him.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what I'll tell you here, Like my my

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<v Speaker 1>my thoughts is are you right to be mad? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that feelings necessarily need a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of justification, Like are you right to be mad? Who

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<v Speaker 1>fucking cares you're mad? You know, it doesn't whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it's right, But I do. I do think this

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<v Speaker 1>is something I've kind of been meditating on lately, is

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<v Speaker 1>like there's only so much shit that's in your control,

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<v Speaker 1>like how your dad treats your siblings. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's valid that it makes you mad, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at how that anger is serving you,

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<v Speaker 1>like it is it propelling you to make some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of conscious choice or take some sort of conscious action

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<v Speaker 1>to your or anyone's benefit, Because at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I feel like, while while I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's noble of you, you clearly are a person

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<v Speaker 1>that cares a lot about other people, that cares a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about your family, But I think that it might

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<v Speaker 1>serve you to accept the fact that you can't control

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<v Speaker 1>the actions of your dad. You can control how you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him, you can control how you treat him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can control how you treat your siblings. And it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like from what you've told me, you've done all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you seems like you can. You've been honest,

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>You've told him how you feel. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>put as much effort as you want or don't want

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<v Speaker 1>into cultivating a relationship with him. But the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I think there does need to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of acceptance that you can't control his behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't you can't. As much as you as much

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<v Speaker 1>as you try, you can't make him act any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of way to you or to your siblings. But you

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>have but you have other things. But you have other

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<v Speaker 1>things in your control, Like you control how you act

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<v Speaker 1>to your siblings. So like, if you see something, if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like there's things that you got as a

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<v Speaker 1>kid from your dad that you didn't that you see

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<v Speaker 1>your siblings not getting and that pains you to see

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<v Speaker 1>them not get it, Well, what can you do to

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<v Speaker 1>give it to them?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you be more you know, loving and thoughtful toward

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<v Speaker 1>your siblings. That's something that's in your control to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't make your dad do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can sort of fill in the gaps that he's leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>right And you know, I feel like that is a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of productive application of your anger, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I would say take your anger. Take your anger,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have it. You have your anger, and it's

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>valid anger. Take it and apply it toward the transmute it.

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<v Speaker 1>Apply it towards the things that you can control. You

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<v Speaker 1>can control how you act towards your dad, You can

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<v Speaker 1>control how you act towards your siblings. But you cannot,

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<v Speaker 1>under any circumstances, control how he acts towards them. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about all that?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I completely agree with you. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>do put, like, you know, expectations on people, and I

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<v Speaker 3>get really hurt when you know they're not met. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's just people are human and it's not fair to

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<v Speaker 3>set any preconceived expectation on anyone, so you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I do my best to like you know, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>like fill the gaps like I you know, drove. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>take my sister to tournaments and like you know, other states,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll spend time with her. And now that I've

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<v Speaker 3>moved back in you know, under my mom's new place,

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<v Speaker 3>but with my sister or sharing a bathroom, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a good opportunity for us to like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, build our relationships and kind of be

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<v Speaker 3>that stiller. And she looks at me like a mom

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<v Speaker 3>too much, because I'm like eight years older than her,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I don't want to be and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want her to be because it's like I want her to

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<v Speaker 3>look at me as like my sister, not like an

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<v Speaker 3>older sister that she can talk to, not like an

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<v Speaker 3>older mom.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, listen, I'm glad to hear that you are

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<v Speaker 1>finding ways to like transmute this anger. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to leave you with some sort of thesis

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever this of of you know what this call is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the solution would be to transmute that anger

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<v Speaker 1>into u you know, productive things that you can do

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself and your siblings, which it sounds like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing so, you know, props to you for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as we're talking about filling in those gaps before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>world or to they? You gotta go on the computer,

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<v Speaker 1>m do you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for taking my call. I called like four.

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<v Speaker 1>Times and hit time you know any times.

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<v Speaker 3>I know and you know, I know you don't. This

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<v Speaker 3>is your platform originally wasn't for like therapy for people.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just to talk. But I appreciate you always

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<v Speaker 3>offering up the platform to like, you know, give advice.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, I appreciate I appreciate that I get I

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<v Speaker 1>give a shot anytime I I feel like I can,

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<v Speaker 1>I try, I try, and I try to.

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<v Speaker 3>At least.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I ever want is to be some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a guru. But if I have a thought

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds that in my head, I'm like, this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it kind of makes sense. I will, I will.

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<v Speaker 3>You've always sounded genuine and it's like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like people that I've listened to you like know

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<v Speaker 3>that you're actually genuine and you'll listen to whoever talk

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<v Speaker 3>about whatever. But ayways, I won't take any more of

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<v Speaker 3>your time. But thanks, and I hope you have a

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<v Speaker 3>good rest to your night.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling, Alana Ghek bless you. Never be

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<v Speaker 1>kid goes on the line making your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 3>Never be Kid goes doing his eye.

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<v Speaker 6>He's teaching you loud liver your life, but he's not

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<v Speaker 6>really an expert.