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Speaker 2: Well essentially, yeah, because like it's not even like it's

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Speaker 1: Hello is this Ben?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: This is Ben. It says here that you can only

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Speaker 1: Is this? Is this z accurate?

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Speaker 2: So there's kind of a story behind this burst that

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Speaker 2: will make it make sense. Would you like to hear that?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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Speaker 1: I'm more curious what you mean by makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like saying it right off the bat

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Speaker 2: in general, it makes it sound very like odd. But

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Speaker 2: I feel like if I give you the explanation behind

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, sure, go ahead? What is uh?

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Speaker 3: What is?

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Speaker 1: What is the origination?

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Speaker 2: So this originally started whenever I realized that So I

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Speaker 2: I know that and I've never had a problem like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I would always like watch like the most like raunchy

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Speaker 2: So I don't like I'm more or less looking for

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Speaker 2: some advice. If you think that's like is if like

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Speaker 2: I've desensitized like my mind in a way, if it's

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Speaker 1: Would I get out of? Okay, you're watching a ton

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Speaker 2: Well essentially, yeah, because like it's not even like it's

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Speaker 1: Hmm, and the fucked up type stuff that you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a desire in real life to to

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Speaker 2: I personally think it's like really disgusting even just like

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Speaker 2: of wondering. I remember mentioning about how like desensitizing actually

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, definitely. I mean, look, I'm no brain chemist person,

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Speaker 1: I have no explanation of the chemistry and whatnot, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Although I feel like anime girls, that that has gotta

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Speaker 2: Like at this point, I feel like, like, did I

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Speaker 1: You know, you spoken to a doctor about this?

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Speaker 2: No, because I know it's not necessarily it's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: So are you just wondering if your your excessive porn

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean did It's It's as I said. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And then too, you know, I know you say you're

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Speaker 2: I like, how would you word that to a doctor

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Speaker 1: You know, so like you gotta let you gotta let

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Speaker 1: gotta let go of the shame. You love big anime titties,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Lots of people love big anime titties.

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Speaker 1: That's why they're drawing so many of them. You think

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Speaker 2: Would you then go to the doctor and walk in

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Speaker 1: Fuck? Yeah, I would go into that. I would say, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm addicted to anime titties and I need your I

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Speaker 1: what do you What do you think is gonna laugh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds ridiculous, sounds disgusting.

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Speaker 1: It's it's what's going on with you, though it's your truth,

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Speaker 1: own it. It's you. It's what's going on. The shame

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Speaker 1: is only making it worse. Will you do that for me?

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Speaker 1: Will you? Will you? And I don't know, I can't,

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Speaker 1: I I can't you know, hold your hand through Uh,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like I like I already have an appointment

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Speaker 1: No fuck? No no no no no no. This is

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Speaker 1: You love anime titties and it's making your dick not work.

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Speaker 2: So what's the girl I was seeing? I remember this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, here's the thing. Look, you only want

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Speaker 1: So like, look, if something's going on with your dick,

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Speaker 2: I'm confident about myself. I'm confident about the way I look.

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Speaker 2: But just like this like specific topic and like it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta own it, you, Ben, you got to

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Speaker 1: It's not because of you. You're great. I've just been

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Speaker 1: Will you call you call your mom on the phone.

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Speaker 1: A good night. Hello, Hello, Olivia Mile.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how are you. I'm doing all right? How are you.

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Speaker 1: Olivia? It says here that you troll phone scammers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that is true. So yeah, I started doing this

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Speaker 1: Is this like a like a I'm not anythink about coding,

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Speaker 6: Something essentially, Yes, attacked with knowledge about how telephone works

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Speaker 1: So how long have you been running this operation?

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if I would call it

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Speaker 1: Right, I was gonna say, this is a great example

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Speaker 1: You can't. I mean, there's there's whatever. However, many thousands

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Speaker 6: At this point? From what I have done, it's been

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Speaker 1: Makes sense, right, Yeah, No, of course, if you make

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: And you know, if there was a way to make this,

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Speaker 6: Well it's not even like a doomsday thing. It's just

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Speaker 6: to use like non technical terms because it did very

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Speaker 1: Well, Okay, you shouldn't have to dumb yourself down to

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Speaker 1: get to my level. What but the the the purpose

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 6: I would want to disincentivize phone scamming altogether to the

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Speaker 6: maybe I can't like to feed it, right, But if

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Speaker 1: Can I bring something up that maybe will be inspiring

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Speaker 6: That does make me feel better. I wonder what else

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Speaker 6: But this was a point that you brought up just now.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so I feel like the well, let me

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Speaker 1: know if you're into bitcoin or whatever, but whenever you

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Speaker 1: then you text Jessica Williams and Jessica Williams is like, hey,

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Speaker 8: Who?

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Speaker 1: At what point do we take personal responsibility? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have no opinion either way, but

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think I think as we age

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Speaker 6: Dan the Man ninety five, I don't remember who you said.

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Speaker 1: I think I said, you know, but who you could

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Speaker 3: But I.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's think I'm going to try to trick

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Speaker 6: At what edekay?

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Speaker 1: At what age? Is it your faults? If a scammer

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Speaker 3: At what age?

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Speaker 6: When should you know better from like from here on out?

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Speaker 1: From here on out? What's the cutoff?

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, So if you're twenty seven and Jessica Williams

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Speaker 6: I would say, Dan the man, Where have you been?

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Speaker 1: Olivia? Is there anything else you want to talk about

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Speaker 6: No? That's that.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel satisfied with this conversation?

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Speaker 6: I really do.

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Speaker 1: Thank you le of course, have a good night, Olivia.

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Speaker 3: You do, by.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Carly, Hi, what is life like?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say it says here that you just

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Speaker 1: made a fake Instagram account to stuck your ex boyfriend? Yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: How recently did you guys break up?

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Speaker 5: Like last month? Like on Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 1: Guy's just been it's been a full months.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, and it's still like still deep fresh wound.

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Speaker 1: How long were you guys together?

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Speaker 5: We were off and on for three years.

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Speaker 1: Off and on for three years. What inspired you to

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Speaker 5: So when we broke up? Like I couldn't stand seeing

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Speaker 5: I was looking at his location on snapshot and he

440
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 5: wasn't at his house and they started to freak out

441
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 5: because he is talking to the new girl I heard

442
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: from his friend. I was freaking out. I was texting

443
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 5: my friend Zac. I'm just like, do you know where

444
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 5: she lives? And I sent a screen out of his

445
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 5: location and he's like, how the hell am I supposed

446
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 5: to know? And then like I checked it again and

447
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: then he was back at his house, so he was

448
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 5: most likely driving on his way home.

449
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: Why do you think you're doing this? What are you

450
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: like hoping to gain from following him on Instagram and

451
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: uh looking at his location? Like what what is the

452
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: end game here? Well?

453
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 5: You know how I said, we were off and on

454
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 5: like situations like this has happened before with us, Okay,

455
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: not as bad as this time, but that's why it

456
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 5: kind of hurts the most. But like I'm kind of

457
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: like praying like a few months, like on he'll like

458
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: be through with that girl, and like I can like

459
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 5: slide back and be like, hey, what's up? So you

460
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 5: want to get back together?

461
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Carly says, you're eighteen?

462
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: Right?

463
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

464
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: What are you still in high school? Are you freshmen

465
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: in college?

466
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 6: What are you?

467
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: Where are you at?

468
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, I'm still in high school. Okay month away

469
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 5: from graduation?

470
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: Okay, two months away from graduation. What are he plans

471
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: after graduation?

472
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: Honestly, I'm trying to move out of my parents' house, well,

473
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 5: my dad and my stepmom's house, and recently had a

474
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: fight with my mom. But I kind of need a

475
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 5: place to stay in the area of the community college

476
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 5: that I'm to be going to, so I'm thinking about

477
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 5: making up with her so i can get a place.

478
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea at all. I guess the

479
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: reason why I I'm asking you that is cause like

480
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: you're at a You're at a super interesting point in life,

481
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, graduating high school, where the world is so

482
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: vast and open to you. There's infinite possibilities for you

483
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: to do whatever it is you want to do. I

484
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: genuinely believe that I'm not saying it is like feel

485
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: good bullshit. So to to be stalking your ex on

486
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: social media, whatever stalking means, and to be really fixated

487
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: on the possibility of getting back with him, it is

488
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: to just go complete tunnel vision, uh, and not even realize,

489
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: even though it's just right in front of your right

490
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: in front of your face, not even realize depth of opportunity,

491
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: the depth of people out there in the world that

492
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: there is the possible abilities are truly endless for you

493
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: at this point. And so in light of that, why

494
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: would you want to continue to fixate on this guy.

495
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: You know what, what are what are some things that

496
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: you like want to do? Like do you have do

497
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: have hobbies? Do you have interest? Do you have like

498
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: aspirations of any kind?

499
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 5: Honestly, this year has been really rough, so I've lost

500
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: a lot of.

501
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: Like those motivations.

502
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: He was my best friend and like I before he redated,

503
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: you were best friends. And like, he's the person I

504
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: talked to you every day more than like my actual friends.

505
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 5: So like, that was the person I leaned on. That

506
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 5: was the person I planned on having a somewhat of it.

507
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 5: Like I knew it probably wouldn't last like forever, but

508
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 5: like I guess a little bit longer. Like we have

509
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: a cat together. My sister's holding currently taking that cat

510
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 5: back now she's I'll refuse.

511
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: To give her up.

512
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: I think your time and you seem you know, you

513
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: seem like a smart and away of person. I'm sure

514
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: you know this already, but you know your time that

515
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: you're spending, uh you know, conniving on Instagram and snapchat. Uh.

516
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: It it is a it is a race to the bottom.

517
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I want you to understand that you do you do

518
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: you you know I beneath the sort of addiction brain

519
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: that you know we've all experienced that is very like

520
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: a sort of brainwashy type of vibes beneath all that.

521
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: Do you do you recognize how it's a right to

522
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: the bottom.

523
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: Yes, but I do realize it's like not a healthy thing.

524
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: But like, I don't have anything else to focus on

525
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 5: right now.

526
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: That's exactly it. That's exactly it, you know. And if

527
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: you don't have anything to focus on, uh, what are

528
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You're gonna go on Instagram, you go

529
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: on Snapchat. You're gonna be like, oh, he's at the park,

530
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: he's at the fucking ice skating rink, whatever it is,

531
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: because you have anything else to focus on. This is

532
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: a good place you're at right now because you're not

533
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: in denial. You know, you understand, you recognize that what

534
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: you're doing. You know, you might as you kind of

535
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: sort of put it, that you're you're you almost feel

536
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: like you're not in control, you know, but you're recognizing

537
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: a lot of these things that you're not in control,

538
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: that that it is a race to the bottom. It's

539
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: good that you know that. So, I mean, we know

540
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: we know that we're where that we are are our

541
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: actions are not productive and and sometimes even a little destructive.

542
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Uh So, like what could we replace this with? Like

543
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 1: what are you going to study? And you said you're

544
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: going to community college? Right, yeah, what do you what?

545
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: What are we studying a community college?

546
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 5: I really don't have a full plan yet, but like

547
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 5: since I was younger, I've always had this idea of

548
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 5: being a debt. So most likely like veterinary science.

549
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Word word word word word word, it's a good place

550
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: to start. I mean that's the general direction I feel. Uh,

551
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: is just that, like you need something, preferably that's not

552
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: other people, that's not some new guy, even that's not

553
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, your friend. I mean, it could be your friends,

554
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: but you'll preferably something that's Cats are nice. Taking care

555
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: of a cat, it's nice, gets your mind off of things,

556
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole Uh, you're providing for something else.

557
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: But like, what could you do that transmutes this energy

558
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: that you're spending on Instagram and snapchat into something more productive?

559
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't answer that question for you

560
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: because you only know you, but like, if you can

561
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: at least conscientiously show up every day knowing that that

562
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: is your objective, that is your next step. I think

563
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: you will eventually get there. Does that make does it

564
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: make sense? Do you agree with that?

565
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: Oh? You're right, You're right.

566
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: What do you think about all this?

567
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 5: It's a hard tell to swallow. And I get these things,

568
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: and I really do make an effort a lot. I

569
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 5: try to go out with my friends, Like I try

570
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 5: to go out on like on a date with somebody

571
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: else to get my mind off things. I try to

572
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 5: like like focus on my studies. Like I'm currently in theater,

573
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 5: so I'm trying to focus on my play. But like

574
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 5: it always goes back to that. But like, I guess

575
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 5: I just got to keep on pushing for.

576
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: More.

577
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: I guess, uh, I gotta do more things because I

578
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: feel like that's allowing myself time to think. And when

579
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 5: I think, that's when it like really gets bad.

580
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: Oh yes, no, no, no, you never want to think.

581
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: You never want to be alone with your thoughts. That's

582
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: the game. That's that's all this, that's the whole game

583
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: of everything. Why do you think I'm a get go

584
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: on the computer right now, Carly, just to get away

585
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: from let's stick, get away from the thoughts.

586
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 9: But but yeah, I feel like you're on a you're

587
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 9: on a good track where you're conscientiously showing up every

588
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 9: day with that in mind, and from there, at least

589
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 9: in my experience, it's gonna be about time.

590
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be about time. It's pretty fresh for

591
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: you a month. Yeah, but uh, I think time plus

592
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: uh awareness that uh stalking Snapchat is not the moves

593
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: is the way to go. And please, for the love

594
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: of God, delete those apps in that account.

595
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, you're right.

596
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: You to do it right now.

597
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll do it right now.

598
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: You do it right now.

599
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 5: I'm doing it right now.

600
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: Hey, you can delete both of them. Instagram never done

601
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: nothing good for anyone except accept those influencers that get

602
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: paid thirty thousand dollars to talk about water. Listen, Carly Jack,

603
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: bless you, good luck to you. Anything else you want

604
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: to say before we go?

605
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: Do you want a tarrat card reading?

606
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Ooh maybe another time.

607
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: Understandable, but hey, that's a good thing to.

608
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: Get into, you know, if we're talking about things that

609
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: you like doing, uh, tarrort card readings, start a small business,

610
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: whatever it is, just throwing ideas out there. Thank you, man,

611
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: appreciate Carly Forever. The cards have nothing to tell me

612
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: that I don't already know. I don't know if that's true.

613
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if the cards have to tell me.

614
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if the cards talk. I don't know

615
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: if I trust them.

616
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 7: Josh, Hey, how's it going?

617
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: How are you? Josh?

618
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 7: I'm well? How are you?

619
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm a gecko on the computer? How how can I

620
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: you know? I'm I'm I'm always I'm always sort of

621
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: torn about you know, if i'm. I was about to say,

622
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: how can I help you? But I don't know if

623
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can help you, Josh, unless

624
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: if you think I can? Do you think I can

625
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: help you with anything? Is there anything that you're fairly

626
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: certain I could help you with?

627
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 7: You could give me like an am I the asshole

628
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 7: evaluation on the little scenario?

629
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: I have?

630
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh for sure? What's the scenario?

631
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 7: I was in Colorado for a week doing a lot

632
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 7: of snowboarding, and we were indulging in the cannabis, and

633
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 7: so I brought this electric rig called a puff Goo

634
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 7: peak Pro. It's like four hund We were hitting that

635
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 7: the whole time, and then, like last night before we

636
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 7: flew out magically just like the glass shattered magically, like

637
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 7: I just someone walked over and saw it and told me,

638
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 7: and but like nobody nobody said anything about it, and

639
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 7: like everybody was like I didn't do that, but like

640
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 7: I don't know about you. I don't know if you've

641
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 7: ever used a bong, but like I feel like most

642
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 7: people know if they break something, like it's pretty apparent.

643
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 7: And everybody just like acted like they didn't know who

644
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 7: did it. And I got like visibly upset, was like

645
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 7: said some choice words and went to bed. And the

646
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 7: next day, uh, I like mentioned something else about it.

647
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 7: One of the guys got like crazy upset, so a

648
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 7: lot of like kind of harsh things to me, And

649
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 7: I don't know, I just feel like I'm not I

650
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 7: than like bijing Er an asshole in that situation, you know,

651
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 7: Like I feel like if they were my friends, they

652
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 7: could have just like owned up to it, like that

653
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 7: glass replacement was probably like seventy bucks. Like I could

654
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 7: give a fuck less about the glass, but like I

655
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 7: just wanted someone to tell me like that they did it.

656
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: No, it's the principle. It's like what you know, we've

657
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: been friends for how many years and you're not just

658
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna you know, we're all adults. You're not just gonna

659
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: own up and tell me that you broke this thing.

660
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's basically it. I was like, I mean, I

661
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 7: can easily replace this tomorrow, but like, why would you

662
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 7: just set it back? Like what if I did that

663
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 7: to your car? What? I just hate your car by accident?

664
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 7: And then like parked in the other spot and was like,

665
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 7: I don't know what happened to dog.

666
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: Hmm. So did you ever find out how many how

667
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: many guys were in this house?

668
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 7: I meet and three other dudes? One of the guys

669
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 7: does not smoke. He's completely out of the picture. I

670
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 7: know he wouldn't have even been near it.

671
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's too two of them, And to this point,

672
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: do they still adamantly deny that they had anything to

673
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: do with it?

674
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 9: Uh?

675
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, But the the one like the one didn't get

676
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 7: upset or anything. Uh, he's the one that actually brought

677
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 7: it up the shows to me because he was about

678
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 7: to use it, and he was like, yeah, I think

679
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 7: it's like broken at the top, and then I was

680
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 7: I said, like, you did it. The other guy didn't

681
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 7: really say much that night, and then the next day

682
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 7: he was the one that like got crazy upset.

683
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: You think he's got.

684
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 7: I feel like he has something to hide, Like why

685
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 7: would he slip out like that? Like it didn't it

686
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 7: didn't correlate. Like he just started, like, you know, like

687
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 7: taking like cheap shots at me and like attacking me

688
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 7: for all this stuff. And I was like, why are

689
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 7: you yelling? Like I wasn't yelling, you know, And I

690
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 7: don't know. I felt like he definitely did it, and

691
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 7: but I'd never accused him, you know. I just like,

692
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 7: let me.

693
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: Ask you something, this guy who you think did it?

694
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: What has your relationship been with him thus far? Like

695
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: is this something that is completely out of character for him?

696
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Because I assume you've known this guy for a decent

697
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: amount of time his trip with him, you have an

698
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: established record of of who he is and what your

699
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: relationship is like with him? What what is what does

700
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: that record look like?

701
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 7: Right? So I've probably known him for two or three years.

702
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 7: I met him through like a bunch of wake surfing guys,

703
00:42:51,800 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 7: and he is definitely kind of like an like altercative person.

704
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 7: I guess you could say, like I feel like he

705
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 7: kind of enjoys that.

706
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 8: He enjoys confectations ever towards like that's yeah, yeah, and

707
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 8: but like he's never really done anything towards like any

708
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 8: of us to make me basically what happened like out

709
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 8: of line for anything I've experienced within our friends group

710
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 8: around him. But I've seen him get upset.

711
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 7: With other people like on like the ski slopes and

712
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 7: stuff kind of similar to that.

713
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: M Okay, so you've observed him having a angry temperament

714
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, Now, are you, like, and look,

715
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: be honest with me, are you one hundred percent sure

716
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: that somebody broke your bong and that something freakish didn't

717
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: happen like a cat came in and put it down,

718
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: or the wind or anything like that. Are you like

719
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure this was this was the act

720
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: of a human.

721
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 7: I mean I had just used it like less than

722
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 7: five minutes before I went to sit down and eat,

723
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 7: and we were in an airbnb. There's like no animals

724
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 7: or anything. And as a heavy base, like you have

725
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 7: to like hit it with your hands and knock it

726
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 7: over or something. So I've I find it like kind

727
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 7: of hard to believe that would have just been like, oh,

728
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 7: an accidental like swing, because like if it got knocked

729
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 7: over or a form where it shattered, like it had

730
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 7: to have gotten picked back up because it was bick

731
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 7: back up.

732
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: Ooh, because it was standing back up, but it was damaged, right, Mmm,

733
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: detective work going into this, all right, So this guy

734
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: who you're pretty sure did it, because he's acting all emotional,

735
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: he's freaking out. I don't know because when you told

736
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: me that, if we're going, if we're playing detective here,

737
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: I feel like the person who brought it to you

738
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: could also be guilty. You know, we don't want to rule.

739
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 7: Him out record too, but like he was he I've

740
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 7: known him for like ten years. I lived with him

741
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 7: for like five years, and like we've both like broken

742
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 7: each other's last four and just honestly like told each

743
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 7: other and like just paid each other like whatever. Like

744
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 7: you know, it was never a big deal. I would

745
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 7: kind of trust him to tell me if if that

746
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 7: was him, So okay, and like that. Also, when the

747
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 7: other guy flipped out, he blamed it on my friend.

748
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 7: I've known him for ten years.

749
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: Oh so the other the guy who flipped out blamed

750
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: it on the guy even known for ten years.

751
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was like it was probably him, Like trying

752
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 7: to like clear himself.

753
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, this guy sounds super guilty. So mm hmm.

754
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: So listen, I mean, are you going to continue your

755
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: relationship with this guy who who you sort of now

756
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: know to act a fool in in a in a

757
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: in this manner.

758
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 7: Probably not. I mean, like my friend, my other friend,

759
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 7: like ten year friend and I were talking on like

760
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 7: a ski lift one of the days when it was

761
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 7: just us, and he has some thoughts about it too,

762
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 7: and said he might stop hanging out with him after

763
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 7: this trip, and then all this stuff happened after that.

764
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so this guy, he's this is not an isolated

765
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: incident of of bad things.

766
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 7: Seem Yeah, it seems like it seems like all of

767
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 7: us has slowly been kind of catching onto things.

768
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. Well, it sounds like you have

769
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: your plot forward established here in terms of whether or

770
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: not you're gonna hang out with this guy again.

771
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's definitely a big no.

772
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: What kind of bong was it again? The say It

773
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: Say one more time?

774
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 7: The puff goo peak pro Are you gonna buy another one? Yeah?

775
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 7: I'll probably just go get a glass replacement piece the

776
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 7: next few days I guess I usually just only use

777
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 7: this for traveling anyway, so it's not like pressing.

778
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: But you have a you have a travel one, a

779
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: home one.

780
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 7: I have like yeah, like an actual piece of glass.

781
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 7: This is more like electric setup kind of.

782
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 3: Hm.

783
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

784
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: people before we go?

785
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 7: Veiled back balls are really sick. If you've never hit

786
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 7: those up, definitely do it.

787
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: What is it?

788
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 5: Uh?

789
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 7: The veil back balls at Veil resort, Veil resorts.

790
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: Like, all right, this is this is the scene of

791
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: the crime here.

792
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 7: That's that's where we were. We were at Veil, Breckenridge, Teystone,

793
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 7: Beaver Creek. Yeah, over five days. We hit four resorts

794
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 7: over five days, and we hit Veiled twice.

795
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like aside from this long breaking incident,

796
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: it was a pretty good weekend.

797
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I had the GoPro three sixty. That thing

798
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 7: is so cool. Have you ever used it?

799
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: No?

800
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: I haven't. I got to get one though, because I

801
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: want to do my gek walk things with that, So

802
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do you have a code?

803
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really cool. When you get it, sign up

804
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 7: for the GoPro subscription. It's fifty hours a year, I think,

805
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 7: and it's so worth it because if you break your GoPro,

806
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 7: they just replace it, no question, and you can It's

807
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 7: like unlimited cloud storage uploads, so all your videos you

808
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 7: can upload to their cloud and there's no limit to it,

809
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 7: which is pretty cool.

810
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: Well, Josh, I hope you're getting paid for this.

811
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 7: No, man, I'm just chilling on my couch.

812
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Have a good night, Josh, you too, man. Hello,

813
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: how's it going?

814
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: A lot?

815
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Tell me? Tell me everything? A lot of Well here, Alana,

816
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: it says here that you want to know if you

817
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: should be mad that you recently found out that your

818
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: dad got married a year ago and did not tell anybody.

819
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was something I could talk about for sure,

820
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: if you.

821
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: Want to talk about it, I I That's that's why

822
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: we're here. We're here to talk on the phone. Alana.

823
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: What's what happened here?

824
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: All right? Well, backstory, my dad and my parents separated

825
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: about six years ago, and about three years ago we

826
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: started dating this girl I don't want to say, I

827
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: don't care Keana, and we all met her at my

828
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 3: brother's eighteenth birthday party, which is at my dad's house,

829
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 3: I like family house. Before my parents separated, and when

830
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 3: we all pulled up and she was there, At first

831
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: I thought she was one of my brother's friends. And

832
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 3: I was like trying to she looked really like she

833
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: wasn't talking to anybody, and so I said, hey, do

834
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: you be a swimsuit or you know, need any direction

835
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 3: for bathroom or food? You know, let me know. She's

836
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: like no, I'm good. Do you have you? And I

837
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: was like, all right, have you seen Alan? I'm like

838
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: my dad and she's like yeah, I'm like yeah, I

839
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: think he's in inside. And she's like all right, cool, thanks,

840
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 3: and then she walked away and then kind of like clicked,

841
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: like is that the girl that my dad say? And

842
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 3: so she's found out she's my age, you know, one

843
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 3: year older than me. I think, so I'm twenty six,

844
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: she's twenty seven. So at first it was like a

845
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: shock to find out that she was with someone for

846
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: I was so young, but I wanted to be like

847
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: happy for him and okay, and she's like all right,

848
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: I wanted to have a companion, So I got I

849
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: was okay with it. I got used to it. She's

850
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: really nice and whatever. But you know, since my parents separated,

851
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: they my dad just kind of he wasn't the same dad.

852
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: He hasn't been the same dad to them, and he's

853
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: as he was to me, as in just like not

854
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 3: showing up too, you know, sporting events or you know not. Also,

855
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: he just stopped financially helping with my mom and like

856
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: doesn't pay for child support or health bills or anything,

857
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: and so he doesn't help. And that just makes me,

858
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: as the older sibling, you know, I just I have

859
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: a lot of anger and I don't I'm not I'm

860
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 3: not an angry person, and so I have so much

861
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 3: anger for this one person that is like my dad,

862
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: and so that's it's a I don't know, it's a

863
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 3: shitty thing to feel, but it's hard when, like, you know,

864
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: I just had my birthday a month ago and he

865
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: made plans to get lunch and cancel them scheduled and

866
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: canceled the rescheduling because he said his car broke down,

867
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 3: which I'm like, okay, he could suber, you could uber,

868
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: I could stick you up. It's not an excuse. So

869
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: it feels like there's all these things that just don't

870
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: line up that makes it feel like that I should

871
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: should I should forgive him, and just like you know, so.

872
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: You're you're twenty six. It has it always been like

873
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: this with him?

874
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: Not since I guess like a couple of years after

875
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: the divorce. Like when I was younger in high school,

876
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: I was way closer with my dad than I was

877
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: with my mom, and then it switched. It's when I

878
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: left for college, and then all this happened, because it's

879
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: all happened when I was away for college, so you know,

880
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't home to be there through like the really

881
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: hard part of it, like the first two years, and

882
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 3: that was my sibling that went through it all, and

883
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 3: and I was away, and then I came back after

884
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 3: I graduated, and now I'm I just kind of started

885
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 3: to see what the result of like everything happening, and

886
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: just you know, it's just not fair, and it's not

887
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: about like fairness, and like it's just more of I

888
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: want my siblings to like have had experienced the same

889
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: dad that like I got the experience of who was

890
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: the person taking me to practices and showing up to everything.

891
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: Have you told him that you're pissed off at him?

892
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: Have you expressed to him that you know you felt

893
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: like you guys used to be closer, Well, you say

894
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: you said he knows. Yeah, but what makes you say

895
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: he knows?

896
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: Because I did have so it was after I came back,

897
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: like I lived, so I did live with him for

898
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 3: about seven months with him and his girlfriend at the time.

899
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: Now why it was up and down, but it can

900
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: end on a great note. But I did talk to him,

901
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: and I'm very honest. I guess I'm not someone that

902
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: really holds back how I feel. But I guess it's

903
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: because I have expressed that to him so many times already,

904
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: and I've had like sit down lunches with him where

905
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: I've just said, like, you know, just show up to

906
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: my sister's game, show up to my brother's game, just

907
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: like be there. Why can't you just do that? And like, yeah,

908
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: you know, he he's a salesman. He is really good

909
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 3: at being all talk and then when it comes down, yeah.

910
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah he's he's he's he's trying to play people like

911
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: a fiddle.

912
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: Really good salesman, Atlanta. Dude.

913
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: You know, I think that it's cool that you care

914
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: so much about your your siblings and your that that

915
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: you want them to have, uh, the same experience with

916
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: your dad that you have a question.

917
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, yeah, I have a question, So do you

918
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: think that I, like you just said, like should I

919
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: is it right for me to have these emotions that

920
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: are not really attached directly to me, Like it's not

921
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: like he's, yeah, he didn't cancel my birthday whatever, but

922
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: it's not like the big things. He didn't directly do

923
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: it to me. It's been like to my family, like

924
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: to my sibilians and like my mom. So is it

925
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: right for me or to feel this kind of anger

926
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: with the things that he's done, not even too many

927
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: people I love? Or should I be able to have

928
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: that separation of like you know, because I still love it.

929
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: It's not like at the end of the day, I mean,

930
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: you are mad at him, but like I love him

931
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: and I care about him.

932
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: But here's what I'll tell you here, Like my my

933
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: my thoughts is are you right to be mad? Of course,

934
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: I don't think that feelings necessarily need a whole lot

935
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: of justification, Like are you right to be mad? Who

936
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: fucking cares you're mad? You know, it doesn't whether or

937
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: not it's right, But I do. I do think this

938
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: is something I've kind of been meditating on lately, is

939
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: like there's only so much shit that's in your control,

940
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: like how your dad treats your siblings. You know, it's

941
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: it's valid that it makes you mad, but I think

942
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: you have to look at how that anger is serving you,

943
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: like it is it propelling you to make some sort

944
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: of conscious choice or take some sort of conscious action

945
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: to your or anyone's benefit, Because at the end of

946
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: the day, I feel like, while while I think it's

947
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: it's it's noble of you, you clearly are a person

948
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: that cares a lot about other people, that cares a

949
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: lot about your family, But I think that it might

950
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: serve you to accept the fact that you can't control

951
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: the actions of your dad. You can control how you

952
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: talk to him, you can control how you treat him,

953
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: you can control how you treat your siblings. And it

954
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: sounds like from what you've told me, you've done all

955
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: the things that you seems like you can. You've been honest,

956
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: You've told him how you feel. You know, you can

957
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: put as much effort as you want or don't want

958
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: into cultivating a relationship with him. But the end of

959
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: the day, I think there does need to be a

960
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: little bit of acceptance that you can't control his behavior.

961
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: You can't you can't. As much as you as much

962
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: as you try, you can't make him act any sort

963
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: of way to you or to your siblings. But you

964
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: have but you have other things. But you have other

965
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: things in your control, Like you control how you act

966
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: to your siblings. So like, if you see something, if

967
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: you feel like there's things that you got as a

968
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: kid from your dad that you didn't that you see

969
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: your siblings not getting and that pains you to see

970
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: them not get it, Well, what can you do to

971
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: give it to them?

972
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: Like?

973
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Can you be more you know, loving and thoughtful toward

974
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: your siblings. That's something that's in your control to do.

975
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: You know, you can't make your dad do it, but

976
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: you can sort of fill in the gaps that he's leaving,

977
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: right And you know, I feel like that is a

978
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: sort of productive application of your anger, you know. So

979
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: so I would say take your anger. Take your anger,

980
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: because you have it. You have your anger, and it's

981
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: valid anger. Take it and apply it toward the transmute it.

982
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: Apply it towards the things that you can control. You

983
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: can control how you act towards your dad, You can

984
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: control how you act towards your siblings. But you cannot,

985
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: under any circumstances, control how he acts towards them. What

986
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: do you think about all that?

987
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: No, I completely agree with you. And you know, I

988
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: do put, like, you know, expectations on people, and I

989
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: get really hurt when you know they're not met. And

990
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: it's just people are human and it's not fair to

991
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: set any preconceived expectation on anyone, so you know, and

992
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: I do my best to like you know, like you said,

993
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: like fill the gaps like I you know, drove. I'll

994
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 3: take my sister to tournaments and like you know, other states,

995
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: and I'll spend time with her. And now that I've

996
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: moved back in you know, under my mom's new place,

997
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: but with my sister or sharing a bathroom, and I

998
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 3: think it's a good opportunity for us to like kind

999
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: of you know, build our relationships and kind of be

1000
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: that stiller. And she looks at me like a mom

1001
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 3: too much, because I'm like eight years older than her,

1002
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: and so I don't want to be and I don't

1003
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: want her to be because it's like I want her to

1004
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 3: look at me as like my sister, not like an

1005
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: older sister that she can talk to, not like an

1006
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: older mom.

1007
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: But well, listen, I'm glad to hear that you are

1008
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: finding ways to like transmute this anger. I think if

1009
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: I had to leave you with some sort of thesis

1010
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: of whatever this of of you know what this call is,

1011
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: it's like the solution would be to transmute that anger

1012
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: into u you know, productive things that you can do

1013
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: for yourself and your siblings, which it sounds like you're

1014
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: doing so, you know, props to you for you know,

1015
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: as we're talking about filling in those gaps before we go,

1016
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1017
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: world or to they? You gotta go on the computer,

1018
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: m do you?

1019
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for taking my call. I called like four.

1020
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: Times and hit time you know any times.

1021
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: I know and you know, I know you don't. This

1022
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 3: is your platform originally wasn't for like therapy for people.

1023
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: It is just to talk. But I appreciate you always

1024
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: offering up the platform to like, you know, give advice.

1025
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1026
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate I appreciate that I get I

1027
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: give a shot anytime I I feel like I can,

1028
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: I try, I try, and I try to.

1029
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: At least.

1030
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: The last thing I ever want is to be some

1031
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of a guru. But if I have a thought

1032
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: that sounds that in my head, I'm like, this sounds

1033
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: like it kind of makes sense. I will, I will.

1034
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 3: You've always sounded genuine and it's like, you know, I

1035
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: feel like people that I've listened to you like know

1036
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: that you're actually genuine and you'll listen to whoever talk

1037
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: about whatever. But ayways, I won't take any more of

1038
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: your time. But thanks, and I hope you have a

1039
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: good rest to your night.

1040
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling, Alana Ghek bless you. Never be

1041
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: kid goes on the line making your phone calls every night.

1042
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: Never be Kid goes doing his eye.

1043
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 6: He's teaching you loud liver your life, but he's not

1044
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 6: really an expert.