WEBVTT - #751 Packers Unscripted: New York, New York

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here

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<v Speaker 1>from our studios at Lambellfield to talk Packers Giants Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night football. It's coming up from MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey and West This Giants team not having the

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<v Speaker 1>season that they envisioned. After an impressive run to a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff spot and chalking up a playoff victory last year

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<v Speaker 1>on the road in Minneapolis, the Giants started this season

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<v Speaker 1>two and eight. They are now four and eight after

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<v Speaker 1>back to back victories heading into their bye week. They

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<v Speaker 1>are now coming off the bye when they face the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers at home on a Monday night. Not the year

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<v Speaker 1>that they were looking for, but a team that with

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<v Speaker 1>these back to back victories heading into their buy you

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they're starting to figure something out.

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<v Speaker 2>Not easy to win in the National Football League, and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Giants have won back to back

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<v Speaker 2>games for the first time this season. The big message

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<v Speaker 2>that I had in our insider inbox calm this week

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<v Speaker 2>was the Packers have to proceed with confidence and caution.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the time to start overlooking opponents. The

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<v Speaker 2>greevad Packers don't have that benefit. When you're six and six,

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<v Speaker 2>you got five games to go, and you need every

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<v Speaker 2>single one of these victories possible to improve your situation,

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<v Speaker 2>to potentially make a playoff spot, and then maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>try to improve that positioning in the postseason. Yet, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't take anybody for granted. I think Tommy DeVito has

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<v Speaker 2>given this team some life. I know it was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of controversy earlier this week with the decision

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<v Speaker 2>that hey, Tyrod Taylor's back, but they want to still

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<v Speaker 2>run with DeVito. Yeah. I think that's the right call.

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<v Speaker 2>I respect Tyrod. He's had a tremendous career. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>have to go back to him at some point. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you've won back to back games, I know what

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<v Speaker 2>the opposition was. I know it wasn't they didn't beat

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<v Speaker 2>the Detroit Lions and the Kansas City Chiefs, But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more swagger in this team, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a team that has been struggling to have confidence lately.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have somebody that you feels odd hand,

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<v Speaker 2>you might as well ride him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the things that was certainly detrimental to

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<v Speaker 1>the start that the Giants got off to was when

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<v Speaker 1>running back Saquon Barkley had to miss I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was three games back in late September, mid October, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of in that range. When he came back from that injury,

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<v Speaker 1>he got on a pretty good run. He averaged about

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<v Speaker 1>ninety rushing yards per game for a stretch of five

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<v Speaker 1>games until the Patriots kind of shut him down that

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<v Speaker 1>last game before the Giants bye week. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>up there, you know, four and a half yards per

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<v Speaker 1>carry over a stretch of five games there. But this

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<v Speaker 1>offense has been They've struggled to protect their quarterbacks, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's been Daniel Jones or Tyron Taylor or Tommy DeVito.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also missing one of their downfield threats and tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Waller, who is injured and it sounds like he

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<v Speaker 1>will not be back for the game on Monday night

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<v Speaker 1>against the Packers. You look at this from the Packers' perspective. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>you absolutely cannot let Saquon Barkley get going. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to make this what has been a struggling passing game

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<v Speaker 1>for the Giants. You have to make them turn things

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<v Speaker 1>over to that struggling passing game and try to beat

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<v Speaker 1>you that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the number one key to victory in this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we'll talk about that later. But with

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<v Speaker 2>Saquon Barkley, when you talk about that season they had

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago, a lot of that I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Barkley, and it had to do with it

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I know Daniel Jones got the contract

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, Saquon Barkley is the one that ultimately pushed

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<v Speaker 2>into the postseason with his play throughout the course of

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<v Speaker 2>that year, kind of reminding everybody of what this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is capable of when he's healthy. Unfortunately for him, as

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<v Speaker 2>you talked about, wasn't healthy earlier this season, but showed,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, against the New York Jets he could still

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<v Speaker 2>be a belkow who touches the ball thirty plus times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in some of the you know, two weeks ago that

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<v Speaker 2>win over Washington to receiving touchdowns, again reminding you of

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<v Speaker 2>what this guy is capable of in space. And the

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<v Speaker 2>greenwad Packers have to have their intentas up for that

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<v Speaker 2>because the fact of the matter is the Giants offensively

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<v Speaker 2>as much as everyone's been so focused on the Jets,

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants have really struggled on offense this season. Two

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<v Speaker 2>in New York, I think second the league right now

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<v Speaker 2>in scoring off or second to last in league excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>in scoring offense, in dead last and total yards. They

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<v Speaker 2>have not been able to move the ball effectively. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about that in a second. There's been some

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<v Speaker 2>positives there, but offensively it's been pretty lethargic. They haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of guys step up in the passing game. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're the Green bit Packers, it starts with Saquon Barkley,

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<v Speaker 2>starts with pressuring de Vito, and from there allowing your

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<v Speaker 2>secondary to handle the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, we've talked obviously over the last couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>about how important these fast starts have been for the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and how detrimental that was earlier in the season

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<v Speaker 1>when it was taking so long for the offense to

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<v Speaker 1>get going. This New York Giants team wes scored sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>points in the first quarter the entire season. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, the Packers were at twenty

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<v Speaker 1>points in the first quarter through ten games but this

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<v Speaker 1>is now sixteen points for the Giants through twelve games

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<v Speaker 1>in the first quarter. If you want getting off to

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<v Speaker 1>getting off to a good start on the road, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a primetime game. This is this is a big

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<v Speaker 1>time opportunity for the Packers to do that and to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the Giants struggling in the early portions of games.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and pressuring the quarterback here too, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're looking at these numbers that they've given up

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<v Speaker 2>this so far the season, what DeVito's already been sacked

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight times? I mean, is this I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if it was this extreme. They have sixty nine

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<v Speaker 2>sacks allowed? Is that my reading that? Right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's actually a number. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>look so so Daniel Jones thirty. I knew Divito was

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<v Speaker 2>already at twenty eight because that's been a big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But Daniel Jones sacked thirty times, Divito sacked twenty eight times,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Tyrod Taylor was sacked ten times. My goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it shows you why we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the people talking and mentioning that the issues they've had

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<v Speaker 2>in pass protection. Evan Neil this week, I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>been another big topic in New York and what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>at right tackle. But be that as it may, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't take it for granted. For Shan Gary's pressuring, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Prescott Smith is pressuring, well, you have to be confident

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<v Speaker 2>going in this matchup. You have to show that we

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<v Speaker 2>are the team that has won three in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're the team that has won four of our

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<v Speaker 2>last five and we are turning a corner. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it on there couturf yep, and you're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>against an opponent that obviously has a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>of a hunger along with them after this recent uptick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, on the defensive side of the ball, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost the opposite in a sense, because defensively against

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<v Speaker 1>the pass, this is a team you have Caveon Thibodeau

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<v Speaker 1>with eleven sacks eleven of the team's twenty one. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually has more than half of their sacks. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have Thibodeaux with eleven, you have Dexter Lawrence with four.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy is a beast in the middle of any

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line. They have twelve interceptions against the pass, two

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<v Speaker 1>of them are turned for touchdowns. Opposing quarterbacks have just

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<v Speaker 1>an eighty three point four passer route against them on

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<v Speaker 1>the season. But the flip side of it is they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to stop the run. They're giving up

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<v Speaker 1>four point eight yards per carry on the season. They've

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<v Speaker 1>allowed eighteen rushing touchdowns. They've allowed more rushing touchdowns than

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<v Speaker 1>passing touchdowns defensively, which almost is unheard of in this

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<v Speaker 1>day and age of the NFL. So again, like the statistics,

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<v Speaker 1>the blueprints sort of lays itself out that you pound

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<v Speaker 1>the ball with aj Dillon, you make them stop the run,

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<v Speaker 1>which they've struggled to do. It ought to open some

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<v Speaker 1>things up for Jordan Love. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be cognizant of protecting the football because

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<v Speaker 1>twelve interceptions is no small number. These guys have taken

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<v Speaker 1>it away. They're fifth in the league in third down defense.

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<v Speaker 1>When they get you in third down, they can make

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<v Speaker 1>life difficult for you, and that's when you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be conscious of protecting that ball.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the wink Martindale's defense. We've had so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>said so much about him over the years, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know people, despite the numbers, really hold him in high regard.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there in New York of what he's done there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been this feast or famine kind of unit

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<v Speaker 2>so far this season. But Keevon Thibadeau is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that I was super impressed with. I joked. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>with the draft, I was like, man, if somehow he

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<v Speaker 2>would have fallen to green Bay, what a great pick

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been. With him coming out with the

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<v Speaker 2>green and gold suit from orgon green and yellow suit

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<v Speaker 2>from Oregon, I've been perfect for green Bay. But the

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<v Speaker 2>guy has eleven of their twenty one sacks so far

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<v Speaker 2>this season. He is their pressure force there. Dexter Lawrence

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<v Speaker 2>is coming off I think the first game he's ever

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<v Speaker 2>missed of his career with the hamstring. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>from what Brian Dabble said that he will be back

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<v Speaker 2>for this one or it's trending that way. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't practice on Tuesday, But they have some legit

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<v Speaker 2>playmakers on that side of the ball, and as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>if they do when the opportunities that they get where

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<v Speaker 2>they do stop the run and they get you in

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<v Speaker 2>third downs, they get off the field for green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>standpoint though, especially coming off offor rmans like they had

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<v Speaker 2>against Kansas City. I don't know what the status is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be with Aaron Jones here, but you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to go north and south on this team.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be able to set that up because

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<v Speaker 2>if you do, it makes everything easier for Jordan Love,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes everything easier for this Packers offense. And the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity is there, you have to execute on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I mean Thibodeau. Thibodeau is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>he was I guess, you'd say, taking a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>criticism as a rookie because he was such a high

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick and didn't really burst on the scene the

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<v Speaker 1>way everybody everybody was hoping for in New York. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing that guy develop. He's a he's a tough

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<v Speaker 1>customer on the edge. He's racking up the sacks this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think I don't think we've seen the

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<v Speaker 1>best of Dexter Lawrence this season, because man, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you and I talked about it last last winter.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was an absolute force in that playoff

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<v Speaker 1>game when they went into Minnesota and beat the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>in the wildcard round. And that's the that's the Dexter

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence you have to prepare for bad hamstring or not,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's capable. He's capable of causing all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>problems in the middle of that defensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean it shows you how tough and durable

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's been too, that he went this long, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for that to be what took him down

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<v Speaker 2>a hamstring to an interior defensive lineman, that tells you

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that was not a happy day for him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a pretty significant deal to sideline a defensive

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<v Speaker 2>lineman because a lot of times I remember Mike Daniels

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with it for a stretched during one of his

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<v Speaker 2>seasons too. If there's one position where sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 2>overcome the hamstring, it tends to be the interior stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But it took him down. If he's back out there,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that does another game changer for them. They

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<v Speaker 2>just are a very opportunistic bunch and if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the games in which they've won this season, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been executing. It's been finding those ways to sort of,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say manipulate, but being able to

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<v Speaker 2>capitalize on some of the mistakes the opposing offense is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay needs another clean ball game to come out

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<v Speaker 2>on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's certainly where the Packers offense has been trending,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want that trend to continue in that direct.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I did the look up the stats

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<v Speaker 2>here quick, I apologize I didn't do my research. Fully,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew the Giants offensive line has had some issues

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<v Speaker 2>this season. Sixty nine sacks allowed for the Giants. The

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<v Speaker 2>next closest is Washington at fifty eight, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>much maligned New York Jets offensive line fifty one. So

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of gives you an idea of how far

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<v Speaker 2>in front the Giants have been so far this season

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<v Speaker 2>as far as pressure on the quarterback. And honestly, that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been a recurring theme for them the last

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<v Speaker 2>few seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they they they found they definitely found something last

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<v Speaker 1>season with getting Daniel Jones on the move and even

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<v Speaker 1>with some design runs and whatnot, and and but but

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<v Speaker 1>that part of things it didn't come together for them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they took the they took it whatever, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>forty to nothing, you know, on the chin, right right

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gate Week one against the Cowboys, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just seemed like that was a that was a

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<v Speaker 1>blow that they that they haven't really recovered from. And

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<v Speaker 1>but again, to me, when you look at this game

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<v Speaker 1>from the Packers' perspective, Saquon b Sekon Barkley is the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that you're most concerned about, especially because the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>run defense throughout the course of the season has been

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<v Speaker 1>so up and down. Yeah, there have been games where

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers have played the run really really tough, but

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<v Speaker 1>we also know there are three games this season where

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers have allowed two hundred plus rushing yards and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they've lost all three of those. Those are three

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<v Speaker 1>of the six losses on the Packers ledgers. So obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>when we start talking keys to victory, which we might

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<v Speaker 1>as well do right now, stopping Saquon Barkley ranks at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the list. But the other one for me,

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<v Speaker 1>just knowing what we see in the numbers and what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen from this Giant's defense, is that is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers need their own ground game to be to

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<v Speaker 1>be reliable and productive throughout all four quarters of this game.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to just get into a drop back,

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<v Speaker 1>a straight drop back passing game against the secondary with

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<v Speaker 1>all those picks and against two pass rushers like Thibodeau

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<v Speaker 1>and Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you can't do it. And I feel like with

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<v Speaker 2>green Bay and looking at some of these statistics for

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants sixteen hundred and thirty three rushing yards allowed

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<v Speaker 2>so far this season, as you mentioned, the eighteen touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 2>four point eight yards per carrie, which I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>thirtieth in the NFL for most yards per carry allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>It does sort of set the blueprint there for what

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<v Speaker 2>has to happen in these games. And honestly, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>sound kind of dumb, it's gonna sound very basic, but

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<v Speaker 2>it really comes down to just scoring points. The Giants

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<v Speaker 2>are zero and five this year when they've given up

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<v Speaker 2>over thirty points. When you're not scoring, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>win those type of shootout games. And I think from

0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.320
<v Speaker 2>green Bay standpoint, when you're protecting the football and you're

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<v Speaker 2>running the football, well that is that's as simple as

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<v Speaker 2>it gets in terms of what you need to do

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<v Speaker 2>to execute this game. More headlines are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>about Jordan Love Now the guys eight touchdowns, no picks

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<v Speaker 2>the last three games. You know, people are throwing them

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<v Speaker 2>out there is one of the young up and coming

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks now funny how quickly a month can change things

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<v Speaker 2>in the eyes of the national pundits. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's mostly about the hole and Green. Let's just be honest, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>On paper, in recent results, they are the better football team. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't allow yourself to make the mistakes that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of haunted them earlier this season. You come out fast,

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<v Speaker 2>you sustain that. I think the path to victory is there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I thought it was very purposeful on the

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<v Speaker 1>part of Matt Lafleur when he addressed the media on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one of the reasons I wrote about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The story was actually posted Wednesday on our website. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go check it out with regard to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things with the Packers defense, because as impressive as

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<v Speaker 1>it was and holding Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs to nineteen points as a result, you will take

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<v Speaker 1>any day of the week and twice on Sunday, as

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<v Speaker 1>they say. But he made a point of emphasizing that

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<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of instances against Isaiah Pacheco where

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers had called a single safety defense, meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the safeties was down in the box as

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<v Speaker 1>an extra run defender to help against the run. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the guys, the guys didn't fit the gaps properly,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pachecko, against a defense designed to stop the run,

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<v Speaker 1>was able to get an explosive and gash them. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he specifically mentioned that on Monday because Saquon Barkley

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up, and because the Packers are going to

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<v Speaker 1>I think bring an extra run defender into the box

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit against Barkley in this game on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the biggest thing with the run defense. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to shore up. I mean, if you're gonna if

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<v Speaker 1>you need to sit back in certain situations to safeties,

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<v Speaker 1>the other team is going to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>some runs that you know, the five and six yard

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<v Speaker 1>runs like those are going to happen. When you call

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<v Speaker 1>a defense to stop the run, you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to stop the run at the line of scrimmage

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<v Speaker 1>or within a couple of yards of the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the Packers have to do. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to get that short up, they have to get the

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<v Speaker 1>gap fits right. You have to tackle better than you

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<v Speaker 1>did against Pachecko and the Chiefs, And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest emphasis defensively going into this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great point. I mean, Pacheco is a

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<v Speaker 2>different type of running back in Barkley, and that I

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<v Speaker 2>mean a lot of it. He doesn't have the size

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<v Speaker 2>of Barkley, but a lot of is based on expo

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<v Speaker 2>explosion and seeing how much he was running through contact.

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<v Speaker 2>Really just with pure speed. Barkley is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that's going to try to wear you down,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if he's fit for twenty five carries in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a four quarter battle in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But and last year out in London, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers had trouble with Barkley in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>is the game war on, It got harder and harder

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<v Speaker 1>to get him on the ground. And certainly the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>know what they did to be successful in London with

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley against the Packers last year. You know they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to turn back to that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, looking at the Giants very quickly, thirty first

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<v Speaker 2>in the league and third down offense when you give

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<v Speaker 2>up that may sacks, that's not too big of a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty point nine percent, thirty first in red zone offense.

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<v Speaker 2>So even when they've been getting down on drives, have

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<v Speaker 2>not been able to finish those off. And honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest stat that is just going to jump off the

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<v Speaker 2>page to you, nineteen points six percent sacks to pass attempts.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, every five times your quarterback's dropping back.

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<v Speaker 1>He's getting he's getting sacked.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty wild, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things to look at with regard to the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>playoff picture for this week. The first is what directly

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<v Speaker 1>involves the Packers, which is that all four of the

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<v Speaker 1>wild card contenders with the six and six records in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC, all of them are on the road. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are at the Giants the Rams are at the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings are at the Race, and the Seahawks are

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<v Speaker 1>at the forty nine Ers. So any thoughts you want

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<v Speaker 1>to share on those other games. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting when we talk about this cluster of teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are six and six, and I'm not including the

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons because they're leading their division technically not in the

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<v Speaker 1>wild card chase. At the moment that all four of

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<v Speaker 1>them are on the road in the same week, everyone's looking,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's looking to chalk up a road victory before coming

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<v Speaker 1>back home to friendly confine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and before I just touch on that, as you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned with that Falcons game, the Packers aren't a point

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<v Speaker 2>right now that they just cheer for the Falcons to

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<v Speaker 2>win any opportunity they get.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you want the Falcons to win the NFC South,

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<v Speaker 1>so they are not in the wild card picture because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a team that you lost to head to head.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a tie breaker comes into play, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be against the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So obviously from a Packers fan perspective, hoping for

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<v Speaker 2>them to hold serve there against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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<v Speaker 2>Some interestingly difficult matchups though, I mean the Rams having

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<v Speaker 2>to go into Baltimore with the way that Baltimore is

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<v Speaker 2>playing right now. Baltimore is another one of those teams

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<v Speaker 2>has gone through some adversity. They lose Mark Andrews, but

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<v Speaker 2>defensively have been continually be a tough unit to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to penetrate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's interesting too, because Matthew Stafford seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have that Rams offense cranked quite a bit. The Rams

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<v Speaker 1>offense that the Packers faced with Brett Rippen at quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever. The Rams are in a completely different place

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but that Ravens defense is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a big challenge for Stafford and Cup and Nikua and

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<v Speaker 1>those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>The fascinating thing too about the Rams is as much

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<v Speaker 2>as it's been built around Cup and Stafford, they are

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<v Speaker 2>just it's been like this since the beginning with McVeigh.

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<v Speaker 2>With the Rams too, they don't always prioritize the resources

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<v Speaker 2>put into the running back position, but that offense is

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<v Speaker 2>completely different whenever they have a productive running back. With

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<v Speaker 2>Williams back in the lineup and doing what he's been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The first game he had coming off of ir whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>he had one hundred and fifty rushing yards incredibly productive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though Nikoua and some of those guys have

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<v Speaker 2>been banged up a little bit, that sort of helped

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<v Speaker 2>them in that regard Seattle with a gut check game

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<v Speaker 2>now against San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they played the Niners at home very recently,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously on Thanksgiving Night. Then they had to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the road for a Thursday night game at Dallas, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then now they're hitting the road again to

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<v Speaker 1>go to San Francisco and playing the Niners for the

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<v Speaker 1>second time in three games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're desperately hoping you can get Kenneth Walker back

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<v Speaker 2>here and get him involved in that offense once again,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly with Gino kind of wondering what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get with him taking on a very stifling San Francisco defense.

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<v Speaker 2>But with the way that Christian McCaffrey is running the

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<v Speaker 2>ball brock Purty last week, I mean, I said it

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<v Speaker 2>on our last show. I mean, when you have a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback that is playing the system the way he's playing it,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's sometimes you overlook just how good Brock

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<v Speaker 2>Purdy has been as a quarterback in general. The kid

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<v Speaker 2>is doing all the right things to help that football

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<v Speaker 2>team win, and certainly that the forty nine ers when

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<v Speaker 2>you pressure him when he doesn't have Deebo Samuel Babel,

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<v Speaker 2>different football team. And then if I may just very

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<v Speaker 2>quickly to touch on this with Minnesota, this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of almost as big of a Josh Dobbs sort of

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<v Speaker 2>heat check as anything else and seeing, okay, is this

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the guy for us? You're going up

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<v Speaker 2>against Vegas who has had their own issues, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>on their turf. The Vikings, I think probably desperately are

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that Dobbs can perform here and look like the

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<v Speaker 2>guy he was early on because otherwise now you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to mount a playoff push with a quarterback controversy. So

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<v Speaker 2>what and that's never a good formula.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the Vikings are hoping that by sticking with

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<v Speaker 1>Dobbs and getting Justin Jefferson back from his injury, that

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<v Speaker 1>that combination that those two can maybe find, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to click. And you know, really the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line for Minnesota is it's been the turnovers. When

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>they turn the ball over, they look like a bad

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 1>football team, and they struggle to get victories and they

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.639
<v Speaker 1>look very poor in doing so when they protect the football,

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough team to beat. I mean, and it's

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 1>been it's been one or the other with the Minnesota

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Vikings so far this season. The other thing to look

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<v Speaker 1>at with regard to the NFC playoff picture, the big

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.919
<v Speaker 1>game everybody's going to be watching, of course, is the

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Sunday night football game. It's Philadelphia at Dallas. Dallas is

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<v Speaker 1>one game behind the Eagles in the NFC East race.

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<v Speaker 1>But where this could potentially get really interesting, Wes is

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<v Speaker 1>if the Niners beat the Seahawks, if the Lions win

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:39.560
<v Speaker 1>their game, and if the Cowboys beat the Eagles, you

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.439
<v Speaker 1>suddenly will have a four way tie for the number

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>one seed in the NFC with four games to go.

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.159
<v Speaker 1>And not saying that that's what's going to happen, but

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly very plausible that that's how that's where the

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>NFC playoff picture could be sitting after this week with

0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>four teams at ten and three and four games to

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>go to decide who gets that number one spot, and

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.159
<v Speaker 1>the first round by the only one now with that

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>only going to the top seed as opposed to the

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>first two like it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, this is what the NFL wanted, right,

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.360
<v Speaker 2>They wanted that type of battle not only for playoff

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, berths, but also the positioning to get that

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 2>number one seed. And if I'm mad a Eberflus in

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Chicago right now, I'm reminding my football team of exactly

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 2>what we did to the Detroit Lions a couple weeks,

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.400
<v Speaker 2>no questions, So that that's a game with a lot

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 2>on the line for them. Buffalo's trying to go to

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City. I mean, I think that's a huge game

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 2>for both of those teams for an entirely different reasons. Yeah,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 2>it is a very compelling Week fourteen slate of games

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 2>that are going to have huge implications for how the

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 2>rest of this thing goes. But Dallas, you know, Mike McCarthy,

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.919
<v Speaker 2>I saw the reports out there with the appendicitis. You

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 2>hope everything's going okay with him. What's his availability going

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 2>to be for that game against Philly? A lot to

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.639
<v Speaker 2>keep your eye on here as the Green Bay Packers

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>prepare for that game on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I had my emergency apendectomy last year on a

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night, and I was in the press box to

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>cover the game on Sunday, So Mike McCarthy Bert. I'm

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>just I'm kidding. I hope every time stood. I hope

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>everything is good with Mike and there. I mean, it

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 1>sounds like he is expecting to be able to be

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline on Sunday. So I don't mean to

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:21.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to make to make light of it,

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>but if you went through it last year, it's not fun.

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>But obviously sitting up in the press box with my

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>laptop is a little different than being on the sideline

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>with the headset and calling plays and trying to trying

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to you know, dodge three hundred pound guys making tackles.

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, we've seen not to go off on

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>too big of as we've seen, we've seen some like

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>ugly sideline collisions in NFL games this year. Like people

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>got to start protecting themselves a little bit more like

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>this is this is getting out of hand. I just

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I hate watching those moments in games where somebody just

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>very innocently, you know, on the sideline, a chain gang

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.479
<v Speaker 1>member or whatever the case might be, and uh and

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they you know, they need medical attention and all this,

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's like it's been happening too much in this league.

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes it hard for me to transition back,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to force it anyway. Could you have

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>stood for three hours covering that game last year after

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the appendectomy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could have.

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I could have.

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I could have stood.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean if I took your chair away, and I say,

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>if you asked you asked.

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Me to ask me to run down the sideline to

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>call a time out, you know when when when you've

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>got a bad look on offense or defense or whatever. No,

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been able to do that. But Stan standing

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>still a few days after, Yeah, I could have. I

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>could have probably pulled that off.

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but to your point, yeah, it's been it's been

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>very scary. You know that. I think that was what

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the chain game guys last week got a

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty bad deal. Yeah.

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Down in New Orleans it was the Detroit the Detroit

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans game.

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Gotta stay heads up, very fast, very athletic, very big

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 2>human beings.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's why you and I don't spend any time

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline. We just stay safe up in the

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 1>press box, not just because it's warm, but because we

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>we can protect ourselves up there.

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I will never forget as we can close out the

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 2>show on this Uh. I believe it was twenty sixteen.

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't it was was Was it after Farv got

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>his NF I think it was after Farv got his

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.919
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. He was getting a Super Bowl ring at

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 2>lambeauf or not a superring, his the Hall of Fame ring. Yeah,

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it was sixteen and they were doing the

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 2>halftime show. So I walked down early. I think I

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 2>was working for the Packers at that point. I think

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you stayed up in the press box. I went down

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 2>early to cover the halftime thing with Farvre and I

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>spent the last five minutes of the first half down

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>on the field. And that experience of watching I think

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.959
<v Speaker 2>Dallas was driving and so the defense was they had

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>their back to me, but they were getting into Green

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Bay territory and like Julius Peppers was out there and

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 2>like all these guys, and I'm like, it gave me

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.479
<v Speaker 2>a new appreciation not only for the speed of these guys,

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>but just how many monsters there are out there on

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the fields. It is startling. Yeah.

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Or earlier, earlier in my career, both with the Packers

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and when in the news paper business, there were moments

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>for different reasons where I would spend just brief periods

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines. Maybe I was, you know, running digital

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 1>cards for photographers or whatever the case might be. You

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>spend any time right on the sideline while the action

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>is going on in an NFL game, The speed of

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the game, the power of the collisions, as you said,

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the size of the players. I mean, it really hits

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>you when you are that, when you are that close

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to it, you know, hits you, no pun intended. You

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>realize that, you realize that the game that you're watching

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>on TV looks and feels a heck of a lot

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>different when you are right down there on the grass.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And I've always you know, filed away those memories because

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.959
<v Speaker 1>it is it is a different game. And you and

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I both spent plenty of time on high school sidelines,

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>even college games sidelines perhaps here and there. In the NFL, man,

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole different world.

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>And you might get a kid that that's a really

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>good tackler. You might get a kid that's really fast,

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Very rarely, at least in our part of the country.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you see the guy with the whole total package. Yeah,

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the probably the closest I came to that was Alec

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Ingold over at Bayport, and he was just a quick,

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of sized up quarterback. But it's just it's it's

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>incredible to watch, and it gives your respect and profound

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>admiration for what these guys do on a weekly basis

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>to get themselves ready for it. I was tired enough.

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It's Thursday morning. I think I finally came back today

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>as far as getting on my sleep schedule. And I

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>don't even have to do anything athletic.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now and and now we have to now we

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 1>have to do it again. And I don't know ones

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>are playing going to get back like three in the

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 1>morning or three thirty.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>And I gotta shoot daily on Tuesday morning.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>See, so yeah, well we'll we'll have to uh, we'll

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>have to readjust again next week. But hey, Packers are uh,

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Packers are in the playoff chase, and that beats the alternative.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>It's the best. It is the best thing to cover

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 2>December football when your team is in it. Yeah, it's

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing like it. They even you can see the

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>article views, you know, the engagement on stuff. People are

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 2>just revd up for it. Yeah and yeah Greenmit, Packer's

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>got five more to go here, trying to get another

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>one on Monday Night.

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>No question about it. With that, we'll call it a

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>rap on this edition of Packers Own Script To be

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>sure to follow all of our coverage of Monday night's

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>game from MetLife in New Jersey. We will have it

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>all for you on packers dot com for Wes, I

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>am Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time.