1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's the Almost Service podcast. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 3: We are one week away from the premiere of Taylor 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 3: Frankie Paul's season of The Bachelorette. We're wow mind blowed 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: by that. ABC just teased as with a before the 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: first rows. It was aired after the oscars. I got 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: on our zoom and I said to producer or Heather, 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: I go, I really enjoyed that. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: That was fun, and she was like, really you enjoyed that? Yes, 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: I did. Come on now, I maybe because. 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: Like I love all these girls and I have personal. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Relationships with them some of them. 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: Of course. 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: I just loved seeing them all and I was like, 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: all of them are rock stars. They're so great at 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: what they did and what they do. 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 4: Of course, I love nostalgia just as as you do. 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: I think my issue is I wish I got to 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 4: see more of them talking. I feel like we only 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: got a really small handful that like got some time 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: to talk, and I would love like more of a 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: deep dive, like a real, real like bachelorette talk. 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, you wanted more. I wanted more. There 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: are some girls in the group that didn't get to 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: even talk. I know, it was kind of awkward to 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: see them at the end being like, oh, they didn't 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: get any screen time. 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: Who is that? It was Jen Shift I think that 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: I was like, who in the world is that? 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: Oh my god? 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: How about Andy Dorfmann. 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, you're there, Like, yes, 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: she's a great bachelorette, and like they literally popped her 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: in for like a shot. I feel like at the end, 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: I was like. 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: Wait, Andy, I would have been pissed if I were 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: a couple of the ones that didn't even get any 39 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: speaking lines are just like a nod. 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: They're just like, yeah, that was rough. 41 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: I agree, because it was like a we know, it 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: was a full day of filming. 43 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 44 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: I also liked the way that the girls were like 45 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: not totally dulled up, like not outphitz aside because they 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: all wore them matching outfits, but just like they all 47 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: did their own makeup and it was just like a 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: chill girl hangout And Taylor definitely was on bar with 49 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: that look. She definitely just like did her own makeup 50 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: and like put some foundation on. 51 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: It is super cute. Should we go through it? 52 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go through it because I loved kind of 53 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: in the beginning. First of all, the choice of using 54 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: the song Unwritten. 55 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it was so corny but also good, perfect, 56 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: perfect choice of a song. 57 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: But I will say I really find Taylor so endearing 58 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: with how nervous she is and like showing that side 59 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: of her. And for anybody who also spent this last 60 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: weekend binge watching season four of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: we also got to see her being really nervous in 62 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: other elements. So I think that's such like a cute 63 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: side of her that like most people don't expect from 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: her because she's so confrontational and you know, strong, and 65 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: so to see her be nervous and kind of out 66 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: of her element, I think is really cute and endearing totally. 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: And hey, behind the scenes question, didn't they film this 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: after her season aired? 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: I think so, yes, Yeah, Like, what's your advice? I 70 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: already went through this, I. 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 4: Know, Ashley, I know it filmed this after. 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least we can think it's authentic in the 73 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: way that it's how she handles herself during pres and 74 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: with her relationship if there is one. 75 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: You're really on that train of if there. 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Is one, I know, I really am you are. 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: I love that for you though you have a very 78 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: strong opinion. Okay, So when she gets there, one of 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: the first things that happens is Trista, you know, brings 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: her her matching little outfit and it says like Bachelorette 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: number twenty two, and Trista is like, Taylor's the twenty 82 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: second bachelorette, and then she's like she and Ryan have 83 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: been married for twenty two years. It's just a wild 84 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: wild it's wild. I honestly like, you know, we both 85 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: love Trista, and I think that was actually my favorite 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: part was how much Trista and Ryan throwback footage we 87 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: got in moments. I was like, this is the sweetest. 88 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: I love that this scene in the Hot Tome. You 89 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: rewound it, no, I put lol. 90 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: I was literally laughing, like I said in a rundown, 91 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: because I was like, this is so funny. 92 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: Like, it's so funny. 93 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: It's so funny. Also because I don't know how much 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: time you've spent around Ryan. 95 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: Oh, he's so quiet. 96 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 4: He's so quiet, and he's so inserved to to see 97 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: him like be like, I gotta go take a dip 98 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 4: in that cold water now. I was like, this is 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: so funny. I loved it. And Trista has the funniest 100 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: goofy laugh that she does, like she does like a 101 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: goofy voice when she's like being so. 102 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: I was like, what voice was that? For a second, 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: and then she turned on her regular voice. I was like, 104 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: when she twenty two years ago was bachelort did she 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: have a totally different voice? 106 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: She does that goofy voice still, that is a thing 107 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: for her, like when she's making jokes, it's very funny. 108 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: I loved all that stuff. 109 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: That was my favorite. 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: I think Caitlin talking about her choice to take Nick 111 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 3: to the bedroom or the bathroom before Fantasy Suits was 112 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: good advice. Although yes it was after a season was 113 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: filmed and Taylor was like, so yeah, it's oh wait 114 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: was this film before? Do you need to find a 115 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 3: date to this because it seemed like it was a 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: very genuine question when Taylor was like, so do you sleep. 117 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: With the people? Like do we hook? 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: And then it was like, yeah, didn't seem genuine. 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: I feel like you should we look. 120 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: Back on like when they had the red outfits on. 121 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: No I know because we had Deanna on after and 122 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: she was telling us about it, and I feel like 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: we had her on for a Frankie Friday, and we 124 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: wouldn't have been doing Frankie Yes Friday if they hadn't 125 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: already been filming. 126 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: And she was so nervous to meet the girls, but 127 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: I guess it's just because she's meeting a whole bunch 128 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: of alum that she's never met before. And like, obviously 129 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: if you walk in as a new person in a group. 130 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: Also like being center of attention and like, yeah, thing, 131 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: but like, I'm pretty sure you are correct that this 132 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: was filmed after the season was filmed. 133 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: I didn't need to be filmed before or after or whatever. 134 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: This is really just a celebration of bachelorette and how 135 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: we have a great new one. 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: It's it's it doesn't matter. It was more of like 137 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: a showing of support. 138 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, who's your favorite bachelorette of all time? 139 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, Caitlin is probably like the one that I say, 140 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: but I have multiples, so like but like you know, 141 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: and like I'm too friendly with them to like really 142 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: pick and choose. But if I had to pick three, 143 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: I'd probably say Caitlin for so many reasons. I mean, 144 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: Jared and Ben came from her season, and she and 145 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: I were friends going into it, so it was a 146 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: whole different viewing experience for me and so many friends 147 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: from her season, and then the Kaitlyn is you know, 148 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, the obvious reasons for Kaitlin, and then 149 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: just before being on the show, it was Emily Maynard. 150 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: Just loved Emily's season so so much. I loved Emily. 151 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: She's probably one of the reasons that I got into 152 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: the franchise because I started watching at Brad mel Mack 153 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: season and I just loved following her and Michelle Money. 154 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: They were fun. And then for after my time and 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: like after my connections, it would have been Hannah Brown, 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: because I mean Hannah, I was just a fangirl over 157 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: and still continue to be she. I love Colton season. 158 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: I related to her so much. I thought she was 159 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: gonna be the greatest bachelorette choice that like never would be, 160 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: and then they ended up picking her even though she 161 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: got eliminated like seventh, and she delivered so well in 162 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: her season, and like the confidence and the badassery and 163 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: the fact that she also is just tackled dancing with 164 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: the stars and special forces with just amazement and yeah, 165 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: so those are kind of my three. 166 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: What about you? 167 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: I mean, hands down, I've said it for so many years. 168 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: Caitlin is my favorite bachelorette of all time. I was 169 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: like dialed into her podcast back when it started, Like 170 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 4: I just love her. I think she's hilarious, I think 171 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: she's unapologetic, and I love how goofy she is. Like 172 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: there's just so much I love about her. I would say, 173 00:08:53,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: I also love Hannah Brown, and I also would say, 174 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: who else? Do I really really like? I'm trying to 175 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: like run through the women in my head. 176 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: That was the thing about watching this series was that 177 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: you realize there's just no weak link of any of them. 178 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: They have chosen bachelorette so well over in the past 179 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: two decades. It's incredible. If we saw all the bachelors together, 180 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: we would not think this. It was nice to see Rachel. 181 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: I was just about to say I was so dialed 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: in on Rachel's season that would probably be it. She'd 183 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: be in my top three because I also watched it 184 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: was funny because I remember watching Ali Fedotowski season and 185 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: being really into that one, and I. 186 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: Did watch Alley's. 187 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: I don't consider that to be my first for some 188 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: reason because I watched it, so it was like a 189 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: secluded watch, like I thought I was just watching a 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: season and I didn't have any need to invest in. 191 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: The franchise for some reason. 192 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: And then I ended up watching Brad season next, So 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: it's weird. But I also I love Allie. Watching Alli's 195 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: was the pivotal part of my life too. 196 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, that was a good one at 197 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: Becca Kufrin. I actually I remember I was so dialed 198 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: into Becca's season. She wore this dress when she was 199 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: announced as the bachelorette, and it was right around my 200 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: thirtieth birthday, and I was like, I like that dress 201 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: so much. I'm going to find something that looks exactly 202 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: like that to wear on my thirtieth birthday. And I did. 203 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: I found it. Dressing looked so similar, but it wasn't 204 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: the right length, so I actually went and took it 205 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: to a tailor had it tailored to look like Becca's dress. 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: No way, this is awesome. 207 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: Yes, I was so into her season too. I have 208 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: thoughts about that whole breakup with Ari, but I wan't 209 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: bore you with those today. 210 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: Oh I would like to be bored by them. 211 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: I think that it was a very produced fake breakup. 212 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: That is the hill I will die when it comes 213 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: to her and Ari's the long member. It was like 214 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 4: the uncut like footage and it was like a repensively 215 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 4: looking at the ring out on a balcony. 216 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay in that sense, yeah, it's produced. 217 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: It just felt so fakey, fake, fake fake. 218 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: Did you not think that she was just getting the news? 219 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: There no way you think she acted that. 220 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: I think that that was like not legit, and I 221 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: think that like him and Lauren were like, right, it's Lauren. Yeah. Yeah. 222 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: I thought him and Lauren were like the real thing, 223 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: and I just thought that like it just I just 224 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: feel like there was a series of seasons where the 225 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: ending had they were trying to top top top job. 226 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: You think he was all orchestrated and that Lauren may 227 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: have been in on the whole thing. 228 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: I don't think Lauren was in on it. I think 229 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: that was genuine confusion when she got dumped because I 230 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: think he really did tell her or the one, and 231 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: I think that that was always the plan, and I 232 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: think that there was like this big switcheroo that is 233 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 4: that is what I think in just watching it I 234 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: have never thought that that breakup was real. 235 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: Super duper interesting. What else was there to speak of 236 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: about this? 237 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: But not here for the right reasons. Montage of the 238 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: women just kind of like given it to the guys 239 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: like Emily Maynard, given it to Aliwski just following that guy. 240 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was a memory that was awesome. 241 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: And there's also you know who we didn't see at 242 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: all and it was weird. Was Ashley Ubert. 243 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: There? 244 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: We never really saw anything from her, how. 245 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: About hardly any Tasha. 246 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought an idea about Tasha's was this, And 247 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: I really really did love Tasha's season and Claire. 248 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: We didn't have Claire there. It's interesting. I could see 249 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: how Claire wouldn't want to go there with Tasha's. 250 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: With Taysha, I think that they were like, we give 251 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: Tasha a lot of airtime. It's okay, she's not in 252 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: this because she has the HGTV show she was a host. 253 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: I think it was okay. 254 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: Did you notice how they kind of were doing some 255 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: of the grouping of the women when they were talking 256 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: to her. 257 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: Like as in Caitlin and Taysha weren't to be the 258 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: same group together. 259 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: Not that no, like there was the scene in the 260 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: kitchen where it was Joan trista desiree and I want 261 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: to say, maybe jojo all in that. 262 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: So people who are still with their guys long term. 263 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah, they did that on purpose for one scene, 264 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: and then there was like another one where I think 265 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: it was like it was like the badass Chicks, right, 266 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: it was Caitlin, it was Hannah. 267 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: It yes, you're so they were. 268 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: Them together for a certain reason. 269 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: And then then of course they talk like sex with Caitlin, 270 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 5: you know, of course, and they talk about yeah, you're 271 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: happily ever after, like this is me with my child, 272 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: like I'm pregnant right now, this is what happened to you. 273 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, they did that little practice rose ceremony, which 274 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: is when we said I saw the footage of Tristan Ryan. 275 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: I almost texted her last night, but it was too late. 276 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: I wanted to be like, this is so funny. And 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: then they, you know, give her words of encouragement, and 278 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: I really Taylor said throughout this special, at the top 279 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: and at the end that she is looking for a husband, 280 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: like that what she wants. 281 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: So then I hilariously started having another theory. I was like, 282 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: if she does end up with someone, I don't think 283 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: they're going to get engaged. I still think she knows 284 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: that she's not in the place to get engaged. 285 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: You think so. 286 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: I think she thinks that she makes rash decisions and 287 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: she's just like trying to be the opposite of what 288 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: she normally is throughout this in like a good way, 289 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: like in she's not gonna get pregnant immediately type way. 290 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: It's so interesting that you think that she's like like that, 291 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: because like we see her on Secret Lives talking about 292 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: having sex with no condoms. 293 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 294 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: But that's but that to me is a way bigger 295 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: decision to have somebody's baby than to get engaged. 296 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: Like oh, of course. 297 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to say, like I think that 298 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: she's trying to like make very sensible moves here when 299 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: she doesn't normally make sensible moves. 300 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think she's very spur of 301 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: the moment, Like you have to watch season. 302 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to legitimately it's like what I'm going to 303 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: do when I clean up my room later is have 304 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: that on. So I gotta get my work done today 305 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: so I can have time while my nanny's still here 306 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: to watch that as I clean my room. 307 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: I sound like a child. I have to clean my room. 308 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna spoil it for anybody who's still watching 309 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: and catching up, but I'm not gonna lie. I was 310 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: crying watching it, really like I actually got really emotional. 311 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: And it was like during a scene where like Taylor 312 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: was bawling and like Dakota was crying, and I was 313 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: just like, this is really hitting me, like what she's saying, 314 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: and I was like cheering up and I was like, 315 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: I'm so invested. I'm so invested in her. And also 316 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: my toxic trade is that I would say yes to Dakota, 317 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: So I know I have problems with people. 318 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: I have prob It's okay, I understand he's the Scott 319 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Dissick and like, man, and I want courtneyby Scott Disick. 320 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: Seriously, dude, there is something about Dakota that I am 321 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: just like. I think it's it's they keep talking about 322 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: like their souls are connected, like they haven't me, and 323 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, you do, you do have your souls connected? 324 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 4: Like you're going to be in each other's lives for forever, 325 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: and so you want it to work for people like that. 326 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: Yo, that's going to be really difficult if she ever 327 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: gets in a very serious relationship and he's still going 328 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: to always have to be around for the future husband 329 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: if it's not him, Yes, that's not going to be 330 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: easy for the future husband or for Taylor. No. 331 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: And also let's not forget the ex husband, who has 332 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: remained relatively silent through this whole situation. But the ex 333 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: husband too is also in the life as well. 334 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: Yes, this guy, the new guy, if there will be one, 335 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: is going to have to deal with. 336 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: Two baby daddies. Mm hm, a lot lot. 337 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: You're in your you're in your thirties and you're like 338 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: going through like the little kid stage of life, where 339 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: like the family has to all be involved if it's 340 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: a good, if it's a good co parenting situation exactly 341 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: that is, that's gonna be like a hard thirties because 342 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, when the kids go to college and stuff, 343 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: it'll be a different life for whoever the future spouse is. 344 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 4: But Hayler wants more kids. 345 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna have three baby daddies. 346 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: We did get to see a preview of the season, 347 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: which really kind of got me jazz watching this. 348 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is great. 349 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: This was a good teaser at the end for sure, 350 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: seeing the guys coming in in their limos, which personally 351 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: I don't care about any of that. I'm just like, 352 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: let's let's get it going. Like they could all walk 353 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 4: in the front door without doing the whole limo thing 354 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: and I'd be fine with it. 355 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: Oh except for that one thing where she was like, 356 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: I almost kiss you, but I guess we should go 357 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: on a date first. 358 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: That was cute. 359 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remembering it right. Was somebody also in like 360 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: a suit of armor. 361 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: I don't remember that. 362 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: I feel like somebody was like in a sea. 363 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: There was somebody like in a Kendall box. 364 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, yes, a Ken Doll box. I do 365 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 4: remember that. We see Taylor telling one guy, you're not 366 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: gonna make me a fool, so now you're gonna pack 367 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: up and leave, and she says it in front of 368 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: all a bunch of guys like they're on a group 369 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: date or they're hanging out at the pool or something, 370 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 4: and so she is just like, uh uh. 371 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: We love that, and we love the rose stealing. Yeah. 372 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: The most shocking one that I think was in that 373 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: teaser was one of the contestants saying to another he 374 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 4: slept with one of her friends and came here. Oh wow, 375 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: Now people might jump and think, oh, is that Dakota. Now, 376 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 4: as far as we know, Dakota hasn't slept with one 377 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: of her friends. 378 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: No, it's not Dakota. We already he didn't. 379 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: And we know that he said he said that he's 380 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 4: not coming this season. Yeah, so it has to be 381 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: another contestant. 382 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: Who slept with one of her friends left with. 383 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: One of her friends. 384 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 385 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: Now, we talked about this though, about Utah just being 386 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: so small that any of these Utah guys there's gonna 387 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: be some sort of connection to her. It's just bound 388 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: to happen. 389 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: And it's a bachelor world. So now, like that doesn't 390 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: sound too crazy for me. Lots of us have, you know, 391 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: had relationships with people who have slept with friends. And 392 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: I think it's so funny when we go to a 393 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: wedding and I'm like, holy, you're married now, but like 394 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: and you're chatting with that person, but like, you guys 395 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: slept together at some point, and it's like, oh that, 396 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: it's so normal. 397 00:20:49,480 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 4: The bachelor world seems so incestuous. Going back to your theory, 398 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: if Taylor doesn't end up with anybody, who in Bachelor 399 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 4: Nation do you think she could possibly canoodle with? Oh? 400 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't. 401 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: I think that, Like Bachelor Nation is getting pretty married up. 402 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: I can't think of anyone that's just like super duper 403 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: catch of her age. 404 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: Not even super duper catch. I'm just talking about wrong, 405 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: you know, like having fun with who? Could you see 406 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: her like canoodling with, like ad Justin Blaze, Like. 407 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: Uh no, I was gonna say, what's Blake Mooins? 408 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: Yes, that's it, Blake Mooins. We wanted him to come 409 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: on this season because that makes sense. 410 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: He has a Dakota look, Yeah, he does. I to 411 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 4: break out of the Dakota look. I'm going to try 412 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: something new. 413 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: I don't know I have a type, and I can't. 414 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: I've never been able to realist about. 415 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: Your type is Tom Cruise. 416 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I like like deep set, wide set 417 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: eyes and like a good jawline, fuller lips, Yeah. 418 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: Dark hair. I liked classically handsome men. 419 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't blame you. 420 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: Okay, what's your type? Your type visit Dakota, isn't it? 421 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: My type is Tom Selleck? 422 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: Oh my god, great choice. 423 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: But classically handsome man, so like I went through a 424 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: Tom Selleck phase a couple of years ago. 425 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: Where I was like, I'm gonna watch I'm gonna like 426 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: watch PI like magnum p I. I'm just kind of like. 427 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've been in love with him since 428 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: I was a little kid watching. 429 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: Three three Men, like are you kidding me? 430 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: After I saw three men and a baby the second 431 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: one two men and a little three men and a 432 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: little lady, and I watched it during COVID, like, and 433 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: I had gone like two decades without ever seeing it, 434 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: and I was like, holy shit, I am an adult 435 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: woman now who understands Tom Selleck's appeal. 436 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have to show you a picture of my 437 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: ex boyfriend sometime and you'll see either I get it. 438 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah. I was always like, why does 439 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: Monica want to be with him? On Friends? And then 440 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: one day I became a woman. I get it. 441 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: I get it Monica. 442 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, well I guess that's kind of it, except 443 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: for oh, there's the we see again Taylor saying I 444 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 3: want the roses back. 445 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: When she takes them out of the men's hands, She's like, 446 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: give back, give it back. I loved that. We've never 447 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: seen that before. 448 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 4: I loved it. And she what did Jesse say? The 449 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 4: rose is am like a strong symbol or something? She goes, 450 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't care. 451 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so good. 452 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: I can't believe it. We're one week out like this. 453 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: Doesn't it feel like we've been talking about this for forever. 454 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: I'm just like, Wow, this is like the super Bowl. 455 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 4: It's like it's coming, It's here. 456 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, it's very I'm excited for you too. Alrighty guys, well, 457 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. Hope that you 458 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: enjoyed this little walk down memory Lane that ABC put 459 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: together for us and hype of Taylor's premiere. We love 460 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: you and we'll see you next week, and we have 461 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: some very exciting things to shout about. 462 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: Hi. 463 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: Hi, Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts 464 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts