Speaker 1: Hi, Brian, Katie. You know a lot of people are
Speaker 1: called a force of nature, but when it comes to
Speaker 1: our guest today, I think that really fits Tony Robbins.
Speaker 1: I mean talk about sucking all the oxygen out of
Speaker 1: the room in a good way. He is bigger than
Speaker 1: life in every sense. He's like six seven, he's maybe
Speaker 1: two fifty pounds of pure bodybuilding. He makes me feel
Speaker 1: like less of a man than anyone with whom I've
Speaker 1: ever spoken, But he's extraordinary and for somebody who grew
Speaker 1: up watching him do infomercials, it's interesting to see how
Speaker 1: his career is evolved to being kind of an elite
Speaker 1: coach to CEOs, even presidency the United States. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a best selling author, he's an entrepreneur, he's a philanthropist,
Speaker 1: and given his childhood, it's fascinating how that really motivated
Speaker 1: him to achieve everything he's done, which makes us feel
Speaker 1: like pikers pretty much, right, Brian, Yeah, I'm a real
Speaker 1: under a che in comparison, But as you'll hear in
Speaker 1: the interview, he grew up under some pretty tough circumstances
Speaker 1: and overcame quite a lot. Never went to college, self taught,
Speaker 1: became a guru to everybody, from Bill Clinton to Mark
Speaker 1: Bennioff to mother Teresa. I can't believe everything. He's a
Speaker 1: chief Ryan at fifty seven, and there's still so much
Speaker 1: more he wants to do. And I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that he will do it. And
Speaker 1: in addition to being a self help titan, he's involved
Speaker 1: in thirty one businesses. He generates annual sales, he says,
Speaker 1: in excess of five billion dollars. He's built an empire.
Speaker 1: So here's Tony Robbins. And by the way, he's a
Speaker 1: very enthusiastic guest. So that sound you here is Tony's hands,
Speaker 1: his big hands hitting the table here, no subjects there
Speaker 1: hitting the table for emphasis. So you're not crazy if
Speaker 1: you hear that. Thank you for stopping by our little studio.
Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. And Brian is here with me, and
Speaker 1: we were talking about your extraordinary career. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, how how do you describe yourself because I
Speaker 1: know how your press materials do. I'm a you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a peak performance coach. I'm a consultant for people,
Speaker 1: but you know I'm also an entrepreneur and philanthropist. You know,
Speaker 1: big part of my life today is besides helping people
Speaker 1: and events and things of that nature, I have thirty
Speaker 1: one companies, so they're in very different industries. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm everything from I have a unique opportunity to do
Speaker 1: some some of the best stem cell work in the world.
Speaker 1: While simultaneously we've got virtual reality, the exclusive with the NBA,
Speaker 1: so you know, you see Monday Night Football, We're having
Speaker 1: Tuesday Night NBA. We have the exclusive with Live Nation,
Speaker 1: so we have I have about twelve Dred employees across
Speaker 1: four continents. We do five billion in sales each year.
Speaker 1: And then I have my jay job, which is about
Speaker 1: of my time because I love it so much, which
Speaker 1: is helping people improve their lives. And then philanthropy wise,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeding a hundred million people a year now.
Speaker 1: I've done that for two years in a row. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna feed a billion people over the next eight years.
Speaker 1: And it's not because I'm such a good guy. It's
Speaker 1: just when I was eleven years old, we had no
Speaker 1: money and no food on Thanksgiving and a man came
Speaker 1: to the door and delivered food and my father did
Speaker 1: not respond well to it. But I did. My dad
Speaker 1: always said, strangers don't care. And I think the biggest
Speaker 1: impact for me was not just that there was food,
Speaker 1: but the fact that I had evidence of strangers cared
Speaker 1: about my family and made me. It shifted me to
Speaker 1: really care about strangers. So I promised myself I'd feed people,
Speaker 1: and I got to seventeen. I've had two families in
Speaker 1: the next year, four and eventually got to a million,
Speaker 1: two million, And I've fed four million people a year
Speaker 1: for about eight years, and then two million myself and
Speaker 1: two millions to my foundation because I thought I fed
Speaker 1: forty two million in a lifetime. What if I had
Speaker 1: fifty million this year? And then I got excited, made
Speaker 1: it a hundred million, and I got Feeding America to
Speaker 1: be my partner, and they deliver. I mean, their efficiency
Speaker 1: is amazing. So we've partnered, so we're gonna feed a
Speaker 1: billion people, and then the numbers were getting should provide
Speaker 1: an ongoing hundred million new meals per year ongoing from
Speaker 1: there on. Can I just say I give up? I
Speaker 1: feel so lazy and useless after just hearing that, I think, wow,
Speaker 1: this is really impressive. Now, you talked about growing up
Speaker 1: in a tough environment and you did. Your dad left,
Speaker 1: as I understand, when you were very had four fathers, Yes,
Speaker 1: they all left. Your mom was quite abusive. In fact,
Speaker 1: you left home when you were seventeen when your mom
Speaker 1: came after you with a knife. Can you describe how
Speaker 1: that upbringing kind of shaped the man you've become since then?
Speaker 1: I never talked about my mom when she's alive. I didn't,
Speaker 1: you know. I still love her to this day. She
Speaker 1: she had been the mother that I wanted her to be,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the man I'm proud to be because
Speaker 1: the fact that I suffered so much, I mean she would.
Speaker 1: She was addicted to you know, prescription drugs and alcohol,
Speaker 1: and the mixed is not a good mix. And she
Speaker 1: got very violent. And I have a younger brother and
Speaker 1: younger sister five and seven years younger. So for me,
Speaker 1: I had to become a practical psychologist just to figure
Speaker 1: out to keep her in control, not hurt them much
Speaker 1: less hurt me. And so I really really grew as
Speaker 1: a result of that. I mean, I have suffered so
Speaker 1: much that I don't want to see any human suffer.
Speaker 1: And I became obsessed with finding answers to how to
Speaker 1: help people and their suffering, how to have them have
Speaker 1: the beauty that they want for their life. And it
Speaker 1: just turned into a forty year enterprise. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and I've had the privilege of living in a time
Speaker 1: where you know, I go to twelve thirteen countries a year,
Speaker 1: I see a quarter of a million people live. I mean,
Speaker 1: you couldn't have done that, you know, fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: you know, Tony, you know, I think that kind of
Speaker 1: childhood experience would have destroyed so many people. What was
Speaker 1: it about you and about sort of your psyche, your constitution,
Speaker 1: your outlook on life that you were able to turn
Speaker 1: it into something so positive. I'm sure you've examined that.
Speaker 1: I have. I think that what saved me was reading
Speaker 1: my I early in my life I got exposed to
Speaker 1: personal improvement and personal development, and I took a speed
Speaker 1: reading class, and I promised myself I'd read a book
Speaker 1: of dad and do that. But I read seven hundred
Speaker 1: books in seven years, and they were all psychology, physiology,
Speaker 1: anything that could improve the quality of life. And so
Speaker 1: because I was feeding my mind so much, I think
Speaker 1: that really gave it. The other part was I just
Speaker 1: love people, and so you know, I love my brother
Speaker 1: and sister. To start with, I just want to help them.
Speaker 1: But by the time I was in high school, I
Speaker 1: would I had so many answers. I was Mr. Solution
Speaker 1: you had a problem, especially if you're a girl. I
Speaker 1: was highly to help you get over that stupid boy
Speaker 1: in your life you were. I have such strong memories
Speaker 1: as a kid watching your infomercials on TV. That's how
Speaker 1: I first got introduced to you. That's Brian's way of
Speaker 1: reminding us how young he is. I'm not so young.
Speaker 1: I'm practically middle aged now, but practically. But the point is,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people who may have gotten
Speaker 1: introduced to you that way don't know that you've become
Speaker 1: this advisor to CEOs like Mark Bennie Off and Paul
Speaker 1: Tutor Jones, that you've advised Richard Branson, Steve wins, Serena Williams,
Speaker 1: pat Riley On and on. How is your career kind
Speaker 1: of gone from you know, TV self improvement guru to
Speaker 1: advisor to the CEO stars. Well, I was always even
Speaker 1: early my life. Quite frankly, I was a young kid,
Speaker 1: but I had unique insights because I had loaded my brain.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd gone for so many answers that I
Speaker 1: had them. I didn't have all the life experience yet,
Speaker 1: but I had this incredible passion to help people, and
Speaker 1: so it allowed me at early age, I was turning around.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was gosh Hose, I was twenty
Speaker 1: let's say the eighteen nineteen nineteen, twenty years old. I
Speaker 1: was turning around Olympic athletes. Twenty four. I turned around
Speaker 1: Andrea Agassi when he'd been number one and dropped to
Speaker 1: twenty nine, and got him back to number one, and
Speaker 1: he gave me enormous credit. Maybe too much, maybe not,
Speaker 1: but I helped him turn around either, I'm grateful. And
Speaker 1: then you know when I got to the President Clinton
Speaker 1: at that stage, and mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela at
Speaker 1: the game James Dropper, No, I have a name dropping
Speaker 1: because they were just such incredible human beings that I
Speaker 1: got the privilege to coach. I was pinching myself. But
Speaker 1: I also wasn't stupid enough to only coach them. I
Speaker 1: was learning from them. So for forty years I've not
Speaker 1: just been coaching others thinking I got all the answers.
Speaker 1: I've been sucking the juice out of the brains of
Speaker 1: the smartest people I can find and most heartfelt people
Speaker 1: I could find doing the same thing I did with
Speaker 1: the financial And I said, if I want to, really,
Speaker 1: I've taught this for years, but I was so angry
Speaker 1: what happened in two thousand eight and that no one
Speaker 1: paid a price for it that by I said, I
Speaker 1: got to use my skill. I've got. I have this
Speaker 1: unique gift I've coached Paul Tutor Jones for at that point,
Speaker 1: I think twenty years and twenty four years and now
Speaker 1: one of the leading investment managers went to uv A
Speaker 1: with me, and I asked him after many years after
Speaker 1: we graduated, Hey, Paul, where were you when I was
Speaker 1: at u v A thinking, you know, that would have
Speaker 1: been a nice person to hook up with it you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And he said said to me,
Speaker 1: I was probably drunk, And I said, no, wonder we
Speaker 1: didn't meet. But anyway, continue well, Paul, as you know,
Speaker 1: as a gift to this country and a gift to
Speaker 1: the city for sure, with Robin Hood and all that
Speaker 1: he's done, and I've learned so much from him. But
Speaker 1: but that's really what I've tried to do along the way,
Speaker 1: as I've tried to learn by other people's experiences, because
Speaker 1: you know, in business, other people's money is leverage. I
Speaker 1: think what's much more valuable in other people's money is
Speaker 1: other people's experience. When that other person's experiences dynamic and extraordinary,
Speaker 1: you know, it's wild. So really, in helping them, they're
Speaker 1: helping you. They all tell about Tony changed my life,
Speaker 1: saved my life. You know, you bring Mark Banning off
Speaker 1: some one of my dearest friends. And I can remember
Speaker 1: Mark coming up to me after attending three seminars are
Speaker 1: always hard to miss. He's standing in the front row.
Speaker 1: He's as big as I am. Right, he comes up
Speaker 1: and shakes my hand. He goes, this is my third seminar.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I know, he says. He goes, you
Speaker 1: just convinced me. You finally pushed me off the edge.
Speaker 1: And he says, I'm I'm leaving my job and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start this new company called Salesforce dot com and
Speaker 1: we're gonna change the business world, and you're gonna remember,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna come on the journey with me. And
Speaker 1: he goes, I'll everyday he looked at me. He goes,
Speaker 1: Mark my words, we're gonna do a hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: in business. Of course they're gonna do ten billion this year, right,
Speaker 1: So it's just a fun journey to see those things.
Speaker 1: But he says, if this is my favorite quote because
Speaker 1: it certainly serves me, goes around and tells everybody Salesforce
Speaker 1: wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Tony Robbins. That's bullshit.
Speaker 1: But I really like that he says it. But I
Speaker 1: think what people may have trouble understanding is, you know,
Speaker 1: you're sitting down with President Bill Clinton during the height
Speaker 1: of the depths of the Lewinsky scandal, and he's looking
Speaker 1: to you for advice. What can you tell him that
Speaker 1: he doesn't already know the truth? Um, I was with
Speaker 1: Peter Goober. I don't know if you know Peter owns
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the Golden State Warriors and no, but
Speaker 1: his partner dated used the two. We don't want to
Speaker 1: spread that rumor you can get in trouble his wife.
Speaker 1: But I was at Peter's house that was you spend
Speaker 1: every Christmas with him and AskMen. And he calls me
Speaker 1: and says, presidents on the line. So what So I
Speaker 1: got a line. The President said, you know, I've had
Speaker 1: ten people tell me that right now, I'm going through
Speaker 1: a tough time. You're the right guy. Would you come
Speaker 1: to Camp David and spend the weekend and talk with me?
Speaker 1: And I said, I can't come for the weekend and
Speaker 1: come for the day because this holiday I gotta be
Speaker 1: with my family. But I said, I just want you
Speaker 1: to know I'm not a fan. And Peter, I'll never
Speaker 1: get Peter's face. I said, I'm completely respectful. It would
Speaker 1: be a privilege to serve you. But if you're looking
Speaker 1: for someone who's going to tell you what you want
Speaker 1: to hear, I'm the wrong guy. And there's a long pause,
Speaker 1: and then President Clinton said, I like that. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for something. I'm not looking to be told what I believe.
Speaker 1: I said, great, then I'm happy to come. I don't
Speaker 1: the phone in Peterson. You just told the President Nited
Speaker 1: states you're not as fan. I have to invite to come.
Speaker 1: What the how's the matter with you? You know? So
Speaker 1: I went met with the President and developed a real
Speaker 1: great friendship. But I can remember after the Blue Dress
Speaker 1: we were an AskMen together and going down the Red
Speaker 1: Mountain if you know that area, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: snowy and there it's surreal. You know, the President's motorcade
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, going down this icy
Speaker 1: mountaintop and he said to me, goes, he said, you know, god,
Speaker 1: I'd run again if I could. And I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: if I were you, I'd get the hell out of
Speaker 1: dodge us teasing him, and he goes, no time, what
Speaker 1: am I gonna do with the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: I'm fifty or fifty one whatever he was at the time,
Speaker 1: And uh, it's kind of crazy now because I just
Speaker 1: saw him last weekend and just to see what he's
Speaker 1: done with his life. I know he's obviously massively disappointed
Speaker 1: what happened in the election, but to see what he's
Speaker 1: done out of office is truly inspiring. It's inspiring that
Speaker 1: you can't imagine. But to address what you said, I
Speaker 1: was thirty one and I'm advising the president nited states.
Speaker 1: It's kind of trippy. I'm you know, a deer went
Speaker 1: running by. It's in the middle of the snow, and
Speaker 1: the President's telling me how bad the media is. It's
Speaker 1: so funny you tell me at that time and they
Speaker 1: don't listen. And you know, he's the first president that
Speaker 1: doesn't have an external enemy, so now everybody's turning internally,
Speaker 1: was his view. I remember thinking, this guy's president United
Speaker 1: States and he's whining, and it's like, I guess we
Speaker 1: all whine at times. And I got to figure out
Speaker 1: what to do to help this man and long term relationship, well,
Speaker 1: I don't talk about what I do with people unless
Speaker 1: they talk about it publicly. Something I can tell you
Speaker 1: is one day, one of the more interesting calls I got,
Speaker 1: can call me. One day I was at my office,
Speaker 1: people paid me and I get him the phone and
Speaker 1: he says, they're gonna impeach me in the morning. What
Speaker 1: should I do? And I'm like, first, could you have
Speaker 1: called me sooner? Yes, tomorrow morning, right? And I said,
Speaker 1: that's the wrong question. And the question you gotta ask
Speaker 1: is what do you really want? Because what to do
Speaker 1: is based on the outcome you're after. If you want
Speaker 1: to stay in office, do nothing because the Senate's not
Speaker 1: gonna impeach you. Easy for me to say, I'm not
Speaker 1: the president under pressure, but you know as well as
Speaker 1: I do, they're not gonna teach you. I said, so
Speaker 1: you can do nothing. If you want to be respected
Speaker 1: then by American people, by children, by parents. Then I said,
Speaker 1: I know you're not gonna put yourself You're a lawyer,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna put yourself in jail. But you've got
Speaker 1: to communicate with more clarity about what's really going on
Speaker 1: and take responsibility for the things that were a mess up.
Speaker 1: And I had this moment where he said, you're so right,
Speaker 1: You're so right. So I'm so glad I called you said,
Speaker 1: I'll call you back. I'm gonna call you back in
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, and I thought, holy shit, I'd influenced
Speaker 1: the president move in the right direction, right what I
Speaker 1: could through the right direction. And then his secretary called
Speaker 1: me about thirty minutes later. He's still with the group,
Speaker 1: but he wants to know he's focused on it. In
Speaker 1: about three hours called at the time at four hours later,
Speaker 1: he was stadding, with all the Democrats, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, this is all bullshit and we're
Speaker 1: gonna fight this thing. But so I've had some wild rides.
Speaker 1: I've had a chance to sit down with Mr Gorbachoff,
Speaker 1: you know, right after you know, he was taken out
Speaker 1: of office, and spend time and bring him. I've I've
Speaker 1: had a ticket to history and it's been an incredible
Speaker 1: privilege and I've learned so much, and I try to
Speaker 1: take that and make it practical for the average person
Speaker 1: so they can prove their life or you know, the
Speaker 1: leader that calls when it's time to interm intervene. Just
Speaker 1: on the on the President Clinton front. You got to
Speaker 1: know Hillary Clinton well as well? Have you have my
Speaker 1: Trump as well? Yeah, well we'll get to that in
Speaker 1: a moment. But one of the things I thought about
Speaker 1: was Monica Lewinsky. I saw her not long ago in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and I always felt that she had I mean,
Speaker 1: I was going to say she got the short end
Speaker 1: of the stick, and then I just realized that I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that I was. I was searching. I was searching
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin and Donald Trump apression so unfairly and I
Speaker 1: you know, and and so villainized, and she was. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a daughter who's twenty one years old, Tony,
Speaker 1: and I think about she, Well, you know, she's a kid,
Speaker 1: she's a college girl, and I felt like she was
Speaker 1: she made a mistake but also taking advantage of in
Speaker 1: a very serious way. Did you ever think about her
Speaker 1: or reaching out to her? Actually, um, I've reached out
Speaker 1: all the time on something there, like I reached out
Speaker 1: to Tiger Woods. Actually, probably a dozen people reached out
Speaker 1: for for me to Dagger Woods, but he got in
Speaker 1: motors like I don't want to help, and he didn't
Speaker 1: do it. So Um, as far as her, I didn't
Speaker 1: reach out her directly, but I always let people know
Speaker 1: that I'm available, and I work with people on both
Speaker 1: sides of the aisle. I'm an independent personally. I worked
Speaker 1: with whoever I think is a great leader. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know she's the kind of person if you know
Speaker 1: her and want to invite her. I'm doing an event.
Speaker 1: I think she's based in l A now is and
Speaker 1: she years if she wants to come. I'm doing one
Speaker 1: for ten thousand people in two weeks and she could
Speaker 1: come as our guests and would blow her mind. I
Speaker 1: can promise you that. So if she wants, if you
Speaker 1: want invite her as my guests, will do it. But
Speaker 1: it's interesting, europe psychology expert, you're clearly really great at
Speaker 1: leadership coaching, but you never went to college. There's no
Speaker 1: formal training for this. You said you've learned from the
Speaker 1: people with whom you've had these discussions. But what do
Speaker 1: you think you offer? What is the value add when
Speaker 1: somebody's sitting across the table from you besides telling them
Speaker 1: the truth? Well, I'm I've spent forty years now at
Speaker 1: this stage where I've gotten the call and I got
Speaker 1: to produce the result. Now, Serena Williams is melting down
Speaker 1: on that sal television. What do I do? I should
Speaker 1: gone through all these problems turn around right now? Um,
Speaker 1: you know kids suicidal, knock on wood. I've never lost
Speaker 1: one suicide in forty years out of thousands. So my
Speaker 1: whole approach has been how do I just really deliver
Speaker 1: results for people? And what every area it is, whether
Speaker 1: it be sports or would be business. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've been obsessed with finding principles that are the best
Speaker 1: principles from find like somebody's been together twenty five years
Speaker 1: and they're still passionate for each other, not just hanging out.
Speaker 1: They're not lucky. They do things differently than other people.
Speaker 1: If you're fit and you've stayed fit for thirty years,
Speaker 1: you're not lucky. You're doing something different. If you're financially
Speaker 1: set and you've started with nothing and you've built it
Speaker 1: that you're not lucky. You did something different. So I
Speaker 1: codify what that difference is. But then I put it
Speaker 1: into a delivery system that's so enjoyable that you love
Speaker 1: while you're learning, and so as a result, you tend
Speaker 1: to really apply it because there's more emotion to it.
Speaker 1: You know, information without emotions not retained. If I said,
Speaker 1: do you remember where you were on nine eleven, everybody
Speaker 1: in this country, in fact, most countries know where they
Speaker 1: were when they heard it. They can describe where they were,
Speaker 1: who was around them they saw. But I ask you
Speaker 1: where you are on eight eleven, you have no clue
Speaker 1: because information without emotion is not retained. What I do
Speaker 1: is I put people in states, psychological emotional states where
Speaker 1: what they learned they feel it, they embed it, they
Speaker 1: experience it, and they live it. And because they live it,
Speaker 1: they get results. And then that's grown my brand and
Speaker 1: reputation for fourty years. You're also almost telepathic, you know,
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary, and when you have a huge
Speaker 1: crowd of people, you can almost you do and feel them.
Speaker 1: You can zero in on the person who really seems
Speaker 1: to need your help. It's almost like the Long Island
Speaker 1: medium with shorter nails. How you do that? How do
Speaker 1: you do that? Well, I'm extremely empathetic and and if
Speaker 1: you know anything about the human brain, we have these
Speaker 1: things called mirror neurons, whereas if you're sitting there and
Speaker 1: you watch somebody going rowing by, and you keep watching them,
Speaker 1: your brain will actually start to do their rowing and
Speaker 1: your nervous system right. And the more empathetic you are,
Speaker 1: the more your mirror neurons tend to turn on. So
Speaker 1: mine are highly developed for forty years to enter someone's world,
Speaker 1: rapidly feel who they are. And then I have so
Speaker 1: many you know, there's only so many patterns, right, There's
Speaker 1: there's only so many ways. We're the only creatures on
Speaker 1: earth that can make ourselves angry with one thought, happy
Speaker 1: with another, piste off another, excited with another. And so
Speaker 1: I've studied the system of how the brain works, and
Speaker 1: so there are not unlimited differences, and so I know
Speaker 1: what to do. There's only so many patterns. But I
Speaker 1: do it different every time because it's more enjoyable. It's
Speaker 1: like a piece of art when somebody stands up, it's done.
Speaker 1: I know it's done. Now, let's just see how it
Speaker 1: shows up and be different every time. Now, not to
Speaker 1: be a bitchy skeptic, but you know, I would say
Speaker 1: that most of the people who come to your seminars,
Speaker 1: Tony are searching for something, are needing something, or unhappy
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. Right, And and the
Speaker 1: one I was describing the documentary was your six day
Speaker 1: date with Destiny seminar you've had, you know, you do
Speaker 1: dozens of them. I mean how many of you done,
Speaker 1: like eighty of them or seventy nine of them or something,
Speaker 1: you know, through the course of your career. So isn't
Speaker 1: it safe to say that anybody in that audience is heard? Well, no,
Speaker 1: not necessarily. You'll be surprised. People come from two extremes.
Speaker 1: They come because they're the best in the world. And
Speaker 1: what they do. I mean, Pitball is not hurting, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, I'm constantly interacting in supporting what
Speaker 1: he's doing. Right, Uh, Hugh Jackman is not hurting. Serena
Speaker 1: is not hurting. So it's finding what people need and
Speaker 1: what people who come to see me are hungry. So
Speaker 1: you're right. Some are hungry because of pain. They had
Speaker 1: a birthday with a zero, they went through a divorce,
Speaker 1: their kids have grown up um, you know they have
Speaker 1: been at the same business for twenty years. They made
Speaker 1: million dollars in their board. Out of their mind. They
Speaker 1: want something more. Right, someone wants something more, they're gonna
Speaker 1: come see me. But then there's the whole class of people,
Speaker 1: which is a huge chunk, which are the best in
Speaker 1: the world that are looking for they know one little distinction.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going this direction and make a ten
Speaker 1: degree shift, and you take that on a month and
Speaker 1: now six months, and now you have a different destination,
Speaker 1: different destiny. So I get people that are hungry. If
Speaker 1: you're in the lukewarm middle where you're not happy but
Speaker 1: you're not unhappy enough doing about it, you're never gonna
Speaker 1: come see me. But if you're the best in the world,
Speaker 1: you'll talk to the other best and I'll say Tony
Speaker 1: did this for me, and you'll call me. Or if
Speaker 1: you're the best or not the best, but you're really challenged,
Speaker 1: you're going to look for answers. And I'm going to
Speaker 1: be one of those people eventually, just because I've been
Speaker 1: in the culture doing this for forty years. So if
Speaker 1: Brian wanted to come, you are very expensive. If Brian
Speaker 1: wanted to come and have a one on one session, Brian,
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk to you about me beginning together
Speaker 1: with Actually I think I could get together with Tony,
Speaker 1: but he's too expensive and I'm too cheap. We should
Speaker 1: talk about this because so you charged a million dollars
Speaker 1: and they had a percentage of whatever side in their business. Yeah, geez, Louise,
Speaker 1: no wonder you're feeding so many hungry people. You're gonna
Speaker 1: only coach so many people one on one to give
Speaker 1: you agree. I used to see. I used to do
Speaker 1: my Magnificence seven and then I stopped doing it because
Speaker 1: the demands are just so high and I have to
Speaker 1: you know, I want to over deliver always, and I
Speaker 1: just not enough hours in the day. So now I
Speaker 1: do too, sometimes three at a time max. But Paul
Speaker 1: Tutor has been one of my clients for twenty four years.
Speaker 1: So I four million dollars, maybe maybe it was more,
Speaker 1: but he's but he's also made billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean, several times along the way, I've said, damn, look, Paul,
Speaker 1: we're such dear friends. I said, I don't need this
Speaker 1: for you anymore. I know what you're gonna do when
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. You knew it too, And he
Speaker 1: looks at me and says, are you kidding me? Your
Speaker 1: my insurance policy? Just know when you're going to show up.
Speaker 1: I do all this stuff. I knew I should have
Speaker 1: dated him in college. Well, we're going to take a
Speaker 1: quick break and when we come back, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk to you about leadership and our fearless leader or
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is that the right way to describe
Speaker 1: Donald Trump? These days, we'll hear from Tony Robbins about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Right after this, we're back with Tony Robbins.
Speaker 1: Who has I think you're the male brend of a Carl.
Speaker 1: You've got such a raspy voice, is it? Is it
Speaker 1: always so? Of course a lot of our listeners won't
Speaker 1: remember brend of a Card did a tamp Ex commercial,
Speaker 1: and I'm being compared to a tamp Ex commercial. I
Speaker 1: feel really very raspy voice. I think it's important to
Speaker 1: know the facts about tampons, to use them intelligently, and
Speaker 1: to know what you're doing. Let me tell you why
Speaker 1: I like plate Express. Yes, because I speak fifty hours?
Speaker 1: Is that why it's so raspy? I actually went to
Speaker 1: a expert at Harvard, who's worked with Aarri Smith and
Speaker 1: all these guys. He's probably the best expert in the country.
Speaker 1: I'll never get he has this. He asked me, how
Speaker 1: off when I speak it? I told me. He thought
Speaker 1: I was making it up. He goes, No, one speaks
Speaker 1: for twelve hours. No one will sit there with twelve hours.
Speaker 1: I said, well, now I get ten thousand people at
Speaker 1: the time to do it. So he'd been puts me
Speaker 1: under the scope and he literally says, I got the
Speaker 1: thing down my throat. I can't speak. He's like, no, no.
Speaker 1: He leaves the room with the thing in my throat
Speaker 1: trying to say something. He walks in with three doctors
Speaker 1: five minutes later and they all stare no, no, Well
Speaker 1: that's when you know it's good. Yeah. So if idly
Speaker 1: pull it out, Like what's the no, he goes, you're um.
Speaker 1: You are what he called vocal cords are supposed to
Speaker 1: be the thickness of your lips. Yours are thinner than
Speaker 1: this piece of paper. He said, there's no way you
Speaker 1: should be able to actually speak. It should be impossible
Speaker 1: for you to speak. But he said, you've done something
Speaker 1: that My forty years as a medical doctor expert in
Speaker 1: this area would say as impossible. Science says, impossible. You've
Speaker 1: wired your voice box, your false voice box, to your
Speaker 1: normal voice box, and that's how you speak. He goes,
Speaker 1: it's almost that you couldn't speak, and you like willed
Speaker 1: yourself to speak, and somehow the cells connected and gradually
Speaker 1: created this train that you now can speak. That's how
Speaker 1: I talk to Do you ever not talk? I mean,
Speaker 1: do you ever go for quiet periods? She says? Why
Speaker 1: aren't you talking to me? What's wrong? You're one of
Speaker 1: those everybody else you're not talking to me? You probably
Speaker 1: get sick of it. I'm sure you want to just
Speaker 1: not like, want to let your voice rest. And someone
Speaker 1: dore my wife, she's, I tease, are mercilessly? Mercilessly? No,
Speaker 1: I I'd like to speak when there's something to speak about,
Speaker 1: and when there's something to speak out. I'm not getting
Speaker 1: up there to talk for fifty hours because I want
Speaker 1: to talk for fifty hours. Because what I do is conditioning. Right.
Speaker 1: You hear something, once you understand it, you here a
Speaker 1: couple of times in different ways, you might be able
Speaker 1: to play it. But if I get you were you're
Speaker 1: wired to do it now. You get results. I mean
Speaker 1: you get results by changing conditioning. You don't get results
Speaker 1: by just getting a new insight. This was your second wife,
Speaker 1: your current I was married for fourteen years before that.
Speaker 1: I've been married eighteen years on this one. And and so,
Speaker 1: what did you learn from your first marriage? Your partner.
Speaker 1: No one tells you how to pick a partner. So
Speaker 1: she was a great lady, but we had so little
Speaker 1: in common. It was just chemistry. And then I fell
Speaker 1: in love with her children. She'd been married twice before me.
Speaker 1: I was her third husband, and she was thirteen years
Speaker 1: my senior, twelve years my senior. So I was, if
Speaker 1: you can imagine, twenty four and instantly had a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old son overnight and eleven year old. Oh that's weird,
Speaker 1: like seven years older than your stepson. He was the
Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher of his day. He's fifty and I'm fifty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to give an idea, So I grew up very quickly. Um,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to lose the kid's love. I
Speaker 1: fell so in love with them. She's a good human being,
Speaker 1: but you know, she'd be upset all the time that
Speaker 1: I was stopping to talk to people or help people
Speaker 1: much so. But what the beauty is I end up
Speaker 1: with all my kids and my second youngest is my
Speaker 1: partner in several of my financial businesses, you know. And
Speaker 1: so it's a it's a blast at this stage of
Speaker 1: my life that I got to experience all those stages simultaneously.
Speaker 1: They made me grow up and they think increased my
Speaker 1: ability to help other people too. Well, let's let's enough
Speaker 1: about your marriage. Let's talk about Donald Trump. Can speaking
Speaker 1: of things that weren't supposed to be possible, like her
Speaker 1: vocal cords Trump. So, so, how well do you know
Speaker 1: Donald Trump? Pretty well enough that he's called me at
Speaker 1: various times. I gave him his first six speech, I know,
Speaker 1: not recently, I gave him his first big speech. I
Speaker 1: think you might call him, well, sure I can, but
Speaker 1: he's and he's just down the road for me. You
Speaker 1: don't visit him if I want to get because I
Speaker 1: live in Balm Beach most of the time. A good
Speaker 1: person of time. But um, you know, he's a very
Speaker 1: unique creature, as you well know. And I think that
Speaker 1: he's been reinforced for what you and I might call
Speaker 1: bad behave at least in communication style. And um and
Speaker 1: he's now President Nited States, and those things are not
Speaker 1: being reinforced. But I think half the country sent him
Speaker 1: there because government is systemic. You take your time, you
Speaker 1: think everything through it as consequences. He's pragmatic. I want
Speaker 1: to do this now, right now, and even if make
Speaker 1: a mistake, then I'll correct the mistake and get it done.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna take two years to do it.
Speaker 1: So I think, is that pragmatic or impulsive? Well, you
Speaker 1: can call it impulsive, but it's also pragmatic to look
Speaker 1: for an answer now. Everyone has a specialty in their brains.
Speaker 1: Some people are extremely empathetic, right. Empathetic people are always
Speaker 1: like if you're in a meeting right now and we
Speaker 1: say we're gonna do something, they're gonna, hey, wait a second,
Speaker 1: that will make these people feel this way, and they're
Speaker 1: always worried about that. Person is more pragmatic is like,
Speaker 1: they're gonna feel that way, but if we don't do this,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go under and everyone's gonna get hurt. That
Speaker 1: is what we gotta do right now. The systemic person like,
Speaker 1: slow down, let's think this through, let's evaluate this, let's
Speaker 1: take our time, And they might take a couple of
Speaker 1: years to do what the other person will do wrong
Speaker 1: in the first week, but the wrong one was the
Speaker 1: first week will get more done because they do it
Speaker 1: more often, and if they correct, they do it more often.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel correct enough or not. But
Speaker 1: he clearly he's not empathetic. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: I'm not as high as skill set. Thank you, last category.
Speaker 1: The president of the last category sounds like Barack Obamas
Speaker 1: exactly right, totally systemic. And when you're talking at Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: he's thinking while he's talking to he's filtering every word.
Speaker 1: I watched him, you know, get up and you have
Speaker 1: a speech to first graders and he had to what
Speaker 1: do you call it? Telepropers reading teleproperters the first graders like,
Speaker 1: come on. But then you have this other guy who
Speaker 1: just makes it up as he's standing there. So we've
Speaker 1: gone from one extreme. Yeah, that's what people do in relationship, right,
Speaker 1: this didn't work. Let me throw my pendulum to the
Speaker 1: other side, which also often doesn't work in some people's minds.
Speaker 1: But I think, um, I had a good conversation with
Speaker 1: President Clinton last weekend, but I had an even better
Speaker 1: conversation related to this specifically, a couple of months ago
Speaker 1: with George W. Bush, and I was asking him. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, you never attacked Barack Obama. I really respect
Speaker 1: that about you. And he goes, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: Tony goes, I'm not president United States. The people have spoken.
Speaker 1: I had my eight years, and whether I voted for
Speaker 1: the person or not doesn't matter. They're my president. There,
Speaker 1: you're president. We got to help them succeed. They don't
Speaker 1: do it on their own. And he I said, but
Speaker 1: what do you feel? He goes, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: wanted my brother to win. He said, he obviously didn't.
Speaker 1: But he goes this stuff that the world's over because
Speaker 1: Trump is crazy and insane. He goes, it's so exaggerated,
Speaker 1: and it's quite quite frankly infantile. He said, let's just
Speaker 1: be honest. He said, I used to think this too.
Speaker 1: When Nixon left office impeached. I thought he destroyed the presidency,
Speaker 1: destroyed the reputation Americas, stroyed America. He goes, I was
Speaker 1: dead wrong. He said that was an infantile emotional response.
Speaker 1: Here's the truth. He said, the office is bigger than
Speaker 1: the occupant. People so nervous trepidacious, scared out of their
Speaker 1: mind because we as a culture constantly reinforce fear and
Speaker 1: create tribalism. It's the news way in which we live.
Speaker 1: Since social media plus today we can self fulfill you
Speaker 1: can you you can just watch MSNBC all day long
Speaker 1: or Fox all daylong and you live in a different
Speaker 1: universe or Facebook and read fake news. So people today
Speaker 1: don't want to be interrupted. I mean, in the financial industry,
Speaker 1: it's one of the biggest mistakes that people It's called
Speaker 1: confirmation bias. You know, you go get everybody confirm what
Speaker 1: you believe and you go do that. Well, it's a
Speaker 1: recipe for death. We're doing that here. How do we
Speaker 1: how do we change that? You know? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is something we've talked about frequently. And my friend Nicole says,
Speaker 1: people looking for affirmation, not information. And but you know,
Speaker 1: and there was a piece in the New York Times
Speaker 1: actually recently about how to get out of your bubble,
Speaker 1: and people are trying to encourage people to overlap. But
Speaker 1: I mean, how what's the solution to the first? You
Speaker 1: go first, You got to see what the problem is.
Speaker 1: I believe the problem. You can tell me if you
Speaker 1: agree or disagree. Um. One of the problems clearly is
Speaker 1: that we are not using technology. Technology is now using us.
Speaker 1: Watch how people where people's level of impatience is today
Speaker 1: the bam bam on their phone like this, it's not responding,
Speaker 1: it's going to a satellite. Give it a minute. I mean,
Speaker 1: my god, whether the hell is the matter with you?
Speaker 1: And so you're used to in control every moment on
Speaker 1: the web. So I think it's a combination of technology.
Speaker 1: And we have tolerated this as a culture. You get
Speaker 1: what you tolerate. As an individual, we tolerated, but how
Speaker 1: do you how do you change it? And the only
Speaker 1: way it's so far down line now. The only way
Speaker 1: it changes is the way anything changes. Historically, we throw
Speaker 1: our pendulums until we exhaust that, and sometimes that exhaustion
Speaker 1: goes for a period of you know, a generation, ten
Speaker 1: or fifteen or twenty years. If you think about the
Speaker 1: winter seasons historically, I mean, if you grew up in
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties and forties, came of age at that time,
Speaker 1: you live very differently. Became of age in the fifties,
Speaker 1: then if he came to change in the sixties and seventies,
Speaker 1: a totally different generation than the eighties and nineties two thousands.
Speaker 1: So I personally believe, and I'm guessing no one knows
Speaker 1: for sure. I think we're gonna throw our pendulum and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get exhausted this like we exhausted anything, and
Speaker 1: will eventually come back. How long will that take? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Will President Trump become a CEO who settles
Speaker 1: down and is able to do that or not. You know,
Speaker 1: we're six weeks into it. He's been reinforced for the
Speaker 1: behavior he had his entire life, and he's only for
Speaker 1: the first time having an interruption to that behavior. So
Speaker 1: we'll see. Well, regarding President Trump, you said Donald doesn't
Speaker 1: take coaching, he doesn't want coaching. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of Republicans who are really nervous, scared, even alarmed by
Speaker 1: some of the actions he's taken as president. The fact
Speaker 1: that he doesn't know what he doesn't know, and that
Speaker 1: he has these tweet storms that you know, five thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning making all these accusations that have no
Speaker 1: merit because he's been reading bright Bart News come on.
Speaker 1: And so I think the larger question is can he
Speaker 1: learn from his mistakes and get bigger and better, or
Speaker 1: he's a smarter person. You might give him credit for it.
Speaker 1: He's well trained to be the way he is because
Speaker 1: he's been rewarded so often. But without the rewards, he's
Speaker 1: got the ability to learn. The question is will he
Speaker 1: And I can't answer that question for you, No one can.
Speaker 1: But I think, um, the more we spend time on
Speaker 1: his tweets uh and give it so much attention, you
Speaker 1: just reinforce the behavior. He's going to keep doing it.
Speaker 1: The more put your fist up. If I go like this,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Why are you put him back?
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you to push back. Well, otherwise you're
Speaker 1: gonna break my arm. He's a very strong guy. Actually,
Speaker 1: let let it go. You'll see it. It's not going
Speaker 1: to break your arm. More more you push on somebody,
Speaker 1: I just don't put his fist out. And I pushed
Speaker 1: on it like with my fist, and he's pushing harder
Speaker 1: and harder. I didn't tell him to push I'm still
Speaker 1: across the table from Superman here, and it's very hard
Speaker 1: not to push back a little bit. But think about that.
Speaker 1: It's very hard for him not push back, very hard
Speaker 1: for the media not to push back. But you're more
Speaker 1: optimistic than many people. You think that he can grow
Speaker 1: and get better. But you've said that he doesn't take
Speaker 1: training or coaching at this stage. He's not, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he won't. He's got four years and we're
Speaker 1: all going to be with him four years, where you
Speaker 1: like him or not. So do you really want to
Speaker 1: spend the rest of your life bitching, complaining, whining about
Speaker 1: somebody's style of communicating? Um, you know, we have three
Speaker 1: branches of government. They balance each other out. He's gonna
Speaker 1: pass some things you don't like. That's called life. He's
Speaker 1: gonna not pass some things he wants to that you
Speaker 1: might like. That's life. You know, we're we're living in
Speaker 1: a world where there's so much whining. It's just like,
Speaker 1: how about, let's where the issues are real, let's deal
Speaker 1: with them. But why not? Why is there got to
Speaker 1: be personal? It used to be in Congress when Clinton
Speaker 1: was in office, guys would fight like hell on the
Speaker 1: floor and they go have a beer together. Now the
Speaker 1: problem is if you talk to it aside, you're evil,
Speaker 1: you're immoral. This is absurd, This is childlike behavior. But
Speaker 1: that's expanded to the nation as a whole. And so.
Speaker 1: But but no, I mean not just on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1: And we often heard stories of Reagan and Tip O'Neill
Speaker 1: having a drink together in the Oval office and fighting
Speaker 1: like hell in the halls of Congress. But what do
Speaker 1: you do about such a divided nation? I know this
Speaker 1: is the top topic a on so many shows, and
Speaker 1: I think around so many dinner tables all over the country.
Speaker 1: But these two Americas that are so at each other's
Speaker 1: throats seven, how how do we come together? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's not going to be Kumbaya, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, how do we dissipate this anger and
Speaker 1: vitriol that's just pulsing true society today? Well, it starts
Speaker 1: with the leaders and the leaders of both parties, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's the challenge. But eventually we burn out. Eventually,
Speaker 1: if you look at history, whatever it is, will it
Speaker 1: be anger? You get tired of being anger? It sades,
Speaker 1: you get tired of me sadness I just have. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, why don't we get tired of it? Now?
Speaker 1: Start to focus. Let's focus on what we can do
Speaker 1: instead of we can't. What's the secret to financial well being?
Speaker 1: If not predicting the future. The secret is taking control
Speaker 1: of what you can control. There's many things you can't
Speaker 1: and it's time to surrender to that and focus on
Speaker 1: what you can do. Otherwise you're just everybody just whining,
Speaker 1: and it's like, what is it doing? Is it making
Speaker 1: anything better? Is it changing it all? No, you're just
Speaker 1: getting the habit of being piste off all the time
Speaker 1: or fearful all the time, And a decision made from
Speaker 1: fear or a decision made from anger is almost always
Speaker 1: the wrong decision. If you were coaching President Trump today,
Speaker 1: what would you tell him Your communication style is getting
Speaker 1: in the way of your substance. There's actually substance to
Speaker 1: what he's doing in many cases that some people agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you were to say, look in Syria,
Speaker 1: we cannot vet that these people are who they say
Speaker 1: they are, so in these cases until we can vet,
Speaker 1: we're going to do this for them, it would be
Speaker 1: a different case. But when you talk about Muslims as
Speaker 1: if it's a religion that's wrong, um, then the style
Speaker 1: of communication gets ahold of it anyding. And the second
Speaker 1: thing is calling people idiots or going on the internet
Speaker 1: at three in the morning and attacking everybody who has
Speaker 1: a different point of view makes it impossible to truly
Speaker 1: govern unless you in control of everything. And why do
Speaker 1: you think he does that word? It's fitted so much
Speaker 1: time on him, and why he does it. He doesn't
Speaker 1: because he's been conditioned to do it his whole life.
Speaker 1: He's a real estate guy that worked with very wealthy people.
Speaker 1: He figured a formula, he used debt, he maximized it
Speaker 1: and almost went bankrupt and then really scored in a
Speaker 1: large scale And no matter what he said or did,
Speaker 1: he got reinforced, including with a TV show for twelve years.
Speaker 1: So he's been reinforced. Until new reinforcement happens, you won't
Speaker 1: see a change. That's how humans work. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about leadership, you know, because I think some Americans,
Speaker 1: I would say a lot of them Americans Field there's
Speaker 1: a real dearth of leadership in this country, I would agree. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Why why do you think it's so hard to find
Speaker 1: people that we trust and believe in and want to
Speaker 1: be in charge? Well, think about it today. If you
Speaker 1: and I live in in the world before the Internet,
Speaker 1: and I'm not suggesting to go back of the stupidest
Speaker 1: thing in the world. Maybe maybe in the moment, but
Speaker 1: if you really think about it before, then if you
Speaker 1: want to attack me, you're going to pay a consequence.
Speaker 1: You say something about verbally, you do something and it
Speaker 1: used to be in the media and you can be sued.
Speaker 1: Today with the Internet, we all want to be significant.
Speaker 1: There's only two ways to be significant. Take big risks
Speaker 1: and try to achieve things, and you could fail, and
Speaker 1: if you fail, you feel like you're worthless. Or tear
Speaker 1: everybody else down. Build the tallest building, or tear everybody
Speaker 1: else down. Well, it's not hard to figure out what
Speaker 1: the majority of people do. There's no downside of tearing
Speaker 1: other people down. To the web, there's no consequence. So
Speaker 1: our web behaviors and our technology conditioning has changed our
Speaker 1: culture to where we're no longer kind. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: there are plenty of kind people, and there are kind communities.
Speaker 1: But if you asked is the Internet a kind place?
Speaker 1: The answer is what would you say? Absolutely not? Having
Speaker 1: said that, most of my friends would never ever right
Speaker 1: the kind of garbage that comes my way. I don't know, Brian,
Speaker 1: if you get that, but you know that that comes
Speaker 1: the way of people who maybe disagree with them or
Speaker 1: who are public figures. So yes, I don't also grew
Speaker 1: up in a different generation, right, my daughters would never
Speaker 1: do that. I agree that you're you've you're because you
Speaker 1: brought a different generation. You have different values, right, look
Speaker 1: at it. You're a race, so it's a value system.
Speaker 1: But right now that you can talk about values all
Speaker 1: you want. But then people look at this phone a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty times a day, that's the average, hundred
Speaker 1: fifty times a day at your outdoor brain, and whenever
Speaker 1: you're looking there, they're getting a dopamine hit some times.
Speaker 1: All this cool new things, so they're wired to keep
Speaker 1: doing this and guess what, Like any other addiction, they're
Speaker 1: here all the time. This world I can control you know,
Speaker 1: like me, I'll unfriend you, I'll let it go. We
Speaker 1: have created a selfish society where it's all about me,
Speaker 1: and it's really not about me. It's about the way
Speaker 1: I can frame myself with filters and pictures. You can
Speaker 1: see people getting depressed all the studies on Facebook now,
Speaker 1: and it's because they're not comparing their life to other people.
Speaker 1: They're comparing life to other people's fake lives. Right, So
Speaker 1: I sound old talking to all this crap. Now I
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Well, I'm older than you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, what are practical things. The practical things that
Speaker 1: we have to do is we've got to train people
Speaker 1: to enter a world where they live at their best
Speaker 1: and they're reinforced for it. Let me look, let's be honest.
Speaker 1: All human beings have a two million year old brain,
Speaker 1: and that brain is not designed to make you happy.
Speaker 1: That brain is designed to make you survive. So it's
Speaker 1: a survival software. So what is it looking for anything
Speaker 1: that could hurt me? Well, there's not a saber tooth
Speaker 1: tiger for you to fight or flight or freeze and
Speaker 1: hopefully not spot you. Now we place that with what
Speaker 1: are people thinking about me? As if it's life and
Speaker 1: death or do I have enough money? And let's be honest.
Speaker 1: In this country, if you are in poverty and you know,
Speaker 1: I care, I need a hundred million people a year.
Speaker 1: I don't wan anybody in poverty. But if you're in
Speaker 1: part of the United States, you're not. Is the biggest
Speaker 1: bullshit on the planet. You're the one percent of the
Speaker 1: planet the planet. Three quarters of the planet lives on
Speaker 1: two dollars and fifty cents a day. Nine dollars a year.
Speaker 1: So we're living in a society where we've lost track.
Speaker 1: It's gonna balance? Will it balance as fast as you?
Speaker 1: And I want? No? My job is to educate you.
Speaker 1: I was there. I had ten thousand people in San
Speaker 1: Francisco and San Jose the day after the election. San Francisco,
Speaker 1: so you know what that was. They were depressed, and
Speaker 1: I just I went after him and I said, come on,
Speaker 1: grow up. What the hell are you doing If you
Speaker 1: can't take disappointment, and disappointment drives you into this place,
Speaker 1: how are you gonna deal with your own life? You're
Speaker 1: focused on Trump because you're not mastering your own life.
Speaker 1: But I think there are people who are upset about
Speaker 1: Trump for pretty selfless reasons. Actually, people whose taxes are
Speaker 1: going to be cut by Trump, people who are personally
Speaker 1: going to benefit from Trump. Have said, I don't like
Speaker 1: the example he sets from my children, the cut he's
Speaker 1: going to make. Let's just agree on that. I agree
Speaker 1: with it, So what are you going to do about it? Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's the right, but right so I answer my question,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do about it? I don't have
Speaker 1: an answer that question. Continuing to complain about it isn't
Speaker 1: changing a thing. We can continue to make ourselves miserable
Speaker 1: if you like to continue for now, I'd rather do this.
Speaker 1: I'd rather say argue with the reality is stupid. Sometimes
Speaker 1: reality does not reward what you want, So then what
Speaker 1: should you do? Focus on what you can do and
Speaker 1: what you can control, because otherwise you're just going to
Speaker 1: be upsettled. But now I agree, and I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of people I don't know. Sometimes I feel
Speaker 1: like I get too wrapped up in that. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's whining for journalists to point out these important
Speaker 1: issues to the president, but to try when they're no,
Speaker 1: that's terrible and it's very unprofessional. And journalists shouldn't be
Speaker 1: biased in that way. And I think we're that well.
Speaker 1: Not all of them are. A journalist across the table
Speaker 1: from me is not, I would argue. But today our
Speaker 1: journalists today pure reporters as they once were. Is that
Speaker 1: pure journalism? Many of them are? I do. I think,
Speaker 1: by and large, journalists tend to be more progressive and
Speaker 1: and and and and and care about progressive issues more.
Speaker 1: I think there's Yeah. I went to college and they
Speaker 1: had a professor who was liberal, not conservative, because that's
Speaker 1: who goes and teaches, and so we keep fulfilling that
Speaker 1: that aspect. Personally, I think and I'm not for the
Speaker 1: agenda President Trump, but I personally think it starts even
Speaker 1: at the colleges. We need to have more diversity in
Speaker 1: these colleges. When you look at Berkeley, which is supposed
Speaker 1: to be the home of free speech, and I don't
Speaker 1: even see it. I just have the pictures today. But
Speaker 1: I remember that idiot from bright Bart I can't think
Speaker 1: of his name. I don't support him. But to blow
Speaker 1: shut up, to create fires, to punch people in the
Speaker 1: face so that someone can't speak, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to see that group of people that supposedly started the
Speaker 1: free speech movement? Are you not embarrassed by that? I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you call yourself a liberal and
Speaker 1: opposed the First Amendment and say I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to even expose myself to ideas with which I disagree.
Speaker 1: But speaking of powerful ideas, before we let you go,
Speaker 1: how is that for an awkward segue? We should talk
Speaker 1: about what I'm trying to talking about. How many books
Speaker 1: have you written? Tony? What is this now? Five? I
Speaker 1: guess six. I guess, Wow, good, you're You're a busy guy.
Speaker 1: So this one is unshakable, your financial freedom playbook. And
Speaker 1: this is the result of all your conversations with all
Speaker 1: these financial experts, well not just experts, but every one
Speaker 1: of them was a self made millionaire. And then I
Speaker 1: went Nobel Prize winner that I just brought them people
Speaker 1: the best on earth. But the reason about this book
Speaker 1: is I actually had I do an annual event where
Speaker 1: I bring in, you know, six self made billionaires, some
Speaker 1: of the best financial people in the world, and I
Speaker 1: have them work with my biggest donors, you know, for
Speaker 1: feeding people. And I a year ago I had the
Speaker 1: form a FED chair, Alan Greenspan on nineteen years most
Speaker 1: powerful man in finance for presidents, right, I guess spent
Speaker 1: five hours and then three hours picking his brain, which
Speaker 1: is what I do best. I dig in, find it
Speaker 1: his psychology and his psyche and how things have shifted.
Speaker 1: And then two hours in one of the audience and
Speaker 1: the last thing we talked about negative interest rates and
Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen this in five thousand years
Speaker 1: of banking history, and what the FEDS are doing, and
Speaker 1: this really passionate conversation. So I said, okay, you're back,
Speaker 1: made of head fed today you're the chairman of the
Speaker 1: Fed of Again, what's the first thing you do? And
Speaker 1: the whole room leaned into here and he paused, and
Speaker 1: he paused, and he leaned in and he went resigned.
Speaker 1: I would resign. Was like when the FED chair says
Speaker 1: he resigned. You know we're in trouble. So look, we're
Speaker 1: eight years into this bull market. It's the second largest
Speaker 1: one in history. It doesn't take a genius to figure
Speaker 1: out there's gonna be a crash. It's not negative. It's
Speaker 1: just the fact it always has been. It's historic. But
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do is I wanted three people
Speaker 1: of the fear and show him how to utilize this,
Speaker 1: both protect themselves and take advantage. Because if you're a
Speaker 1: baby boomer and you started too late. I know it's counterintuitive,
Speaker 1: but the next crash is your chance, the leap fraud
Speaker 1: from where you are financially to where you want to be.
Speaker 1: If you're a millennial and you've got all this you know, debt,
Speaker 1: God forbid from you know, college education, you've got you
Speaker 1: think you'll never get out of it. The crash is
Speaker 1: the leveler. It's like if I told you your favorite
Speaker 1: car was I don't know Ferrari, and you said to me,
Speaker 1: I want a Ferrari, and I said, I know a
Speaker 1: place you get them fifty percent off, you'll be out
Speaker 1: of your mind. But when the stock market goes fifty off,
Speaker 1: people freak out. People have the opposite instinct, which is
Speaker 1: to buy high and sell low. Buffett, what you tell
Speaker 1: everybody during that time, this is the greatest opportunity of
Speaker 1: your life by anything. You can be like others are fearful,
Speaker 1: and fearful when you got it absolutely so what what
Speaker 1: people don't know? The reason they're not in the market
Speaker 1: A they think they have no money, And so I
Speaker 1: show them what to do and how to actually just
Speaker 1: take a small percentage and grow it because you just
Speaker 1: don't realize what compounding can do, you know. I give
Speaker 1: an example in the Book of a young Man based
Speaker 1: on a friend. Mind's father convinced him at nineteen that
Speaker 1: he's gonna take three dollars a month and say but,
Speaker 1: which sounds like a lot. But once you automated, you
Speaker 1: don't even think about it just happens. You don't see it,
Speaker 1: And he did it just till he was twenty nine, right,
Speaker 1: so nine years. Total amount of money in was like
Speaker 1: four thousand years, so it's like thirty five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: he left it in the market, and the market over
Speaker 1: the last thirty years is ground ten point to five.
Speaker 1: But I showed you even if it only grown at
Speaker 1: eight percent even less, he ends up taking that thirty
Speaker 1: five tho dollars, never putting another diamond. At sixty five,
Speaker 1: he's got just under a million dollars. His bet that
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of money to be wealthy.
Speaker 1: It takes time and and consistency. His best friend gets
Speaker 1: the idea when he finishes to start at twenty nine,
Speaker 1: and he invests three dollars a month his entire life
Speaker 1: to sixty five, and he never catches up because it's
Speaker 1: time that gives you the advantage. You don't need a
Speaker 1: lot of money. How many great athletes, how many great
Speaker 1: movie stars, actresses? Actors? Have you seen that made more
Speaker 1: money than god? And now they're totally broke. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at fifty cent he know he got a
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar tip on vitamin water. You made I
Speaker 1: think it was four or million bucks if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: and he's bankrupt. He bought Tyson's home and Tyson went bankrupt.
Speaker 1: Who made a half a billion dollars right now? I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's true, but I read the other
Speaker 1: day that what's pirates scabbean Johnny Depp he made three
Speaker 1: quarters of a billion dollars seven or fifty million dollars,
Speaker 1: and they're talking about him going bankrupt right now because
Speaker 1: he spent thirty thousand a month on wine and he
Speaker 1: spent three million dollars. Take Hunter Thompson burned his body
Speaker 1: and blow it in a cannon into space. It's hard
Speaker 1: to live a nice lifestyle and three quarters of a
Speaker 1: billion dollars and you've got to economize unless you make
Speaker 1: money your slave. You're the slave to money. And unless
Speaker 1: you learn how to make money while you're sleep, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And every American can do. And it's
Speaker 1: not a full time job. It requires you to get
Speaker 1: in the game. But you've got to know what the
Speaker 1: rules are so you don't get taken advantage of because truthfully, uh,
Speaker 1: the level of the seat that happens in this industry
Speaker 1: is greater than almost any industry in the world because
Speaker 1: there just isn't it's parents e and people use language.
Speaker 1: It makes people feel like they don't know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: and so they just give up. And then they beat
Speaker 1: you to death with fees you don't even know you're paying.
Speaker 1: So this is this book is really for everyone, not
Speaker 1: for wealthy people anybody. Now, this is a book designed
Speaker 1: to show you how you can leap frog where you
Speaker 1: are where you want to be, and to make sure
Speaker 1: a you're protected during the next time, but more importantly,
Speaker 1: that you take advantage of what the next time will
Speaker 1: provide for you. I mean, I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1: Why are people afraid you in the market's gonna crash? Well,
Speaker 1: every day you hear another we broke another record, you
Speaker 1: know here at the dolls up another one. Well, if
Speaker 1: you look over the history of the stock market, on average,
Speaker 1: we break we have a new record once a month.
Speaker 1: Now sometimes that happens seven in a week, but that's
Speaker 1: the average that we've had over time. But here's what's
Speaker 1: really interesting. Every year we have a correction. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be stressed and you're forty years old
Speaker 1: and you're gonna live to eighty five, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: forty five more corrections to go through. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: stressed the rest of your freaking life. Remember last January,
Speaker 1: the worst January in history, two point two trillion dollars
Speaker 1: melted down. But where we end up year record breaking
Speaker 1: eighty percent of those corrections, and a correction for those
Speaker 1: listening is anytime you drop more than ten percent up
Speaker 1: to twenty from where the peak was, that's called a correction.
Speaker 1: Eighty percent of them don't become a crash. They don't
Speaker 1: become that melt down that everybody's afraid of at the
Speaker 1: deepest level. And so you literally you you see fourteen
Speaker 1: percent dropout, and it bounces right back unless you sell.
Speaker 1: I always tell people the market never took a dime
Speaker 1: from anyone you did. Now watch this. What about those
Speaker 1: big bear markets? They last a year on average, They
Speaker 1: cost us an average of thirty three if you sell,
Speaker 1: if you don't sell, and cost you anything. And here's
Speaker 1: what people have to know. Every single bear market, every
Speaker 1: crash in the history of the the United States for two
Speaker 1: centuries plus, has been followed by a bull market that
Speaker 1: goes crazy. If you remember two thousand and eight, we
Speaker 1: lost you know, from peak to trough briefly, it was
Speaker 1: really around thirty five for most people, but we went
Speaker 1: we made six starting on March nine. Coming up a
Speaker 1: few days from now is the anniversary for the next
Speaker 1: twelve months. I can show that to you every time
Speaker 1: in history of the United States. That's why Warren Buffett says,
Speaker 1: you don't want to bet against the United States the
Speaker 1: last two centuries. The dumbest bet you could possibly make.
Speaker 1: You want to be in the market, not sell, And
Speaker 1: when the market crashes, you want to buy things for
Speaker 1: a discount. Well, in your message, which is a very
Speaker 1: powerful one and one that I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people need to hear, is you can't market time. You
Speaker 1: brought to bear a great stat in the book about
Speaker 1: how most of your gains happened during these days. I forget,
Speaker 1: It's like a dozen days the course of the year.
Speaker 1: Get the hot button. Check this out. So people are
Speaker 1: trying to time the market. Oh my god, the market's
Speaker 1: too high. How long have you been hearing that? For
Speaker 1: eight years? The market's got up two How have we
Speaker 1: heard that since since Trump got in office? We're up
Speaker 1: right now? Trump bump. But he isn't gonna correct. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's gonna correct. It's gonna happen. But here's what you
Speaker 1: gotta know. Warren Buffett said to me, Tony, those guys
Speaker 1: on CNBC, those market forecasters, they're only there, he said,
Speaker 1: to make fortune tellers look good because no one can
Speaker 1: predict the market. But here's what you can predict. There's
Speaker 1: a study done over the last twenty years by both
Speaker 1: JP Morgan and by Charles Swamp. They did independently. What
Speaker 1: they found is, over thirty years we've done ten point
Speaker 1: to eight percent, which is amazing. Over the last twenty
Speaker 1: years we've done eight point two percent. But if you
Speaker 1: missed just ten of the best training days in twenty years, now,
Speaker 1: what are your chances of knowing which days those are
Speaker 1: going to be? So you're out because you're thinking is overvalued,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, you're scared. If you missed
Speaker 1: the top training ten trading days, that's all in twenty years,
Speaker 1: you moved from having an eight percent return where you're
Speaker 1: doubling your money every nine years and get wealthy. Of
Speaker 1: doing that, it drops down to four and a half percent.
Speaker 1: Almost in a half. You've missed the top twenty days,
Speaker 1: you will only make two percent. You might as well
Speaker 1: have been in bonds. And if you missed the top
Speaker 1: thirty days one and a half days for twenty years,
Speaker 1: that's all one half days each year for twenty years,
Speaker 1: you lose money. See, the most dangerous thing is not
Speaker 1: getting the market. You've got to be in the market
Speaker 1: because it's given the highest rates of return for the
Speaker 1: last two centuries. It has the most volatility, which is
Speaker 1: why you have to have diversification, like I show you.
Speaker 1: But it is the opportunity of your lifetime to be
Speaker 1: in there and be unlike other people and be unshakable.
Speaker 1: All right, before we go, I feel like watching Tony.
Speaker 1: He's got so much energy. Do you drink a lot
Speaker 1: of coffee. I don't drink any coffee. You imagine me
Speaker 1: one you would be scary, really so. But you do
Speaker 1: have some kind of funky personal routine. You you you you.
Speaker 1: You jump into this cold pool every morning when you're
Speaker 1: at one of your homes plural, that's fifty seven degrees
Speaker 1: the water that um it stimulates. It's done all over
Speaker 1: the world, but especially in the northern countries to go
Speaker 1: hot cold stimulate the limp system. The blood flow cleans
Speaker 1: your system out. But I also do it for another reason.
Speaker 1: Which is you know, most people don't do what they
Speaker 1: need to do. They know what they should do, but
Speaker 1: they don't do it. You know, you know what to do,
Speaker 1: but they don't do what they know. Right. So when
Speaker 1: I did early on, as I said, I want to
Speaker 1: train my brain that when I say we're doing this,
Speaker 1: I'm not negotiating with myself. Well do it tomorrow. So
Speaker 1: I get in every day for one reason and to
Speaker 1: teach my brain. When I say we do it, we
Speaker 1: do it, and now it does. If I want to
Speaker 1: go make the run, I want to do the business thing.
Speaker 1: There's no hesitancy in me. There's no negotiation within myself
Speaker 1: and that has enormous power. If you want to build
Speaker 1: things and create things and have an impact with people.
Speaker 1: You also do breathing exercises. I do. I start every
Speaker 1: day with my first ten minutes. Is a form of meditation,
Speaker 1: sort of meditation. Like here's what I do. I do
Speaker 1: a radical change in my body because changing your breathing
Speaker 1: changes the way the brain works. If you study you
Speaker 1: know yoga, various esoteric sciences. The breath is like the
Speaker 1: string on a kite. The kite is your brain. If
Speaker 1: you change the breath, you change how the brain becomes engaged.
Speaker 1: So I do this radical explosive breathing. I do three
Speaker 1: sets of thirty, and that changes my stake of it.
Speaker 1: I hear what radical explosive breathing sounds like a little
Speaker 1: louder than that, harder than that. And I do thirty
Speaker 1: of them? Right, I do thirty paws, thirty pause. Then
Speaker 1: I spend ten minutes, and I do three minutes where
Speaker 1: all I focus on our three things. I'm grateful for you.
Speaker 1: Now why it sounds man? Be pan be gratitude. Who cares?
Speaker 1: Two emotions that screw us up? And you see them
Speaker 1: in our society right now are anger and fear. They'll
Speaker 1: screw up your business, they'll screw up your intimate relationship,
Speaker 1: they'll screw up your health. And the antidote is gratitude.
Speaker 1: It can't be grateful and angry simultaneously. It's impossible. So
Speaker 1: if you cultivate that gratitude, there's no anger there. You
Speaker 1: can't be fearful and grateful simultaneously. So by taking three
Speaker 1: minutes to start every day and bringing that up in
Speaker 1: my nervous system with real stuff, not positive thinking, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy and making it up a bunch of affirmations.
Speaker 1: I think about real situations and I make one really simple,
Speaker 1: like the wind on my face, my child smile, Because
Speaker 1: if you only train yourself to respond to big things,
Speaker 1: then you don't enjoy life. It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: astronauts that went to the moon came back. What do
Speaker 1: you do when your thirty five you went to the moon,
Speaker 1: you took the presidence and the taper time, you know,
Speaker 1: the ticker tape parade? What the hell do you do now?
Speaker 1: And most of them got addicted to drugs and alcohol
Speaker 1: because they found adventure only in a smile. They didn't
Speaker 1: find it and excuse me, I'm going to the moon
Speaker 1: versus a smile. So I do three minutes and I
Speaker 1: focus on it and I feel it like I'm there,
Speaker 1: and it makes my nervous system go. Then I do
Speaker 1: three minutes of prayer and kind of blessings if you
Speaker 1: would to my children, my family, my coworkers, my associates
Speaker 1: and people I meet on the street. And then my
Speaker 1: last tomorrow I promise I will, But then my last
Speaker 1: three minutes is kind of my three to three to
Speaker 1: five to thrive, I think of three things that I
Speaker 1: really want to accomplished that matter to me, and I
Speaker 1: see it and feel it is done and kind of
Speaker 1: celebrate it. And what that does is it sets up
Speaker 1: your brain where you're grateful instead of reactionary. You're loving
Speaker 1: to the people around you and yourself and bussing side
Speaker 1: and you're clear what is you really want to make happen,
Speaker 1: and you're certain it's going to happen. And it takes
Speaker 1: ten minutes, and honestly, I'll usually go fifteen or twenty
Speaker 1: because it feels so good. But there's no excuse not
Speaker 1: to do it, because you know, if you don't have
Speaker 1: ten minutes, you've got a life. And so that's what
Speaker 1: I do. That and my jumping in that freezing water
Speaker 1: are my Yeah, no, I I use I lymphasize. I
Speaker 1: use a rebounder. Yeah, it moves your lymp the limp.
Speaker 1: You know, the heart and the blood is moved by
Speaker 1: the heart, but the lymph has very little that can
Speaker 1: move it around other than strong explosive breath, strong breathing
Speaker 1: and movement exercise. So the length is critical. It's the
Speaker 1: detoxication system your body. So bouncing out a rebound or
Speaker 1: allows you to move the limp, but it doesn't when
Speaker 1: you hit the ground, you don't have the impact. That's
Speaker 1: part of them. I don't know about you, Brian, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to do those three things tomorrow. And I
Speaker 1: don't have a trampoline, but see if not going to
Speaker 1: do that either. But the people you're grateful, the gratitude thing,
Speaker 1: which my husband says I should do more, and the
Speaker 1: prayers and then the intentions. Yeah, the three things you're
Speaker 1: committed to, right, but seeing it as done failures done.
Speaker 1: It's really simplistic, but when you do it every day,
Speaker 1: it reinforces that. You also just got to think about
Speaker 1: we all do what we've trained our nervous system to do.
Speaker 1: If you bitch all the time, you're gonna bitch all
Speaker 1: the time. If you're grateful the time, you're grateful a time,
Speaker 1: if you're we all know people that are funny no
Speaker 1: matter what happens, right, you know, and how do they
Speaker 1: do it? They wired themselves to do it. So why
Speaker 1: not wire yourself for higher emotional states that will affect
Speaker 1: your family and your businesses and your coworkers and associates
Speaker 1: as opposed to just showing up and hoping you feel
Speaker 1: good with an environment that if you turn on anything.
Speaker 1: If this thing's following you, you're probably gonna be unhappy
Speaker 1: because all I gotta do is open us up and
Speaker 1: there'll be twenty things about Trump and twenty things about
Speaker 1: the record show. He is holding his iPhone. I feel
Speaker 1: like I should do of what Tony Robbins does. I
Speaker 1: will be a hugely successful person. That's for damn. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're amazing. Really, you guys are sweet. Now, we all
Speaker 1: we all have our gifts, and I'm just clear what
Speaker 1: my mission is. I think you're clear about yours. And
Speaker 1: I don't know you well enough to know, but it
Speaker 1: sounds like you've found a partner here and still figuring
Speaker 1: it out Brian, and Brian is clear as well. That's wonderful.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much for people pick
Speaker 1: up the book, because we're going to feed another hundred
Speaker 1: million people. That every book will feed fifty people. All
Speaker 1: the profits are going to Yeah, last time, we sold
Speaker 1: a million copies in hardbackup money Master the Game, so
Speaker 1: we've had fifty million people. But I'm donating it regardless,
Speaker 1: even if you don't buy the book for yourself. If
Speaker 1: people are interested in learning more about your charity and
Speaker 1: about what you you to feed people all over the globe.
Speaker 1: How do they do that? They can go to feeding
Speaker 1: America dot org and you can look up to Tony
Speaker 1: Robbins hundred million More they call it because every year
Speaker 1: we do another hundred million a billion person challenge basically,
Speaker 1: or you go to my website at Tony Robbins dot com.
Speaker 1: So fun to have you, so nice to see you again.
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