Speaker 1: What's gift in my three and a half foot long machees.
Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans, host of Behind the Bastards, the podcast
Speaker 1: where we talked about the worst people in history and
Speaker 1: where I received a beautiful, heartwarming gift from my co
Speaker 1: host today, Billy Wayne Davis. Hey, everybody. Yeah, now, Billy Wayne,
Speaker 1: I got back from Syria not too long ago, and
Speaker 1: you surprised me with one of the best presents I've
Speaker 1: ever received, which is essentially a small sword. It is
Speaker 1: it's like a if they made a baseball bat and
Speaker 1: a sword. Yeah, it's an unnecessarily large Fiskers machete that's
Speaker 1: got a two handed grip, which I love. I love.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to hit things with us. I can't.
Speaker 1: I didn't have, like we've had this discussion. We both
Speaker 1: have multiple machete You know, you don't have children or
Speaker 1: a wife. No, I have those things. Well that's true
Speaker 1: that you know about any wives you know about? Uh,
Speaker 1: but I found it on Amazon and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't have a reason to get this, and then
Speaker 1: I remembered you went to Syria, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's noble as hell. Yeah, Well, noble
Speaker 1: is not the right way to say. Maybe I just
Speaker 1: did it to justify getting another machete. We didn't know
Speaker 1: it was coming. I didn't know it was coming. But
Speaker 1: that's purely noble like that, you're so humble. You're like,
Speaker 1: I just did it to give a machete. You didn't
Speaker 1: know I was going to do that. I did not
Speaker 1: know it was going to do that. But now that
Speaker 1: I have it, the machete feels like a worthwhile prize
Speaker 1: for for this work, and I'm excited to find new
Speaker 1: things to hit with it. There's so many different things
Speaker 1: to do with it. There's it's there were several meetings.
Speaker 1: I think it went on designing those fiskers a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in the holes in the back, which I
Speaker 1: think make it faster. Is that what it is? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I suspect they make it faster. The grip
Speaker 1: is really I have large hands and I liked that
Speaker 1: the grip is the perfect length for both of them.
Speaker 1: On there, I'm excited up to Sophie provided me with
Speaker 1: a bag of chips to to cut open, which he
Speaker 1: threw at me. That was fun when I'm excited, though,
Speaker 1: I got this can of fabrieze Billy Wayne Davis Man Sophie.
Speaker 1: Sophie just put her head in her hands, covered her eyes,
Speaker 1: very exasperated. I'm gonna smells good. Gain smells good, So
Speaker 1: I would be improving the room if I if I
Speaker 1: have you tossed this at me and hit it with
Speaker 1: a machete bat I think Sophie's flipping me off with
Speaker 1: let's do that at the end. Yeah, we should do
Speaker 1: that at the end of the gift to the podcast.
Speaker 1: We can knock it into the poison room. We can
Speaker 1: just open the door quickly knocked the fabris can into
Speaker 1: the poison room. That way, if it sprays everywhere, it
Speaker 1: doesn't render the room uninhabitable. We can lock it with
Speaker 1: the poison. It's great. I think that's a plan, all right.
Speaker 1: Sophie seems to be on board. I think she's proud
Speaker 1: of me. Now. It's hard to tell which of her
Speaker 1: size means pride and which doesn't. Daniel's Daniels nodding at
Speaker 1: me with pride though he's happy. He thinks I made
Speaker 1: a good decision. Yeah. When it showed up, my wife
Speaker 1: was like, what why don't we You don't need it,
Speaker 1: it's a gift, and she goes, I don't know who
Speaker 1: you're hanging out with it and just walked off. This
Speaker 1: is one of the most beautiful gifts I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Billy Wayne, thank you. This is my new official podcasting machette.
Speaker 1: It's not as rusty as my old one, no, but
Speaker 1: it'll get rust on it. Yes, if I'm doing my job,
Speaker 1: I'll get some rust on this fucker handle It last
Speaker 1: a lot longer than that blaze. Well, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the founder of chiropractic medicine today. So the first dude
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, honey, come walcome back, I think
Speaker 1: the first dude to be like, you're sick, let me
Speaker 1: walk on your back. Okay, yes, I got you. Now,
Speaker 1: Billy Wayne, what is the first word that comes to
Speaker 1: your mind when you hear the term chiropractor. We're on
Speaker 1: the script now, I mean scam. We're already in the
Speaker 1: right head space for this. So yeah, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guess for most people it's probably like spine or back
Speaker 1: or scam. Uh yeah, um. Some people might say medicine um,
Speaker 1: depending on whether or not they believe in in hiropracticum.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bet almost nobody's first word is religion. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I'm already in it. I'm already in
Speaker 1: you're putting these two together. Go on, Well, today we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about how chiropractic medicine or whatever you
Speaker 1: wanna call it, started out as a religion, or, to
Speaker 1: be more accurate, a cult. So this is this is
Speaker 1: that story. Can I predict dude uses it to get
Speaker 1: laid eventually? You know, I assume he did, but that
Speaker 1: was not the focus of the cult because usually from
Speaker 1: my experience, when a dude starts a cult, yeah, it's sex.
Speaker 1: This seems to have been. You know, it's the kind
Speaker 1: of guy we always talk about, Billy. This is a
Speaker 1: man who wanted very badly to be a doctor, but
Speaker 1: who never wanted to actually become a doctor, who just
Speaker 1: wanted to like no medicine and just assume that whatever
Speaker 1: his gut told him was medicine. That's huh. It's it's
Speaker 1: a special type of man who does that is a
Speaker 1: special where like, did you could just go to school?
Speaker 1: I could just go to school four years and just
Speaker 1: be a shitty doctor. Yeah, now no, I will kill
Speaker 1: some people. I'm just going to figure it out, learn
Speaker 1: as I go. I love it. So this tale starts,
Speaker 1: as all such tales do, with a single beautiful grifter.
Speaker 1: Daniel David Palmer here to four known as D D. Palmer,
Speaker 1: He was born on March five and a now non
Speaker 1: existent town near Toronto, Canada. At the time, it was
Speaker 1: known to most people as a way out west. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it disappeared. Yeah, it's just gone. Now nobody
Speaker 1: lives in that place anymore. It's just a field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like a field. That was town. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like a little town. And then everyone was like, living
Speaker 1: out here is kind of bullshit. Have you been, Tony?
Speaker 1: Have you been to Toronto? It's a city now. Everyone left.
Speaker 1: It's not just a dead horse in a pond. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's the circus came to town and then the town disappeared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Toronto did start as a dead horse in a pond. Uh.
Speaker 1: That checks out. Yeah, that's my name had cannon for Toronto,
Speaker 1: so uh. D D. Palmer's family had come over to
Speaker 1: Canada from England during his grandfather's time. His father was
Speaker 1: a shoemaker, a grocer, a school director and a postmaster.
Speaker 1: Because back in the old days there were only about
Speaker 1: thirty people in the worldtown. Yeah, everybody had to wear
Speaker 1: a lot of hats. Um. Now, d we got one
Speaker 1: pair of shoes. Busy one. He's busy being the grocery today,
Speaker 1: he's he's running the school tomorrow. He's back on shoe
Speaker 1: duty in three days. So he just hopped there. So. D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer was the oldest of six children, three boys and
Speaker 1: three girls. From age four until age eleven, he attended
Speaker 1: a small rural school while his father tried and failed
Speaker 1: in multiple businesses. Um because again he wasn't actually good
Speaker 1: at most of the two he was good at shoes,
Speaker 1: couldn't do the right shoes. He was too busy figuring
Speaker 1: out out of male stuff. Uh so yeah. From age
Speaker 1: four until age eleven, D. D. Palmer attended a small
Speaker 1: rural school, and by the time he was eleven, the
Speaker 1: family's financial situation was bad enough that he had to
Speaker 1: start working and so he had to stop going to school.
Speaker 1: So his dad made a deal with him. Can I
Speaker 1: just yeah, that's like that means like nothing, that means
Speaker 1: like you start owing people. You mean, like that's how
Speaker 1: bad things were. We're like the oldest has to quit
Speaker 1: work and during those times like this is bad, right,
Speaker 1: what we're like I owe people. Now, yeah, I owe
Speaker 1: people to nothing. You're enough of a man at eleven,
Speaker 1: you gotta start bringing in some fucking cash. That's that's haven.
Speaker 1: Who Yeah, yeah, that's that's poor. Like putting your eleven
Speaker 1: year older work poor. Yeah. Uh. And now d D. Palmer,
Speaker 1: even though like he was, his family's super poor and
Speaker 1: he had to go to work, he still wanted to learn.
Speaker 1: He was a big love loved learning. Uh, And so
Speaker 1: he made a deal with his dad. Uh, if he
Speaker 1: worked hours before and after the full time jewel that
Speaker 1: he had to work to keep the family fed, Uh,
Speaker 1: he could keep the money that he made working overtime
Speaker 1: and apply that money to buying school clothes and school
Speaker 1: books for himself so he could continue to learn. God,
Speaker 1: yeah that's hurt. Well, alright, son, forty hours a week,
Speaker 1: that's got to go to feeding the family. But if
Speaker 1: you work sixty you can buy school books. I mean,
Speaker 1: what a weird way to have to go. And like, God,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to negotiate so I can keep learning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know people with versions of that story that started
Speaker 1: like age eighteen or nineteen. I don't know anybody with
Speaker 1: that story starting If I don't know more than this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to keep doing this. Yeah, that's pretty
Speaker 1: at yourself. I do. I do think there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of this in there where he's just like sees
Speaker 1: his dad's life and it's like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a postmaster. I don't want to do that when
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to be working his dead end job.
Speaker 1: When I'm fifteen. Your life's over at that point. Three
Speaker 1: kids by then, three quarters of your life is over.
Speaker 1: Town won't be around then. So Palmer worked beyond full
Speaker 1: time for most of his childhood and was able to
Speaker 1: slowly afford to finish his education, but age twenty one,
Speaker 1: he had the nineteenth century equivalent of an education. Decades later, D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer would write this in his autobiography about his upbringing, quote,
Speaker 1: my mother was one of a pair of twins, one
Speaker 1: of which died, the one which lived only weighed one
Speaker 1: and a half pounds when a baby I was cradled,
Speaker 1: but in a piece of him locked bark. My mother
Speaker 1: was as full of superstition as an egg is full
Speaker 1: of meat. But my father was disposed to reason on
Speaker 1: the subjects pertaining to life. It's like, yeah, he opens
Speaker 1: his autobiography. There's a lot. There's a lot to unpack there,
Speaker 1: mainly the expression as an egg is full of That's
Speaker 1: where I was like, I didn't know where to start
Speaker 1: or begin, but that's where that the look on my
Speaker 1: face was at. I was like, what kind of eggs
Speaker 1: are this? Where'd you get those eggs? I imagine this
Speaker 1: whole back story for him, where like his dad couldn't
Speaker 1: afford eggs, so they were like just eating like road
Speaker 1: kill and must grats, And he was lying to his
Speaker 1: kids and being like, what's this gross smelling meat? That's
Speaker 1: an egg. It's an egg. That's what they would like,
Speaker 1: leave the shell, you know, meat eggs, And what was
Speaker 1: the doctor talking about? Also, cradling a baby in a
Speaker 1: piece of hemlock bark seems like a bad idea, Like
Speaker 1: all the things he he just sounds like like a
Speaker 1: folks he got got hit on the head, where you like,
Speaker 1: don't listen to what he's saying. Just listen to the rhythm.
Speaker 1: It's more entertaining. Yeah, And I'll tell you there's some
Speaker 1: head injuries in this guy's past. He doesn't write about him,
Speaker 1: but I can't imagine having this upbringing and not getting
Speaker 1: hit on the head a few times, all of them,
Speaker 1: and they're all like everyone we've talked about came from
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, which I do think there is
Speaker 1: something to that where they might be the smartest or
Speaker 1: the most ambitious in that area. So everyone just calls
Speaker 1: him doctor. Yeah, and they're like, I'm a doctor. It
Speaker 1: was easier back then. It's like Granny from the Beverly hillbilities.
Speaker 1: I do feel like one of the great untold stories
Speaker 1: of history is how many great men of the past
Speaker 1: had diagnosed traumatic brain injuries. Like Andrew Jackson. You hear
Speaker 1: about sometimes he just beat people half to death. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just shoot people in the streets in Nashville. They're like,
Speaker 1: what was that? That was the That was the governor.
Speaker 1: He probably had brain damage and an inability to control
Speaker 1: his temper, but he made it work for You can
Speaker 1: make random violence work for you if you do it,
Speaker 1: if it's not as random as people think it is. Yes,
Speaker 1: or it's like I've said that too before. Is like
Speaker 1: a lot of the most successful people, male or female,
Speaker 1: make their mental illness really work for them. Well, that's
Speaker 1: the key. That's the key is finding a way to
Speaker 1: make your mental illness make you money, which is the
Speaker 1: subject of my new health book, Think and Grow Sick.
Speaker 1: Read between the Lines mental health book. You get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just just find a way, just find a way to
Speaker 1: make a gel with capitalism. That's all it's about. That's
Speaker 1: all it's about. Yeah, that's what that's that's the only
Speaker 1: difference between a alcoholic and an alcoholic is one of
Speaker 1: them is functional in our economy. Yeah, an alcohol So
Speaker 1: all right, back to d D. Palmer. So d D
Speaker 1: went by Dan to most of his friends and family,
Speaker 1: but we're just going to call him d D. He
Speaker 1: grew up big and strong as a quote husky country
Speaker 1: boy who was widely liked. He had an inquisitive mind,
Speaker 1: but was particularly interested in anatomy. In the rare hours
Speaker 1: of free time he got outside of work in school,
Speaker 1: Dan would collect the bones of animals, which, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. I love collecting bones myself,
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to pretend it's not a red flag.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's a red flag, like having a lot
Speaker 1: of machetes. Well, yeah, there's yes, it is unnecessary red flag,
Speaker 1: but it's let's keep an eye on him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, my house is full of dead animals and
Speaker 1: and machetes. And if that makes people want to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on me, that's not a bad from Texas.
Speaker 1: That doesn't No bells are ringing for me at that
Speaker 1: He's he's got a lot of knives and dead animals
Speaker 1: in Austright, Yeah, it is. It does kind of depend
Speaker 1: on what region you come from. If I were to
Speaker 1: hear somebody from let's say Boston say that, that would
Speaker 1: worry me more. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, where'd you get
Speaker 1: that white tail? Okay? So the US Civil War was
Speaker 1: disastrous for the Canadian economy, largely because the nation's labor
Speaker 1: market became flooded with Americans fleeing the draft. By the
Speaker 1: time Daniel was in his early twenties, he and his
Speaker 1: brother Thomas were forced to head south to the United
Speaker 1: States in order to seek work. They managed to borrow
Speaker 1: two dollars from their friends, which at the time was
Speaker 1: enough to strike out and start a new life. What
Speaker 1: a day that was, Yeah, or that's what they thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what they thought. Well it works out for him. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know about his friend. He might have died
Speaker 1: on the fucking ditch somewhere but it works out for
Speaker 1: d D. Palmer. So on April third's got four dollars. Uh.
Speaker 1: On April third, eighteen sixty five, they walked eighteen not
Speaker 1: miles to the town of Whitby in the United States.
Speaker 1: Somehow they wound up in Detroit a couple of months later,
Speaker 1: after a winding journey that involved sleeping on grain sacks
Speaker 1: on a pier and probably hitching lots of rides on trains. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're imagining like a traditional nineteenth century hobo journey here.
Speaker 1: So Dan and his brother explored a number of jobs,
Speaker 1: but the line of work that dee De found most
Speaker 1: appealing was, of course, medicine. Specifically, he became a magnetic healer. Cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, Yeah, he thinks, so Billy, Yes, you feel better, right,
Speaker 1: it's the magnets. It's the magnet. Get out here. Magnets
Speaker 1: has been a popular medical treatment for all sorts of
Speaker 1: ailments for thousands of years, going back to the beginning
Speaker 1: of civilization. It's still selling the golfers, They still sell
Speaker 1: to everybody. You get a bracelet, Yes, these magnets will
Speaker 1: cure your fucking emphysema. Yeah, you got tennis elbow magnets
Speaker 1: with copper with you gotta have the copper without the copper.
Speaker 1: I've got a new magnetic copper machete, Billy Way, and
Speaker 1: I want to start selling it. Cure's youre arthritis? That's
Speaker 1: from a new book, Machete Your Way to Better Health?
Speaker 1: Did you get arthritis cutting through the jungle? Do I
Speaker 1: have a machete for you? You didn't get one of
Speaker 1: the arthritis here and machetes not. Keep gesturing with this machete,
Speaker 1: by the way, Billy. It is powerful, feels good. It
Speaker 1: is how you doing, Sophie, get people's attention. You love
Speaker 1: this machete as much as I do. And I hang
Speaker 1: it above the door. You have you swung it? Oh
Speaker 1: you gotta swing the machete so you can't judge it.
Speaker 1: But because here, I'll throw this bottle of water at it,
Speaker 1: and you you hit it like a baseball bat. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're mad me nervous? Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to get some Actually, I'm gonna throw this
Speaker 1: this highlighter pen at you'll feel better to hit. Okay,
Speaker 1: we do. I'm gonna overhand it. Oh come on, Sophie,
Speaker 1: all right, bad, that's not how you would hit a baseball,
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna make incredible audio for the podcast.
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna keep throwing things in Sophie. She's pacifist.
Speaker 1: She can't do is going to make a good powerful
Speaker 1: swings that everywhere he goes. And she took it away.
Speaker 1: There's throat lozenges all over the floor, sackle losenges, throwing lozenges. Now,
Speaker 1: are you still anti? I mean, I like it. It's great.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Roberts should have free reign. I
Speaker 1: think I'm looking forward to hitting this for breeze can
Speaker 1: into the poison room. I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch it from a safe distance. So uh. Magnets have
Speaker 1: been a popular treatment for all kinds of ailments for
Speaker 1: thousands of years, going back to the beginning of civilization itself.
Speaker 1: People have always been aware that certain minerals have magnetic properties,
Speaker 1: and the idea of sticking them on sick people to
Speaker 1: alleviate symptoms just sort of came naturally to folks. By
Speaker 1: six hundred, the idea that magnets might have some sort
Speaker 1: of serious medical benefit had been thoroughly debunked by a
Speaker 1: man named William Gilbert. Gilbert published a book De Magnete
Speaker 1: in which he carried out comprehensive experiments to test popular
Speaker 1: health claims about magnets and proved that they had zero validity.
Speaker 1: This is a six D sixteen hundreds. This guy, William
Speaker 1: Gilbert's like, let's test to see if everyone's using magnets
Speaker 1: for pain. Let's test them. Nope, they don't do anything.
Speaker 1: So like five five years ago, yeah, humans are like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't stop it. Well we're still like. One smart
Speaker 1: human was like, this doesn't stop. It's true. No one
Speaker 1: listened to him, and then capitalism is like, hey, don't listen.
Speaker 1: It keeps selling magnets. People want to hit their golf
Speaker 1: ball longer. Yeah. Proof never convinced anyone to not take
Speaker 1: snake away. Yeah, it's like the fact that we knew
Speaker 1: five hundred years ago that magnets didn't do shit, had
Speaker 1: meant nothing. They can't hurt me, though, so yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: they'll cure my arthritis. Have you seen no cool this
Speaker 1: bracelet looks? Look it turned my my skins green. Final
Speaker 1: one thing about medicine is that the best medicine comes
Speaker 1: as a bracelet, and I buy it it Dicks sportings. Look, man,
Speaker 1: I had a doctor named Richard wants Dick sporting goods.
Speaker 1: Same thing, same thing. Yeah, the the weights gesture because
Speaker 1: they're equivalent, because that's a logical stamp. According to the
Speaker 1: Skeptical Inquiry, writing on the subject of magnetic healing quote
Speaker 1: in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, Franz Mesmer dramatically increased
Speaker 1: the popularity of magnetic healing with his animal magnetism theory.
Speaker 1: Mesmer thought that animal magnetism was a unique force of
Speaker 1: nature that flowed like a fluid through living things. He
Speaker 1: also thought he could manipulate it through a combination of
Speaker 1: hypnotism and laying on of hands. After a high profile
Speaker 1: debunking by a commission led by Benjamin Franklin, however, Mesmer's
Speaker 1: fame faded and he died poor and forgotten. Turns out
Speaker 1: he just into based reality. He's just he's just sucking animals.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go drink bigger and being Franklin. Yeah. But unfortunately,
Speaker 1: like other debunkers, people didn't really listen to Ben Franklin either,
Speaker 1: because Mesmer has continued to maintain a following even after
Speaker 1: his death. Yeah, yeah, people, that's where Mesmerism comes from. Mesmerizing,
Speaker 1: that's where that works. Yeah. He was like one of
Speaker 1: the big popularizers of hypnotism and ship. He's just charismatic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And one of his big followers was D. D. Palmer. Now,
Speaker 1: Palmer was not at all convinced by the debunkings carried
Speaker 1: out by men like Franklin. For nine years, he used
Speaker 1: magnets to treat, or rather to fail to treat, all
Speaker 1: the sundary ailments of his fellow man. As a charismatic guy,
Speaker 1: his work attracted attention. He received negative write ups in
Speaker 1: local newspapers, like this article in the Davenport Leader. Dr Palmer,
Speaker 1: a crank on magnetism, has a crazy notion that he
Speaker 1: can cure the sick and crippled by his magnetic hands.
Speaker 1: His victims are the weak, willed, ignorant, and superstitious, those
Speaker 1: foolish people who have been sick for years and have
Speaker 1: become tired of the regular physician and what helped by
Speaker 1: a shortcut method. While many of all educated medical profession idle,
Speaker 1: the above nave has all he can do. Six years ago,
Speaker 1: he commits business in the Ryan Block in three rooms.
Speaker 1: He has certainly profited by the ignorance of his victims
Speaker 1: for his business has increased so that he now uses
Speaker 1: forty two rooms, which are finally furnished. He did by
Speaker 1: steam and lighted by forty electric lights. His laundry work
Speaker 1: and cooking are done by electricity, and the no on
Speaker 1: ones say that his tears are also made by it.
Speaker 1: He exerts a wonderful magnetic power over his patients, making
Speaker 1: many of them believe that they are will So Palmer
Speaker 1: is doing great. Well, even this guy isn't he's not
Speaker 1: a great writer because he first of all, he calls
Speaker 1: him doctor and then he calls him a crank in
Speaker 1: the same sentence. Well you got then he uses he
Speaker 1: says he has a magnetic power over the people, just
Speaker 1: like you're trying to debunk the magnet thing, but you're
Speaker 1: also saying like he does have a power. So dummies
Speaker 1: are like, well you said he had a power. I'd
Speaker 1: be willing to bet some people did make that mistake.
Speaker 1: Since it's the late eighteen hundreds, I'll give him a
Speaker 1: little bit of credit on the calling him a doctor thing,
Speaker 1: because pretty much everyone's a doctor or a colonel in
Speaker 1: the late eighteen Like you can't you can't like it
Speaker 1: didn't mean the same thing it does. Now, there weren't
Speaker 1: like licensing requirements in a lot of the country, so
Speaker 1: I get calling him a doctor like it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where and this is the trouble about writing
Speaker 1: about medical crank in the late eighteen hundreds, where it's
Speaker 1: like it's hard to call someone a fake doctor because
Speaker 1: even the real doctors are, like, the problem is not
Speaker 1: that he needs magnets. The problems the guy that's got
Speaker 1: too much blood and he needs some heroin. He needs
Speaker 1: some heroin and less blood. Yeah, you're exactly right. Well
Speaker 1: that's how I call all my friends. Reverend Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, it's pretty easy. I can't wait to get
Speaker 1: that reverend doctor course with you, Billy. I'm excited. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have an audition tomorrow for the commercial feeds. So
Speaker 1: many bleached to so many poor people. I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: commercial tomorrow. We're going down there, We're going down So.
Speaker 1: Dr Palmer's time using magnets to cure people would later
Speaker 1: prove to be critical to his career in inventing chiropractic medicine.
Speaker 1: He wrote later in his autobiography quote, during this period,
Speaker 1: much of that which was necessary to complete the science
Speaker 1: was worked out. I discovered that many diseases were associated
Speaker 1: with derangements of the stomach, kidneys, and other organs. One
Speaker 1: question was always uppermost in my mind in my search
Speaker 1: for the cause of the disease. I desired to know
Speaker 1: why one person was ailing and his associate eating at
Speaker 1: the same table, working in the same shop, at the
Speaker 1: same bench was not Why what difference was there in
Speaker 1: the two persons that caused one to have pneumonia, qatara,
Speaker 1: typhoid or rheumatism while his partner similarly situated escaped Why
Speaker 1: This question had worried thousands for centuries and was answered
Speaker 1: in September. Yeah, he found the answer on one day,
Speaker 1: on one day. You're curious about what I would write
Speaker 1: that down if you got the answer. Yeah, you might
Speaker 1: want to take notes on this part here. It's pretty
Speaker 1: important important. But what day was it? Actually? Oh, ships,
Speaker 1: I guess it's he's not lying. Oh wait, no, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: that was the date of something else. It was in
Speaker 1: September eight, though he's not lying. He's got the date
Speaker 1: down there something. So the story about how he figured
Speaker 1: out the cause of all human ailments and gave birth
Speaker 1: to chiropractic is the story of what happened on that
Speaker 1: September day in so Dr D. D. Palmer was working
Speaker 1: late in his office practicing mesmerism and trying to advance
Speaker 1: his understanding of channeling the electrical energy of the human
Speaker 1: body from magical purposes. And as he was leaving for
Speaker 1: the night after long day of this, how do you
Speaker 1: know you're done? Yeah? When did you reach the end
Speaker 1: of that? Figured as much as I can today? Well,
Speaker 1: people are still dying. I ain't figured it out. So
Speaker 1: as he was leaving for the night, he ran into
Speaker 1: the building's janitor, a man named Harvey Lillard. Now Mr
Speaker 1: Lillard was deaf, and once Dan Palmer realized that this
Speaker 1: guy was deaf, he decided that it was his duty
Speaker 1: to cure Mr. Lillard. But he's he is that guy,
Speaker 1: isn't he? How you doing? Oh? You deaf? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fix the that I found you. Now. There are a
Speaker 1: couple of versions of this story because it's a lie,
Speaker 1: the most because I remember how it happened, because this
Speaker 1: never happened. And we're gonna go into the most detailed
Speaker 1: version of the story. But first, you know, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: giving until it takes. Let's talk about Dr Palmer, So
Speaker 1: we're talking about the day in September eight when he
Speaker 1: discovered the solution to all human illnesses and ailments. He
Speaker 1: met his building's janitor and realized he was deaf and
Speaker 1: decided that he was going to cure him. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna read a version of the story of how he
Speaker 1: did this that I found in a September nine issue
Speaker 1: of the Herald Journal, a local paper for Spartanburg, South Carolina.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, they were covering like the opening of a
Speaker 1: chiropractic college. Okay, yeah, which wrote a pretty good synthesis
Speaker 1: of the different versions of the story that makes more sense. Yeah. Quote,
Speaker 1: the building's janitor, Harvey Lillard, was deaf and Palmer became
Speaker 1: curious about the cause. Stories are different on how Palmer
Speaker 1: was supposed to have discovered that by adjusting a bump
Speaker 1: on Lillard's neck, his deafness was cured. One story is
Speaker 1: that Lillard told Palmer he became deaf after bending over
Speaker 1: and hearing something crack in his neck, and that Palmer
Speaker 1: cured the deafness after pressing the bump on Lillard's neck
Speaker 1: for three consecutive days. Lillard's daughter, Miss Valdinia Simmons, tells
Speaker 1: that while Palmer was joking with her father one day,
Speaker 1: he slapped the man on the back with a book,
Speaker 1: causing the first chiropractic adjustment. Palmer's own writings the chiropractics
Speaker 1: adjuster give this account quote an examination showed a vertebrae
Speaker 1: rack from its normal position, a reason that if the
Speaker 1: vertebra was replaced, the man's hearing should be restored. He
Speaker 1: talked Lillard into allowing him to replace the vertebrae using
Speaker 1: the spinus process as a lever, and soon the man
Speaker 1: could hear as before. There was nothing crude about this adjustment,
Speaker 1: Palmer wrote, It was specific, so much so that no
Speaker 1: hiropractor has equalled it bullshit. Well, so, yeah, those are
Speaker 1: the three versions of the story. One is that he
Speaker 1: like finds a lump on this guy's neck and like
Speaker 1: slowly adjusted for three days until he's not deaf, and
Speaker 1: he gets him on the back with a book. Yeah
Speaker 1: as a joke. Hey. And another is is that he
Speaker 1: gave him a comprehensive examination and then snapped his vertebra
Speaker 1: brack in the place and then he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this vertebrate is connected to your hearing bone. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of noteworthy things about this. One is that,
Speaker 1: according to Palmer's own writings, the first chiropractic adjustment all
Speaker 1: of history was the very best, which is not the
Speaker 1: way a science is. I don't think that's um. That
Speaker 1: is how they guy invented dynamite the first The first
Speaker 1: dynamite was real good dynamite. Same with the first cocaine. Um.
Speaker 1: The other is that, if you take Palmer's version of
Speaker 1: the story, chiropractic medicine started with a non consensual medical procedure.
Speaker 1: Because while Palmer claimed to have had a conversation with
Speaker 1: this patient about what he wanted to do, the patient
Speaker 1: was deaf, and I don't think D. D. Palmer knew
Speaker 1: sign language. I don't even know if there were sign
Speaker 1: language round at that point. The eighteen. Was there sign
Speaker 1: language in Sophie. I'm sure there's a version. He doesn't
Speaker 1: write a damn thing about knowing sign language, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say either way, invented in Oh shit, alright. So
Speaker 1: he also seems like the kind of gather if he
Speaker 1: knew how to do something, he'd let you know. Yet
Speaker 1: the exact wording is he talked Willard into allowsing him
Speaker 1: to like replace the verden broke, which is like you
Speaker 1: lay on the ground and get behind you. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't think informed consent if this was an actual procedure,
Speaker 1: I do not think informed consent was a part of it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's easy to sneak up on something too that when
Speaker 1: they came, especially a deaf man, poppy fucking back, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Yeah, that's how you that's how you
Speaker 1: start a new medical discipline and pushing a deaf man
Speaker 1: from behind, you tackle the deaf guy until he can hear.
Speaker 1: That's what I did, and that's how I'm We all
Speaker 1: remember how Jonah Salt killed polio by abducting those kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's part of Jonah Salt's back story. Don't look it up,
Speaker 1: don't do not do not look at aricism. So once D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer had stumbled onto this new method of healing, he
Speaker 1: began to work backwards, constructing a brand new theory of
Speaker 1: how to cure human illness. He started claiming that his
Speaker 1: research had let him to discover that every human body
Speaker 1: was filled with enough natural healing power to cure any
Speaker 1: ailment afflicting it. Any illness or sickness affecting a single organ, limb,
Speaker 1: or region of the body then was caused by a
Speaker 1: blockage that stopped this healing energy from reaching its proper destination.
Speaker 1: Spinal misalignment was the cause of almost all such blockages,
Speaker 1: all of them. The rest of it has not I mean,
Speaker 1: I think clearly there was an exceptions, like, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're shot or something, that's probably not due to a
Speaker 1: spinal misalignment. You just got shot, but cancer, you got
Speaker 1: allergies yet, emphysema, you're blind, you're deaf, that's your fucking spine.
Speaker 1: Bro Oh yeah that makes sense. Yeah, it's all in
Speaker 1: the spine sickness. That is so. In his work with Lillard,
Speaker 1: Palmer claimed to have discovered that adjusting the spine properly
Speaker 1: could fix any health ailment. Thus was the new medical
Speaker 1: Science of Chiropractic Adjustment. Born on September that's the day. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's for a little disordered on this. Over the coming years, D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer began teaching his techniques to students around the country.
Speaker 1: He established the Palmer College of Chiropractic in eighteen ninety
Speaker 1: seven out of Davenport, Iowa. The school's original name was
Speaker 1: Palmer's School and Cure, but that name was later changed
Speaker 1: because it sounds like a scam. Yeah yeah, yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: people know your scams a scam. Yeah, you got to
Speaker 1: change the name called a fucking college. Yeah soon, hundreds
Speaker 1: upon hundreds still haven't figured out that that's this, No,
Speaker 1: because this college is still in operation, well in any
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, speaking in which my back's hurting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got an appointment with my chiropractor. He might here
Speaker 1: him deafness too. It's what it is. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: just releasing tension. Yes, some of some chiropractors are good
Speaker 1: at massage. We'll get into that a little later. We'll
Speaker 1: get into the research later. Let's get ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 1: He sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, thank you for apologizing.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, But really, this machette is all the apology
Speaker 1: you ever need to give me. That's so if he
Speaker 1: can I hit the fabris. Yet she's saying no, we
Speaker 1: should probably wait until the end anyway, because it might
Speaker 1: be a really bad idea. What's the scent? The scent
Speaker 1: on the fabris is gain. This is a great smell
Speaker 1: and detergent. It eliminates tough lingering owners. It might be
Speaker 1: good in the poison room. It might clear the poison
Speaker 1: out of the poison room, might be a neutral room.
Speaker 1: Sophie looks convinced Billy Wayne's jacas their type. I think
Speaker 1: that's what we want to do, unlike a poison room.
Speaker 1: Soon hundreds upon hundreds of chiropractors were applying their trade
Speaker 1: from C to shining C. Now I wanted to provide
Speaker 1: everybody with a deep understanding of what kinds of things exactly. D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer was claiming that chiropractic adjustment could do as he
Speaker 1: refined his new science. So I found the blog of
Speaker 1: a popular chiropractic motivational speaker, Doctor Ward. Now, dr Ward
Speaker 1: seems to be a grifter, even within this field of grifters,
Speaker 1: Like this is a current guy. Yeah, he's a current guy.
Speaker 1: He's a motivational speaker who I think motivates chiropractors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what need? Yeah, that's a meta grift right there, Baby,
Speaker 1: I love that ship I found my mark. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: So he compiled a list of ten things the founder
Speaker 1: said about chiropractic medicine. Now, all of these ten things
Speaker 1: are direct quotes from various works published by D. D. Palmer.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read that whole list now, Billy, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah. Let me know when you got questions.
Speaker 1: Quote number one. The basic principle and the principles of
Speaker 1: chiropractic which have been developed from it are not new.
Speaker 1: They were as old as the vertebra. I am not
Speaker 1: the first person to replace subluxated vertebra, for this art
Speaker 1: has been practiced for thousands of years. Art art. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I keep calling it a science because I don't
Speaker 1: know what else to call it, or like a branch
Speaker 1: of medicine. He seems to refer to it more as
Speaker 1: an art here, So maybe that's a mistake in my
Speaker 1: write up of it. I think modern chiropractors try to
Speaker 1: make it seem like a science. Would Yeah, it's it's better, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. Nobody's like I'm hurting real bad. Take me
Speaker 1: to the artist, Yes, exactly, Yeah, where's banks? Yours? Banks?
Speaker 1: He could fix this ship. Number two, do not forget
Speaker 1: that chiropractors did not treat diseases. They had just causes,
Speaker 1: whether acquired, spontaneous or the result of accident. I mean,
Speaker 1: yeah that I think that's the root of all diseases,
Speaker 1: finding the cause. But it's the same. It's actually the
Speaker 1: same justification. If you remember from the bleached drink guy
Speaker 1: who was like, oh this won't uh that doesn't cure anything.
Speaker 1: It just fixes the causes of the sickness, which is okay,
Speaker 1: m m. Yeah. Drugs are delusive. They do not adjust anything.
Speaker 1: Which are you're taking the wrong fucking drugs, buddy. I
Speaker 1: get adjusted all the damn but the ones I've taken
Speaker 1: adjusted some stuff that I don't have to take those
Speaker 1: drugs anymore. I was just in Mexico, where if you
Speaker 1: learn five or six at the right words, you can
Speaker 1: get almost anything out of a drug store, and I
Speaker 1: got some shit adjusted. Did it adjust itself back? Oh
Speaker 1: not yet? Uh yeah. Pro tip for going to Mexico
Speaker 1: learn how to say, uh, my friend's dog is sick.
Speaker 1: I need ketamine. Great sentence, and they're like, and they
Speaker 1: just smile when you say that. Right, Well, it depends, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it depends. Sometimes you gotta go to a couple of
Speaker 1: pharmacies all insane. You don't have a dog. The philosophy
Speaker 1: of chiropractic is founded upon the knowledge of the manner
Speaker 1: in which a vital functions are performed by innate in
Speaker 1: health and disease. When controlling intelligence is able to transmit
Speaker 1: mental impulses to all parts of the body, free and unobstructed,
Speaker 1: we have normal action, which is health. You want to
Speaker 1: diagram that fucking said, like, look at that, Look at
Speaker 1: it's number four. Look at that fucking sentence to me
Speaker 1: and tell me that's not written by a fucking idiot,
Speaker 1: and what cannot reread it? The philosophy the philosophy of
Speaker 1: chiropractic is founded upon the knowledge of the manner in
Speaker 1: which a vital functions are performed by a night In
Speaker 1: health and disease, When the controlling intelligence is able to
Speaker 1: transmit mental impulses to all parts of the body, free
Speaker 1: and unobstructed, we have normal action, which is health. I
Speaker 1: think that that's how Trump would just say. I think
Speaker 1: that's how he thinks he sounds when he talks. It's
Speaker 1: someone with like an open head who's also eloquent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I love the idea that normal action is health,
Speaker 1: which I'm going to I actually just sent a bunch
Speaker 1: of emails out to my friends with multiple sclerosis and
Speaker 1: like major depressive disorders. Good news. The normal action of
Speaker 1: your body as health. So you're healthy. Yeah, you're healthy.
Speaker 1: Just you just gotta get your spine adjusted. That's why
Speaker 1: that autoimmune disease is fucking with your organs. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you're not at your back, you're not walking. You gotta
Speaker 1: pop that ship. Yeah, have you cracked your back? Chiropractors
Speaker 1: correct abnormalities of the intellect as well as those of
Speaker 1: the body. He was real focused on the idea that
Speaker 1: they called them imbeciles, which is like what we call
Speaker 1: mentally handicapped, what we used to call I don't know
Speaker 1: what the exactly like terms people use now, but like
Speaker 1: people who had mental disorders, they just called imbeciles. And
Speaker 1: so he wrote a lot about how, oh no, if
Speaker 1: your kids an imbecile, you just gotta pop his back.
Speaker 1: Like that's the problem with babies when they're not thinking, right,
Speaker 1: is you gotta pop their backs. I'm gonna get back
Speaker 1: onto that a little. They're going to go back to babies.
Speaker 1: Why do they always go to babies? There's if you
Speaker 1: if you want to practice medicine with no education or
Speaker 1: ability to do so, eventually you're gonna start doing it
Speaker 1: to babies because that's where that babies don't Babies can't
Speaker 1: tell you if it's not working. Fuck. You can pour
Speaker 1: bleach up a baby all day long, and adults eventually
Speaker 1: going to be like, you know what, I think I've
Speaker 1: had enough fucking bleach yea, And the baby is just
Speaker 1: babies are just gonna take that bleach all day long.
Speaker 1: You can bleach a baby from here to Kingdom. Come.
Speaker 1: It's so messed up, m so messed up to look
Speaker 1: at a baby and not want to take care of it. Yea.
Speaker 1: It's part of me thinks maybe these people think they're
Speaker 1: taking care. Some of them do. Some of them are
Speaker 1: just narcissists. There's few ego where I want to say
Speaker 1: the baby, and then there's other ones whore like well.
Speaker 1: I think more than anything, we hope that they're humans
Speaker 1: in there, and it's a little like I I don't
Speaker 1: want to judge. I think I don't know. If I
Speaker 1: honestly don't know, I DDE. Palmer is a good guy
Speaker 1: or a bad guy. I think he's probably a piece
Speaker 1: of ship. Um. I think he's probably a scammer. Medicine
Speaker 1: was primitive enough in this period where like, you can't
Speaker 1: totally blame someone for thinking crazy shit, but the ambition
Speaker 1: he has makes him like to keep going the way
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, and it'll get crazier here. But let's
Speaker 1: finish our little Many patients imagine that they have tried everything. True,
Speaker 1: they have used many remedies, but they have never had
Speaker 1: the cause of their infirmity adjusted, which is again, this
Speaker 1: is one of the key aspects of chiropractics that like,
Speaker 1: if you just get treated for your AIDS, that's not
Speaker 1: going to deal with it. You gotta pop them fucking
Speaker 1: vertebrate that's the cause or whatever aids in my vertebra. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get your fucking smallpox starts in the vertebra. Man.
Speaker 1: Life is but an express the expression of spirit through matter.
Speaker 1: To make life manifest requires the union of spirit and body. Wow. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so we're into there. We can sell this in out.
Speaker 1: This is I mean, you chiropractice and I was gonna say, yes,
Speaker 1: that's they're already here. So he's saying it's quite a
Speaker 1: fucking chiropractic is founded upon different principles than those of medicine, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: I laid the foundation and built there on. Say that again,
Speaker 1: of chiropractic, he called it a science. Okay, yeah, there
Speaker 1: we go. So, uh, if you're wondering what Palmer meant
Speaker 1: when he said that chiropractic was founded on different principles
Speaker 1: in medicine, well, for one thing, he meant ghosts. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time for some fucking ghost spill away. Yeah, ghost
Speaker 1: to ghost and play. Now I'm already, I'm already. He's
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Speaker 1: we're back in. Sophie and Billy Wayne are just talking
Speaker 1: about the fact that, uh, as Sophie noted, this is
Speaker 1: the first time we've talked about ghosts in a year
Speaker 1: and a half of the show. Be a year and
Speaker 1: a half, I think it's been closing in on a
Speaker 1: year and a half, and you think that more of
Speaker 1: these bastards would believe it goes, Yeah, you think at
Speaker 1: least more of them maybe, you know, it's also a
Speaker 1: lot of it's kind of the bastards I've selected. Maybe
Speaker 1: I just haven't picked as many ghosts based drifters. That's true.
Speaker 1: They've got to be there. I think they're probably. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of visions come from ghosts, a lot
Speaker 1: of visions. And that's the story we're about to talk about.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't see ghosts coming, and I don't ever
Speaker 1: see ghosts coming. Well, you do sometimes if you're looking,
Speaker 1: if you got the site, if you're but like the
Speaker 1: seventy five days, yeah, it's about right. That's in the ball.
Speaker 1: But like the putting the spirit with medicine and popping
Speaker 1: your back, I do like that theory, which is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could probably like you said, it's a label ship.
Speaker 1: It's like, your energy is a lot. I gotta get
Speaker 1: your spirit aligned with your body, bra and your chakras.
Speaker 1: Your chakra has got to be straight, bra. Well, it's
Speaker 1: like I practice could only in yoga, and not as
Speaker 1: much as I used to, But I do like it.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of breathing is what it is, and
Speaker 1: it's great. Oh, it's very important. Well, and then I've
Speaker 1: learned since practicing it. Like a lot of cult leaders
Speaker 1: have used it because it it's mind altering. Yes, it is,
Speaker 1: because of all the oxygen and stuff. So people think
Speaker 1: that these people have powers and they're like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: such a funny thing to do. Yeah, whenever somebody makes
Speaker 1: you feel something like that, maybe try having that experience
Speaker 1: without them around. Yes, test if their magic's first, exactly,
Speaker 1: test it, test it. Yeah. It's like if you have
Speaker 1: a really good you just meet somebody right for the
Speaker 1: first time, and like the first time y'all hang out romantically,
Speaker 1: you take m dm A together. Maybe go take ecstasy
Speaker 1: with somebody you hate and see help profound that experiences
Speaker 1: before you decide that you're actually in love with that person.
Speaker 1: Just ye really, just don't take ecstasy with someone until
Speaker 1: you've been dating from one six months. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: in a fight. That's how you have That's how it
Speaker 1: was invented. Yeah, was through psychologist psychiatrist. Well, that's that's
Speaker 1: that was the first use it took. It was kind
Speaker 1: of think it was invented by accident by something. That's
Speaker 1: what I means making ship like that's when they started
Speaker 1: applying it to ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah it was
Speaker 1: and it did work for a while. It's great. I
Speaker 1: feel great, it's great. You know what you still suck? Now, Man,
Speaker 1: I don't like that thing you do. If therapists all
Speaker 1: over the country could just prescribe him being made to people,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't need fucking chiropractors. I'll tell you that in
Speaker 1: diplo would be way more popular, would be huge. Okay,
Speaker 1: so um yeah, let's talk about how ghosts helped invent
Speaker 1: chiropractic medicine. That's what I thought. That's why I came
Speaker 1: here to one ghost, just one, just one ghost. I
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want to make it sound silly
Speaker 1: by pretending that there's just like a bunch of ghosts
Speaker 1: inventing chiropractic. There's a single ghost that invented chiropractic. He's like,
Speaker 1: don't maybe he sound like a dick. And it's the
Speaker 1: ghost of a dead doctor. Fuck yeah, I mean that
Speaker 1: means it's it's it's just that means it's credible. They
Speaker 1: just they put it in fifth. A dead doctor wouldn't lie. No,
Speaker 1: not a dead doctor that stuck around to pass this
Speaker 1: information along. Yeah, he'd been dead more than fifty years. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a mission. So this doctor dead doctor, doctor Jim
Speaker 1: Atkinson apparently came to D. D. Palmer during a seance. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's where he claims he learned most of the
Speaker 1: rules of chiropractic medicine. Yeah, I'm gonna read an excerpt
Speaker 1: from his autobiography, which was published after his death in
Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen. I want to interrupt you real quick. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you would have if I was on like one
Speaker 1: of these shows where it was like you've never heard
Speaker 1: of this story, right, aversion and of how you think
Speaker 1: chiropractor was invented? Yeah, and I'm a comedian, so I
Speaker 1: would come up with something stupid and outrageous. I would
Speaker 1: never would never say ghosts. Never could that pop in
Speaker 1: my head. No, this was one of those ones like
Speaker 1: I started looking into this and like it was already
Speaker 1: pretty baddy, like yeah, and then like fucking ghosts. It's
Speaker 1: that's like I can't. It's like it's like with Trump
Speaker 1: where you're like, we'll be funny about it. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't be funnier than ghost invented medicine where you
Speaker 1: pop your back. Fuck. Yeah, I'm just gonna listen. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna listen. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna read that
Speaker 1: from his autobiography, quote the knowledge and philosophy given to
Speaker 1: me by Dr Jim Atkinson, who had again been dead
Speaker 1: by fifty years, an intelligent spiritual being, together with explanations
Speaker 1: of phenomena, principles resolved from causes, affects, powers, laws, and utility,
Speaker 1: appeal to my reason. The method by which I obtained
Speaker 1: an explanation of certain physical phenomena from an intelligence in
Speaker 1: the spiritual world is no an in biblical language as
Speaker 1: inspiration and a great measure. The Chiropractor's Adjuster was written
Speaker 1: under such spiritual promptings. That's the book that was like
Speaker 1: the foundational text of chiropractic appealed to my reason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: appealed to my reason by talking to me as a
Speaker 1: ghost during a silence my reason. That ghost was pretty
Speaker 1: fool as shit. I don't think I've ever heard somebody say, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a ghost told me to do something, But that ghost
Speaker 1: was a fucking liar. I mean, it was like, come
Speaker 1: back with actual reasons. Ghosts and then I'll listen to you.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to see that movie where like
Speaker 1: a ghost starts trying to like warn somebody about like
Speaker 1: the future, or like just like like starts trying to
Speaker 1: lift but he's just dumb as ship. Like, it's just
Speaker 1: the ghost of a really dumb person. Nightwears. He's got
Speaker 1: a great joke. People gotta drink more bleach. He's like,
Speaker 1: if I went back in time, I couldn't warn people
Speaker 1: or even explain how future is. Like, well, look at
Speaker 1: this phone. They're like, wow, how's it working. It's like ship,
Speaker 1: this is pretty cool? All right. It's like I would
Speaker 1: just be a guy with cool stuff. I know what
Speaker 1: I do. I'd go back to like nineteen ten, and
Speaker 1: I'd moved to Europe, and I'd create a cult all
Speaker 1: about assassinating Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Oh, because then he'd never die. No,
Speaker 1: he would not know, he would not have died, and
Speaker 1: then maybe we could have stopped World War One and
Speaker 1: that would have prevented World War two. Probably, no, Hitler, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've thought this. That trip to Mexico was worth it.
Speaker 1: It was I figured out how to save the world.
Speaker 1: I'm just got a crowdfund time machine now, and I
Speaker 1: think in order to make that time machine, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need to spend a lot more time researching. In Mexican pharmacy,
Speaker 1: I think one of mall in pharmacy you can pick
Speaker 1: up hydrocoda on their ghost doctor told me that. Yep. So,
Speaker 1: the founder of chiropractic medicine claimed that a great deal
Speaker 1: of the discipline was revealed to him by the ghost
Speaker 1: of a long dead doctor he contacted during a seance.
Speaker 1: That's the quick summary here. Now, the term chiropractic itself
Speaker 1: literally means done by hand. Since the whole idea behind
Speaker 1: the discipline had come from an all knowing ghost, there
Speaker 1: was no research or study. Indeed, Palmer's early chiropractic medicine.
Speaker 1: Once he'd identified the cause of all human ailments, the
Speaker 1: subluxated bones, there was nothing else to do but teach
Speaker 1: people how to pop those bones back into place. Someone
Speaker 1: go chiropractically an orgasm that you actually can do. No,
Speaker 1: I've done it, I don't know. So I should note
Speaker 1: here that subluxation, which is a term that you'll hear
Speaker 1: a lot from chiropractice today, is in fact a real thing.
Speaker 1: The actual medical meaning of the term is uh. It's
Speaker 1: basically term from what a joint in your body has
Speaker 1: popped partly out of its socket, and this can damage
Speaker 1: tissues around the socket, but it cannot, for example, cause deafness.
Speaker 1: But chiropractice to this day claim they can fix and
Speaker 1: feel vertebral subluxations by hand, and that these subluxations cause
Speaker 1: roughly of the ailments suffered by people, depends on the
Speaker 1: chiropractic There's different kinds now, some of which reject a
Speaker 1: lot of this um, but like, yeah, that's the initial
Speaker 1: idea behind the science, is that like like or so
Speaker 1: percent of human ailments are caused by sublixations which you
Speaker 1: can just fix by feeling round. I think we would
Speaker 1: have figured that out. Yeah, Yeah, it's not that hard.
Speaker 1: As chiropractic medicine and its founder aged it shifted and morphed.
Speaker 1: This was helped along by D. D. Palmer's son B. J. Palmer,
Speaker 1: who got involved in his father's work near the beginning
Speaker 1: of the movement. Like his dad, b J had worked
Speaker 1: as a mesmerist before getting into back medicine like my
Speaker 1: father and am also full of ship. He'd also worked
Speaker 1: for the circus. Yeah, he's an accomplished, accomplished it's a
Speaker 1: whole family alive did the work. According to Science Based
Speaker 1: Medicine quote. He was reported to state, when I saw
Speaker 1: there was no use for a sympathetic nervous system, I
Speaker 1: threw it out and then just had to put something
Speaker 1: better in its place. So I discovered direct mental impulse.
Speaker 1: BJ also discovered a non existent duct of Palmer connecting
Speaker 1: the spleen to the stomach. In ven b J engineered
Speaker 1: a hostile take over his father's school to hiropractic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Different people will say that, like it was more amiable
Speaker 1: or that it was more ugly. Some people say he
Speaker 1: paid him two thousand dollars. Some people say he's stiffed
Speaker 1: him out of all the money. It's kind of unclear
Speaker 1: what happened. So usually then that means it's not what.
Speaker 1: It wasn't good. It wasn't good. It was very acrimonious.
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't get along. Yeah. B J. Palmer
Speaker 1: set the tone that would later dominate the field of chiropractic.
Speaker 1: He emphasized salesmanship, advertising, and practice building. He was highly
Speaker 1: critical of medicine, stating that m D stands for more death.
Speaker 1: He continuously sought new methods for increasing revenues, such as
Speaker 1: is neurocalcometer, which would pinpoint subluxations by measuring skin temperature,
Speaker 1: and he decreed that must be rented from him by
Speaker 1: other practitioners at exorbitant fees. Why is he so against
Speaker 1: any actual medicine because it works? You can't keep bringing
Speaker 1: people in for the same problem if they're doing stuff
Speaker 1: that helps. I I see so. But to me, like
Speaker 1: even the scam would be like a smarter scam would
Speaker 1: be like you're applying both. Yeah, I think that's what
Speaker 1: they do now that that is what they do now
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Um. It's also part of the
Speaker 1: problem is that, like a real honest doctor, sometimes they're
Speaker 1: just gonna tell you you can't do anything. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got this problem and it sucks, and it's always gonna suck.
Speaker 1: Like maybe you're some mitigated but there's no cure in it.
Speaker 1: Like why am I sore every day night because you're
Speaker 1: been alive for forty Yeah, you've been alive too long. Man.
Speaker 1: Nobody's supposed to live more. Supposed to have your kid
Speaker 1: at nineteen and push him off into the world at two.
Speaker 1: I had one at twenty eight and then we just
Speaker 1: had one. But I do, I do think you should
Speaker 1: to a uh so um. Under B J. Palmer's reign,
Speaker 1: chiropractic expanded, growing ever larger and sucking in ever more
Speaker 1: ambitious young doctors who felt the jabbing around someone's back
Speaker 1: was a hell of a lot easier than going to
Speaker 1: actual medical school. You have to remember a lot, You
Speaker 1: have to learn a long stuff, blood and ship. They
Speaker 1: want you to know it and not just remember it too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they want you to actually know things, not just make up. Yep.
Speaker 1: It feels like that's the cancer part of the back
Speaker 1: that needs fixing. Pop, you're done. That's what you get.
Speaker 1: You just get get good at making that sound. D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer continued to act as a figurehead of the movement,
Speaker 1: and his writings remained influential, but b J ran the
Speaker 1: show from around nineteen o seven on forward. Now. From
Speaker 1: the beginning of the movement, chiropractors called themselves doctors, and
Speaker 1: in the eighteen nineties this was not much of an
Speaker 1: issue because the difference between doctors and doctors was pretty minimal.
Speaker 1: In fact, since many legitimate licensed m d s back
Speaker 1: then fed their patients mercury and heroin, cough syrup. Many
Speaker 1: people would have been better off in the hands of
Speaker 1: a guy who was just going to give them a
Speaker 1: back massage. But this state of affairs did not persist.
Speaker 1: Along in the early part of the twentieth century, medicine
Speaker 1: began to professionalize quickly, spurred on by developments of things
Speaker 1: like vaccines and antibiotics. They clearly worked much better than
Speaker 1: just pushing on somebody's vertebrae, as you might have expected. D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer railed against many of these developments. He became an
Speaker 1: early anti vaccine advocate, writing that quote, it is the
Speaker 1: very height of absurdity to strive to protect any person
Speaker 1: from smallpox or any other malady by inoculating them with
Speaker 1: a filthy animal poison. No one will ever pollute the
Speaker 1: blood of any member of my family unless he cares
Speaker 1: to walk over my dead body to perform such an operation.
Speaker 1: And we had to, yeah, and we had to. Thankfully
Speaker 1: the smallpox got him. His son B. J. Added in
Speaker 1: nineteen o nine, chira practice have found in every disease
Speaker 1: that is supposed to be contagious a cause in the spine,
Speaker 1: and the spinal column will find a subluxation that corresponds
Speaker 1: to every type of disease. If we had one cases
Speaker 1: of smallpox, I can prove to you aware and one
Speaker 1: you will find a subluxation, and you will find the
Speaker 1: same condition in the other ninety nine. I just want
Speaker 1: to return his functions to normal, and you could do
Speaker 1: the same with the other ninety nine. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: it is this, it's that scam from where there's like
Speaker 1: a kernel of truth, where there's like the central nervous
Speaker 1: system is throughout the spine, so there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1: You can alleviate certain types of pain because the slip
Speaker 1: disc and things like that. You could let people feel
Speaker 1: better diseased. Ship is not it doesn't go no, No,
Speaker 1: smallpox starts in the spine. I'm not even a doctor.
Speaker 1: But it's just like knowing it you don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it's so important. Yeah, but if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a great grifter, the key is that you just pretend
Speaker 1: you know everything you don't know, and you don't listen
Speaker 1: to anyone who says otherwise. It seems fun. It does
Speaker 1: seem fun, does it seems if you didn't love anyone,
Speaker 1: if you were either incapable of that or just like
Speaker 1: had got no point in your life where you're like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, Like if you ever see me hawk and
Speaker 1: brain pills. Yeah, that's what's happened is I've just given
Speaker 1: up on my fellow man and have decided to cash in.
Speaker 1: And I am proud to announce my new job as
Speaker 1: a columnist for the Daily Wire and I will have it.
Speaker 1: So if you threw a pin at me ever expanding
Speaker 1: church somewhere in the South, oh man selling bleach magnets,
Speaker 1: just backrubs in Jesus. Yeah, you gotta say all that
Speaker 1: really is the king of all grifts. It well what
Speaker 1: you described when it hit me when you said the
Speaker 1: son came in and moved out to the father's Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing that happened. And learned how to
Speaker 1: produced television in college and then was dad and he
Speaker 1: was like, Dad, move, you're too old. I got this
Speaker 1: and he's good at it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Can't fall the guy on his grifting. He's exceptional. He
Speaker 1: is my favorit. If you don't know about Joel Alstein,
Speaker 1: he's the guy who had tens of thousands of square
Speaker 1: foot of immaculate space in the city of Houston when
Speaker 1: a huge chunk of that city flooded and many people
Speaker 1: were made refugees, and he made none of it open.
Speaker 1: They just got a new carpet. They just they had
Speaker 1: just gotten. You don't want people on that carpet. And
Speaker 1: about people a church, like a big church, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the arena where the Houston Rockets used to play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that s where I think Jesus would have done the
Speaker 1: same thing. That's yeah. We all remember in the Bible
Speaker 1: when he came upon some poor person with dirty feet
Speaker 1: and was like, I'm not gonna wash your feet there,
Speaker 1: gross as hell, And I got new carpet. I just
Speaker 1: thanks is new, Yeah, and I won't have to get
Speaker 1: classic Jesus prosperity really hated dirty people from Jesus. Final
Speaker 1: one thing about Jesus, it's he did not like refugees.
Speaker 1: He's like, it looks like my dad wanted you to
Speaker 1: be poor. So the sermon on the mount that fuck
Speaker 1: you got mine. So as medicine grew more professional, more
Speaker 1: and more states began passing laws that created stricter requirements
Speaker 1: for licensure as a medical doctor. B J fought against
Speaker 1: these requirements politically wherever he could, but his father picked
Speaker 1: a different tactic for protecting chiropracty from government meddling. He
Speaker 1: started pushing the claim that, rather than medical science, chiropractic
Speaker 1: was a religion and thus utterly immune from any state oversight.
Speaker 1: He's not dumb, He's not dumb. No, he's not done.
Speaker 1: That's a solid play. God. Yeah, I didn't realize it
Speaker 1: had started as a religion, ghost religion. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not even mad at him. It's damn Yeah. You
Speaker 1: gotta respect a guy. You can zig and zag like,
Speaker 1: that's mean. He has hurt and he's probably promised. He's
Speaker 1: hurting a lot of people. Yeah, and I was going
Speaker 1: to say, he's not really just popping their back, but
Speaker 1: he's giving people a false hope. That Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: damn it an zag zagging the tip of the hat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The earliest evidence we have of the shift towards treating
Speaker 1: chiropractic as a religion is a letter that D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer wrote to a colleague, P. W. Johnson in April
Speaker 1: of nineteen eleven. I should note before reading this so
Speaker 1: it makes sense that D. D. Palmer frequently referred to
Speaker 1: himself and his writings as old Dad. So when you
Speaker 1: hear Old Dad, he's writing about him. O. L. D.
Speaker 1: Weird Old Dad. Well, he's from the north. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: yours of April at hand. It contains an interesting and
Speaker 1: financial question, one which I think Old Dad hold the
Speaker 1: key of Stop right now and read two sections in
Speaker 1: the this enclosed circular on pages two and eight, marked
Speaker 1: and see if you cannot grasp the way out that
Speaker 1: which I see we are coming to. I want you
Speaker 1: to study these two items marked. The same ideas are
Speaker 1: in my book, although not put out quite so plain
Speaker 1: as found in these two sections. I occupy in chiropractic
Speaker 1: a similar position as did Miss Eddie and Christian science.
Speaker 1: Miss Eddie claimed to receive her ideas from the other world,
Speaker 1: and so do I. She founded there on a religion,
Speaker 1: and so may I. I am, all caps the only
Speaker 1: one in chiropractic who can do so. Ye. Old Dad
Speaker 1: always has something new to give to his followers. I
Speaker 1: have much written for another edition when this one is sold.
Speaker 1: It is all caps strange to me why every chiropractor
Speaker 1: does not want a copy of my book. Now, when
Speaker 1: you refirst to miss Eddie, he's talking about Mary Eddie Baker,
Speaker 1: the founder of Christian Science, which is another religion that
Speaker 1: focuses around spiritual healing and refusal to accept basic medical help.
Speaker 1: So Dannie Palmer saying like, I'm just gonna do what
Speaker 1: that lady did, and it's like it's really transparent the
Speaker 1: way he writes it out too. Like he even says
Speaker 1: she claimed to receive her ideas from the other world.
Speaker 1: I claim that too. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna claim that
Speaker 1: I have that claimed it as well. Also the idea
Speaker 1: that he's going to publish the new edition of the
Speaker 1: book making these claims when the last edition of his
Speaker 1: book on chiropractics sold out. But smart, Yeah, he's old
Speaker 1: dad is of folksy. That's a smart All these dudes
Speaker 1: are just brilliant marketers. Yeah. They call him Papa Cairo
Speaker 1: sometimes too from Egypt. Ye. So if you like that one.
Speaker 1: Um d D would go on to write in this
Speaker 1: letter that rather than pushing for laws to specifically established
Speaker 1: chiropractic medicine as a legitimate branch of medicine, chiropractors to
Speaker 1: just seek exemption from any laws based on the fact
Speaker 1: that chiropractic is a religion quote exemption clauses instead of
Speaker 1: chiro laws by all means, and let that exemption be
Speaker 1: the right to practice our religion. That's all caps. But
Speaker 1: we must have a religious head, one who was the founder,
Speaker 1: as did Christ Mohammed, Joseph Smith and Miss Eddie Martin
Speaker 1: Luther and other who have founded religions. I am the
Speaker 1: fountain head. I am the founder of chiropractic and its
Speaker 1: science and its art, in its philosophy, and in its
Speaker 1: religious phase. Now, if chiropractors desire to claim me as
Speaker 1: their head, their leader, the way is clear. My writings
Speaker 1: have been gradually steering in that direction until now it
Speaker 1: is time to assume that we have the same right
Speaker 1: too as Christian scientists. I am the prophet. I am
Speaker 1: the prophet. I'm like Mohammed, but with popping backs, and
Speaker 1: I'm here to save the world. That's his Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: really what he's going for. I'm with you, head injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might have a factor. Although he's really pretty cunning
Speaker 1: about this. I kind of think that that letter proves
Speaker 1: that he actually was seeing this pretty clear headed. Will
Speaker 1: that move to be like this is a religion, that's
Speaker 1: a religion. Medicines turning into a real thing. Now, religion yeah,
Speaker 1: where his kids whisper. You know when we always saw
Speaker 1: like like he made a scientology pivot like a century,
Speaker 1: well not a century, but like seventy years before Scientology did.
Speaker 1: But he recognized that real quick, very quickly, that like
Speaker 1: this is the future for American grifting. It's just calling
Speaker 1: whatever crime you committed religion. So it's fine. Well, I
Speaker 1: think they've been doing that since the start. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: in a different way I think, or not at the level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not not not quite like this. It's the ambition that
Speaker 1: sets you apart. Yeah, it's the ambition that sets you apart. Now.
Speaker 1: I found this note hosted on Cairo dot org, which
Speaker 1: builds itself as a chiropractic research organization. They should key
Speaker 1: you went on the fact that modern day chiropractors do
Speaker 1: not exactly wholeheartedly reject the idea that their discipline, which
Speaker 1: is usually just built as another medical specialization, is actually
Speaker 1: a religion. In order to make this case authoritatively and
Speaker 1: establish a bright future for chiropractic with himself as spine
Speaker 1: cracking Jesus did, Palmer began to work on a book
Speaker 1: he believed would be his masterpiece, The Chiropractor. He finished
Speaker 1: this work but before he could edit and publish it,
Speaker 1: he died, possibly because his son murdered him with a car.
Speaker 1: We don't actually know, yeah, yeah, the truth he remains
Speaker 1: heavily debated to this day. What is beyond debating is
Speaker 1: that d D and b J had not gotten along
Speaker 1: for years. The father never forgave this on for carrying
Speaker 1: out a hostile takeover of his chiropractic college. The son
Speaker 1: seems to have been a dick and maybe a sociopath
Speaker 1: who was disliked by basically everybody. The b J murdered
Speaker 1: his dad. Side of the story starts with the annual
Speaker 1: parade of the Universal Chiropractors Association, held on August. We
Speaker 1: know that after the parade, d D. Palmer rapidly sickened
Speaker 1: and eventually died. Three different witnesses swore affidavit's that d
Speaker 1: D's illness was caused by his son striking him with
Speaker 1: a car. Probably knocked his back into lack given cancer.
Speaker 1: That would give you cancer. Yeah. One witness wrote this
Speaker 1: in a court affidavit. I saw Mr b J. Palmer
Speaker 1: coming down the street in his automobile, hitting him d
Speaker 1: D and continuing to shove him towards the curving. If
Speaker 1: it appeared to me that Dr D D. Palmer was
Speaker 1: being hit as he was and as hard as he
Speaker 1: was by the automobile, he must have been thrown to
Speaker 1: the ground and run over. Dr D D. Palmer was
Speaker 1: very excited and stated as he started for his house,
Speaker 1: I'm going to call up the police and see if
Speaker 1: i can have protection, as I am afraid of my life.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the witnesses saying that he was
Speaker 1: hit by a car. But of the three eyewitness account
Speaker 1: all are slightly different. Some say he was hitting the back,
Speaker 1: some say in the leg. And for what it's worth, R. C. Smith,
Speaker 1: the marshal of the parade, offered the most detailed recitation
Speaker 1: of events. This recitation does not blame b J for
Speaker 1: the murder, and it instead makes it look like D. D. Palmer,
Speaker 1: which just a catankerous old asshole who insisted in marching
Speaker 1: at the head of the parade and probably kind of
Speaker 1: walked himself to death. Yeah. Yeah. As I was lining
Speaker 1: up the marchers, I noticed Dr D D. Palmer was
Speaker 1: attempting to lead the parade and I went up to
Speaker 1: him and taking him by the arm, stopped him and
Speaker 1: attempted to lead up the streets, saying, this will be
Speaker 1: a long walk before we return, and you will be
Speaker 1: very tired, and it will be better for you to
Speaker 1: go up and get into one of the faculty autos
Speaker 1: and riot taking it easy and let us young fellows
Speaker 1: do the walking, or words of similar import This apparently
Speaker 1: pleased him for the moment, but in an instant he
Speaker 1: broke loose from me and said, damn the faculty, I'm
Speaker 1: going to lead this parade. He became very abusive, and
Speaker 1: I let him over to the sidewalk from the center
Speaker 1: of the street. In a few minutes, he made another
Speaker 1: effort to lead the parade, but I made him desist,
Speaker 1: and as I stepped up to the band of musicians
Speaker 1: who start the parade, I noticed that Dr B G.
Speaker 1: Palmer's car was slipping out of line to the left
Speaker 1: side of the street. When I again d D Palmer
Speaker 1: in the street lead of the procession, and I again
Speaker 1: ran up to him and taking him by the shoulders,
Speaker 1: started pushing him to the west side of the street
Speaker 1: and sidewalk, and as I looked over my shoulder, I
Speaker 1: discovered that B. J. Palmer's auto was coasting close to us,
Speaker 1: and I gave D. D. Palmer a shove and got
Speaker 1: him out of the way of the cars. It slipped by.
Speaker 1: It struck me with the fender before b J could stop.
Speaker 1: The car did not touch, said D. D. Palmer, nor
Speaker 1: was it closer than four or five feet from him
Speaker 1: at any time while he was on the street. Governor
Speaker 1: Morris was in the auto at the time that had happened. Again. D. D.
Speaker 1: Palmer hurried to the sidewalk and then entered the Argyle Flats,
Speaker 1: and the parade proceeded down Brady Street, and on several
Speaker 1: occasions D. D. Palmer attempted to get at the head
Speaker 1: of the marchers, but returned to the sidewalk whenever I
Speaker 1: hovered in sight, until we arrived at a near Fifth Street,
Speaker 1: when he led the parade for about half a block
Speaker 1: until I came towards him, and then went on the
Speaker 1: sidewalk and did not attempt to lead again. At Third
Speaker 1: and Brady Streets, D. D. Palmer again went to the
Speaker 1: center of the streets and talked to the traffic officer,
Speaker 1: who told him to go onto the sidewalk and keep
Speaker 1: out of the street. I further swear that I invited
Speaker 1: Dr D D. Palmer several times to write in an auto,
Speaker 1: but he persistently refused. He seemed too obsessed to get
Speaker 1: to the front and lead the marchers. No other place
Speaker 1: in the parade would answer his ideas as to his place.
Speaker 1: He was very abusive at the time. I escorted him
Speaker 1: away from the front of the band. I mean it
Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, it checks out. That sounds like his
Speaker 1: ego the whole time he was he was just a dick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it sounds like, no, I'm the best, No, I
Speaker 1: have to be in charge of this, yes, which is
Speaker 1: like that. It sounds like he was an old man
Speaker 1: who overstrained himself marching. And then some of his followers
Speaker 1: later blamed his son on the murder, although his son
Speaker 1: gave enough reason to be like, because he was a
Speaker 1: piece of ship and an asshole and clearly hit someone
Speaker 1: else with his car that day, So it's not like
Speaker 1: there's a good guy. People did get hit by a
Speaker 1: car at them. You hear that story, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it sounds like everyone is probably telling the truth on
Speaker 1: some level. Yeah, his son was like I did hit him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those stories when you hear about
Speaker 1: like two neo Nazi leaders of an organization, one claiming
Speaker 1: that like the other embezzled and the other claiming that
Speaker 1: the other embezzled from company funds. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably both did believe I believe you both scum.
Speaker 1: But you know who's not scumb Billy Wayne Davis. The
Speaker 1: advertisers who support this show could be with their dollars
Speaker 1: is the Koch Brothers. Well yeah, then they suck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they should probably get some spinal adjustments. Maybe. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they have it. I think they have a spine.
Speaker 1: It's the people they buy, you, don't They definitely have
Speaker 1: a spine and whatever will know. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: from what I've read about them, they're they're very in
Speaker 1: your face about what they believe. I would I will,
Speaker 1: I will hit them on a number of things. But
Speaker 1: they are not spin more as like an alien not
Speaker 1: having an actual spine. Yeah, alien would be a good
Speaker 1: not like. No, they're confident in Daniel's looking at us,
Speaker 1: wondering when this ad transition is actually going to turn
Speaker 1: into add time. Sorry, at some point, Nanial, at some
Speaker 1: point it now, what's back my I don't know why
Speaker 1: I'm opening it that way. We just went out for
Speaker 1: break for a minute, and I thought it was the
Speaker 1: second episode. We're just coming back from ads. I have
Speaker 1: decided what this machette looks like, Billy Wayne Davis? What
Speaker 1: is it? If the Orcs and the Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings had won the war and then modernized into a
Speaker 1: liberal democracy, this is what all of their swords would
Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, mass produced the mass produced, nice little
Speaker 1: orange grips. They're not trying to be all scary anymore.
Speaker 1: Stainless steel because it's easier to keep clean. Fisker sounds
Speaker 1: like an Orc word. Still looks kind of cool, yep, yea.
Speaker 1: You know, if they had wiped out the Elves, there'd
Speaker 1: be a bunch of Orcs in five years who like
Speaker 1: all dressed up in cosplateis elves and like you know,
Speaker 1: like Orc burning Man. They'd have a lot of like
Speaker 1: elf religious wear and stuff that like they wouldn't know
Speaker 1: they were using it in an offensive way, but they'd mean, well,
Speaker 1: just having fun, just fun, just having fun. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is that America is what happens when the Orcs win.
Speaker 1: I think that's it, just what happens when anyone wins,
Speaker 1: and then they keep winning. Yeah, because of all the
Speaker 1: all the wedding guns. Yeah, it helps. So b J
Speaker 1: was never convicted of killing his father, and the preponderance
Speaker 1: of evidence seems to suggest that Deed Palmer's death had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his son. It probably had more
Speaker 1: to do with bad salmon and his refusal to accept
Speaker 1: basic medical care. I was gonna guess that he probably
Speaker 1: didn't take care of himself health wise. Yeah, he ate
Speaker 1: some food and he got an infection, and then he
Speaker 1: refused to take actual doctor's advice on what he should do.
Speaker 1: I'll just walk it off. I'll just give him a
Speaker 1: back popped. I mean, I'll pop my own back. Where's
Speaker 1: your chair? I just need a hard, firm chair, and
Speaker 1: I won't fix this. From a paper published by the
Speaker 1: Institute of Chiropractic quote Luisa Lad, doctor of chiropractic, who
Speaker 1: acted as a nurse to d D stated that he
Speaker 1: had proper medical attention and had he followed the instructions
Speaker 1: of his doctors, he would be alive today. He disobeyed
Speaker 1: all directions, paid no attention to what they told him
Speaker 1: to do or not to do. That's good that he
Speaker 1: died the way he lived. He died the way he lived,
Speaker 1: although because his doctor was a chiropractor, it's possible that
Speaker 1: their suggestions were as bad as what he would have
Speaker 1: done anyway, Oh for sure. But this was a real
Speaker 1: blind leading the blind sort of situation, literally and ironic,
Speaker 1: and he tried to save the blind. If they'd actually
Speaker 1: been blind, he could just be good with back of
Speaker 1: the work and just can you I mean, that is
Speaker 1: your fight when you're just teaching poor medicine and then
Speaker 1: you are in the hands of the people you talked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think it's kind of perfect because, like, like when
Speaker 1: you said earlier, like there is like a a sign
Speaker 1: that he was self aware of his ship a little bit.
Speaker 1: So do you think when he's at the end, he's
Speaker 1: just like, talk them real medicine, son of it. This
Speaker 1: is really if I could admit what I've done, this
Speaker 1: is a really funny thing. But yeah, I do hope
Speaker 1: he enjoyed the cosmic irony that situation he's got like
Speaker 1: fucking a col I or some ship like salmon ell
Speaker 1: I think is what I got written down is but
Speaker 1: he's like shifting himself to death in a bed and
Speaker 1: if everyone's talking about which Verdi read of pop like
Speaker 1: he's like, fuck, I did this. I did this. You
Speaker 1: know what? This one's on me. I believe I'm I'm
Speaker 1: okay with this. I did this. I died what doing
Speaker 1: what I loved, teaching people how not to be healthy.
Speaker 1: Just the same emotion you have when you you drink
Speaker 1: yourself into the worst hangover you had. You just wake
Speaker 1: up and you're well, this is on me. It feels
Speaker 1: like I made this happen. No one, there's no guns
Speaker 1: last night. This was on me. Yeah. D. D. Palmer
Speaker 1: died on October twenty, nineteen thirteen. The next year, nineteen fourteen,
Speaker 1: his Manifesto was published. In it, he laid out his
Speaker 1: theory of innate intelligence. Did he call it a manifesto? No,
Speaker 1: he called it the Chiropractor. It WO had been too.
Speaker 1: It was essentially a manifesto. You nailed it. I was
Speaker 1: just curious if he knew. No. Innate is embodied as
Speaker 1: a personified part of universal intelligence, therefore co eternal with
Speaker 1: the all creative force. This indwelling portion of the eternal
Speaker 1: is in our care for improvement. The intellectual expansion of
Speaker 1: the innate is proportion to the normal transmission of impulses
Speaker 1: over the nervous system. For this reason, the body function
Speaker 1: should be kept in the condition of tone. Communication with
Speaker 1: the eternal spirit, the Creator is the goal of all
Speaker 1: religions cover some ground. God damn man, that's that's some
Speaker 1: impressive bullshitting on a level where lawyers are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is part of his effort to reclassify chiropractic as
Speaker 1: a religion. So that's what he starts claiming, is that,
Speaker 1: like he starts with being like, no, there's just healing
Speaker 1: power built unto your body, and like you're back, being
Speaker 1: fucked up stops it from getting to the right places.
Speaker 1: And now he's saying like this healing power is like
Speaker 1: part of the innate intelligence that like you need to
Speaker 1: like free up to flow around your body and fix it.
Speaker 1: This innate intelligent intelligence. But it's not that's part intelligence. God,
Speaker 1: it's not intelligent enough to pop your spine back into place.
Speaker 1: It needs some help, It needs some help. It's it's
Speaker 1: hindered intelligence. I think I'm understanding his theories right, but
Speaker 1: their nonsense. So that's what I was gonna say. There's
Speaker 1: no way to you can try to understand what he means.
Speaker 1: Daniel fell asleep. I'm casually rest of my eye as well.
Speaker 1: You guys are having this conversation, you heard him store right,
Speaker 1: So absolutely did. Absolutely it's because of his third vertebrate
Speaker 1: punches punches back, and his narcolypsy. Just for that, Daniel.
Speaker 1: The next one we do is going to be about
Speaker 1: Holocaust doctors fall asleep on that. So yeah, he wrote
Speaker 1: a bunch of crazy stuff about universal intelligence and innate intelligence.
Speaker 1: I'll just read one other quote from the manifesto so
Speaker 1: you can get kind of an idea of like what
Speaker 1: it's like to read this thing. Let's say, where is this?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this is all one sentence, and of course
Speaker 1: it is. I believe that this intelligence is segmented into
Speaker 1: as many parts as there are individual expressions of life.
Speaker 1: Semi colon that spirit, whether considered as a whole or individually,
Speaker 1: is advancing upwards and onward towards perfection. Semi colon that
Speaker 1: in all animated nature, this intelligence capitalized the eye, and
Speaker 1: intelligence is expressed through the nervous system, which is the
Speaker 1: means of communication to and from individualized spirit. Semi colon
Speaker 1: that the condition known as tone is the tension of
Speaker 1: in firmness. The renitzy, what the hell? The renitacy and
Speaker 1: elasticity of tissue in a state of health normal existence.
Speaker 1: That semi colon that the mental and physical condition known
Speaker 1: as disease is a disordered state because of an unusual
Speaker 1: amount of tension above or below that of tone. Semi
Speaker 1: colon that normal and abnormal amounts of strain or laxity
Speaker 1: are due to the position of the osseous framework, the neuroskeleton,
Speaker 1: which not only serves as a protector to the nervous system,
Speaker 1: but also as a regulator of tension. Semi colon that
Speaker 1: universal intelligence, the spirit as a whole or in its
Speaker 1: segmented parts, is eternal in its existence. Semi colon that
Speaker 1: physiological disintegration and somatic death or changes of the material only.
Speaker 1: Semi colon that the present and future makeup of individualized
Speaker 1: spirits to depend upon the cumulative mental function, which, like
Speaker 1: all other functions, is modified by the structural condition of
Speaker 1: the impulse transmitting nervous system. Semi colon that criminality is
Speaker 1: but the result of abnormal nervous tension. Semi colon that
Speaker 1: our individualized, segmented spiritual entities carry with them into the
Speaker 1: future spiritual state. That that which has been mentally accumulated
Speaker 1: during our physical existence semi colon it spiritual existence like
Speaker 1: the physical is progressive. Semi colon. That a correct understanding
Speaker 1: of these principles and the practice of them can constitute
Speaker 1: the religion of chiropractic semi colon. That the existence and
Speaker 1: personal identity of individualized intelligence is continue after the change
Speaker 1: known as death, semi colon, That life in this world
Speaker 1: and the next is continuous one of eternal progression. Period. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's that is the most semi colons I think I
Speaker 1: run into what he's done is he has That is
Speaker 1: how you transcribe someone someone's speech that's on cocaine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does sound like he's on blow right, And well,
Speaker 1: the semi colon is that, like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: done talking yet. I'm not done talking. Like he's got
Speaker 1: the main thought and then like forty sub thoughts and
Speaker 1: like he has to address each of the sub thoughts,
Speaker 1: but like by the time he does, it's so disconnected
Speaker 1: by the main thought that you can't figure out what then.
Speaker 1: And then instead of letting other people talk, he's just
Speaker 1: saying semicolon semicolons and putting his hand up. Yeah, oh man,
Speaker 1: because like while you're reading, because there's also a rhythm
Speaker 1: to what he's the way he's written it, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: I just noticed, Billy Wayne this this is groundbreaking. If
Speaker 1: you think about how a semi colon looks, it kind
Speaker 1: of looks like a nose because you've got the two holes.
Speaker 1: But then there's that line of cocaine trailing out on
Speaker 1: one of the nostrils. That's what the semi colon means.
Speaker 1: It's subconscious, No, it is. Yeah, you're exactly just taking
Speaker 1: a sentence to go and then and then. That is
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. I'm not not talking. I'm not
Speaker 1: not talking. After his dad's death, b J. Palmer continued
Speaker 1: to develop this theory of innate intelligence. I'm going to
Speaker 1: quote now from a Huffington's Post article on the Man.
Speaker 1: According to be J. Palmer, chiropractic has no use for
Speaker 1: a quote deity to which we can direct instructions of
Speaker 1: how to run the universe, or a soul, to say,
Speaker 1: from oven or from Hell. Asking do chiropractors prey in
Speaker 1: a book by that title, b J answered that no
Speaker 1: chiropractor would prey on his knees or in supplication to
Speaker 1: some invisible power, because innate intelligence within man is the
Speaker 1: all wise omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Director General who asserts that
Speaker 1: the only possible cause and cure are within man. See
Speaker 1: it is that thing of like I believe on some
Speaker 1: on some level of what he's saying, where you know,
Speaker 1: we're all in control of our decisions and we and
Speaker 1: the cause and solution of all human problems are held
Speaker 1: within the human brain. Not in the way to which
Speaker 1: like you can just push someone's spine back in, but
Speaker 1: like you can ever, we could solve every illness if
Speaker 1: like people directed their intelligence long enough and unconsciously, you
Speaker 1: get to solve the energy problems, political problems that people
Speaker 1: just like got their ship together funk out. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's a religious belief in a way kind of in
Speaker 1: the same way that Star Trek the Next Generation is
Speaker 1: a religious belief. It is. Yeah, but where he got
Speaker 1: where he loses me and they all lose me is
Speaker 1: like the general you're your own general, where it's like
Speaker 1: they immediately start pitching, yeah, her selling, where you're just
Speaker 1: like no, you can be like, hey, it's like the
Speaker 1: whole point of the Book of Judas, you know, they
Speaker 1: left that out because it was like supposedly it was
Speaker 1: just so much about this. What Jesus was about was
Speaker 1: just being like, no, no, you're your own God. You're
Speaker 1: in control of who you are. No one else can
Speaker 1: control you. That's like, and this sygnostic ship you're popping
Speaker 1: out now. I mean, I don't know if I believe
Speaker 1: it or what, but if I've always found that theory
Speaker 1: of what that book is fascinating because they kept it
Speaker 1: out because it's teaching people to control their own thoughts
Speaker 1: and not listen be under control, So they wanted that
Speaker 1: shift fun out of there. That makes sense. So that
Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, there's a little bit of that in here,
Speaker 1: And I like, obviously he's not the only one preaching
Speaker 1: stuff like this. Like the nineteen twenties, there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of kind of esoteric religious traditions going around, some of
Speaker 1: which would turn into Nazis, some of which turned into
Speaker 1: run Hubbard like a lot of a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 1: the rest just wound up in hot yoga. Now, despite
Speaker 1: all the work done by b J and his dad,
Speaker 1: the government did not buy the line that being a
Speaker 1: religion meant chiropractors got to call themselves doctors and practice
Speaker 1: as if they were M. D. S Throughout the first
Speaker 1: half of the twentieth century, more and more states instituted
Speaker 1: licensure requirements for chiropractors. Many of them were quite fair,
Speaker 1: simply requiring that chiropractors passed the same basic medical science
Speaker 1: boards as medical doctors, which seems fair to me. You know,
Speaker 1: you're saying your doctors, all right, Well, you just gotta
Speaker 1: pass the same test. You know as much about the
Speaker 1: body as a doctor. You get very fair. That's how
Speaker 1: it worked for a while. Between nine and nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 1: six percent of medical students successfully passed these basic board exams.
Speaker 1: Only of chiropractors could m m m m m. This
Speaker 1: created a massive problem for the discipline. They need to
Speaker 1: unlock that in night intelligence. Yeah, exactly, you didn't pobbly
Speaker 1: spine enough for you would have passed that goddamn board test. Idiots. Now,
Speaker 1: this created a massive problem for chiropractic because it led
Speaker 1: to hundreds of un licensed chiropractors fleeing to states without
Speaker 1: licensure requirements, and the vast number of non doctor chiropractors
Speaker 1: practicing ghost written religious back medicine caused some people to
Speaker 1: question whether or not chiropractic was even legitimate imagine. The
Speaker 1: solution that eventually evolved was the Doctor of Chiropractic degree
Speaker 1: for d C. Now, this is not an actual medical
Speaker 1: degree or even an actual doctorate. Instead, it's a four
Speaker 1: year degree which you can get it at chiropractic college.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even require a bachelor's degree first. The Palmer
Speaker 1: College of Chiropractic in Iowa, which is the school that
Speaker 1: doctor d. D. Palmer established, will give you a d
Speaker 1: C for the low low price of thirty four thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year. They accept a hundred of applicants, like
Speaker 1: every legitimate medical school. Thirty four grand. Hey, man, duke's
Speaker 1: gonna cost that much. Yeah, and you don't get to
Speaker 1: call yourself a doctor after four years a duke. But
Speaker 1: it's not as hard as I was, like, well, what
Speaker 1: is the point? You know what percentage of the applicants
Speaker 1: duke accepts? Not not literally anyone with a pocketbook. No,
Speaker 1: that I do not. Wow. Now it's only fair that
Speaker 1: I note that modern day chiropractors are very much mixed
Speaker 1: up about the ghostly origins of their trade. I found
Speaker 1: an article in the Journal of the Canadian Chiropractic Association
Speaker 1: by doctor of chiropractic Lawn Morgan discussing the problems the
Speaker 1: concept of innate intelligence causes for the field, Lawn writes, quote, today,
Speaker 1: innate intelligence remains an untestable enigma that isolates chiropractic and
Speaker 1: impedes its acceptance as a legitimate health science. The concept
Speaker 1: of anate is derived directly from the occult practices of
Speaker 1: another era. It carries a high penalty and divisiveness and
Speaker 1: lack of logical coherence. So it would be unfair for
Speaker 1: me to state to pretend like a lot of chiropractors
Speaker 1: aren't like, we gotta stop with the magic. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna work. In twenty nineteen, however, a profession wide
Speaker 1: survey conducted in two thousand three called how Chiropractors Think
Speaker 1: in Practice showed that the majority of chiropractors still believe
Speaker 1: more or less Indeed, E Palmer's you of innate intelligence
Speaker 1: and of subluxations is the cause of much human disease.
Speaker 1: There is a subset and a growing subset of chiropractors
Speaker 1: who argued that they should just stick to treating back
Speaker 1: and spine problems. Yes, now, this is certainly more defensible
Speaker 1: than using chiropractic treatments to say, cure deafness. But even
Speaker 1: that is kind of dumb, because there's another two thousand
Speaker 1: three study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine that
Speaker 1: evaluated studies from two thousand three on the efficacy of
Speaker 1: different treatments for back pain. They found that simple massage
Speaker 1: offered considerably more therapeutic benefits than the spinal manipulations favored
Speaker 1: by chiropractors. So even for back pain, it's not that great.
Speaker 1: I played baseball for a couple of years at junior
Speaker 1: college and we had a trainer and the two years
Speaker 1: we had a different coach when I got there, but
Speaker 1: they're the guys the year ahead of us. They had
Speaker 1: a chiropract and they all love the chiropractor. And our
Speaker 1: trainer was like, you, guys, he just makes you feel
Speaker 1: good for like ten or fifteen minutes. He's like, he
Speaker 1: never fixed any of you. Yeah, And it was just
Speaker 1: this constant battle between these nineteen year old dudes. You're like, no,
Speaker 1: he's better, he's a doctor, and they're just like, I'm eighteen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the guy that's been to school,
Speaker 1: you guys, And they're like, no, man, you don't know
Speaker 1: that chiropractor was great. Hey man, he's a four year doctor,
Speaker 1: just like Jesus, you guys. Almost as fast away of
Speaker 1: becoming a doctor is going to doctor reference school in
Speaker 1: Jamaica and porn bleach at people's butts or where was it.
Speaker 1: It's prettier there. Haiti is Haiti yeah Haiti? Now uh
Speaker 1: he gets worse. See Indeed, Palmer's Opus the chiropractor he
Speaker 1: wrote several times about how supplexations and infants and small
Speaker 1: children were often the cause of lifelong health health problems
Speaker 1: and what he called imbecility. This has led many chiropractors
Speaker 1: to believe that children should be treated with spinal manipulation.
Speaker 1: Now I found a great science based medicine article that
Speaker 1: highlights how badly this can go. The title of the
Speaker 1: article kind of says most of it. Chiropractical manipulation of
Speaker 1: the neck linked to stroke in six year old child.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, yeah. Now I'm not a medical doctor, Billy Wayne,
Speaker 1: but I don't think six year old's normally stroke out.
Speaker 1: Sixty year olds. Now we're getting to be expected, but
Speaker 1: not six. Now. This case started with a young boy
Speaker 1: presenting with symptoms of a sinus infection. Instead of driving
Speaker 1: him to a real doctor. His grandfather took him to
Speaker 1: a chiropractor who fucked up his back so badly that
Speaker 1: it cost an embolism and a stroke in the six
Speaker 1: year old child, and chiropractors routinely work on even younger children.
Speaker 1: In a few seconds googling, I found a video of
Speaker 1: doctor of chiropractic Joshua Peter Smith of Peter Smith Family
Speaker 1: Chiropractic in Missouri. In the video, he adjust the spine
Speaker 1: of a twelve week old child. Now we're gonna, we're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch this bad mama jam. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how much of it will watch, Billy, but you gotta
Speaker 1: see this guy listening. You'll have to hear this kid.
Speaker 1: So if you want to describe what you're watching in
Speaker 1: the video up until the kids starts, megan the noises
Speaker 1: the kid's gonna make. I think that will make for
Speaker 1: a solid podcasting experience. No, I'm not ready. He's got
Speaker 1: a little baby twelve weeks old as an again, it's
Speaker 1: his is it his baby? Holding it up by one leg,
Speaker 1: upside down and just sort of bouncing the baby upside
Speaker 1: down being held by a single leg. Now he's holding
Speaker 1: it by two legs. Now he's holding it by wanted
Speaker 1: this since it doesn't just hold it upside down. He's
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where it has to be adjusted.
Speaker 1: And now he's manipulating the baby's spine. So a little
Speaker 1: Naomi here is a little over eleven weeks old, and
Speaker 1: her spine is no different than anyone else's. So if
Speaker 1: her the tab bone of her neck is actually slid
Speaker 1: to the left, how I adjust her is a little
Speaker 1: different than anyone else. But the doctor, in grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things, I'm doing the exact same thing all who
Speaker 1: was pushing that bone right back to the middle, letting
Speaker 1: the body do whatever it needs to do, put it
Speaker 1: exactly where it needs to be. So it's a little
Speaker 1: it's a lot less forceful. It's very very gentle with her,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear how gentle. It isn't a seen
Speaker 1: all this collogue issues go away, So where colleague is
Speaker 1: gonna go away? Don't do it. He's stupid. Fuck, it's
Speaker 1: just baby's thrashing. I don't stop. Yeah, it's probably enough.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty obvious to me, not being a doctor
Speaker 1: of chira practy, but being a person who's watched babies
Speaker 1: before that what he's doing to that baby isn't good. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I have a six month old. Like their body is
Speaker 1: constantly forming and evolving every single day. So to go
Speaker 1: in there and be like, oh, this vertebrates a little loft,
Speaker 1: that's why he's colocky, Like, that's not how that works.
Speaker 1: Also to say that an eleven and a half week
Speaker 1: old baby's spy and it's the same as an adults,
Speaker 1: Like they don't have all their bones yet. I don't
Speaker 1: know when they get all their bones or wouldn't they
Speaker 1: come in, but I know they don't get their bones
Speaker 1: top of their skull. Yeah, it's an infant fuck just
Speaker 1: like I mean, I think it's the dad and may
Speaker 1: watching that video is like like the get your hands
Speaker 1: off that baby really Like there was like a violent
Speaker 1: part of me that was like alarming where it's like
Speaker 1: stop doing what you're doing or I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: kick you. Yeah yeah, like because he's down on the
Speaker 1: ground at one point, like I'm gonna kick you till
Speaker 1: you let at that baby that I don't want to do.
Speaker 1: It's not okay, God, not okay. Now. The article that
Speaker 1: initially inspired this episode was a piece I found in
Speaker 1: a website it quite like called the Outline, titled chibropractors
Speaker 1: are Bullshit, It discusses a Charlatan named josh As and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote from that piece now. On his Facebook page,
Speaker 1: acts a self described board certified doctor of natural Medicine
Speaker 1: who earned his doctor and chiropractic from good old Palmer
Speaker 1: College of Chiropractice. As you which sunscreens are safe and
Speaker 1: dispenses snack suggestions. Need a sweet snack that won't unravel
Speaker 1: your health goals? We have you covered, he writes, linking
Speaker 1: to a dark chocolate almond butter recipe that contains, by
Speaker 1: my estimate, more than nine calories depending on how much
Speaker 1: coconut sugar. The posts on access page run the gamut
Speaker 1: from minor bullshit like healthy recipes, to major bullshit like
Speaker 1: the pernicious claims that you can reverse cavities. You can't
Speaker 1: and watch this guy giving mental advice, and that you
Speaker 1: can treat some painful and potentially dangerous bacterial infections like
Speaker 1: U t E s and staff with essential oils and
Speaker 1: anti viral herbs. Again, not so much. He also writes
Speaker 1: that living a life of purpose can lower dementia risk.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice? Well, it might not concern you
Speaker 1: that a physician with nearly two million followers on Facebook
Speaker 1: is spending his time posting recipes for face wash. It
Speaker 1: should pique your curiosity. These telling people he's never met
Speaker 1: they should purchase his products to support any number of conditions,
Speaker 1: from leaky gut syndrome not real to aging his bone
Speaker 1: broth collagen formula now available in chocolate will set you
Speaker 1: back thirty seven dollars. That's a funny word. Support. It's
Speaker 1: legal speak for this product is bullshit. Beyond his line
Speaker 1: of snake whils, it should absolutely scare you that Acts
Speaker 1: has written articles espousing his anti vaccine views while speaking
Speaker 1: glowingly of anti vax queen Jenny McCarthy's pediatrician. Oh everything
Speaker 1: you said, Yeah, it's real bad, right, It's it's like
Speaker 1: you like, there's so many I can't even it's just
Speaker 1: levels of bullshit. I I try to picture what they
Speaker 1: do every day when they wake up, you know, like
Speaker 1: you and I knew what we're gonna do today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about chiropractic. And I didn't know it
Speaker 1: was gonna be swinging around and that that has been
Speaker 1: a welcome surprise. I knew that was gonna happen, but
Speaker 1: we knew what we're gonna be. There's like substance to
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Yeah, there's is like, how can I
Speaker 1: come up with more horseship? More horseship for money? But
Speaker 1: where does it? Because they've made so much theoretically, theoretically,
Speaker 1: where does it? It's not about money, and that that
Speaker 1: dr Ax guy seems like a grifter to me. I
Speaker 1: don't know this Dr Peter Smith, the guy who's adjusting
Speaker 1: the baby. You look at his face in there, like,
Speaker 1: is he just a fucking sociopath or is he someone
Speaker 1: who really thinks he's a doctor? Well, I think it's
Speaker 1: it's the same, like because it's based in religion. Yeah, religious,
Speaker 1: it's susceptible to people who think that everything they do
Speaker 1: is for the Lord and for this, you know, it's
Speaker 1: the same Westboro for innate intelligence. Those people think they're
Speaker 1: doing everything for the right reasons, like the God hates
Speaker 1: fags people. Yeah, how the human brain is fascinated. It's
Speaker 1: a playground, Yeah, just the playground. Now. That Outline article
Speaker 1: also covers the sad story if Playboy model Katie May
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen, she died of a stroke after
Speaker 1: visiting her chiropractor. A two thousand seven study established, yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's actually that would have been a lot healthier. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because two seven study established a strong link between chiropractic
Speaker 1: manipulation and the risk of strokes caused by what's called
Speaker 1: vertebral artery, the section which would happen to that little
Speaker 1: kid like pop someone's back forcefully enough that it severs
Speaker 1: an artery, then they stroke out. Now, it's hard to
Speaker 1: say what the annual death told you to chiropractic medicine
Speaker 1: actually is. I found a two thousand ten study in
Speaker 1: the National Institutes of Health studying all the deaths they
Speaker 1: could find that immediately followed spinal manipulation by a chiropractor.
Speaker 1: The abstract notes under results twenty six fatalities were published
Speaker 1: in the medical literature, and many more might have remained unpublished.
Speaker 1: The alleged pathology usually was a vascular accident involving the
Speaker 1: dissection of a vertebral artery, which is again the most
Speaker 1: common fatal side effect of chiropractic The article's conclusion states,
Speaker 1: numerous deaths have occurred after chiropractic manipulations the risks of
Speaker 1: this treatment by far outweigh its benefit. Are there any
Speaker 1: good reasons to do? It? Makes me feel good? I
Speaker 1: mean I got to there's a tie lady that walks
Speaker 1: one in its frog hair. Yeah, now, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it is that a lot of the chiropractors,
Speaker 1: it's the same problem you have. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: the anti VAXX doctors were like, they're the most charismatic doctors.
Speaker 1: Like that guy who was popping that baby's back, good
Speaker 1: looking young guy. I'm sure he has an incredible bedside
Speaker 1: manner and he has a deep voice in the cadence
Speaker 1: he's spoken. That was the first thing I noticed was
Speaker 1: this very confident I know what I'm talkingfident calm hand
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do. I'm a cool dude. A
Speaker 1: lot of real doctors because they're actually practicing medicine, they're
Speaker 1: very busy, they're very stressed out, they don't sleep enough.
Speaker 1: A lot of them have substance abuse problems because they
Speaker 1: have very stressful, difficult jobs. They can be less than
Speaker 1: friendly because say they're working at an e er or
Speaker 1: something like that, they're dealing with too much of a
Speaker 1: workload because there aren't enough real doctors and the insurance
Speaker 1: on top of that insurance filing stuff with the government,
Speaker 1: whereas this guy is just a liar, so he gets
Speaker 1: to be calm all the time. So you're real doctors,
Speaker 1: like you got one of two things. You gotta do
Speaker 1: this test at this test, I gotta go on to
Speaker 1: do something like this, like go take this and get
Speaker 1: this next test, and I'll tell you what we need
Speaker 1: to do do next. And he's like, it's scary because
Speaker 1: you're already sick and he's not really taking the time
Speaker 1: to help you because he's got other ship to do.
Speaker 1: And this guy sits down with you and he talks
Speaker 1: with you and he explains how no, I can fix
Speaker 1: your baby's colic, just let me pop it spine, and
Speaker 1: you're like, cool, yeah, it sounds great. Yeah, you called
Speaker 1: me down and you wear a nice turtleneckcuts. It's like
Speaker 1: when I got my weed card when I first move
Speaker 1: to the l A, the guy had a wrinkled lap cut.
Speaker 1: That does not evoke confidence from a medical professional. It's
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever seen it. I can't make it.
Speaker 1: It's just more funny. Conversation was like, huh, I've never
Speaker 1: seen that before the best thing about the old way
Speaker 1: we'd used to work in Los Angeles is that it
Speaker 1: was clearly like a retirement program for doctors who either
Speaker 1: were on the edge of getting disbarred from like killing
Speaker 1: somebody on the operating table, or were just too old
Speaker 1: to work anymore. I had both of them. I had
Speaker 1: a younger dude where I was like, what did you
Speaker 1: don't you got a baby? And then there's the old
Speaker 1: guy with like he's just like barely awake, like I
Speaker 1: had one doctor were like he had a picture on
Speaker 1: the wall where he couldn't even focus long enough for
Speaker 1: the picture. He looked like he was falling asleep for it.
Speaker 1: And then his assistant tried to skype us in to
Speaker 1: talk with him, and he didn't pick up skype twice
Speaker 1: and she just sports sick. So I got my wheat card. Beautiful.
Speaker 1: I miss it, Billy. It is so much easier, man,
Speaker 1: I got one. I lived in Seattle, Washington, had a
Speaker 1: Seattle I d I was just down here doing sets,
Speaker 1: meeting with some people. Walked with my friend who had
Speaker 1: lived down here for two years. We were on venice
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna try to go get
Speaker 1: a wheat card. In this place, you could see the
Speaker 1: ocean from the doctor's office, and the guy and the
Speaker 1: lady she started. She was being kind of shitty to
Speaker 1: me at first because I had some out of state
Speaker 1: I d and she was like, what are you here for?
Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, I'm a stand up comedian.
Speaker 1: She was oh, I just started doing open mic and
Speaker 1: then just started checking stuff without even looking. When she
Speaker 1: figured out I could help her, I told her where
Speaker 1: to go to do some comedy stuff and walked out.
Speaker 1: My friend was like, what the hell here for two years?
Speaker 1: I was like, I've been here for a day, dude,
Speaker 1: Let's go get some weight. One of the first guys
Speaker 1: I met in l A is a friend of a
Speaker 1: friend and he was in the Marines and he got
Speaker 1: shot in the leg, and he like legitimately was using
Speaker 1: pot at the time in part to like deal with pain.
Speaker 1: And he had his medical examination with the doctor and
Speaker 1: the doctor just looped him in with another patient who
Speaker 1: happened to be in the room at the time, who
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know anxiety, Yes, it's like
Speaker 1: you're both the same. To me. Let's gunshot wounded anxiety
Speaker 1: as much body as you can garry the overscribe it
Speaker 1: to your boat. The old man I went to, like
Speaker 1: you were talking about who was just it was pure retirement.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to be like, how
Speaker 1: much are they paying you to do this? Oh? They're
Speaker 1: making they made bank. He had a poster on the
Speaker 1: wall that had all the ailments, so he was like
Speaker 1: he and he was so lazy, just like which one is?
Speaker 1: He just pointed out pick on the window? What your
Speaker 1: problem is? Man? America is pretty fun. And that's the
Speaker 1: kind of quack medicine I like where you just pay
Speaker 1: fifty dollars to have a doct to say, literally any problem.
Speaker 1: The prescription is however much pot you can pay for us.
Speaker 1: That's it great. Not let's pop a twelve year old
Speaker 1: spine or twelve week old spine. Ah well, Billy, that
Speaker 1: was fun. The episode's over. You know what that means.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pop that for brief. I'm gonna hit this
Speaker 1: for breeze. Now, Billy, I'm gonna want you to I'm
Speaker 1: gonna want you to open the poison room and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want you to duck to the side as
Speaker 1: quick as you can sow. Now, Sophia is there an
Speaker 1: outside wall? Or is this gonna go sailing into the
Speaker 1: parking lots? Up? You're fantastic. Okay, this is officially safe.
Speaker 1: Sophie approves, give me, I don't approve hell Fell that
Speaker 1: time ship. I'm I'm gonna throw it horizontally. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Oh or it's
Speaker 1: hard to do that. It's hard to do that, I think,
Speaker 1: because what we're doing you really have to serve it
Speaker 1: up yourself a nice love and slash. This one's gonna charm.
Speaker 1: Oh got it? Yeah? Kick it in there, kick it
Speaker 1: in there, billy. I do think that I would be
Speaker 1: fun with it. Basically in Time's letting me have explosives. Understand.
Speaker 1: I feel like that worked out well. I thought it
Speaker 1: worked out better than chiropractical medicine does. Still going, I
Speaker 1: should try to start selling machette medicine, machete machette your
Speaker 1: way to health. What's sad is that any of these
Speaker 1: griffs you and I would try, we would be way
Speaker 1: more successful than any of our other endeavors in our lives. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: like what happened? How did you get successful? So we
Speaker 1: just started lying, here we go, Here we go? I
Speaker 1: figured out. I figured out my my manifesto for Machettison. Now,
Speaker 1: we've all seen two thousand one of Space Odyssey, the
Speaker 1: documentary film that shows us how human tool you started.
Speaker 1: Watch from that movie there was some monkey picks up
Speaker 1: a large bone and start swinging it. Human beings evolved
Speaker 1: to swing large heavy things with one arm. The problem
Speaker 1: with modern society you never have a large heavy thing
Speaker 1: in your arm. The answer to that the machete. If
Speaker 1: you're always carrying a machete, Billy Waite, and always swinging it,
Speaker 1: then you're vertebrate align properly, which clears the wound chakras
Speaker 1: out and removes the sickness subluxations from inside your gallbladder.
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Speaker 1: It is a lot, but we need you to be serious.
Speaker 1: We need you to be serious, We need you to
Speaker 1: take its investment. It's investment in your health. And you
Speaker 1: know what, Billy, I'm in a good mood today. So
Speaker 1: along with that machete. For four I'm going to throw
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Speaker 1: how much? For free free. That's just coming on there
Speaker 1: for free. So we get the machety, you get the machete,
Speaker 1: and then we get a book. This Hack your Way
Speaker 1: to Better Health tails us how to use the ship.
Speaker 1: You've heard about body hacking. This is just straight up
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Speaker 1: so it'll support your cancer treatment, support it, support it.
Speaker 1: I like support supporting. Just that feels better than treat
Speaker 1: is support. Support a lot to feel supported. We all
Speaker 1: like to feel some brawl for your cancer. Let this
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Speaker 1: and we have them available for infants. Yes, for an
Speaker 1: extra you can get our special babies machete, which is
Speaker 1: the same as our adult machete, but pink just like Well,
Speaker 1: I think we've sold. I think we've got people trying
Speaker 1: to find the wedding. That's why you're upset with this,
Speaker 1: because we're doing a pretty good job to say. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get yacht money and leave this podcast behind.
Speaker 1: I'm just disappointed. I just want to turn the channel.
Speaker 1: We're on three channels right now. Yeah, so Billy want
Speaker 1: to plug your plugable. The President just made me the
Speaker 1: director of Health and Human Services. I mean, that's not
Speaker 1: even funny a cabinet position. I feel like I could
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, since I've been holding this
Speaker 1: machete virtually the whole epistent that to him, you might
Speaker 1: be the he might be the Secretary of Defense Orange,
Speaker 1: I see something I like, Billy, Wayne, I just I'm
Speaker 1: about to I'm working on putting together a tour for
Speaker 1: the fall in the winter, so BWD tour dot com.
Speaker 1: And I worked on the new season with Squidbillies, which
Speaker 1: is on Adult Swim right now. So check that out.
Speaker 1: That's such a perfect show for you to be working on.
Speaker 1: It was a dream. Did not feel like work? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: well I did not work on the new season of
Speaker 1: squid Billies. I did one have an altercation with a squid,
Speaker 1: but that's a tale for another day. The website for
Speaker 1: this podcast, the sources for all of this episode are
Speaker 1: on behind the Bastards dot com. You can find us
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at at bastards pod. Uh you
Speaker 1: can buy T shirts at T Public Behind the Bastards,
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Speaker 1: it sounds