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Speaker 1: What's gift in my three and a half foot long machees.

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Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans, host of Behind the Bastards, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where we talked about the worst people in history and

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Speaker 1: where I received a beautiful, heartwarming gift from my co

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Speaker 1: host today, Billy Wayne Davis. Hey, everybody. Yeah, now, Billy Wayne,

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Speaker 1: I got back from Syria not too long ago, and

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Speaker 1: you surprised me with one of the best presents I've

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Speaker 1: ever received, which is essentially a small sword. It is

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Speaker 1: it's like a if they made a baseball bat and

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Speaker 1: a sword. Yeah, it's an unnecessarily large Fiskers machete that's

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Speaker 1: got a two handed grip, which I love. I love.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to hit things with us. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have, like we've had this discussion. We both

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Speaker 1: have multiple machete You know, you don't have children or

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Speaker 1: a wife. No, I have those things. Well that's true

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Speaker 1: that you know about any wives you know about? Uh,

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Speaker 1: but I found it on Amazon and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a reason to get this, and then

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Speaker 1: I remembered you went to Syria, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, that's noble as hell. Yeah, Well, noble

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Speaker 1: is not the right way to say. Maybe I just

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Speaker 1: did it to justify getting another machete. We didn't know

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Speaker 1: it was coming. I didn't know it was coming. But

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Speaker 1: that's purely noble like that, you're so humble. You're like,

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Speaker 1: I just did it to give a machete. You didn't

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Speaker 1: know I was going to do that. I did not

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Speaker 1: know it was going to do that. But now that

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Speaker 1: I have it, the machete feels like a worthwhile prize

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Speaker 1: for for this work, and I'm excited to find new

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Speaker 1: things to hit with it. There's so many different things

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Speaker 1: to do with it. There's it's there were several meetings.

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Speaker 1: I think it went on designing those fiskers a lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in the holes in the back, which I

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Speaker 1: think make it faster. Is that what it is? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I suspect they make it faster. The grip

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Speaker 1: is really I have large hands and I liked that

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Speaker 1: the grip is the perfect length for both of them.

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Speaker 1: On there, I'm excited up to Sophie provided me with

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Speaker 1: a bag of chips to to cut open, which he

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Speaker 1: threw at me. That was fun when I'm excited, though,

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Speaker 1: I got this can of fabrieze Billy Wayne Davis Man Sophie.

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Speaker 1: Sophie just put her head in her hands, covered her eyes,

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Speaker 1: very exasperated. I'm gonna smells good. Gain smells good, So

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Speaker 1: I would be improving the room if I if I

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Speaker 1: have you tossed this at me and hit it with

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Speaker 1: a machete bat I think Sophie's flipping me off with

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Speaker 1: let's do that at the end. Yeah, we should do

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Speaker 1: that at the end of the gift to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We can knock it into the poison room. We can

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Speaker 1: just open the door quickly knocked the fabris can into

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Speaker 1: the poison room. That way, if it sprays everywhere, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't render the room uninhabitable. We can lock it with

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Speaker 1: the poison. It's great. I think that's a plan, all right.

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Speaker 1: Sophie seems to be on board. I think she's proud

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Speaker 1: of me. Now. It's hard to tell which of her

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Speaker 1: size means pride and which doesn't. Daniel's Daniels nodding at

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Speaker 1: me with pride though he's happy. He thinks I made

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Speaker 1: a good decision. Yeah. When it showed up, my wife

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Speaker 1: was like, what why don't we You don't need it,

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Speaker 1: it's a gift, and she goes, I don't know who

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Speaker 1: you're hanging out with it and just walked off. This

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Speaker 1: is one of the most beautiful gifts I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Billy Wayne, thank you. This is my new official podcasting machette.

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Speaker 1: It's not as rusty as my old one, no, but

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Speaker 1: it'll get rust on it. Yes, if I'm doing my job,

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Speaker 1: I'll get some rust on this fucker handle It last

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Speaker 1: a lot longer than that blaze. Well, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the founder of chiropractic medicine today. So the first dude

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Speaker 1: to be like, hey, honey, come walcome back, I think

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Speaker 1: the first dude to be like, you're sick, let me

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Speaker 1: walk on your back. Okay, yes, I got you. Now,

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Speaker 1: Billy Wayne, what is the first word that comes to

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Speaker 1: your mind when you hear the term chiropractor. We're on

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Speaker 1: the script now, I mean scam. We're already in the

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Speaker 1: guess for most people it's probably like spine or back

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bet almost nobody's first word is religion. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I'm already in it. I'm already in

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Speaker 1: you're putting these two together. Go on, Well, today we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about how chiropractic medicine or whatever you

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Speaker 1: This seems to have been. You know, it's the kind

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Speaker 1: wanted to like no medicine and just assume that whatever

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Speaker 1: a special type of man who does that is a

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Speaker 1: special where like, did you could just go to school?

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Speaker 1: I could just go to school four years and just

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Speaker 1: be a shitty doctor. Yeah, now no, I will kill

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Speaker 1: some people. I'm just going to figure it out, learn

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Speaker 1: as I go. I love it. So this tale starts,

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Speaker 1: as all such tales do, with a single beautiful grifter.

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Speaker 1: Daniel David Palmer here to four known as D D. Palmer,

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Speaker 1: He was born on March five and a now non

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Speaker 1: existent town near Toronto, Canada. At the time, it was

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Speaker 1: known to most people as a way out west. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then it disappeared. Yeah, it's just gone. Now nobody

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Speaker 1: out here is kind of bullshit. Have you been, Tony?

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Speaker 1: Have you been to Toronto? It's a city now. Everyone left.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a dead horse in a pond. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's the circus came to town and then the town disappeared. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Toronto did start as a dead horse in a pond. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That checks out. Yeah, that's my name had cannon for Toronto,

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Speaker 1: so uh. D D. Palmer's family had come over to

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Speaker 1: So his dad made a deal with him. Can I

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Speaker 1: just yeah, that's like that means like nothing, that means

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Speaker 1: Who Yeah, yeah, that's that's poor. Like putting your eleven

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Speaker 1: I know people with versions of that story that started

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Speaker 1: was as full of superstition as an egg is full

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Speaker 1: whole back story for him, where like his dad couldn't

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Speaker 1: leave the shell, you know, meat eggs, And what was

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Speaker 1: all the things he he just sounds like like a

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Speaker 1: folks he got got hit on the head, where you like,

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Speaker 1: It's more entertaining. Yeah, And I'll tell you there's some

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Speaker 1: head injuries in this guy's past. He doesn't write about him,

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Speaker 1: but I can't imagine having this upbringing and not getting

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Speaker 1: the two persons that caused one to have pneumonia, qatara,

421
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Speaker 1: typhoid or rheumatism while his partner similarly situated escaped Why

422
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: This question had worried thousands for centuries and was answered

423
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: in September. Yeah, he found the answer on one day,

424
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Speaker 1: on one day. You're curious about what I would write

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Speaker 1: that down if you got the answer. Yeah, you might

426
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: want to take notes on this part here. It's pretty

427
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: important important. But what day was it? Actually? Oh, ships,

428
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: I guess it's he's not lying. Oh wait, no, no, sorry,

429
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: that was the date of something else. It was in

430
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Speaker 1: September eight, though he's not lying. He's got the date

431
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Speaker 1: down there something. So the story about how he figured

432
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: out the cause of all human ailments and gave birth

433
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: to chiropractic is the story of what happened on that

434
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: September day in so Dr D. D. Palmer was working

435
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: late in his office practicing mesmerism and trying to advance

436
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: his understanding of channeling the electrical energy of the human

437
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: body from magical purposes. And as he was leaving for

438
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: the night after long day of this, how do you

439
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: know you're done? Yeah? When did you reach the end

440
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: of that? Figured as much as I can today? Well,

441
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: people are still dying. I ain't figured it out. So

442
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: as he was leaving for the night, he ran into

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Speaker 1: the building's janitor, a man named Harvey Lillard. Now Mr

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00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: Lillard was deaf, and once Dan Palmer realized that this

445
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: guy was deaf, he decided that it was his duty

446
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: to cure Mr. Lillard. But he's he is that guy,

447
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: isn't he? How you doing? Oh? You deaf? I'm gonna

448
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: fix the that I found you. Now. There are a

449
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: couple of versions of this story because it's a lie,

450
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: the most because I remember how it happened, because this

451
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: never happened. And we're gonna go into the most detailed

452
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: version of the story. But first, you know, we're gonna

453
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Speaker 1: go into right now, some ads, some products, some products,

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Speaker 1: and the first product I'd like to plug before we

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Speaker 1: you want a machete that's larger than you probably have

457
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Speaker 1: a use for, but will feel great to hit things

458
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Speaker 1: with two handed. I mean, just so good you guys,

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Speaker 1: like one day delivery one of my best Really, that's

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Speaker 1: the funniest part about it. That's amazing. It was I

461
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Speaker 1: ordered on a Saturday, came out a Sunday. Now people

462
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Speaker 1: say capitalism is rendering the climate unsustainable and creating an

463
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Speaker 1: unreasonable wealth disparity and leading to a nightmare future in

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Speaker 1: which the poor and the rich become increasingly separate species

465
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Speaker 1: due to genetic modification. But experts, what other kind of

466
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Speaker 1: system could deliver a machete of that quality to your

467
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Speaker 1: door in a day? Not one that's thinking about everybody,

468
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Speaker 1: Not one this thing about everybody. It is awesome. I've

469
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Speaker 1: changed my mind on a lot of things thanks to

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Speaker 1: this machete. Here's some products services, We're back. Sophie has

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Speaker 1: admitted that the machete was fun and that she now

472
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Speaker 1: approves of me doing anything and everything with it. No,

473
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Speaker 1: that's what I heard, But but enjoy I will. I'm

474
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Speaker 1: very much looking forward to seeing what I really like.

475
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Speaker 1: The handle is orange, you know, it just has like

476
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Speaker 1: its so you don't get shot other hunters. It's very

477
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Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing, and it's like just heavy enough where you

478
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Speaker 1: feel powerful, but not too heavy where you feel weighted down. Yeah,

479
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: you can swing it a bunch of times without getting tired.

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Speaker 1: It does kind of look like something you would use

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Speaker 1: to flip meat. It does look like you could you

482
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: could flip with this. Yeah, it's really would work as

483
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Speaker 1: a spatula because of the way that the blade is shaped.

484
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Speaker 1: But if we're being honest, if you use it as

485
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Speaker 1: a whip and ship has went south, yeah, yeah, this

486
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: would not be the first choice. You know what wouldn't

487
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Speaker 1: be my first choice to do with this. We have

488
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Speaker 1: these soundboards on the roof that are secured secure you

489
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Speaker 1: can do it, And the one right above Sophie has

490
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of paper towel rolls on it. I

491
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: bet if I cut that thing down, I could rain

492
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: paper towels on you. Sophie. You have been but man,

493
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Speaker 1: that would be fun. That would probably get that would

494
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Speaker 1: probably be crossing the line at the office actually cutting

495
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: the soundboards off the walls. That would probably be going

496
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: too far. Dan Old appreciate it. If I didn't, we

497
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: will see what happens, because there's no guarantees. When you've

498
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Speaker 1: got a Fiskers machete on the table, it's a gift

499
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: that keeps on giving. It's the gift that keeps on

500
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Speaker 1: giving until it takes. Let's talk about Dr Palmer, So

501
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about the day in September eight when he

502
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: discovered the solution to all human illnesses and ailments. He

503
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: met his building's janitor and realized he was deaf and

504
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: decided that he was going to cure him. So I'm

505
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna read a version of the story of how he

506
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: did this that I found in a September nine issue

507
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Speaker 1: of the Herald Journal, a local paper for Spartanburg, South Carolina.

508
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Speaker 1: What Yeah, they were covering like the opening of a

509
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: chiropractic college. Okay, yeah, which wrote a pretty good synthesis

510
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: of the different versions of the story that makes more sense. Yeah. Quote,

511
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: the building's janitor, Harvey Lillard, was deaf and Palmer became

512
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: curious about the cause. Stories are different on how Palmer

513
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: was supposed to have discovered that by adjusting a bump

514
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: on Lillard's neck, his deafness was cured. One story is

515
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: that Lillard told Palmer he became deaf after bending over

516
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: and hearing something crack in his neck, and that Palmer

517
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: cured the deafness after pressing the bump on Lillard's neck

518
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: for three consecutive days. Lillard's daughter, Miss Valdinia Simmons, tells

519
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: that while Palmer was joking with her father one day,

520
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: he slapped the man on the back with a book,

521
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: causing the first chiropractic adjustment. Palmer's own writings the chiropractics

522
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: adjuster give this account quote an examination showed a vertebrae

523
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: rack from its normal position, a reason that if the

524
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: vertebra was replaced, the man's hearing should be restored. He

525
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: talked Lillard into allowing him to replace the vertebrae using

526
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: the spinus process as a lever, and soon the man

527
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: could hear as before. There was nothing crude about this adjustment,

528
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Palmer wrote, It was specific, so much so that no

529
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: hiropractor has equalled it bullshit. Well, so, yeah, those are

530
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: the three versions of the story. One is that he

531
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: like finds a lump on this guy's neck and like

532
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: slowly adjusted for three days until he's not deaf, and

533
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: he gets him on the back with a book. Yeah

534
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: as a joke. Hey. And another is is that he

535
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: gave him a comprehensive examination and then snapped his vertebra

536
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: brack in the place and then he was like, oh,

537
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: this vertebrate is connected to your hearing bone. Yeah. Yeah.

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00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: There's a couple of noteworthy things about this. One is that,

539
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: according to Palmer's own writings, the first chiropractic adjustment all

540
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: of history was the very best, which is not the

541
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: way a science is. I don't think that's um. That

542
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: is how they guy invented dynamite the first The first

543
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: dynamite was real good dynamite. Same with the first cocaine. Um.

544
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: The other is that, if you take Palmer's version of

545
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: the story, chiropractic medicine started with a non consensual medical procedure.

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00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: Because while Palmer claimed to have had a conversation with

547
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: this patient about what he wanted to do, the patient

548
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: was deaf, and I don't think D. D. Palmer knew

549
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: sign language. I don't even know if there were sign

550
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: language round at that point. The eighteen. Was there sign

551
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: language in Sophie. I'm sure there's a version. He doesn't

552
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: write a damn thing about knowing sign language, so I'm

553
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: gonna say either way, invented in Oh shit, alright. So

554
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: he also seems like the kind of gather if he

555
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: knew how to do something, he'd let you know. Yet

556
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: the exact wording is he talked Willard into allowsing him

557
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: to like replace the verden broke, which is like you

558
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: lay on the ground and get behind you. Yeah. I

559
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: don't think informed consent if this was an actual procedure,

560
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: I do not think informed consent was a part of it. Well,

561
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: it's easy to sneak up on something too that when

562
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: they came, especially a deaf man, poppy fucking back, do

563
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Yeah, that's how you that's how you

564
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 1: start a new medical discipline and pushing a deaf man

565
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: from behind, you tackle the deaf guy until he can hear.

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00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: That's what I did, and that's how I'm We all

567
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: remember how Jonah Salt killed polio by abducting those kids. Yeah,

568
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: that's part of Jonah Salt's back story. Don't look it up,

569
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: don't do not do not look at aricism. So once D. D.

570
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Palmer had stumbled onto this new method of healing, he

571
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: began to work backwards, constructing a brand new theory of

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00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: how to cure human illness. He started claiming that his

573
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: research had let him to discover that every human body

574
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: was filled with enough natural healing power to cure any

575
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: ailment afflicting it. Any illness or sickness affecting a single organ, limb,

576
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: or region of the body then was caused by a

577
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: blockage that stopped this healing energy from reaching its proper destination.

578
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: Spinal misalignment was the cause of almost all such blockages,

579
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Speaker 1: all of them. The rest of it has not I mean,

580
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: I think clearly there was an exceptions, like, yeah, if

581
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: you're shot or something, that's probably not due to a

582
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: spinal misalignment. You just got shot, but cancer, you got

583
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: allergies yet, emphysema, you're blind, you're deaf, that's your fucking spine.

584
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: Bro Oh yeah that makes sense. Yeah, it's all in

585
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: the spine sickness. That is so. In his work with Lillard,

586
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Palmer claimed to have discovered that adjusting the spine properly

587
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: could fix any health ailment. Thus was the new medical

588
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: Science of Chiropractic Adjustment. Born on September that's the day. Sorry,

589
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: it's for a little disordered on this. Over the coming years, D. D.

590
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Palmer began teaching his techniques to students around the country.

591
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: He established the Palmer College of Chiropractic in eighteen ninety

592
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: seven out of Davenport, Iowa. The school's original name was

593
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Palmer's School and Cure, but that name was later changed

594
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: because it sounds like a scam. Yeah yeah, yeah, Hey,

595
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: people know your scams a scam. Yeah, you got to

596
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: change the name called a fucking college. Yeah soon, hundreds

597
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: upon hundreds still haven't figured out that that's this, No,

598
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: because this college is still in operation, well in any

599
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, speaking in which my back's hurting. Yeah,

600
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: I got an appointment with my chiropractor. He might here

601
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: him deafness too. It's what it is. It's like, it's

602
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: just releasing tension. Yes, some of some chiropractors are good

603
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: at massage. We'll get into that a little later. We'll

604
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: get into the research later. Let's get ahead of ourselves.

605
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: He sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, thank you for apologizing.

606
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: You're welcome, But really, this machette is all the apology

607
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: you ever need to give me. That's so if he

608
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: can I hit the fabris. Yet she's saying no, we

609
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: should probably wait until the end anyway, because it might

610
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: be a really bad idea. What's the scent? The scent

611
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: on the fabris is gain. This is a great smell

612
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: and detergent. It eliminates tough lingering owners. It might be

613
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: good in the poison room. It might clear the poison

614
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: out of the poison room, might be a neutral room.

615
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: Sophie looks convinced Billy Wayne's jacas their type. I think

616
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: that's what we want to do, unlike a poison room.

617
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Soon hundreds upon hundreds of chiropractors were applying their trade

618
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: from C to shining C. Now I wanted to provide

619
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Speaker 1: everybody with a deep understanding of what kinds of things exactly. D. D.

620
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: Palmer was claiming that chiropractic adjustment could do as he

621
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: refined his new science. So I found the blog of

622
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: a popular chiropractic motivational speaker, Doctor Ward. Now, dr Ward

623
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: seems to be a grifter, even within this field of grifters,

624
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: Like this is a current guy. Yeah, he's a current guy.

625
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: He's a motivational speaker who I think motivates chiropractors. Yeah,

626
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: what what need? Yeah, that's a meta grift right there, Baby,

627
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: I love that ship I found my mark. Uh yeah,

628
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: So he compiled a list of ten things the founder

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Speaker 1: said about chiropractic medicine. Now, all of these ten things

630
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: are direct quotes from various works published by D. D. Palmer.

631
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to read that whole list now, Billy, Okay,

632
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah. Let me know when you got questions.

633
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Quote number one. The basic principle and the principles of

634
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: chiropractic which have been developed from it are not new.

635
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: They were as old as the vertebra. I am not

636
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: the first person to replace subluxated vertebra, for this art

637
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: has been practiced for thousands of years. Art art. Yeah.

638
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: I I keep calling it a science because I don't

639
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: know what else to call it, or like a branch

640
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: of medicine. He seems to refer to it more as

641
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: an art here, So maybe that's a mistake in my

642
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: write up of it. I think modern chiropractors try to

643
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: make it seem like a science. Would Yeah, it's it's better, Yeah,

644
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I would. Nobody's like I'm hurting real bad. Take me

645
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: to the artist, Yes, exactly, Yeah, where's banks? Yours? Banks?

646
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: He could fix this ship. Number two, do not forget

647
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: that chiropractors did not treat diseases. They had just causes,

648
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: whether acquired, spontaneous or the result of accident. I mean,

649
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: yeah that I think that's the root of all diseases,

650
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: finding the cause. But it's the same. It's actually the

651
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: same justification. If you remember from the bleached drink guy

652
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: who was like, oh this won't uh that doesn't cure anything.

653
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: It just fixes the causes of the sickness, which is okay,

654
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: m m. Yeah. Drugs are delusive. They do not adjust anything.

655
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: Which are you're taking the wrong fucking drugs, buddy. I

656
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 1: get adjusted all the damn but the ones I've taken

657
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: adjusted some stuff that I don't have to take those

658
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: drugs anymore. I was just in Mexico, where if you

659
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: learn five or six at the right words, you can

660
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: get almost anything out of a drug store, and I

661
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: got some shit adjusted. Did it adjust itself back? Oh

662
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: not yet? Uh yeah. Pro tip for going to Mexico

663
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: learn how to say, uh, my friend's dog is sick.

664
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: I need ketamine. Great sentence, and they're like, and they

665
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: just smile when you say that. Right, Well, it depends, yeah, yeah,

666
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: it depends. Sometimes you gotta go to a couple of

667
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: pharmacies all insane. You don't have a dog. The philosophy

668
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: of chiropractic is founded upon the knowledge of the manner

669
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: in which a vital functions are performed by innate in

670
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: health and disease. When controlling intelligence is able to transmit

671
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: mental impulses to all parts of the body, free and unobstructed,

672
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: we have normal action, which is health. You want to

673
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: diagram that fucking said, like, look at that, Look at

674
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: it's number four. Look at that fucking sentence to me

675
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: and tell me that's not written by a fucking idiot,

676
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: and what cannot reread it? The philosophy the philosophy of

677
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: chiropractic is founded upon the knowledge of the manner in

678
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: which a vital functions are performed by a night In

679
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: health and disease, When the controlling intelligence is able to

680
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: transmit mental impulses to all parts of the body, free

681
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: and unobstructed, we have normal action, which is health. I

682
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: think that that's how Trump would just say. I think

683
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: that's how he thinks he sounds when he talks. It's

684
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: someone with like an open head who's also eloquent. Yeah,

685
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: I I love the idea that normal action is health,

686
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: which I'm going to I actually just sent a bunch

687
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: of emails out to my friends with multiple sclerosis and

688
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: like major depressive disorders. Good news. The normal action of

689
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: your body as health. So you're healthy. Yeah, you're healthy.

690
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: Just you just gotta get your spine adjusted. That's why

691
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: that autoimmune disease is fucking with your organs. Yeah, because

692
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: you're not at your back, you're not walking. You gotta

693
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: pop that ship. Yeah, have you cracked your back? Chiropractors

694
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: correct abnormalities of the intellect as well as those of

695
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: the body. He was real focused on the idea that

696
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: they called them imbeciles, which is like what we call

697
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: mentally handicapped, what we used to call I don't know

698
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: what the exactly like terms people use now, but like

699
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: people who had mental disorders, they just called imbeciles. And

700
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: so he wrote a lot about how, oh no, if

701
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: your kids an imbecile, you just gotta pop his back.

702
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: Like that's the problem with babies when they're not thinking, right,

703
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: is you gotta pop their backs. I'm gonna get back

704
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: onto that a little. They're going to go back to babies.

705
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: Why do they always go to babies? There's if you

706
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: if you want to practice medicine with no education or

707
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: ability to do so, eventually you're gonna start doing it

708
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: to babies because that's where that babies don't Babies can't

709
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: tell you if it's not working. Fuck. You can pour

710
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: bleach up a baby all day long, and adults eventually

711
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: going to be like, you know what, I think I've

712
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: had enough fucking bleach yea, And the baby is just

713
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: babies are just gonna take that bleach all day long.

714
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: You can bleach a baby from here to Kingdom. Come.

715
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: It's so messed up, m so messed up to look

716
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: at a baby and not want to take care of it. Yea.

717
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: It's part of me thinks maybe these people think they're

718
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: taking care. Some of them do. Some of them are

719
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: just narcissists. There's few ego where I want to say

720
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: the baby, and then there's other ones whore like well.

721
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: I think more than anything, we hope that they're humans

722
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: in there, and it's a little like I I don't

723
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: want to judge. I think I don't know. If I

724
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: honestly don't know, I DDE. Palmer is a good guy

725
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: or a bad guy. I think he's probably a piece

726
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: of ship. Um. I think he's probably a scammer. Medicine

727
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: was primitive enough in this period where like, you can't

728
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: totally blame someone for thinking crazy shit, but the ambition

729
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: he has makes him like to keep going the way

730
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, and it'll get crazier here. But let's

731
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: finish our little Many patients imagine that they have tried everything. True,

732
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: they have used many remedies, but they have never had

733
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: the cause of their infirmity adjusted, which is again, this

734
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: is one of the key aspects of chiropractics that like,

735
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: if you just get treated for your AIDS, that's not

736
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: going to deal with it. You gotta pop them fucking

737
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: vertebrate that's the cause or whatever aids in my vertebra. Yeah,

738
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: you get your fucking smallpox starts in the vertebra. Man.

739
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Life is but an express the expression of spirit through matter.

740
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: To make life manifest requires the union of spirit and body. Wow. Yeah, okay,

741
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: so we're into there. We can sell this in out.

742
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: This is I mean, you chiropractice and I was gonna say, yes,

743
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: that's they're already here. So he's saying it's quite a

744
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: fucking chiropractic is founded upon different principles than those of medicine, which, yeah,

745
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: I laid the foundation and built there on. Say that again,

746
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: of chiropractic, he called it a science. Okay, yeah, there

747
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: we go. So, uh, if you're wondering what Palmer meant

748
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: when he said that chiropractic was founded on different principles

749
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: in medicine, well, for one thing, he meant ghosts. Yeah. Yeah,

750
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: it's time for some fucking ghost spill away. Yeah, ghost

751
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: to ghost and play. Now I'm already, I'm already. He's

752
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: a bad persons. Play that machete. That's machete and the

753
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: one wonderful fine sponsors who make this show possible. I'm

754
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna hit this out too. In tin with machet, we're

755
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: going to go to ads. Here we go, oh products,

756
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: we're back in. Sophie and Billy Wayne are just talking

757
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: about the fact that, uh, as Sophie noted, this is

758
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: the first time we've talked about ghosts in a year

759
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: and a half of the show. Be a year and

760
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: a half, I think it's been closing in on a

761
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: year and a half, and you think that more of

762
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: these bastards would believe it goes, Yeah, you think at

763
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: least more of them maybe, you know, it's also a

764
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: lot of it's kind of the bastards I've selected. Maybe

765
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: I just haven't picked as many ghosts based drifters. That's true.

766
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: They've got to be there. I think they're probably. I

767
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: mean a lot of visions come from ghosts, a lot

768
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: of visions. And that's the story we're about to talk about.

769
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Because I didn't see ghosts coming, and I don't ever

770
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: see ghosts coming. Well, you do sometimes if you're looking,

771
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: if you got the site, if you're but like the

772
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: seventy five days, yeah, it's about right. That's in the ball.

773
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: But like the putting the spirit with medicine and popping

774
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: your back, I do like that theory, which is like, yeah,

775
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: I could probably like you said, it's a label ship.

776
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: It's like, your energy is a lot. I gotta get

777
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: your spirit aligned with your body, bra and your chakras.

778
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: Your chakra has got to be straight, bra. Well, it's

779
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: like I practice could only in yoga, and not as

780
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: much as I used to, But I do like it.

781
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot of breathing is what it is, and

782
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: it's great. Oh, it's very important. Well, and then I've

783
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: learned since practicing it. Like a lot of cult leaders

784
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: have used it because it it's mind altering. Yes, it is,

785
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: because of all the oxygen and stuff. So people think

786
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: that these people have powers and they're like, oh, that's

787
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: such a funny thing to do. Yeah, whenever somebody makes

788
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: you feel something like that, maybe try having that experience

789
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: without them around. Yes, test if their magic's first, exactly,

790
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: test it, test it. Yeah. It's like if you have

791
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: a really good you just meet somebody right for the

792
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: first time, and like the first time y'all hang out romantically,

793
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: you take m dm A together. Maybe go take ecstasy

794
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: with somebody you hate and see help profound that experiences

795
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: before you decide that you're actually in love with that person.

796
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: Just ye really, just don't take ecstasy with someone until

797
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: you've been dating from one six months. Yeah, and you're

798
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: in a fight. That's how you have That's how it

799
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: was invented. Yeah, was through psychologist psychiatrist. Well, that's that's

800
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: that was the first use it took. It was kind

801
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: of think it was invented by accident by something. That's

802
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: what I means making ship like that's when they started

803
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: applying it to ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah it was

804
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: and it did work for a while. It's great. I

805
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: feel great, it's great. You know what you still suck? Now, Man,

806
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't like that thing you do. If therapists all

807
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: over the country could just prescribe him being made to people,

808
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: we wouldn't need fucking chiropractors. I'll tell you that in

809
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: diplo would be way more popular, would be huge. Okay,

810
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: so um yeah, let's talk about how ghosts helped invent

811
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: chiropractic medicine. That's what I thought. That's why I came

812
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: here to one ghost, just one, just one ghost. I

813
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want to make it sound silly

814
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: by pretending that there's just like a bunch of ghosts

815
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: inventing chiropractic. There's a single ghost that invented chiropractic. He's like,

816
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: don't maybe he sound like a dick. And it's the

817
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: ghost of a dead doctor. Fuck yeah, I mean that

818
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: means it's it's it's just that means it's credible. They

819
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: just they put it in fifth. A dead doctor wouldn't lie. No,

820
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: not a dead doctor that stuck around to pass this

821
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: information along. Yeah, he'd been dead more than fifty years. Yes, yeah,

822
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: it's a mission. So this doctor dead doctor, doctor Jim

823
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: Atkinson apparently came to D. D. Palmer during a seance. Uh.

824
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: And that's where he claims he learned most of the

825
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: rules of chiropractic medicine. Yeah, I'm gonna read an excerpt

826
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: from his autobiography, which was published after his death in

827
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen. I want to interrupt you real quick. Okay,

828
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: if you would have if I was on like one

829
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: of these shows where it was like you've never heard

830
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: of this story, right, aversion and of how you think

831
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: chiropractor was invented? Yeah, and I'm a comedian, so I

832
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: would come up with something stupid and outrageous. I would

833
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: never would never say ghosts. Never could that pop in

834
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: my head. No, this was one of those ones like

835
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: I started looking into this and like it was already

836
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: pretty baddy, like yeah, and then like fucking ghosts. It's

837
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: that's like I can't. It's like it's like with Trump

838
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: where you're like, we'll be funny about it. I can't.

839
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: I can't be funnier than ghost invented medicine where you

840
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: pop your back. Fuck. Yeah, I'm just gonna listen. I'm

841
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: just gonna listen. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna read that

842
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: from his autobiography, quote the knowledge and philosophy given to

843
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: me by Dr Jim Atkinson, who had again been dead

844
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: by fifty years, an intelligent spiritual being, together with explanations

845
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: of phenomena, principles resolved from causes, affects, powers, laws, and utility,

846
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: appeal to my reason. The method by which I obtained

847
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: an explanation of certain physical phenomena from an intelligence in

848
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: the spiritual world is no an in biblical language as

849
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: inspiration and a great measure. The Chiropractor's Adjuster was written

850
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: under such spiritual promptings. That's the book that was like

851
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: the foundational text of chiropractic appealed to my reason. Yeah,

852
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: appealed to my reason by talking to me as a

853
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: ghost during a silence my reason. That ghost was pretty

854
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: fool as shit. I don't think I've ever heard somebody say, like, yeah,

855
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: a ghost told me to do something, But that ghost

856
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: was a fucking liar. I mean, it was like, come

857
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: back with actual reasons. Ghosts and then I'll listen to you.

858
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: I kind of want to see that movie where like

859
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: a ghost starts trying to like warn somebody about like

860
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: the future, or like just like like starts trying to

861
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: lift but he's just dumb as ship. Like, it's just

862
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: the ghost of a really dumb person. Nightwears. He's got

863
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: a great joke. People gotta drink more bleach. He's like,

864
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: if I went back in time, I couldn't warn people

865
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: or even explain how future is. Like, well, look at

866
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 1: this phone. They're like, wow, how's it working. It's like ship,

867
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: this is pretty cool? All right. It's like I would

868
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: just be a guy with cool stuff. I know what

869
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: I do. I'd go back to like nineteen ten, and

870
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: I'd moved to Europe, and I'd create a cult all

871
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: about assassinating Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Oh, because then he'd never die. No,

872
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: he would not know, he would not have died, and

873
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: then maybe we could have stopped World War One and

874
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: that would have prevented World War two. Probably, no, Hitler, Yeah,

875
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: you've thought this. That trip to Mexico was worth it.

876
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: It was I figured out how to save the world.

877
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm just got a crowdfund time machine now, and I

878
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: think in order to make that time machine, I'm gonna

879
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: need to spend a lot more time researching. In Mexican pharmacy,

880
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I think one of mall in pharmacy you can pick

881
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: up hydrocoda on their ghost doctor told me that. Yep. So,

882
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: the founder of chiropractic medicine claimed that a great deal

883
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: of the discipline was revealed to him by the ghost

884
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: of a long dead doctor he contacted during a seance.

885
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: That's the quick summary here. Now, the term chiropractic itself

886
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: literally means done by hand. Since the whole idea behind

887
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: the discipline had come from an all knowing ghost, there

888
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: was no research or study. Indeed, Palmer's early chiropractic medicine.

889
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Once he'd identified the cause of all human ailments, the

890
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: subluxated bones, there was nothing else to do but teach

891
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: people how to pop those bones back into place. Someone

892
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: go chiropractically an orgasm that you actually can do. No,

893
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: I've done it, I don't know. So I should note

894
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: here that subluxation, which is a term that you'll hear

895
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: a lot from chiropractice today, is in fact a real thing.

896
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: The actual medical meaning of the term is uh. It's

897
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: basically term from what a joint in your body has

898
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: popped partly out of its socket, and this can damage

899
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: tissues around the socket, but it cannot, for example, cause deafness.

900
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: But chiropractice to this day claim they can fix and

901
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: feel vertebral subluxations by hand, and that these subluxations cause

902
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: roughly of the ailments suffered by people, depends on the

903
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: chiropractic There's different kinds now, some of which reject a

904
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: lot of this um, but like, yeah, that's the initial

905
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: idea behind the science, is that like like or so

906
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: percent of human ailments are caused by sublixations which you

907
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: can just fix by feeling round. I think we would

908
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: have figured that out. Yeah, Yeah, it's not that hard.

909
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: As chiropractic medicine and its founder aged it shifted and morphed.

910
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: This was helped along by D. D. Palmer's son B. J. Palmer,

911
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: who got involved in his father's work near the beginning

912
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: of the movement. Like his dad, b J had worked

913
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: as a mesmerist before getting into back medicine like my

914
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: father and am also full of ship. He'd also worked

915
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: for the circus. Yeah, he's an accomplished, accomplished it's a

916
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: whole family alive did the work. According to Science Based

917
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: Medicine quote. He was reported to state, when I saw

918
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: there was no use for a sympathetic nervous system, I

919
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: threw it out and then just had to put something

920
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: better in its place. So I discovered direct mental impulse.

921
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: BJ also discovered a non existent duct of Palmer connecting

922
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: the spleen to the stomach. In ven b J engineered

923
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: a hostile take over his father's school to hiropractic. Yeah.

924
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: Different people will say that, like it was more amiable

925
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: or that it was more ugly. Some people say he

926
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: paid him two thousand dollars. Some people say he's stiffed

927
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: him out of all the money. It's kind of unclear

928
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: what happened. So usually then that means it's not what.

929
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't good. It wasn't good. It was very acrimonious.

930
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't get along. Yeah. B J. Palmer

931
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: set the tone that would later dominate the field of chiropractic.

932
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: He emphasized salesmanship, advertising, and practice building. He was highly

933
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: critical of medicine, stating that m D stands for more death.

934
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: He continuously sought new methods for increasing revenues, such as

935
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: is neurocalcometer, which would pinpoint subluxations by measuring skin temperature,

936
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: and he decreed that must be rented from him by

937
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: other practitioners at exorbitant fees. Why is he so against

938
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: any actual medicine because it works? You can't keep bringing

939
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: people in for the same problem if they're doing stuff

940
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: that helps. I I see so. But to me, like

941
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: even the scam would be like a smarter scam would

942
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: be like you're applying both. Yeah, I think that's what

943
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: they do now that that is what they do now

944
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Um. It's also part of the

945
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: problem is that, like a real honest doctor, sometimes they're

946
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: just gonna tell you you can't do anything. Yeah, you

947
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: got this problem and it sucks, and it's always gonna suck.

948
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Like maybe you're some mitigated but there's no cure in it.

949
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Like why am I sore every day night because you're

950
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: been alive for forty Yeah, you've been alive too long. Man.

951
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: Nobody's supposed to live more. Supposed to have your kid

952
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: at nineteen and push him off into the world at two.

953
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: I had one at twenty eight and then we just

954
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: had one. But I do, I do think you should

955
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: to a uh so um. Under B J. Palmer's reign,

956
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: chiropractic expanded, growing ever larger and sucking in ever more

957
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: ambitious young doctors who felt the jabbing around someone's back

958
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: was a hell of a lot easier than going to

959
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: actual medical school. You have to remember a lot, You

960
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: have to learn a long stuff, blood and ship. They

961
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: want you to know it and not just remember it too. Yeah,

962
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: they want you to actually know things, not just make up. Yep.

963
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: It feels like that's the cancer part of the back

964
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: that needs fixing. Pop, you're done. That's what you get.

965
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: You just get get good at making that sound. D. D.

966
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Palmer continued to act as a figurehead of the movement,

967
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: and his writings remained influential, but b J ran the

968
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: show from around nineteen o seven on forward. Now. From

969
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of the movement, chiropractors called themselves doctors, and

970
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: in the eighteen nineties this was not much of an

971
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: issue because the difference between doctors and doctors was pretty minimal.

972
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: In fact, since many legitimate licensed m d s back

973
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: then fed their patients mercury and heroin, cough syrup. Many

974
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: people would have been better off in the hands of

975
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: a guy who was just going to give them a

976
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: back massage. But this state of affairs did not persist.

977
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Along in the early part of the twentieth century, medicine

978
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: began to professionalize quickly, spurred on by developments of things

979
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: like vaccines and antibiotics. They clearly worked much better than

980
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: just pushing on somebody's vertebrae, as you might have expected. D. D.

981
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: Palmer railed against many of these developments. He became an

982
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: early anti vaccine advocate, writing that quote, it is the

983
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: very height of absurdity to strive to protect any person

984
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: from smallpox or any other malady by inoculating them with

985
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: a filthy animal poison. No one will ever pollute the

986
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: blood of any member of my family unless he cares

987
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: to walk over my dead body to perform such an operation.

988
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: And we had to, yeah, and we had to. Thankfully

989
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: the smallpox got him. His son B. J. Added in

990
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: nineteen o nine, chira practice have found in every disease

991
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: that is supposed to be contagious a cause in the spine,

992
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: and the spinal column will find a subluxation that corresponds

993
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 1: to every type of disease. If we had one cases

994
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: of smallpox, I can prove to you aware and one

995
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: you will find a subluxation, and you will find the

996
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: same condition in the other ninety nine. I just want

997
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: to return his functions to normal, and you could do

998
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: the same with the other ninety nine. Well, I mean

999
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: it is this, it's that scam from where there's like

1000
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: a kernel of truth, where there's like the central nervous

1001
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: system is throughout the spine, so there's a lot of that.

1002
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: You can alleviate certain types of pain because the slip

1003
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: disc and things like that. You could let people feel

1004
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: better diseased. Ship is not it doesn't go no, No,

1005
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: smallpox starts in the spine. I'm not even a doctor.

1006
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: But it's just like knowing it you don't know. I

1007
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: think it's so important. Yeah, but if you're gonna be

1008
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: a great grifter, the key is that you just pretend

1009
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: you know everything you don't know, and you don't listen

1010
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: to anyone who says otherwise. It seems fun. It does

1011
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: seem fun, does it seems if you didn't love anyone,

1012
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: if you were either incapable of that or just like

1013
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: had got no point in your life where you're like,

1014
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: fuck it, Like if you ever see me hawk and

1015
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: brain pills. Yeah, that's what's happened is I've just given

1016
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: up on my fellow man and have decided to cash in.

1017
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: And I am proud to announce my new job as

1018
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: a columnist for the Daily Wire and I will have it.

1019
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: So if you threw a pin at me ever expanding

1020
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: church somewhere in the South, oh man selling bleach magnets,

1021
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: just backrubs in Jesus. Yeah, you gotta say all that

1022
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: really is the king of all grifts. It well what

1023
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: you described when it hit me when you said the

1024
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: son came in and moved out to the father's Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1025
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: it's the same thing that happened. And learned how to

1026
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: produced television in college and then was dad and he

1027
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: was like, Dad, move, you're too old. I got this

1028
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: and he's good at it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.

1029
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Can't fall the guy on his grifting. He's exceptional. He

1030
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: is my favorit. If you don't know about Joel Alstein,

1031
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: he's the guy who had tens of thousands of square

1032
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: foot of immaculate space in the city of Houston when

1033
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: a huge chunk of that city flooded and many people

1034
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: were made refugees, and he made none of it open.

1035
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: They just got a new carpet. They just they had

1036
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: just gotten. You don't want people on that carpet. And

1037
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: about people a church, like a big church, we're talking

1038
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: about the arena where the Houston Rockets used to play. Yeah,

1039
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: that s where I think Jesus would have done the

1040
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: same thing. That's yeah. We all remember in the Bible

1041
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: when he came upon some poor person with dirty feet

1042
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: and was like, I'm not gonna wash your feet there,

1043
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: gross as hell, And I got new carpet. I just

1044
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: thanks is new, Yeah, and I won't have to get

1045
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: classic Jesus prosperity really hated dirty people from Jesus. Final

1046
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: one thing about Jesus, it's he did not like refugees.

1047
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: He's like, it looks like my dad wanted you to

1048
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: be poor. So the sermon on the mount that fuck

1049
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: you got mine. So as medicine grew more professional, more

1050
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: and more states began passing laws that created stricter requirements

1051
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: for licensure as a medical doctor. B J fought against

1052
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: these requirements politically wherever he could, but his father picked

1053
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: a different tactic for protecting chiropracty from government meddling. He

1054
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: started pushing the claim that, rather than medical science, chiropractic

1055
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: was a religion and thus utterly immune from any state oversight.

1056
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: He's not dumb, He's not dumb. No, he's not done.

1057
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: That's a solid play. God. Yeah, I didn't realize it

1058
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: had started as a religion, ghost religion. Yeah, it's like, yeah,

1059
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm not even mad at him. It's damn Yeah. You

1060
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: gotta respect a guy. You can zig and zag like,

1061
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: that's mean. He has hurt and he's probably promised. He's

1062
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: hurting a lot of people. Yeah, and I was going

1063
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: to say, he's not really just popping their back, but

1064
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: he's giving people a false hope. That Yeah, that is

1065
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: damn it an zag zagging the tip of the hat. Yeah.

1066
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: The earliest evidence we have of the shift towards treating

1067
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: chiropractic as a religion is a letter that D. D.

1068
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: Palmer wrote to a colleague, P. W. Johnson in April

1069
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: of nineteen eleven. I should note before reading this so

1070
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: it makes sense that D. D. Palmer frequently referred to

1071
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: himself and his writings as old Dad. So when you

1072
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: hear Old Dad, he's writing about him. O. L. D.

1073
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: Weird Old Dad. Well, he's from the north. Okay, okay,

1074
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: yours of April at hand. It contains an interesting and

1075
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: financial question, one which I think Old Dad hold the

1076
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: key of Stop right now and read two sections in

1077
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: the this enclosed circular on pages two and eight, marked

1078
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: and see if you cannot grasp the way out that

1079
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: which I see we are coming to. I want you

1080
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: to study these two items marked. The same ideas are

1081
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 1: in my book, although not put out quite so plain

1082
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: as found in these two sections. I occupy in chiropractic

1083
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: a similar position as did Miss Eddie and Christian science.

1084
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: Miss Eddie claimed to receive her ideas from the other world,

1085
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: and so do I. She founded there on a religion,

1086
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: and so may I. I am, all caps the only

1087
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: one in chiropractic who can do so. Ye. Old Dad

1088
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: always has something new to give to his followers. I

1089
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: have much written for another edition when this one is sold.

1090
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: It is all caps strange to me why every chiropractor

1091
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: does not want a copy of my book. Now, when

1092
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: you refirst to miss Eddie, he's talking about Mary Eddie Baker,

1093
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: the founder of Christian Science, which is another religion that

1094
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: focuses around spiritual healing and refusal to accept basic medical help.

1095
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: So Dannie Palmer saying like, I'm just gonna do what

1096
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: that lady did, and it's like it's really transparent the

1097
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: way he writes it out too. Like he even says

1098
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: she claimed to receive her ideas from the other world.

1099
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: I claim that too. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna claim that

1100
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I have that claimed it as well. Also the idea

1101
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: that he's going to publish the new edition of the

1102
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: book making these claims when the last edition of his

1103
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: book on chiropractics sold out. But smart, Yeah, he's old

1104
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: dad is of folksy. That's a smart All these dudes

1105
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: are just brilliant marketers. Yeah. They call him Papa Cairo

1106
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: sometimes too from Egypt. Ye. So if you like that one.

1107
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: Um d D would go on to write in this

1108
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: letter that rather than pushing for laws to specifically established

1109
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: chiropractic medicine as a legitimate branch of medicine, chiropractors to

1110
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: just seek exemption from any laws based on the fact

1111
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: that chiropractic is a religion quote exemption clauses instead of

1112
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: chiro laws by all means, and let that exemption be

1113
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: the right to practice our religion. That's all caps. But

1114
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: we must have a religious head, one who was the founder,

1115
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: as did Christ Mohammed, Joseph Smith and Miss Eddie Martin

1116
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: Luther and other who have founded religions. I am the

1117
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: fountain head. I am the founder of chiropractic and its

1118
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: science and its art, in its philosophy, and in its

1119
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: religious phase. Now, if chiropractors desire to claim me as

1120
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: their head, their leader, the way is clear. My writings

1121
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: have been gradually steering in that direction until now it

1122
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: is time to assume that we have the same right

1123
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: too as Christian scientists. I am the prophet. I am

1124
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: the prophet. I'm like Mohammed, but with popping backs, and

1125
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm here to save the world. That's his Yeah, that's

1126
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: really what he's going for. I'm with you, head injuries. Yeah,

1127
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: I might have a factor. Although he's really pretty cunning

1128
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 1: about this. I kind of think that that letter proves

1129
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: that he actually was seeing this pretty clear headed. Will

1130
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: that move to be like this is a religion, that's

1131
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: a religion. Medicines turning into a real thing. Now, religion yeah,

1132
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: where his kids whisper. You know when we always saw

1133
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: like like he made a scientology pivot like a century,

1134
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: well not a century, but like seventy years before Scientology did.

1135
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: But he recognized that real quick, very quickly, that like

1136
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: this is the future for American grifting. It's just calling

1137
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: whatever crime you committed religion. So it's fine. Well, I

1138
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: think they've been doing that since the start. Yeah, but

1139
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: in a different way I think, or not at the level. Yeah,

1140
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: not not not quite like this. It's the ambition that

1141
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: sets you apart. Yeah, it's the ambition that sets you apart. Now.

1142
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: I found this note hosted on Cairo dot org, which

1143
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: builds itself as a chiropractic research organization. They should key

1144
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: you went on the fact that modern day chiropractors do

1145
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: not exactly wholeheartedly reject the idea that their discipline, which

1146
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: is usually just built as another medical specialization, is actually

1147
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: a religion. In order to make this case authoritatively and

1148
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: establish a bright future for chiropractic with himself as spine

1149
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: cracking Jesus did, Palmer began to work on a book

1150
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: he believed would be his masterpiece, The Chiropractor. He finished

1151
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: this work but before he could edit and publish it,

1152
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: he died, possibly because his son murdered him with a car.

1153
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: We don't actually know, yeah, yeah, the truth he remains

1154
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: heavily debated to this day. What is beyond debating is

1155
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: that d D and b J had not gotten along

1156
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: for years. The father never forgave this on for carrying

1157
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: out a hostile takeover of his chiropractic college. The son

1158
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: seems to have been a dick and maybe a sociopath

1159
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: who was disliked by basically everybody. The b J murdered

1160
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: his dad. Side of the story starts with the annual

1161
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: parade of the Universal Chiropractors Association, held on August. We

1162
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: know that after the parade, d D. Palmer rapidly sickened

1163
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: and eventually died. Three different witnesses swore affidavit's that d

1164
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: D's illness was caused by his son striking him with

1165
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: a car. Probably knocked his back into lack given cancer.

1166
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: That would give you cancer. Yeah. One witness wrote this

1167
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: in a court affidavit. I saw Mr b J. Palmer

1168
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: coming down the street in his automobile, hitting him d

1169
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: D and continuing to shove him towards the curving. If

1170
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: it appeared to me that Dr D D. Palmer was

1171
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: being hit as he was and as hard as he

1172
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: was by the automobile, he must have been thrown to

1173
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: the ground and run over. Dr D D. Palmer was

1174
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: very excited and stated as he started for his house,

1175
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to call up the police and see if

1176
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,479
Speaker 1: i can have protection, as I am afraid of my life.

1177
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: So that's one of the witnesses saying that he was

1178
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: hit by a car. But of the three eyewitness account

1179
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: all are slightly different. Some say he was hitting the back,

1180
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: some say in the leg. And for what it's worth, R. C. Smith,

1181
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: the marshal of the parade, offered the most detailed recitation

1182
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: of events. This recitation does not blame b J for

1183
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: the murder, and it instead makes it look like D. D. Palmer,

1184
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: which just a catankerous old asshole who insisted in marching

1185
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: at the head of the parade and probably kind of

1186
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: walked himself to death. Yeah. Yeah. As I was lining

1187
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: up the marchers, I noticed Dr D D. Palmer was

1188
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: attempting to lead the parade and I went up to

1189
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: him and taking him by the arm, stopped him and

1190
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: attempted to lead up the streets, saying, this will be

1191
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: a long walk before we return, and you will be

1192
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: very tired, and it will be better for you to

1193
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: go up and get into one of the faculty autos

1194
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: and riot taking it easy and let us young fellows

1195
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: do the walking, or words of similar import This apparently

1196
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: pleased him for the moment, but in an instant he

1197
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: broke loose from me and said, damn the faculty, I'm

1198
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: going to lead this parade. He became very abusive, and

1199
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: I let him over to the sidewalk from the center

1200
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: of the street. In a few minutes, he made another

1201
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: effort to lead the parade, but I made him desist,

1202
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: and as I stepped up to the band of musicians

1203
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: who start the parade, I noticed that Dr B G.

1204
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: Palmer's car was slipping out of line to the left

1205
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: side of the street. When I again d D Palmer

1206
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: in the street lead of the procession, and I again

1207
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: ran up to him and taking him by the shoulders,

1208
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: started pushing him to the west side of the street

1209
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: and sidewalk, and as I looked over my shoulder, I

1210
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: discovered that B. J. Palmer's auto was coasting close to us,

1211
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: and I gave D. D. Palmer a shove and got

1212
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: him out of the way of the cars. It slipped by.

1213
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: It struck me with the fender before b J could stop.

1214
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: The car did not touch, said D. D. Palmer, nor

1215
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: was it closer than four or five feet from him

1216
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: at any time while he was on the street. Governor

1217
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: Morris was in the auto at the time that had happened. Again. D. D.

1218
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: Palmer hurried to the sidewalk and then entered the Argyle Flats,

1219
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: and the parade proceeded down Brady Street, and on several

1220
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: occasions D. D. Palmer attempted to get at the head

1221
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: of the marchers, but returned to the sidewalk whenever I

1222
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: hovered in sight, until we arrived at a near Fifth Street,

1223
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: when he led the parade for about half a block

1224
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: until I came towards him, and then went on the

1225
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: sidewalk and did not attempt to lead again. At Third

1226
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: and Brady Streets, D. D. Palmer again went to the

1227
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: center of the streets and talked to the traffic officer,

1228
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: who told him to go onto the sidewalk and keep

1229
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: out of the street. I further swear that I invited

1230
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: Dr D D. Palmer several times to write in an auto,

1231
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: but he persistently refused. He seemed too obsessed to get

1232
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: to the front and lead the marchers. No other place

1233
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: in the parade would answer his ideas as to his place.

1234
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: He was very abusive at the time. I escorted him

1235
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: away from the front of the band. I mean it

1236
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, it checks out. That sounds like his

1237
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: ego the whole time he was he was just a dick. Yeah,

1238
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: And it sounds like, no, I'm the best, No, I

1239
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: have to be in charge of this, yes, which is

1240
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: like that. It sounds like he was an old man

1241
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: who overstrained himself marching. And then some of his followers

1242
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: later blamed his son on the murder, although his son

1243
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: gave enough reason to be like, because he was a

1244
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: piece of ship and an asshole and clearly hit someone

1245
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: else with his car that day, So it's not like

1246
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: there's a good guy. People did get hit by a

1247
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: car at them. You hear that story, right, I mean,

1248
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: it sounds like everyone is probably telling the truth on

1249
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: some level. Yeah, his son was like I did hit him. Yeah.

1250
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 1: It's like one of those stories when you hear about

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Speaker 1: like two neo Nazi leaders of an organization, one claiming

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Speaker 1: that like the other embezzled and the other claiming that

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01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 1: the other embezzled from company funds. And it's like, yeah,

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: he probably both did believe I believe you both scum.

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: But you know who's not scumb Billy Wayne Davis. The

1256
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: advertisers who support this show could be with their dollars

1257
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: is the Koch Brothers. Well yeah, then they suck. Yeah,

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: they should probably get some spinal adjustments. Maybe. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they have it. I think they have a spine.

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01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: It's the people they buy, you, don't They definitely have

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Speaker 1: a spine and whatever will know. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: from what I've read about them, they're they're very in

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01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: your face about what they believe. I would I will,

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: I will hit them on a number of things. But

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Speaker 1: they are not spin more as like an alien not

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01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: having an actual spine. Yeah, alien would be a good

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01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: not like. No, they're confident in Daniel's looking at us,

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01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: wondering when this ad transition is actually going to turn

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Speaker 1: into add time. Sorry, at some point, Nanial, at some

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Speaker 1: point it now, what's back my I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I'm opening it that way. We just went out for

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01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: break for a minute, and I thought it was the

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Speaker 1: second episode. We're just coming back from ads. I have

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Speaker 1: decided what this machette looks like, Billy Wayne Davis? What

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01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: is it? If the Orcs and the Lord of the

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01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: Rings had won the war and then modernized into a

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01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: liberal democracy, this is what all of their swords would

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01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, mass produced the mass produced, nice little

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: orange grips. They're not trying to be all scary anymore.

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01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: Stainless steel because it's easier to keep clean. Fisker sounds

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01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: like an Orc word. Still looks kind of cool, yep, yea.

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, if they had wiped out the Elves, there'd

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01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: be a bunch of Orcs in five years who like

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01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: all dressed up in cosplateis elves and like you know,

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01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: like Orc burning Man. They'd have a lot of like

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01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: elf religious wear and stuff that like they wouldn't know

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: they were using it in an offensive way, but they'd mean, well,

1288
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: just having fun, just fun, just having fun. What I'm

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01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: saying is that America is what happens when the Orcs win.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it, just what happens when anyone wins,

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: and then they keep winning. Yeah, because of all the

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: all the wedding guns. Yeah, it helps. So b J

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: was never convicted of killing his father, and the preponderance

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01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: of evidence seems to suggest that Deed Palmer's death had

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his son. It probably had more

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: to do with bad salmon and his refusal to accept

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01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: basic medical care. I was gonna guess that he probably

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01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: didn't take care of himself health wise. Yeah, he ate

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 1: some food and he got an infection, and then he

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: refused to take actual doctor's advice on what he should do.

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01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: I'll just walk it off. I'll just give him a

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01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: back popped. I mean, I'll pop my own back. Where's

1303
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: your chair? I just need a hard, firm chair, and

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01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: I won't fix this. From a paper published by the

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01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: Institute of Chiropractic quote Luisa Lad, doctor of chiropractic, who

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: acted as a nurse to d D stated that he

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,480
Speaker 1: had proper medical attention and had he followed the instructions

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: of his doctors, he would be alive today. He disobeyed

1309
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: all directions, paid no attention to what they told him

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: to do or not to do. That's good that he

1311
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: died the way he lived. He died the way he lived,

1312
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: although because his doctor was a chiropractor, it's possible that

1313
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: their suggestions were as bad as what he would have

1314
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: done anyway, Oh for sure. But this was a real

1315
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: blind leading the blind sort of situation, literally and ironic,

1316
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: and he tried to save the blind. If they'd actually

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: been blind, he could just be good with back of

1318
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: the work and just can you I mean, that is

1319
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: your fight when you're just teaching poor medicine and then

1320
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: you are in the hands of the people you talked. Yeah,

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: you think it's kind of perfect because, like, like when

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: you said earlier, like there is like a a sign

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01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: that he was self aware of his ship a little bit.

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01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: So do you think when he's at the end, he's

1325
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: just like, talk them real medicine, son of it. This

1326
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: is really if I could admit what I've done, this

1327
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: is a really funny thing. But yeah, I do hope

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: he enjoyed the cosmic irony that situation he's got like

1329
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: fucking a col I or some ship like salmon ell

1330
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: I think is what I got written down is but

1331
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: he's like shifting himself to death in a bed and

1332
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: if everyone's talking about which Verdi read of pop like

1333
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: he's like, fuck, I did this. I did this. You

1334
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: know what? This one's on me. I believe I'm I'm

1335
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: okay with this. I did this. I died what doing

1336
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: what I loved, teaching people how not to be healthy.

1337
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: Just the same emotion you have when you you drink

1338
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: yourself into the worst hangover you had. You just wake

1339
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: up and you're well, this is on me. It feels

1340
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 1: like I made this happen. No one, there's no guns

1341
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: last night. This was on me. Yeah. D. D. Palmer

1342
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: died on October twenty, nineteen thirteen. The next year, nineteen fourteen,

1343
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: his Manifesto was published. In it, he laid out his

1344
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: theory of innate intelligence. Did he call it a manifesto? No,

1345
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: he called it the Chiropractor. It WO had been too.

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: It was essentially a manifesto. You nailed it. I was

1347
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: just curious if he knew. No. Innate is embodied as

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01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: a personified part of universal intelligence, therefore co eternal with

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01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: the all creative force. This indwelling portion of the eternal

1350
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: is in our care for improvement. The intellectual expansion of

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: the innate is proportion to the normal transmission of impulses

1352
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: over the nervous system. For this reason, the body function

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01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: should be kept in the condition of tone. Communication with

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01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: the eternal spirit, the Creator is the goal of all

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: religions cover some ground. God damn man, that's that's some

1356
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: impressive bullshitting on a level where lawyers are like, yeah,

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: this is part of his effort to reclassify chiropractic as

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01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: a religion. So that's what he starts claiming, is that,

1359
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: like he starts with being like, no, there's just healing

1360
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: power built unto your body, and like you're back, being

1361
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: fucked up stops it from getting to the right places.

1362
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: And now he's saying like this healing power is like

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01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: part of the innate intelligence that like you need to

1364
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: like free up to flow around your body and fix it.

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: This innate intelligent intelligence. But it's not that's part intelligence. God,

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: it's not intelligent enough to pop your spine back into place.

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01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: It needs some help, It needs some help. It's it's

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01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: hindered intelligence. I think I'm understanding his theories right, but

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01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: their nonsense. So that's what I was gonna say. There's

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01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: no way to you can try to understand what he means.

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: Daniel fell asleep. I'm casually rest of my eye as well.

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Speaker 1: You guys are having this conversation, you heard him store right,

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01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: So absolutely did. Absolutely it's because of his third vertebrate

1374
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: punches punches back, and his narcolypsy. Just for that, Daniel.

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01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: The next one we do is going to be about

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: Holocaust doctors fall asleep on that. So yeah, he wrote

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of crazy stuff about universal intelligence and innate intelligence.

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: I'll just read one other quote from the manifesto so

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01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: you can get kind of an idea of like what

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: it's like to read this thing. Let's say, where is this?

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01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this is all one sentence, and of course

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01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: it is. I believe that this intelligence is segmented into

1383
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: as many parts as there are individual expressions of life.

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01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: Semi colon that spirit, whether considered as a whole or individually,

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: is advancing upwards and onward towards perfection. Semi colon that

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01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: in all animated nature, this intelligence capitalized the eye, and

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01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: intelligence is expressed through the nervous system, which is the

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: means of communication to and from individualized spirit. Semi colon

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01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: that the condition known as tone is the tension of

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: in firmness. The renitzy, what the hell? The renitacy and

1391
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: elasticity of tissue in a state of health normal existence.

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: That semi colon that the mental and physical condition known

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01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: as disease is a disordered state because of an unusual

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: amount of tension above or below that of tone. Semi

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 1: colon that normal and abnormal amounts of strain or laxity

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01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: are due to the position of the osseous framework, the neuroskeleton,

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 1: which not only serves as a protector to the nervous system,

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: but also as a regulator of tension. Semi colon that

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: universal intelligence, the spirit as a whole or in its

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: segmented parts, is eternal in its existence. Semi colon that

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: physiological disintegration and somatic death or changes of the material only.

1402
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: Semi colon that the present and future makeup of individualized

1403
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: spirits to depend upon the cumulative mental function, which, like

1404
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: all other functions, is modified by the structural condition of

1405
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: the impulse transmitting nervous system. Semi colon that criminality is

1406
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: but the result of abnormal nervous tension. Semi colon that

1407
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: our individualized, segmented spiritual entities carry with them into the

1408
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: future spiritual state. That that which has been mentally accumulated

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01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 1: during our physical existence semi colon it spiritual existence like

1410
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: the physical is progressive. Semi colon. That a correct understanding

1411
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: of these principles and the practice of them can constitute

1412
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: the religion of chiropractic semi colon. That the existence and

1413
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: personal identity of individualized intelligence is continue after the change

1414
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: known as death, semi colon, That life in this world

1415
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: and the next is continuous one of eternal progression. Period. Wow,

1416
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: that's that is the most semi colons I think I

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01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: run into what he's done is he has That is

1418
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: how you transcribe someone someone's speech that's on cocaine. Yeah,

1419
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: it does sound like he's on blow right, And well,

1420
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: the semi colon is that, like, you know, I'm not

1421
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: done talking yet. I'm not done talking. Like he's got

1422
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: the main thought and then like forty sub thoughts and

1423
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: like he has to address each of the sub thoughts,

1424
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: but like by the time he does, it's so disconnected

1425
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: by the main thought that you can't figure out what then.

1426
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: And then instead of letting other people talk, he's just

1427
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: saying semicolon semicolons and putting his hand up. Yeah, oh man,

1428
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: because like while you're reading, because there's also a rhythm

1429
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: to what he's the way he's written it, which is interesting.

1430
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: I just noticed, Billy Wayne this this is groundbreaking. If

1431
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: you think about how a semi colon looks, it kind

1432
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: of looks like a nose because you've got the two holes.

1433
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: But then there's that line of cocaine trailing out on

1434
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: one of the nostrils. That's what the semi colon means.

1435
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: It's subconscious, No, it is. Yeah, you're exactly just taking

1436
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: a sentence to go and then and then. That is

1437
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. I'm not not talking. I'm not

1438
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 1: not talking. After his dad's death, b J. Palmer continued

1439
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: to develop this theory of innate intelligence. I'm going to

1440
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: quote now from a Huffington's Post article on the Man.

1441
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: According to be J. Palmer, chiropractic has no use for

1442
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: a quote deity to which we can direct instructions of

1443
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: how to run the universe, or a soul, to say,

1444
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: from oven or from Hell. Asking do chiropractors prey in

1445
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: a book by that title, b J answered that no

1446
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: chiropractor would prey on his knees or in supplication to

1447
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: some invisible power, because innate intelligence within man is the

1448
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: all wise omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Director General who asserts that

1449
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: the only possible cause and cure are within man. See

1450
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 1: it is that thing of like I believe on some

1451
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 1: on some level of what he's saying, where you know,

1452
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: we're all in control of our decisions and we and

1453
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: the cause and solution of all human problems are held

1454
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: within the human brain. Not in the way to which

1455
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: like you can just push someone's spine back in, but

1456
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: like you can ever, we could solve every illness if

1457
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: like people directed their intelligence long enough and unconsciously, you

1458
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: get to solve the energy problems, political problems that people

1459
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 1: just like got their ship together funk out. And maybe

1460
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: that's a religious belief in a way kind of in

1461
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: the same way that Star Trek the Next Generation is

1462
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: a religious belief. It is. Yeah, but where he got

1463
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: where he loses me and they all lose me is

1464
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: like the general you're your own general, where it's like

1465
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: they immediately start pitching, yeah, her selling, where you're just

1466
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: like no, you can be like, hey, it's like the

1467
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: whole point of the Book of Judas, you know, they

1468
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: left that out because it was like supposedly it was

1469
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: just so much about this. What Jesus was about was

1470
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: just being like, no, no, you're your own God. You're

1471
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: in control of who you are. No one else can

1472
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: control you. That's like, and this sygnostic ship you're popping

1473
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: out now. I mean, I don't know if I believe

1474
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: it or what, but if I've always found that theory

1475
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: of what that book is fascinating because they kept it

1476
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: out because it's teaching people to control their own thoughts

1477
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: and not listen be under control, So they wanted that

1478
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: shift fun out of there. That makes sense. So that

1479
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, there's a little bit of that in here,

1480
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: And I like, obviously he's not the only one preaching

1481
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: stuff like this. Like the nineteen twenties, there's a bunch

1482
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: of kind of esoteric religious traditions going around, some of

1483
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: which would turn into Nazis, some of which turned into

1484
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: run Hubbard like a lot of a lot of Yeah,

1485
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: the rest just wound up in hot yoga. Now, despite

1486
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: all the work done by b J and his dad,

1487
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: the government did not buy the line that being a

1488
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: religion meant chiropractors got to call themselves doctors and practice

1489
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: as if they were M. D. S Throughout the first

1490
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 1: half of the twentieth century, more and more states instituted

1491
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: licensure requirements for chiropractors. Many of them were quite fair,

1492
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: simply requiring that chiropractors passed the same basic medical science

1493
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: boards as medical doctors, which seems fair to me. You know,

1494
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: you're saying your doctors, all right, Well, you just gotta

1495
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: pass the same test. You know as much about the

1496
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: body as a doctor. You get very fair. That's how

1497
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: it worked for a while. Between nine and nineteen fifty eight,

1498
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: six percent of medical students successfully passed these basic board exams.

1499
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: Only of chiropractors could m m m m m. This

1500
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: created a massive problem for the discipline. They need to

1501
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: unlock that in night intelligence. Yeah, exactly, you didn't pobbly

1502
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: spine enough for you would have passed that goddamn board test. Idiots. Now,

1503
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: this created a massive problem for chiropractic because it led

1504
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: to hundreds of un licensed chiropractors fleeing to states without

1505
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: licensure requirements, and the vast number of non doctor chiropractors

1506
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: practicing ghost written religious back medicine caused some people to

1507
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: question whether or not chiropractic was even legitimate imagine. The

1508
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: solution that eventually evolved was the Doctor of Chiropractic degree

1509
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: for d C. Now, this is not an actual medical

1510
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: degree or even an actual doctorate. Instead, it's a four

1511
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: year degree which you can get it at chiropractic college.

1512
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 1: It doesn't even require a bachelor's degree first. The Palmer

1513
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: College of Chiropractic in Iowa, which is the school that

1514
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: doctor d. D. Palmer established, will give you a d

1515
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: C for the low low price of thirty four thousand

1516
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: dollars a year. They accept a hundred of applicants, like

1517
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: every legitimate medical school. Thirty four grand. Hey, man, duke's

1518
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: gonna cost that much. Yeah, and you don't get to

1519
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: call yourself a doctor after four years a duke. But

1520
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: it's not as hard as I was, like, well, what

1521
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,480
Speaker 1: is the point? You know what percentage of the applicants

1522
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: duke accepts? Not not literally anyone with a pocketbook. No,

1523
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: that I do not. Wow. Now it's only fair that

1524
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: I note that modern day chiropractors are very much mixed

1525
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: up about the ghostly origins of their trade. I found

1526
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: an article in the Journal of the Canadian Chiropractic Association

1527
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: by doctor of chiropractic Lawn Morgan discussing the problems the

1528
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: concept of innate intelligence causes for the field, Lawn writes, quote, today,

1529
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: innate intelligence remains an untestable enigma that isolates chiropractic and

1530
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: impedes its acceptance as a legitimate health science. The concept

1531
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 1: of anate is derived directly from the occult practices of

1532
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: another era. It carries a high penalty and divisiveness and

1533
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: lack of logical coherence. So it would be unfair for

1534
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: me to state to pretend like a lot of chiropractors

1535
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: aren't like, we gotta stop with the magic. Yeah, that's

1536
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: not gonna work. In twenty nineteen, however, a profession wide

1537
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: survey conducted in two thousand three called how Chiropractors Think

1538
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: in Practice showed that the majority of chiropractors still believe

1539
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: more or less Indeed, E Palmer's you of innate intelligence

1540
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: and of subluxations is the cause of much human disease.

1541
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: There is a subset and a growing subset of chiropractors

1542
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: who argued that they should just stick to treating back

1543
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: and spine problems. Yes, now, this is certainly more defensible

1544
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: than using chiropractic treatments to say, cure deafness. But even

1545
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: that is kind of dumb, because there's another two thousand

1546
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: three study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine that

1547
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: evaluated studies from two thousand three on the efficacy of

1548
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: different treatments for back pain. They found that simple massage

1549
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: offered considerably more therapeutic benefits than the spinal manipulations favored

1550
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: by chiropractors. So even for back pain, it's not that great.

1551
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: I played baseball for a couple of years at junior

1552
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: college and we had a trainer and the two years

1553
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: we had a different coach when I got there, but

1554
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: they're the guys the year ahead of us. They had

1555
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: a chiropract and they all love the chiropractor. And our

1556
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 1: trainer was like, you, guys, he just makes you feel

1557
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: good for like ten or fifteen minutes. He's like, he

1558
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: never fixed any of you. Yeah, And it was just

1559
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: this constant battle between these nineteen year old dudes. You're like, no,

1560
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: he's better, he's a doctor, and they're just like, I'm eighteen.

1561
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the guy that's been to school,

1562
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: you guys, And they're like, no, man, you don't know

1563
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: that chiropractor was great. Hey man, he's a four year doctor,

1564
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 1: just like Jesus, you guys. Almost as fast away of

1565
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: becoming a doctor is going to doctor reference school in

1566
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: Jamaica and porn bleach at people's butts or where was it.

1567
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: It's prettier there. Haiti is Haiti yeah Haiti? Now uh

1568
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: he gets worse. See Indeed, Palmer's Opus the chiropractor he

1569
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: wrote several times about how supplexations and infants and small

1570
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: children were often the cause of lifelong health health problems

1571
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: and what he called imbecility. This has led many chiropractors

1572
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 1: to believe that children should be treated with spinal manipulation.

1573
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,560
Speaker 1: Now I found a great science based medicine article that

1574
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: highlights how badly this can go. The title of the

1575
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: article kind of says most of it. Chiropractical manipulation of

1576
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: the neck linked to stroke in six year old child.

1577
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, yeah. Now I'm not a medical doctor, Billy Wayne,

1578
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: but I don't think six year old's normally stroke out.

1579
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: Sixty year olds. Now we're getting to be expected, but

1580
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: not six. Now. This case started with a young boy

1581
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: presenting with symptoms of a sinus infection. Instead of driving

1582
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: him to a real doctor. His grandfather took him to

1583
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: a chiropractor who fucked up his back so badly that

1584
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: it cost an embolism and a stroke in the six

1585
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 1: year old child, and chiropractors routinely work on even younger children.

1586
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: In a few seconds googling, I found a video of

1587
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: doctor of chiropractic Joshua Peter Smith of Peter Smith Family

1588
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Chiropractic in Missouri. In the video, he adjust the spine

1589
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: of a twelve week old child. Now we're gonna, we're gonna,

1590
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch this bad mama jam. I'm not sure

1591
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: how much of it will watch, Billy, but you gotta

1592
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: see this guy listening. You'll have to hear this kid.

1593
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: So if you want to describe what you're watching in

1594
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 1: the video up until the kids starts, megan the noises

1595
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: the kid's gonna make. I think that will make for

1596
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: a solid podcasting experience. No, I'm not ready. He's got

1597
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: a little baby twelve weeks old as an again, it's

1598
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: his is it his baby? Holding it up by one leg,

1599
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: upside down and just sort of bouncing the baby upside

1600
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: down being held by a single leg. Now he's holding

1601
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: it by two legs. Now he's holding it by wanted

1602
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: this since it doesn't just hold it upside down. He's

1603
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where it has to be adjusted.

1604
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 1: And now he's manipulating the baby's spine. So a little

1605
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: Naomi here is a little over eleven weeks old, and

1606
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: her spine is no different than anyone else's. So if

1607
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: her the tab bone of her neck is actually slid

1608
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: to the left, how I adjust her is a little

1609
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: different than anyone else. But the doctor, in grand scheme

1610
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: of things, I'm doing the exact same thing all who

1611
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: was pushing that bone right back to the middle, letting

1612
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: the body do whatever it needs to do, put it

1613
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: exactly where it needs to be. So it's a little

1614
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: it's a lot less forceful. It's very very gentle with her,

1615
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear how gentle. It isn't a seen

1616
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 1: all this collogue issues go away, So where colleague is

1617
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna go away? Don't do it. He's stupid. Fuck, it's

1618
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: just baby's thrashing. I don't stop. Yeah, it's probably enough.

1619
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: So it's pretty obvious to me, not being a doctor

1620
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: of chira practy, but being a person who's watched babies

1621
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: before that what he's doing to that baby isn't good. Well, no,

1622
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: I have a six month old. Like their body is

1623
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: constantly forming and evolving every single day. So to go

1624
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: in there and be like, oh, this vertebrates a little loft,

1625
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: that's why he's colocky, Like, that's not how that works.

1626
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: Also to say that an eleven and a half week

1627
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: old baby's spy and it's the same as an adults,

1628
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Like they don't have all their bones yet. I don't

1629
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: know when they get all their bones or wouldn't they

1630
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: come in, but I know they don't get their bones

1631
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: top of their skull. Yeah, it's an infant fuck just

1632
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: like I mean, I think it's the dad and may

1633
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: watching that video is like like the get your hands

1634
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: off that baby really Like there was like a violent

1635
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: part of me that was like alarming where it's like

1636
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: stop doing what you're doing or I'm gonna have to

1637
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: kick you. Yeah yeah, like because he's down on the

1638
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: ground at one point, like I'm gonna kick you till

1639
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: you let at that baby that I don't want to do.

1640
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: It's not okay, God, not okay. Now. The article that

1641
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: initially inspired this episode was a piece I found in

1642
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: a website it quite like called the Outline, titled chibropractors

1643
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: are Bullshit, It discusses a Charlatan named josh As and

1644
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote from that piece now. On his Facebook page,

1645
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: acts a self described board certified doctor of natural Medicine

1646
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 1: who earned his doctor and chiropractic from good old Palmer

1647
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 1: College of Chiropractice. As you which sunscreens are safe and

1648
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: dispenses snack suggestions. Need a sweet snack that won't unravel

1649
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: your health goals? We have you covered, he writes, linking

1650
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: to a dark chocolate almond butter recipe that contains, by

1651
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: my estimate, more than nine calories depending on how much

1652
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: coconut sugar. The posts on access page run the gamut

1653
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: from minor bullshit like healthy recipes, to major bullshit like

1654
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: the pernicious claims that you can reverse cavities. You can't

1655
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: and watch this guy giving mental advice, and that you

1656
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: can treat some painful and potentially dangerous bacterial infections like

1657
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: U t E s and staff with essential oils and

1658
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: anti viral herbs. Again, not so much. He also writes

1659
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: that living a life of purpose can lower dementia risk.

1660
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice? Well, it might not concern you

1661
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: that a physician with nearly two million followers on Facebook

1662
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 1: is spending his time posting recipes for face wash. It

1663
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: should pique your curiosity. These telling people he's never met

1664
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: they should purchase his products to support any number of conditions,

1665
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: from leaky gut syndrome not real to aging his bone

1666
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: broth collagen formula now available in chocolate will set you

1667
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: back thirty seven dollars. That's a funny word. Support. It's

1668
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: legal speak for this product is bullshit. Beyond his line

1669
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: of snake whils, it should absolutely scare you that Acts

1670
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: has written articles espousing his anti vaccine views while speaking

1671
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: glowingly of anti vax queen Jenny McCarthy's pediatrician. Oh everything

1672
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: you said, Yeah, it's real bad, right, It's it's like

1673
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: you like, there's so many I can't even it's just

1674
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: levels of bullshit. I I try to picture what they

1675
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: do every day when they wake up, you know, like

1676
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: you and I knew what we're gonna do today. Yeah,

1677
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about chiropractic. And I didn't know it

1678
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be swinging around and that that has been

1679
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: a welcome surprise. I knew that was gonna happen, but

1680
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: we knew what we're gonna be. There's like substance to

1681
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Yeah, there's is like, how can I

1682
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: come up with more horseship? More horseship for money? But

1683
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: where does it? Because they've made so much theoretically, theoretically,

1684
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 1: where does it? It's not about money, and that that

1685
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: dr Ax guy seems like a grifter to me. I

1686
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,879
Speaker 1: don't know this Dr Peter Smith, the guy who's adjusting

1687
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: the baby. You look at his face in there, like,

1688
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: is he just a fucking sociopath or is he someone

1689
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: who really thinks he's a doctor? Well, I think it's

1690
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: it's the same, like because it's based in religion. Yeah, religious,

1691
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 1: it's susceptible to people who think that everything they do

1692
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: is for the Lord and for this, you know, it's

1693
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: the same Westboro for innate intelligence. Those people think they're

1694
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: doing everything for the right reasons, like the God hates

1695
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: fags people. Yeah, how the human brain is fascinated. It's

1696
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: a playground, Yeah, just the playground. Now. That Outline article

1697
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: also covers the sad story if Playboy model Katie May

1698
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen, she died of a stroke after

1699
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: visiting her chiropractor. A two thousand seven study established, yeah,

1700
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: well that's actually that would have been a lot healthier. Yeah, yeah,

1701
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: because two seven study established a strong link between chiropractic

1702
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: manipulation and the risk of strokes caused by what's called

1703
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: vertebral artery, the section which would happen to that little

1704
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 1: kid like pop someone's back forcefully enough that it severs

1705
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: an artery, then they stroke out. Now, it's hard to

1706
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: say what the annual death told you to chiropractic medicine

1707
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: actually is. I found a two thousand ten study in

1708
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: the National Institutes of Health studying all the deaths they

1709
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 1: could find that immediately followed spinal manipulation by a chiropractor.

1710
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 1: The abstract notes under results twenty six fatalities were published

1711
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: in the medical literature, and many more might have remained unpublished.

1712
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: The alleged pathology usually was a vascular accident involving the

1713
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: dissection of a vertebral artery, which is again the most

1714
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: common fatal side effect of chiropractic The article's conclusion states,

1715
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: numerous deaths have occurred after chiropractic manipulations the risks of

1716
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: this treatment by far outweigh its benefit. Are there any

1717
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 1: good reasons to do? It? Makes me feel good? I

1718
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: mean I got to there's a tie lady that walks

1719
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 1: one in its frog hair. Yeah, now, I think a

1720
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 1: lot of it is that a lot of the chiropractors,

1721
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: it's the same problem you have. Like a lot of

1722
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: the anti VAXX doctors were like, they're the most charismatic doctors.

1723
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Like that guy who was popping that baby's back, good

1724
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: looking young guy. I'm sure he has an incredible bedside

1725
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: manner and he has a deep voice in the cadence

1726
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: he's spoken. That was the first thing I noticed was

1727
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: this very confident I know what I'm talkingfident calm hand

1728
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do. I'm a cool dude. A

1729
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: lot of real doctors because they're actually practicing medicine, they're

1730
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: very busy, they're very stressed out, they don't sleep enough.

1731
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: A lot of them have substance abuse problems because they

1732
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: have very stressful, difficult jobs. They can be less than

1733
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: friendly because say they're working at an e er or

1734
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: something like that, they're dealing with too much of a

1735
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 1: workload because there aren't enough real doctors and the insurance

1736
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: on top of that insurance filing stuff with the government,

1737
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: whereas this guy is just a liar, so he gets

1738
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: to be calm all the time. So you're real doctors,

1739
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: like you got one of two things. You gotta do

1740
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: this test at this test, I gotta go on to

1741
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: do something like this, like go take this and get

1742
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: this next test, and I'll tell you what we need

1743
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: to do do next. And he's like, it's scary because

1744
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: you're already sick and he's not really taking the time

1745
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: to help you because he's got other ship to do.

1746
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: And this guy sits down with you and he talks

1747
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: with you and he explains how no, I can fix

1748
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: your baby's colic, just let me pop it spine, and

1749
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: you're like, cool, yeah, it sounds great. Yeah, you called

1750
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: me down and you wear a nice turtleneckcuts. It's like

1751
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: when I got my weed card when I first move

1752
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: to the l A, the guy had a wrinkled lap cut.

1753
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: That does not evoke confidence from a medical professional. It's

1754
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever seen it. I can't make it.

1755
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: It's just more funny. Conversation was like, huh, I've never

1756
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: seen that before the best thing about the old way

1757
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: we'd used to work in Los Angeles is that it

1758
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: was clearly like a retirement program for doctors who either

1759
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: were on the edge of getting disbarred from like killing

1760
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: somebody on the operating table, or were just too old

1761
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: to work anymore. I had both of them. I had

1762
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: a younger dude where I was like, what did you

1763
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: don't you got a baby? And then there's the old

1764
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: guy with like he's just like barely awake, like I

1765
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: had one doctor were like he had a picture on

1766
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: the wall where he couldn't even focus long enough for

1767
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: the picture. He looked like he was falling asleep for it.

1768
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: And then his assistant tried to skype us in to

1769
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: talk with him, and he didn't pick up skype twice

1770
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: and she just sports sick. So I got my wheat card. Beautiful.

1771
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 1: I miss it, Billy. It is so much easier, man,

1772
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 1: I got one. I lived in Seattle, Washington, had a

1773
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 1: Seattle I d I was just down here doing sets,

1774
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: meeting with some people. Walked with my friend who had

1775
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: lived down here for two years. We were on venice

1776
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna try to go get

1777
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: a wheat card. In this place, you could see the

1778
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: ocean from the doctor's office, and the guy and the

1779
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: lady she started. She was being kind of shitty to

1780
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: me at first because I had some out of state

1781
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: I d and she was like, what are you here for?

1782
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, I'm a stand up comedian.

1783
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: She was oh, I just started doing open mic and

1784
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: then just started checking stuff without even looking. When she

1785
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: figured out I could help her, I told her where

1786
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: to go to do some comedy stuff and walked out.

1787
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: My friend was like, what the hell here for two years?

1788
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 1: I was like, I've been here for a day, dude,

1789
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: Let's go get some weight. One of the first guys

1790
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I met in l A is a friend of a

1791
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: friend and he was in the Marines and he got

1792
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: shot in the leg, and he like legitimately was using

1793
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 1: pot at the time in part to like deal with pain.

1794
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 1: And he had his medical examination with the doctor and

1795
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 1: the doctor just looped him in with another patient who

1796
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: happened to be in the room at the time, who

1797
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know anxiety, Yes, it's like

1798
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: you're both the same. To me. Let's gunshot wounded anxiety

1799
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: as much body as you can garry the overscribe it

1800
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: to your boat. The old man I went to, like

1801
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: you were talking about who was just it was pure retirement.

1802
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to be like, how

1803
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: much are they paying you to do this? Oh? They're

1804
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: making they made bank. He had a poster on the

1805
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: wall that had all the ailments, so he was like

1806
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: he and he was so lazy, just like which one is?

1807
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: He just pointed out pick on the window? What your

1808
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: problem is? Man? America is pretty fun. And that's the

1809
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: kind of quack medicine I like where you just pay

1810
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: fifty dollars to have a doct to say, literally any problem.

1811
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: The prescription is however much pot you can pay for us.

1812
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: That's it great. Not let's pop a twelve year old

1813
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: spine or twelve week old spine. Ah well, Billy, that

1814
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: was fun. The episode's over. You know what that means.

1815
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna pop that for brief. I'm gonna hit this

1816
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: for breeze. Now, Billy, I'm gonna want you to I'm

1817
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna want you to open the poison room and then

1818
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want you to duck to the side as

1819
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: quick as you can sow. Now, Sophia is there an

1820
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: outside wall? Or is this gonna go sailing into the

1821
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: parking lots? Up? You're fantastic. Okay, this is officially safe.

1822
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: Sophie approves, give me, I don't approve hell Fell that

1823
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: time ship. I'm I'm gonna throw it horizontally. Does that

1824
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: make sense? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Oh or it's

1825
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: hard to do that. It's hard to do that, I think,

1826
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: because what we're doing you really have to serve it

1827
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: up yourself a nice love and slash. This one's gonna charm.

1828
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: Oh got it? Yeah? Kick it in there, kick it

1829
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: in there, billy. I do think that I would be

1830
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: fun with it. Basically in Time's letting me have explosives. Understand.

1831
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that worked out well. I thought it

1832
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: worked out better than chiropractical medicine does. Still going, I

1833
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: should try to start selling machette medicine, machete machette your

1834
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: way to health. What's sad is that any of these

1835
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: griffs you and I would try, we would be way

1836
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: more successful than any of our other endeavors in our lives. Absolutely,

1837
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: like what happened? How did you get successful? So we

1838
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 1: just started lying, here we go, Here we go? I

1839
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: figured out. I figured out my my manifesto for Machettison. Now,

1840
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: we've all seen two thousand one of Space Odyssey, the

1841
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 1: documentary film that shows us how human tool you started.

1842
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: Watch from that movie there was some monkey picks up

1843
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 1: a large bone and start swinging it. Human beings evolved

1844
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 1: to swing large heavy things with one arm. The problem

1845
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: with modern society you never have a large heavy thing

1846
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 1: in your arm. The answer to that the machete. If

1847
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: you're always carrying a machete, Billy Waite, and always swinging it,

1848
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: then you're vertebrate align properly, which clears the wound chakras

1849
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: out and removes the sickness subluxations from inside your gallbladder.

1850
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: The germ spirits, the germ spirits. The machete scares away

1851
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: the germ spirits by balancing your body. So for just

1852
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:42,839
Speaker 1: four cents, you can receive an official Macheteison, licensed medical machete.

1853
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 1: It is a lot, but we need you to be serious.

1854
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: We need you to be serious, We need you to

1855
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 1: take its investment. It's investment in your health. And you

1856
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: know what, Billy, I'm in a good mood today. So

1857
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: along with that machete. For four I'm going to throw

1858
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: in a book, Hack Your Way to Better Health for

1859
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: how much? For free free. That's just coming on there

1860
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: for free. So we get the machety, you get the machete,

1861
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: and then we get a book. This Hack your Way

1862
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: to Better Health tails us how to use the ship.

1863
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: You've heard about body hacking. This is just straight up

1864
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: machete hacking. And it'll cure your cancer. Oh it's like botox,

1865
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: so it'll support your cancer treatment, support it, support it.

1866
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: I like support supporting. Just that feels better than treat

1867
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: is support. Support a lot to feel supported. We all

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Speaker 1: like to feel some brawl for your cancer. Let this

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Speaker 1: machete be a brawl for your cancer. We do have

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Speaker 1: them available in Spanish and they are called machette. They are,

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Speaker 1: and we have them available for infants. Yes, for an

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Speaker 1: extra you can get our special babies machete, which is

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Speaker 1: the same as our adult machete, but pink just like Well,

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Speaker 1: I think we've sold. I think we've got people trying

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Speaker 1: to find the wedding. That's why you're upset with this,

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Speaker 1: because we're doing a pretty good job to say. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get yacht money and leave this podcast behind.

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Speaker 1: I'm just disappointed. I just want to turn the channel.

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Speaker 1: We're on three channels right now. Yeah, so Billy want

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Speaker 1: to plug your plugable. The President just made me the

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Speaker 1: director of Health and Human Services. I mean, that's not

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Speaker 1: even funny a cabinet position. I feel like I could

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Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, since I've been holding this

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Speaker 1: machete virtually the whole epistent that to him, you might

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Speaker 1: be the he might be the Secretary of Defense Orange,

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Speaker 1: I see something I like, Billy, Wayne, I just I'm

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Speaker 1: about to I'm working on putting together a tour for

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Speaker 1: the fall in the winter, so BWD tour dot com.

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Speaker 1: And I worked on the new season with Squidbillies, which

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Speaker 1: is on Adult Swim right now. So check that out.

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Speaker 1: That's such a perfect show for you to be working on.

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Speaker 1: It was a dream. Did not feel like work? Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I did not work on the new season of

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Speaker 1: squid Billies. I did one have an altercation with a squid,

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Speaker 1: but that's a tale for another day. The website for

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Speaker 1: this podcast, the sources for all of this episode are

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Speaker 1: on behind the Bastards dot com. You can find us

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at at bastards pod. Uh you

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Speaker 1: can buy T shirts at T Public Behind the Bastards,

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Speaker 1: and of course you can machette your way to better

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Speaker 1: health by going to www. Klondike five four five eight,

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Speaker 1: Machettison today and again Michettison, as of course, smelled like

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Speaker 1: it sounds