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Speaker 1: at it and let's talk about last night, shall we,

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Speaker 1: and what went down with all of the action from

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Speaker 1: Round one of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: And gentlemen, we do have the Las Vegas Raiders on

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Speaker 2: the clock. They finished three and fourteen and twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five last in the AFC WES this season, they've replaced

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll in company with Clink Tubiac fresh off calling

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Speaker 2: that Super Bowl for the Seattle Seahawks. They also have

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Speaker 2: the Max Crosby deal accepted reverse, and they really agency

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Speaker 2: kind of in between there. Their team needs, of course, quarterback,

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Speaker 2: wide receiver, offensive tackle, and defensive tackle. This is one

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Speaker 2: of their ten picks in this draft. Andy, Obviously, Fernando

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Speaker 2: Mendoza is going to be the pick. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: would all have to think. But my question to you is,

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Speaker 2: how do you see him from a fantasy standpoint, whether

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those situations where I got

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Speaker 3: to know what that receiving room looks like, you know,

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Speaker 3: so it is just very difficult to spin immediately. I

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Speaker 3: like Mendoza. I think maybe a ceiling projection for Mendoza

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Speaker 3: looks a little bit like I don't know, Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Do people consider that an insult? I don't mean like

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Speaker 3: Like I think Mendoza is very Legit certainly looks the

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Speaker 3: part a work ethic guy, like everything about him. It

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Speaker 3: is the worst collection of wide receivers that I can

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Speaker 3: is a bad receiving room outside of Bowers, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they have we you know, we know they have an

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Speaker 3: they they need a lot, but this receiving room is

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Speaker 2: And they have an earlier second round pick, Derek where

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, And yeah, look you look where the Raiders

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Speaker 5: one of the strengths of this draft class, depending on

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Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of guys in that round three area,

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Speaker 4: That's a great point. That a certainly great point.

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Speaker 2: You still have guys like Stefan Diggs if he's going

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Speaker 2: And Derek looks like we do have to pick in here.

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Speaker 2: Lots of hugs, lots of congratulations there in the Raiders room.

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Speaker 2: When do you expect to see Fernando Mendoza this year?

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Speaker 2: Is this something that you expect Kirk Cousins to maybe

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Speaker 2: do you think it is Fernando from the jump.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's Fernando from the jump. I think

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Speaker 5: that the Raiders have been very diligent. Brady's talked about this.

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Speaker 5: I think we're gonna see Kirk Cousins and depending on

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Speaker 5: I think the big thing for Kirk Cousins, and how

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Speaker 5: there's an easy outcome where we easily could see, like

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Speaker 5: Mendoza gets Patrick Mahomes in his rookie season. So is

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Speaker 5: that like the median outcome? No, but it's a possibility.

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Speaker 5: I easily could see it happen. I think a lot

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Speaker 5: They're not going to rush Mendoza. There is no pressure

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Speaker 5: nothing is really off the page here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and the pick is in and it is Fernando

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Speaker 2: Mendoza quarterback out of I you maybe one of the

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Speaker 2: best stories not just in college football in the past decade,

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: He takes Indiana University two national championship. Kurtis Signetti, a

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Speaker 2: Iup coaches him there. He comes from Cal six five

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Speaker 4: Andy.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's any way that Fernando can flop

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Speaker 2: he should have a successful career.

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Speaker 3: I think the only way that he would flop is

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Speaker 3: if the team really fails him. Right, Okay, they don't

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Speaker 3: don't protect him the way they should. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: it doesn't even it's not a criticism of Mendoza to say, Wow,

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so sometimes that is that is a difficult

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Speaker 3: sophistic de caidd stuff like that's That's the funny thing

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Speaker 3: to me about kirk Cousins being there is that Mendoza,

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Speaker 3: So we don't we don't see him early in the season,

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Speaker 3: we don't see him at all. But I think he's

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love everything he's got going on between the helmets. Man,

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Speaker 4: And Fernando Mendoza so great story.

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Speaker 2: And yes, I believe it is Jeremiah Love running back

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Speaker 2: wow name Okay making the uh making the big splash here.

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Speaker 2: This is really a home run hitting prospect, a media

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Speaker 4: But what does it mean for fantasy? What does it do?

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Speaker 2: Because it kind of takes the value of not only

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Speaker 3: What a what a wild ride for Tyler Algier? In

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Speaker 3: exactly sure, Jerry Rady comes in, impresses he didn't he

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Speaker 3: that and now he is greeted by Jeremiah love who's

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Speaker 3: really good. I don't I'm not really settled on the

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Speaker 3: issue of you know, I know that Jeremiah love didn't

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he can't do it. I think

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Speaker 3: A little bit unfortunate for Jeremiah Lovell. I still think

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Speaker 3: rookie running back as consensus. So I may not get him.

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Speaker 3: But still I still see why he should be ranked inside.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, is it the top twelve now is

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Speaker 3: think Algier is going to play, and I think Algier's

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Speaker 2: So de bro we've had him outside the top twenty

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Speaker 2: And we're seeing right now in the chat mister grimm

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Speaker 2: all the alge years shears he has acquired pour one

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Speaker 4: Three, depending on the day.

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Speaker 2: One ninety two strong wide receiver two role for the

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Speaker 2: Whether it was Jeremiah Smith arguably one of the best

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Speaker 2: how do you like to fit and what does this

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I'm loving this because I gave

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Speaker 5: I'm here for it. You need to surround cam Ward

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Speaker 4: Out of him?

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Speaker 5: So like now they're going to field like a starting

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Speaker 4: Andy.

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Speaker 2: I do like this fit for Cam Wore. I think

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Speaker 4: So does this.

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Speaker 2: Maybe complicate matters a little bit for Carnel Tate as

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Speaker 3: If if Wandale Robinson is the guy guy who really

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Speaker 3: I like this a lot because I I kinda I mean,

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Speaker 4: But like his dad was tweeting about it, his dad

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Speaker 4: That's ready he did.

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Speaker 3: But like I thought, he was sneaky good and I

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Speaker 5: Cam Moore will be the basically everybody's sleeper quarterback this year.

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Speaker 5: Andy Wright, Yeah, he's going to be. He'll be the

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Speaker 3: I think that's exactly right. And he's not you know,

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's gonna draw the parallels to Caleb Williams and stuff

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Speaker 4: Be prepared.

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Speaker 2: I will say to just take Carnell Tait potentially like

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Speaker 2: It is Jordan Tyson, as we were kind of alluding

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Speaker 4: Derek A pleasant reaction from you. You're a little bit

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Speaker 2: I think consensus has been on Tyson as a prospect,

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm I'm I was lower on Tyson as

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Speaker 2: Does that mean that Jordan Tyson might come in somewhere

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Speaker 4: Does that sound about right to you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: I think he compliments a lave really well. And I

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Speaker 3: is a this is a pretty good one too.

440
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really really he's probably like a wide receiver

441
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 5: three ish type. Yeah, as redraft rankings, I kind of

442
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 5: like off the cuff. I kind of feel like that's

443
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 5: where he's going to be in that like wide receiver

444
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 5: like late twenties, high thirties range and redraft.

445
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's going to be.

446
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 3: You know, ideally with a player like this, a rookie

447
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 3: like this, you'd want to say, well, as long as

448
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: I can draft him as somebody who I don't absolutely

449
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 3: have to start, I think you're gonna have to get

450
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 3: a little uncomfortable with the price. I think you're gonna

451
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 3: have to draft him in a spot where you're he's

452
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 3: probably a locked in starter for you. He's probably your

453
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 3: third wide receiver. He's probably a flex. But I again,

454
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Speaker 3: I think it's a pretty rich environment. I think it

455
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 3: is a very well constructed offense, just in terms of

456
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Speaker 3: the skill position players and how they're gonna compliment when

457
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: each one another. I think it's a great landing spot

458
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Speaker 3: for him.

459
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Speaker 5: So well, that's a good that's a good call out too,

460
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 5: because you know, the first ridiculous catch he makes in

461
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,959
Speaker 5: training camp, hype video season, he's gonna bump him up

462
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 5: like another round or two. Well, we know how.

463
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Speaker 2: This goes, guys well, and we've seen like Kellen Moore

464
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: get the career started of some really great wide receiver

465
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Speaker 2: ceed Lamb when he was back in Dallas.

466
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Speaker 4: He's resurrected the career.

467
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Speaker 2: Then have Keenan Outen a couple of years ago in

468
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and then Chris o'lave a year ago.

469
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Speaker 4: I will say with this though he did.

470
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Speaker 5: Crush QJ though, like, let's be honest about that third.

471
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Speaker 5: Sure he should crush QJS.

472
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 2: Let's keep it a buck here, fair point, fair point

473
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: to add to his resume. I will say, though, I

474
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: think now this makes like Chris o'lave like completely off

475
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: my board. He was already kind of like at the

476
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: price where I thought you were paying for him out

477
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Speaker 2: of ceiling. And if that price, like I'm sure it

478
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: will come down a little bit, but I mean he

479
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 2: was a late second round picking draft again and like

480
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: that was always the ceiling.

481
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 4: For Chris o'lave. I've I've fought with this.

482
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Speaker 2: Over a couple of beers with Pat Fitzmore's a few

483
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: times at the expo, Like I think that's right. I

484
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: just feel like now we might still be paying that.

485
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: And the pick is in it and it is Tye Simpson,

486
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: quarterback out of Alabama, And I so wish I bet

487
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Speaker 2: this because this is my This is what I thought

488
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: from the very beginning. Well, I think, like the interesting

489
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 2: thing here is like you look at Ryan Grubbs offensive

490
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: system and it's always been a bit hit or miss, right,

491
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: and there's like no denying that, Like this was one

492
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: of the worst.

493
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Speaker 4: Rushing games in the country.

494
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Speaker 2: Man, Like like they Jam Miller, he came back late

495
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: in the season, he got concussed early when he came back,

496
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: and they still never really had it. And you watch

497
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: like to Iron Bowl, and Ty Simpson willed them to

498
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 2: that win. Ends up finishing in the SEC this past season,

499
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: leads them in pass attempts, completions thrown for over thirty

500
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: five hundred yards twenty eight total touchdowns as well, And like,

501
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't think the arm is elite, Derek, but I

502
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: still think there's some really good things going on here

503
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: with ty Simpsons, specifically between the helmet. I've said it

504
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: on the NFL Draft Show. If he lands with the Rams,

505
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Speaker 2: he is a top five, top six pick and rookie

506
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Speaker 2: draft because what he can do. In Sean mcvay's offense,

507
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Speaker 2: I think the ceiling is a limit. This is a

508
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: dream landing spot.

509
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Speaker 5: Well, y'all could take him. I don't want it. Like

510
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 5: I understand betting on the Rams and betting on all

511
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 5: those things. The other thing that we can discount. Okay,

512
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 5: how do you feel about that pick if when Stafford goes,

513
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 5: Sean McVay also goes, and he goes to the broadcasting booth,

514
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 5: because can we rule that out? I don't think we can.

515
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 5: We've heard that rumored like how many different years in

516
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 5: a row. So I think this could set the Rams up. Well,

517
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Speaker 5: that's if they hit on this pick. Like, I just

518
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 5: think there's so many glare red flags, like you know,

519
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 5: and I know Alfredo was higher than I am, Like

520
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 5: I was just not a fan of his film, like

521
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 5: even before the back injury, like I thought it was

522
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 5: up and down. I thought his ball placement was Okay.

523
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 5: I think that, you know, the belief in Ty Simpson

524
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 5: is more of what he has between the ears and

525
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 5: you know, as a processor and things like that, then

526
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 5: as far as like as a talent. So I just

527
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 5: I look at all the glaring red flags about Ty Simpson,

528
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 5: the short starting stuff like the stature, the injuries, everything

529
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 5: in between, and the fact that he fell off down

530
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 5: the back half of his only starting season. If this

531
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 5: works out of the Rams, kudos, I still think it's

532
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 5: an absolutely horrible pick.

533
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Speaker 2: Alfredo, tell us what you're seeing in Ty Simpson that

534
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: maybe our friend Derek Brown is that he's certainly thrown

535
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 2: some pretty good wide receivers, the Jeremy Bernards, the Ryan Williams,

536
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: even though he regressed, and of course Isaiah Wharton.

537
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Speaker 4: So what do you think he brings to the Rams offense?

538
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Speaker 7: Yeah? I actually there looks like they're gonna be posting

539
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 7: it now just the moment. I just wrote a whole

540
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 7: scouting report on Ty Simpson for Reception Perception, which will

541
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 7: be up very soon, totally free for everybody. One of

542
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 7: the things I talked about is that, like a lot

543
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 7: of a lot, there's maybe too much ado about his

544
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 7: fifteen starts, because fifteen starts at Alabama is a lot

545
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 7: different than fifteen starts anywhere else where. He's running a

546
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 7: lot of pro concepts. He's getting the opportunity to be

547
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 7: under center, he's getting the opportunity to call protections at

548
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 7: the line, of scrimmage. He's able to really, i mean,

549
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 7: do a lot of things that are pro concepts that

550
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 7: you don't typically see. I mean, let's talk about how

551
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 7: he's won. He's a great fit for this McVeigh offense.

552
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 7: He's great throwing on the run, being able to run

553
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 7: some actual play action, to be able to hit dagger concepts,

554
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 7: hit the backside dig that's something that we didn't see

555
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 7: a lot from a guy like Fernando Mendoza, who really

556
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 7: struggled over the middle of the field, and that's something

557
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 7: that we typically see. I'm saying all these things because

558
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 7: when a quarterback like this, he doesn't have a lot

559
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 7: of starts he gets in a training camp. Well, now

560
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 7: he's got to learn how to take a snap from

561
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 7: under center. He's got to figure out that footwork. He's

562
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 7: got to get better at throwing on the run. He's

563
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 7: got to be better at throwing and hitting over the middle,

564
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 7: beating zen own coverage. Ty Simpsons saw his own coverage

565
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 7: more than any other quarterback in the FBS. So he

566
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 7: is a guy that despite the starts in the surface

567
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 7: level stuff, there are so many other things underneath that

568
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 7: you go actually the fifteen starts at Alabama is kind

569
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 7: of like twenty starts or twenty five starts at a

570
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 7: lesser school that didn't quite do all the same things

571
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Speaker 7: that he got to do there.

572
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Speaker 2: Do you think you'll keep him right in that five

573
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: six discussion for your Superflex rookie rankings, Alfredo?

574
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean to me, the vote of confidence from

575
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 7: not only Sean McVay and the RAMS organization, but the

576
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 7: fact that they had traded away their other first round pick.

577
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Speaker 4: Yeah that's it. Yeah, that's it.

578
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 7: Like they know, they know that this is the guy

579
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 7: that they are investing in. It's definitely vindicating on my

580
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 7: end being someone who liked the film. Deebro, I know,

581
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm I'm.

582
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Speaker 8: No, that's fun.

583
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: He get pushed back like I. I look, if we

584
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: turn over the cards and I'm totally wrong in two

585
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 5: to three years, I will eat the L totally happily

586
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 5: eat the L like I just you know, and I

587
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: like the back and forth like because different processes. Man,

588
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 5: one of us is gonna be right, and when it's

589
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 5: gonna be wrong, it's totally fine.

590
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: However, we do have the pick in and the guys.

591
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Speaker 2: It turns out that a little bit of a shocker

592
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: here it is tight end Kenyan Sidik out of Oregon.

593
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 5: So Mason Jets, baby gents are gonna yeah, is this

594
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: coffin nail for Mason Taylor?

595
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: Like, honestly, I think it's it's a real it's a

596
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 4: real question.

597
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Mark Sadik a very fun prospect, a guy that actually

598
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: comes from a little town out in Idoh had to

599
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: actually transfer to a different high school just to get

600
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: his eyes some scouts eyes on him. But really had

601
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: a nice twenty twenty five breakout season fifty one receptions,

602
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: five hundred and sixty yards and eight touchdowns that helped

603
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: guy Dan Lanning's team to a deep college football playoff run,

604
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: eventually losing to Indiana in the Peach Bowl. And I'll say, what,

605
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: man like Sadik fell off a little bit at the end.

606
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 4: We had Johnson really kind of come up.

607
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: But I think with what he did at the combine,

608
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: Kenyan Sadik and you know, just that blazing four point

609
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: three to nine second forty, the nine point five eight

610
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: raz it makes him feel like he kind of is

611
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: this guy who could do something at the next level.

612
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: Alfredo, what are your thoughts.

613
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: On Kenyan Sadik as a prospect and then separate that

614
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: from the landing spot we just found out about.

615
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 7: So Kenyan Sadiq was my tight end two, which I

616
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 7: know is a little controversial in this rookie class. I

617
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 7: just I didn't see a guy who was fully developed

618
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 7: as a tight end. And I know we love the

619
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 7: relative athletics score and that is always necessary when we

620
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 7: want a good tight end, especially for fantasy. Yeah, he's

621
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 7: a better blocker that I think people give him credit for.

622
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 7: But I didn't see a guy that had very clean routes.

623
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 7: I didn't see the guy that had the proper ideal

624
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 7: spatial awareness that I typically look for. That's a big

625
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 7: thing for me when I'm when I'm looking at pass catchers.

626
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 7: If you don't know where you are on the chessboard

627
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 7: and what you're supposed to be, I don't typically love that.

628
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 7: And then I think too is especially just a transition

629
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 7: to what this landing spot is. Now you're going to

630
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 7: the jets. It's exactly what I just said. It's the

631
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 7: flash without the substance right now, like like they are

632
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 7: they're putting Tabasco sauce on a ham and cheese sandwich,

633
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 7: just like that's they go out and they draft the

634
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 7: tight end that runs a four to three, and it's like,

635
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 7: but you had you had a tight end last year.

636
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 7: You got him in the second round last year, and

637
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 7: then you're like, hey, gino, Smith's gonna take us to

638
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 7: the Promised Land. I don't understand it. He's going to

639
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 7: remain my tight end too, uh in this rookie class?

640
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 7: I I don't love it?

641
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: Are you also stours over Sabeek? Guy? Yeah?

642
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: That entire conversation.

643
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Yet, Oh my goodness, Yeah.

644
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that. Derek.

645
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: What is your thought process behind this pick for the Jets?

646
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Because for me, it kind of just feels like that

647
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't want Ty Simpson here at sixteen and

648
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: they're a little you know, jumped out of the room

649
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: that the rams went up and got him. So what

650
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: are your your thoughts here? Do you like the fit?

651
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: Do you not like the fit? You seem a little distraught.

652
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 5: This is idiotic, Like this is absolutely idiotic, which I

653
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 5: guess is par for the course for the Jets, But like,

654
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 5: why in the ever love and hell did you draft

655
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Speaker 5: Mason Taylor with a second round pick and he was

656
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Speaker 5: just sharter and you believe in him and you're gonna

657
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 5: go draft Kenyon Sadik, Like, basically, you're just saying last

658
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 5: year's pick, we're just burning that, toss it in the

659
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: trash can. And this is what it comes down to.

660
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: When everybody has all the hope and the hype of saying, hey,

661
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: this team has all these picks, they're gonna be good,

662
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 5: except when the team is stupid and they suck, then

663
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 5: they're gonna burn all the equity. I feel, man, I mean,

664
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 5: but seriously, I'm not even a Jets fan, but I

665
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 5: feel for Jets fans here, Like, there are so many

666
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: other places you can go with this pick that makes

667
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: sense for where this roster is what you need here,

668
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 5: Like take a wide receiver, take a cornerback, even take

669
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: it for Colton Hood. Fine, all of that a tight end.

670
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: When you invest in a second round pick in one

671
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 5: last year? What are we doing here?

672
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 6: Man?

673
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 5: Like, what in the evelve and hell are we doing here?

674
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: Just grab age, shove him in a freaking basket and

675
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: fire him into the sun. Forget this, burn it down,

676
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 5: forget this whole season, forget all the picks. The GM

677
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 5: is garbage. I'm sorry for Jets fans. This is horrible.

678
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, All of a sudden, Alfred, it's

679
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: making you and I look like some of the smart

680
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: analysts in the building because I think now, depending on

681
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: where that we do ultimately see Eli Stowers land right

682
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: now the over under for his draft position forty and

683
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: a half and get it about plus two hundred right now,

684
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Speaker 2: So good odds if you want to take that anything,

685
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: maybe someone does reach up for stours. However, like I think,

686
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: now this complicates matters for Sadiq, not only short term,

687
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: but it's also not like the Mason Taylor is a veteran,

688
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: right this is a guy who just was drafted last season.

689
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Speaker 2: As Derek Is continued to go on about.

690
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean what they're probably going to be doing

691
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 7: here is Mason Taylor's gonna be your classic in line

692
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 7: y tight end, and you're gonna have Kenyon Sadik be

693
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Speaker 7: the move guy and be sort of the h back

694
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 7: the John hus Smith. And that's been like one of

695
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 7: my comps for him as well. Joe Effett was another

696
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 7: comp that I had for Kenyon Sadik, and I just

697
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 7: that's where we're going to be.

698
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: It's going to be.

699
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 7: Another Isaiah likely. That's a lot of fun has some athleticism,

700
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 7: and then you're just like, well, where are the big games?

701
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: So avoid him in rookie drafts. That's all I heard, Alfred. Yes,

702
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 5: there's I was already I mean, but seriously, like, this

703
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 5: is one of those picks that if you were like

704
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 5: me and you were like, hey, like the rookie drafts

705
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: might not be like this. I have hope for this class.

706
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: Like this is one of those landing spots and picks

707
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Speaker 5: where you're just like, well, crap, if you got the

708
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 5: one O eight in your league or the one O

709
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 5: nine or something like that. Now you're just like, well,

710
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: that's lovely cool. Except it's not, and it's horrible, And

711
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: now I want to throw up Peoper.

712
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 7: You say that he was he was the one ten

713
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 7: in my super Flex rookie rankings.

714
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Speaker 4: Wow, okay, I was close there. Yeah.

715
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 6: The Eagles trade up. You just mentioned him, Bogman Makai Lemon.

716
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 6: We've been wondering, maybe a little bit, why he's fallen.

717
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 6: I thought there was a chance he could go a

718
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 6: lot earlier than this, and it looks like that to

719
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Speaker 6: who the Eagles are trading up.

720
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Speaker 9: For is Lemon.

721
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Speaker 6: They trade with the Cowboys. The trade is Eagles get

722
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Speaker 6: picked twenty and a seventh rounder. Dallas is getting picked

723
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Speaker 6: twenty three, So moving down three spots and they're getting

724
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Speaker 6: picks one fourteen and one thirty seven to make this move.

725
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Speaker 6: But bog mean you, like I said, you just mentioned Lemon.

726
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 6: He's been in the top five of our you know,

727
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 6: super flex rookie mox this the whole way through in

728
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 6: that elite tier of receivers. But he goes twelve spots

729
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Speaker 6: lower than those other two guys, than the lowest who

730
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Speaker 6: will run first team to a run first team and

731
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Speaker 6: a team that is is very soon going to have

732
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Speaker 6: a need at receiver, even if it maybe technically hasn't

733
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 6: happened yet. So what does it say to you, just

734
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 6: first of all, about Lemon, just the draft capital alone,

735
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 6: about I mean, does this say to you that he

736
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Speaker 6: should be now the fifth pick in super flex rookie

737
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Speaker 6: drafts as opposed to you know, we had him third

738
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Speaker 6: or fourth in some of ours.

739
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Speaker 10: I don't know if I'm decided on that quite yet,

740
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 10: but I do you know, I guess it's the interviews

741
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 10: because he was great, Uh he was great at USC

742
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 10: and I'm really he was number one on my board.

743
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 10: I don't know if I'm gonna have him as my

744
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 10: number one wide receiver still, but.

745
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's kind of a weird fit.

746
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 10: They have some skinny guys there, him and Davante Now,

747
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 10: so it's it's a fine pick. I'll at least this.

748
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 10: This is great for Jalen Hurts. I'll say that because

749
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 10: with AJ Brown gone, I was I was kind of concerned.

750
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 10: I had the you know, people killed me for my

751
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 10: take on Jalen Hurts getting out for Jalen Hurts now

752
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 10: because I thought they're gonna trade a J.

753
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Speaker 8: Brown.

754
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Speaker 10: But and they still have to trade a J. Brown

755
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 10: or else. This is a really weird pick. But I

756
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 10: think that's gonna happen before the night ends, So uh,

757
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 10: we'll see what happens there. But yeah, this is it's

758
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 10: an interesting pick. And they moved up to get him,

759
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 10: so they must really like him. Yeah, with Dubtlas by

760
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 10: the way, traded with.

761
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Speaker 6: That with with yeah, team in the division, you know

762
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 6: fits it feels like Levin, I mean we he's constantly

763
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 6: talked about as this ideal slot receiver archetype in you know,

764
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 6: the modern NFL. And it's interesting because DeVante Smith is

765
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 6: very small, but he is a guy who can win

766
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 6: on the outside. So like you could argue that stylistically,

767
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Speaker 6: even though they look like they shouldn't be a fit,

768
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Speaker 6: it could actually maybe be an okay fit. I think

769
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Speaker 6: what's really interesting, just from the Dynasty perspective is one

770
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Speaker 6: of the key points we often talked about when talking

771
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 6: about his value is the fact that this is a

772
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: guy that can catch a ton of passes, and most

773
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 6: Dynasty leagues are PPR. In a place like Philly, it

774
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 6: starts to get a little harder to imagine him catching

775
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 6: enough passes for that to be a differentiating part of

776
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Speaker 6: you know, the equation when trying to evaluate him, do

777
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 6: you do you agree with that sentiment or do you

778
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 6: think that that's still on the table as an outcome

779
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 6: for him?

780
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Speaker 11: No, Because I mean, now AJ Brown is as good

781
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 11: as gone, Like he is going to get traded to

782
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 11: the New England Patriots, and it's going to be a

783
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 11: primary three receiver set of Devonte Smith, McKay, Lemon, and

784
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 11: I guess Ti Tavian Wicks. So yeah, I mean, I

785
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 11: think there's gonna be plenty of They're gonna be target

786
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 11: opportunities for Lemon. It just remains to be seen how

787
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 11: run heavy the Eagles are. It's probably gonna be a

788
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 11: top ten offense in terms of like run ratio.

789
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 8: So really interesting deal.

790
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 11: It's funny where I'm like people had different takes on

791
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 11: how to order Carnel Taate, Jordan Tyson, Mackay Lemon. I

792
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 11: think after this draft, people are still gonna have very

793
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 11: different takes about how to order those three wide receivers.

794
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're gonna have a lot of fun conversations.

795
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 6: I hope everybody tunes into were you. The three of

796
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 6: us are doing a live stream on Saturday. We're doing

797
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 6: a bunch of shows next week. There will be a

798
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 6: lot of opportunity for us to talk and do some

799
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 6: mock drafts and try and sort through that very interesting stretch.

800
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Speaker 6: I mean, particularly you know Kenyan Steek, the guys before us,

801
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 6: we're just talking about it with pick sixteen to the Jets,

802
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 6: like he was kind of at the back end, you know,

803
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 6: those three receivers, and he was kind of that six

804
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 6: pick and a few with the MOCKX we did.

805
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 9: Where does he go now that he's with New York.

806
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 6: I mean, it's gonna be a really interesting middle of

807
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 6: first rounds, I think, But yeah, you know the blatnic

808
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 6: cough winner, do you agree fits before we move off

809
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 6: Lemon that about this being maybe a boost to Jalen

810
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 6: Hurts in terms of how you view in fantasy.

811
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 8: I don't know about it.

812
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 10: Just like that they're coming away with a weapon, right,

813
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 10: like he needed a weapon.

814
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 8: Yeah they did.

815
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, like we can't say the switch from aj Brown

816
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 11: to Makayle Lemon is going to be like a big

817
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 11: boost for Jalen Hurts. But like it booies what could

818
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 11: have been a kind of a sinking I know, the

819
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 11: sinking fantasy value of Jalen Hurts had he not gotten

820
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 11: another weapon to replace Brown.

821
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Speaker 6: By the way, Brown's pick is in and we're being

822
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 6: told it's it's another ride receiver. So we have the

823
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 6: fourth off the board and it is not Omar Cooper,

824
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 6: it's Casey Conception. And this is a pick that I'm

825
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 6: guessing Debro quite likes because he is, you know, was

826
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 6: his number two receiver in this class.

827
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 9: I don't know how we're gonna feel about.

828
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 6: And I like the player too, and I had actually

829
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 6: grown to like him even more kind of throughout this

830
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 6: process and listening to guys like Debro but fits going

831
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Speaker 6: to the Browns. I mean, I was worried about Tate

832
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 6: going to the Browns, and now you get a lesser receiver,

833
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 6: still good prospect, but lesser receiver going.

834
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Speaker 9: To this situation. I mean it's tough.

835
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Speaker 11: It is tough, you know, not the best situation for

836
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 11: conceptcy On this year. But either Shador Sanders is good

837
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 11: or they are going to have the pick of the

838
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 11: litter in a good quarterback draft in twenty twenty seven.

839
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Speaker 11: And also Jerry Judy is going to be out of

840
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 11: case a Conceptcyn's white next year, not that he's necessarily

841
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 11: in his.

842
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Speaker 8: Way out of his way right now, yeah, right right.

843
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 11: But yeah, I mean I think conceptcy On is probably

844
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 11: not going to be a fan to see stud this year,

845
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 11: but twenty twenty seven and beyond, like the table is

846
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 11: set nicely for him.

847
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 6: But I mean you surprised at all conception On going

848
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: ahead of Cooper. I mean, there's some drops issues there,

849
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 6: but pretty seems like a pretty good player.

850
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 10: And I mock the Browns at this pick ok a lot,

851
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 10: because they need a guy that can stretch the field.

852
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 10: They have a big, slow guy in Tilman. They have

853
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 10: a route guy and Judy. They need a speed guy,

854
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 10: they really do, and I get to hate him from

855
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 10: the you know, cradle to the Gray A and M

856
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 10: and the Browns love that.

857
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: So one of my things that.

858
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 6: Happened, I gotta say Fano and Concepcion, and that's that's

859
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 6: I'm I'd be pretty happy with that if I'm not bad.

860
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I probably would have done it.

861
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 9: Is it an a plus plus plus? I don't think so.

862
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 6: But I think that that's a job well done, especially

863
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: picking up extra picks from the Chiefs, trading down and

864
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 6: getting foot I don't.

865
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Speaker 9: I think. I think that's a that's a good day.

866
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Speaker 10: I don't think they took the BPA at either pick,

867
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 10: but they took the biggest need of both picks, so.

868
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: And they took good players if it wasn't BPA overall,

869
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 6: So it's not like they reached you know, it's it's

870
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Speaker 6: not like they took like, sorry to knock your guy.

871
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 6: He's just the one who comes to my mind, Bogman.

872
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 6: It's not like they took Skyler Bell here right to

873
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 6: fill a need. It's still a first round receiver that

874
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 6: they took, even if it's not VPA.

875
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 9: Same idea with fun.

876
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 4: I was still still a good Chris Brassel or Ted

877
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: Hurs or anybody.

878
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 6: I was just it was the first one that came

879
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 6: to my mind because I'm staring at I do want

880
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,359
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881
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,479
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882
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883
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885
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: Pros app. Bogman, We're gonna say goodbye to you in

886
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 6: a second. Before you go, I need to clear the

887
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 6: floor for you on Ty Simpson going thirteenth to the Rams,

888
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 6: because we did not get to it yet.

889
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 9: Give me a few seconds on Simpson.

890
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: I mean it's weird.

891
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 10: I'll say that like it's it's not that surprising that

892
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 10: they took Simpson.

893
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: It's surprising that they used third team to take Simpson.

894
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 10: I thought you would trade back in there, but you know,

895
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 10: they have to have a plan, and Steptan Bennett wasn't it.

896
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 10: So it's not the worst pick that I've ever seen

897
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 10: in a draft. It's not something I would have done

898
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 10: I would have found a way to move back. I

899
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 10: would have found a way to do something different. I

900
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 10: think it was too early for Ty Simpson. Guy only

901
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 10: had a handful of starts in the NFL.

902
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 6: So we have a comment in here asking who's going

903
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 6: to be QB One, Mentoza or tie I.

904
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 9: They don't think there's any real debate about that from us.

905
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 10: Johnny, But I know, like, long term, you love Ty

906
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 10: Simpson on the Rams, specifically with I think.

907
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 6: This locks him into a round one pick in super

908
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 6: flex drafts, in rookie drafts. I think I think something

909
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 6: It does not matter how you feel about the player.

910
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 6: I think he simply must be a first round pick

911
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 6: in this class now.

912
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 8: And it's good for him.

913
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 11: I mean, like the alternatives were the Cardinals and the Jets,

914
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 11: and he would.

915
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: Have had to start this year for them for sure.

916
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, And I will say that in defense of the

917
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 11: Rams with the pick. I know, like people are going

918
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 11: to trash them for this pick, but they're in it

919
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 11: to win the Super Bowl this year. They do not

920
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 11: expect to have a pick in the top half of

921
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 11: the draft in the twenty twenty seven draft, so they

922
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 11: are not going to be having the lick, would not

923
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 11: have had the pick of the litter of quarterbacks next year,

924
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 11: Like why not take this chance?

925
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 12: Now?

926
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: Yep?

927
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 11: And I know Bogs and Night were able to rattle

928
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 11: off like fifteen potential first round quarterbacks in the twenty

929
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 11: twenty seven class, but realistically it's not.

930
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 8: Going to be fifteen. It's probably going to be more

931
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 8: like five.

932
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 10: Well, look at what happened to This class was supposed

933
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 10: to be the expected big quarterback class because a lot

934
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 10: of them were eligible and they decided not to come

935
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 10: out so and some of them played terribly. So you know,

936
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 10: you take three away out of like the six that

937
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 10: are for sure first rounders, and you know it is

938
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 10: then and they should have a nice run again. And

939
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 10: you know, they didn't get an extra first roun on

940
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 10: pick in this class like they did from Atlanta last year.

941
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 10: So and my buddy, the Falcons fan was very happy

942
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 10: that now the Falcons can't be mad about losing that

943
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 10: pick because they don't know how good Tys Simpsons is

944
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 10: going to be for at least the season.

945
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 6: So, by the way, our colleague Mike Mayer shares a

946
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 6: funny story here that mackay Lemon was on the phone

947
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 6: with the Steelers. When the Eagles moved in front of

948
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh to take him. The Eagles had trouble getting in

949
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 6: touch with Lemon because Pittsburgh, who knew the Cowboys were

950
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 6: going defense, had already called Lemon, so thinking that the

951
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 6: Cowboys are going defense, they thought they had their guy,

952
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 6: and then the Eagles went up and got him. That

953
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 6: is that's pretty funny. I wonder what Bog was thinking about.

954
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 6: They will have to ask him tomorrow fits uh that story.

955
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: But but yeah, so Jets obviously are up next year.

956
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 6: Obviously it's not gonna be stours. Where do you guys

957
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 6: think they should go here? I mean, again, we keep

958
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: talking about falk falling. Is there another name that Katy Koop?

959
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 13: Like they think they talk They talked so much smoke

960
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 13: about Cooper. Yeah, to the Jets, whether it was at

961
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 13: not at two, but at sixteen and then at thirty three,

962
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 13: and now they've moved up ahead of a team that

963
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 13: also would have taken Omark Cooper, probably with the forty

964
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 13: nine ers, but maybe they didn't love him as much

965
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 13: as the Jets did.

966
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 9: So I think it's it's probably Cooper.

967
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels like it should be if it is

968
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 6: Cooper fits, we start to feel different about their first round,

969
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 6: I mean, having made three picks. Yeah, I know you

970
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 6: didn't like the way they went with their first two,

971
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: but we you feel better about them overall.

972
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 8: A little bit.

973
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 11: I mean, I guess it's value in Cooper considering his well,

974
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 11: his over under as of this morning was what twenty

975
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 11: three and a half, twenty four and a half something

976
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 11: like that had.

977
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 8: Fallen a little bit.

978
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 11: But yeah, they a lot of people were mocking Cooper

979
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 11: to the Jets at sixteen, So this helps pick up

980
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 11: the pieces of what has been a.

981
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 8: Bad night for them. It does, It does make if

982
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 8: that's the peck it does.

983
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 13: It does significantly hurt Sadiq even more though, because that's

984
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 13: what it looks like, does so now, because like I'm like,

985
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 13: the way, Yeah, so when I was first looking at Sadek,

986
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 13: I'm like, Okay, well, isn't he gonna be the number

987
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 13: two guy? All there is Garrett Wilson, and I'm not

988
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 13: overully concerned about Mason Taylor as like this super special player.

989
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 13: But now you're throwing in Omar Cooper to the mix. Okay,

990
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 13: Now it does really come way too crowded with Gino

991
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 13: Smith as the quarterback, so Sadik is after day one.

992
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 13: Again we have two more picks. But when it comes

993
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 13: to winners and losers, Sadiq is clearly a loser in

994
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 13: my book, of all the places he could have gone

995
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 13: super dynamic tight end. We don't even know who the

996
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 13: head coach will be for the Jets next year, how

997
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 13: they're going to use Sadiq, who the offensive play caller

998
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 13: is going to be.

999
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 9: Next year, So that, yeah, that's are you.

1000
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: I think it's very easy to paint the picture of

1001
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn's getting fired. They're going to draft a quarterback

1002
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 6: very early next year, and they're going to probably higher

1003
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 6: an offensive minor head coach to pair with their young

1004
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 6: rookie quarterback. So when you get to rookie drafts this year, fits,

1005
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 6: are you going to be drafting Omar Cooper kind of

1006
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 6: with that in mind? Or are you going to be saying, well, listen,

1007
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 6: that's all projection and assumptions, and right now he has

1008
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 6: no real, you know, good quarterback situation. He's not the

1009
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 6: number one receiver in the offense when Garrett Wilson is healthy.

1010
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: It's not an offensive minor head coach like it's a

1011
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 6: pretty rough landing spot for this year. That could look

1012
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 6: a lot better a year from now. How are you

1013
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 6: going to be approaching him in rookie drafts trying to

1014
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 6: balance those two positions.

1015
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we.

1016
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 11: Knew Cooper wasn't going to come in and be the

1017
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 11: alpha receiver anywhere like he's He was always sort of

1018
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 11: meant to be a complimentary receiver.

1019
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 8: It was an ensemble cast in Indiana.

1020
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 11: Last year with Cooper and sarat and you know, Charlie Becker,

1021
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 11: and so I mean, it's fine that we can have

1022
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 11: low expectations for him next year or excuse me, next season,

1023
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 11: this season twenty twenty six, but like twenty twenty seven,

1024
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 11: things are going to look brighter when presumably the Jets

1025
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 11: have a new quarterback. So I'm not too worried about it.

1026
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 11: Like he's still going to be a top six receiver.

1027
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 11: Such a drop off from six to seven, that Cooper

1028
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 11: is still going to be a first round pick in

1029
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 11: dynasty drafts.

1030
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 9: We talked about him as early as a wide receiver

1031
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 9: four in the class.

1032
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 6: Though in rookie box, I feel like that, like that

1033
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 6: feels pretty tough at this point with this it does.

1034
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 8: I mean, now concepcion I think is clearly ahead of.

1035
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe Boston, depending where he goes.

1036
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 13: Would does this would you be clearly Sadik. I don't

1037
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 13: know where you guys were on Sadik versus Cooper, But

1038
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 13: is it Sadiq over Cooper clearly now, especially when it

1039
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 13: just comes to he plays tight end versus wide receiver

1040
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 13: on the.

1041
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 11: Jet, I'm still Cooper over Sidik if it's not tight

1042
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 11: end premium.

1043
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 6: We our consensus was in the same tier. Ericson, Yeah,

1044
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 6: I know it's close. Yeah, I I find that to

1045
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 6: be tricky because I was a little down on on

1046
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 6: Sidique in.

1047
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 9: General, not that I hate him.

1048
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 6: I thought he was a first round tight end, but

1049
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 6: I was not this like over them, like I was

1050
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 6: on our show. Ericson with me Fitzen Bogman really pushing

1051
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 6: to say Stours should be in the same tier as

1052
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 6: as Sadiq. So like, I've been a little bit hesitant

1053
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: on him anyway, and now you get this landing spot

1054
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 6: and it's hard.

1055
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 8: So Seattle only has four picks in this draft.

1056
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 11: I'm shocked, like, yeah, yeah, they like, if they're not

1057
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 11: going to trade this pick, could it be a running back?

1058
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing.

1059
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 6: Is people were saying like it could be the running

1060
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 6: back on Day two. I mean, Jadeerian Price was connected

1061
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 6: to them in some mocks like that. But that just

1062
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 6: feels like we keep talking about this as a really

1063
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: weak class of a second running back in the first

1064
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 6: round that feels like a luxury also even though it's

1065
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 6: in need position. I mean, BPA, like, you know, you

1066
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 6: could they could not that they need a safety.

1067
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 9: But a guy like Emmanuel McNeil.

1068
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: Warren, like there there are good players on the board

1069
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 6: that it feels like taking a running back. It feels

1070
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 6: silly to me not to say they're not, but but

1071
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 6: yeah they I mean, if it were to be a

1072
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 6: running back, it feels like Price would be it, right fits.

1073
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 11: I think so, I mean he is the consensus number

1074
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 11: two running back in this class.

1075
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 8: I mean I I.

1076
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 11: There might be some dispute in the fantasy community, but

1077
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 11: among in the NFL, I think he's been number two

1078
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 11: all along.

1079
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I I do like Joanah Coleman, but

1080
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 6: he's been in that group of the second tier of guys.

1081
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 6: I've had Price at the top of that group kind

1082
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 6: of throughout. I mean, if it were me on the

1083
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 6: clock with Seattle. I would I would not take a

1084
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 6: running back, I'll put that out there. But if they do, oh,

1085
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 6: actually looks like it's okay, So it is Price. Wow, Okay,

1086
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 6: I don't think that's very particularly smart, but you know what,

1087
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Speaker 6: this team just won the Super Bowl, so they clearly

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Speaker 6: know a whole lot more than I do. That probably,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it certainly pushes him to the top of

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Speaker 6: that group in terms of, you know, rookie drafts. He

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Speaker 6: was in that clump with you know, Jonah Coleman and

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Speaker 6: maybe Emma Johnson and whoever. This is like as good

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Speaker 6: of a landing spot as you could get and first

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Speaker 6: round draft capital.

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Speaker 9: He has to be RB two in rookie drafts.

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Speaker 8: Now fits, right, he does.

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Speaker 11: This is the lottery ticket landing spot for a running back,

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Speaker 11: one of the rookie running backs. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 11: like jit Aian Price, I don't want to tease our

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Speaker 11: our next segment too much, but like I would imagine

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Speaker 11: he's going to be listed as one of the winners

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Speaker 11: of the first round among the fantasy prospects.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hard not to be obviously played behind Jeremiah Love

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Speaker 6: at Notre Dame ericson you know you wonder what kind

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Speaker 6: of production we might have seen if he wasn't the

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Speaker 6: one B two loves one A for the fighting Irish,

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Speaker 6: but somebody who I think will show more of an

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Speaker 6: ability to catch passes than he did just because he

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Speaker 6: was sharing that backfield with a guy like Love, but

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Speaker 6: we haven't seen that. But is just a I think,

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Speaker 6: a pretty good runner, and again, this landing spot is sublime.

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Speaker 13: Can't argue with that or the draft capital first round,

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Speaker 13: even though it's thirty second overall, which I do think

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Speaker 13: does matter and requires some context when we talk about

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Speaker 13: first round running backs. Running backs taken top ten, top

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Speaker 13: fifteen have performed way differently than running backs taken in

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Speaker 13: the second half of the first round. So although both

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Speaker 13: him and Jeremiah Love are both first armed running backs,

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Speaker 13: being picked third versus thirty second are very different. So

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Speaker 13: I just kind of wanted to add that layer. I

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Speaker 13: think for me, the issue is not that he's a winner,

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Speaker 13: but I think he's going to get really expensive and

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Speaker 13: is this something that we want to buy into when

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Speaker 13: it comes to Okay, we have a new offensive coordinator

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Speaker 13: coming in. Charponnay is not dead, like he's going to

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Speaker 13: come back at some point. They have a couple veterans.

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Speaker 13: They have Emmanuel Wilson who was able to carve out

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Speaker 13: a role in Green Bay, and last year Trevan Henderson

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Speaker 13: was viewed as the best pass blocking running back coming

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Speaker 13: out of college in years and years. Other coaches were

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00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 13: talking about it and what he struggled with as a

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Speaker 13: rookie pass pro at the NFL level. So that concerns

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Speaker 13: me with Price about the pass pro great vision, no

1134
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 13: denying that when he sees a certain lane he's going

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Speaker 13: to hit it. I think that at some times he okay,

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Speaker 13: he had a better vision than loved it because Love

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00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 13: I think sometimes just tries to hit the home run.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, the thing with Price is that is what

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00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 13: he becomes one oh three, Like is it him Mendoza?

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Speaker 9: And then I don't I don't think he's gonna get

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Speaker 9: that high.

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Speaker 6: I think he's still going behind the big three receivers

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00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 6: at least if I don't.

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Speaker 13: I mean this you get you guys talked about it

1145
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 13: hit the lottery.

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Speaker 11: Well, but like you are making the great case for

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00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 11: why he should not be going in the top half

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Speaker 11: of rookie drive. I would not take JD Aaron Price.

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Speaker 11: I mean just but people are going to go over

1150
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 11: no question he's a winner. There just aren't that many

1151
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 11: good landing spots for running backs in this year's draft, Like,

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00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 11: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I really don't think there's gonna be many, if any

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Speaker 6: rookie drafts where he's going inside the top five.

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Speaker 9: I think after.

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Speaker 6: Love, Mendoza and Superflex and in the first three receivers,

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Speaker 6: I think those guys are all still going ahead of him.

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00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 6: I think one oh six is where you might start

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Speaker 6: to see people go like, hey, I really need a

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Speaker 6: running back and this is a great landing spot, Like

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Speaker 6: I don't like Sadik and you know, I'm not a

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Speaker 6: big fan of of the receivers. Like that's where I

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Speaker 6: think it might start in some cases. I don't think

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Speaker 6: he's getting inside the top five in almost any case.

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Speaker 6: I just can't see somebody passing on like a top

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Speaker 6: ten receiver or Lemon going to the.

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Speaker 9: Eagles over him.

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Speaker 6: I mean, maybe that'll be proven wrong, but I don't

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Speaker 6: think he'll get that pricey. I think he'll get pricier

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Speaker 6: than he is right now, Like he will be a

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Speaker 6: first round pick in in every rookie draft, and you know,

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Speaker 6: up towards the middle as opposed towards the back of

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Speaker 6: the first round. I don't think he's getting to the

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Speaker 6: top of the first round in my opinion.

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Speaker 8: You want to take him ahead of Ken, fine by me.

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Speaker 9: That's I just think that the price.

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Speaker 13: I don't think what happened to Cloude Eversaria when he

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Speaker 13: went to the nets spot at thirty two over like

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Speaker 13: we just get out of control and carried away right,

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Speaker 13: especially with him going this high, because I think there's

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Speaker 13: a lot of things where this worked out really well

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Speaker 13: for him, where everyone else's running back class was really bad,

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Speaker 13: so naturally scarcely at the position that pushes him up.

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Speaker 4: The fact that.

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Speaker 13: Seattle Worm, you did a great job of outlining they

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Speaker 13: didn't have any more picks that they could potentially fall

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Speaker 13: back onto. Then take price at a different point. If

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Speaker 13: you've been taking thirty third overall versus thirty second, he

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Speaker 13: would still be he'd be viewed like totally differently because

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Speaker 13: if you be a first round pick versus the second

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Speaker 13: round pick, and I just think the price, I think

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Speaker 13: where's it to be?

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Speaker 9: Literally the price.

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Speaker 6: I think where it's going to get interesting is when

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Speaker 6: you talk about a guy like Omar Cooper, who we

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Speaker 6: are worried about the landing spot in the at least

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Speaker 6: the short term versus him, because prior to this was

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Speaker 6: clearly ahead of him. I wonder about that now. I

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Speaker 6: wonder if some people might be concerned about conceptsion. I

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Speaker 6: don't think they should be as much with the Cleveland

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Speaker 6: landing spot compared to Price, But like I wonder if

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Speaker 6: people say, well, price versus excepts On, is now a

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Speaker 6: conversation giving the landing spot. I mean, Denzel Boston did

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Speaker 6: not go in the first round. I wonder if that

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Speaker 6: becomes a conversation. You know Stowers obviously he hasn't been

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Speaker 6: picked yet, but the the top five guys I think

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Speaker 6: are still fairly locked in in my estimation. I think

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Speaker 6: what's a really interesting one is, in a vacuum like

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Speaker 6: agnostic of what your team needs, are in a super

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Speaker 6: flex draft, who is going to be ranked ahead of you?

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Speaker 6: Who would you rather take? Fits Ty Simpson or jeddarium Price.

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Speaker 12: Ty Simpson ericson, Yeah, okay, because that's an interest because

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Speaker 12: you're saying, I'm taking a guy who's not going to

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Speaker 12: play this year at the very least, and who we

1215
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Speaker 12: didn't think was very good, but he's still going to

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Speaker 12: go ahead of Price, so that maybe that says something

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Speaker 12: about Price not jumping too high in the rank.

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Speaker 11: Positional value man and the setup for Ty Simpson in

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty seven and beyond.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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