WEBVTT - Digesting First Two Days of Pads | Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:08.960 It is Thursday, August third. This is Jaguars Happy Hours. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:11.560 Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.520 Is brought to you by the Saint John's River Water 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:14.640 Management District. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.360 And now back in the big chair after being woefully 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.000 ignored at the trade deadline. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:26.079 J P cheer and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.240 It is Thursday, Training Camp, rolling along busy. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:30.960 Two hours ahead. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.400 Happy Hour for the next hour of course, and then 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.239 the Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock on the Jaguars 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.400 Radio Network. Plenty to get to today on Jaguars Happy Hour, 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.080 Week two of training camp has come to a close. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.760 The Jaguars are off tomorrow and then it gets physical, 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.200 it gets hot, it gets real Saturday, Sunday, Monday. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.959 We'll get to that coming up early O line d 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.480 line one on one drills. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.080 We'll get logoman's take on how those have gone the 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.320 first couple of days, and pads, wide receivers and DB's 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.920 as well, getting some work in. As we said the 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.880 Doug Peterson Show five o'clock. Well recap some of the 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:13.280 comments from head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week. Jeff 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.399 Loghman Jaguars Analysts joining me now from the Hyundai studios 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:22.560 at the Miller Electric Center. Good afternoon, Logs, Good afternoon, JP. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.679 You doing good, I'm great man. Two weeks of training 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.440 campdown well kind of. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:28.839 What eight practices? 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:33.319 Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say two weeks, but into it 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:34.320 eight practices. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.520 What two of them in pads, right, Tuesday Wednesday? Yeah, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:38.960 that's right. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.360 Originally I think the plan was was for them to 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.360 have pads on Monday. That was kind of the expectation 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.760 that it got moved back to Tuesday, and so you 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.760 had two padded practices and then today it was back into. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:53.279 What it's called. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.200 Some people are calling it pass shoulder pads, but they're 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.680 not shoulder pads. Are called spider shells, and so when 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.320 you're in spider shelves, Just so people know, it's there's 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.440 no live contact, Okay, It's just. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:06.200 All it is. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.200 It's a a device that goes on your shoulders that 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.639 literally is like a webbing of pads. It's not doesn't 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.400 have any hard plastic to it whatsoever. It's all a 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.440 soft material and it's just designed so that if two 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.000 people collide, it gives just a little cushion. You're not 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.280 doing thud tempo or it's basically the same material that 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.960 they make knee pads out of. Okay, but it's in 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.360 a spider web arrangement across the tops of the shoulders. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:38.480 But it is not a contact piece of equipment. So 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.640 I men, some people get confused by that. Some people 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.600 call them shoulder pads. They're not shoulder pads, Okay, They're 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:48.480 just called spider pads. There's a big difference. No contact, none, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.480 no live contact in spider pads. So you'll get more 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.919 of your your real work in your evaluation. A lot 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.200 of it will come when they have true shoulder pads. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:02:59.600 Correct. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.840 In the last two days, I think we're we're awesome. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.640 I mean, you get to you get to watch, you know, 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:06.880 because everybody looks. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.679 Good when it's in shorts. I mean, you know we 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.000 used to call the shorts. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.920 Well no, I wouldn't go that, come on, lot, But 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.840 you know you talk about the underwear Olympics in football, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.360 you know, where you have guys at shorts and you're running, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.079 you're doing drills and all that kind of stuff, and 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:27.280 everybody can look really good in that, well almost everybody. Okay, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.000 you and I cannot look good doing that anymore. I 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.240 can't do it anymore, not at all, okay, but but 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.680 all football players, for the most part, on a ninety 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.640 man roster, when when there's no pads, they look, hey, he's. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:40.160 Got a little something. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.560 I mean, they look like they all belong. But then 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.440 when the pads go on, look there's guys that get 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.120 weeded out, and guys look like they belong and some 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.840 look like they don't belong. And that's just kind of 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.400 part of it. And it's you know, you got a 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.080 little bit of an evaluation with two days, and then 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.800 I think you're gonna get a really good evaluation because 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.640 you're you're now starting to enter I don't know if 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.880 there really is such a thing anymore with training camp 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.800 being modified the way it is with collective bargaining. But 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.080 it's the grind, okay, it's the modern day grind of 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.360 training camp, which is the window that you get into 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.920 well essentially a week out from the first preseason game. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.640 You're going against the same. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.280 Guys, the weather's hot, you're tired, you know, you're tired 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.600 going against the same guys day in and day out. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.200 You sometimes get tired of smelling the guys bo next 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.760 to you day in and day out, and you're ready 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:41.000 for something different, and that's why I think the tempers 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.159 can flare a little bit. So, I mean, I wouldn't 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.560 be surprised if you had maybe a push shove altercation 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.320 at some point on Saturday or Sunday or Monday. And 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.000 when you put three days together in pads, back to 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.080 back to back, and at this window, this particular juncture 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.800 of training camp, yeah, things can get a little testy. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.040 The Saturday practice inside the stadium. I was told today 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.159 there's a huge response for tickets for that and should 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.640 be a big crowd, little elevated atmosphere, if you will. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.240 And then back to the practice field for what could 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.120 be should be the longest practice so far in training camp. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.160 I think it's on the schedule almost two and a 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:24.200 half hours on Sunday Sunday, yes, okay, and then Monday 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.000 of course. So yeah, you're right that the intensity will 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.039 continue to ramp up. Its Jaguar's happy. How I brought 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.520 to you about the Saint John's River Water Management District, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.080 Florida's water It's worth saving. Just a note on the 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.800 in stadium practice and yeah, you know there's some coaches 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.800 that like to get away, have no crowds have no 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:50.039 quote unquote distractions. And the smart coaches, and Doug is 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.640 one of them, they realize that when you have fans 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.320 and attendance, it has a tendency to heighten the awareness, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:03.320 heighten the intensity because you're performing not just against your teammates, 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.880 but you're also performing in front of people. And when 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.839 there's more eyes on you JP. I mean that's why 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.080 Monday Night and Sunday Night and all those other National 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.320 TV games. I mean, guys get pumped because they know 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.760 there's more eyeballs on them. And so when you have 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.919 a practice that's in front of lots of eyeballs, the 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.080 intensity can get raised a little bit. And as a 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.240 coach or an evaluator, if you're Trent Balky and his staff, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.560 I mean, that's the kind of environment that you want 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.080 to have to evaluate some of the players that you 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.920 have on your roster. Where it's a heightened environment. You'll 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.080 get that on Saturday in the stadium. You'll get that 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.680 against the Detroit Lions next week or excuse me, in 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.839 two weeks. And that's a good thing. I mean, those 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.839 practices with other teams and there's fans and attendance, but 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.360 you know, and again there's more eyeballs that are watching it, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:51.919 and there's. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.479 Other eyeballs from the other team, you know, and it 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:55.840 makes that intensity go up. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.520 And he realized that, hey, look, you know, some of 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.320 these young guys they might be auditioning for a in 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.600 Detroit because there may be no room for them here 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.600 in Jacksonville. You never know, we'll get some of your 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:09.080 evaluation of the offensive line, defensive line one on one work. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.240 I know you were all over that yesterday, watched it live, 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.520 watched it on film. Yeah, I mean, that's that's a 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.760 big part of evaluation when they go in the past. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.640 We'll get to that coming up in just a little bit. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.880 I think the biggest story of camp though so far, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.400 has been Calvin Ridley and his impact what he could 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.520 bring to this Jaguars offense. The first week of camp, 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.600 I mean, I think the fans were just amazed at 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.560 what he could do in terms of running routes and 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.200 they haven't seen that in a while around here. Yesterday, though, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.880 there was a lot going on. Let's say, Doug Peterson 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:46.120 before practice said he had some toast soreness. Well, then 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.160 later he comes out he played practiced the entire practice 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.640 because he changed cleats was a cleat issue that was 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.720 causing some soreness in the bottom of his foot. He 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.240 said he got through practice yesterday, but he also had 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.160 at least four drops during team work yesterday, and he 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:07.120 was asked after practice today about being rusty. Here's his response. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.360 No, No, I'm never gonna think I'm gonna be rusty. No, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.400 if I drop a pass, that's not mean I'm rusty. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:17.920 I just dropped that. I was so wet yesterday I 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:19.360 couldn't keep. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.440 It on my body and a player like me, I'm 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.960 never gonna think it's rust you know. I'm sorry, I'm 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.320 not gonna I'm not gonna say that. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:27.440 It's training camp. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:31.360 What the day is at eight pretty sore today, you 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.520 know what I'm saying. So, Nah, I'm not rusty. And 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.920 yesterday I look at that I did so much good, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.440 and yesterday I did so much good and it was 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.160 some bad. You know, there's gonna be some good and bad, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.840 and I look at it as a win. You know, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.240 I'm out here in this training camp, like I said, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.079 I gotta get through this, like that's what I'm doing. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.240 I know how hard training camp is, and this is 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.080 probably one of the hardest training camps I've ever been in, 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.680 So I know that I gotta continue to work to 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.680 get better to be dominant come day game one. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:02.720 So that's Calvin Ridley. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.000 Any means that because he hasn't been in one in 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.920 a while, right, obviously it's been a minute since he's 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.400 been in the training camp. It's a big year for him. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.360 How does he battle through a little adversity this week 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:15.439 and move forward? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:16.520 I think you heard from there. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.440 Let me go back because you said that we haven't 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.760 seen that in a while around here about how he 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.400 runs routes, I would disagree with that. I think I 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:29.200 think Christian Kirk and Jay Jones are two of outstanding 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.000 route runners. I think it's a little bit he's just 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.280 a different player. I think it's a better way to 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.679 put it. Okay, he's got definitely a level of quickness. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.319 The way he comes in and out of breaks is 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.160 a little different. But I mean, look, Christian Kirk comes 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.800 in and out of breaks in an incredibly fast fashion. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.560 Jay Jones might be one of the best sell jobs 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.319 when it comes to routes on movement with the head 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.880 to make to move defensive backs in one way or another, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.560 or safeties to one way or another that there. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:57.840 Is in a national football league. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:03.359 So but he is a different athlete because he combined speed, quickness, 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:07.719 and rot running ability all in one. And so he's 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.360 kind of a combination of different players. And you know, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.600 we were trying to figure out, I mean, what who 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.040 would you compare him to to somebody that's played recently 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.280 in the league or something of that nature, and the 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.400 name Antonio Brown came up. And Antonio Brown the first 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.440 thing people think of when you think of Antonio Brown 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.679 as the negative, but think of the positive that Antonio 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.600 Brown used to do when he was with Pittsburgh and 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.160 Ben Roethlisberger about same size, got speed, you know, the 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:40.880 catching the balls and everything similar. Now a little different player. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.040 But it's fun to watch Calvin really. And there was 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.160 a moment in yesterday's practice to where things got heated 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.200 and one on once I'm talking to heat it so 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.319 wide receiver corner stuff you're talking about, right, So Calvin 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.680 was having issues dropping the ball and then you know 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:02.640 there's flags flying, there's it's competition, right, there's all that 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.959 going on. There's a little bit of you know, chirping, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.840 but not that it was get a little elevator, it was, 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.160 but it was it was never going over the top, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:16.640 that's right. It was just intense competition because it started 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.480 out Tyson Campbell's line up against against Calvin and look 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.200 at this is high level competition. I mean you got 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.920 two alpha dogs lining up in front you, in front 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.800 of each other, and it's competitive and everybody's watching and 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:29.480 they know it. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.040 And there were some. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:36.120 Penalty flags that were thrown and then uh then they 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.480 had like I want to say, two or three matches, 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.959 and then all of a sudden, Darius Williams wants to 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.800 chirp a little bit and Calvin Ridley says, you get 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.240 out there, come on, bring it, and they and they do, 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.960 and then Darius Williams goes out there and Darius Williams 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.000 gets called for a flag on Calvin Ridley. I mean 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.000 this was I mean, this was great stuff. I mean, 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.320 this is this is high level competition, and this is 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.360 the kind of stuff that makes the elite players what 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.160 they are, I mean, highly competitive, and it makes everybody 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.360 better and it's fun to watch. I mean when we're 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.880 sitting there watching all this go down, I mean, this 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.520 was fantastic. I talked to Darius Williams today and the 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.680 interview will be on the Official Jaguars podcast network coming 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.640 up very soon. Not a guy that goes on the 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.080 record a lot. He's not a big media guy, but 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.080 when he talks, he has a lot to say. And 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.960 he mentioned those receivers and that type of competition helping 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.240 the corners get better too. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.280 It goes both ways. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.760 I mean, when you have that type of level of 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.319 receiver going at you like that, it helps the entire 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.240 team get better. I had a conversation with Zay Jones, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.040 I can't remember if it was yesterday or the day before, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.240 and was just talking to him about the room, you know, 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.400 the wide receiver room, and I asked him, I said, look, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.240 is this the best room you've ever been in? And 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.000 what I mean by room when I'm using that term, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.760 it doesn't necessarily mean the collection of talent or the 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.960 skill set. It means the quality of the people that 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.959 are in the room and how they collectively go to work. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.040 Because that's the one thing that was so impressive last year. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.280 You heard me JP, and we were talking about this 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.360 many times last year, about how important it was to 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.440 have a hard working group of wide receivers for a 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.880 young quarterback and Trevor Lawrence and these guys came to 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.360 work and practice every day. In Zay Jones and Christian Kirk, 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.880 it was awesome to watch. And Evan Ingram I'd put 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.440 him in that group as well, and Zay said, yes, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.520 it's the best room that he's ever been in, he said, 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.440 and Calvin definitely raises the level of that room up 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.800 just because of his abilities. But the thing that's impressive, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.400 I mean, you're talking about some of the hardest working 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:48.280 team first guys that I've ever seen. Now I don't 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.240 haven't seen enough of Calvin really, there's no not enough 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.720 track record to say that he's into that same mold 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.000 as as Zay or Christian because they showed it last 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.520 year and so you got to still see a little 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.880 bit of that, but you expect it because the way 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.599 that he comes to work every day, He's there to 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.120 play football and to work hard, and that's that's been 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.320 impressive to watch. Had a conversation wide receivers coach Chad 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.200 Hall said the same thing, and it's been fun watching 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.200 Chadthall and a lot of people know that he's a 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.440 new coach on the staff. Came from the Buffalo bills. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.880 He has been nothing short of impressive in my eyes, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.080 how he communicates with these guys, how the guys respond 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.720 to him, Because a lot of times you can have 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.640 the greatest message in the world as a coach, but 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.600 if it's not being heard, it doesn't matter how good 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.000 that message is. And Chadthall, you can tell, has a 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:43.160 lot of respect from his group. Jack's fans want customized 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.200 Jaguars furniture for your home. 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Josh Allen explains 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.280 how it's Jaguars Happy Hour brought to you by the 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.560 Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's water. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:33.000 It's worth saving, you know, once you get the call. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.920 Now it's you know, you know, you know your responsibility. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.560 See if Mason's lineup of play past. I think we're 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:39.240 at that point now. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.120 There's a couple of nuancings in the defense, but other 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.160 than that, it's lineup play pass. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.680 Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker, Welcome back. It is Jaguars 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:54.080 Happy Hour. It is Thursday. I'm JP Shadrick. That's Jeff Logoman. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.040 Kay Stevens coming up in about fifteen minutes. We'll get 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.520 her thoughts on the Jags training camp so far. 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You're looking good though yet I didn't 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.520 want to say it, but you brought it up, all right, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.960 so Josh Allen, that brings us into the pass rush 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.480 one on one conversation. I know you were right there 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.120 on the doorstep yesterday to see some of those matchups, 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.360 and that's really a fun part of camp for you. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.600 I know Biselli loves that stuff too. Just to kind 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.600 of get an idea of what's going on two days 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.360 into those one on one what what what is the 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.439 I guess the general theme of what stands out on 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:05.680 the defensive side. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.760 First overall, the offense is winning. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.280 Okay, I mean, I mean that's that's if you look 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.720 at and you want to paint a big picture of 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.119 the offensive line is winning. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.560 Is that normal this time of camp? Or is that no? 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.960 I mean usually it's kind of fifty to fifty a 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.000 little bit. I mean, but for the most part, this 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:29.520 offensive line is is winning. And that's concerning You want 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.040 to have the defensive line unless you're the offensive line, well, yeah, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.639 exactly love it. If you're a Phil Phil Rauscher, you're like, 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:37.919 you know, the offensive line could You're like this is great? 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.200 You know, And look, I'm not saying that the offensive 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.040 line is winning every one of them, but they're winning 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:47.359 the majority of them. And this is a drill that 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.879 it's kind of advantage defense a little bit. You know, 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:57.320 there's no chipping, there's no help from another offensive lineman, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.679 there's no play action that might slow you down as 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.880 a pass rusher. You're trying to get to one spot. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.520 You know, it's not like there's a moving quarterback and 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.159 there's bootlegs and everything else. So this is kind of 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.919 a drill. Much like seven on seven passing drill is 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.280 advantage offense. One on one pass rush should be advantage defense. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.720 And the defense is not winning at the rate that 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.560 I would expect in this drill. And and that's a 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.880 little bit concerning. And the guys that you would expect 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.680 to win more than others or at a higher percentage. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:34.960 You know, your your. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:40.080 Josh Allen's, your Trayvon Walker, they're not winning more than 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.800 anybody else. I mean, So that's something to keep an 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.680 eye on it. It's early in camp. It's not time 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.239 to panic or anything like that, but it's something that 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.800 you're sitting there going, huh, that needs to get better 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.240 because if this defense is going to be able to 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.639 take steps and get better as a defense to improve 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.520 on their what was they twenty five fourth ranking last year. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:03.360 Somewhere in. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.280 You're going to get better, then you've got to be 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:11.560 able to make improvement. Now, there's some guys that I 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.680 think that I'm excited to continue to watch. Look, I'm 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.960 excited that Josh Is. I know Josh is going to 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:21.439 get better. I expect Trayvon to to be more physical. 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.720 But also at the same time, let's compliment where compliments 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.919 are do. Walker Little's looked really good. I mean in there, 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.520 really good at left tackle obviously, and yeah, I mean 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.840 he's lined up Trayvon Walker. I talked to him today 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.800 and line it up against Walker Little and just the 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.560 size and the strength and everything that's come with Walker 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.000 Little improving over the last year. So especially it's it's 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:49.240 good to see. Yeah, he looks good, his feet are 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.800 really good, his hands are patient, he's he's not getting 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.240 out of control. Cam Robinson I think has looked strong. 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.000 His feet have been good. Josh wells Is, you know 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:06.920 he's he's looked okay, but he looks solid. I mean 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:08.840 that's Josh. I mean you don't expect him to look 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.159 as good as Walker lower Cam Robinson because there's a 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.159 reason why he's a backup swing tackle. 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:15.560 Solid veteran tackles r. 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:17.879 He've got some time today because Anton Harrison is off 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.640 to the side and he's been off thro the. 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:20.400 Side for a little bit. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.720 Yeah, you know, and that that's a little bit concerning 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.800 that Anton Harrison has not been practicing for a little bit. 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.040 So that's something to keep an eye on some of 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.040 the younger guys, you know, because you always look for 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.800 younger guys to maybe have some flashes. The one guy 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:40.199 that I'm I'm liking is Yasir Abdullah. I like his suddenness, 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:44.440 I like his ability with his hands. He's tenacious, he 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.359 practices extremely hard. I think this is a guy that 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.000 that will be able to give them some quality snaps. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.399 And he's what is he like a fifth round pick 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.479 out of Louisville's I think is what he what he was? 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.160 You know, he's not the only thing that's kind of 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.080 concerning about him is that he doesn't have great length. 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.800 He's listed at six one, two forty. That's that's the concern. 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.959 Okay, But okay, there's been guys that have been some 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.520 pretty good pass rushers that have been in this league 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:18.240 that didn't have that six ' five six six two 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:23.800 hundred and seventy pound range, and they not everybody's Javon 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.640 Kurse right well, And but there's guys like Dwight Freeni 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.600 and Robert Mathis that we saw firsthand for many years 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.040 in the division with the Indianapolis Colts that gave them 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.080 some great reps. I mean, could he be somebody like that? 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:40.600 I mean, and those are like lofty, I mean, two 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.080 of the best all time when you talk about small 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.360 time passes or small bodied pass rushers. But I mean, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:48.320 and so I'm not trying to say that he's at 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.720 that level. I'm just saying that you hope that he 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:55.600 can have somewhat of the effectiveness of those guys because 0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:01.200 they're similar body types. But I like his suddenness. Other 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:07.080 than Lacey out of uh Olaomas, Oklahoma State, he's got 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.760 some size. I think he's he's a work in progress as. 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.240 A pass rusher. He's a defensive tackle. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.719 He's one of those big, stout, strong run stuffing guys, 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.320 and he's not like a nose tackle. He's probably more 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.720 of like a three technique or a big end. And 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.359 I think as a pass rusher, he needs work and 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.560 he needs development. So the pass rush has got to 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:35.000 come from Josh and Trayvon and and somebody else. You know, 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.639 Big big Roy has got to be a factor. Of 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.439 the best inside pass rushing defensive tackle so far in 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.600 camp is the same guy that was the best last 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.280 year in season, and that's Devon Hamilton. Brandon Sheriff is 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.200 having a hell of a time trying to slow him down. 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:54.480 Devon's a big dude, man, big powerful dude, and he 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:59.200 just takes Brandon and just it's it's almost roller skates, 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:05.000 but but uh, he's a big powerful man. This PR 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.080 Production is the official event production company of the Jaguars. 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.560 They have everything you need to bring your next idea 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.160 to life. Visit PR Productions dot com. JP Shadrick, Jeff 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.360 Logoman a Jaguars happy hour. All right, so let's move 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.680 continue in the middle of that offensive line you mentioned. 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.160 Sheriff at the right guard, Shatley has been getting time 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.440 at left guard. He was out of practice today for 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.760 minor medical issues with Mark Long tweeted before practice today. 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.439 The minor medical issues are always the one that other 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.040 people have that's right, and not mind when they're happening 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.480 to you. It's funny how that works. Center Luke Fordner 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.960 year two for him, you know, the weight room in 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.160 the off season was really the big key for him. 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:47.800 Right. I haven't had a chance to chat with him. 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.000 I talked with him yesterday. What's he feel like? 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.600 Well, my first question is is you know, how what's 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.600 your weight at? Because you know, I mean he looks better, 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.840 looks maybe just a little bit bigger. And he said, 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:02.439 you know, last year he was three o eight. This 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.680 year he's the same weight, three eight. But he said, 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:06.760 obviously he goes he felt better that it's in a 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.920 better place. You know, there are three hundred and eight 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:10.840 pounds that are distributed where you want it more. 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:12.520 And uh. 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.520 He trained back in Kentucky and he said one of 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.720 the things that he really worked hard on besides the 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:22.000 typical you know, let's get big and strong, you know, weightlifting, 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:28.399 I guess you could say, uh, tools which were squat, deadlift, 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.160 those type of things. He said he did a lot 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:35.040 of functional weight training where you're doing lunges with weight 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:39.639 and things that where you're you're doing power movements, which 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:44.919 would simulate more football athletic athletic activity, not just standing 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:46.800 there and lifting weight up in but you got in 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.000 a football field and you get a three point stance. Okay, 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:53.040 it's not very often you're squat in a defensive lineman. Okay, okay, 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:58.359 you're you're extending and uh, I mean all those things 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:02.400 are you're you're trying to simulate and through different movements. 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.639 And Luke said that that was a big part of 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.359 his off season training was the functional st strength training. 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.679 He said, he feels really strong. And he said, you know, 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.639 last year, he said a lot of times there was 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.000 certain things that he would do that he goes that 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:19.800 I just didn't feel like I could hold it, and 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.359 he goes, this year, I feel like I can hold it. 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.400 So I mean, I'm kudos to him because he does 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:27.760 look he looks thinner in the face and more broad 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.360 and more defined, and so kudos him because you know, 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.520 when you're a young man and you come into this 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:39.760 league and you're sometimes twenty one years old, you're all 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.080 of a sudden getting around some guys that are almost 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:47.240 thirty okay, and they've been professional professionally training for years 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.520 and it's become their job to work out and become 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:55.080 a professional football player. So where's a guy like Fortner 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.679 and a young player. You're still growing into your body, 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.760 You're still becoming a man so to speak. I mean 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.400 a lot of times you see like the world class 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:07.160 powerlifters that are in this world or in their late twenties, 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.159 you know, because the body is still maturing and getting 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.200 stronger as you're in your twenties. There's a grown man's 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.639 strength is a real thing. Yeah, yeah, it is. And 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:19.040 so you'll see a lot of guys from the rookie 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:23.520 year into about year four to where they make tremendous progress. 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.760 And then sometimes when you get about year four, then 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.919 you start to have injuries that slow some of that 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.040 stuff down and you're just trying to maintain or make 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:36.240 smaller incremental advancements. All right, plenty more coming up Saturday, Sunday, 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.000 Monday with everything in the trenches one on ones. We'll 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.560 get some more of your analysis coming up next week 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.879 on that Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.720 the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's water it's 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.240 worth saving. And we're back in a moment with our 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:55.720 newest team member on Jaguars Broadcasting, Kai Stevens with her 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:57.840 thoughts on campus Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.640 I just want to sew your normal A great football 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.720 player you know. That's that's it. I want crew to myself. 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.879 You know that I could be the best one in 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.520 the NFL. So that's the mindset. You gotta have a 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.520 DV and I just want to win. So I'm gonna 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.280 do whatever it takes to win. And that's the mindset. 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:27.120 Like be relentless, relentless Tyson Campbell and welcome back. It's 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.800 Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint Johns 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.119 River Water Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving. 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:33.879 J P. 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:35.360 Shadrick, Jeff Vlogaman. 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.120 We're on tenon Xcel AM ninety two point five FM, 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.960 Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars Social Media as well. Kai Stevens 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:46.919 joining us now from Jaguars Am, Jaguars Reporter, Jaguars dot Com, 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.639 all the Jaguars. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.040 Things on the PM show today as well. 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.520 So welcome back, Thank you, Welcome back. Stuck around all 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.440 day you had the jags Am today. 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.160 Right, I did. I'm I'm trying to become a morning 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.600 person for the Jagsam purposes, but I am more of 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.719 a night all in general, so I do appreciate an 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:03.320 evening show. 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.639 Well, thanks for coming back. We appreciate it. 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.639 So all right, by the way, did you guys notice 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.520 the pork chop sideburns? 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.760 Yeah, Tyson Campbell. 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:14.639 He's getting it. It's a look is it a training 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:15.400 camp book only? 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.480 I know I'm digging that. Yeah, it's pretty good. I 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:23.400 mean that's like nineteen seventies, you know. I mean, I'm 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:23.840 digging it. 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.520 And when I saw Tyson when he was on his 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.280 way to the podium, that was yesterday, right, yep, Yeah, 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.680 days run together. Okay, So I'm on the way of 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.479 the podium yesterday and I'm like, sweet, sweet, I'm liking 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:36.880 that nice Tyson. 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.880 Yeah, he's we were talking about it earlier logs. 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.680 The competition that they had so cool yesterday with Calvin 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.959 Ridley and that whole thing really kind of stands out 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:48.960 as one of the highlights of the first couple of weeks. 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:49.880 I think you. 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.280 Can just see how intensely both of them are being. Obviously, 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.360 Calvin's excited to be back on the field, but Tyson's 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:56.720 just like, I think he got beat on the first 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.680 one one on one, but Calvin dropped it. But Tyson's 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.920 so mad himself, and he like immediately went over. I 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.520 think he was talking to Shay and like kind of 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.360 figure out what they were going to do, and it's 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.280 just so cool to see it every Like, obviously you 0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:08.920 want to go as hard as count in every rep, 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.640 but to actually feel like they want to beat each 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.600 other and you have to imagine that's going to make 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.280 them better when it comes to the season when they're 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.760 both going against each other in practice. 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.920 Want it gets it gets highlighted because it's right in 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.760 front of everybody. Okay, all the media is right there. 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.600 It's right there to where it's from literally center stage. Yes, 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.000 and so that makes the competition even better. And you 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.080 bring up to Shay, which is the defensive back to 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.960 cornerbacks coach, to say to Shae Townsend, I mean you 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.680 talk about even competitive him. I mean he's barking at 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.920 the officials that are there to try to help the 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:40.680 football team get better on the field. 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.600 He's barking at him because he said, now, you can't 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.920 throw a flag on my guy. You got to let 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:46.920 them have the right to space too. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.360 When your guy is holding two fistfuls of jersey, guess 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.760 what the flag is gonna come out. I was just 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:56.120 sitting there going, you know to Shae spoken like a 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.440 true former cornerback in the National Football League. What are 0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.120 you doing own that flag? That's not a flag? It's 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.960 so funny. Kai Stevens is with us. So you know, 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.760 this is this is when it gets real. Starting on Saturday. 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.520 It feels like three straight padded practices in the stadium 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.040 for one of them, big crowd expected, then back out here. 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.720 It's not quite I think I wrote today in the 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.200 campservations on Jaguars dot Com it's not quite Junction, Texas 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.840 circa nineteen fifty four. But it's as close as these 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:25.840 Jaguars will get. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:26.120 Guy. 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.600 Yeah, as training camp is now the way they do it, 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.680 and they don't do two days anymore, Jeff, which I'm 0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:32.960 sure you can tell us all about. 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:33.640 I'm jealous. 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.080 But they so that what they do now is they 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:38.640 kind of, you know, go back and forth a little bit. 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.400 They started pads on Tuesday, right, and I think Doug 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.680 was talking a little bit this the other day about 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.520 just this little stretch. I think over the weekend it'll 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.720 be those like kind of really longer padded, like really 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.480 physical practices, which you need to have at some point, right. 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.479 I mean, it is football. It's a physical game. So 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.480 as much as you want to protect your players and 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.920 you know, lengthen either their career or you know, allow 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.800 them to be their best when the season comes around 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.040 and you still have to figure out, you know, you're 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.680 playing football a little bit. So I think in this 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.000 little stretch we'll see a lot of what the team 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.240 is going to become, I guess in terms of what 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:14.040 their physicality will be, what their identity is going to be. 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.960 Because Guy's right, I mean it still football, okay. You 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:21.320 still have to establish tough toughness and discipline and the 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.840 physical toughness and the mental toughness. You have to be 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.920 able to battle through the heat. And this three day 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.520 stretch it will be the grind of training camp, you know, 0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.920 and it's the grind of the modern day training camp. 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.760 And I think that the advance, the advancements and the 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.080 changes that they now have with training camps, it's just 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.320 so smart. They've got the protective shows what I call 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.840 the Kazoo helmets on top of the helmets that helps 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.520 protect the players from collisions and prevent concussions. I mean 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:53.440 that's smart. The way that they have one practice a 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.440 day and then all walk through the second one, I 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.800 mean that's smart. I mean where were all these things 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.959 twenty some odd years ago. I mean, I mean there 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:03.680 was a lot of guys in the Union years ago 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:09.000 that were begging to have smart, sensible approaches to training 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:14.640 camp like there is today. But the old school football 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.680 guys just weren't willing to let go of that style 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:19.360 of coaching. 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:21.200 Time change. 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.560 It's a good thing to see. I mean, they got 0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.120 the cooling stations too. I was saying when we were 0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.680 off air, it must be such a difference when you 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.120 started in New York and then you come down here 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.160 and have training camp. It's just walking outside, it's like difficult. 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.120 So I have no idea how they practice currently and 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:36.120 how you did two days. 0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.800 Yeah, when I came down here, the first thing you 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.680 get used to it, I mean you acclimate to your environment. 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.480 And so the very first year of this franchise, which 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:50.040 was nineteen ninety five, we actually all got on planes 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.320 and went to Stevens Point, Wisconsin to beat the heat. 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.840 Well we go to Stevens Point in Wisconsin, and what happens, Well, 0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:00.360 it's the hottest summer on record for Steven's. 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.640 Point, wisc. Constant. Look at the front page of the 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.040 newspapers up there. 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:07.280 Cows dying in fields. Now we're sitting there going what 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.719 about us? How about us? No, but it was it 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.160 was incredibly demanding. Then the years subsequent years that we 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.840 had of all the training camps were here and you 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.520 get used to it. But I mean there were guys 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.760 that were losing, you know, because we were having full 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:24.200 padded practices twice a day that and they were lasting 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.600 three hours, and so your your amount of time recovery 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.400 time was very limited. So some guys would lose ten, 0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:34.280 lose ten, twelve, fourteen pounds in a practice and would 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.680 never get that weight back for the second practice. And 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.480 then now you're back farther than you were after the 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.520 first practice. Now you're just trying to keep your head 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.960 above water to get the weight back on and get 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.040 hydrated the for the practice the next day. And that 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.600 was a challenge, but you found a way to get 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.680 it done. If you're looking for the MVP of the 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.840 truck game, then look no further than four to f 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.480 one fifty. It's loaded with impressive capability and designed to 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:03.120 dominate workplace and everything in between. This truck makes tough 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:03.760 look easy. 0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:05.440 Your local Ford dealer. 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.319 Proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars were on Tenson xl 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.000 AM ninety two point five f M Jaguars Happy Hour, 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:15.920 j Ap Shadwick, Jeff Loghman, Ky Stevens. What's your favorite 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.200 conversation with the Jags player or coach so far this camp? 0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.960 Guy, I think I enjoy the coaches. I think we 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.120 did well. We did a hunt episode with a bunch 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.560 of the former coaches that are former players, so it's 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.759 almost all of them, almost all of them, and we 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.040 brought up to Doug and he's like, oh, I didn't 0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.520 even realize how many of them were almost our former plays. 0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:41.080 But Dashay Townsend, who's cornerbacks defensive backs coach, he's he's great. 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.480 I love him. I love Brenson Buckner and all of them, 0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.160 and just kind of like how they talk about it. 0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.439 Brentson was really funny because he was talking about when 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.480 he uses video to teach them things. He uses his 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.600 old like he has. I just imagine it's a VHS. 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.799 I imagine it's a VHS tape. I imagine he carries 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.080 a VHS tape around and he plays. 0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.040 He's he actually is smart using his tape because he 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.120 he was a really good football player. I mean when 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.200 he was in Carolina and they had that defensive line 0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:04.720 in Carolina. 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.399 They looked really good. Yeah, really good. 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:07.920 And he says as much. He calls himself out though 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.520 he's like when I'm telling you, he's like, he shows 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.080 them when he messes it up, and then he shows 0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.080 them how he fixed it. So I think you kind 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.320 of get that immediate credibility right when you're like, Okay, 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.759 he actually like did exactly what he's talking about, so 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.799 I can trust him a little bit more so the 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:22.839 players kind of really, I would imagine really a little 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:23.360 bit easier. 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.560 Those are fun. That's a good coaching So that's a 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.719 fun coaching staff. Oh no, it's Look, it's a good 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.640 coaching staff. And you know, you asked the question who 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.920 does Kay like talking to, and you brought up the coaches. 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.799 I mean, there's some great coaches and they've got great 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.120 perspective because you know, like you said, a lot of 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.840 them have played the game and now they're coaching. But 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.840 I will say this, this is one of the best 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.239 locker rooms that I've ever covered. I mean, like the 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.320 quality of the guys that Trent Balke and Doug. 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.160 Peterson, there's really no drama that I have seen. 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:54.919 I mean when you talk to guys, I mean, these 0:35:54.960 --> 0:36:00.399 guys are smart, they're well spoken, they're thoughtful, and they're 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.160 appreciative of the time that they're spending with you. They're 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.440 not trying to just ignore you and your media. I 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.920 don't have time. I mean, it's that's a credit to 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.640 the organization because those are the type of people that 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.560 you have to have to win. You can still have 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.799 a crazy here or there, okay, but you can't have a. 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.640 Whole room full of them. You kind of need a. 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.239 Crazy here there, right, so you don't need it crazy 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.560 sometimes it makes it exciting, it makes it takes a 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.400 little bit of the staleness stuff sometimes out of the 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:29.920 locker room. 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.399 Yeah, but you can't have a whole room full of them, 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:32.960 that's true. 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.960 I think there's a lot of players here at least, 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.880 you know, maybe the Wide Receiver Corps as an example, 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.040 that played other places and maybe it wasn't great. I 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.479 know we've had a couple of tops with Evan Ingram, 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.120 and he's just so appreciative of being where he is now. 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.520 When you've played other places and you know you played 0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.960 in New York, it's a whole other beast there, So 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.960 you know, Nzy Jones has traveled around and I think 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:54.880 now that they're in a good situation, they appreciate it 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.800 even more. And when you have that from your veteran players, 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.920 I can't think it trickles down to everyone else too. 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.360 So far, so good in training camp for this team. 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.080 Off day tomorrow, Kai. 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.279 I know what are we going to do with our 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:05.759 free time? 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.680 I don't know what? Yeah, how about that? 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.400 What does one do the beach? 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:12.960 Get ready for Saturday? 0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:14.759 That's true, Saturday will be good. I don't know if 0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.080 tickets are still available, but I'm excited to be in 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.359 the stadium and kind of see them in game like action. 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.840 Crowded Jaguars dot com Slash Training Camp for all the 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.120 latest info for the stadium practice and all the practices 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.319 open that remain at the middle of Electric Center. Kai 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.600 Stevens Twitter x handle What is it called now? X? 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.840 I I'm not I'm still Twitter. I still have the 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:36.399 Twitter bird. 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.839 Yes, they changed they changed mine the other day. I'm 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.200 not going automatically. What is the handle? 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.560 It's my full name. It's Kai Nani So it's k 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.239 A I n A n I Stevens S T E 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:47.960 V E N S. 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.400 Give her a follow if you haven't already. So can 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:54.799 somebody buy the name Twitter and start their own Twitter now? 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.680 Or is that still own by X? I mean logs. 0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.120 I know you did well in your career. Maybe it 0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:00.719 could be you, you know, I don't know. You have 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:01.640 to find out about that. 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.160 The new Twitter guy, Yeah, that. 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.640 Would be I'm big on Twitter. He's a big social 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.480 media of sorts. 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.520 Take on Twitch. Jeff Flagman loves it. Yeah, on it 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.840 all the time. Kai, Great to see you, Thanks for 0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.440 having me, Thanks for coming back in this afternoon anytime. 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:19.279 Ky Stevens, Jaguars reporter with US Jaguars Happy Hour is 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.680 Roger by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.240 water It's worth saving. 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.759 The injury report coming up in a moment. 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.759 Then at five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show, this is 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.000 Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.600 You gotta see higher ground. 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.319 This is a number one seed. This team needs to 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.800 be playing, getting to buy and playing with the number 0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.400 one seed. And I think it's there's possible. The schedule's favorable. 0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.960 Kansas City in week two is a bonus for you. 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.960 Buffalo in London's a bonus for you. You normally wouldn't get 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.360 those those are those are games that you have to 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.319 find a way to win. And if you find a 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.319 way to win those games with the way the rest 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.040 of the schedule is, I think you end up with. 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:08.359 Now there's always this though. They learned how to win 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.839 last year. They learned how to win close games, they 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.200 learned how to win playoff game, and learned how to 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.600 win big games. Some of these teams, like everybody's anointing 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.759 the Jets already, they haven't learned how to do it yet. 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.320 So that's a big advantage for him. But now comes 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.600 the tough part is keeping the edge to do that again. 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.160 And I think it's sustainable because of the quarterback. 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.319 Whenever you have that guy, it's sustainable. 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:34.480 Pete Frisco, CBS Sports Senior writer, joining us on Jaguars 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.359 dot Com. The full conversation available on the official team 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.960 website and the Official Jaguars podcast network. He was here 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.520 for a couple of days. It's really our annual chance 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.799 to see Pete in person. He doesn't come around during 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.359 the season. Now he knows every now and again he does. 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.040 It's very rare. Yeah, it's not very often, but for 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:54.400 a couple of big games. 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.600 He'll he'll make sure that he finds his way here 0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.399 to Jacksonville because Pete, Okay, lived here back in the day, 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.799 went all the way back to nineteen ninety five. He 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.799 was the beat writer but in Florida Times Union him 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.840 John o'sher also was with the Florida Times Union during 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.320 that era. So I used to have to talk to 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:14.840 Pete in the locker room. 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.000 How was that? It was good? 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.680 I mean, Pete was great. I got along with Pete 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:25.480 very well. He was entertaining, he was still is. He 0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:30.960 was never shy, he was never intimidated, and as a player, 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:32.920 I respected that. I mean, he had a job to 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:34.680 do and he was not afraid to do it, and 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.160 he was not afraid to ask questions that some other 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.200 ones might beat around the bush. Pete would just come 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.560 out and there it is. Here's the question. And you're like, 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:47.600 all right, I like that, yeah, No, I mean, here's 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.279 the amazing thing Pete still does. 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:50.160 Was the early days. 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.720 Jeane Furnett was in has been in the locker room 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.520 since day one, nineteen ninety five. I mean, so there's 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.200 been a couple of guys that have been around a 0:40:58.200 --> 0:40:58.720 long time. 0:40:59.239 --> 0:40:59.919 Jack war was happy. 0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:01.600 I was brought to you by the Saint John's River 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:05.920 Water Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving. Round ninety 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.600 two point five FM, tinten XL, Jaguars dot Com, Jacks 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.560 Social Media. Time Now for the injury report, presented by 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.600 Baptist Helton the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine 0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.400 provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars. A couple of players still 0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:24.080 on the active physically unable to perform list. Ben Bartch 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.480 one of those. He's been off kind of behind the 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.839 offense during teamwork, standing near the coaches, kind of simulating 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:35.319 reps when the offense is on the field. So I 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.880 mean it kind of feels like at some point you 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.240 could see him maybe make. 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.239 A move to get back to practice, I think in 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:42.839 a week or two. 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.040 Yeah, And you know, he had the knee injury last year, 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.759 and a lot of times when you have a guy 0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.680 that's that is rehabbing coming back from an injury, like 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.120 a Ben Bartch, or like a Fred's Smoot. 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.320 Okay, that's coming. 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.920 Back from Fred Smoot. 0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.920 Was didn't you go to Mississippi State? Right? Yeah? 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.640 Sorry about that. So many names in the in the 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.560 brain from back in the day, but smooth. Also, so 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.319 with a guy that tat and achilles or a guy 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:15.040 that tad and knee, sometimes you have milestones that you 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:17.840 want to reach. When I say milestones like dates, okay, 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:20.560 for example, I see it's an injury and say, okay, 0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.080 we don't want to get him back before we get 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.160 to the ten month period or an achilles. Let's make 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.360 sure we don't get him back until we get to 0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.239 nine or ten months period as well. So they're they're 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.359 kind of holding them back because they want to make 0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.759 sure that they continue to do some of the functional 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:38.959 football drills without the pressure of having other bodies around them. 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.520 And so you could if you watch during practice, Ben 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.080 BArch is not doing the drills, but he's doing a 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:48.520 lot of football movements throughout practice, and so that's good. 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:49.320 That's good. 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:51.480 And I think in the next week or two that 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.640 they will probably try to get him back out there, 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.719 and it will be interesting to see how. 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:57.320 It goes because the reality is. 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:01.120 That when when BArch got hurt last year, so Shatley 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:05.040 stepped in and did a fantastic job. Fantastic job, they 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.880 couldn't find anybody else to play better than Shatley for 0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:12.280 the remainder of the year. So this year, will BArch 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.879 earn that starting job back, will Shatley hold on to it? 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.960 And then okay, what happens if Shatley wins it and 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.680 then Cam comes back in week three. 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.280 It would be week five. 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:30.640 Five, he comes back in five, does one of those 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.600 guys Cam or Walker little move into guard and move 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.000 one of those guys out. I mean, it's just interesting 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.200 to watch. But anyway, back to the injury report, I 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:45.000 think we'll see those guys when they're ready. Doug Peterson 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.719 earlier this week mentioned Andre Cisco some hamstring tightness day 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:52.160 to day with him. Roy Robertson Harris had some heat 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.160 exhaustion Tuesday. 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:59.080 Today, Colub that's it, that's uh. It works. 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.040 When I was brought up with when Kay was in 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:05.440 here about Steven's point being the hottest summer on record, 0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:11.200 there was a budget, you know, for training camp and 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.080 the Jaguars at that time, and I think John Jones 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:15.920 I think his name was, and he was kind of 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.400 so you had different people like that worked with the organization. 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.759 Michael Hughes was kind of the general manager, but he 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.680 wasn't the general manager. Like from a personnel standpoint, because 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.279 that was Tom, But then I think it was John 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.319 Jones handled the budget and like the training camp and 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.040 all that kind of thing. Well, in the first couple 0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:39.040 of days or a week, we blew through or the 0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:42.319 team blew through the budget for ice. 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:44.399 Right. 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.560 And the way I understand it is that John was like, well, 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:50.799 we can't spend any more money. 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.400 We've already spent our money on ice and coffins like 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:59.520 you go find me some ice because of me. 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.720 We were we were literally and they had a certain 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.840 number of like little tanks that were made for getting 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.759 into but there was it was so hot and there 0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.239 were so many people that were wanting to get in 0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:16.280 the ice up. They went out to a hardware store 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.360 and they bought rubber made trash cans and literally just 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.480 started putting ice bags in them and we would just 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.600 stand in them just to get some kind of relief 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:29.680 from three hour full padded practice to a day's in 0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:34.719 record heat in Wisconsin. Anton Harrison right shoulder issue off 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.120 to the side today doing similar work to what Ben 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:41.840 Bartch is doing football movement things. Saw that today it's 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:42.560 something to watch. 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.760 I mean, look, look a shoulder with an offensive lineman, 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.560 just because I can speak from personal experience with when 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:55.000 it comes to shoulders, shoulder is one of the most 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:56.640 complicated joints in the body. 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.799 And it's not like you can hide it as alignment' 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.880 I mean you control you ride the bike every day, 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.320 and when when I say ride the bike, you control 0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:10.360 defensive lineman and block defensive lineman and everything. It all 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:15.040 comes down to shoulder strength, your your lower body placement 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.840 and balance, and then the ability to transfer that lower 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.680 body power through the upper body to control a defender. 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.800 And that controlling if you have a shoulder end of 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:30.520 your injury, that's hard to do. So that's I'm not 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.080 trying to sound alarms. I'm just saying that this is 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.000 something that bears watching because you have a first round pick, 0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:40.080 rookie tackle that you're expecting to be your opening day 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.560 start at right tackle because of the suspension of Cam 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.640 Robinson and he's missed a couple of days with the 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:47.560 shoulder injury. I'm just saying, let's just keep an eye 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.680 on it. Let's s day off tomorrow and see what 0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.040 happens if they roll him out there on Saturday in 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.359 the stadium, or wait another day and then you know. 0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.760 We'll see. I don't know we'll see, but something worth watching. 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.920 Calvin Ridley, we mentioned him sore foot, he said, not 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:04.000 expected to linger. He changed cleats and got through practice. 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:08.279 Tyler Shatley out today. Doug Peterson Show is coming up 0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.440 in just a moment, and Hey, you're going to be 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.160 at the Bank this fall, and if you're a Jags 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.400 fan who's always on the move, we've got the perfect 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.520 plan for you. With our bundle at the Bank, you 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.319 can purchase tickets to three or more games starting at 0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:25.319 just fifty eight dollars per game. 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Of course, 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:50.160 we'll also hear a conversation I had this week with 0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:56.360 Travis Etn Junior Jaguars running back Good headspace, good athlete, 0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:01.160 thirty year in the league, speedy, he always wants to 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:04.239 take the distance, but is improving between the tackles, and 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.200 that's been a focus I think in this offseason is 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:12.480 how to kind of keep it, keep defenses guessing as 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:16.399 to where he's going. Yeah, and it's fun watching that 0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:20.080 position group. I mean when we talk about the depth, 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.120 you and I talked a little bit about it last 0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.719 week about the depth at the tackle position, and there's 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.839 not many teams in the National Football League that can 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.200 withstand a suspension or an injury to one of their 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.680 starting tackles, where this team has done a great job. 0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.520 Credit to the Trent Balky and his staff for getting 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.920 some really good tackles. This running backs room, his running 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.640 backs room is deep too. Now you're talking about having 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.799 etn and and then you got a draft pick who 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.680 I think tank is doing a really good job of 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:54.480 minimizing the movements to get north and south. And he's 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.239 a big back, so when it gets live, I think 0:48:56.280 --> 0:49:00.160 we're going to see even more specialness from him. You 0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.600 got to Michael Hasty last year who was a really 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.480 nice change of pace guy, and Denis Johnson this year 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:06.759 is added. 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:11.000 To the mix. This is a really really good group. 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.239 Plenty ahead, The Doug Peterson Show is coming up in 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.759 just a moment on the Jaguars Radio networker Thanks to 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:21.120 Kay Stevens for joining us Jaguars dot Com reporter. Thanks 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.600 to our entire crew for Jeff Logoman, I'm JP Shadwick. 0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:29.400 Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Radio 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.360 Network coverage coming up to Doug Peterson Show in just 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:32.840 a moment.