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Speaker 3: Happy Hour for the next hour of course, and then
Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock on the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: Week two of training camp has come to a close.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars are off tomorrow and then it gets physical,
Speaker 3: it gets hot, it gets real Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up early O line d
Speaker 1: line one on one drills.
Speaker 3: We'll get logoman's take on how those have gone the
Speaker 3: first couple of days, and pads, wide receivers and DB's
Speaker 3: as well, getting some work in. As we said the
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson Show five o'clock. Well recap some of the
Speaker 3: comments from head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week. Jeff
Speaker 3: Loghman Jaguars Analysts joining me now from the Hyundai studios
Speaker 3: at the Miller Electric Center. Good afternoon, Logs, Good afternoon, JP.
Speaker 3: You doing good, I'm great man. Two weeks of training
Speaker 3: campdown well kind of.
Speaker 1: What eight practices?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say two weeks, but into it
Speaker 3: eight practices.
Speaker 1: What two of them in pads, right, Tuesday Wednesday? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 3: Originally I think the plan was was for them to
Speaker 3: have pads on Monday. That was kind of the expectation
Speaker 3: that it got moved back to Tuesday, and so you
Speaker 3: had two padded practices and then today it was back into.
Speaker 1: What it's called.
Speaker 3: Some people are calling it pass shoulder pads, but they're
Speaker 3: not shoulder pads. Are called spider shells, and so when
Speaker 3: you're in spider shelves, Just so people know, it's there's
Speaker 3: no live contact, Okay, It's just.
Speaker 1: All it is.
Speaker 3: It's a a device that goes on your shoulders that
Speaker 3: literally is like a webbing of pads. It's not doesn't
Speaker 3: have any hard plastic to it whatsoever. It's all a
Speaker 3: soft material and it's just designed so that if two
Speaker 3: people collide, it gives just a little cushion. You're not
Speaker 3: doing thud tempo or it's basically the same material that
Speaker 3: they make knee pads out of. Okay, but it's in
Speaker 3: a spider web arrangement across the tops of the shoulders.
Speaker 3: But it is not a contact piece of equipment. So
Speaker 3: I men, some people get confused by that. Some people
Speaker 3: call them shoulder pads. They're not shoulder pads, Okay, They're
Speaker 3: just called spider pads. There's a big difference. No contact, none,
Speaker 3: no live contact in spider pads. So you'll get more
Speaker 3: of your your real work in your evaluation. A lot
Speaker 3: of it will come when they have true shoulder pads.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 3: In the last two days, I think we're we're awesome.
Speaker 3: I mean, you get to you get to watch, you know,
Speaker 3: because everybody looks.
Speaker 1: Good when it's in shorts. I mean, you know we
Speaker 1: used to call the shorts.
Speaker 3: Well no, I wouldn't go that, come on, lot, But
Speaker 3: you know you talk about the underwear Olympics in football,
Speaker 3: you know, where you have guys at shorts and you're running,
Speaker 3: you're doing drills and all that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 3: everybody can look really good in that, well almost everybody. Okay,
Speaker 3: you and I cannot look good doing that anymore. I
Speaker 3: can't do it anymore, not at all, okay, but but
Speaker 3: all football players, for the most part, on a ninety
Speaker 3: man roster, when when there's no pads, they look, hey, he's.
Speaker 1: Got a little something.
Speaker 3: I mean, they look like they all belong. But then
Speaker 3: when the pads go on, look there's guys that get
Speaker 3: weeded out, and guys look like they belong and some
Speaker 3: look like they don't belong. And that's just kind of
Speaker 3: part of it. And it's you know, you got a
Speaker 3: little bit of an evaluation with two days, and then
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get a really good evaluation because
Speaker 3: you're you're now starting to enter I don't know if
Speaker 3: there really is such a thing anymore with training camp
Speaker 3: being modified the way it is with collective bargaining. But
Speaker 3: it's the grind, okay, it's the modern day grind of
Speaker 3: training camp, which is the window that you get into
Speaker 3: well essentially a week out from the first preseason game.
Speaker 1: You're going against the same.
Speaker 3: Guys, the weather's hot, you're tired, you know, you're tired
Speaker 3: going against the same guys day in and day out.
Speaker 3: You sometimes get tired of smelling the guys bo next
Speaker 3: to you day in and day out, and you're ready
Speaker 3: for something different, and that's why I think the tempers
Speaker 3: can flare a little bit. So, I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be surprised if you had maybe a push shove altercation
Speaker 3: at some point on Saturday or Sunday or Monday. And
Speaker 3: when you put three days together in pads, back to
Speaker 3: back to back, and at this window, this particular juncture
Speaker 3: of training camp, yeah, things can get a little testy.
Speaker 3: The Saturday practice inside the stadium. I was told today
Speaker 3: there's a huge response for tickets for that and should
Speaker 3: be a big crowd, little elevated atmosphere, if you will.
Speaker 3: And then back to the practice field for what could
Speaker 3: be should be the longest practice so far in training camp.
Speaker 3: I think it's on the schedule almost two and a
Speaker 3: half hours on Sunday Sunday, yes, okay, and then Monday
Speaker 3: of course. So yeah, you're right that the intensity will
Speaker 3: continue to ramp up. Its Jaguar's happy. How I brought
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Speaker 3: in stadium practice and yeah, you know there's some coaches
Speaker 3: that like to get away, have no crowds have no
Speaker 3: quote unquote distractions. And the smart coaches, and Doug is
Speaker 3: one of them, they realize that when you have fans
Speaker 3: and attendance, it has a tendency to heighten the awareness,
Speaker 3: heighten the intensity because you're performing not just against your teammates,
Speaker 3: but you're also performing in front of people. And when
Speaker 3: there's more eyes on you JP. I mean that's why
Speaker 3: Monday Night and Sunday Night and all those other National
Speaker 3: TV games. I mean, guys get pumped because they know
Speaker 3: there's more eyeballs on them. And so when you have
Speaker 3: a practice that's in front of lots of eyeballs, the
Speaker 3: intensity can get raised a little bit. And as a
Speaker 3: coach or an evaluator, if you're Trent Balky and his staff,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the kind of environment that you want
Speaker 3: to have to evaluate some of the players that you
Speaker 3: have on your roster. Where it's a heightened environment. You'll
Speaker 3: get that on Saturday in the stadium. You'll get that
Speaker 3: against the Detroit Lions next week or excuse me, in
Speaker 3: two weeks. And that's a good thing. I mean, those
Speaker 3: practices with other teams and there's fans and attendance, but
Speaker 3: you know, and again there's more eyeballs that are watching it,
Speaker 3: and there's.
Speaker 1: Other eyeballs from the other team, you know, and it
Speaker 1: makes that intensity go up.
Speaker 3: And he realized that, hey, look, you know, some of
Speaker 3: these young guys they might be auditioning for a in
Speaker 3: Detroit because there may be no room for them here
Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. You never know, we'll get some of your
Speaker 3: evaluation of the offensive line, defensive line one on one work.
Speaker 3: I know you were all over that yesterday, watched it live,
Speaker 3: watched it on film. Yeah, I mean, that's that's a
Speaker 3: big part of evaluation when they go in the past.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that coming up in just a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest story of camp though so far,
Speaker 3: has been Calvin Ridley and his impact what he could
Speaker 3: bring to this Jaguars offense. The first week of camp,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the fans were just amazed at
Speaker 3: what he could do in terms of running routes and
Speaker 3: they haven't seen that in a while around here. Yesterday, though,
Speaker 3: there was a lot going on. Let's say, Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: before practice said he had some toast soreness. Well, then
Speaker 3: later he comes out he played practiced the entire practice
Speaker 3: because he changed cleats was a cleat issue that was
Speaker 3: causing some soreness in the bottom of his foot. He
Speaker 3: said he got through practice yesterday, but he also had
Speaker 3: at least four drops during team work yesterday, and he
Speaker 3: was asked after practice today about being rusty. Here's his response.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm never gonna think I'm gonna be rusty. No,
Speaker 4: if I drop a pass, that's not mean I'm rusty.
Speaker 1: I just dropped that. I was so wet yesterday I
Speaker 1: couldn't keep.
Speaker 4: It on my body and a player like me, I'm
Speaker 4: never gonna think it's rust you know. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 1: It's training camp.
Speaker 4: What the day is at eight pretty sore today, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So, Nah, I'm not rusty. And
Speaker 4: yesterday I look at that I did so much good,
Speaker 4: and yesterday I did so much good and it was
Speaker 4: some bad. You know, there's gonna be some good and bad,
Speaker 4: and I look at it as a win. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm out here in this training camp, like I said,
Speaker 4: I gotta get through this, like that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: I know how hard training camp is, and this is
Speaker 4: probably one of the hardest training camps I've ever been in,
Speaker 4: So I know that I gotta continue to work to
Speaker 4: get better to be dominant come day game one.
Speaker 1: So that's Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 3: Any means that because he hasn't been in one in
Speaker 3: a while, right, obviously it's been a minute since he's
Speaker 3: been in the training camp. It's a big year for him.
Speaker 3: How does he battle through a little adversity this week
Speaker 3: and move forward?
Speaker 1: I think you heard from there.
Speaker 3: Let me go back because you said that we haven't
Speaker 3: seen that in a while around here about how he
Speaker 3: runs routes, I would disagree with that. I think I
Speaker 3: think Christian Kirk and Jay Jones are two of outstanding
Speaker 3: route runners. I think it's a little bit he's just
Speaker 3: a different player. I think it's a better way to
Speaker 3: put it. Okay, he's got definitely a level of quickness.
Speaker 3: The way he comes in and out of breaks is
Speaker 3: a little different. But I mean, look, Christian Kirk comes
Speaker 3: in and out of breaks in an incredibly fast fashion.
Speaker 3: Jay Jones might be one of the best sell jobs
Speaker 3: when it comes to routes on movement with the head
Speaker 3: to make to move defensive backs in one way or another,
Speaker 3: or safeties to one way or another that there.
Speaker 1: Is in a national football league.
Speaker 3: So but he is a different athlete because he combined speed, quickness,
Speaker 3: and rot running ability all in one. And so he's
Speaker 3: kind of a combination of different players. And you know,
Speaker 3: we were trying to figure out, I mean, what who
Speaker 3: would you compare him to to somebody that's played recently
Speaker 3: in the league or something of that nature, and the
Speaker 3: name Antonio Brown came up. And Antonio Brown the first
Speaker 3: thing people think of when you think of Antonio Brown
Speaker 3: as the negative, but think of the positive that Antonio
Speaker 3: Brown used to do when he was with Pittsburgh and
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger about same size, got speed, you know, the
Speaker 3: catching the balls and everything similar. Now a little different player.
Speaker 3: But it's fun to watch Calvin really. And there was
Speaker 3: a moment in yesterday's practice to where things got heated
Speaker 3: and one on once I'm talking to heat it so
Speaker 3: wide receiver corner stuff you're talking about, right, So Calvin
Speaker 3: was having issues dropping the ball and then you know
Speaker 3: there's flags flying, there's it's competition, right, there's all that
Speaker 3: going on. There's a little bit of you know, chirping,
Speaker 3: but not that it was get a little elevator, it was,
Speaker 3: but it was it was never going over the top,
Speaker 3: that's right. It was just intense competition because it started
Speaker 3: out Tyson Campbell's line up against against Calvin and look
Speaker 3: at this is high level competition. I mean you got
Speaker 3: two alpha dogs lining up in front you, in front
Speaker 3: of each other, and it's competitive and everybody's watching and
Speaker 3: they know it.
Speaker 1: And there were some.
Speaker 3: Penalty flags that were thrown and then uh then they
Speaker 3: had like I want to say, two or three matches,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, Darius Williams wants to
Speaker 3: chirp a little bit and Calvin Ridley says, you get
Speaker 3: out there, come on, bring it, and they and they do,
Speaker 3: and then Darius Williams goes out there and Darius Williams
Speaker 3: gets called for a flag on Calvin Ridley. I mean
Speaker 3: this was I mean, this was great stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is this is high level competition, and this is
Speaker 3: the kind of stuff that makes the elite players what
Speaker 3: they are, I mean, highly competitive, and it makes everybody
Speaker 3: better and it's fun to watch. I mean when we're
Speaker 3: sitting there watching all this go down, I mean, this
Speaker 3: was fantastic. I talked to Darius Williams today and the
Speaker 3: interview will be on the Official Jaguars podcast network coming
Speaker 3: up very soon. Not a guy that goes on the
Speaker 3: record a lot. He's not a big media guy, but
Speaker 3: when he talks, he has a lot to say. And
Speaker 3: he mentioned those receivers and that type of competition helping
Speaker 3: the corners get better too.
Speaker 1: It goes both ways.
Speaker 3: I mean, when you have that type of level of
Speaker 3: receiver going at you like that, it helps the entire
Speaker 3: team get better. I had a conversation with Zay Jones,
Speaker 3: I can't remember if it was yesterday or the day before,
Speaker 3: and was just talking to him about the room, you know,
Speaker 3: the wide receiver room, and I asked him, I said, look,
Speaker 3: is this the best room you've ever been in? And
Speaker 3: what I mean by room when I'm using that term,
Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily mean the collection of talent or the
Speaker 3: skill set. It means the quality of the people that
Speaker 3: are in the room and how they collectively go to work.
Speaker 3: Because that's the one thing that was so impressive last year.
Speaker 3: You heard me JP, and we were talking about this
Speaker 3: many times last year, about how important it was to
Speaker 3: have a hard working group of wide receivers for a
Speaker 3: young quarterback and Trevor Lawrence and these guys came to
Speaker 3: work and practice every day. In Zay Jones and Christian Kirk,
Speaker 3: it was awesome to watch. And Evan Ingram I'd put
Speaker 3: him in that group as well, and Zay said, yes,
Speaker 3: it's the best room that he's ever been in, he said,
Speaker 3: and Calvin definitely raises the level of that room up
Speaker 3: just because of his abilities. But the thing that's impressive,
Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about some of the hardest working
Speaker 3: team first guys that I've ever seen. Now I don't
Speaker 3: haven't seen enough of Calvin really, there's no not enough
Speaker 3: track record to say that he's into that same mold
Speaker 3: as as Zay or Christian because they showed it last
Speaker 3: year and so you got to still see a little
Speaker 3: bit of that, but you expect it because the way
Speaker 3: that he comes to work every day, He's there to
Speaker 3: play football and to work hard, and that's that's been
Speaker 3: impressive to watch. Had a conversation wide receivers coach Chad
Speaker 3: Hall said the same thing, and it's been fun watching
Speaker 3: Chadthall and a lot of people know that he's a
Speaker 3: new coach on the staff. Came from the Buffalo bills.
Speaker 3: He has been nothing short of impressive in my eyes,
Speaker 3: how he communicates with these guys, how the guys respond
Speaker 3: to him, Because a lot of times you can have
Speaker 3: the greatest message in the world as a coach, but
Speaker 3: if it's not being heard, it doesn't matter how good
Speaker 3: that message is. And Chadthall, you can tell, has a
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Speaker 3: I know, but I'm kind of burly all the time,
Speaker 3: so am I. You're looking good though yet I didn't
Speaker 3: want to say it, but you brought it up, all right,
Speaker 3: so Josh Allen, that brings us into the pass rush
Speaker 3: one on one conversation. I know you were right there
Speaker 3: on the doorstep yesterday to see some of those matchups,
Speaker 3: and that's really a fun part of camp for you.
Speaker 3: I know Biselli loves that stuff too. Just to kind
Speaker 3: of get an idea of what's going on two days
Speaker 3: into those one on one what what what is the
Speaker 3: I guess the general theme of what stands out on
Speaker 3: the defensive side.
Speaker 1: First overall, the offense is winning.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I mean that's that's if you look
Speaker 3: at and you want to paint a big picture of
Speaker 3: the offensive line is winning.
Speaker 1: Is that normal this time of camp? Or is that no?
Speaker 3: I mean usually it's kind of fifty to fifty a
Speaker 3: little bit. I mean, but for the most part, this
Speaker 3: offensive line is is winning. And that's concerning You want
Speaker 3: to have the defensive line unless you're the offensive line, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly love it. If you're a Phil Phil Rauscher, you're like,
Speaker 3: you know, the offensive line could You're like this is great?
Speaker 3: You know, And look, I'm not saying that the offensive
Speaker 3: line is winning every one of them, but they're winning
Speaker 3: the majority of them. And this is a drill that
Speaker 3: it's kind of advantage defense a little bit. You know,
Speaker 3: there's no chipping, there's no help from another offensive lineman,
Speaker 3: there's no play action that might slow you down as
Speaker 3: a pass rusher. You're trying to get to one spot.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not like there's a moving quarterback and
Speaker 3: there's bootlegs and everything else. So this is kind of
Speaker 3: a drill. Much like seven on seven passing drill is
Speaker 3: advantage offense. One on one pass rush should be advantage defense.
Speaker 3: And the defense is not winning at the rate that
Speaker 3: I would expect in this drill. And and that's a
Speaker 3: little bit concerning. And the guys that you would expect
Speaker 3: to win more than others or at a higher percentage.
Speaker 1: You know, your your.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's, your Trayvon Walker, they're not winning more than
Speaker 3: anybody else. I mean, So that's something to keep an
Speaker 3: eye on it. It's early in camp. It's not time
Speaker 3: to panic or anything like that, but it's something that
Speaker 3: you're sitting there going, huh, that needs to get better
Speaker 3: because if this defense is going to be able to
Speaker 3: take steps and get better as a defense to improve
Speaker 3: on their what was they twenty five fourth ranking last year.
Speaker 1: Somewhere in.
Speaker 3: You're going to get better, then you've got to be
Speaker 3: able to make improvement. Now, there's some guys that I
Speaker 3: think that I'm excited to continue to watch. Look, I'm
Speaker 3: excited that Josh Is. I know Josh is going to
Speaker 3: get better. I expect Trayvon to to be more physical.
Speaker 3: But also at the same time, let's compliment where compliments
Speaker 3: are do. Walker Little's looked really good. I mean in there,
Speaker 3: really good at left tackle obviously, and yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: he's lined up Trayvon Walker. I talked to him today
Speaker 3: and line it up against Walker Little and just the
Speaker 3: size and the strength and everything that's come with Walker
Speaker 3: Little improving over the last year. So especially it's it's
Speaker 3: good to see. Yeah, he looks good, his feet are
Speaker 3: really good, his hands are patient, he's he's not getting
Speaker 3: out of control. Cam Robinson I think has looked strong.
Speaker 3: His feet have been good. Josh wells Is, you know
Speaker 3: he's he's looked okay, but he looks solid. I mean
Speaker 3: that's Josh. I mean you don't expect him to look
Speaker 3: as good as Walker lower Cam Robinson because there's a
Speaker 3: reason why he's a backup swing tackle.
Speaker 1: Solid veteran tackles r.
Speaker 3: He've got some time today because Anton Harrison is off
Speaker 3: to the side and he's been off thro the.
Speaker 1: Side for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and that that's a little bit concerning
Speaker 3: that Anton Harrison has not been practicing for a little bit.
Speaker 3: So that's something to keep an eye on some of
Speaker 3: the younger guys, you know, because you always look for
Speaker 3: younger guys to maybe have some flashes. The one guy
Speaker 3: that I'm I'm liking is Yasir Abdullah. I like his suddenness,
Speaker 3: I like his ability with his hands. He's tenacious, he
Speaker 3: practices extremely hard. I think this is a guy that
Speaker 3: that will be able to give them some quality snaps.
Speaker 3: And he's what is he like a fifth round pick
Speaker 3: out of Louisville's I think is what he what he was?
Speaker 3: You know, he's not the only thing that's kind of
Speaker 3: concerning about him is that he doesn't have great length.
Speaker 1: He's listed at six one, two forty. That's that's the concern.
Speaker 3: Okay, But okay, there's been guys that have been some
Speaker 3: pretty good pass rushers that have been in this league
Speaker 3: that didn't have that six ' five six six two
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy pound range, and they not everybody's Javon
Speaker 3: Kurse right well, And but there's guys like Dwight Freeni
Speaker 3: and Robert Mathis that we saw firsthand for many years
Speaker 3: in the division with the Indianapolis Colts that gave them
Speaker 3: some great reps. I mean, could he be somebody like that?
Speaker 3: I mean, and those are like lofty, I mean, two
Speaker 3: of the best all time when you talk about small
Speaker 3: time passes or small bodied pass rushers. But I mean,
Speaker 3: and so I'm not trying to say that he's at
Speaker 3: that level. I'm just saying that you hope that he
Speaker 3: can have somewhat of the effectiveness of those guys because
Speaker 3: they're similar body types. But I like his suddenness. Other
Speaker 3: than Lacey out of uh Olaomas, Oklahoma State, he's got
Speaker 3: some size. I think he's he's a work in progress as.
Speaker 1: A pass rusher. He's a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: He's one of those big, stout, strong run stuffing guys,
Speaker 3: and he's not like a nose tackle. He's probably more
Speaker 3: of like a three technique or a big end. And
Speaker 3: I think as a pass rusher, he needs work and
Speaker 3: he needs development. So the pass rush has got to
Speaker 3: come from Josh and Trayvon and and somebody else. You know,
Speaker 3: Big big Roy has got to be a factor. Of
Speaker 3: the best inside pass rushing defensive tackle so far in
Speaker 3: camp is the same guy that was the best last
Speaker 3: year in season, and that's Devon Hamilton. Brandon Sheriff is
Speaker 3: having a hell of a time trying to slow him down.
Speaker 3: Devon's a big dude, man, big powerful dude, and he
Speaker 3: just takes Brandon and just it's it's almost roller skates,
Speaker 3: but but uh, he's a big powerful man. This PR
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Speaker 3: Logoman a Jaguars happy hour. All right, so let's move
Speaker 3: continue in the middle of that offensive line you mentioned.
Speaker 3: Sheriff at the right guard, Shatley has been getting time
Speaker 3: at left guard. He was out of practice today for
Speaker 3: minor medical issues with Mark Long tweeted before practice today.
Speaker 3: The minor medical issues are always the one that other
Speaker 3: people have that's right, and not mind when they're happening
Speaker 3: to you. It's funny how that works. Center Luke Fordner
Speaker 3: year two for him, you know, the weight room in
Speaker 3: the off season was really the big key for him.
Speaker 1: Right. I haven't had a chance to chat with him.
Speaker 1: I talked with him yesterday. What's he feel like?
Speaker 3: Well, my first question is is you know, how what's
Speaker 3: your weight at? Because you know, I mean he looks better,
Speaker 3: looks maybe just a little bit bigger. And he said,
Speaker 3: you know, last year he was three o eight. This
Speaker 3: year he's the same weight, three eight. But he said,
Speaker 3: obviously he goes he felt better that it's in a
Speaker 3: better place. You know, there are three hundred and eight
Speaker 3: pounds that are distributed where you want it more.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 3: He trained back in Kentucky and he said one of
Speaker 3: the things that he really worked hard on besides the
Speaker 3: typical you know, let's get big and strong, you know, weightlifting,
Speaker 3: I guess you could say, uh, tools which were squat, deadlift,
Speaker 3: those type of things. He said he did a lot
Speaker 3: of functional weight training where you're doing lunges with weight
Speaker 3: and things that where you're you're doing power movements, which
Speaker 3: would simulate more football athletic athletic activity, not just standing
Speaker 3: there and lifting weight up in but you got in
Speaker 3: a football field and you get a three point stance. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's not very often you're squat in a defensive lineman. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: you're you're extending and uh, I mean all those things
Speaker 3: are you're you're trying to simulate and through different movements.
Speaker 3: And Luke said that that was a big part of
Speaker 3: his off season training was the functional st strength training.
Speaker 3: He said, he feels really strong. And he said, you know,
Speaker 3: last year, he said a lot of times there was
Speaker 3: certain things that he would do that he goes that
Speaker 3: I just didn't feel like I could hold it, and
Speaker 3: he goes, this year, I feel like I can hold it.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm kudos to him because he does
Speaker 3: look he looks thinner in the face and more broad
Speaker 3: and more defined, and so kudos him because you know,
Speaker 3: when you're a young man and you come into this
Speaker 3: league and you're sometimes twenty one years old, you're all
Speaker 3: of a sudden getting around some guys that are almost
Speaker 3: thirty okay, and they've been professional professionally training for years
Speaker 3: and it's become their job to work out and become
Speaker 3: a professional football player. So where's a guy like Fortner
Speaker 3: and a young player. You're still growing into your body,
Speaker 3: You're still becoming a man so to speak. I mean
Speaker 3: a lot of times you see like the world class
Speaker 3: powerlifters that are in this world or in their late twenties,
Speaker 3: you know, because the body is still maturing and getting
Speaker 3: stronger as you're in your twenties. There's a grown man's
Speaker 3: strength is a real thing. Yeah, yeah, it is. And
Speaker 3: so you'll see a lot of guys from the rookie
Speaker 3: year into about year four to where they make tremendous progress.
Speaker 3: And then sometimes when you get about year four, then
Speaker 3: you start to have injuries that slow some of that
Speaker 3: stuff down and you're just trying to maintain or make
Speaker 3: smaller incremental advancements. All right, plenty more coming up Saturday, Sunday,
Speaker 3: Monday with everything in the trenches one on ones. We'll
Speaker 3: get some more of your analysis coming up next week
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Speaker 5: I just want to sew your normal A great football
Speaker 5: player you know. That's that's it. I want crew to myself.
Speaker 5: You know that I could be the best one in
Speaker 5: the NFL. So that's the mindset. You gotta have a
Speaker 5: DV and I just want to win. So I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do whatever it takes to win. And that's the mindset.
Speaker 3: Like be relentless, relentless Tyson Campbell and welcome back. It's
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Speaker 3: joining us now from Jaguars Am, Jaguars Reporter, Jaguars dot Com,
Speaker 3: all the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Things on the PM show today as well.
Speaker 1: So welcome back, Thank you, Welcome back. Stuck around all
Speaker 1: day you had the jags Am today.
Speaker 2: Right, I did. I'm I'm trying to become a morning
Speaker 2: person for the Jagsam purposes, but I am more of
Speaker 2: a night all in general, so I do appreciate an
Speaker 2: evening show.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming back. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3: So all right, by the way, did you guys notice
Speaker 3: the pork chop sideburns?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyson Campbell.
Speaker 2: He's getting it. It's a look is it a training
Speaker 2: camp book only?
Speaker 1: I know I'm digging that. Yeah, it's pretty good. I
Speaker 1: mean that's like nineteen seventies, you know. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: digging it.
Speaker 3: And when I saw Tyson when he was on his
Speaker 3: way to the podium, that was yesterday, right, yep, Yeah,
Speaker 3: days run together. Okay, So I'm on the way of
Speaker 3: the podium yesterday and I'm like, sweet, sweet, I'm liking
Speaker 3: that nice Tyson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's we were talking about it earlier logs.
Speaker 3: The competition that they had so cool yesterday with Calvin
Speaker 3: Ridley and that whole thing really kind of stands out
Speaker 3: as one of the highlights of the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I think you.
Speaker 2: Can just see how intensely both of them are being. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Calvin's excited to be back on the field, but Tyson's
Speaker 2: just like, I think he got beat on the first
Speaker 2: one one on one, but Calvin dropped it. But Tyson's
Speaker 2: so mad himself, and he like immediately went over. I
Speaker 2: think he was talking to Shay and like kind of
Speaker 2: figure out what they were going to do, and it's
Speaker 2: just so cool to see it every Like, obviously you
Speaker 2: want to go as hard as count in every rep,
Speaker 2: but to actually feel like they want to beat each
Speaker 2: other and you have to imagine that's going to make
Speaker 2: them better when it comes to the season when they're
Speaker 2: both going against each other in practice.
Speaker 3: Want it gets it gets highlighted because it's right in
Speaker 3: front of everybody. Okay, all the media is right there.
Speaker 3: It's right there to where it's from literally center stage. Yes,
Speaker 3: and so that makes the competition even better. And you
Speaker 3: bring up to Shay, which is the defensive back to
Speaker 3: cornerbacks coach, to say to Shae Townsend, I mean you
Speaker 3: talk about even competitive him. I mean he's barking at
Speaker 3: the officials that are there to try to help the
Speaker 3: football team get better on the field.
Speaker 1: He's barking at him because he said, now, you can't
Speaker 1: throw a flag on my guy. You got to let
Speaker 1: them have the right to space too.
Speaker 3: When your guy is holding two fistfuls of jersey, guess
Speaker 3: what the flag is gonna come out. I was just
Speaker 3: sitting there going, you know to Shae spoken like a
Speaker 3: true former cornerback in the National Football League. What are
Speaker 3: you doing own that flag? That's not a flag? It's
Speaker 3: so funny. Kai Stevens is with us. So you know,
Speaker 3: this is this is when it gets real. Starting on Saturday.
Speaker 3: It feels like three straight padded practices in the stadium
Speaker 3: for one of them, big crowd expected, then back out here.
Speaker 3: It's not quite I think I wrote today in the
Speaker 3: campservations on Jaguars dot Com it's not quite Junction, Texas
Speaker 3: circa nineteen fifty four. But it's as close as these
Speaker 3: Jaguars will get.
Speaker 1: Guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as training camp is now the way they do it,
Speaker 2: and they don't do two days anymore, Jeff, which I'm
Speaker 2: sure you can tell us all about.
Speaker 1: I'm jealous.
Speaker 2: But they so that what they do now is they
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, go back and forth a little bit.
Speaker 2: They started pads on Tuesday, right, and I think Doug
Speaker 2: was talking a little bit this the other day about
Speaker 2: just this little stretch. I think over the weekend it'll
Speaker 2: be those like kind of really longer padded, like really
Speaker 2: physical practices, which you need to have at some point, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is football. It's a physical game. So
Speaker 2: as much as you want to protect your players and
Speaker 2: you know, lengthen either their career or you know, allow
Speaker 2: them to be their best when the season comes around
Speaker 2: and you still have to figure out, you know, you're
Speaker 2: playing football a little bit. So I think in this
Speaker 2: little stretch we'll see a lot of what the team
Speaker 2: is going to become, I guess in terms of what
Speaker 2: their physicality will be, what their identity is going to be.
Speaker 3: Because Guy's right, I mean it still football, okay. You
Speaker 3: still have to establish tough toughness and discipline and the
Speaker 3: physical toughness and the mental toughness. You have to be
Speaker 3: able to battle through the heat. And this three day
Speaker 3: stretch it will be the grind of training camp, you know,
Speaker 3: and it's the grind of the modern day training camp.
Speaker 3: And I think that the advance, the advancements and the
Speaker 3: changes that they now have with training camps, it's just
Speaker 3: so smart. They've got the protective shows what I call
Speaker 3: the Kazoo helmets on top of the helmets that helps
Speaker 3: protect the players from collisions and prevent concussions. I mean
Speaker 3: that's smart. The way that they have one practice a
Speaker 3: day and then all walk through the second one, I
Speaker 3: mean that's smart. I mean where were all these things
Speaker 3: twenty some odd years ago. I mean, I mean there
Speaker 3: was a lot of guys in the Union years ago
Speaker 3: that were begging to have smart, sensible approaches to training
Speaker 3: camp like there is today. But the old school football
Speaker 3: guys just weren't willing to let go of that style
Speaker 3: of coaching.
Speaker 1: Time change.
Speaker 2: It's a good thing to see. I mean, they got
Speaker 2: the cooling stations too. I was saying when we were
Speaker 2: off air, it must be such a difference when you
Speaker 2: started in New York and then you come down here
Speaker 2: and have training camp. It's just walking outside, it's like difficult.
Speaker 2: So I have no idea how they practice currently and
Speaker 2: how you did two days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I came down here, the first thing you
Speaker 3: get used to it, I mean you acclimate to your environment.
Speaker 3: And so the very first year of this franchise, which
Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety five, we actually all got on planes
Speaker 3: and went to Stevens Point, Wisconsin to beat the heat.
Speaker 3: Well we go to Stevens Point in Wisconsin, and what happens, Well,
Speaker 3: it's the hottest summer on record for Steven's.
Speaker 1: Point, wisc. Constant. Look at the front page of the
Speaker 1: newspapers up there.
Speaker 3: Cows dying in fields. Now we're sitting there going what
Speaker 3: about us? How about us? No, but it was it
Speaker 3: was incredibly demanding. Then the years subsequent years that we
Speaker 3: had of all the training camps were here and you
Speaker 3: get used to it. But I mean there were guys
Speaker 3: that were losing, you know, because we were having full
Speaker 3: padded practices twice a day that and they were lasting
Speaker 3: three hours, and so your your amount of time recovery
Speaker 3: time was very limited. So some guys would lose ten,
Speaker 3: lose ten, twelve, fourteen pounds in a practice and would
Speaker 3: never get that weight back for the second practice. And
Speaker 3: then now you're back farther than you were after the
Speaker 3: first practice. Now you're just trying to keep your head
Speaker 3: above water to get the weight back on and get
Speaker 3: hydrated the for the practice the next day. And that
Speaker 3: was a challenge, but you found a way to get
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Speaker 3: j Ap Shadwick, Jeff Loghman, Ky Stevens. What's your favorite
Speaker 3: conversation with the Jags player or coach so far this camp?
Speaker 2: Guy, I think I enjoy the coaches. I think we
Speaker 2: did well. We did a hunt episode with a bunch
Speaker 2: of the former coaches that are former players, so it's
Speaker 2: almost all of them, almost all of them, and we
Speaker 2: brought up to Doug and he's like, oh, I didn't
Speaker 2: even realize how many of them were almost our former plays.
Speaker 2: But Dashay Townsend, who's cornerbacks defensive backs coach, he's he's great.
Speaker 2: I love him. I love Brenson Buckner and all of them,
Speaker 2: and just kind of like how they talk about it.
Speaker 2: Brentson was really funny because he was talking about when
Speaker 2: he uses video to teach them things. He uses his
Speaker 2: old like he has. I just imagine it's a VHS.
Speaker 2: I imagine it's a VHS tape. I imagine he carries
Speaker 2: a VHS tape around and he plays.
Speaker 3: He's he actually is smart using his tape because he
Speaker 3: he was a really good football player. I mean when
Speaker 3: he was in Carolina and they had that defensive line
Speaker 3: in Carolina.
Speaker 1: They looked really good. Yeah, really good.
Speaker 2: And he says as much. He calls himself out though
Speaker 2: he's like when I'm telling you, he's like, he shows
Speaker 2: them when he messes it up, and then he shows
Speaker 2: them how he fixed it. So I think you kind
Speaker 2: of get that immediate credibility right when you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he actually like did exactly what he's talking about, so
Speaker 2: I can trust him a little bit more so the
Speaker 2: players kind of really, I would imagine really a little
Speaker 2: bit easier.
Speaker 3: Those are fun. That's a good coaching So that's a
Speaker 3: fun coaching staff. Oh no, it's Look, it's a good
Speaker 3: coaching staff. And you know, you asked the question who
Speaker 3: does Kay like talking to, and you brought up the coaches.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's some great coaches and they've got great
Speaker 3: perspective because you know, like you said, a lot of
Speaker 3: them have played the game and now they're coaching. But
Speaker 3: I will say this, this is one of the best
Speaker 3: locker rooms that I've ever covered. I mean, like the
Speaker 3: quality of the guys that Trent Balke and Doug.
Speaker 2: Peterson, there's really no drama that I have seen.
Speaker 3: I mean when you talk to guys, I mean, these
Speaker 3: guys are smart, they're well spoken, they're thoughtful, and they're
Speaker 3: appreciative of the time that they're spending with you. They're
Speaker 3: not trying to just ignore you and your media. I
Speaker 3: don't have time. I mean, it's that's a credit to
Speaker 3: the organization because those are the type of people that
Speaker 3: you have to have to win. You can still have
Speaker 3: a crazy here or there, okay, but you can't have a.
Speaker 1: Whole room full of them. You kind of need a.
Speaker 3: Crazy here there, right, so you don't need it crazy
Speaker 3: sometimes it makes it exciting, it makes it takes a
Speaker 3: little bit of the staleness stuff sometimes out of the
Speaker 3: locker room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't have a whole room full of them,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of players here at least,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe the Wide Receiver Corps as an example,
Speaker 2: that played other places and maybe it wasn't great. I
Speaker 2: know we've had a couple of tops with Evan Ingram,
Speaker 2: and he's just so appreciative of being where he is now.
Speaker 2: When you've played other places and you know you played
Speaker 2: in New York, it's a whole other beast there, So
Speaker 2: you know, Nzy Jones has traveled around and I think
Speaker 2: now that they're in a good situation, they appreciate it
Speaker 2: even more. And when you have that from your veteran players,
Speaker 2: I can't think it trickles down to everyone else too.
Speaker 1: So far, so good in training camp for this team.
Speaker 1: Off day tomorrow, Kai.
Speaker 2: I know what are we going to do with our
Speaker 2: free time?
Speaker 1: I don't know what? Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2: What does one do the beach?
Speaker 1: Get ready for Saturday?
Speaker 2: That's true, Saturday will be good. I don't know if
Speaker 2: tickets are still available, but I'm excited to be in
Speaker 2: the stadium and kind of see them in game like action.
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Speaker 3: Stevens Twitter x handle What is it called now? X?
Speaker 2: I I'm not I'm still Twitter. I still have the
Speaker 2: Twitter bird.
Speaker 1: Yes, they changed they changed mine the other day. I'm
Speaker 1: not going automatically. What is the handle?
Speaker 2: It's my full name. It's Kai Nani So it's k
Speaker 2: A I n A n I Stevens S T E
Speaker 2: V E N S.
Speaker 3: Give her a follow if you haven't already. So can
Speaker 3: somebody buy the name Twitter and start their own Twitter now?
Speaker 3: Or is that still own by X? I mean logs.
Speaker 3: I know you did well in your career. Maybe it
Speaker 3: could be you, you know, I don't know. You have
Speaker 3: to find out about that.
Speaker 2: The new Twitter guy, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Would be I'm big on Twitter. He's a big social
Speaker 1: media of sorts.
Speaker 3: Take on Twitch. Jeff Flagman loves it. Yeah, on it
Speaker 3: all the time. Kai, Great to see you, Thanks for
Speaker 3: having me, Thanks for coming back in this afternoon anytime.
Speaker 3: Ky Stevens, Jaguars reporter with US Jaguars Happy Hour is
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Speaker 1: The injury report coming up in a moment.
Speaker 3: Then at five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show, this is
Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: You gotta see higher ground.
Speaker 6: This is a number one seed. This team needs to
Speaker 6: be playing, getting to buy and playing with the number
Speaker 6: one seed. And I think it's there's possible. The schedule's favorable.
Speaker 6: Kansas City in week two is a bonus for you.
Speaker 6: Buffalo in London's a bonus for you. You normally wouldn't get
Speaker 6: those those are those are games that you have to
Speaker 6: find a way to win. And if you find a
Speaker 6: way to win those games with the way the rest
Speaker 6: of the schedule is, I think you end up with.
Speaker 6: Now there's always this though. They learned how to win
Speaker 6: last year. They learned how to win close games, they
Speaker 6: learned how to win playoff game, and learned how to
Speaker 6: win big games. Some of these teams, like everybody's anointing
Speaker 6: the Jets already, they haven't learned how to do it yet.
Speaker 6: So that's a big advantage for him. But now comes
Speaker 6: the tough part is keeping the edge to do that again.
Speaker 1: And I think it's sustainable because of the quarterback.
Speaker 6: Whenever you have that guy, it's sustainable.
Speaker 3: Pete Frisco, CBS Sports Senior writer, joining us on Jaguars
Speaker 3: dot Com. The full conversation available on the official team
Speaker 3: website and the Official Jaguars podcast network. He was here
Speaker 3: for a couple of days. It's really our annual chance
Speaker 3: to see Pete in person. He doesn't come around during
Speaker 3: the season. Now he knows every now and again he does.
Speaker 1: It's very rare. Yeah, it's not very often, but for
Speaker 1: a couple of big games.
Speaker 3: He'll he'll make sure that he finds his way here
Speaker 3: to Jacksonville because Pete, Okay, lived here back in the day,
Speaker 3: went all the way back to nineteen ninety five. He
Speaker 3: was the beat writer but in Florida Times Union him
Speaker 3: John o'sher also was with the Florida Times Union during
Speaker 3: that era. So I used to have to talk to
Speaker 3: Pete in the locker room.
Speaker 1: How was that? It was good?
Speaker 3: I mean, Pete was great. I got along with Pete
Speaker 3: very well. He was entertaining, he was still is. He
Speaker 3: was never shy, he was never intimidated, and as a player,
Speaker 3: I respected that. I mean, he had a job to
Speaker 3: do and he was not afraid to do it, and
Speaker 3: he was not afraid to ask questions that some other
Speaker 3: ones might beat around the bush. Pete would just come
Speaker 3: out and there it is. Here's the question. And you're like,
Speaker 3: all right, I like that, yeah, No, I mean, here's
Speaker 3: the amazing thing Pete still does.
Speaker 1: Was the early days.
Speaker 3: Jeane Furnett was in has been in the locker room
Speaker 3: since day one, nineteen ninety five. I mean, so there's
Speaker 3: been a couple of guys that have been around a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 1: Jack war was happy.
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Speaker 3: Baptist Helton the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine
Speaker 3: provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars. A couple of players still
Speaker 3: on the active physically unable to perform list. Ben Bartch
Speaker 3: one of those. He's been off kind of behind the
Speaker 3: offense during teamwork, standing near the coaches, kind of simulating
Speaker 3: reps when the offense is on the field. So I
Speaker 3: mean it kind of feels like at some point you
Speaker 3: could see him maybe make.
Speaker 1: A move to get back to practice, I think in
Speaker 1: a week or two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, he had the knee injury last year,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times when you have a guy
Speaker 3: that's that is rehabbing coming back from an injury, like
Speaker 3: a Ben Bartch, or like a Fred's Smoot.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's coming.
Speaker 3: Back from Fred Smoot.
Speaker 1: Was didn't you go to Mississippi State? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sorry about that. So many names in the in the
Speaker 3: brain from back in the day, but smooth. Also, so
Speaker 3: with a guy that tat and achilles or a guy
Speaker 3: that tad and knee, sometimes you have milestones that you
Speaker 3: want to reach. When I say milestones like dates, okay,
Speaker 3: for example, I see it's an injury and say, okay,
Speaker 3: we don't want to get him back before we get
Speaker 3: to the ten month period or an achilles. Let's make
Speaker 3: sure we don't get him back until we get to
Speaker 3: nine or ten months period as well. So they're they're
Speaker 3: kind of holding them back because they want to make
Speaker 3: sure that they continue to do some of the functional
Speaker 3: football drills without the pressure of having other bodies around them.
Speaker 3: And so you could if you watch during practice, Ben
Speaker 3: BArch is not doing the drills, but he's doing a
Speaker 3: lot of football movements throughout practice, and so that's good.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 3: And I think in the next week or two that
Speaker 3: they will probably try to get him back out there,
Speaker 3: and it will be interesting to see how.
Speaker 1: It goes because the reality is.
Speaker 3: That when when BArch got hurt last year, so Shatley
Speaker 3: stepped in and did a fantastic job. Fantastic job, they
Speaker 3: couldn't find anybody else to play better than Shatley for
Speaker 3: the remainder of the year. So this year, will BArch
Speaker 3: earn that starting job back, will Shatley hold on to it?
Speaker 3: And then okay, what happens if Shatley wins it and
Speaker 3: then Cam comes back in week three.
Speaker 1: It would be week five.
Speaker 3: Five, he comes back in five, does one of those
Speaker 3: guys Cam or Walker little move into guard and move
Speaker 3: one of those guys out. I mean, it's just interesting
Speaker 3: to watch. But anyway, back to the injury report, I
Speaker 3: think we'll see those guys when they're ready. Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: earlier this week mentioned Andre Cisco some hamstring tightness day
Speaker 3: to day with him. Roy Robertson Harris had some heat
Speaker 3: exhaustion Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Today, Colub that's it, that's uh. It works.
Speaker 3: When I was brought up with when Kay was in
Speaker 3: here about Steven's point being the hottest summer on record,
Speaker 3: there was a budget, you know, for training camp and
Speaker 3: the Jaguars at that time, and I think John Jones
Speaker 3: I think his name was, and he was kind of
Speaker 3: so you had different people like that worked with the organization.
Speaker 3: Michael Hughes was kind of the general manager, but he
Speaker 3: wasn't the general manager. Like from a personnel standpoint, because
Speaker 3: that was Tom, But then I think it was John
Speaker 3: Jones handled the budget and like the training camp and
Speaker 3: all that kind of thing. Well, in the first couple
Speaker 3: of days or a week, we blew through or the
Speaker 3: team blew through the budget for ice.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: And the way I understand it is that John was like, well,
Speaker 3: we can't spend any more money.
Speaker 1: We've already spent our money on ice and coffins like
Speaker 1: you go find me some ice because of me.
Speaker 3: We were we were literally and they had a certain
Speaker 3: number of like little tanks that were made for getting
Speaker 3: into but there was it was so hot and there
Speaker 3: were so many people that were wanting to get in
Speaker 3: the ice up. They went out to a hardware store
Speaker 3: and they bought rubber made trash cans and literally just
Speaker 3: started putting ice bags in them and we would just
Speaker 3: stand in them just to get some kind of relief
Speaker 3: from three hour full padded practice to a day's in
Speaker 3: record heat in Wisconsin. Anton Harrison right shoulder issue off
Speaker 3: to the side today doing similar work to what Ben
Speaker 3: Bartch is doing football movement things. Saw that today it's
Speaker 3: something to watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look a shoulder with an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: just because I can speak from personal experience with when
Speaker 1: it comes to shoulders, shoulder is one of the most
Speaker 1: complicated joints in the body.
Speaker 3: And it's not like you can hide it as alignment'
Speaker 3: I mean you control you ride the bike every day,
Speaker 3: and when when I say ride the bike, you control
Speaker 3: defensive lineman and block defensive lineman and everything. It all
Speaker 3: comes down to shoulder strength, your your lower body placement
Speaker 3: and balance, and then the ability to transfer that lower
Speaker 3: body power through the upper body to control a defender.
Speaker 3: And that controlling if you have a shoulder end of
Speaker 3: your injury, that's hard to do. So that's I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to sound alarms. I'm just saying that this is
Speaker 3: something that bears watching because you have a first round pick,
Speaker 3: rookie tackle that you're expecting to be your opening day
Speaker 3: start at right tackle because of the suspension of Cam
Speaker 3: Robinson and he's missed a couple of days with the
Speaker 3: shoulder injury. I'm just saying, let's just keep an eye
Speaker 3: on it. Let's s day off tomorrow and see what
Speaker 3: happens if they roll him out there on Saturday in
Speaker 3: the stadium, or wait another day and then you know.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I don't know we'll see, but something worth watching.
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley, we mentioned him sore foot, he said, not
Speaker 3: expected to linger. He changed cleats and got through practice.
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson Show coming up. He won't join us live again.
Speaker 3: Until regular season, so we're giving him a few weeks away.
Speaker 3: We're gonna hear a lot of his sound from his
Speaker 3: press conference yesterday and different topics around the team. Of course,
Speaker 3: we'll also hear a conversation I had this week with
Speaker 3: Travis Etn Junior Jaguars running back Good headspace, good athlete,
Speaker 3: thirty year in the league, speedy, he always wants to
Speaker 3: take the distance, but is improving between the tackles, and
Speaker 3: that's been a focus I think in this offseason is
Speaker 3: how to kind of keep it, keep defenses guessing as
Speaker 3: to where he's going. Yeah, and it's fun watching that
Speaker 3: position group. I mean when we talk about the depth,
Speaker 3: you and I talked a little bit about it last
Speaker 3: week about the depth at the tackle position, and there's
Speaker 3: not many teams in the National Football League that can
Speaker 3: withstand a suspension or an injury to one of their
Speaker 3: starting tackles, where this team has done a great job.
Speaker 3: Credit to the Trent Balky and his staff for getting
Speaker 3: some really good tackles. This running backs room, his running
Speaker 3: backs room is deep too. Now you're talking about having
Speaker 3: etn and and then you got a draft pick who
Speaker 3: I think tank is doing a really good job of
Speaker 3: minimizing the movements to get north and south. And he's
Speaker 3: a big back, so when it gets live, I think
Speaker 3: we're going to see even more specialness from him. You
Speaker 3: got to Michael Hasty last year who was a really
Speaker 3: nice change of pace guy, and Denis Johnson this year
Speaker 3: is added.
Speaker 1: To the mix. This is a really really good group.
Speaker 3: Plenty ahead, The Doug Peterson Show is coming up in
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Speaker 3: Kay Stevens for joining us Jaguars dot Com reporter. Thanks
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