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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August third. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Is brought to you by the Saint John's River Water

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Speaker 3: And now back in the big chair after being woefully

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Speaker 3: ignored at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: J P cheer and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: It is Thursday, Training Camp, rolling along busy.

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Speaker 1: Two hours ahead.

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Speaker 3: Happy Hour for the next hour of course, and then

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Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock on the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: Radio Network. Plenty to get to today on Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 3: Week two of training camp has come to a close.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars are off tomorrow and then it gets physical,

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Speaker 3: it gets hot, it gets real Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up early O line d

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Speaker 1: line one on one drills.

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Speaker 3: We'll get logoman's take on how those have gone the

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Speaker 3: first couple of days, and pads, wide receivers and DB's

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Speaker 3: as well, getting some work in. As we said the

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson Show five o'clock. Well recap some of the

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Speaker 3: comments from head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week. Jeff

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Speaker 3: Loghman Jaguars Analysts joining me now from the Hyundai studios

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Speaker 3: at the Miller Electric Center. Good afternoon, Logs, Good afternoon, JP.

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Speaker 3: You doing good, I'm great man. Two weeks of training

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Speaker 3: campdown well kind of.

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Speaker 1: What eight practices?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say two weeks, but into it

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Speaker 3: eight practices.

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Speaker 1: What two of them in pads, right, Tuesday Wednesday? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 3: Originally I think the plan was was for them to

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Speaker 3: have pads on Monday. That was kind of the expectation

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Speaker 3: that it got moved back to Tuesday, and so you

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Speaker 3: had two padded practices and then today it was back into.

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Speaker 1: What it's called.

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Speaker 3: Some people are calling it pass shoulder pads, but they're

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Speaker 3: not shoulder pads. Are called spider shells, and so when

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Speaker 3: you're in spider shelves, Just so people know, it's there's

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Speaker 3: no live contact, Okay, It's just.

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Speaker 1: All it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a a device that goes on your shoulders that

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Speaker 3: literally is like a webbing of pads. It's not doesn't

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Speaker 3: have any hard plastic to it whatsoever. It's all a

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Speaker 3: soft material and it's just designed so that if two

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Speaker 3: people collide, it gives just a little cushion. You're not

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Speaker 3: doing thud tempo or it's basically the same material that

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Speaker 3: they make knee pads out of. Okay, but it's in

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Speaker 3: a spider web arrangement across the tops of the shoulders.

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Speaker 3: But it is not a contact piece of equipment. So

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Speaker 3: I men, some people get confused by that. Some people

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Speaker 3: call them shoulder pads. They're not shoulder pads, Okay, They're

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Speaker 3: just called spider pads. There's a big difference. No contact, none,

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Speaker 3: no live contact in spider pads. So you'll get more

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Speaker 3: of your your real work in your evaluation. A lot

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Speaker 3: of it will come when they have true shoulder pads.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 3: In the last two days, I think we're we're awesome.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you get to you get to watch, you know,

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Speaker 1: Good when it's in shorts. I mean, you know we

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Speaker 1: used to call the shorts.

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Speaker 3: Well no, I wouldn't go that, come on, lot, But

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Speaker 3: you know you talk about the underwear Olympics in football,

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Speaker 3: you're doing drills and all that kind of stuff, and

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Speaker 3: everybody can look really good in that, well almost everybody. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you and I cannot look good doing that anymore. I

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Speaker 3: can't do it anymore, not at all, okay, but but

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Speaker 3: all football players, for the most part, on a ninety

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Speaker 3: I mean, they look like they all belong. But then

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Speaker 3: part of it. And it's you know, you got a

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Speaker 3: you're you're now starting to enter I don't know if

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Speaker 1: You're going against the same.

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Speaker 3: And then back to the practice field for what could

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Speaker 3: I think it's on the schedule almost two and a

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Speaker 3: half hours on Sunday Sunday, yes, okay, and then Monday

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Speaker 3: of course. So yeah, you're right that the intensity will

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Speaker 3: continue to ramp up. Its Jaguar's happy. How I brought

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Speaker 3: quote unquote distractions. And the smart coaches, and Doug is

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Speaker 3: heighten the intensity because you're performing not just against your teammates,

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Speaker 3: there's more eyes on you JP. I mean that's why

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Speaker 3: intensity can get raised a little bit. And as a

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Speaker 1: Other eyeballs from the other team, you know, and it

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Speaker 3: And he realized that, hey, look, you know, some of

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Speaker 3: evaluation of the offensive line, defensive line one on one work.

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Speaker 3: I know you were all over that yesterday, watched it live,

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that coming up in just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest story of camp though so far,

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Speaker 3: bring to this Jaguars offense. The first week of camp,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the fans were just amazed at

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Speaker 3: there was a lot going on. Let's say, Doug Peterson

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Speaker 3: before practice said he had some toast soreness. Well, then

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Speaker 3: later he comes out he played practiced the entire practice

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Speaker 3: causing some soreness in the bottom of his foot. He

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Speaker 3: at least four drops during team work yesterday, and he

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Speaker 3: was asked after practice today about being rusty. Here's his response.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm never gonna think I'm gonna be rusty. No,

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Speaker 4: if I drop a pass, that's not mean I'm rusty.

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Speaker 1: I just dropped that. I was so wet yesterday I

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Speaker 4: It on my body and a player like me, I'm

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Speaker 4: never gonna think it's rust you know. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 4: not gonna I'm not gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: It's training camp.

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Speaker 4: What the day is at eight pretty sore today, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So, Nah, I'm not rusty. And

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Speaker 4: yesterday I look at that I did so much good,

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Speaker 4: some bad. You know, there's gonna be some good and bad,

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Speaker 4: and I look at it as a win. You know,

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Speaker 4: I gotta get through this, like that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: I know how hard training camp is, and this is

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Speaker 4: So I know that I gotta continue to work to

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Speaker 1: So that's Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 3: Any means that because he hasn't been in one in

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Speaker 1: I think you heard from there.

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Speaker 3: Let me go back because you said that we haven't

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Speaker 3: think Christian Kirk and Jay Jones are two of outstanding

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Speaker 3: put it. Okay, he's got definitely a level of quickness.

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Speaker 3: The way he comes in and out of breaks is

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Speaker 3: a little different. But I mean, look, Christian Kirk comes

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Speaker 3: Jay Jones might be one of the best sell jobs

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Speaker 3: when it comes to routes on movement with the head

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Speaker 1: Is in a national football league.

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Speaker 3: So but he is a different athlete because he combined speed, quickness,

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Speaker 3: we were trying to figure out, I mean, what who

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Speaker 3: would you compare him to to somebody that's played recently

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Speaker 3: thing people think of when you think of Antonio Brown

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Speaker 3: as the negative, but think of the positive that Antonio

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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger about same size, got speed, you know, the

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Speaker 3: catching the balls and everything similar. Now a little different player.

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Speaker 3: But it's fun to watch Calvin really. And there was

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Speaker 3: a moment in yesterday's practice to where things got heated

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Speaker 3: wide receiver corner stuff you're talking about, right, So Calvin

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Speaker 3: there's flags flying, there's it's competition, right, there's all that

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Speaker 3: year in season, and that's Devon Hamilton. Brandon Sheriff is

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Speaker 3: having a hell of a time trying to slow him down.

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Speaker 3: Devon's a big dude, man, big powerful dude, and he

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Speaker 3: just takes Brandon and just it's it's almost roller skates,

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Speaker 3: but but uh, he's a big powerful man. This PR

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Speaker 3: Logoman a Jaguars happy hour. All right, so let's move

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Speaker 3: continue in the middle of that offensive line you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Sheriff at the right guard, Shatley has been getting time

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Speaker 3: at left guard. He was out of practice today for

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Speaker 3: minor medical issues with Mark Long tweeted before practice today.

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Speaker 3: The minor medical issues are always the one that other

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Speaker 3: people have that's right, and not mind when they're happening

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Speaker 3: to you. It's funny how that works. Center Luke Fordner

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Speaker 3: year two for him, you know, the weight room in

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Speaker 3: the off season was really the big key for him.

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Speaker 1: Right. I haven't had a chance to chat with him.

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Speaker 1: I talked with him yesterday. What's he feel like?

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Speaker 3: Well, my first question is is you know, how what's

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Speaker 3: your weight at? Because you know, I mean he looks better,

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Speaker 3: looks maybe just a little bit bigger. And he said,

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Speaker 3: you know, last year he was three o eight. This

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Speaker 3: year he's the same weight, three eight. But he said,

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Speaker 3: obviously he goes he felt better that it's in a

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Speaker 3: better place. You know, there are three hundred and eight

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Speaker 3: pounds that are distributed where you want it more.

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Speaker 2: And uh.

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Speaker 3: He trained back in Kentucky and he said one of

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Speaker 3: the things that he really worked hard on besides the

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Speaker 3: typical you know, let's get big and strong, you know, weightlifting,

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Speaker 3: those type of things. He said he did a lot

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Speaker 3: of functional weight training where you're doing lunges with weight

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Speaker 3: and things that where you're you're doing power movements, which

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Speaker 3: would simulate more football athletic athletic activity, not just standing

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Speaker 3: there and lifting weight up in but you got in

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Speaker 3: a football field and you get a three point stance. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's not very often you're squat in a defensive lineman. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: you're you're extending and uh, I mean all those things

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Speaker 3: are you're you're trying to simulate and through different movements.

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Speaker 3: And Luke said that that was a big part of

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Speaker 3: his off season training was the functional st strength training.

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Speaker 3: He said, he feels really strong. And he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: last year, he said a lot of times there was

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Speaker 3: certain things that he would do that he goes that

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Speaker 3: I just didn't feel like I could hold it, and

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Speaker 3: he goes, this year, I feel like I can hold it.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm kudos to him because he does

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Speaker 3: look he looks thinner in the face and more broad

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Speaker 3: and more defined, and so kudos him because you know,

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Speaker 3: when you're a young man and you come into this

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Speaker 3: league and you're sometimes twenty one years old, you're all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden getting around some guys that are almost

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Speaker 3: thirty okay, and they've been professional professionally training for years

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Speaker 3: and it's become their job to work out and become

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Speaker 3: a professional football player. So where's a guy like Fortner

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Speaker 3: and a young player. You're still growing into your body,

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Speaker 3: You're still becoming a man so to speak. I mean

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Speaker 3: a lot of times you see like the world class

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Speaker 3: powerlifters that are in this world or in their late twenties,

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Speaker 3: you know, because the body is still maturing and getting

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Speaker 3: stronger as you're in your twenties. There's a grown man's

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Speaker 3: strength is a real thing. Yeah, yeah, it is. And

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Speaker 3: so you'll see a lot of guys from the rookie

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Speaker 3: year into about year four to where they make tremendous progress.

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Speaker 3: And then sometimes when you get about year four, then

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Speaker 3: you start to have injuries that slow some of that

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Speaker 3: stuff down and you're just trying to maintain or make

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Speaker 3: smaller incremental advancements. All right, plenty more coming up Saturday, Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Monday with everything in the trenches one on ones. We'll

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Speaker 3: get some more of your analysis coming up next week

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Speaker 3: newest team member on Jaguars Broadcasting, Kai Stevens with her

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Speaker 3: thoughts on campus Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 5: I just want to sew your normal A great football

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Speaker 5: player you know. That's that's it. I want crew to myself.

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Speaker 5: You know that I could be the best one in

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Speaker 5: the NFL. So that's the mindset. You gotta have a

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Speaker 5: DV and I just want to win. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: do whatever it takes to win. And that's the mindset.

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Speaker 3: Like be relentless, relentless Tyson Campbell and welcome back. It's

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Speaker 1: Shadrick, Jeff Vlogaman.

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Speaker 3: We're on tenon Xcel AM ninety two point five FM,

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Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars Social Media as well. Kai Stevens

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Speaker 3: joining us now from Jaguars Am, Jaguars Reporter, Jaguars dot Com,

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Speaker 3: all the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Things on the PM show today as well.

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Speaker 1: So welcome back, Thank you, Welcome back. Stuck around all

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Speaker 1: day you had the jags Am today.

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Speaker 2: Right, I did. I'm I'm trying to become a morning

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Speaker 2: person for the Jagsam purposes, but I am more of

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Speaker 2: a night all in general, so I do appreciate an

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Speaker 2: evening show.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming back. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: So all right, by the way, did you guys notice

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Speaker 3: the pork chop sideburns?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyson Campbell.

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Speaker 2: He's getting it. It's a look is it a training

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Speaker 2: camp book only?

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Speaker 1: I know I'm digging that. Yeah, it's pretty good. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's like nineteen seventies, you know. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: digging it.

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Speaker 3: And when I saw Tyson when he was on his

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Speaker 3: way to the podium, that was yesterday, right, yep, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: days run together. Okay, So I'm on the way of

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Speaker 3: the podium yesterday and I'm like, sweet, sweet, I'm liking

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Speaker 3: that nice Tyson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's we were talking about it earlier logs.

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Speaker 3: The competition that they had so cool yesterday with Calvin

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Speaker 3: Ridley and that whole thing really kind of stands out

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Speaker 3: as one of the highlights of the first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think you.

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Speaker 2: Can just see how intensely both of them are being. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Calvin's excited to be back on the field, but Tyson's

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Speaker 2: just like, I think he got beat on the first

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Speaker 2: one one on one, but Calvin dropped it. But Tyson's

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Speaker 2: so mad himself, and he like immediately went over. I

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Speaker 2: think he was talking to Shay and like kind of

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Speaker 2: figure out what they were going to do, and it's

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Speaker 2: just so cool to see it every Like, obviously you

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Speaker 2: want to go as hard as count in every rep,

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Speaker 2: but to actually feel like they want to beat each

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Speaker 2: other and you have to imagine that's going to make

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Speaker 2: them better when it comes to the season when they're

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Speaker 2: both going against each other in practice.

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Speaker 3: Want it gets it gets highlighted because it's right in

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Speaker 3: front of everybody. Okay, all the media is right there.

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Speaker 3: It's right there to where it's from literally center stage. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and so that makes the competition even better. And you

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Speaker 3: bring up to Shay, which is the defensive back to

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Speaker 3: cornerbacks coach, to say to Shae Townsend, I mean you

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Speaker 3: talk about even competitive him. I mean he's barking at

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Speaker 3: the officials that are there to try to help the

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Speaker 3: football team get better on the field.

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Speaker 1: He's barking at him because he said, now, you can't

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Speaker 1: throw a flag on my guy. You got to let

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Speaker 1: them have the right to space too.

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Speaker 3: When your guy is holding two fistfuls of jersey, guess

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Speaker 3: what the flag is gonna come out. I was just

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Speaker 3: sitting there going, you know to Shae spoken like a

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Speaker 3: true former cornerback in the National Football League. What are

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Speaker 3: you doing own that flag? That's not a flag? It's

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Speaker 3: so funny. Kai Stevens is with us. So you know,

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Speaker 3: this is this is when it gets real. Starting on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: It feels like three straight padded practices in the stadium

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Speaker 3: for one of them, big crowd expected, then back out here.

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Speaker 3: It's not quite I think I wrote today in the

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Speaker 3: campservations on Jaguars dot Com it's not quite Junction, Texas

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Speaker 3: circa nineteen fifty four. But it's as close as these

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Speaker 3: Jaguars will get.

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Speaker 1: Guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as training camp is now the way they do it,

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Speaker 2: and they don't do two days anymore, Jeff, which I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you can tell us all about.

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Speaker 1: I'm jealous.

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Speaker 2: But they so that what they do now is they

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Speaker 2: kind of, you know, go back and forth a little bit.

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Speaker 2: They started pads on Tuesday, right, and I think Doug

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Speaker 2: was talking a little bit this the other day about

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Speaker 2: just this little stretch. I think over the weekend it'll

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Speaker 2: be those like kind of really longer padded, like really

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Speaker 2: physical practices, which you need to have at some point, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is football. It's a physical game. So

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Speaker 2: as much as you want to protect your players and

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Speaker 2: you know, lengthen either their career or you know, allow

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Speaker 2: them to be their best when the season comes around

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Speaker 2: and you still have to figure out, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: playing football a little bit. So I think in this

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Speaker 2: little stretch we'll see a lot of what the team

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Speaker 2: is going to become, I guess in terms of what

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Speaker 2: their physicality will be, what their identity is going to be.

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Speaker 3: Because Guy's right, I mean it still football, okay. You

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Speaker 3: still have to establish tough toughness and discipline and the

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Speaker 3: physical toughness and the mental toughness. You have to be

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Speaker 3: able to battle through the heat. And this three day

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Speaker 3: stretch it will be the grind of training camp, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it's the grind of the modern day training camp.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the advance, the advancements and the

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Speaker 3: changes that they now have with training camps, it's just

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Speaker 3: so smart. They've got the protective shows what I call

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Speaker 3: the Kazoo helmets on top of the helmets that helps

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Speaker 3: protect the players from collisions and prevent concussions. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's smart. The way that they have one practice a

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Speaker 3: day and then all walk through the second one, I

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Speaker 3: mean that's smart. I mean where were all these things

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Speaker 3: twenty some odd years ago. I mean, I mean there

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Speaker 3: was a lot of guys in the Union years ago

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Speaker 3: that were begging to have smart, sensible approaches to training

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Speaker 3: camp like there is today. But the old school football

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Speaker 3: guys just weren't willing to let go of that style

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Speaker 3: of coaching.

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Speaker 1: Time change.

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Speaker 2: It's a good thing to see. I mean, they got

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Speaker 2: the cooling stations too. I was saying when we were

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Speaker 2: off air, it must be such a difference when you

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Speaker 2: started in New York and then you come down here

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Speaker 2: and have training camp. It's just walking outside, it's like difficult.

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Speaker 2: So I have no idea how they practice currently and

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Speaker 2: how you did two days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I came down here, the first thing you

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Speaker 3: get used to it, I mean you acclimate to your environment.

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Speaker 3: And so the very first year of this franchise, which

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Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety five, we actually all got on planes

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Speaker 3: and went to Stevens Point, Wisconsin to beat the heat.

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Speaker 3: Well we go to Stevens Point in Wisconsin, and what happens, Well,

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Speaker 3: it's the hottest summer on record for Steven's.

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Speaker 1: Point, wisc. Constant. Look at the front page of the

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Speaker 1: newspapers up there.

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Speaker 3: Cows dying in fields. Now we're sitting there going what

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Speaker 3: about us? How about us? No, but it was it

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Speaker 3: was incredibly demanding. Then the years subsequent years that we

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Speaker 3: had of all the training camps were here and you

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Speaker 3: get used to it. But I mean there were guys

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Speaker 3: that were losing, you know, because we were having full

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Speaker 3: padded practices twice a day that and they were lasting

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Speaker 3: three hours, and so your your amount of time recovery

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Speaker 3: time was very limited. So some guys would lose ten,

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Speaker 3: lose ten, twelve, fourteen pounds in a practice and would

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Speaker 3: never get that weight back for the second practice. And

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Speaker 3: then now you're back farther than you were after the

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Speaker 3: first practice. Now you're just trying to keep your head

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Speaker 3: above water to get the weight back on and get

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Speaker 3: hydrated the for the practice the next day. And that

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Speaker 3: was a challenge, but you found a way to get

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Speaker 3: j Ap Shadwick, Jeff Loghman, Ky Stevens. What's your favorite

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Speaker 3: conversation with the Jags player or coach so far this camp?

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Speaker 2: Guy, I think I enjoy the coaches. I think we

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Speaker 2: did well. We did a hunt episode with a bunch

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Speaker 2: of the former coaches that are former players, so it's

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Speaker 2: almost all of them, almost all of them, and we

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Speaker 2: brought up to Doug and he's like, oh, I didn't

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Speaker 2: even realize how many of them were almost our former plays.

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Speaker 2: But Dashay Townsend, who's cornerbacks defensive backs coach, he's he's great.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I love Brenson Buckner and all of them,

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Speaker 2: and just kind of like how they talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Brentson was really funny because he was talking about when

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Speaker 2: he uses video to teach them things. He uses his

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Speaker 2: old like he has. I just imagine it's a VHS.

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Speaker 2: I imagine it's a VHS tape. I imagine he carries

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Speaker 2: a VHS tape around and he plays.

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Speaker 3: He's he actually is smart using his tape because he

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Speaker 3: he was a really good football player. I mean when

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Speaker 3: he was in Carolina and they had that defensive line

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Speaker 3: in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: They looked really good. Yeah, really good.

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Speaker 2: And he says as much. He calls himself out though

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Speaker 2: he's like when I'm telling you, he's like, he shows

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Speaker 2: them when he messes it up, and then he shows

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Speaker 2: them how he fixed it. So I think you kind

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Speaker 2: of get that immediate credibility right when you're like, Okay,

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00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: he actually like did exactly what he's talking about, so

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Speaker 2: I can trust him a little bit more so the

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Speaker 2: players kind of really, I would imagine really a little

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Speaker 2: bit easier.

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Speaker 3: Those are fun. That's a good coaching So that's a

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Speaker 3: fun coaching staff. Oh no, it's Look, it's a good

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Speaker 3: coaching staff. And you know, you asked the question who

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Speaker 3: does Kay like talking to, and you brought up the coaches.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some great coaches and they've got great

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Speaker 3: perspective because you know, like you said, a lot of

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Speaker 3: them have played the game and now they're coaching. But

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Speaker 3: I will say this, this is one of the best

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Speaker 3: locker rooms that I've ever covered. I mean, like the

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Speaker 3: quality of the guys that Trent Balke and Doug.

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Speaker 2: Peterson, there's really no drama that I have seen.

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Speaker 3: I mean when you talk to guys, I mean, these

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Speaker 3: guys are smart, they're well spoken, they're thoughtful, and they're

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Speaker 3: appreciative of the time that they're spending with you. They're

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Speaker 3: not trying to just ignore you and your media. I

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Speaker 3: don't have time. I mean, it's that's a credit to

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Speaker 3: the organization because those are the type of people that

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Speaker 3: you have to have to win. You can still have

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Speaker 3: a crazy here or there, okay, but you can't have a.

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Speaker 1: Whole room full of them. You kind of need a.

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Speaker 3: Crazy here there, right, so you don't need it crazy

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Speaker 3: sometimes it makes it exciting, it makes it takes a

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Speaker 3: little bit of the staleness stuff sometimes out of the

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Speaker 3: locker room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't have a whole room full of them,

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Speaker 1: that's true.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of players here at least,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe the Wide Receiver Corps as an example,

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Speaker 2: that played other places and maybe it wasn't great. I

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Speaker 2: know we've had a couple of tops with Evan Ingram,

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Speaker 2: and he's just so appreciative of being where he is now.

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Speaker 2: When you've played other places and you know you played

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Speaker 2: in New York, it's a whole other beast there, So

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Speaker 2: you know, Nzy Jones has traveled around and I think

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Speaker 2: now that they're in a good situation, they appreciate it

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Speaker 2: even more. And when you have that from your veteran players,

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Speaker 2: I can't think it trickles down to everyone else too.

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Speaker 1: So far, so good in training camp for this team.

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Speaker 1: Off day tomorrow, Kai.

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Speaker 2: I know what are we going to do with our

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Speaker 2: free time?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what? Yeah, how about that?

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Speaker 2: What does one do the beach?

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Speaker 1: Get ready for Saturday?

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Speaker 2: That's true, Saturday will be good. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: tickets are still available, but I'm excited to be in

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Speaker 2: the stadium and kind of see them in game like action.

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Speaker 3: Crowded Jaguars dot com Slash Training Camp for all the

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Speaker 3: latest info for the stadium practice and all the practices

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Speaker 3: open that remain at the middle of Electric Center. Kai

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Speaker 3: Stevens Twitter x handle What is it called now? X?

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Speaker 2: I I'm not I'm still Twitter. I still have the

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Speaker 2: Twitter bird.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they changed they changed mine the other day. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going automatically. What is the handle?

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Speaker 2: It's my full name. It's Kai Nani So it's k

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Speaker 2: A I n A n I Stevens S T E

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Speaker 2: V E N S.

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Speaker 3: Give her a follow if you haven't already. So can

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Speaker 3: somebody buy the name Twitter and start their own Twitter now?

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Speaker 3: Or is that still own by X? I mean logs.

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Speaker 3: I know you did well in your career. Maybe it

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Speaker 3: could be you, you know, I don't know. You have

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Speaker 3: to find out about that.

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Speaker 2: The new Twitter guy, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 1: Would be I'm big on Twitter. He's a big social

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Speaker 1: media of sorts.

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Speaker 3: Take on Twitch. Jeff Flagman loves it. Yeah, on it

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Speaker 3: all the time. Kai, Great to see you, Thanks for

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Speaker 3: having me, Thanks for coming back in this afternoon anytime.

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Speaker 3: Ky Stevens, Jaguars reporter with US Jaguars Happy Hour is

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Speaker 3: Roger by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's

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Speaker 3: water It's worth saving.

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Speaker 1: The injury report coming up in a moment.

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Speaker 3: Then at five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show, this is

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: You gotta see higher ground.

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Speaker 6: This is a number one seed. This team needs to

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Speaker 6: be playing, getting to buy and playing with the number

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Speaker 6: one seed. And I think it's there's possible. The schedule's favorable.

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Speaker 6: Kansas City in week two is a bonus for you.

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Speaker 6: Buffalo in London's a bonus for you. You normally wouldn't get

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Speaker 6: those those are those are games that you have to

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Speaker 6: find a way to win. And if you find a

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Speaker 6: way to win those games with the way the rest

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Speaker 6: of the schedule is, I think you end up with.

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Speaker 6: Now there's always this though. They learned how to win

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Speaker 6: last year. They learned how to win close games, they

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Speaker 6: learned how to win playoff game, and learned how to

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Speaker 6: win big games. Some of these teams, like everybody's anointing

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Speaker 6: the Jets already, they haven't learned how to do it yet.

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Speaker 6: So that's a big advantage for him. But now comes

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Speaker 6: the tough part is keeping the edge to do that again.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's sustainable because of the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Whenever you have that guy, it's sustainable.

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Speaker 3: Pete Frisco, CBS Sports Senior writer, joining us on Jaguars

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Speaker 3: dot Com. The full conversation available on the official team

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Speaker 3: website and the Official Jaguars podcast network. He was here

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Speaker 3: for a couple of days. It's really our annual chance

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Speaker 3: to see Pete in person. He doesn't come around during

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Speaker 3: the season. Now he knows every now and again he does.

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Speaker 1: It's very rare. Yeah, it's not very often, but for

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Speaker 1: a couple of big games.

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Speaker 3: He'll he'll make sure that he finds his way here

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Speaker 3: to Jacksonville because Pete, Okay, lived here back in the day,

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Speaker 3: went all the way back to nineteen ninety five. He

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Speaker 3: was the beat writer but in Florida Times Union him

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Speaker 3: John o'sher also was with the Florida Times Union during

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Speaker 3: that era. So I used to have to talk to

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Speaker 3: Pete in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: How was that? It was good?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Pete was great. I got along with Pete

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Speaker 3: very well. He was entertaining, he was still is. He

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Speaker 3: was never shy, he was never intimidated, and as a player,

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Speaker 3: I respected that. I mean, he had a job to

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Speaker 3: do and he was not afraid to do it, and

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Speaker 3: he was not afraid to ask questions that some other

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Speaker 3: ones might beat around the bush. Pete would just come

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Speaker 3: out and there it is. Here's the question. And you're like,

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Speaker 3: all right, I like that, yeah, No, I mean, here's

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Speaker 3: the amazing thing Pete still does.

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Speaker 1: Was the early days.

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Speaker 3: Jeane Furnett was in has been in the locker room

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Speaker 3: since day one, nineteen ninety five. I mean, so there's

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Speaker 3: been a couple of guys that have been around a

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Speaker 3: long time.

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Speaker 1: Jack war was happy.

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Speaker 3: I was brought to you by the Saint John's River

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Speaker 3: Water Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving. Round ninety

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Speaker 3: two point five FM, tinten XL, Jaguars dot Com, Jacks

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Speaker 3: Social Media. Time Now for the injury report, presented by

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Speaker 3: Baptist Helton the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine

834
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Speaker 3: provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars. A couple of players still

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Speaker 3: on the active physically unable to perform list. Ben Bartch

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Speaker 3: one of those. He's been off kind of behind the

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Speaker 3: offense during teamwork, standing near the coaches, kind of simulating

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Speaker 3: reps when the offense is on the field. So I

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Speaker 3: mean it kind of feels like at some point you

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Speaker 3: could see him maybe make.

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Speaker 1: A move to get back to practice, I think in

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Speaker 1: a week or two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, he had the knee injury last year,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of times when you have a guy

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Speaker 3: that's that is rehabbing coming back from an injury, like

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Speaker 3: a Ben Bartch, or like a Fred's Smoot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's coming.

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Speaker 3: Back from Fred Smoot.

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Speaker 1: Was didn't you go to Mississippi State? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that. So many names in the in the

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Speaker 3: brain from back in the day, but smooth. Also, so

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Speaker 3: with a guy that tat and achilles or a guy

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Speaker 3: that tad and knee, sometimes you have milestones that you

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Speaker 3: want to reach. When I say milestones like dates, okay,

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Speaker 3: for example, I see it's an injury and say, okay,

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Speaker 3: we don't want to get him back before we get

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Speaker 3: to the ten month period or an achilles. Let's make

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Speaker 3: sure we don't get him back until we get to

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Speaker 3: nine or ten months period as well. So they're they're

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Speaker 3: kind of holding them back because they want to make

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Speaker 3: sure that they continue to do some of the functional

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Speaker 3: football drills without the pressure of having other bodies around them.

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Speaker 3: And so you could if you watch during practice, Ben

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Speaker 3: BArch is not doing the drills, but he's doing a

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Speaker 3: lot of football movements throughout practice, and so that's good.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 3: And I think in the next week or two that

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Speaker 3: they will probably try to get him back out there,

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Speaker 3: and it will be interesting to see how.

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Speaker 1: It goes because the reality is.

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Speaker 3: That when when BArch got hurt last year, so Shatley

872
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: stepped in and did a fantastic job. Fantastic job, they

873
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: couldn't find anybody else to play better than Shatley for

874
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Speaker 3: the remainder of the year. So this year, will BArch

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Speaker 3: earn that starting job back, will Shatley hold on to it?

876
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Speaker 3: And then okay, what happens if Shatley wins it and

877
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Speaker 3: then Cam comes back in week three.

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Speaker 1: It would be week five.

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Speaker 3: Five, he comes back in five, does one of those

880
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: guys Cam or Walker little move into guard and move

881
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: one of those guys out. I mean, it's just interesting

882
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: to watch. But anyway, back to the injury report, I

883
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Speaker 3: think we'll see those guys when they're ready. Doug Peterson

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Speaker 3: earlier this week mentioned Andre Cisco some hamstring tightness day

885
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: to day with him. Roy Robertson Harris had some heat

886
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: exhaustion Tuesday.

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00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: Today, Colub that's it, that's uh. It works.

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Speaker 3: When I was brought up with when Kay was in

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Speaker 3: here about Steven's point being the hottest summer on record,

890
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: there was a budget, you know, for training camp and

891
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: the Jaguars at that time, and I think John Jones

892
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: I think his name was, and he was kind of

893
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: so you had different people like that worked with the organization.

894
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: Michael Hughes was kind of the general manager, but he

895
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: wasn't the general manager. Like from a personnel standpoint, because

896
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: that was Tom, But then I think it was John

897
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Speaker 3: Jones handled the budget and like the training camp and

898
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: all that kind of thing. Well, in the first couple

899
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Speaker 3: of days or a week, we blew through or the

900
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: team blew through the budget for ice.

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00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: Right.

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00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: And the way I understand it is that John was like, well,

903
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Speaker 3: we can't spend any more money.

904
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Speaker 1: We've already spent our money on ice and coffins like

905
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: you go find me some ice because of me.

906
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 3: We were we were literally and they had a certain

907
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: number of like little tanks that were made for getting

908
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: into but there was it was so hot and there

909
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: were so many people that were wanting to get in

910
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: the ice up. They went out to a hardware store

911
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: and they bought rubber made trash cans and literally just

912
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: started putting ice bags in them and we would just

913
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Speaker 3: stand in them just to get some kind of relief

914
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Speaker 3: from three hour full padded practice to a day's in

915
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: record heat in Wisconsin. Anton Harrison right shoulder issue off

916
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: to the side today doing similar work to what Ben

917
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: Bartch is doing football movement things. Saw that today it's

918
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Speaker 3: something to watch.

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00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look a shoulder with an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: just because I can speak from personal experience with when

921
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: it comes to shoulders, shoulder is one of the most

922
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Speaker 1: complicated joints in the body.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like you can hide it as alignment'

924
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Speaker 3: I mean you control you ride the bike every day,

925
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Speaker 3: and when when I say ride the bike, you control

926
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Speaker 3: defensive lineman and block defensive lineman and everything. It all

927
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Speaker 3: comes down to shoulder strength, your your lower body placement

928
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: and balance, and then the ability to transfer that lower

929
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Speaker 3: body power through the upper body to control a defender.

930
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Speaker 3: And that controlling if you have a shoulder end of

931
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Speaker 3: your injury, that's hard to do. So that's I'm not

932
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Speaker 3: trying to sound alarms. I'm just saying that this is

933
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Speaker 3: something that bears watching because you have a first round pick,

934
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Speaker 3: rookie tackle that you're expecting to be your opening day

935
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Speaker 3: start at right tackle because of the suspension of Cam

936
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Speaker 3: Robinson and he's missed a couple of days with the

937
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Speaker 3: shoulder injury. I'm just saying, let's just keep an eye

938
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Speaker 3: on it. Let's s day off tomorrow and see what

939
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Speaker 3: happens if they roll him out there on Saturday in

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Speaker 3: the stadium, or wait another day and then you know.

941
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Speaker 1: We'll see. I don't know we'll see, but something worth watching.

942
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Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley, we mentioned him sore foot, he said, not

943
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: expected to linger. He changed cleats and got through practice.

944
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Speaker 3: Tyler Shatley out today. Doug Peterson Show is coming up

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson Show coming up. He won't join us live again.

957
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Speaker 3: Until regular season, so we're giving him a few weeks away.

958
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna hear a lot of his sound from his

959
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: press conference yesterday and different topics around the team. Of course,

960
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Speaker 3: we'll also hear a conversation I had this week with

961
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Speaker 3: Travis Etn Junior Jaguars running back Good headspace, good athlete,

962
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: thirty year in the league, speedy, he always wants to

963
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: take the distance, but is improving between the tackles, and

964
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Speaker 3: that's been a focus I think in this offseason is

965
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Speaker 3: how to kind of keep it, keep defenses guessing as

966
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Speaker 3: to where he's going. Yeah, and it's fun watching that

967
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Speaker 3: position group. I mean when we talk about the depth,

968
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: you and I talked a little bit about it last

969
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: week about the depth at the tackle position, and there's

970
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: not many teams in the National Football League that can

971
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Speaker 3: withstand a suspension or an injury to one of their

972
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Speaker 3: starting tackles, where this team has done a great job.

973
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Speaker 3: Credit to the Trent Balky and his staff for getting

974
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Speaker 3: some really good tackles. This running backs room, his running

975
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: backs room is deep too. Now you're talking about having

976
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Speaker 3: etn and and then you got a draft pick who

977
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Speaker 3: I think tank is doing a really good job of

978
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Speaker 3: minimizing the movements to get north and south. And he's

979
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Speaker 3: a big back, so when it gets live, I think

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00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: we're going to see even more specialness from him. You

981
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: got to Michael Hasty last year who was a really

982
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: nice change of pace guy, and Denis Johnson this year

983
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Speaker 3: is added.

984
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Speaker 1: To the mix. This is a really really good group.

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Speaker 3: Plenty ahead, The Doug Peterson Show is coming up in

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Speaker 3: just a moment on the Jaguars Radio networker Thanks to

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Speaker 3: Kay Stevens for joining us Jaguars dot Com reporter. Thanks

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Speaker 3: to our entire crew for Jeff Logoman, I'm JP Shadwick.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Radio

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Speaker 3: Network coverage coming up to Doug Peterson Show in just

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Speaker 3: a moment.