WEBVTT - "BAS" 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:07.200 Hold on, hold up Alert. I'd rather kick you with 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.640 Rory Su. Every the hardest to keep in the boat, 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:11.360 So why would you wait every day? Still it's too 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.239 because I know for faces they'renn saym we' so I 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:15.280 bad my call on the station ain't knowing, not anxious. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.240 I'm waiting on them to go list if it ain't them, 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:18.880 and I'll right in the sidace. I promise that no 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.919 one can do what they do. It's like hundreds of 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.680 station that's Aaron, But I'd rather listen to Rari Su 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:35.000 Su sup Buran, sup sup Boran, So su su Buran 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:40.559 super h so Ocome to a little ball or Alert 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:46.440 Show starring Ferry Simmons and Sue Solo, Ball Alert, Ball Alert, 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.800 Ball All. Welcome to the Ball Alert Show podcast available 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.000 everywhere you get your podcasts. I go by the name 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.360 Ferrari Simmons, Hey, best friends, is your girls, Su Solo 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.720 And like my dog Barber said, welcome back to Ball 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.440 Show podcasts. A little minut it. We missed you all, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.520 but we're gonna catch all up on the teeth. We're 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.120 gonna get into in case you missed it, Baller mail 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.200 and we got a dope ass interview, but we'll tell 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:12.720 you all about that. How was your weekend? I know 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.000 it was pretty good, I I know, but are you 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.160 gonna care to share? For baller Nation faller Nation? Um, 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:25.760 I had a good weekend. I have a I have 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.039 a crush on somebody and we're having a good time 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.520 getting to know each other. And that's that. But for 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.840 our sentments, how was your honeymoon? My honeymoon was amazing, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.400 except for day two. Day two, I got bit on 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.160 my forehead by something, and uh it swoll up really big, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.680 almost like when Will Smith had that allergy reaction and 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.920 that movie. I forget what it was. And I got 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:51.200 bit in my left fingers. Yeah, well I was clumped up, 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.400 so I had to go. My wife took good care 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.840 of me. We had some ointment from the er room 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.920 that we wouldn't saying we should super dope, and I 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.720 was super happy to spend some good quiet time with her. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.880 Got a little spicy with her, and yeah I am back, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.799 and I see. Did y'all try anything now for the honeyball? 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.799 You know, I'm always trying to try something new. That's 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.079 just what we need. Three finger snaps for y'all. Let's 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:21.639 get into the case you miss it with your shout. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.880 He I hadn't got his crazy tail self arrested in 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.040 Amsterdam on the third Okay, he said he was taken 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.440 into custody for using his phone while cruising through the 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.320 town and did not stop while crossing the streets and 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.959 his handlebar broke off a cop side in here, child 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.079 and anybody you could have hit. He hit a cop 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.919 in Amsterdam. Okay. He hit Instagram Lives to explain a 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.520 bit of what happened. Take a listen. So I'm locked 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:48.200 up now, I'm obviously not supposed to have my phone 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.280 as I'm biking, and and because the policeman ran into 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.440 me and broke his uh what is it his reviews, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.000 you know? And because they don't didn't have my passport 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.880 on I don't know the rest, and didn't even put 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.560 me in handcuffs. We just opened the door and invited 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.600 me to the bank seat. See. I need the officers 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.440 in America to take a little less and okay, don't 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.600 use handcuffs into the back of the squad car, and 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.880 maybe we will just oblige as easily as he I did. Okay, 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.520 now living lesson, I see has a five year old 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.520 with his wife, the infamous Coco Austin. So the couple 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.720 has been all over the blogs the past two days. 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.880 I know y'all have seen it because Coco says that 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.800 she's still breastfeed there five year old and something I 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.480 don't like that now. Most people feel like the breastfeeding 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.200 stops when the baby can walk, regardless of how much 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.800 nutrition breast milk may actually be giving the child. But 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:48.200 what Coco said was, my child eats steaks and hamburgers. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.960 She just likes a little snack every now and then. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.080 It's and it's more about the bonding for her than 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.680 it is about giving her breast book for nutrition. I'm 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.360 not really sure if that's helping people persuade their perception 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.880 or not. But my question is, well hurt. What she 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.480 said was Coco is saying that it's less about the description, 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.760 more about comfort her daughter wants it. So best friends, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.160 my question to you is do you think people are 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.440 over sexualizing the fact that I see and Coco's five 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.080 year old child still gets breast fed. You'll be right 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.279 back with more of the Baller Alert Show. You're listening 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.720 to a special edition of the Baller Alert Shows. I'm 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.200 kicking in with Ferramri Simmons and Sue Solo on the 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.360 Ball Alert Show podcast. Man, the I don't even know 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.160 how to do the proper introduction this guy. You know 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.600 what I will say, I don't think that you get 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.040 the flowers that you deserve. Definitely been doing a lot 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.440 of things behind the scenes. I heard you've been ghost 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:48.000 riding for some famous people. What's going on? Man? Thanks 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.239 for having me, and you know, thank you for the flowers. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.200 And you definitely deler total means totally in your business. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.400 I hope that's okay. Now let's talk about it. But 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.680 everybody listening, just so y'all know we are talking to 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.599 dream dream bills. First need is that correct? Yeah? Yeah, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.840 that is corrects. The name is Boss. Don't forget it, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.080 don't mispronounce it. It's boxed there you go kill that. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.240 What's the full name? Because I need to give people 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.920 some context of where Boss comes from. The Boss is 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.000 my first name, my birth name. Um. It means lying 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.840 in Arabic. My family is from Sudan, Um, you know, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.720 so that's like Northeast Africa for those that don't know. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.360 And and Arabic is the primary language there, so you know, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.600 that's like we grew up speaking Africa in the house 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.159 and that's where my mother named me. See now, I'm 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.560 not gonna let that go without saying that before my 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.599 family came to America, they were into them. My family 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.240 had a business out there. They made a life for themselves. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.080 So I'm here to see Africans really break out of 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.600 our tradition, which is what I told you on a 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.920 sidebar conversation, because we are very creative. We come from 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.520 the Motherland where where black greatness comes from. So shout 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.640 out to you, especially being signed to Dreamville. How did 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:03.719 that happen? Yeah? Yeah, So I was raised in Queens 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.320 from when I was about seven eight years old and 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.120 Cole ended up coming to St. John's University for his 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.520 undergrads and my brother Eve was attending St. John's at 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.400 the time, and I was like a towny I had uh, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.760 I had pretty much just dropped out of Hampton University. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.039 Shout out to all the h b c us out there. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.960 Um was. It was definitely a very enlightening experience. But 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.280 I got back home and you know, I started hanging 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.919 out with my brother again, running around whooping with claim 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:36.680 like at the local basketball court. You can whoo I'm alright, 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.680 I'm a I'm a great role player. I won't even 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.000 gash like I've set a good screen. I rebound, I 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.440 hit the open jumper, you know what I mean. But 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.520 you know, everybody loves playing with me. Like as asked 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.840 Cole about my screens, I said, the best screens in 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.880 the game. I say that much. Well that's probably that's 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.840 probably how we got tight, honestly on the basketball court. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.680 And then just like that, have you j Cole played 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.120 on one on one because we know that he went 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.240 and played back home for a couple of minutes. Well 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.640 he see, he's he's he's going all the way with it. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.880 I mean, Cole is like training, he's I think back 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.520 in those days, we're all just casual, you know, casually hoping. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.600 I think now he's just he's just far faring above 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.320 ahead everybody. I mean guys doing dribble drills and linking 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.800 up with NBA trainers. I got nothing. I got nothing 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:29.600 for him. Now that's over all right, So wait, go back, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.800 he was you saying you linked over? So I used to. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.320 I used to throw a lot of parties, things of 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.080 that nature. We should just hang out and then you know, 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.160 one day my brother Eve, who went on to manage 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.760 Cole and co founded dream Ville with him. Um, along 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.040 with Adam Rodney, who was was Col's roommate back at St. John's. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.240 We were all just homies at that time and we 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.760 started just you know CDs back then, mixtapes were handing 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.360 handing Cole's mixtape in the neighborhood like all around Queens 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.800 and New York, just trying to put people on and 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:00.920 you know, they were doing the same, and you know, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.280 eventually they landed a situation where where ho. And then 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.680 when I when I took to wrapping, um, it was 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.280 like purely accidental with some some friends of mine like 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.800 just convinced me to do it on on the MacBook 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.320 one night, like one random drunk night, to be honest, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.040 and you know when you got like a rational confidence, 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.200 and uh, it just kind of sparked a bugging me. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.000 I had never had, you know, an outlet for creative 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.040 expression before, and so I just I caught the itch. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.000 And then I would just wake up every day and 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.160 work on my craft and then you know, I would 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.440 send my brother some records and then you know, one 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.839 day cold called me like man, like, you know, do 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.920 you do you understand what you're doing, like because it 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.559 was just so raw at the time. He was like, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.040 this is like completely you. I hear I hear you, 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.160 I know you, and this, you know, that's the most 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.520 impressive part of of like finding your artistry. And he's 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.360 like everything else is just like a developmental process. He's like, 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.760 you know, just start coming on on the road with me. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.560 And I started hitting the road with him. I started 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.520 working with like his band, his keyboard player Ron Gilmore Um, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.719 his stage manager Cedra Brown, who was a childhood friend 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:09.559 of Cole's. Um. They were like kind of aspiring producers 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.160 and I was like the aspiring rapper on the bus. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.959 So we kind of started forming my sound um and 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.040 you know, like three years later, when cold of the 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:20.800 Interscope deal, He's like, you know, I want you to 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.599 be my first artist, and you know, it was a 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.679 no brainer. So it's really a family affair, like from 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.360 the ground up. It honestly just seems you know. My 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.800 question to you is, I wonder what was so different 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.360 about you that made you his first signing. I mean, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.920 we've seen J Cole work with so many talented people 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:42.079 support them, but why were you the first sign you know, 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:47.959 it's it's interesting because, um, the familiarity works for you 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.839 and it works against you in a lot of ways, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.760 you know, because you don't want to be biased, especially 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.760 when there's a lot of things at stake and money 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.000 being invested in all types of things. So um, but 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.480 you know, I do vividly remember around Cole's second album, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:06.720 Born Center, he was going to play songs for guys 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.839 who really looked up to just playing his album for 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.079 like No Idea and salam Remi and you know, just 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.080 guys who are have an incredible footprint on our culture 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.120 and an incredible legacy, and he would play their album. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.040 And you know, this is a true testament to Cole 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.120 that that after he was done playing his album, he'd 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.680 be like, Yo, you know there's just kid from Queen's 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.719 I'm rocking with, Like I want to play you a 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.680 few songs and see what you think type of deal. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.199 And you know, both times he played it, uh, you know, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.599 both of them were we're just we're very impressed and 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.760 we're interested in in signing me at the time, and 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:45.000 I think that was like the first purely objective co sign, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.920 you know, because we all just came up together and 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.000 I think that kind of changed a lot of things 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:51.960 because from then on I just saw like a different 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.960 a different fire in a sense of a different level 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.600 of of belief. But obviously at the time, Cole hadn't 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.079 put out Born Center yet, so those you know, no 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.559 labels gonna give you a full label situation off of 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.360 one album. But then you know, right after that he 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.439 dropped Born Center, and then it was like, you know, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:14.280 every label wanted to be Dreamville's home. So, um, you know, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.679 I was just blessed to be in that position, being 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.880 that situation, get to really developed as an artist, as 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.680 a performer, um, you know, and learn learn a bunch 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.480 of things from the guys around me who had really 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.280 put in, you know, ten thousand hours and mastered their craft. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.040 Let me inter Jack, because you said you right at 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.760 the end was with me. Be my next question. You're 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.520 around Cole, You're around Coal, and the whole situation came. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.200 You're around Cole and he becomes one of the best 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.160 lyricists of our time. I always say this to me, 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.079 I feel like he's my jay Z. You know, I 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.439 didn't grow up listening to jay Z like that, but 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.800 I grew up listening to Cold You know what I mean. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.840 And I loved how Cold carries himself. And I can 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.240 kind of tell like, you're very well diverse, You're you're 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:04.160 a nice, calm collective. The energy seems really genuine coming 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.959 from us. You know, we interview everybody, so I can 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.280 tell you have a very high level of competence. My 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.280 question to you is how much is that you? And 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.719 how much is that what you've learned from being a 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.199 fly on the wall and being around the Cold. A 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.199 lot of that is definitely what I've learned, um from 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.800 being around Cole and even the whole dream billers. There's 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.400 so many talented musicians and producers that are part of 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.199 our camp that really helped speed up, um, you know, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.760 my my learning curve in a sense, just because I 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.040 was able to be around and be a sponge and 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.200 sit in these sessions and even the first tours Cole 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.120 brought me on, I wasn't performing. I was just riding 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.120 the bus and working on music and watching him perform 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.199 every night. Or you know, one of those tours was 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.160 the Club Paradise tour that Drake did that one summer 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.680 and it was like Drake, Cole, Meek, mill Walker, Flocker 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.760 to change French Montana. You know, it was like a 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.199 be there to run and I'm just on that tour, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:07.120 watching everybody every night, you know, taking notes, seeing what 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.240 parts of songwriting you know, are is the crowd resonating 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.240 with you know, what moments you can create in a 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.280 live show, like all those things were invaluable for sure. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.240 So I mean that that gave me a lot of confidence. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.320 And then once you start doing it and you build 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.040 your own fan base and you start selling your tickets 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.000 to your shows and they show up and they know 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.880 every word, you know, every step it away, Um is 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.920 a confidence builder even even now, you know, even like 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.240 doing a song like the Jackie, which which to me 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.880 is like I had the intention to want to create 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.400 a bigger record, you know. I think usually I make 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.719 my album and I'll pick the single out of it afterwards. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.680 And this is one of those times where I had 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.319 a lot of the album done and I said, you 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.280 know what, I want to make the singles. I want 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.079 to craft them specifically for what I'm trying to do, 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.800 for the effect I'm trying to have to to kind 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.199 of reach a new frontier in my career. Like you 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.360 said earlier about you know, giving me my flowers and 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.920 kind of being slept on, Like I'm aware of that, 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.679 and in ways like I want to break out of that, 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.559 you know, I want to I want to put my 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.160 stamp on it. I want to create these big records 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.959 that you need to to reach a certain audience and 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.400 and reach a certain level of you know, a claim 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.560 and notoriety. So you know, I try to be intentional 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.080 about all these things. I think the difference is you're 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.240 actually creating in an organic following. You know what I'm saying, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.680 people are really getting to know who you are, not 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.400 only as a person, but as an artist in his 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.360 purest form. You are. You don't seem to be one 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.120 of those artists who was tainted, somebody who was trying 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.560 to be pulled in directions that he doesn't want to 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.800 go in. So what are you thinking is about your 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.600 sound that's really drawing people to you because you you're 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.120 really selling our shows like you you you are selling 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.920 shows that yeah, well, you know, I think the beauty 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.480 of it is like having a very like multicultural background. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.720 Um as far as my ties to the African continent, 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.800 you know, I spent five years and in my early 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:07.000 childhood in Paris, um and then I have four older 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.560 siblings who spent you know, varying degrees of their life 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.560 all over the world. So my my oldest brother's name 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.200 is DJ MoMA he um, he's probably my biggest musical source. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.400 He spent you know, eighteen years in France by the 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.680 time we left, and he was putting me onto like 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.520 you know, French house and UK garage and you know, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.000 now he put me on a like ma piano out 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.120 of South Africa and like a bunch of like African 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.920 artists and things of that nature. Um. So I think 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.920 when I create, when I've realized this, all of those 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.200 things come out in my sound, all of those textures, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.680 all of those influences, Um, they've they've become my sound. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.440 So I think it just keeps me out of a box, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.680 that keeps it open, and it keeps it exciting for 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.160 my fan base that they never really know, you know, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.720 what they're gonna get, and that that's the beauty of it. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.720 Like even you know, with the Jackie, I'm conscious also 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.440 to make those records without my core being like who 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.200 the hell is this guy? Who is this guy? I 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.680 don't know this guy? This isn't a guy like I 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.760 grew up with, I've been listening to since I was 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.960 in high school, etcetera. It's all natural, it's organic. But 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.040 but again it still has to be an evolution. Now, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.440 let's talk about the Jackie a little t J. J. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.680 J Cole. Of course we know that J. Cole. Where 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.880 did the little T J Coo come from? You know? 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.480 I just thought his he I wanted a New York 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.560 artist on it um because it's kind of like a 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:34.760 New York summertime story. And then t js Cadence his 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.280 melodies I just thought would fit that like bright sonic 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.080 sound that that t I that T minus set up 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.280 for us. Also, I don't think I've ever really heard 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.800 t J on a on a beat like that, you know. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.120 And and to me, that's the funnest thing about collaborating 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.520 is how do I how do I bring these artists 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.160 into my world, you know, in a way where they 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.880 fit organically, they don't sound out of pocket. And that's 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.480 always like the puzzle and and the and doing it honestly. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.200 And and you know, the kid's twenty years old, he's 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.560 ripping it up. One of the biggest artists out of 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.520 the city. You just love to see something like that 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.720 and and support it. We know that afrobeats is on 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.840 a high right now. You know a lot of people 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.879 are starting to tap back into the motherland Africa, But 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:23.280 you don't fall into the afrobeats sound to me. Of course, 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.840 being African, I hear your influences, which is why I 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.920 asked what I asked. But I think going back to 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.800 you know, you wanting to have that record that helps 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.880 you reach different crowds. I get that, But I will 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.480 say I stand firm on the fact that what you're 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.680 doing I think has a lot more longevity because it 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:45.080 is really organic. It is the people that are attracted 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:49.680 to you are attracted because of the creativity. Like I 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.959 don't even know what I don't know what to call 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.840 your style, you know, And I love that. I love 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.360 that it doesn't fit into one mold. Yeah I do too. 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.600 I do too, and and and I agree. And that's why, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.040 you know, that's the art in it, you know. It's 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:08.320 it's trying to set these goals for yourself creatively and 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.880 you know, execute them in a way where you keep 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.800 your artistic integrity, you know. And I've never felt like 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.320 ot straight from that, and you know, hopefully I never 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.760 willed all right, that's that's the goal. But it's been 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.960 it's been a lot of fun creating these records a 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.919 little differently. You know, when we made the song at 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.600 the time, we were working on the off season. Um. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.800 Obviously the content and the sound of that album is 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.920 is a bit moodier and deeper, and and it's you know, 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.520 we wanted to make a lighthearted record during those sessions 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:44.480 because we're just like really deep into this like soulful album. UM. So, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.320 you know, it's just good to have diversity. Like you said, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.280 I if you can't put me in the box and 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.600 I'm doing something right yeah, wait, wait, wait, don't don't 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.040 think you're gonna get up out of here, but I'll 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.240 be asking you. You know, let's talk about this hair man, 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.800 like I'm always used to grow you know, uh, what 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:07.680 made you man? A few things? You know, I'm missed 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.760 wearing hats first and foremost. You know, I'm miss wearing 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.320 my good Yankee you know New York with that had all. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.720 Let me just say that, you know, like I've missed 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.800 this part of my life right here. I'm gonna keep 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.400 it on for the rest of this um. But no, also, 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.880 just you know I had to throw for like four 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.560 or five years. Man, I'm a Gemini. We may getting 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.760 pulsive decisions and just go for change. I can't be 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.960 in the same space for too long. Um. And I 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.000 was just something I just felt like doing one day. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.920 And for the first three days I woke up like, man, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:41.719 what did you do? And then on the fourth day 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.240 I was like, man, that's sly, I'm liking it. And 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.840 now I'm all the way converted. I don't know what's next. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.639 I guess the answers My question, is Boston a relationship? 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.680 But you kind of already said you can't stay nothing 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.560 too loud, you get coming every No, that's I mean, 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.560 that's that's not true. I am, I am, I am committed. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:09.240 We like you are in the committed relationship. I am, yes, sir, okay, yes, 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.359 go ahead and say her name then since you commit. No, 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.040 you know, I like to keep things probably, but I'll 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:19.280 give you that much. You know, we with and we 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.600 with it. Now. Is she somebody that we would know 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.040 if you were to say her name? No? Did she 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.320 from New York? Nope? I wish you from New Orleans? 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:36.840 Then that somebody from the south. Huh about this versus 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.560 last night? Did you think that deep set was gonna 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.480 wash the Locks? And got surprised with Jada, you know, 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.720 never surprised. You know, I'm from New York. Like, let's 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.679 let's talk about it. You know, Jada's Jada is one 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.879 of the best we've ever had, you know, And and 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.280