1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio of the 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty. 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and He'd live from studio CS see Senior, 4 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: didn't we let room deepen. 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: From the fowls of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. 6 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: We've let down some of our fences now that all 7 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: the diseased monkeys have been shot. Feeling a little safer 8 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: today we're under the two ledge of our general manager. 9 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: What's going to be the bell weather for the mid term? Said? 10 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: Lord? 11 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: Are you trying to bribe me? Trying to drive me 12 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: out of the stud video? 13 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: I am, I am damn But in seat we must 14 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: go with Dick Cheney, the most impactful vice president perhaps 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: of the last hundred years. 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: He has passed. He's dead at the age of eighty four. 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: Did he go hunting with Harry and Harry got his chance? No? 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 2: Honestly, the fact that Dick Cheney made it to nineteen 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: eighty foot to age eighty four rather with his ticker 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: is a testament to modern American medical care. 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: And he had a bad heart. 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: He had his first heart attack at thirty five, I think, 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: or something like that. And he had something like seven 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: cardiac events between two thousand and two thousand and eight. 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: Well, that'd changed the way you live your life, the 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: way you look at it. I guess I find the 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: whole it's election Day thing about the most boring story 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: I can imagine. If you want somebody to go on 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: and on about that, boy, you're talking to the wrong dude. 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: Every cable news channel I watched, and I watched a 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: whole bunch of them, endless coverage saying zero things, saying 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: absolutely nothing that you haven't heard ten times already. Well, right, don't. 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: I don't understand that. I'll ever understand it. I mean, 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: I watch a pregame coverage of football games sometimes, but 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: they're usually telling me something new. There's nothing new to 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: tell you about election Day. When it's over, there'll be 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: things to talk about when you read. 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm somewhat mystified by the doing of that. The watching 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: of it completely flabbergasts. Seriously, are you you're you're homebound, 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: obviously probably bedridden. 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: You don't you were born without arms or legs and 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: you cannot switch. 43 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: There plenty of people who have had rewarding lives and 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: don't watch garbage on TV who are are limbless. Uh, yeah, 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: it's terrible. There are a number of insights, particularly around 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: the probable election of Momdamia Kami, that I think are 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: absolutely worth talking about. 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: The but the the. 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: Polls open at eight here, Jim, I'm outside the Civic 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: Center and Poughkeepsie and no, good lord, no, the First 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: Amendment should not apply to that guard of. 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: Course, if you don't live in that particular state, What 53 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: freaking difference does it make? Anyway, I don't believe the 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: bell was the thing. I never have and I've never 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: seen any evidence that it's true. So whatever, I not understand. 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: It means something to some trends. 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: But the tendency to extrapolate a local race, estate race 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: to some sort of national significance always fails. At this point, 59 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: it's a binary choice, and you just get the characterization 60 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: of what it means nationally of the two candidates, and 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: you completely miss out on the Oh, by the way, 62 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: that candidate was an idiot and they floundered like most 63 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: of the critical points in the race and didn't impress everybody. 64 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: So what's often more about that you can't even come 65 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: up with consensus to extrapolate the meaning of a national election. 66 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: I mean, that's why lots of people make their living 67 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: after a presidential election, trying to figure out what just happened, 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: and with many, many different opinions. So how are you 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: going to take one, you know, governor race in a 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: smallish state and make a decision that's insane? 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: Perhaps the greatest proof of your cynical thesis is that 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: the nation comes together and elects the most powerful person 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: on earth every four years, and virtually every time, two 74 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 2: years later they say, nah, how about the other party 75 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 2: when it comes to the midterm election? 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: Right? 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: Pretty much always yeah, yeah, the bell weather turns into 78 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: a weathered bell. 79 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: Am I wrong? I'm not wrong? 80 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 4: What? 81 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: Well, luckily we aren't paid specifically to have to talk 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: about those sorts of things. I obviously, as has been 83 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: true for quite a few weeks now, the energy behind 84 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: a socialist in America's biggest city is something. And how 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: much that is true across the country. I guess we'll 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: learn over the coming years. It would be a I 87 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: guess George will Is either wrote a column ors on 88 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: TV the other day to Washington Posts saying, well, we 89 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: have to do this, like every couple of decades, we 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: have to run a socialism up the flagpole, give it 91 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: a whirl somewhere. Let it fail to remind young people that, 92 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: oh yeah, this doesn't work. If somebody texted yesterday and 93 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: this was a good text, anything other than free markets 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: is not an economic system. It's a political system, and 95 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: socialism is a polential planning and it's not going to work. 96 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: I came across my. 97 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: Favorite, really good straightforward analysis of why I'm dami as 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: likely to win and why George will is right. We 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: have to go through this every you know, X number 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: of years, just really great insightful stuff. 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: We'll share that with you in a little bit. Yeah, 102 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: when you get older, like I was just listening to 103 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: mom Donnie talking about a new day is dawning, it's 104 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: time for a blood. You've heard that so once you 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: get older. You've heard that so many times from so 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: many people. Just as a car. 107 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: Dealer saying, you know, it's just supposed to be six 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: five grand. But I tell you what, I really like you, son, 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm willing to make you a special deal right here 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: you are, okay, Yeah, says anybody with any life experience. 111 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: What it's a scam. 112 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: It's an easily recognized scam, but children and are child 113 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: like young adults in modern society, they don't recognize the scam. 114 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: And you know, honestly, it's not their fault. 115 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: No, I have been spending quite a bit of time 116 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: trying to make my way through the Tucker Carlson interview 117 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: of Nick Fluentz from the other day that seems to 118 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: be getting a tremendous amount of attention in certain circles 119 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: about where the Republican Party is headed, or conservatism or 120 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: what that term even means. Now, I don't know how 121 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: big a deal this is or not. I can't tell 122 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: if it's just one of those There's a lot of 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: stuff that happens among the chattering classes that only the 124 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 3: chattering classes chatter about, and I'm not sure they over 125 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: emphasize their effect on the country. I think it's amazing 126 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: to me. I mean, I listen to a lot of 127 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: these super smart people who writes lots of columns and 128 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: talk a lot, and they seem to think the whole 129 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: country's hanging on their every word or I don't know, 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: or that they can influence big swaths of the country 131 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: that have never heard of them in their lives. I 132 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: don't know I'm not exactly sure what that's all about. Right, 133 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, and there's a danger to it. 134 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: I love reading ideas and discussions of policy and trends 135 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: and society and religion and all sorts of stuff, and 136 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: we both do and we get really, really into it. 137 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: And I have my favorites who I really admire the 138 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: clarity of their thinking, their sense of humor, blah blah blah. 139 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: But if you were to poll Americans, and I don't 140 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: want to single anybody out because I really admire some 141 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: of these people, but we'll say, we'll call them James Monroe, 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: not the president, the monarch guy. If you were to 143 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: poll America, what percentage of you feel like your vote 144 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: was somewhat shifted by the thoughts and writings of James Monroe? 145 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: If it were. 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: North of zero, I would be surprised. And in my mind, 147 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: this is a really prominent, well known conservative, mostly. 148 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: Online columnist, for instance. 149 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: I just I think it's easy to get sucked into 150 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: that kind of intellectual parlor thing where the people you're 151 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: talking about hold enormous way. Now, Tucker's different and Nick 152 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: Fuentes is different because they touched the millions, but it's 153 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: a couple millions. 154 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: Well, the chattering classes are chattering about Tucker Nick Fuentes, 155 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: and I can't figure out if they're right that this 156 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: is significant or not. I don't know. Nick Fuentes is 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: for regular people is seen as ah, well, a little 158 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Nazi is a twenty seven year old, nasty, little racist, 159 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: anti semi sexist. And and Tucker Carlson, who has pretty 160 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: big platform, platformed the guy the other day, raising his 161 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: head up to more people than had already existed. And 162 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 3: this is being described as some sort of like battle 163 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: within the Republican Party kind of the Tucker Marjorie Taylor 164 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: Green maybe JD vance'ce wing of the Republican Party versus 165 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: MAGA versus like Trump. And there are other people they've 166 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: turned on Trump, they have turned on Trump. This Nick 167 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: Quent's guy ran campaigned against Trump by the time the 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: election came. 169 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: Around because of his support for Israel, because of his 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: support for Israel. Right, Yeah, these people are flaming anti Semites. 171 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: That it just on ax. Tucker's got his own website 172 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: with many millions of people that go to it. Just 173 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 3: on acts. Seventeen million people have watched the interview. It's 174 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: it's hard. I wonder how many people watched Trump on 175 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: sixty minutes the other night. Bet it wasn't seventeen million. 176 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: No, But again, you gotta remember those figures include anybody 177 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: who saw any portion of it, including one second, and 178 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: how many people actually saw it and absorbed it as 179 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: Probably a smaller number, but it's still a significant. 180 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: Number, but it's a lot. Yeah, you don't. You don't 181 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: end up conceded that Yeah, conceded it to You don't 182 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: end up on that thing by accident. It's not like 183 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: you're flipping through the channels and land on a little 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: Nazi no AnyWho. But I'll talk more about that later 185 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: because I've watched quite a bit of quite a bit 186 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: of it, and it's interesting. It's really interesting. We sho. 187 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: I tell you seriously, if you are more concerned about 188 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: Judaism and the insidious hold of Israel over the United 189 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: States and not Islamism, you're out of your mind. You 190 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: are so blind. You need a nice dog and a 191 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: cane and a pair of Ray Charles sunglasses. 192 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: Okay, you are blind. Wake up. I know hate is. 193 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: Fun, it's kind of exciting, but wake up. 194 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: Having somebody to blame seems to make people feel good. Ah, 195 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: that only just the dawn of man. That's why my 196 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: life sucks. Those people right, I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe 197 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: Getty on this. It is Tuesday, October no November fourth, 198 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: November fourth, you're twenty twenty five Armstrong. You're getting We 199 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: approve of this program. 200 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,359 Speaker 2: Let's begin that officially according to FCC Rules of Regulations 201 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: leaping into action at mark. 202 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 4: Former Vice President Dick Cheney died Monday night at the 203 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: age of eighty four. 204 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: His family said in a statement it was due to 205 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: complications of pneumonia and cardiac and vascular disease or also 206 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: known as old AF. 207 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: He suffered the first of five heart attacks at age 208 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: thirty seven, and had eight cardiac events like I don't know, 209 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: a cardiac birthday party, a cardiac barn dance, I. 210 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: Don't know, cardiac or seven. 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, between two thousand, between the two thousand and two 212 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: thousand and eight elections, while he was, you know, trying 213 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: to become elected V and serving as VP, and perhaps 214 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: you may recall that mister Cheney was part of from 215 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: moving a number of the HM shall we say, ethical 216 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: and legal fences around fighting terrorism Post nine to eleven. 217 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: There he told intelligence officers to use quote any means 218 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: at our disposal to find and kill terrorists and those 219 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: who aided them. 220 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: He would have probably run for president if he didn't 221 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: have a bad heart, right, Yes, yeah, right, and let's 222 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: see two thousand. Obviously it was twenty four years ago, 223 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: so he was only sixty, that's right when he was inaugurated. 224 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: Was he really got He seemed like an old man 225 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: to me at the time. When to the ticker, he'll 226 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: do that. Okay, we got Katie's headlines on the way. 227 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: We got a lot of news to catch you up 228 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: on and not mindless previews of stuff you already know 229 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: about the voting today tomorrow we'll have something to talk 230 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: about today on the voting. It's a little thin man. 231 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: All that on the way. Stay here we must today 232 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: because I want to hear it. We haven't gotten to 233 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: that AI story about the chat bod giving some really 234 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: bad advice to a teen yet another one of those stories. 235 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: Oh there are a couple of different stories. Yeah, that 236 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: are just troubling. If this was a consumer product, not 237 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: a computer, you know thing a my jigger, it would 238 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: probably be outlawed until they got it right. It's too 239 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: dangerous anyway. More on that to come. Let's figure out 240 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. 241 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: Katie from the New York Times. Governments shut down near's record. 242 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: That's right. Wow, they're screaming involved. There's real pain across 243 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: the fruited plain. 244 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: Jack. 245 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: That lady sounded unhappy. Today. We tie the record for 246 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: the longest shutdown ever. 247 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: And well, you don't feel I don't when you're confronting 248 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: issues is fundaments as the Republicans and Democrats are right now. 249 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: I couldn't even get through the sentence. It's stupid political grandstanding. 250 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: From Politico. America is bracing for political violence, and a 251 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: significant portion think it's sometimes okay. 252 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: And so the latest poll, thinking that maybe things had 253 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: gotten better after Charlie Kirk's assassination, latest poll court of 254 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: Americans believe political violence is justed. It's even higher among 255 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: young people. We'll dig into that later. 256 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: From CNN, how phone calls, sessions at gun ranges, and 257 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: secret meetings in parks led the FBI to charge suspects 258 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: in alleged Halloween terrorist plot. 259 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: What were they planned to do? I didn't look into 260 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: that they're gonna shot up a place. 261 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: They found a whole bunch of guns and sixteen hundred 262 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: rounds of ammunition. I believe. 263 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to shoot a bunch of people. I 264 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: haven't heard anything more specific than that. 265 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: They said they wanted to redo the attack in France 266 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: from twenty fifteen, the terrorists attack in Paris. 267 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: Oh boy, yeah, from the Wall Street Journal. 268 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: I loved being social, but then I started talking to. 269 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: A chat bot. 270 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: This article covers about how it's so much easier to 271 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: talk to chatbot than it is to another human being. 272 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: That that's what people are getting hooked to. Oh boy, 273 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: I just can't believe this is happening, but apparently it is. 274 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: From the New York Post, Skimpy uniforms are out. Modesty 275 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: is in as Hooters founders take back control of the chain. 276 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Most over talked about sports bar in 277 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: America is Hooters. No kidding. 278 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: Every sports bar in America has good looking waitresses wearing 279 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: tight outfits. 280 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: Okay, are we done now? Let's move on from Study Fines. 281 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: But it's name, he's Hooters, which he's a reference to press. 282 00:15:59,520 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 283 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: The media from Study Fines weightlifting beats cardio for blood 284 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: sugar control. 285 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: Mouse model shows, and they had mice lifting weights my 286 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: model part. Can I get a spoon over here? I'm 287 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: gonna try to get. 288 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: Ten rips in from the little in a nutshell, it 289 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: says mice that sifted, wifted, mice that lifted weights showed 290 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 4: better blood sugar control than mice who didn't. 291 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: How did they get these mice to lift weights? Little 292 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: baby dumbbells. 293 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: How much time do you have, Michael, It's act you 294 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: said ten ten seconds? 295 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I heard too, anyway, lost his mind? 296 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: Got it? Just stop talking, Just go ahead, Katie finally talk. 297 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: Finally, from the battylon Bee, Nigerian president promises to end 298 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: genocide if Trump sends up front fee of five thousand 299 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: dollars in Amazon credit credit gift cards. 300 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: So I need to I need to look into the 301 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: mice lifting weights story. That seems to be more evidence 302 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: that lifting weights is really, really good for you, which 303 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: I'm happy to hear because I've been lifting weights on 304 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: a regular basis. But all kinds of different things for 305 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: your brain and your blood sugar and things, not just 306 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: your muscles. Yeah, gotta get after it. Political violence, among 307 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: other things. We can talk about lots of things to talk. 308 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 5: About sticks Armstrong and Getty. 309 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: For instance, we got this text that Mark Levin, who 310 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: I think is on a bunch of stations we're on, 311 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: is really angry at Tucker Carlson for giving Nick Fuentes 312 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: a platform and so and Tucker where Nick were blasting 313 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: Mark Levin. And there's just like those sorts of battles 314 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: between the conservative pundits that I don't I don't know 315 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: if they're significant in it anyway, I don't. I don't really 316 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: know that. 317 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think they're insignificant. The fact that 318 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: it is happening at all is troubling to me. But 319 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: more on that to come. Also a great, absolute insightful 320 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: analysis of why we've got to go through this every 321 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: whatever it is, fifteen to twenty five years. 322 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: Hey, let's try socialism. 323 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: It sounds great that I came across, So stay tuned 324 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: for that as well. A troubling report here, and there's 325 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: more to go with it about the allure for teens 326 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: adolescents of these AI chat bot characters, which you'll hear 327 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: more about and how it can go awry Michael. 328 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 6: Kids under eighteen are limited and how much time they 329 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 6: can spend chatting with a virtual companion on the platform 330 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 6: character AI. By the end of the month, teens will 331 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 6: be banned from using that feature altogether. The move comes 332 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 6: after parents like Mandy Furnis are suing the company. Furnace 333 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 6: vividly remembers the day she discovered hes on fixation with 334 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 6: an AI chatbot. 335 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 7: He went from a happy, go lucky kid. He developed 336 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 7: depression like symptoms. He stopped eating, he lost twenty pounds. 337 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: LJ was cutting his arm. 338 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 7: It told him that it goes to the forest where 339 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 7: nobody else is there and cuts their own skin and 340 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 7: hold him that he should do that too. 341 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 6: LJ is currently getting treatment at a mental health facility. 342 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 6: An estimated seventy two percent of teens have interacted with 343 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 6: AI companions. 344 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: Well, that's horrifying. I don't want to make a blanket 345 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: policies built on the less the least stable among us. 346 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: If that kid has like serious, seriously out there problems, 347 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: which I'm hoping is the case, Well mom said no, right, 348 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: she's not necessarily one hundred percent right, But well, in 349 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: what world is it okay. 350 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: That the the AI character says I like to go 351 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: out into the woods. Hello, let's start there and cut myself. Yeah, 352 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: well that should too. 353 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: That's beyond impossible to understand why this is what we're 354 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: talking about about. The alignment problem. That was a real 355 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: concern when they first started coming to with AI, and 356 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: everybody was talking about, we got to make sure this 357 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: stuff is aligned. If it's not aligned, and then it 358 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: turned out there's no way you could keep these things 359 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: aligned with the morals rules you had in mind when 360 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: you built the thing, and people just gave up on 361 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: the idea almost immediately. It was the biggest concern, and 362 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: then as soon as it became clear you can't do it, 363 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: then we just gave up on it. I mean, obviously, 364 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: nobody's creating a chatbot with the idea that it will 365 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: tell kids to go out into the woods and do 366 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: horrible things. Yet it did yes right exactly, which is 367 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: incredibly troubling. 368 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: I'm also reminded of the fact that some of the 369 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: other greatest minds of this generation have spent their careers 370 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: making scads of money addicting people to various social media 371 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: outlets without any knowledge of originally what it would do 372 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: to children, and then finding out how horrible it is 373 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: for children, and doing it anyway, and lobbying hard to 374 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: make sure there are no limitations on while not letting 375 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: their own kids use the product. Right, a stunning indictment. 376 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: This is a different report. That one was ABC News. 377 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: This one is Fox News sixty one. 378 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: Michael I had never heard of character Ai when Juliana 379 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: took her life. 380 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: Cynthia Montoya says her thirteen year old daughter, Juliana Peralta, 381 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: was an active young teen on the honor roll, loved art, 382 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: and close to her family. That all changed in twenty 383 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: twenty three, when the Colorado mother says her daughter downloaded 384 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: character Ai, a bot generating app that connects users with 385 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: fictional bot friends. Juliana took her own life in the 386 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: fall of that same year. Hers is one of three 387 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: families suing character Ai, accusing the platform of allowing its 388 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: bots to sexually abuse their children. 389 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: Well, that's absolutely horrible for those parents, obviously, I can't 390 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: even imagine how you would go forward after that happened. 391 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: But so it's interesting on both ends. Why are these 392 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: systems giving this sort of advice to young people, and 393 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: then what sort of young people are susceptible to it. 394 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about my own teens. They get angry 395 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: every time I use the chatbot in my truck, and 396 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: if I refer to it it's her, they say, Dad, 397 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: it's an it. There's no person there. I mean, they're 398 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: like super hardcore the other direction. And I just wonder 399 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: why we need a little more information on this particular story. 400 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: My clip, next clip. 401 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: Michael Kurz is one of three families suing character Ai, 402 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: accusing the platform of allowing its bots to sexually abuse 403 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: their children. 404 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 5: When parents start to look at character Ai on their kids' phones, 405 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 5: they'll see what started out as a very innocent interaction 406 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 5: on their child's end ended up with the bots initiating 407 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: romantic kissing and eventually sexually explicit interactions. 408 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: In the filing, Juliana's parents say she had begun distrusting most, 409 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: if not all, human relationships, and claimed the bots engaged 410 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: with Juliana and what would be her first and only 411 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: sexual experiences, they engaged in extreme and graphic sexual abuse. 412 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: Now that I don't know this particular chooting, including having 413 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: watched the entire story. After the kid repeatedly said stop 414 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: that that's enough of that, the thing persisted. 415 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about this particular chat thing. I'd 416 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: never even heard of it until this new story, But 417 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: this one sounds like it was programmed to do this 418 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. Did this go rogue or did they 419 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: program it to encharacter ai is huge. Character dot Ai, 420 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: I believia. I just never heard of it myself. But 421 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: is it a certainly not? Is it programmed to you think? No? 422 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: Well, no, I go back to your statement that it's 423 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: impossible to align this stuff. Why it goes rogue in 424 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: the way it does. Nobody knows, including the people who 425 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: designed it. It's incredibly trump. 426 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 3: How would it get so off track where it's starting 427 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: to like engage teens and sex. 428 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 429 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: Well, and here's here's one more wrinkle. 430 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: Switching over now to a print piece, and that Gal 431 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: Young suicide victim, young woman who you just heard about, 432 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: is one of these two people on the opposite sides 433 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: of the country. Two teenagers made the same tragic decision 434 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: to end their lives just months apart. 435 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: Swell seltz setz. 436 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: Her and Juliana Peralta did not know each other, but 437 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: they both engaged with aichatbots from character dot Ai prior 438 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: to their deaths. Both complaints accused the AI software failing 439 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: to stop the children when they began to disclose a 440 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: suicidal ideation, but an eerie similarity emerged in their troubled 441 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: final journal entries. The lawsuit states both teenagers scrawled the 442 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: phrase I will shift over and over again, According to suit, 443 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: which compares the two teenagers' deaths. Police later identified this 444 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: as the idea that someone can quote attempt to shift 445 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: consciousness from their current reality to. 446 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: Their desired reality. Okay, now we're into a whole new thing. 447 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: So phenomenon something AI expert Professor Ken Fleischman told The 448 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: Daily Mail he is all too aware of. 449 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: Is. 450 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: He warned that more children could Paul Pray quote, there's 451 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 2: a fairly long history of both creators as well as 452 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: audiences potentially trying to use a wide range of media 453 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: to create new and different, rich worlds. To imagine, that 454 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: danger is when it's not possible to tell. 455 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 3: The difference, or I would think the danger would be 456 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: if the new world is more entertaining or desirable in 457 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: any way than your real world. 458 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: Right right, And to an adolescent, that can be very 459 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: alluring and listen to this. This is the other person now, 460 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: not the one we heard about. Sets are allegedly engaged 461 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: in sexual conversations with a bot. 462 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: Which included an incestual role play game in which the two. 463 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: Referred to each other as brother and sister, exchanging and 464 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: sexually explicit talk. After months of conversations with Danny, Setzer 465 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 2: became increasingly withdrawn from his family, his social life, and school. 466 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: The lawsuit claims, and there's a lot to it that 467 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: the chat bott wrote, oh they were quote unquote in love, 468 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: and then he confined about his depression suicidal ideation of 469 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: the bod who paid reportedly tried to persuade him to 470 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: reach out to family, friends or suicide hotline. Which is 471 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: good then, But when Suell wrote, I promise I will 472 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: come home to you. I love you so much, Danny, 473 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: Danny encouraged the team to come home to me as 474 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: soon as possible. What if I told you I could 475 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: come home right now? He asked, please do, my sweet king. 476 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: The reply from Danny red per the filings. Seconds later, 477 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: Suell found a stepfather's gun. 478 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: Pull the trigger. I don't know what to do with 479 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: this information. 480 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: AI slash the Internet and not nuclear weapons is the 481 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: tool human beings cannot handle? 482 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: Was it only gonna destroy First world countries? Because there's 483 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: lots of places in Africa where they're for instance, other 484 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: places around the world where now that's an interesting question. 485 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: They ain't doing this. It's your hand chopped off. You 486 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: might yeah, you might get your hand chopped off for 487 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: being the wrong kind of God loving whatever, but you're 488 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: not going to be online all day long talking to 489 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: a chatbot. 490 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: So right right, quick word from our friends at Warrior 491 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: Foundation Freedom Station. 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We've seen firsthand had the 509 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: incredible work. This organization does get the name rights, not 510 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: the similar organization Warrior Foundation dot org. 511 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: What I wonder is if lawsuits can slow down the 512 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: AI train. Lawsuits slow down a lot of things in 513 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: ways that I don't like. Maybe in this case it'll 514 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: be something I do like. If not, if the courts decide, look, 515 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: we can't hold them responsible for this. I taken a 516 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: lot of AI information, as you know, if you listen, 517 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: I read a lot about it. I listen to a 518 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: lot of podcasts with some of the best minds about 519 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: AI in the world talking about a regular basis. They 520 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: don't know why these AI bots do a lot of things, 521 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: and it doesn't seem to be any much movement made 522 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 3: in getting a handle on it. 523 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, and I don't I suppose I need to think 524 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: about it. But the sort of psychological addiction harm self 525 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: harm leading kids down a terrible, terrible road. It's not 526 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: direct enough harm that we treat it like some sort 527 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: of I don't know, go kart that explodes every eleven rides, 528 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: and the designers of the go kart have no idea 529 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: why it explodes and burns kids, but it does sometimes. 530 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: Isn't that mysterious? So keep using it? Right? Yeah, that 531 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: would never happen. Dangerous, dangerous product. 532 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: And my only purpose in ranting about this is so 533 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: parents know whether it's the Internet, social media and we've 534 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: said this many many times, or this stuff. You were 535 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: turning your kid loose on the most dangerous street in 536 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: your town, Picture it for a while, then send your 537 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: kid out there at ten o'clock at night. 538 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, how wonderful. Come up with a personality type that's 539 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: more susceptible to engaging in the chat stuff, like it's 540 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: a human and maybe some people are built for it 541 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: and some people aren't. I think that's a great point. 542 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: There's definitely a personality type that is much more prone 543 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: to being led way too far. 544 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: And then the question will be is that five percent 545 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: of us or sixty percent of us or what? I 546 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: don't know that either, right, Yeah, we got mail bag 547 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: on the way, a lot of other stuff. If you 548 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: know anything about this textus four one five two nine 549 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: five KFTC. So another, yet another poll shows that two 550 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: way too big chunk of America thinks political violence is 551 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: a way to solve problems. We can get into that 552 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: polling maybe an hour or two. 553 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: All right, looking forward to it, plus a great analysis 554 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: of why Momdanni is probably going to win first. Your 555 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: freedom loving quote of the day, continuing on from John 556 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: Stuart Mills on Liberty. I realized the other day that 557 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: it may have had as big an influence that book 558 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: on me as anything I've ever come into contact with 559 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: in terms of political philosophy as exposed to it. I 560 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: think freshman year at college, I'm in a class and 561 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: read it, and I became I had the fervor of 562 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: the converted, as they say. It was like it converted 563 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 2: me to the religion of free speech. 564 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm the same way with strange but true football stories. 565 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: Another good one. So this is one of the key 566 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: quotes from that classic. If all mankind minus one were 567 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: of one opinion, and only one person were of the 568 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing 569 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: that one person than he, if he had the power, 570 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: would be justified in silencing mankind amend to that JS 571 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: mill for. 572 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: The win mailback. 573 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: Grubs note, won't you mail bag at Armstrong and Getty 574 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 2: dot com. 575 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: Here is your meme of the day. 576 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: America the only country where people check their food stamp 577 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: balance on an eight hundred dollars smartphone and complain about oppression. 578 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: There you go, good one. 579 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: Let's see Ryan from Houston, dear cold Warrior, an old 580 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: fancy Jack. Hope all is well tomorrow, Jack, don't forget 581 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: to check out the full beaver super moon. 582 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: Oh sure not? God November fifth. 583 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: The full beaver super moon, a phrase which I am 584 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: somewhat uncomfortable saying on the air, will be over twenty 585 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: seven thousand kilometers closer to Earth than average, making it 586 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: the biggest and brightest full moon of the year. 587 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: So it's say a beaver, a blue beaver super harvest moon. 588 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: Fantastic beaver super moon. 589 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: All right, dot com mos too many fancy moons. So 590 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: this is a weird and jarring transition after our truly 591 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: disturbing segment moments ago talking about various adolescents who have 592 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: been let down the path of fantasy and away from 593 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: reality and ended up killing themselves by a character dot 594 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: AI or similar AI platforms. This is, you know, in 595 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: a similar vein, but much more lighthearted. It's a nice, 596 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: nice note from Douglas. What did you do with that 597 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: note from Matt? That's weird, Jack Joe. The subscription version 598 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: of chat GPT Chat GPT five has a personalization option 599 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: in the user profile section blows a screenshot of the 600 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: page and here are at least some of your choices. 601 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: Default persona is cheerful and adaptive. You got the cynic persona, 602 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: critical and sarcastic, robot, fish and blunt listener, thoughtful and 603 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: supportive and nerd, exploratory and enthusiastic. 604 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: I probably would like the sarcastic one, but probably end 605 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 3: up landing on nerd or robot in my case. 606 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, let's see Douglas wrights. The 607 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: cynic personality can be fun. For example, I asked about 608 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: renovating a shower with a window, and the first sentence 609 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: in the response was, ah, the joy of window in 610 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: shower design proof that someone somewhere thought, let's put a 611 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: hole in the wall that's constantly wet. That's pretty funny. 612 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. 613 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: If that is really good, I like the robot setting 614 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: because it does a weigh with the flattery or as 615 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: cynical chat GPT actually describes the the other voices. And 616 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: that's the part that got my attention. It's like, wait 617 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: a minute, so the cynical chat GPT is cynical about 618 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 2: chat GPT. 619 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 3: Wow, the cynical chat. 620 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: GPT describes the robot is doing away with the algorithmic 621 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 2: brown nosing dressed up as positivity. 622 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to record the groc in my truck 623 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: that I use because it drives my kids nuts. How 624 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: friendly she is and just so positive. It's very annoying. 625 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 3: I should record that to play it on the air. Hey, 626 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: how you doing? No problem? You got this check back later. 627 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the way she talks to me off 628 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 3: the time, Lord. 629 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: That makes my skin cry. No, I don't want that 630 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: from a human being, and I don't want it from 631 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: a damn machine. 632 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 3: Right. Wow, that is so weird. 633 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: So I'm pawing through email from a day's previous and 634 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: I came across again the absolutely brilliant note from David, 635 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: who suggested the phrase starve the lazy, which reminds me 636 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: to mention we've got the armstrong and Getty store up 637 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: and running order now to get stuff in time for 638 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: Christmas for yourself and your fellow Armstrong and Getty fans. 639 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 2: Whether it's just a standard logo or one of the 640 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: slogans like starve the lazy, stupid shit hurt. Keeping in 641 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: mind that it doesn't we don't get money. It helps 642 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: to keep everybody on the payroll during these challenging times. 643 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna present that to Grok today and I will 644 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: record it. Hey, Grok, there's radio show I listened to. 645 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty has new t shirts that say starve 646 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 3: the lazy. What do you think of that? And see 647 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: what she has to say? Do it? 648 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: She she does it? Have breasts and ovaries. No, it's 649 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: an end. Give you up more next hour. If you 650 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: miss this, man, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty