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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast,

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Speaker 1: where we explore some of the big money issues in

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Speaker 1: the world of sports. On Michael Blarn I'm Scarlett. We're

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Speaker 1: talking baseball. Yeah, I know, I know, yeah, But you

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Speaker 1: know what, it's never too early one to shop for

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Speaker 1: the holidays and to to talk about baseball, which is

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. MLB Network insider JP Morossi, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us here on the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Business of Sports. Michael, it's it's my pleasure. You have

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Speaker 1: such a great show. And there is no such thing

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Speaker 1: as the baseball off season, merely the second season. So

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Speaker 1: we just we just transition, uh quicker. Of course, we're

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Speaker 1: well into the General Manager the meetings here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you're at the GM meetings there in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: With you can tell us what's going on there, we

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Speaker 1: we we we won't tell anyone what's the team. Oh sure,

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Speaker 1: So well, I'll say this. My own personal routine is

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Speaker 1: not much much happening for me, uh socialfally here, I

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Speaker 1: could say in Las Vegas. But I tell you what,

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Speaker 1: this is a very exciting week because we're starting to

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Speaker 1: see now that the conversation around free agency trades, coming

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Speaker 1: off of what I thought was an electrifying World Series

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Speaker 1: and postseason, Dusty Baker finally getting his long awaited World

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Speaker 1: Series championship as a manager do it Again World Series Tapia.

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Speaker 1: We saw ratings go up really some of the highs

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Speaker 1: we've seen in recent years. Um so there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of excitement. Teams that hadn't been in the playoffs in

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Speaker 1: a while, Seattle and their twenty one year drought, the

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Speaker 1: Phillies and their drought of more than ten years, and

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Speaker 1: make it all the way to the World Series. So

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Speaker 1: it was a very exciting World Series that now I

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Speaker 1: think rolls right into what's going on. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: the free agency storylines that uh we are worried about.

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Speaker 1: And since we're based in New York, we gotta go

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Judge. Is he going to stay with the Yankees?

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Speaker 1: That ball is high? That a spark of God. Then

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Speaker 1: it is a Judge in glass. That's the first question.

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Speaker 1: Give us a sense of what the discussion is like

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. And also, yeah, but Shohio Tani, who of

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Speaker 1: on a team that doesn't really look like it's going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Sings this when it drives, involve deep in the center field.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen with him? First and foremost on Aeron Judge.

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Speaker 1: I do believe his agents are here on the ground

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Speaker 1: meeting with teams. It's been a quiet beginning to the

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Speaker 1: to the free agent conversation. From their perspective, I would

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Speaker 1: expect that Aaron Judge will make his decision sometime next

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Speaker 1: month around the winter meetings. That's the next big benchmark

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Speaker 1: of the off season. We'll see in December when he

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Speaker 1: do think that Giants might find a way to offer

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Speaker 1: so there's that hometown dynamic. I really think that Giants

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Speaker 1: GM Harry Manazi and said in recent days that Osani

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Speaker 1: expect that's going to be a very important news there

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Speaker 1: for the Angels that he's gonna stay put. So you know,

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Speaker 1: last year, I mean you mentioned, you know, Orange Agents

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Speaker 1: I think there's only one agent that matters, and that

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Speaker 1: Scott Boris. You know, I mean last year he literally

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Speaker 1: And and as you allude to last off season, we

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Speaker 1: That's a tough breakup in the parlance of of everyday life.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Carlos Corea, who's always been very motivated,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Mega millions. You know there's another lottery

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Draft lottery, the first one ever at

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Speaker 1: First of all, it puts the amateur draft more front

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Speaker 1: So I think that the draft lottery, Damion is, is

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Speaker 1: a really nice innovation. It incentivises a higher level of competition,

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Speaker 1: as does the current playoffs structure, which I think overall

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