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Speaker 1: Hello, my gorgeous humans. It's La La Kent and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Give Them La La with Randall podcast. We

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Speaker 1: are so grateful that y'all have been sticking with us,

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Speaker 1: as you know, in light of everything that is happening

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Speaker 1: in this world, Give Them Lalla with Randal decided to

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Speaker 1: take a two week break from the podcast for us

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Speaker 1: to remember those who have lost their lives to police brutality,

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Speaker 1: to educate ourselves and to get grounded and remember what

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Speaker 1: is important in this life and what we need to

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Speaker 1: do to encourage change. This episode is with Kelly o'coin.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know him. He's just on

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Speaker 1: this little show called The Billions. We did this podcast

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago and we decided to keep it

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Speaker 1: on hold during our little hiatus, and we are so

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Speaker 1: excited to share it with y'all now, So sit back

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Speaker 1: and enjoy. It's Kelly o'coin on Give Them La La

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Speaker 1: with Randal. What's up, folks, It's La La Kent with Ram.

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Speaker 1: What's up baby?

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Speaker 2: Another episode?

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Speaker 1: Another episode.

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Speaker 3: I just keep I keep waiting for a time order

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Speaker 3: to just put the plug on us and say you're

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Speaker 3: wasting our airspace.

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Speaker 2: Not you, not you. Yeah, no, because you.

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Speaker 1: Better recognize I'm sorry, queen. I have the best time

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Speaker 1: doing this podcast. It's the one thing I am doing

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Speaker 1: where I'm like, Wow, it's.

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Speaker 2: All about me, the one and I look at it.

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Speaker 2: I look at it differently. I look at it differently because.

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Speaker 1: I'm just fucking around.

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Speaker 2: You're not that's I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm I was really going to be more like sentimental

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Speaker 1: and say it's the one thing I do where I'm

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Speaker 1: like with my babe, we get to just banter that baby, and.

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Speaker 3: Tim, I want to ask you because you're a married

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Speaker 3: man and we're about to get married. La, Yes, this

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Speaker 3: is exactly what I was talking about, what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm bringing up. What I'm bringing up

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Speaker 3: is last night I was very upset and Lala now

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Speaker 3: a new thing that we decide in our relationship that

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Speaker 3: after nine o'clock at night, we are gonna not have

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Speaker 1: I was actually really into the way that you approached

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Speaker 1: it this morning, though.

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Speaker 2: How did I do it?

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Speaker 1: So he comes in from playing pickleball with his friends

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Speaker 1: and he was like, babe, can we talk? I just

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Speaker 1: would like us to not be so into our phones,

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Speaker 1: like it hurt my feelings. Last night, you were on

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Speaker 1: your phone until like midnight, and I was like, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: When should we decide to put our phones down? We

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Speaker 1: said nine thirty. Then I explained to him, yesterday I

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Speaker 1: got really caught up just in like just like really

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Speaker 1: exciting things. Pray yesterday, but give them la la beauty.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like obsessing over all of it.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that, and I like that we could just

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Speaker 3: talk to each other now and it's not always some

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Speaker 3: big drama. But I'm curious to do you guys face

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Speaker 4: We've had this same conversation at least four or five times?

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Speaker 2: Really, but who's on the phone more you or your wife?

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Speaker 4: Probably me, but it goes back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Probably ten because his boss is Randall Emmett, so I

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Speaker 1: would assume too.

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Speaker 2: I don't screw with you at night. What's in a

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I need a script for rarely rarely rarely,

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Speaker 3: So it's just your wife is rides you and then

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Speaker 3: do you have a time to put the phone down?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean we've I think we've said nine o'clock. Oh,

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Speaker 4: but we haven't. It's like we've instituted it and then

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Speaker 4: we forget about it. But we would both like that.

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Speaker 3: To be Can I tell you something I think us

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Speaker 3: going forward with a nine o'clock phone rule. I think

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Speaker 3: Really like last night, she was guilty, but I also

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Speaker 3: We're gonna really try this tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been okay with Randall being on the phone

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Speaker 1: makes more money, then have at it. You have.

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Speaker 2: You have been very supportive lately because I.

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Speaker 1: Think I need that cabana at the end of my pool.

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Speaker 1: Work work, work, Randal whips.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just slow her, fuck it down in a baby.

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Speaker 2: I love you, baby.

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Speaker 3: You look so happy today, smiling, and you've got no

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Speaker 3: bron as usual, and things are just lit up in

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Speaker 3: because it's a crime. What's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to some boysmails.

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Speaker 2: That's probably a good idea.

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Speaker 5: Hilo on rand reflex. I'm a huge fan of paroles,

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Speaker 5: and my question for you guys is what excited for

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Speaker 5: of being married that you're most excited for her? And also,

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Speaker 5: to the same end, what aspect of the wedding are

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Speaker 5: postponing things, but what are you most looking forward to

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Speaker 5: now that you've postponed? Really looking forward to hopefully hearing

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Most excited about the wedding and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, The thing that I'm most excited about for

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Speaker 1: the wedding is the look on Rand's face when I

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Speaker 1: walk down the aisle in my dress. Let me say this,

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you when I had the designer make

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Speaker 2: Well, now I'm really excited.

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Speaker 1: We're I'm going to be one classy bitch on that day.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you, first of all, I'm not worried.

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Speaker 3: I know that you take that wedding day very seriously

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Speaker 3: and you know that you only want to make me happy,

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Speaker 3: and that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom.

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Speaker 3: So my so, my thing is, uh, it's definitely on

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be a probably the highlight of the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Was the question?

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Speaker 1: What about being married? My I'm most excited to make babies?

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Speaker 1: All right, I get yead be fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm you know what I'm most excited about being married,

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Speaker 1: That's kind of I love it. Okay, Next question, Hilla

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Speaker 6: This is Isabelle from Salt Lake City, Utah. I just

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Speaker 6: guys on vander Pump for My question is for Lala.

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Speaker 6: I grew up in Utah pretty much most of my life,

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Speaker 6: Keep doing what you're doing. Love you guys, bye.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that is a good question.

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Speaker 1: I like that question. Yeah, I had the same issues.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's such an asshole because I had to

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Speaker 4: We're still so sweet. It's just like a little bite.

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Speaker 1: There's a bite. I didn't have that bite always. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, since the time I was a little kid.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, though, is like my dad grew up

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Speaker 4: That makes sense, Yeah, yeah, in my hometown there were

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Speaker 1: Kind of? I do picture you inquire?

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Speaker 4: I was in choir. Yeah, I was in a barbershop quartet.

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Speaker 1: Dude. Producer Tim is always just bringing in some like

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Speaker 4: A steel drum band.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you're so badass. Please Alex's faces like you're you're

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Speaker 1: teaching your best friend new things about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.

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Speaker 1: Though, in Utah it was different from Mormons and other

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Speaker 1: And it's like, wait a minute, you're like being so judgy,

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Speaker 4: Well, and it's like when you are kind of the population,

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Speaker 4: And there's they're gonna be assholes whether you're Mormon or

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Speaker 1: You know, what I remember about Mormons as they got

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Speaker 3: I gotta just tell you so, first of all, I'm

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Speaker 3: I just have to tell you, Brian Koppleman, I blow

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're like on a line together and I'm

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Speaker 1: It makes so much sense now, Kelly, because he'll like

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean you've nailed it. I mean I've

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Speaker 7: There's so many actors that I just I'm like, I

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's so I mean even these even the small scenes, babe,

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Speaker 7: To watch them through once at least and then go

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, Kelly. Season one and season two, that

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Speaker 2: It's so sick.

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Speaker 1: It really is brilliant.

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Speaker 7: have any jazz, you know, living with doubt was a

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Speaker 7: little bit okay.

444
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Speaker 8: And then the performative aspects.

445
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Speaker 7: I don't know if you've noticed that politicians sometimes performers.

446
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Speaker 1: They're the best.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 7: So I got a lot of stuff from him, I'm sure,

449
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Speaker 7: and I've played politicians periodically, and I told him I

450
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Speaker 7: steal from him, you know, mercilessly. But but he's My

451
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Speaker 7: parents are very supportive.

452
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Speaker 8: That's great.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing that because I've I grew up around

454
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Speaker 1: the Huntsman family in Utah, and I just remember like

455
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Speaker 1: the men in the family were on the same paths

456
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Speaker 1: as their dad, as their grandfather, and so I love

457
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Speaker 1: hearing that. He was like, yeah, go and be be

458
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Speaker 1: an artist. So what was the what was your first

459
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Speaker 1: gig that you bucked.

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Speaker 8: I have to now professional gig.

461
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Speaker 1: Yes, professional gig.

462
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Speaker 7: Well, so after I left college, I had a Volkswagen

463
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Speaker 7: bus and no money really, and I drove around the

464
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Speaker 7: country with headshots propping off a resumes a different different

465
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Speaker 7: regional theaters and sleeping in the back of my bus

466
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Speaker 7: like I was sleeping.

467
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Speaker 8: I always tell people I slept.

468
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Speaker 7: In the parking lots of some of the finest hotels

469
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Speaker 7: in the country.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's amazing.

471
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Speaker 7: But I ran out of money in Portland, Oregon, which

472
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Speaker 7: ironically was my hometown, and I crashed at my parents'

473
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Speaker 7: little one bedroom apartment that they had in Portland because

474
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Speaker 7: my dad was only there a little bit when he

475
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Speaker 7: was in town, I'd sleep on the couch and I

476
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Speaker 7: worked at a steel mill for a month to get

477
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Speaker 7: money to go to get back to DC.

478
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Speaker 8: And while I was there, I auditioned for a show.

479
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Speaker 7: And I got in and I think it was for

480
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Speaker 7: a couple months later, and the woman was like, Okay, look,

481
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Speaker 7: I want to hire you, but I don't know who

482
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Speaker 7: you are.

483
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Speaker 8: You don't live here, you just said you drove here.

484
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Speaker 7: I know I can find your father through his office,

485
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Speaker 7: but are you going to I'm back in three months

486
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Speaker 7: when this starts, and I said yes, and so she

487
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 7: took a.

488
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Speaker 8: Little risk, and that was my first professional.

489
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Speaker 2: Wait what was it? What was that show?

490
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Speaker 7: It with a play called A Lie of the Mind

491
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Speaker 7: by Sam Shepard and yeah, yeah, it was a crazy

492
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Speaker 7: good show. And then two years later I was down

493
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Speaker 7: at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival and so that was my

494
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Speaker 7: and that's one of the greatest times in my life.

495
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Speaker 7: And that some of the first professional life theater I

496
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Speaker 7: ever saw was at the Orgon Shakespeare Festival, this beautiful

497
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Speaker 7: outdoor amphitheater and magical mountainee you know, rural, small town Oregon.

498
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Speaker 7: And so I was there for two years and then

499
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Speaker 7: and then moved on to la and to be with

500
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Speaker 7: my wife, et cetera.

501
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Speaker 8: But those were my.

502
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Speaker 2: First Did you meet your wife while you were in Oregon?

503
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Speaker 8: I met my wife at Oberlin College actually, so.

504
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, So you guys stayed together while you were Yeah, I.

505
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Speaker 8: Mean we had you know, we were like cool to

506
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Speaker 8: see what happens.

507
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Speaker 7: And she had two more years of school, so I

508
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Speaker 7: visited periodically. Uh, and she was from Los Angeles, so once,

509
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Speaker 7: you know, I was like when I was at Ashley

510
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Speaker 7: and finally she had just graduated and was in LA

511
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Speaker 7: and we spent two years commuting back and forth.

512
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Speaker 2: Wow.

513
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Speaker 3: So then so then when she graduated, you moved down

514
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Speaker 3: to LA. You had finished your Shakespeare run basically.

515
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I had, like there was a third season discussion

516
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Speaker 7: for me, but it was not like the first season.

517
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Speaker 7: I didn't do much of anything. Second season I had

518
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Speaker 7: a couple of really nice roles. Third season was going

519
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 7: to be just sort of not even stasis. It was

520
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Speaker 7: like a little bit less, and you know, you I

521
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Speaker 7: could I saw a path where I could have stayed

522
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Speaker 7: in this magical place, like really like in my brain

523
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Speaker 7: as a kid, that was the height of what acting

524
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Speaker 7: could and should.

525
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Speaker 2: Be your purest the purest form.

526
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it really and it is just physically magical

527
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Speaker 7: if you google it and look at the pictures, it's

528
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Speaker 7: just overwhelmingly beautiful.

529
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Speaker 8: Summer theater, summer Shakespeare.

530
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Speaker 2: You know.

531
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Speaker 8: But I wanted to I.

532
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Speaker 7: Wanted to try myself against other things, and I didn't

533
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Speaker 7: want to regress. So I went down to LA to

534
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Speaker 7: be famous, and I didn't get a gig for a

535
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Speaker 7: year and a half.

536
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Speaker 1: Were going to that's actually not that long. We're going

537
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Speaker 1: to take a quick.

538
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Speaker 2: Break, but I want to hear. I want to hear that.

539
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Okay, we are back. Randall's spam girling.

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Speaker 3: Right, all right, I admitted that you don't need to

541
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Speaker 3: redo it.

542
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Speaker 2: I got it.

543
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. We have Kelly o'coin and he has he's

544
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Speaker 1: spilling all the tea. And can I tell you I

545
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Speaker 1: love because see.

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Speaker 2: Kelly, this is the ship. I don't understand.

547
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Speaker 3: I thought, spilling the tea, we drop it on the ground.

548
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: This one with the spilling the tea, I can't.

549
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Speaker 8: It sounds like a British thing, it does, right.

550
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Speaker 1: What I love that we were just talking about is

551
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Speaker 1: how you started in the theater. And I find with

552
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Speaker 1: people my age that are in the industry, there's like

553
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Speaker 1: this this version of being an actor and in the arts,

554
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: but they try to get to that that point, because

555
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? When you're on TV. You become

556
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Speaker 1: a well known person. So you don't find many people

557
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Speaker 1: my age who are like I did Shakespeare, I was

558
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Speaker 1: in a play. So I die for the fact that, well,

559
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Speaker 1: that's why you're a phenomenal actor.

560
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Speaker 2: Right.

561
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Speaker 1: Anybody who starts in the theater is like, holy shit,

562
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Speaker 1: I could watch them all day.

563
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Speaker 3: I agree, so tall the wait, tell real quick. When

564
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Speaker 3: you came to LA, you struggle for your and aft

565
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Speaker 3: didn't get a job. What was the first job that

566
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Speaker 3: set it all off? And then we can get into

567
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Speaker 3: the epic work from there.

568
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Speaker 7: So what happened was my wife who was working as

569
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Speaker 7: a physical therapist ade and was sort of on track

570
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Speaker 7: to potentially become a physical therapist because she had run

571
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Speaker 7: track in school and she was.

572
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Speaker 8: Was a dancer and remains a dancer to this day.

573
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Speaker 7: Wow, she performed in LA and did some great work,

574
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Speaker 7: but sort of hit the ceiling. She didn't want to

575
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Speaker 7: do a date myself, but she wasn't into David Lee

576
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Speaker 7: Roth videos me the girl on the pole She actually

577
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Speaker 7: did right.

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Speaker 3: She was like a really trained, real dancer like I

579
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Speaker 3: grew up with in the arts.

580
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Speaker 8: And they are real.

581
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Speaker 7: I'm not saying they aren't real dancers, but the type

582
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Speaker 7: of dance that she was interested in, right, and and

583
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Speaker 7: but even some of the dancers in those videos were

584
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Speaker 7: but they weren't anyway, you know.

585
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not just l a modern or tap.

586
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Speaker 1: It was like we're saying that she's not shake your

587
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Speaker 1: ass is give them all with random all right, keep

588
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Speaker 1: going and so.

589
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Speaker 7: She decided to move to New York, which because she

590
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Speaker 7: wanted to try herself against the best. And she reminds

591
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Speaker 7: me constantly that I'm the one when we were in

592
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Speaker 7: college together that she was like, I'm gonna give dance

593
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Speaker 7: a year and I'm gonna go into my profession. And

594
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Speaker 7: as she said, apparently I sort of laughed and was like,

595
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Speaker 7: you're too good. You're gonna you should really give it

596
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 7: as long as you can. Don't give it a year's

597
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 7: she did, and that part of moving to New York

598
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Speaker 7: apparently was because of fully embracing that. I Yeah, she

599
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 7: came to New York, and it took like six months

600
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Speaker 7: of frustration, as it always does. But then she started

601
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Speaker 7: booking gigs, and she went to Europe a couple of

602
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Speaker 7: times to do to work, and then she started booking

603
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Speaker 7: gigs here in New York, and it was slower for me.

604
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Speaker 7: But after two years or so, I started getting things

605
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Speaker 7: that were that paid at least a little bit, you know,

606
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Speaker 7: early on, but I never and this is okay, So

607
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Speaker 7: this is where it sort of ties into what you're

608
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Speaker 7: talking about. Before I never gave a shit about being famous,

609
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Speaker 7: you know, and even now, like someone says I'm famous.

610
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Speaker 8: I'm like, no, I'm moderately known.

611
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Speaker 3: You know, I think, really well known at this point

612
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Speaker 3: you're on the biggest show on TV.

613
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: But well, yeah, okay, so.

614
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Speaker 8: I didn't give a shit about being famous. I didn't.

615
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Speaker 8: That's not what I wanted.

616
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Speaker 7: I just wanted to act. I loved acting, and I

617
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 7: was like, I can do this. I wanted to make

618
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Speaker 7: a living. I wanted to be able to eat, have

619
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Speaker 7: a place to live, and I have to live with

620
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Speaker 7: my parents and have to borrow from my parents and

621
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Speaker 7: maybe even help them when they're old, you know. But

622
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Speaker 7: that's that's what started to happen with theater. It was like,

623
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Speaker 7: all right, this is a very modest living that I

624
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 7: have now for like twelve years here, I didn't have

625
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 7: to do anything else though.

626
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 8: I didn't have to cater I didn't have to wait tables.

627
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 7: And I was happy and then all of it. And

628
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Speaker 7: that's why people go to New York rather than LA.

629
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Speaker 7: You know, we might want to do TV, but what

630
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 7: when it comes down to it, the one thing we

631
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 7: can't live without is theater, right and LA people say,

632
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Speaker 7: I mean, they could be great at theater and they

633
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 7: could love theater, but and this is of course gross terms.

634
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 7: It's not quite this the bipolar, but it comes the

635
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 7: conclusion that I want to focus on the screen. The

636
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 7: great thing that happened about ten years ago in New

637
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Speaker 7: York is screen came to us and we started getting

638
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 7: all these great cable shows that were doing like, you know,

639
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 7: twelve episodes, eight to twelve episodes, not twenty two to

640
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Speaker 7: twenty five.

641
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 8: So we actually were able to work on shows. The

642
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 8: benefit for us was we could work on shows.

643
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Speaker 7: For twelve months and then do theater, right, you have

644
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 7: to do six and six, I mean yeah, And for

645
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 7: them was great because their new faces, that the head

646
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 7: had not been overused.

647
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Speaker 2: And I want to say something about that.

648
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Speaker 3: You know New York I always say is like, you know,

649
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: actors like it makes you great and and and that's

650
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: the heart of acting in New York. And then you

651
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: come out to LA and obviously can make you famous.

652
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: But you're right now shows are shooting all over the

653
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: world that I think that that whole thing is broken

654
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Speaker 3: down with tax credits and and all that stuff. But

655
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Speaker 3: what what what was I to say? Oh, I I

656
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Speaker 3: relate to that because when I came out to LA,

657
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Speaker 3: all I want to do is produce movies. That was

658
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Speaker 3: my dream. I slept on people's couches. I didn't want

659
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Speaker 3: I didn't want to be like the big.

660
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Speaker 2: Movie for so.

661
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to be able to pay my bills

662
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Speaker 3: and be on the movie set. I didn't give a

663
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Speaker 3: ship you know about my name in lights as a producer,

664
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Speaker 3: any of that shit.

665
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to.

666
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Speaker 1: But then once he got a taste of it, Kelly

667
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: was like, a.

668
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: That's bullshit. I was Kelly for twenty years. I was

669
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and then this one dragged me out

670
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: of the shadow. So just remember that anyway, Okay, I

671
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: have a good I have a question that I just

672
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: think a lot of young actors and young artists coming

673
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: up want to hear from somebody who is successful. You know,

674
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: what do you recommend to young actors today if they

675
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: were graduating from college or graduating from high school?

676
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: And you know, like I grew up.

677
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: I went to Friming Arts High School where Udah Hogen

678
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: came and trained us, and and we studied high school

679
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: high school in Miami, New Old School there's we Uda

680
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: Hoggen came twice a year and Meisner and Meisner.

681
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: Was what we studied. At sixteen.

682
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's crazy.

683
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: And my best friend from from an arts high school

684
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: was Katie Finneran, who won the Tony twice on Broadway.

685
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: So there you go, there you go.

686
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 8: So you've got some uh yeah, okay, you've got some peaks.

687
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: I love the theater and I'm such a big fan

688
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 3: of great actors, but I'm and I'm so removed at

689
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: that point. You know, from the heart of your craft,

690
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: what what do you recommend today? If somebody's just coming

691
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: out of Iowa and his passion, what do they do

692
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: and what do what do you think is the right steps?

693
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 7: I mean the business technologically and the business technically, everything

694
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 7: about it is so different from when I arrived in

695
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 7: New York. So it's hard for me sometimes to give

696
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 7: when I get this question, It's hard for me to

697
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 7: know what type of actual practical advice, which is what

698
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 7: I wanted at the time. I want to give me

699
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 7: a roadmap. I just how do I get in there?

700
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 7: And I guess the similarity would be that there is

701
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 7: no roadmap exactly the things I.

702
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 8: Think you need to do, and there was somebody else

703
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 8: I was just telling one of these things too. First

704
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 8: one though, is create a community as best as you can.

705
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 7: Be happy for them and support them and let them

706
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 7: help them rise, because you'll rise with them, or at

707
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 7: least it can give you hope.

708
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 8: That one of my own made it.

709
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 7: Try not to be jealous, be ambitious, but don't be

710
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 7: competitive as much as you can do that, and that's

711
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 7: we're all human, so we're all going to fail at that,

712
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 7: But strive for that as much as you can. And

713
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 7: sometimes pretending that you're not fucking jealous will actually make.

714
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: Me you're not jealous. I love it when I catch

715
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: myself getting super fucking someone's doing better than I am.

716
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm so happy for you,

717
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm like, wow, I feel

718
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: really good. I am happy for them.

719
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: On the opposite, I know, because she does get very

720
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: she gets in his zone.

721
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: But I you know, I I just get more competitive.

722
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: But I don't think I get jealous, like on a

723
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: kind of hater ade kind of level.

724
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: It's just like it's a kind of level.

725
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

726
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 8: No.

727
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: But I think that advice is great.

728
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: I think that you're right, Like, like, thanks, babe, you

729
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: want to keep going.

730
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: You want to keep going today, You're in a today off.

731
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: I gotta I don't get to go home. You know

732
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

733
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: It's right here, this is Kelly. Can I tell you?

734
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: And I'm obviously in no way on a show like Billions.

735
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I caved to reality Billions. No weird, right, I feel

736
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: like our script is written just as well. I'm just kidding,

737
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: but I.

738
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: Feel safety.

739
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: But I feel I feel the same way as when

740
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: people kind of ask for you know, they do want

741
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: a roadmap. I still look for a roadop and I

742
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: think that you gave perfect advice. It's like, take every opportunity,

743
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: compete with yourself and yourself only to do better. I

744
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: really love the advice that you just gave.

745
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 7: And really, if you're not, if you're looking to be famous,

746
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 7: then I can't help you because I have no fucking idea.

747
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Agree you're looking to be famous, you need to be

748
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: crazy and get on a reality TV show, right or yeah, or.

749
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 8: Be incredibly I don't know, Instagram famous. Right.

750
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: Don't try to be an actor, right, you should not

751
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: be an actor if you want to be famous.

752
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 7: And there are ways, like, look, there are there are

753
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 7: are people on Billions, I mean people on Instagram.

754
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 8: Everything's Billions. It's like Malcolm.

755
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 7: Billions, billions, But there are people on Instagram who actually

756
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 7: figure out how to use that medium order to create

757
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 7: some fantastic content.

758
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 8: So do that if you know how to do that.

759
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 8: I'm old. I don't know how to do that.

760
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: Really.

761
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 7: I can tweet because I think I'm funny and I

762
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 7: can do things short, but Ben would quipple with me

763
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 7: being funny. But here's one other thing. And I said

764
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 7: this to somebody recently, but it's true. There was a

765
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 7: guy at the point at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, an

766
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 7: actor who spent some time in Hollywood and done he'd

767
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 7: done some he made some waves, but he chose to

768
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 7: be at the festival. But he said, you're gonna have,

769
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 7: you know, a bunch of people who say call me,

770
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 7: look me up, or come on buy when you get

771
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 7: down here. And he said, you say twenty people, do it,

772
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 7: eighteen of them you show up, they're gonna be like,

773
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 7: who are you?

774
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Like?

775
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 8: What are you doing here? And you're gonna feel like

776
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 8: an asshole.

777
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 7: And if you let that feeling of feeling like an

778
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 7: asshole keep you once, you had to hit the first

779
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 7: three all.

780
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 8: Five, three, five of them whatever, They're all like, oh

781
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 8: my god, who are you, asshole? They're like, oh, I'm

782
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 8: an asshole. I'm not gonna I'm going to ignore the.

783
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 7: Rest of the fifteen, but then you can miss those

784
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 7: two people who actually will try to help you. Right,

785
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 7: So go through the eighteenth. All you have to do

786
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 7: is remember that you're not.

787
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 8: The asshole they are. Yes, it's hard, it's.

788
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 7: Hard to do, and it took me a while, but

789
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 7: I finally started following this guy's advice. And that's when

790
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 7: I actually met somebody, a casting person who was like,

791
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 7: I'm going to recommend it to this other casting person

792
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 7: and I started going in one.

793
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: Wow, and look at you now.

794
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: But I will say, I will say, our business, Kelly,

795
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: is very They just kind of like don't want to.

796
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: There are a lot of times where I find they

797
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: don't want to lift you up, they want to just

798
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 3: put you down. And I think you have to keep

799
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 3: that mentality. I've done it in all these years, where

800
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: you just got to know who you are, believe in yourself,

801
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: and you'll find those people that do support you, and

802
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: those are the people that matter.

803
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 8: I think that's right.

804
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 7: And actually, even those people who are the asshole, they

805
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 7: might not be assholes. They just might not really give

806
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 7: a shit about you, and maybe they're busy, maybe there's

807
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 7: all kinds of stuff going on. You just with them,

808
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 7: and you know, in the moment they might have met

809
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 7: it meant it right, but and it makes you feel

810
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 7: good to say, look.

811
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 8: Me up, I'm gonna help you out.

812
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 7: But then you have to do. The real good people

813
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 7: will be the ones who back.

814
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: It up, who back it up. But the best feeling

815
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: in the world I can imagine would be the people

816
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: that were assholes and then you kind of ignore them

817
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: and you blow the fuck up one day and then

818
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: they roll up on you and they're like, how have

819
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: you been. You're doing great. It's like, yeah, no, thanks

820
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: to you.

821
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 8: By the way, that sounds a little bit like you

822
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 8: might have some experience.

823
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: Am I actually puts it on TV, Kelly, it goes

824
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: a step further.

825
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: Okay, but Kelly, I I read that you have done

826
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: soap operas.

827
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 7: When I was first in New York, I think I

828
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 7: was on three but literally like two lines, five lines

829
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 7: something like that.

830
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So reality TV now, which okay, I do, is

831
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: looked at as the modern day soap opera. I like

832
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: to say that's great, because I love soap opera so

833
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: perfect label it that. What was the difference being on

834
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: set on a soap opera and being on set on Billion?

835
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: I gotta know, I gotta loaded question.

836
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: Good luck, Kelly. Yeah, I think.

837
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 8: I think one of the big things was.

838
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 7: I had good experiences on the soap operas because it

839
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 7: was my first year in town. I'd just never been

840
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 7: on a set before, so for me, it was all

841
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 7: just new okay.

842
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 8: And there was one that I got.

843
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 7: That was supposed to be recurring, and there was kind

844
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 7: of a funny, sort of sexy little banster and I

845
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 7: was like, oh, cool, Yeah, that means that someone will

846
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 7: cast me maybe.

847
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 8: To be sexy guys.

848
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 7: Cool, you know at the beginning, any affirmation because you

849
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 7: don't know, like, am I weird looking?

850
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 8: Am I annoying? Am I interesting at all? Am I

851
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 8: potentially attractive? Whatever?

852
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 7: So those things were actually great about the soaps, I

853
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 7: didn't have nearly anything to do.

854
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 8: The biggest difference, if I look back on it, because.

855
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 7: There was a long break between those and then finally

856
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 7: getting to do more TV. Lack of rehearsal because they're

857
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 7: putting up an entire show every day, right, so it

858
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 7: would be lacking and even you know with TV, with

859
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 7: with episodics or you get two weeks even that The problem,

860
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 7: not problem, the difference from theater is lack of rehearsal.

861
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: So it really so quick.

862
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 7: It's so quick. It's so quick, and the extemporaneous stuff.

863
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I look at soap actors now that I

864
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 7: used to accept for very few. I used to be like,

865
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: well they're kind of wooden. What's that about? And it's like, well,

866
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 7: you're fucking they're trying to remember that they have like

867
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 7: a three page monologue that they got ten minutes ago. Right,

868
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 7: look at them now with that in mind, and they're

869
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 7: fucking Olivier right right.

870
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: I love it.

871
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: Okay, real quick. We have our producer Tim here as well.

872
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: He's a fan of the show. Tim, would you like

873
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: to ask a question. I'm gonna give you a moment

874
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: because I know you're fangirling as well.

875
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 4: I am definitely fangirling Kelly. It's it's great to meet you.

876
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: All right. He doesn't do too he doesn't know you, no,

877
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: I know, Hey, be nice to Tim. Yeah, but I'm

878
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: the face that's the question on.

879
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: I read that. I think it was your dad that

880
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: said your career really started to take off once you

881
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: started shaving your head.

882
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, that's great. Yeah, he did.

883
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 8: My dad.

884
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 7: My dad has always been very supportive of it, as

885
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 7: I said, and he also is. He's he's long been

886
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Speaker 7: one of those guys in his various careers, even before politics,

887
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 7: that tries to figure out angles, not like in a

888
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 7: con man kind of way, but like a strategic sort

889
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 7: of way, like presentation.

890
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 8: He was a he was an ad man for a while,

891
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 8: you know that kind of stuff.

892
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 7: He Yeah, I think because I balded in a really

893
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Speaker 7: awkward way, not.

894
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 8: Like guys were just sort of thin.

895
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Speaker 7: My hair was thick, except in the back of my head,

896
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Speaker 7: where it was just gone, like the reverse what age.

897
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. I got to tell

898
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: my buddies to reverse Yamica. That's amazing.

899
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 8: It's like someone was golfing on the top of my

900
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 8: head and took out a divot. It was just gone.

901
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Speaker 3: I mean, Kelly, I guarantee you the name of this episode,

902
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: our producers of Time Warre are going to call it

903
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Speaker 3: the reverse Yamica.

904
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Speaker 2: Already. It's as good as a cats, It's as good.

905
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Speaker 8: As a Cats.

906
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 7: I was probably early thirties, early to mid thirties, and

907
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 7: I still had a baby face at that at that point,

908
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 7: so it was like this weird sort of thing.

909
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 8: It just wasn't working. It was easier for theater, but

910
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 8: I had some TV people say the same thing.

911
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 7: It's like, you probably should start buzzing his head or

912
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 7: get a piece, or get a transplant. I actually went

913
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Speaker 7: to one of those hair transplant places.

914
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, just year, what year? How long ago?

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Speaker 8: Mid I was mid thirties.

916
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Speaker 7: I don't know, not the mid nineteen thirties, but I

917
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Speaker 7: was in my mid thirties.

918
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's why they used some poke big holes

919
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: in your head. Yeah, yeah, you would have had the craters.

920
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 8: What he told me.

921
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Speaker 7: It never occurred to me though. It's like, well, no,

922
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Speaker 7: we'll do it here now. It was going to cost

923
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Speaker 7: me like ten fifteen thousand dollars, which I didn't even have.

924
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 7: But then you also continue to lose your hair around that,

925
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 7: you're gonna have a little island and then you're gonna

926
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Speaker 7: do it again.

927
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Speaker 8: And he used the word harvest.

928
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Speaker 2: Oh god, harve.

929
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Speaker 8: From the back of your head. And I'm like, this

930
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 8: is a Stephen King novel. I'm out of here.

931
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: That is so fucking gross. And then you just like

932
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: randomly become a chia pet.

933
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Speaker 2: What is that?

934
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: And by the way, if you look at people's transplants

935
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Speaker 3: from twenty years ago, it is like a whole punch

936
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Speaker 3: like you can check it out.

937
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: You could bury yourself into each follicy.

938
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Speaker 7: Still, okay, So I started shaving my I started shaving

939
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Speaker 7: my head and it was like that year that I

940
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Speaker 7: started just I don't know, there was something about my

941
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 7: face that evened out in people's perspective.

942
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Speaker 1: I guess I really dig the big head. I think, yeah,

943
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Speaker 1: I think you look great.

944
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he looks great.

945
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: But I think you're right.

946
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: But I'm a fat Jew. Fat Jews can't have a

947
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: ball dead. I would, I would be dead.

948
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: It'd be humpy, dumb, dean steroids. Oh no, I would never.

949
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: I'll pay a million dollars to keep my hair before

950
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Speaker 3: I go bald.

951
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: It's never gonna happen.

952
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: No good, your hair.

953
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: Your chiseled and I and I've got like family underneath

954
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: my chin.

955
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Speaker 8: So you're a handsome son of a bit.

956
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

957
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: Oh that was cute. I love that fun Kelly Kelly

958
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: quick question.

959
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to run out of time.

960
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: You work with Peter Burg, which I financed and produced

961
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: Loan Survivor The king.

962
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: How, Yes, Yes, I did.

963
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 8: You did The Kingdom?

964
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: No, I did? I did Loan Survivor. You did The Kingdom?

965
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: I did? Yeah?

966
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, yeah, because you think I would.

967
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: I would have seen you, Kelly, I would have seen you.

968
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: Okay, but tell me tell me that experience and and Spielberg,

969
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: tell me those two.

970
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 7: It was fantastic. It was on location and I love

971
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 7: I always love going away. I love hotels. I love

972
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 7: being on locations.

973
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 8: Like love it. Uh yeah.

974
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 7: And I got to take a van like forty five

975
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 7: minutes or a half hour or something to set and

976
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 7: back every day with Anna Devere Smith and Richard Jenkins,

977
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 7: and there was one it was just Richard Jenkins.

978
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 8: And I am such a huge fan of both of those.

979
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 7: Anna Deavere Smith is a theater god and Richard Jenkins,

980
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 7: I'm sure has done tons of theater, but but he's

981
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 7: a TV movie guy.

982
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: The greatest, the greatest.

983
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 8: I got to hang out with these guys and.

984
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: For an hour every day, for an hour every day.

985
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 7: For an hour every day, and the last time, the

986
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 7: last half hour ride after we were done shooting a

987
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 7: day early, which was a bummer to me.

988
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 8: I'm sure Peter Berg loved it.

989
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: He's fast, by the way, on Los Rivory finished five

990
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: days early, five days.

991
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 8: That's incredible. He was fast, and he was great.

992
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 7: He would throw lines to you and everything, and he

993
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 7: had Jamie Fox and me like up in each other's face.

994
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 8: Was like playing with Jamie FOXX.

995
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

996
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 8: Awesome.

997
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 7: But so on the ride home, Jenkins was like, hey,

998
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 7: let's get a drink at the hotel afterwards, and I

999
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 7: was like, great, yeah, I just have to call my

1000
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 7: wife and I meet you in half an hour.

1001
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 8: And so I called my wife and she was like,

1002
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 8: up in the room, she said, what are you doing?

1003
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 8: Is Richard Jenkins? Go down, I have a drink with him.

1004
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 8: He's like my favorite actor in the world. Go tell

1005
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 8: him that your your wife loves him.

1006
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 7: So I went down and he didn't show up because

1007
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 7: I think I misspoke. I think he thought that I

1008
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 7: was saying.

1009
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 8: I can I have like half an hour? Then I

1010
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 8: got to call my wife. Oh, so I didn't get

1011
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 8: to have my drink with this.

1012
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1013
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 8: And he's like one of my favorite actors in the world.

1014
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 8: And we liked each other and he liked.

1015
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: Me, but he doesn't like, I bet he doesn't talk

1016
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: to you anymore.

1017
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I bet he didn't. Like.

1018
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure he remembers that guy who stood him

1019
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 7: up in the Arizona Hotel.

1020
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 8: He's the guy in that minor role.

1021
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: So I'm just talking because we're both been sitting on

1022
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: the bench now for the last two months with COVID.

1023
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: Just to update you, there was an article that I

1024
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: just had come out in Deadline that I did where

1025
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: I was directing my first movie in Puerto Rico with

1026
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: Megan Fox and Bruce Willis and Emel Hurst all these people,

1027
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: and we got shut down. We are doing our final

1028
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: UH interview next week with SAG, which were optimistic that

1029
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: they hopefully will sign off and then we can go

1030
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: back to work in the IA, which we also need

1031
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: their protocols. They're saying around June first they're going to

1032
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: release their so hopefully hopefully in June between the both unions,

1033
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: they are encouraging all of us safely of course, to

1034
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: go back to work, so not gun Wood. Also, I

1035
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: told you no fucking around. I'm sending you a script

1036
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: today because I need you in my movies.

1037
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: You're just talking.

1038
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 8: Would you'd make my day?

1039
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Just wheeling and dealing. That's what we do here. We

1040
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: picked the brain and then we give movie roles.

1041
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 8: That's good luck. I hope that works out.

1042
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really OPTI by the way, I'm optimistic, and

1043
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: I said for the whole industry, because you know, our industry, theater, film, television,

1044
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 3: whatever it is, is dying.

1045
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: We've all been you know. You know it's brutal.

1046
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: I mean, it's brutal for people that I know, you know,

1047
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: our working paycheck to paycheck, and I just want us

1048
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: to go back to work so that we can you know,

1049
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: as a community, we work. We're artists, and we don't

1050
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: do well not creating. And I know we've done the

1051
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: best we can with with where we are, but we

1052
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: just we all want to go back to work.

1053
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 8: So and most of us, yeah, and most of us

1054
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 8: are workaholics. Yeah. People look at creatives, I hate that term.

1055
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 8: It sounds pretentious, but they look at creatives as sort

1056
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 8: of like like lazy and lucie, and it's like, no,

1057
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 8: we just want to work. It's the opposite, the opposite,

1058
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 8: the opposite.

1059
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: And I agree, and I think that all artists right now,

1060
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: whether you're a filmmaker or actor or whatever. We're just

1061
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: all we want to do is we want to be safe,

1062
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: but we want to go back to work. So I'm

1063
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: optimistic for us all.

1064
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: I had the best time having you on today.

1065
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: Kelly.

1066
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

1067
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 5: This is good.

1068
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 8: You guys are a black I'm serious. I haven't laughed

1069
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 8: as much since quarantine.

1070
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.

1071
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: Well, it's so appreciated that you came on, and we

1072
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: hope that you have the best day ever.

1073
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Yes, Kelly, thank you.

1074
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: We'll see you on Billions.

1075
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 8: Thank you, guys.

1076
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: This is it a la Hi.

1077
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm Chelsey and I am a native and it's so

1078
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 5: funny you talk out how you're from Utah. I'm the

1079
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: mom of three kids and it's still fun to listen

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00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 5: to here podcast to be Diapers and you guys are

1081
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: d Thanks for this awesome podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. My loves. To everyone who has

1083
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Speaker 1: already called in to leave us messages, please keep them

1084
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: coming because we love hearing from you. Call us anytime

1085
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Speaker 1: at eight sixty six La La Pod. That is eight

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